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June 12, 2019
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  • - Fear, self doubt, and insecurity.
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  • What's standing in your way?
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  • It's time to
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  • own your unique voice.
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  • (soft vocals)
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  • - I can recall, growing up
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  • in a very different dynamic, culturally.
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  • First generation, I'm a first generation American.
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  • My parents were immigrants.
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  • I had a step-dad from a Mexican heritage.
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  • And my mom, Nicaragüense heritage.
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  • And so--
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  • - Say that again. - Nicaragua.
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  • - Nicaragua.
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  • - Here we go!
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  • (speaking Spanish)
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  • You know?
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  • So.
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  • - It's the browner.
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  • - Yes!
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  • - I'll be the translator.
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  • (laughing)
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  • - And so before my Nepstad name
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  • came to be,
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  • it was Elisaradas and that came with a whole gamut
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  • of cultural upbringing,
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  • to being born in a northern
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  • California region, very diverse area that I lived in.
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  • And so I had conflicting messages where,
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  • when your Spanish you're expected to be bold, loud,
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  • outrageous and hilarious
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  • and you see models of that
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  • on television.
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  • But with me,
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  • I was just made differently.
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  • My siblings were loud, they were very confrontational,
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  • very abrasive at times, which is expected, you know,
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  • because that's where--
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  • - (speaks Spanish)
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  • - You know, spicy Latina, you know?
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  • And I was not that.
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  • I was very much an introvert,
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  • very quiet in nature.
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  • Loved my books, loved classical music.
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  • I had a wonderful music teacher that saw
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  • a gifting in my life,
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  • which was of music,
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  • of having a voice that sang
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  • operatic music.
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  • And so finding my voice was a challenge growing up.
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  • The dynamic in my home did not really support
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  • a personality like mine.
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  • So, when it comes to hindrances, I felt like there was
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  • a spirit of intimidation that would visit,
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  • on a consistent basis over my life.
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  • I know this is gonna help someone.
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  • You know, that, with the volatile upbringing,
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  • layers of abuse, it was just
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  • an experience
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  • not healthy for a kid.
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  • And so a lot of my childhood was just that.
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  • It was internalizing.
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  • No one advocating for me.
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  • But at the same time, I felt powerless.
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  • And I think,
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  • most women who've gone through this kind of experience,
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  • they never seek healing and so when
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  • they don't seek healing, they don't lead a free life.
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  • And for me it was, it was freeing when I encountered Jesus.
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  • It was a sense of freedom that I could speak up
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  • for the first time.
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  • for the first time.
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  • And so,
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  • when we think of hindrances we think of,
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  • almost like a muzzle.
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  • And oftentimes when we think of overcoming something,
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  • it's not necessarily something physical,
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  • but something internal.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - And so what do you say to that?
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  • What do you say to, you know, especially you Holly,
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  • maybe you had a different dynamic,
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  • the opposite spectrum, where maybe your internal
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  • perspective was, don't be loud!
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  • But for someone like me it was like, don't talk!
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  • Be loud!
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  • Be loud!
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  • Why aren't you crazy?
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  • Why aren't you, why aren't you being out there
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  • with your attitude, rolling your neck.
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  • There's already a cultural expectation.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - So what do you say to that?
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  • Especially for someone--
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  • - It's like when you don't fit a mold.
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  • - Yeah, or something that's blocking you,
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  • pushing you back.
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  • - Yeah I guess,
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  • for me it would be
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  • get rid of the mold.
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  • Right?
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  • Get rid of the expectations that are out here
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  • that are trying to form you into something
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  • that He didn't.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Right?
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  • So I just think some of the hindrances come
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  • from the expectations of other people,
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  • and the pressure from other people for you to be
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  • something, for you to be something.
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  • There's like this pressure to be something
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  • that, man, that'll make you sick.
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  • - Yeah
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  • - Right?
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  • - Yes.
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  • - And then you never really get to see who you really are.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - I'm so glad you put, that you didn't let
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  • that mold keep holding you there.
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  • Because who you are is amazing gift.
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  • - I think that's most the people.
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  • - True.
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  • - Out there, I think that's most the people.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - That even insecurity, and that
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  • I really haven't been
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  • given anything to say.
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  • I think probably out of all of us,
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  • I would probably struggle with that.
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  • Very much so 'cause I have all these
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  • amazing friends that can get up in the pulpit
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  • and bring it.
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  • And I just kinda sit there, I'm just in awe.
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  • I just am the cheerleader out in audience.
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  • I just think that
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  • that God,
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  • in the quiet spirit of someone,
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  • is very powerful.
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  • And I think that a lot of times,
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  • that's even more important than
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  • hearing it from a platform.
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  • - One hundred percent!
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  • - Is what you hear in
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  • a one on one with somebody.
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  • What you move in.
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  • You've got a beautiful voice.
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  • I've heard it once, singing.
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  • And it's absolutely beautiful.
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  • But I think that if we can just all know
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  • that God has absolutely hand-carved
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  • and created each person individually
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  • and there's nobody else like you.
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  • There's a one and only
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  • - Right.
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  • - of each one of us,
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  • and I think just the realization of that
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  • is so freeing and it takes away the fear.
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  • And then that brings freedom just to be,
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  • just to be who you are.
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  • Because we all bring something to somebody.
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  • I think every single voice is important because
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  • God gave us a voice
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  • and no matter if it's to praise Him,
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  • no matter if it's too
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  • encourage,
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  • the Bible says to let everything that we do and say
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  • edify each other.
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  • And I just think we can use our voice
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  • to change somebody, to change their life.
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  • You know there's times that you'll reach out to somebody.
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  • And you can say something that person will
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  • remember that for the rest of their life.
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  • And in a time of despair, I believe that God will
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  • bring back to memory the seeds.
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  • Our words are seeds.
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  • And I think if we plant
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  • those good seeds in soil.
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  • Some will fall on rocky ground, some will fall.
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  • But man, those ones that take hold
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  • can actually change someone's life.
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  • And they can change,
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  • they can go and grow and change people
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  • and it's just an effect that just can change the world.
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  • - Fear is real.
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  • - Fear is real.
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  • - And I think fear,
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  • I mean for me, is the biggest hindrance.
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  • To finding our voice.
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  • 'Cause it's really, it's fear of,
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  • that you're gonna disappoint someone.
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  • Fear that you won't measure up.
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  • Fear that you don't actually have what it takes.
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  • Fear, you know, it's just like
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  • that you're in an environment.
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  • I mean, I remember being so many times
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  • being in an environment,
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  • and not a big environment,
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  • but being, maybe a small conversation
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  • like this with someone,
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  • and then there was a situation happening
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  • in this person's life right here.
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  • And I was afraid that I didn't have what it took
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  • to help!
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  • But at the end of the day, why would God put me there
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  • if I didn't?
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  • Fear just played a part.
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  • So, I wouldn't say what I know I needed to say.
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  • Because if I said this, what are they gonna think about me?
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  • I see something.
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  • Should I say something?
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  • Or is that gonna get me in trouble?
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  • So, that's kind of where that's been probably
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  • the hindrance for me.
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  • And that, to be honest, I don't think that that's,
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  • it still is.
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  • It looks a little different now.
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  • - But at the end, none of us have anything.
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  • What do we have that God didn't give us?
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  • I mean seriously, if I thought it was about me,
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  • I would be in huge trouble.
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  • So, we are gonna mess up.
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  • We are going to be misunderstood.
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  • We are going to have situations where we have
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  • nothing to bring, which is why we have to
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  • lean into the whole spectrum.
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  • I mean, I have--
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  • - I got a mess.
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  • - You've got a mess and I've got nothing.
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  • And I think that confidence is what we have to draw on.
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  • I love your gentle voice.
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  • Your gentle voice
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  • to me is stronger than
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  • most people's loud voices.
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  • So I love that, and I need that in my life.
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  • I'm not always loud, I'm loud on stage,
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  • 'cause I am a fight for.
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  • And I think that we have to all celebrate that
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  • unique gifting.
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  • So if I need certain things, I'm gonna call you.
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  • And if I need other things I'm gonna call Holly
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  • and you have to know.
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  • That's a strength in Holly's life.
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  • Just because it's a strength in her life and not yours,
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  • doesn't mean that that your strength isn't valuable.
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  • - Yes!
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  • - So I love this conversation 'cause I do feel
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  • that there's people thinking,
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  • if I'm not like that I can't be something.
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  • Well, none of us have anything.
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  • None of us.
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  • - Right so then that's another thing that just
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  • even when you were saying that,
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  • there's another thing that hinders a voice,
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  • is just jealousy.
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  • Because you're comparing to someone else's voice.
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  • - So then you think, because it's mine,
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  • then it's probably not gonna help anybody.
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  • But if it's what God did in me,
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  • it's a totally different story.
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  • - Not everything needs to be said
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  • and so I remember, I can reflect back that,
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  • I was quiet in the early stages of our marriage,
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  • but then as, as I had the privilege of being married
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  • into the ministry, so to speak, and I'll leave it at that,
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  • there are opportunities where other people
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  • will speak for me.
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  • And finally I got tired.
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  • And then I started to use my voice.
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  • Because if I don't use my voice, others will assume
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  • how I feel, what I think, what's in my heart,
  • 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:53.200
  • what's in my mind.
  • 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:54.290
  • And sometimes just because I'm quiet,
  • 00:10:54.290 --> 00:10:56.220
  • doesn't necessarily mean that I don't have a voice.
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  • Is I chose, kind of to lay back, sit back,
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  • and listen a bit, and then engage.
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  • You can watch Better Together episodes on demand.
  • 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.150
  • - Go to bettertogether.tv
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  • to stream all of our latest conversations.
  • 00:11:10.090 --> 00:11:13.240
  • - I think so.
  • 00:11:20.040 --> 00:11:21.020
  • I resonate with that a lot.
  • 00:11:21.020 --> 00:11:22.140
  • And I resonate, similarly to just growing up
  • 00:11:22.140 --> 00:11:24.140
  • in a situation where you don't feel like,
  • 00:11:24.140 --> 00:11:27.050
  • you're in a position of influence or of mattering
  • 00:11:27.050 --> 00:11:31.020
  • at all in the dynamic of your family.
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  • Or, what can I do?
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  • What can I bring?
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  • My family, we grew up on the streets.
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  • My family planted a church to the homeless
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  • 30 years ago.
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  • And I love serving with my family,
  • 00:11:38.160 --> 00:11:40.120
  • love being part of an environment of us all in the streets,
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  • doing the hard work for Jesus.
  • 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.040
  • It was very real and raw and I'll always be grateful
  • 00:11:44.040 --> 00:11:46.130
  • that I was raised that way.
  • 00:11:46.130 --> 00:11:47.280
  • But my dad was this rock star preacher,
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  • my mom was this rock star over here.
  • 00:11:49.270 --> 00:11:51.080
  • My sister was this rock star worship leader.
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  • And I was very content, as the middle child,
  • 00:11:52.280 --> 00:11:54.200
  • setting up the chairs and doing the lunches.
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  • I was very content.
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  • I didn't deal with jealousy against my sister, or my dad.
  • 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:00.130
  • I was very very fine with my position.
  • 00:12:00.130 --> 00:12:02.270
  • And I remember, when my dad passed,
  • 00:12:02.270 --> 00:12:06.000
  • and my sister didn't continue in ministry,
  • 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:08.060
  • and when I was kind of the one left.
  • 00:12:08.060 --> 00:12:11.210
  • I remember thinking, it's not supposed to be me.
  • 00:12:11.210 --> 00:12:14.210
  • Not in a jealous way, just in a--
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  • - Surprised.
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  • - Yeah in a very big surprise.
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  • And also in like, oh it's the wrong person.
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  • I would be like, not even a plan B,
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  • I would be like a plan C.
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  • And not in a jealous way, but in a,
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  • I know I'm not the right person, but I want this
  • 00:12:28.060 --> 00:12:30.020
  • to be the best.
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  • I want this to be better.
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  • And I know it's not me.
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  • And I just know it couldn't be my position.
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  • I don't have any of those skill sets.
  • 00:12:36.100 --> 00:12:37.230
  • I can't sing and I can't preach, and I couldn't do it.
  • 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:39.230
  • And then I learned how to speak Sing My Song lyrics
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  • and that worked out.
  • 00:12:41.150 --> 00:12:42.100
  • (laughing)
  • 00:12:42.100 --> 00:12:43.060
  • - And you preach now.
  • 00:12:43.060 --> 00:12:44.120
  • - And now I've learned to speak.
  • 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:45.210
  • But all these things of like, oh no,
  • 00:12:45.210 --> 00:12:48.020
  • the people that were supposed to do it aren't here.
  • 00:12:48.020 --> 00:12:50.260
  • And what that felt inside of me of like,
  • 00:12:50.260 --> 00:12:53.050
  • well I'll just do it until someone better can do it.
  • 00:12:53.050 --> 00:12:55.110
  • But, and then just feeling like, I'm just gonna
  • 00:12:55.110 --> 00:12:56.240
  • fill this gap until someone better can fill it.
  • 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.290
  • And I felt some kind of position in that, but I never,
  • 00:12:58.290 --> 00:13:01.260
  • it wasn't jealousy it was truly just like,
  • 00:13:01.260 --> 00:13:04.160
  • I know someone's better than this.
  • 00:13:04.160 --> 00:13:06.180
  • And, you say something that's so powerful.
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  • Correct me as I say it.
  • 00:13:08.180 --> 00:13:10.050
  • (laughing)
  • 00:13:10.050 --> 00:13:11.000
  • - As you say it!
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  • - But you say, what if the reason we're not sure
  • 00:13:12.140 --> 00:13:14.200
  • what we're called to do is 'cause we're called to do
  • 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.050
  • something that's never been done before, right?
  • 00:13:16.050 --> 00:13:18.000
  • - Absolutely.
  • 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:19.080
  • - And you said that and I hold onto that
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  • as the voice of truth in my life still.
  • 00:13:21.170 --> 00:13:23.080
  • Because, even now, the Lord has changed mt life
  • 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.010
  • and I have found so much truth in the word of God
  • 00:13:26.010 --> 00:13:27.170
  • and with the women I've surrounded myself with,
  • 00:13:27.170 --> 00:13:29.070
  • and the men I've surrounded myself with,
  • 00:13:29.070 --> 00:13:30.210
  • but even now I see little Hosanna coming out sometimes.
  • 00:13:30.210 --> 00:13:34.230
  • Where I feel the Holy Spirit speaking to me about
  • 00:13:34.230 --> 00:13:38.040
  • this new book.
  • 00:13:38.040 --> 00:13:39.280
  • But I can list three other people that I know
  • 00:13:39.280 --> 00:13:41.150
  • are supposed to say it 'cause they would do it better.
  • 00:13:41.150 --> 00:13:43.180
  • Not in a jealous way!
  • 00:13:43.180 --> 00:13:45.030
  • In a like, oh man, she would kill it, he would kill it.
  • 00:13:45.030 --> 00:13:46.280
  • And I feel the Lord telling me to speak on behalf of this.
  • 00:13:46.280 --> 00:13:49.130
  • But I think, oh people aren't saying
  • 00:13:49.130 --> 00:13:51.030
  • that's an important topic right now.
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  • I bet you that person would do it.
  • 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.040
  • And sometimes I do feel this little Hosanna coming in
  • 00:13:54.040 --> 00:13:56.280
  • that's just like, why would it be you though?
  • 00:13:56.280 --> 00:14:01.010
  • That doesn't make practical sense.
  • 00:14:01.010 --> 00:14:03.020
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:14:03.020 --> 00:14:04.080
  • It's not practical that it would be you.
  • 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.020
  • What's be best way for it to be.
  • 00:14:06.020 --> 00:14:07.210
  • So I love that you say that,
  • 00:14:07.210 --> 00:14:09.090
  • and you say that a lot.
  • 00:14:09.090 --> 00:14:10.240
  • And I own that and I try to speak that over myself.
  • 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.110
  • What if--
  • 00:14:13.110 --> 00:14:14.170
  • - I feel like it's a mandate to speak it over
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  • the next generation.
  • 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:16.240
  • - Yeah, I receive it.
  • 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.060
  • - I really do.
  • 00:14:18.060 --> 00:14:19.020
  • - And I appreciate that.
  • 00:14:19.020 --> 00:14:20.170
  • And you've spoken recently about Esther, and about
  • 00:14:20.170 --> 00:14:23.260
  • why not you - Why not you?
  • 00:14:23.260 --> 00:14:25.100
  • And why not now.
  • 00:14:25.100 --> 00:14:26.150
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:14:26.150 --> 00:14:27.290
  • - Otherwise it'll be someone else at some other time.
  • 00:14:27.290 --> 00:14:29.150
  • Why not you, why not now.
  • 00:14:29.150 --> 00:14:30.260
  • So I try to really decipher what's the Lord,
  • 00:14:30.260 --> 00:14:33.220
  • and what's my flesh.
  • 00:14:33.220 --> 00:14:35.100
  • - You know, all of us have been given a talent,
  • 00:14:35.100 --> 00:14:37.210
  • and a measure.
  • 00:14:37.210 --> 00:14:39.060
  • And when you actually think I don't have anything to give.
  • 00:14:39.060 --> 00:14:42.120
  • It's like a slap in the face, to God.
  • 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.170
  • God gives each and every one of his children
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  • a measure of faith and you don't have to compare
  • 00:14:48.150 --> 00:14:50.160
  • what you have with what anybody else has.
  • 00:14:50.160 --> 00:14:52.210
  • But you do need to take what you have,
  • 00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:55.090
  • unbury it, and multiply it.
  • 00:14:55.090 --> 00:14:58.000
  • We need what's on your life and there is no person
  • 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.020
  • that is insignificant or lacks the ability to contribute.
  • 00:15:01.020 --> 00:15:04.280
  • So I want you to ask the Holy Spirit
  • 00:15:04.280 --> 00:15:07.170
  • to show you, what is it in my life?
  • 00:15:07.170 --> 00:15:10.220
  • He might start small.
  • 00:15:10.220 --> 00:15:13.050
  • But you go ahead and believe big.
  • 00:15:13.050 --> 00:15:15.190
  • Because that is a seed.
  • 00:15:15.190 --> 00:15:17.110
  • That action of obedience is just a seed.
  • 00:15:17.110 --> 00:15:19.220
  • Some of that is serving, some of that is encouragement,
  • 00:15:19.220 --> 00:15:22.240
  • some of that is tithing, some of you.
  • 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.270
  • It's gonna be giving offerings
  • 00:15:24.270 --> 00:15:26.290
  • but God has something in your hand
  • 00:15:26.290 --> 00:15:30.120
  • that he wants to release that will be life
  • 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.060
  • for other people.
  • 00:15:33.060 --> 00:15:34.150
  • So I'm gonna challenge you to move beyond
  • 00:15:34.150 --> 00:15:36.080
  • the limits of your self conciousness and self
  • 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:39.170
  • and move into what God wants to do.
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  • Let Him astound you with his faithfulness.
  • 00:15:41.260 --> 00:15:45.000
  • - My favorite part of today's talk was
  • 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:48.280
  • the vulnerability.
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  • I think with the right chemistry
  • 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:52.130
  • and the right people that are in the room,
  • 00:15:52.130 --> 00:15:53.260
  • you have the ability to feel safe.
  • 00:15:53.260 --> 00:15:56.290
  • And not a lot of environments for women like myself,
  • 00:15:56.290 --> 00:16:00.020
  • feel safe and so when you have a safe group of friends,
  • 00:16:00.020 --> 00:16:04.090
  • you tend to open up your heart.
  • 00:16:04.090 --> 00:16:06.040
  • And I think a lot of connection, a lot of chemistry,
  • 00:16:06.040 --> 00:16:10.170
  • a lot of openness was brought into the room.
  • 00:16:10.170 --> 00:16:14.210
  • Tears, open hearts, learning from one another.
  • 00:16:14.210 --> 00:16:19.020
  • Especially from different cultural upbringing to
  • 00:16:19.020 --> 00:16:23.160
  • a different mindset, a different place in life.
  • 00:16:23.160 --> 00:16:27.090
  • And so you have people that are seasoned,
  • 00:16:27.090 --> 00:16:29.240
  • in the middle of the road, and people
  • 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.040
  • kind of walking in their journey or just
  • 00:16:32.040 --> 00:16:34.270
  • beginning in their life.
  • 00:16:34.270 --> 00:16:36.260
  • You kind of learn from one another in that kind of dynamic.
  • 00:16:36.260 --> 00:16:40.030
  • - Did you enjoy today's topic?
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  • Well we wanna hear from you.
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  • Connect with us on social media
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  • and tell us how you found your voice.
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  • We actually can't wait for you to join
  • 00:16:46.210 --> 00:16:48.140
  • the conversation!
  • 00:16:48.140 --> 00:16:49.270
  • - We did, one night, with The Key, my husband and I
  • 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.220
  • produced that movie.
  • 00:16:57.220 --> 00:16:58.200
  • - And it was such a good one!
  • 00:16:58.200 --> 00:16:59.240
  • - It was wasn't it?
  • 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:01.010
  • - Oh I love that.
  • 00:17:01.010 --> 00:17:02.070
  • - But the point in that was with Esther.
  • 00:17:02.070 --> 00:17:04.180
  • And I know women talk a lot about Esther.
  • 00:17:04.180 --> 00:17:06.170
  • - We just have a few.
  • 00:17:06.170 --> 00:17:07.190
  • Heroes in the Bible.
  • 00:17:07.190 --> 00:17:08.280
  • (laughing)
  • 00:17:08.280 --> 00:17:10.140
  • - But I just always
  • 00:17:10.140 --> 00:17:12.020
  • adhered to that scripture saying,
  • 00:17:13.120 --> 00:17:15.200
  • you know what God can raise up whoever he wants to.
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  • And it will happen.
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  • I will free my people.
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  • Why not it be you!
  • 00:17:23.010 --> 00:17:24.180
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:25.160
  • - And as insignificant and
  • 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:27.180
  • the sacrifice she was gonna have to make to do it.
  • 00:17:28.290 --> 00:17:32.250
  • - Right.
  • 00:17:32.250 --> 00:17:33.200
  • - God said why not you?
  • 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.020
  • - Right!
  • 00:17:35.020 --> 00:17:36.170
  • - And the thing that, it's like, if you look at it,
  • 00:17:36.170 --> 00:17:38.290
  • God never chose what we would think, would be
  • 00:17:38.290 --> 00:17:41.030
  • the obvious person.
  • 00:17:41.030 --> 00:17:42.270
  • He chooses Gideon.
  • 00:17:42.270 --> 00:17:44.120
  • - Not obvious!
  • 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:46.180
  • (laughing)
  • 00:17:46.180 --> 00:17:47.230
  • - The least obvious in his tribe,
  • 00:17:47.230 --> 00:17:49.120
  • and had to work with him to find his voice.
  • 00:17:49.120 --> 00:17:50.290
  • - Right.
  • 00:17:50.290 --> 00:17:51.230
  • - A number of times.
  • 00:17:51.230 --> 00:17:52.210
  • - So Esther, the same thing.
  • 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:53.280
  • Orphan, hiding, she's like, aaagh!
  • 00:17:53.280 --> 00:17:57.040
  • He had to work to, and so,
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  • I think that's who he chooses.
  • 00:17:59.080 --> 00:18:01.110
  • - But they're obedient.
  • 00:18:01.110 --> 00:18:02.090
  • - Yes!
  • 00:18:02.090 --> 00:18:03.170
  • - You love how she hid her heritage.
  • 00:18:03.170 --> 00:18:05.010
  • She did whatever the eunich told her,
  • 00:18:05.010 --> 00:18:07.040
  • she did whatever her uncle told her.
  • 00:18:07.040 --> 00:18:09.070
  • - God gives us these dreams and we try to
  • 00:18:09.070 --> 00:18:11.110
  • humanize it to see what is practical that we can do
  • 00:18:11.110 --> 00:18:13.160
  • on our own when the truth is,
  • 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.100
  • that He can do something with that dream
  • 00:18:15.100 --> 00:18:18.090
  • that we, alone, maybe cannot do.
  • 00:18:18.090 --> 00:18:20.170
  • But that He can do and that He can do alongside
  • 00:18:20.170 --> 00:18:23.160
  • with his people.
  • 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:24.290
  • And if we,
  • 00:18:24.290 --> 00:18:25.240
  • if we limit the dreams God's put in us,
  • 00:18:26.270 --> 00:18:30.020
  • based on practicality.
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  • Then a lot of dreams are being kicked to the curb
  • 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:35.280
  • before they're even able to grow,
  • 00:18:35.280 --> 00:18:37.270
  • before they're even able to develop.
  • 00:18:37.270 --> 00:18:40.230
  • We can dilute the dreams God has for us.
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  • With all of our practicality and our reasons
  • 00:18:44.100 --> 00:18:46.180
  • and our insecurities.
  • 00:18:46.180 --> 00:18:48.100
  • When God wants to do exceedingly abundantly,
  • 00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:50.140
  • more than all that we can ask or imagine,
  • 00:18:50.140 --> 00:18:52.140
  • through His power at work in us.
  • 00:18:52.140 --> 00:18:55.050
  • Ephesians 3:20
  • 00:18:55.050 --> 00:18:56.040
  • We need Him at work in us.
  • 00:18:56.040 --> 00:18:59.020
  • It takes us being available and Him filling us
  • 00:18:59.020 --> 00:19:02.130
  • in our availability, for Him to do exceedingly abundantly,
  • 00:19:02.130 --> 00:19:05.170
  • more than this world has ever imagined.
  • 00:19:05.170 --> 00:19:08.220
  • - I've heard about Esther my whole life,
  • 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:10.130
  • but this is like a new revelation to me.
  • 00:19:10.130 --> 00:19:12.090
  • In a way I've never seen Esther before.
  • 00:19:12.090 --> 00:19:13.240
  • Not just like, you are called in such time as this,
  • 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:15.180
  • but like why not you, why not now.
  • 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:17.140
  • And why won't you receive what God's put in your life?
  • 00:19:17.140 --> 00:19:20.000
  • And so, I've had to look at it like,
  • 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:21.140
  • and I'm not always good at this, because I still have to
  • 00:19:21.140 --> 00:19:23.080
  • remind myself, but I've had to look at it as just
  • 00:19:23.080 --> 00:19:24.270
  • being prepared for whatever God might call me to.
  • 00:19:24.270 --> 00:19:27.180
  • As if I'm on a bench.
  • 00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:28.250
  • I grew up playing basketball, though,
  • 00:19:28.250 --> 00:19:30.240
  • I always won the spirit award.
  • 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.010
  • (laughing)
  • 00:19:32.010 --> 00:19:33.070
  • - I wasn't very good.
  • 00:19:33.070 --> 00:19:34.130
  • - I was gonna say, you're not very tall.
  • 00:19:34.130 --> 00:19:35.280
  • - I wasn't born athletic.
  • 00:19:35.280 --> 00:19:37.140
  • But I actually was on the A team and the coach told me,
  • 00:19:37.140 --> 00:19:40.120
  • in truth that you're here
  • 00:19:40.120 --> 00:19:41.200
  • 'cause you're the best cheerleader.
  • 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:42.180
  • - Aw!
  • 00:19:42.180 --> 00:19:43.260
  • - So I always won the spirit awards.
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  • I wasn't very good.
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  • But I practiced really hard.
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  • Because I wanted to be part of the team.
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  • I was never the best player.
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  • I was barely average.
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  • But I 'member one time, everyone was injured,
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  • and there was only four other people and then me.
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  • And I was like, well put me in coach,
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  • I've prepared, put me in coach.
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  • And that's the kinda relationship I feel with the Lord,
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  • coming from a very strongly basketball family,
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  • though I'm the failure of that.
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  • (laughing)
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  • But like, Lord, I'll practice and I'll be prepared.
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  • I don't know why there's these gaps where there's clearly,
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  • there was someone better for this, in my brain,
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  • but I'll practice, and I'll be in the word,
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  • and I'll make the sacrifice and I'll be ready
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  • so when you need me, you can put me in coach.
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  • And that's kind of my prayer Lord
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  • like put me in.
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  • If you choose me, I'd love for it to be me,
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  • but like, let's be reasonable,
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  • but hey if you want.
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  • So I feel like that's
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  • my place - That's great
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  • with the Lord, and to receive that,
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  • it doesn't have to look the same way.
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  • And it doesn't have to seem like it's the right position.
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  • But be ready for when He wants to put you in.
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  • - Because it is for a lap.
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  • Do you know what I mean?
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  • Like if Christianity is a relay race.
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  • Sorry to go to another sports,
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  • - No I love it!
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  • - Like in track.
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  • I ran, but I was like you.
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  • Anyway.
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  • - Aw, rough.
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  • (laughing)
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  • - The cheerleaders!
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  • But it's just like so, you're entrusted to have a voice
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  • for your lap, right?
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  • And so in a way we're all--
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  • - That's good.
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  • - We're all interim.
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  • Because there's another one coming and so my job
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  • is to have my voice for the time
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  • that I've been entrusted with on planet Earth.
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  • And again, to your point earlier, there are all these
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  • kind of, changes in the seasons.
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  • So now more and more of my voice is going,
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  • "Come on honey, get up, come on honey."
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  • Whereas back in the day, it was carving ground
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  • and paving the way.
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  • But now it's like, come on, come on, come on, come on.
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  • Here's the baton, ready go!
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  • Right?
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  • So I just think recognizing that,
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  • that's why it's get in coach, because this is your lap.
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  • - Yeah I like that.
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  • Well I try to say that if anyone younger than me
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  • or maybe just less experienced in ministry than me,
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  • asks me those things, I'm just like, just be ready.
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  • Be prepared for when all your prayers get answered.
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  • Be ready when the doors open so,
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  • do you even have the courage?
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  • Do you even have the character?
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  • Do you even have the bravery to walk through it?
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  • Do you wanna know about the calling
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  • and it's like be prepared, be worthy.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - And be ready with for the courage.
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  • That's all that I could tell people,
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  • 'cause I'm just like, just be ready when he puts you in.
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  • It doesn't always make sense
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  • and it's not always your timing.
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  • - If I can pray this over you,
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  • I believe that God wants to take you to your next step.
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  • I'm not saying take 20 steps, just one step.
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  • And that is the first step of just surrender.
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  • Surrender your voice to the Lord.
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  • So let me just pray for you.
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  • Lord Jesus,
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  • I love that your presence is always with us.
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  • I love the fact that you are a good Father,
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  • and you love all of your kids
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  • and you never let us get away with stuff.
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  • And so Jesus, I just pray that you would invade the room,
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  • invade the study time,
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  • invade the earbuds,
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  • wherever they are,
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  • whether it's on public transit, bus, on route to university,
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  • whether the person is listening in the middle of,
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  • you know, just have a busy life full of kids.
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  • Maybe you know, they're in their office space
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  • and just typing away and listening.
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  • Lord, I pray that you would touch that person,
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  • touch that woman,
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  • touch that voice that is so needed in this generation.
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  • Father, where it's not ambition driven,
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  • it's not to be famous, it's just to be useful,
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  • to be fruitful for your kingdom.
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  • So we can actually connect others to you
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  • because this is a team effort.
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  • We need all hands on deck,
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  • and I'm praying, Lord,
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  • that you will use this person's voice.
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  • That you will strengthen it,
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  • that you will give a positive friendships
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  • encircle this voice
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  • with a place where of safety and security
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  • so they can share and open up, maybe within a small group,
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  • maybe at a local church.
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  • But Lord, I pray that they will take their next step,
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  • that they will find what they'd been craving for
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  • all this time, which is purpose
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  • in order to make a difference.
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  • Lord bless them.
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  • Take care of them.
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  • Watch over them.
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  • Watch over their families.
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  • Watch over their desires
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  • and Father cultivate it in your hand.
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  • In Jesus' strong name I pray.
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  • Amen.
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  • if they're rubbing off on me I'm becoming a better person.
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