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June 11, 2019
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  • - The world can be loud and overbearing,
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  • and it's easy to get lost in the noise,
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  • but you have a unique voice that needs to be heard.
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  • Let's talk about it.
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  • (soft light-hearted music)
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  • So Philip and I have been pastoring for 35 years.
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  • - [Woman] Wow.
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  • - I know.
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  • - [Woman] Well done.
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  • (clapping)
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  • - [Woman] High five, Holly.
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  • - But in the early years,
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  • Because first of all, I studied theology,
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  • but I came to LA to act.
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  • Right, so I was acting in a couple of shows and--
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  • - [Woman] Say it, say it, come on, say it.
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  • (laughing and talking over each other)
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  • - Yea, it starts with an H.
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  • - Do it!
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  • - And I had to talk like this!
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  • And, so, then we start this church,
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  • and I didn't know how to do that.
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  • Like how to actually be the pastor,
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  • or the pastor's wife back then.
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  • I didn't know how to do that,
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  • and so I felt like I had to be other people's version
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  • of what that looked like.
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  • - Yeah. - Fit in a mold.
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  • - [Holly] To fit some mold!
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  • - Right and that was very much the culture at the time too.
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  • - Yea, (stammering), and so here I am,
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  • this spunky young thing, right with all the edges
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  • that I have now, but I'm "Okay, I have to be a certain way."
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  • And so, all I saw was women in polyester suits,
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  • (laughing)
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  • with big gold buttons and the gold earrings.
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  • - The St. John.
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  • - And, like, the hair that didn't move.
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  • Right, didn't-move-hair and pantyhose!
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  • - [Laurie] Oh, my goodness!
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  • - I thought, well, okay, that's how you do church.
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  • So, that's the mold.
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  • And I just wasn't me.
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  • It never settled.
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  • - Thank you.
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  • - I couldn't even find my voice
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  • because I was wearing the wrong flipping clothes!
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  • (laughing)
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  • - You were wearing pantyhose!
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  • No one can find their voice in pantyhose.
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  • (laughing)
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  • - You were past the point of having to play the piano.
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  • - No, the organ.
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  • - But, to your point, which is terrible,
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  • well, I can't sing two notes in the same key,
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  • or play two notes,
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  • so there was that pressure to be that person,
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  • because that's the old mindset.
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  • And I remember I had this moment in my closet
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  • one Sunday morning,
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  • and I'm just so frustrated as I'm tearing
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  • and ripping another pair of pantyhose,
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  • (laughing)
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  • And I felt the Spirit of God say to me,
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  • "What are you doing?"
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  • - Yea. - Hmm.
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  • - I'm like, "I'm getting dressed for church, thank you."
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  • He says, "I actually didn't call you to be this girl."
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  • - When you're unearthing your voice,
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  • not trying to find it but unearthing it,
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  • it takes time, it takes energy,
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  • it takes work, it doesn't, like,
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  • Rome was not built in a day.
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  • Neither will your voice.
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  • It takes moments and opportunities, stretching,
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  • making choices, putting yourself out there.
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  • - As soon as you will be who you are,
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  • and speak the way I want you to speak, good will happen.
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  • - [Woman] Yep.
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  • - And, so our church and actually,
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  • Philip was kind of having the same revelation at that point,
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  • too, which is awesome,
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  • so that's when our church began to really grow.
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  • - [Woman] Yea.
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  • - [Holly] It was because I started feeling comfortable--
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  • - [Woman] In your own skin.
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  • - In my own skin, using my voice,
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  • speaking the way I wanna speak, wearing what I wanna wear,
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  • I just think that's so freeing.
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  • When you actually realize that you can be--
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  • - [Woman] Mmhmm. Yea.
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  • - [Holly] Who God called you to be.
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  • - Yea.
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  • - In verse Corinthians 12 it talks about the body,
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  • and all the parts of the body, and each have value.
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  • And we get in trouble when I say,
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  • "I don't need the part that you are,"
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  • or I look at your part and go, "I should be like you."
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  • - Right. - Right.
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  • - [Holly] Which is ridiculous!
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  • - Right.
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  • - And we'll never find our voice
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  • if we don't actually feel comfortable being who--
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  • - Right, as you're talking,
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  • I'm thinking of David not wearing Saul's armor.
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  • - Yea, that's good.
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  • - He didn't wear Saul's pantyhose.
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  • (laughing)
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  • - Well, I do think that there was that movement
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  • that female ministers all look like this.
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  • We have pictures of me looking like that.
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  • - You and I looked the same back then.
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  • - And I looked way older and confused,
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  • 'cause it was awkward.
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  • And the truth is,
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  • we've been so busy trying to prepare messages
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  • that we forget we are messages.
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  • - Exactly.
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  • - That we're living--
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  • (speaking over each other)
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  • - Exactly. - So when people see us
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  • and we can't be comfortable with ourself,
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  • they can't hear what we're saying.
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  • And we can't actually be authentic to who we are.
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  • - That's powerful. - Right.
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  • - When we talk about finding our voice,
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  • most people default to,
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  • "Oh, I'm going to have to be in a pulpit,"
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  • or, "Maybe I have to write a book."
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  • No, no, no, no, no.
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  • Finding your voice is finding your contribution.
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  • It's finding that gift that you have
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  • and being able to give it to people who need encouragement,
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  • who need instruction, whatever you are doing in your life.
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  • Maybe you're a stay at home mom, maybe you're a doctor.
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  • Maybe you're an attorney. I don't know what you are,
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  • but you have a voice that adds value to people
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  • regardless of what circumstance or season that you are in.
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  • - If I didn't, back in the day, find my unique voice
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  • and style and be who I am,
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  • I couldn't actually encourage other people.
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  • And I think the thing that I hear most of the time
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  • is people coming up to me and saying,
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  • "I can see that just 'cause of, you are the way you are,
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  • "you're comfortable, it frees me to be myself,
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  • "to say what I wanna say."
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  • So, it's not like I'm telling them how to be.
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  • They just have the freedom.
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  • I just think that the more that Laurie has found her voice
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  • and is comfortable in her skin, and Lisa, and Hosianna,
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  • and the more that we do and the people in our world.
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  • - Yea.
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  • - Right? - Yea.
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  • - And the people that we're going to influence.
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  • And then maybe, just maybe, this is a pipe dream,
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  • (laughing)
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  • but, maybe, then, we can slow the nonsense
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  • that happens on social media.
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  • - [Woman] Right.
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  • - Like the whole comparison,
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  • where we make somebody wrong 'cause they're different,
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  • or we compare ourself to them,
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  • so the more that we can just celebrate someone's uniqueness,
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  • celebrate their unique voice, right?
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  • I just remember me in those early days.
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  • I was too loud.
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  • Because women weren't loud.
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  • - Yea.
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  • - Right, not in church, I was too touchy,
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  • I was too aggressive, I was too...
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  • - Extroverted.
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  • - Extroverted.
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  • 'Cause it wasn't okay for the women to be that.
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  • - Right.
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  • - So, just breaking that kind of mold that,
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  • probably, I put on myself, but--
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  • - What was the turning point for you, though?
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  • - It was that moment with God.
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  • - Yeah. - It was that moment
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  • with God where I felt
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  • He endorsed me.
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  • - [Woman] That's good.
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  • - [Holly] Like He made me how He made me.
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  • - Honestly, I didn't grow up thinking that my voice mattered
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  • and I didn't grow up sad that it didn't matter.
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  • I didn't know my voice existed,
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  • and I did not know it was important.
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  • My voice wasn't being shut down;
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  • I just had no idea that it mattered at all.
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  • So, it wasn't until the people in my life told me it did,
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  • Lisa Bevere called it giving people permission,
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  • that there have been people in my life, including her,
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  • that have given me permission to speak the words God
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  • has given me.
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  • - John and I are in a new season,
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  • and you're probably feeling the same thing,
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  • but what you do to get to a certain place isn't necessarily
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  • what you have to do once you're there.
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  • - [Woman] Right.
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  • - But when we are pioneering something,
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  • there needs to be strong women.
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  • - And we were pioneering something!
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  • 20 something,
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  • five years ago.
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  • (talking over each other)
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  • - 'Cause, no, no, no, I don't need you to be the church,
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  • be this church.
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  • - It's a different field.
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  • - Right, find your voice here.
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  • And, so, I just think the more people around our country
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  • and world find their voice and quit trying to mimic,
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  • someone else's voice.
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  • - And to know that, I was with a baby yesterday.
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  • This two month old baby.
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  • And he was opening his mouth,
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  • and he was finding his voice.
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  • And I thought, there is no voice like this one.
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  • And that's what God says about all of us.
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  • - Yea!
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  • - He holds us and He says,
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  • "There is no voice like this one."
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  • And if we can grasp that,
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  • that what I say can uplift, or I can do something today,
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  • whether it just brings a smile or a shock of "Thanks!"
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  • From someone.
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  • That you noticed me,
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  • that you said something--
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  • - I love to do that!
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  • - I do too!
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  • - It shocks people.
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  • If you've ever done this in the airport,
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  • like, you'll see another woman.
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  • She'll see and she'll look at you, like...
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  • (exclaiming)
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  • And then you're like, "Oh, you're so pretty!"
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  • (laughing)
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  • - My favorite thing!
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  • "I know you're checking me out, but you're gorgeous."
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  • - [Woman] I wanna do that!
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  • - It is so much fun.
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  • I do it all the time.
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  • And, you know what, they're going to go to bed that night
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  • and that's what they're gonna remember.
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  • - Absolutely.
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  • - They're not going to remember if I look at them,
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  • and they look at me.
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  • - Right, sizing each other up.
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  • - Just break that.
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  • - So, how do we do that?
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  • Just think about with this generation here and younger.
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  • So, how do we do that?
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  • How do we help them be--
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  • - I think it's not seeing them as a threat.
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  • I think most of the time,
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  • we think of younger voices coming on the scene.
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  • I don't think of Hosanna as my competition,
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  • or Hosanna as being younger,
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  • or Hosanna having great skin.
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  • (laughing)
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  • - You're gorgeous!
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  • (laughing)
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  • - You're stunning!
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  • (laughing)
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  • But it's seeing the daughters that are coming on the scene,
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  • like, man, you are amazing!
  • 00:10:06.010 --> 00:10:08.070
  • - Right.
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  • - You're gifted at sowing seeds
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  • of either financial blessing, or words, or favor,
  • 00:10:10.170 --> 00:10:14.260
  • or attention-- - Or prayer.
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  • - And praise! Prayer and praise!
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  • I have four daughters of my own.
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  • I do that on a consistent basis.
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  • Not many people have daughters,
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  • so they find that bridge a little difficult to cross over.
  • 00:10:26.050 --> 00:10:30.070
  • So it's not hard to praise, to pray,
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  • to advocate, to encourage,
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  • And I think what Holly said and what Lisa said is just,
  • 00:10:36.250 --> 00:10:41.050
  • it shows in the demographic that you're pastoring,
  • 00:10:41.050 --> 00:10:43.160
  • you're leading the people because you have your voice.
  • 00:10:43.160 --> 00:10:46.050
  • You discovered your voice.
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  • You discovered the skin that's been given to you.
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  • At the same time, there are women that size us up,
  • 00:10:50.090 --> 00:10:53.140
  • and they may not necessarily like our voices.
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  • - Yeah.
  • 00:10:55.280 --> 00:10:57.100
  • - They may not necessarily be our advocate,
  • 00:10:57.100 --> 00:10:59.040
  • and our bridge, and our praise, and they pray for us.
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  • You may not always have that.
  • 00:11:03.140 --> 00:11:05.000
  • But the majority of the time, the majority
  • 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.070
  • of the female sex, I believe, we advocate for one another.
  • 00:11:07.070 --> 00:11:12.060
  • - I think it's difficult for millennials
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  • to find their voice because there
  • 00:11:14.280 --> 00:11:17.280
  • has never been a time we have been more aware
  • 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:22.080
  • of everyone else's voices.
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  • Back in the day, when you didn't have easy access
  • 00:11:23.250 --> 00:11:26.070
  • to instantly be somewhere else,
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  • or instantly see someone else's life,
  • 00:11:29.130 --> 00:11:31.150
  • back in the day, there weren't as many people
  • 00:11:31.150 --> 00:11:33.220
  • to compare yourself to.
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  • There weren't as many things to be jealous of.
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  • Maybe you had more time or more space
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  • or more breathing room to discover who you were
  • 00:11:39.100 --> 00:11:42.080
  • and where you fit in the world.
  • 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:43.250
  • But now, you have easy access to see what everyone's doing,
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  • what everyone looks like, what everyone's lives are like.
  • 00:11:47.160 --> 00:11:52.080
  • So, I think it's hard for millennials
  • 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:53.220
  • to find their own voice because we are so busy looking
  • 00:11:53.220 --> 00:11:57.030
  • at everyone else's lives
  • 00:11:57.030 --> 00:11:58.190
  • and listening to everyone else's voices.
  • 00:11:58.190 --> 00:11:59.280
  • It's hard.
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  • It is so loud, it is hard to hear our own voice.
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  • It's hard to think that we matter
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  • when we see all these other people.
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  • It's hard to think that we are as good as all these people
  • 00:12:06.180 --> 00:12:08.240
  • when we just see the best of whatever they post online.
  • 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:11.020
  • And it's hard to have any time or space of silence
  • 00:12:11.020 --> 00:12:14.060
  • to just be alone with our thoughts.
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  • We can't hear the voice of God
  • 00:12:16.230 --> 00:12:18.140
  • when we're so busy listening to other people.
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  • We can't see what God has right in front of us
  • 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:23.260
  • when we're busy looking at what other people are doing.
  • 00:12:23.260 --> 00:12:26.030
  • And when we're scrolling through our Instagrams
  • 00:12:26.030 --> 00:12:28.080
  • more than we're scrolling through the Word of God,
  • 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.030
  • and when we're listening to people on Twitter
  • 00:12:30.030 --> 00:12:31.270
  • more than we're listening to the voice of God,
  • 00:12:31.270 --> 00:12:33.240
  • and when we're so distracted obsessing about other people,
  • 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:36.180
  • of course we don't know who we are.
  • 00:12:36.180 --> 00:12:40.000
  • - If I had a chance to talk to my 20 year old self,
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  • I would tell myself, you need to stop
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  • trying to be friends with people who don't even like you.
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  • You need to actually work on becoming
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  • the best person that you can be,
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  • and stop looking for some guy to complete your life.
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  • Pretty much everybody from high school is gonna be
  • 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:59.120
  • out of your life.
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  • So, you need to actually get a whole new group of friends.
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  • I would also say, don't take yourself so seriously.
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  • (gentle music)
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  • - I haven't had a lot of voices trying to tell me
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  • what I had to be.
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  • My mother-in-law was such a gift to me
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  • in allowing me to be who I was.
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  • That's amazing.
  • 00:13:34.020 --> 00:13:36.110
  • - Finding your voice is not an overnight thing.
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  • You don't go from, it's just like a baby.
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  • A baby, you know, their first sound is like, wah, right?
  • 00:13:40.150 --> 00:13:43.240
  • And then 20 years later, you're hoping
  • 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.220
  • they actually have something else to say, right?
  • 00:13:45.220 --> 00:13:47.290
  • They've found their voice.
  • 00:13:47.290 --> 00:13:49.050
  • And so, I just think that's how it is with us
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  • with following Jesus.
  • 00:13:51.130 --> 00:13:53.120
  • - Especially raising four daughters,
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  • I think I've discovered the value of my voice
  • 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:58.020
  • by seeing that I have four little girls at home
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  • that didn't have the same story
  • 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.210
  • or makeup that I grew up in.
  • 00:14:03.210 --> 00:14:05.170
  • So, it really made me so aware that they were
  • 00:14:05.170 --> 00:14:09.130
  • leaning on every word.
  • 00:14:09.130 --> 00:14:10.250
  • Like a bird would feed the younger bird.
  • 00:14:10.250 --> 00:14:13.290
  • It's like mouth to mouth.
  • 00:14:13.290 --> 00:14:15.220
  • And, so, from mouth to mouth in the spirit,
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  • or in my inner-most being,
  • 00:14:18.160 --> 00:14:20.290
  • I know they were relying their confidence on me.
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  • I can recall my daughter Alexandra.
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  • She's the youngest out of the four,
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  • and I notice that she had hesitancy speaking,
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  • looking at adults, hiding behind my skirt, so to speak.
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  • Very much a wallflower.
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  • And I decided that I would help her build her confidence
  • 00:14:48.090 --> 00:14:52.290
  • when speaking to adults.
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  • So, whenever we go to Barnes and Noble or Target
  • 00:14:54.130 --> 00:14:59.020
  • and she wanted something, I would tell her,
  • 00:14:59.020 --> 00:15:01.010
  • okay, Alexandra, I want you to ask the adult,
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  • this lady or this gentleman.
  • 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:05.260
  • I'll be right here if you need me.
  • 00:15:05.260 --> 00:15:07.260
  • And so she would ask, and when she felt like
  • 00:15:07.260 --> 00:15:11.090
  • she couldn't continue the conversation or follow through
  • 00:15:11.090 --> 00:15:14.040
  • on the question or the ask,
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  • I would easily step in and help her.
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  • So, I gave her a visual that Mommy was acting
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  • like training wheels for her voice.
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  • Mom, you know everything!
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  • I'm so glad that you think that way!
  • 00:15:26.210 --> 00:15:29.250
  • - Your daughters say, Mom, you know everything?
  • 00:15:29.250 --> 00:15:31.180
  • - Yes, when they were younger.
  • 00:15:31.180 --> 00:15:32.270
  • (laughing)
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  • - 'Cause they get about 14 and they're like,
  • 00:15:34.250 --> 00:15:36.060
  • you know nothing!
  • 00:15:36.060 --> 00:15:37.050
  • - Yes, yes!
  • 00:15:37.050 --> 00:15:38.160
  • But they have grown to such a state
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  • of stature and favor and loyalty and honor,
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  • they know how to do that with their friends now.
  • 00:15:47.210 --> 00:15:50.010
  • Friends that don't have maybe Mom and Dad at home.
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  • Friends that maybe Mom is not mentally well.
  • 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:57.120
  • Maybe they have their own struggles,
  • 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.160
  • and so my daughters are passing on what I passed onto them,
  • 00:15:59.160 --> 00:16:03.050
  • which is encouragement, strength,
  • 00:16:03.050 --> 00:16:05.080
  • an honest character, confrontation.
  • 00:16:07.090 --> 00:16:10.150
  • Healthy confrontation where there's accountability.
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  • They're able to pass that onto their friendships.
  • 00:16:13.170 --> 00:16:17.010
  • So, when it comes to finding our voice,
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  • or finding the value of our voice,
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  • I think I've found it with my young ones,
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  • seeing that they lean on me and now I'm able
  • 00:16:26.160 --> 00:16:29.080
  • to pass that onto a whole generation of women
  • 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.150
  • that are in our congregation.
  • 00:16:32.150 --> 00:16:34.100
  • Different races, different colors, different age groups,
  • 00:16:34.100 --> 00:16:38.120
  • older women callin' me Mom because they've never had that.
  • 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:42.000
  • - Right.
  • 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:43.190
  • - It's important.
  • 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:44.250
  • It doesn't matter if you're older in number,
  • 00:16:44.250 --> 00:16:46.270
  • you're someone's older.
  • 00:16:46.270 --> 00:16:48.110
  • - Right. - In some way,
  • 00:16:48.110 --> 00:16:49.210
  • fashion, or form.
  • 00:16:49.210 --> 00:16:51.120
  • - I think when we realize that God uses
  • 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.000
  • every person on the planet, that's what we're all here for,
  • 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.170
  • is for Him, and when we realize the depth
  • 00:16:58.170 --> 00:17:02.000
  • and the length and the breadth of His love for us,
  • 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.110
  • that we are responsible for what we say to others.
  • 00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:07.180
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  • (gentle music)
  • 00:17:17.110 --> 00:17:18.180
  • - I remember getting ready to go preach,
  • 00:17:18.180 --> 00:17:22.210
  • and I was like, "All right!
  • 00:17:22.210 --> 00:17:24.080
  • "Which of my three messages, here,
  • 00:17:24.080 --> 00:17:26.030
  • "you have your choices, A, B, or C, God.
  • 00:17:26.030 --> 00:17:27.200
  • "Which am I doing today?"
  • 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.020
  • Nothing.
  • 00:17:29.020 --> 00:17:30.180
  • I'm like, "Okay, I've gotta get picked up in 15 minutes,
  • 00:17:30.180 --> 00:17:34.050
  • "you know, I need to know, I need some spirit!"
  • 00:17:34.050 --> 00:17:37.040
  • And he was like, "I want you to go in
  • 00:17:37.040 --> 00:17:40.010
  • "and I want you to tell those women
  • 00:17:40.010 --> 00:17:42.090
  • "what I did in your life a year ago.
  • 00:17:42.090 --> 00:17:44.040
  • "I want you to tell them, 'my name is Lisa Bevere.'"
  • 00:17:44.040 --> 00:17:47.010
  • 'Cause I was young, I was, like, your age.
  • 00:17:47.010 --> 00:17:48.160
  • So I tried to impress them.
  • 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.230
  • I thought it was performance.
  • 00:17:50.230 --> 00:17:52.040
  • I forgot it was a service.
  • 00:17:52.040 --> 00:17:53.170
  • I forgot that I was there to serve the women.
  • 00:17:53.170 --> 00:17:55.180
  • And so I'd be like, "Oh, I used to do television,
  • 00:17:55.180 --> 00:17:57.210
  • "I used to do makeup."
  • 00:17:57.210 --> 00:17:59.060
  • And God said, you're gonna get up and you're gonna say,
  • 00:17:59.060 --> 00:18:00.160
  • "I am Lisa Bevere and I am a mess."
  • 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.010
  • And I said, "They're gonna leave, they're gonna leave.
  • 00:18:02.010 --> 00:18:03.220
  • "They're gonna be like, we don't need a mess!"
  • 00:18:03.220 --> 00:18:05.090
  • And He said, "I want you to share how I set you free
  • 00:18:05.090 --> 00:18:07.090
  • "from anger and how you almost physically abused your son.
  • 00:18:07.090 --> 00:18:11.200
  • "I want you to share."
  • 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:12.250
  • And that was the turning point for me.
  • 00:18:12.250 --> 00:18:14.240
  • Well, I saw women come running down to the altar,
  • 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:18.280
  • repenting and confessing, 'cause I talked about there's
  • 00:18:18.280 --> 00:18:21.170
  • the difference between confession and an apology.
  • 00:18:21.170 --> 00:18:24.050
  • And, for me, that shifted everything because my voice
  • 00:18:24.050 --> 00:18:29.000
  • isn't just for me to have people listen.
  • 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.050
  • - No, right. - It's a life transformation.
  • 00:18:32.050 --> 00:18:34.170
  • - It's an honest force, you were honest.
  • 00:18:34.170 --> 00:18:36.180
  • - Yeah, that is powerful.
  • 00:18:36.180 --> 00:18:38.030
  • First Corinthians 1 actually has this verse that says,
  • 00:18:38.030 --> 00:18:41.210
  • "Your life story confirms the story of the Anointed One,"
  • 00:18:41.210 --> 00:18:46.200
  • who is Jesus.
  • 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:47.270
  • And I think that's what's so powerful.
  • 00:18:47.270 --> 00:18:49.120
  • When people are trying to find their unique voice,
  • 00:18:49.120 --> 00:18:51.130
  • and where do I fit?
  • 00:18:51.130 --> 00:18:52.160
  • And who should I look like?
  • 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:53.230
  • There's this idea that your life story
  • 00:18:53.230 --> 00:18:55.220
  • is confirming the story of Jesus.
  • 00:18:55.220 --> 00:18:58.130
  • You being more of who you already are is the best plan
  • 00:18:58.130 --> 00:19:02.070
  • for people just to see more of Jesus,
  • 00:19:02.070 --> 00:19:04.010
  • 'cause you are just this complex person
  • 00:19:04.010 --> 00:19:05.140
  • with all these things, and this complex person
  • 00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:07.160
  • with all these things, so the more
  • 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:08.240
  • that you bring out more of who you already,
  • 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:11.070
  • naturally are, the more it's gonna just confirm
  • 00:19:11.070 --> 00:19:14.100
  • the vastness and the grace and the story of Jesus.
  • 00:19:14.100 --> 00:19:17.160
  • I think if we want to hear God's voice,
  • 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.140
  • we have to be disciplined. We have to be intentional.
  • 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:22.070
  • So, for example.
  • 00:19:22.070 --> 00:19:23.220
  • For me, I realized that I wasn't spending enough time
  • 00:19:23.220 --> 00:19:27.030
  • in the Word of God.
  • 00:19:27.030 --> 00:19:28.200
  • I was just so busy.
  • 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:31.200
  • And the Word of God wasn't fun for me anymore,
  • 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:35.190
  • like I read the Word of God for work in my office,
  • 00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:38.010
  • and so I realized that I wasn't reading the Word of God
  • 00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:39.280
  • 'cause I was too busy and it was no longer fun.
  • 00:19:39.280 --> 00:19:42.170
  • So, I had to pause, reassess what my life is like.
  • 00:19:42.170 --> 00:19:47.070
  • What do I like?
  • 00:19:47.070 --> 00:19:48.060
  • What do I enjoy?
  • 00:19:48.060 --> 00:19:49.110
  • And intentionally create a space and a time
  • 00:19:49.110 --> 00:19:51.240
  • where I would read the Word of God just to know Him,
  • 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:54.180
  • just for fun, just to be with Him, just to hear from Him.
  • 00:19:54.180 --> 00:19:57.200
  • - All right, what you said about even having
  • 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:59.240
  • to bring up something that no one else
  • 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.260
  • on the planet has ever said.
  • 00:20:01.260 --> 00:20:03.040
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:20:03.040 --> 00:20:03.290
  • (laughing)
  • 00:20:03.290 --> 00:20:05.150
  • A powerful testimony about what God has done for me.
  • 00:20:05.150 --> 00:20:09.000
  • - People think that your testimony is, I was in drugs,
  • 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.190
  • and I was this, and I was that,
  • 00:20:12.190 --> 00:20:14.040
  • and it doesn't have to be there.
  • 00:20:14.040 --> 00:20:15.190
  • Just the saving power of Jesus Christ on your life
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  • and what he's done for you is what we all have a testimony.
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  • We all can share that.
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  • - So, when you hear His voice,
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  • kind of like we all had those moments,
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  • for me it was in a closet, right,
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  • hear His voice and it gives you permission to have a voice.
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  • And then, I think, finding your voice is the discovery.
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  • I don't think it's--
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  • - You haven't lost your voice.
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  • You're actually discovering what's inside.
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  • Yeah, It's an excavation project.
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  • - I think there's a voice to a family,
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  • there's a voice to a patient if you're a nurse,
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  • it's finding your voice in the different arenas of life
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  • and what you do. - Yeah.
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  • - I thank You, God, that You made her just the way she is.
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  • You created her in her mother's womb.
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  • You created her.
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  • You put together her personality and her gifting,
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  • and God, I pray that she would sense Your endorsement
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  • right now, Spirit of God,
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  • that You would do what only You could do,
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  • and that right now, my sister, right on the other side
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  • of this camera right now, she senses Your endorsement,
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  • Your support, Your encouragement.
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  • She senses You.
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  • And then, God, I just pray for that woman,
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  • somewhere in the world, who is struggling with her voice.
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  • Maybe she's been told she can't.
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  • That she doesn't have a voice.
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  • That she needs to be silent.
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  • Or, maybe, she's just afraid, or insecure, whatever it is.
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  • But she's not using the voice that You gave her
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  • in whatever situation.
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  • And so, Father, right now I just pray
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  • that supernaturally, that You would open her mouth.
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  • Open her mouth with wisdom, open her mouth with kindness,
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  • with words that bring life, that You would open her mouth.
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  • Give her the words and the voice
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  • that You would have for her.
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  • I thank you, Father, in Jesus name.
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  • Amen.
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  • - [Narrator] Better Together is grounded in prayer,
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  • and we wanna pray for you.
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  • You can call the number on your screen
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  • or message us on social media from prayer request
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  • to praise reports.
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  • We wanna hear what God is doing in your life.
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  • - I'm asking for a friend!
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  • (laughing)
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  • If you could be any animal, what would you be?
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  • - Ooh, a little puppy.
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  • - A little puppy?
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  • - Yeah!
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  • - What kind of puppy?
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  • - A Yorkie.
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  • - Really? - Yeah!
  • 00:22:46.150 --> 00:22:47.230
  • - They just seem like they're yippy and yappy.
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  • You don't seem like that person!
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  • - No, just that, you know, small and cuddly.
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  • - Small and cuddly. - Yes.
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  • - Okay, I would be a black panther.
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  • - Ooh! (laughing)
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  • A little fierce!
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  • - Yeah, a little fierce.
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  • I saw the movie, I'm all about it.
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  • - Hey. (laughing)
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  • - [Narrator] Here's what's happening next time
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  • on Better Together.
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  • - When we think of interferences,
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  • we think of almost like a muzzle,
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  • and oftentimes when we think of overcoming something,
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  • it's not necessarily something physical
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  • but something internal.
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  • - [Narrator] Tune in weekdays for Better Together.
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