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December 22, 2016
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Episode 4

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  • - Ben Little: Welcome back to
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  • "The Countdown."
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  • This is "The Countdown."
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  • - Ben Fielding: It's good
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  • to be back.
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  • - Ben Little: To be honest,
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  • I am down for the count.
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  • We are here with my incredible
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  • hosts, Ben Fielding,
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  • the one and only.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Thank you,
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  • mate.
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  • - Ben Little: Thank you.
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  • And then on the end there,
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  • Niyah, beautiful, precious
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  • Niyah, just helping us host
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  • the show.
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  • Guys, we've had a massive year,
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  • 2016.
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  • - Niyah Rahmaan: So many
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  • great shows.
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  • I love them.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Yeah, we've
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  • had--I was gonna so too many but
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  • not too many.
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  • - Ben Little: Not too many,
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  • - Niyah: We just started this
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  • year, so we just launched,
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  • and it's amazing.
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  • - Ben Little: We got
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  • the "United Mixtape," which is
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  • an awesome show.
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  • We got some highlighting shows
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  • on Young & Free.
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  • - Ben Fielding: I've been
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  • enjoying "The Big HQ."
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  • - Ben Little: "The Big HQ."
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  • - Niyah: Yes, it's a kids'
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  • program, a kids' show.
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  • He watches it really quite,
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  • you know, frequently.
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  • You know he don't miss
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  • an episode.
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  • - Ben Little: It's just
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  • an engaging drama that you just
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  • don't wanna miss out on.
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  • - Niyah: Mind you, it's
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  • for kids.
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  • - Ben Little: Yeah.
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  • Now, we got pastors Brian
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  • and Bobbie teaching scattered
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  • throughout the channel
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  • this year.
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  • It's been awesome.
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  • - Niyah: And we're bringing
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  • all this to you guys on
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  • "The Countdown."
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  • Christmas is right around
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  • the corner.
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  • I'm excited.
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  • Are you ready?
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  • - Ben Little: I'm so ready.
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  • - Niyah: Did you get your
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  • wife's gift?
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  • Did you get the kids' gifts?
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  • - Ben Little: I've got
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  • the kids' gifts.
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  • I've got the wife gifts.
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  • And I've got a little something
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  • extra special for my wife,
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  • but I don't want to--
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  • - Niyah: Drop a little hint.
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  • She's not watching.
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  • She's not watching this.
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  • - Ben Little: Yeah, I can't
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  • drop it like it's hot.
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  • In our household, we will be
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  • watching this show religiously
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  • so I can't drop it right now.
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  • - Ben Fielding: No, no,
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  • absolutely not.
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  • - Niyah: Did you get your
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  • wife's gift?
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  • - Ben Fielding: Nah.
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  • It just says to her there's
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  • always next year.
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  • It keeps her in the game.
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  • - Niyah: I hope it's like,
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  • you know, really sparkly.
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  • Does your wife like
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  • sparkly things?
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  • - Ben Fielding: Yes, she
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  • does now.
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  • You know her well.
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  • - Niyah: Yes, I knew it.
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  • So, how much--how do you
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  • gauge that?
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  • By being a good financial
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  • steward.
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  • You know, we wanna be
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  • a good financial steward.
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  • How do you gauge the amount that
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  • you spend on your wife each year
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  • for Christmas?
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  • - Ben Fielding: I normally just
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  • think of a figure and then start
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  • reducing it.
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  • - Niyah: Do you go--how high
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  • do you go?
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  • - Ben Fielding: Well--
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  • - Niyah: I mean, if we're gonna
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  • go sparkly, I mean, I need you
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  • in double digits.
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  • I mean, when it comes to--
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  • - Ben Fielding: Well, I don't
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  • know about you, Niyah, but I'm
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  • not made of money.
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  • What is this?
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  • - Ben Little: Money doesn't
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  • grow on Christmas trees, Niyah.
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  • - Niyah: Well, I'm--but you
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  • work hard.
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  • You work hard for that day
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  • so you can go ahead and splurge
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  • on her.
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  • Why are you holding
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  • back, gentlemen?
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  • Why are you holding back?
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  • - Ben Fielding: Great financial
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  • advice.
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  • Don't spend what you don't have.
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  • - Niyah: Ooh, that's good.
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  • That's like a Dave Ramsey,
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  • you know, type, you know,
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  • financial advice.
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  • - Ben Little: Yeah,
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  • or a spiritual principle.
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  • You can choose.
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  • - Niyah: A spiritual principle,
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  • being a good steward of what
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  • the Lord gives us.
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  • I love it.
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  • - Ben Little: Can you--if
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  • you're gonna bang anyone's pen,
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  • can you--
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  • - Niyah: I'm getting all in his
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  • personal space.
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  • - Ben Little: Can you just
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  • bang your own pen, please?
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  • - Niyah: I wanna know--listen,
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  • I wanna know what you're gonna
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  • get your wife but we'll get to
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  • that in the next six, you know,
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  • in the next--
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  • - Ben Fielding: Yeah, we will.
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  • There's plenty of time.
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  • - Ben Little: Coming up on
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  • this show, we have Taya Smith.
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  • Get out of town.
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  • Shut the front door.
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  • - Niyah: Come on.
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  • - Ben Little: We also have
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  • Jonathan Douglass, also known as
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  • JD jumping onset.
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  • I can't wait to see him,
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  • his passionate faith.
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  • - Ben Fielding: He's always
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  • full of energy.
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  • - Ben Little: He is.
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  • - Ben Fielding: He never
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  • disappoints.
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  • - Niyah: And then who's
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  • coming up?
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  • Who's interviewing
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  • Pastor Brian Houston?
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  • We're gonna go to that clip soon
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  • right now.
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  • - Ben Fielding: We've got
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  • Carey Nieuwhof
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  • who's interviewing Pastor Brian,
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  • and it's a great interview about
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  • church planting.
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  • - Niyah: Well, about this
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  • church how it started, right?
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  • So, don't go anywhere.
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  • - Carey Nieuwhof: I loved your
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  • new book, "Live, Love, Lead,"
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  • and in it you told some really
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  • personal stories sort of--and
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  • what I loved about it, I always
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  • love when, you know, you see
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  • someone who's had the fruit
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  • in ministry, the success in
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  • ministry that you have to go
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  • back to those early days.
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  • And you spend an awful lot of
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  • time in the early days of
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  • the ministry.
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  • You grew the church with,
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  • I think, 70 people and then you
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  • grew it down to what, 40?
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  • - Brian Houston: Yeah, 4 weeks,
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  • 70, 65, 53, 45.
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  • So, it worked out it was only
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  • 4 1/2 more weeks until there
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  • - Carey: You're speaking to
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  • every church planter who's
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  • watching right now, and some of
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  • them are in that 3- to 4-week
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  • dilemma right now.
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  • I mean, the grace of God is
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  • incredible, and you talk
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  • about it all the time.
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  • But did you--I mean this is like
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  • did you ever think that God
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  • would do this?
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  • And other than the grace of God,
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  • why do you think this has
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  • exploded the way it has,
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  • Hillsong?
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  • - Brian: You know, I was always
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  • a visionary.
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  • I mean, from 5 years of age,
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  • I remember just one day wanting
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  • to just build a great church
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  • and be a preacher.
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  • And so, you know, I've sort of
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  • had that in my heart.
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  • And I think I was always a big
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  • thinker but I can honestly say I
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  • could never, ever have imagined
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  • the extent of opportunity God
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  • has brought our way.
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  • And I stand amazed.
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  • I still amazed at our
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  • home church, just looking out on
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  • a Sunday night where we've
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  • completely jammed what is our
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  • main campus.
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  • And I still get overwhelmed by
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  • the grace of God every week
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  • after 32 years.
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  • - Carey: So, you think vision
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  • was a big part of it.
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  • You always had a big vision
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  • and it was bigger, obviously,
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  • than 70 people or 45 people.
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  • What were some of the other
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  • ingredients you think that has
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  • helped Hillsong become what it
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  • is today?
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  • - Brian: I do think vision has
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  • been a huge part of it.
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  • I think we've just really
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  • focused on building
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  • a healthy culture.
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  • You know, a lot of pastors focus
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  • a lot on the growth of
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  • the church.
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  • I like to focus on the health of
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  • the church 'cause healthy things
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  • grow.
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  • And so, you know, I think
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  • sometimes to move upward,
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  • you've gotta sort of stay
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  • healthy inward.
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  • So, I see that as a major thing.
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  • I think we've always tried to
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  • identify with the culture
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  • without compromising, obviously,
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  • the Word.
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  • But at the end of the day, you
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  • know, if God decides to put his
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  • kiss, put his smile on
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  • something, he does it.
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  • And at the end of the day,
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  • I say, "To God be the glory,"
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  • 'cause I sure have my
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  • limitations.
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  • - Carey: I know health is a big
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  • part of a lot of cultures and I
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  • think one of the reasons a lot
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  • of churches don't grow is
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  • because there's dysfunction
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  • at the core.
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  • There's fractured relationships
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  • or just, you know, personal
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  • integrity issues.
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  • What have been some of
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  • the markers of health for you?
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  • You think back to the early
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  • days, but also as you look at
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  • Hillsong globally now, I know
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  • you blog about that kind of
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  • thing as well.
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  • But just what are some of
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  • the key markers of health that
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  • you look for in a church?
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  • - Brian: I often think of that
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  • Scripture where in the Scripture
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  • John spoke to his friend Gaius,
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  • said, "Beloved, I wish above all
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  • else you'll prosper and be
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  • in good health even as your
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  • soul prospers."
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  • And I think every church, every
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  • organization, has a soul and if
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  • the soul is prosperous, then
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  • the church will be prosperous.
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  • By prosperous, I mean
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  • flourishing, healthy.
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  • And so, you know, to me
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  • there's little things that we've
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  • coined, little sayings,
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  • little statements.
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  • For example, because our church
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  • is well known for worship, and
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  • therefore a lot of our people
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  • are famous, if you like,
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  • in the Christian world.
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  • - Carey: Yeah, sure they are.
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  • - Brian: There's things like
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  • what I'm part of is bigger than
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  • the part I play.
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  • You know, people have really
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  • embraced that.
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  • Another one's a gift--
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  • Hillsong Church
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  • is not built on the gifts
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  • and talents of a few but on
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  • the sacrifices of many,
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  • which is absolutely true.
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  • I really believe that one of the
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  • things that marks our church is
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  • just the servant-hearted people
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  • in our church.
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  • It's easy to look at all of
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  • the aesthetics, obviously,
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  • things like music and lights
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  • and the things that--to do with
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  • production.
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  • But I really feel the goal with
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  • our church is the spirit
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  • and the heart of the people.
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  • They're just amazing.
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  • And we've been blessed with
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  • longevity like an amazing team
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  • that have been with us for
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  • a long, long time, and I think
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  • part of that's just keeping on
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  • lifting the ceilings for people.
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  • If you want your church
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  • to really explode, I don't feel
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  • like you can get threatened by
  • 00:07:36.230 --> 00:07:39.230
  • successful people.
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  • I believe you need to reinforce
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  • and embrace and build people
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  • - Niyah: Well, I love so much
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  • wisdom from Pastor Brian.
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  • We get to see so many different
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  • clips, and wisdom is key.
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  • - Ben Fielding: That's right.
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  • Let's not forget
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  • Pastor Carey Nieuwhof
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  • for just asking the right
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  • questions there.
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  • Unbelievable.
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  • - Niyah: Huge, huge.
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  • Wisdom.
  • 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:01.230
  • And speaking of wisdom,
  • 00:08:01.230 --> 00:08:04.030
  • I know these guys.
  • 00:08:04.030 --> 00:08:05.040
  • I know you guys were joking
  • 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:06.210
  • before about the wives.
  • 00:08:06.210 --> 00:08:08.110
  • I asked them the question what
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  • they plan on getting their wives
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  • for Christmas.
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  • And we were talking,
  • 00:08:12.280 --> 00:08:14.150
  • and I love you.
  • 00:08:14.150 --> 00:08:15.110
  • You have to use wisdom here.
  • 00:08:15.110 --> 00:08:16.230
  • Now, I'm gonna ask you again,
  • 00:08:16.230 --> 00:08:18.240
  • what are you really
  • 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.000
  • getting them?
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  • - Ben Little: I might have
  • 00:08:20.220 --> 00:08:21.090
  • said a couple funny jokes there
  • 00:08:21.090 --> 00:08:23.170
  • but honestly, I have got my wife
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  • the best gift.
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  • Ben, what are you--what have you
  • 00:08:27.020 --> 00:08:28.070
  • gotten your wife?
  • 00:08:28.070 --> 00:08:31.070
  • - Ben Fielding: I bought my
  • 00:08:31.070 --> 00:08:32.090
  • wife a little bit of jewelry.
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  • - Niyah: Yes, you did.
  • 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:35.080
  • - Ben Fielding: My wife is
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  • incredible.
  • 00:08:36.140 --> 00:08:37.060
  • It's not a competition, Ben,
  • 00:08:37.060 --> 00:08:38.160
  • but she's pretty fantastic.
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  • - Ben Little: Yeah, but if
  • 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:41.010
  • they were competing--
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  • - Ben Fielding: Probably win.
  • 00:08:41.290 --> 00:08:42.200
  • Not a big deal.
  • 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:43.110
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, I got ya.
  • 00:08:43.110 --> 00:08:44.080
  • - Ben Fielding: But, you know,
  • 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:45.000
  • I mean our wives, incredible.
  • 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:46.210
  • Do so much for our families,
  • 00:08:46.210 --> 00:08:48.070
  • for us.
  • 00:08:48.070 --> 00:08:48.220
  • We obviously are gonna--
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  • - Niyah: Do you do
  • 00:08:49.230 --> 00:08:50.090
  • multiple gifts?
  • 00:08:50.090 --> 00:08:51.020
  • Because they're also moms, too,
  • 00:08:51.020 --> 00:08:52.170
  • so you do--you gotta
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  • get a gift for being
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  • just an awesome wife,
  • 00:08:54.220 --> 00:08:56.010
  • for being a mom.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Bottom line is
  • 00:08:57.140 --> 00:08:58.030
  • this, you must outdo your kids,
  • 00:08:58.030 --> 00:08:59.030
  • starting point.
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  • - Niyah: There you go.
  • 00:08:59.230 --> 00:09:00.130
  • - Ben Fielding: Okay, they
  • 00:09:00.130 --> 00:09:01.000
  • don't have any income.
  • 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:01.190
  • - Ben Little: You gotta spend
  • 00:09:01.190 --> 00:09:02.080
  • more than your kids.
  • 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:02.250
  • - Ben Fielding: You gotta up it
  • 00:09:02.250 --> 00:09:03.140
  • from there.
  • 00:09:03.140 --> 00:09:04.120
  • - Ben Little: Now, I actually
  • 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:05.190
  • go the extra mile.
  • 00:09:05.190 --> 00:09:06.290
  • You probably wouldn't do this,
  • 00:09:06.290 --> 00:09:07.170
  • Ben.
  • 00:09:07.170 --> 00:09:08.030
  • It's not a competition.
  • 00:09:08.030 --> 00:09:09.010
  • But I do a gift for each hour.
  • 00:09:09.010 --> 00:09:10.200
  • - Ben Fielding: I go an extra
  • 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:11.080
  • 2 miles.
  • 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:11.240
  • Again, not a competition.
  • 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:12.220
  • - Ben Little: I do a gift for
  • 00:09:12.220 --> 00:09:13.110
  • each hour of Christmas.
  • 00:09:13.110 --> 00:09:13.270
  • - Niyah: Ooh, drop the mike.
  • 00:09:13.270 --> 00:09:15.110
  • I love that.
  • 00:09:15.110 --> 00:09:15.290
  • Let's stay there a little bit.
  • 00:09:15.290 --> 00:09:16.290
  • A gift for each hour?
  • 00:09:16.290 --> 00:09:18.050
  • Okay, to his wife, you are
  • 00:09:18.050 --> 00:09:19.220
  • blessed and highly favored, sis.
  • 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:21.240
  • This is awesome.
  • 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.260
  • But make sure--let us know
  • 00:09:22.260 --> 00:09:24.050
  • exactly which gift.
  • 00:09:24.050 --> 00:09:25.180
  • Okay, we're not talking about
  • 00:09:25.180 --> 00:09:26.130
  • liking--
  • 00:09:26.130 --> 00:09:27.050
  • - Ben Little: No, like
  • 00:09:27.050 --> 00:09:27.220
  • perfume.
  • 00:09:27.220 --> 00:09:28.090
  • Like I start at chocolates
  • 00:09:28.090 --> 00:09:29.220
  • about, you know, mid chocolates.
  • 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:31.220
  • About 14th, 15th hour I start to
  • 00:09:31.220 --> 00:09:33.290
  • up it and I do some different--
  • 00:09:33.290 --> 00:09:35.260
  • - Ben Fielding: You're leaving
  • 00:09:35.260 --> 00:09:36.160
  • it very late in the day.
  • 00:09:36.160 --> 00:09:37.050
  • - Ben Little: Well, we're
  • 00:09:37.050 --> 00:09:38.160
  • asleep but I'm still giving
  • 00:09:38.160 --> 00:09:39.160
  • her gifts.
  • 00:09:39.160 --> 00:09:40.240
  • It's actually really special
  • 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.070
  • but yeah.
  • 00:09:42.070 --> 00:09:43.160
  • - Ben Fielding: Well, may
  • 00:09:43.160 --> 00:09:44.050
  • I just--I think Carly's
  • 00:09:44.050 --> 00:09:45.100
  • a lucky woman.
  • 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:46.090
  • It's gonna be a great Christmas
  • 00:09:46.090 --> 00:09:47.050
  • 2016 in the Little house.
  • 00:09:47.050 --> 00:09:49.040
  • - Ben Little: I love you, babe.
  • 00:09:49.040 --> 00:09:50.110
  • - Ben Fielding: Let's just have
  • 00:09:50.110 --> 00:09:51.060
  • a moment.
  • 00:09:51.060 --> 00:09:52.090
  • - Ben Little: I'm coming home
  • 00:09:52.090 --> 00:09:52.270
  • tonight.
  • 00:09:52.270 --> 00:09:54.100
  • - Ben Fielding: Beautiful,
  • 00:09:54.100 --> 00:09:54.290
  • beautiful.
  • 00:09:54.290 --> 00:09:55.220
  • Now, we're just about to cut to
  • 00:09:55.220 --> 00:09:56.230
  • a short break, but then we'll be
  • 00:09:56.230 --> 00:09:57.270
  • right back and we will have
  • 00:09:57.270 --> 00:09:58.280
  • Taya Smith right here on
  • 00:09:58.280 --> 00:10:00.250
  • "The Countdown."
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  • - Niyah: Taya Smith.
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  • - Ben Little: Hello.
  • 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:02.180
  • - Niyah: She's coming right
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  • - Niyah: Welcome back to
  • 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:13.000
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:13.250
  • Now, we are really getting--this
  • 00:10:13.250 --> 00:10:15.080
  • episode is really getting good
  • 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:16.250
  • because we have none other with
  • 00:10:16.250 --> 00:10:18.200
  • us right here is
  • 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.060
  • Miss Taya Smith, yes.
  • 00:10:20.060 --> 00:10:23.010
  • Tay-Tay.
  • 00:10:23.010 --> 00:10:24.210
  • I call her Tay-Tay because you
  • 00:10:24.210 --> 00:10:25.260
  • know in my heart, you're from
  • 00:10:25.260 --> 00:10:27.250
  • Brooklyn, you're from New York.
  • 00:10:27.250 --> 00:10:29.050
  • You know what I'm saying?
  • 00:10:29.050 --> 00:10:29.250
  • - Ben Fielding: There are a lot
  • 00:10:29.250 --> 00:10:31.000
  • of Tay-Tays in
  • 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.000
  • Brooklyn, New York?
  • 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:33.250
  • - Niyah: There's a Tay-Tay.
  • 00:10:33.250 --> 00:10:35.040
  • There's a--you know what I'm
  • 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:35.210
  • saying?
  • 00:10:35.210 --> 00:10:36.070
  • We're gonna give you
  • 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:37.090
  • some nicknames.
  • 00:10:37.090 --> 00:10:38.010
  • Don't worry.
  • 00:10:38.010 --> 00:10:38.200
  • We're gonna include you.
  • 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:39.170
  • - Ben Little: Don't you worry
  • 00:10:39.170 --> 00:10:40.050
  • about that.
  • 00:10:40.050 --> 00:10:40.220
  • Where are you actually from?
  • 00:10:40.220 --> 00:10:41.090
  • You're not from Brooklyn.
  • 00:10:41.090 --> 00:10:42.160
  • - Niyah: I'm from Brooklyn
  • 00:10:42.160 --> 00:10:43.110
  • but I live now in L.A.
  • 00:10:43.110 --> 00:10:44.240
  • - Ben Fielding: And Taya, where
  • 00:10:46.270 --> 00:10:47.160
  • are you from?
  • 00:10:47.160 --> 00:10:48.120
  • - Taya Smith: Lismore.
  • 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:49.040
  • - Ben Little: Lismore.
  • 00:10:49.040 --> 00:10:49.280
  • - Taya: I mean roughly--
  • 00:10:49.280 --> 00:10:51.210
  • - Ben Fielding: How similar is
  • 00:10:51.210 --> 00:10:52.200
  • Lismore to Brooklyn in your
  • 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.140
  • opinion?
  • 00:10:54.140 --> 00:10:55.140
  • - Taya: I mean like--
  • 00:10:55.140 --> 00:10:56.230
  • - Niyah: She gets a pass,
  • 00:10:56.230 --> 00:10:57.100
  • everybody.
  • 00:10:57.100 --> 00:10:57.270
  • She gets a pass.
  • 00:10:57.270 --> 00:10:58.190
  • You get a card.
  • 00:10:58.190 --> 00:10:59.070
  • - Taya: Is it bad to say
  • 00:11:01.180 --> 00:11:02.050
  • country ghetto?
  • 00:11:02.050 --> 00:11:03.040
  • - Ben Fielding: No.
  • 00:11:03.040 --> 00:11:03.230
  • Yeah, I don't--I'm not familiar
  • 00:11:03.230 --> 00:11:06.020
  • with--
  • 00:11:06.020 --> 00:11:06.250
  • - Taya: I mean, it's a peculiar
  • 00:11:06.250 --> 00:11:09.070
  • taste but it's a taste,
  • 00:11:09.070 --> 00:11:10.100
  • nonetheless.
  • 00:11:10.100 --> 00:11:11.060
  • - Ben Fielding: Okay.
  • 00:11:11.060 --> 00:11:12.070
  • Tell us, what do you do?
  • 00:11:12.070 --> 00:11:13.000
  • Growing up in Lismore, what's
  • 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:13.240
  • a day look like?
  • 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.040
  • - Niyah: Where is Lismole?
  • 00:11:15.040 --> 00:11:15.280
  • - Taya: Lismore?
  • 00:11:15.280 --> 00:11:17.090
  • - Niyah: What's it called
  • 00:11:17.090 --> 00:11:18.020
  • Lismore?
  • 00:11:18.020 --> 00:11:20.040
  • - Taya: Okay, if you're not
  • 00:11:20.040 --> 00:11:22.060
  • from Lismore and you didn't
  • 00:11:22.060 --> 00:11:24.070
  • actually know where Lismore was,
  • 00:11:24.070 --> 00:11:26.060
  • I would claim Byron Bay 'cause
  • 00:11:26.060 --> 00:11:27.210
  • it sounds way cooler on
  • 00:11:27.210 --> 00:11:28.130
  • the Silver Coast.
  • 00:11:28.130 --> 00:11:29.260
  • But if you--I need to check
  • 00:11:29.260 --> 00:11:30.220
  • the like--
  • 00:11:30.220 --> 00:11:31.160
  • - Ben Fielding: So, you're on
  • 00:11:31.160 --> 00:11:32.040
  • the great content of Australia
  • 00:11:32.040 --> 00:11:32.280
  • just to help.
  • 00:11:32.280 --> 00:11:33.160
  • - Niyah: Got it.
  • 00:11:33.160 --> 00:11:34.150
  • - Taya: It's within Australia.
  • 00:11:34.150 --> 00:11:35.230
  • - Ben Little: It's on
  • 00:11:35.230 --> 00:11:36.110
  • the coast.
  • 00:11:36.110 --> 00:11:37.010
  • - Taya: On the coast.
  • 00:11:37.010 --> 00:11:37.280
  • - Ben Little: On the right.
  • 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:38.180
  • - Taya: Well, half an hour
  • 00:11:38.180 --> 00:11:39.100
  • inland from the coast.
  • 00:11:39.100 --> 00:11:39.290
  • But we'll claim the coast.
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  • And it's far north--north of
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  • New South Wales.
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  • - Niyah: So like, people from
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  • Melbourne would say they're from
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  • Sydney because it was--that was
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  • a plug at Ben.
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  • He's from Melbourne.
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  • I just couldn't help myself.
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  • - Ben Fielding: For your
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  • kind words.
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  • - Ben Little: Now Lismore,
  • 00:11:58.220 --> 00:11:59.140
  • you're like growing up on
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  • a farm?
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  • What are we talking about?
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  • - Taya: I mean, you could,
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  • you could.
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  • I definitely grew up more in the
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  • suburbs so I was on a farm but
  • 00:12:05.110 --> 00:12:07.040
  • it had a really big backyard.
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  • We had doves.
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  • - Ben Fielding: So,
  • 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:10.290
  • a quasi-farm?
  • 00:12:10.290 --> 00:12:12.040
  • Did you have any--did you have
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  • any animals?
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  • - Taya: We did.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Like, what kind
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  • of pets?
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  • Are we talking like a couple
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  • of dairy cows?
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  • Like what's the--kangaroo here
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  • and there?
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  • - Taya: Could you imagine?
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  • No, we had three fish and then
  • 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.060
  • when the three fish died, 'cause
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  • they ate each other--
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  • - Ben Fielding: Oh, how does
  • 00:12:26.170 --> 00:12:27.160
  • that happen?
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  • Isn't there one remaining fish,
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  • like one fish standing?
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  • - Taya: Yeah, but like--
  • 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:32.140
  • - Ben Fielding: Swimming?
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  • - Taya: Yeah, I think its eye
  • 00:12:33.050 --> 00:12:34.100
  • fell out though, the last one.
  • 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:35.160
  • So, I was like, mmm,
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  • it's time, so.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Tragic.
  • 00:12:38.040 --> 00:12:38.240
  • Tragic.
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  • - Taya: Said a couple of
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  • prayers and then popped it.
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  • - Ben Fielding: No fish were
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  • hurt in the making of this
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  • episode.
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  • - Taya: And then we got cats,
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  • which is--'cause I have
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  • two sisters so it's like each
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  • of us need--
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  • - Ben Fielding: One cat each.
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  • - Taya: Yeah, my poor parents.
  • 00:12:48.180 --> 00:12:49.100
  • - Ben Fielding: Wow, two cats.
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  • - Taya: And now there's
  • 00:12:51.140 --> 00:12:52.050
  • two dogs so.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Two dogs.
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  • - Ben Little: Taya Smith,
  • 00:12:54.110 --> 00:12:55.010
  • ladies and gentlemen.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Wow, it's like
  • 00:12:55.190 --> 00:12:56.100
  • a pet shop.
  • 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:56.290
  • - Taya: Yeah.
  • 00:12:56.290 --> 00:12:57.260
  • - Niyah: And are you loving
  • 00:12:57.260 --> 00:12:58.220
  • living in Sydney now?
  • 00:12:58.220 --> 00:12:59.190
  • It's like a huge change, right?
  • 00:12:59.190 --> 00:13:00.250
  • - Taya: Yeah, it definitely was
  • 00:13:00.250 --> 00:13:01.230
  • a huge change 'cause the country
  • 00:13:01.230 --> 00:13:03.100
  • and the city.
  • 00:13:03.100 --> 00:13:04.180
  • But it felt right.
  • 00:13:04.180 --> 00:13:06.080
  • Like as soon as--
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  • - Niyah: Did you go in your
  • 00:13:06.290 --> 00:13:07.190
  • like backyard, was it like
  • 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:08.080
  • a "Sound of Music" thing?
  • 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:09.020
  • You're a singer so did you go
  • 00:13:09.020 --> 00:13:10.060
  • back there, just start running
  • 00:13:10.060 --> 00:13:11.230
  • and spinning and singing in
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  • your backyard like the fields
  • 00:13:13.040 --> 00:13:14.110
  • are alive?
  • 00:13:14.110 --> 00:13:15.040
  • - Taya: No.
  • 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:15.210
  • - Niyah: You would do that.
  • 00:13:15.210 --> 00:13:16.090
  • Ben would do that.
  • 00:13:16.090 --> 00:13:17.110
  • Ben's a singer and you used
  • 00:13:17.110 --> 00:13:18.160
  • to do that.
  • 00:13:18.160 --> 00:13:19.150
  • - Taya: The hills, the hills
  • 00:13:19.150 --> 00:13:20.030
  • are alive?
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  • The fields are alive.
  • 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.260
  • - Ben Fielding: I live in
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  • the hills.
  • 00:13:23.140 --> 00:13:24.090
  • It's a peculiar suggestion but
  • 00:13:24.090 --> 00:13:25.130
  • you have--actually Ben and I can
  • 00:13:25.130 --> 00:13:26.180
  • relate very closely to that.
  • 00:13:26.180 --> 00:13:28.230
  • Taya, what are the biggest
  • 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:30.100
  • differences moving from
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  • Lismore to Sydney?
  • 00:13:31.180 --> 00:13:32.260
  • What did you have to change
  • 00:13:32.260 --> 00:13:34.020
  • culturally?
  • 00:13:34.020 --> 00:13:35.030
  • - Taya: Culturally?
  • 00:13:35.030 --> 00:13:36.110
  • - Niyah: Deep question, deep.
  • 00:13:36.110 --> 00:13:38.040
  • - Taya: It is a--
  • 00:13:38.040 --> 00:13:38.250
  • - Ben Fielding: Did I go
  • 00:13:38.250 --> 00:13:39.140
  • too deep?
  • 00:13:39.140 --> 00:13:40.010
  • Let's just bring it back up
  • 00:13:40.010 --> 00:13:41.060
  • a little bit.
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  • - Taya: Service level.
  • 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:43.070
  • Just kidding.
  • 00:13:43.070 --> 00:13:44.010
  • I'm all about deep.
  • 00:13:44.010 --> 00:13:45.210
  • The food is amazing.
  • 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:47.050
  • - Ben Fielding: What did you
  • 00:13:47.050 --> 00:13:47.230
  • have to change about yourself?
  • 00:13:47.230 --> 00:13:50.100
  • - Ben Little: What were you
  • 00:13:50.100 --> 00:13:50.280
  • anchored to?
  • 00:13:50.280 --> 00:13:51.150
  • - Ben Fielding: Spiritually?
  • 00:13:51.150 --> 00:13:52.070
  • - Taya: Spiritually?
  • 00:13:52.070 --> 00:13:53.080
  • I would say, I would answer it.
  • 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.280
  • - Ben Little: Now listen--
  • 00:13:55.280 --> 00:13:57.200
  • - Taya: Yeah, the food's
  • 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:58.150
  • different, I'll say that.
  • 00:13:58.150 --> 00:13:59.090
  • - Ben Little: Now, you live
  • 00:13:59.090 --> 00:13:59.260
  • in Sydney now.
  • 00:13:59.260 --> 00:14:00.160
  • - Taya: Yeah.
  • 00:14:00.160 --> 00:14:01.020
  • - Ben Little: You're
  • 00:14:01.020 --> 00:14:01.170
  • traveling a lot with United
  • 00:14:01.170 --> 00:14:02.160
  • and Hillsong Worship.
  • 00:14:02.160 --> 00:14:03.270
  • How many days out of the year
  • 00:14:03.270 --> 00:14:06.100
  • would you have been traveling
  • 00:14:06.100 --> 00:14:07.020
  • this year?
  • 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:08.180
  • - Taya: I think this is
  • 00:14:08.180 --> 00:14:09.100
  • the year that I didn't count
  • 00:14:09.100 --> 00:14:10.270
  • because it was that many but
  • 00:14:10.270 --> 00:14:12.130
  • someone said roughly like 180.
  • 00:14:14.150 --> 00:14:17.150
  • - Ben Fielding: It can't be
  • 00:14:17.150 --> 00:14:18.020
  • more than 365.
  • 00:14:18.020 --> 00:14:19.010
  • - Taya: No.
  • 00:14:19.010 --> 00:14:19.170
  • - Ben Fielding: Let's start
  • 00:14:19.170 --> 00:14:20.040
  • there.
  • 00:14:20.040 --> 00:14:20.220
  • So, about half?
  • 00:14:20.220 --> 00:14:21.250
  • - Taya: Yeah.
  • 00:14:21.250 --> 00:14:22.110
  • - Ben Fielding: So, you're
  • 00:14:22.110 --> 00:14:22.280
  • doing a lot of traveling?
  • 00:14:22.280 --> 00:14:23.160
  • - Taya: At least, I think.
  • 00:14:23.160 --> 00:14:24.060
  • - Niyah: But you get to stay
  • 00:14:24.060 --> 00:14:24.250
  • home.
  • 00:14:24.250 --> 00:14:25.130
  • You get to do amazing things
  • 00:14:25.130 --> 00:14:26.000
  • like conferences as well.
  • 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:27.190
  • And you get to be a part of
  • 00:14:27.190 --> 00:14:28.260
  • what's going on here at home
  • 00:14:28.260 --> 00:14:30.170
  • so which is awesome.
  • 00:14:30.170 --> 00:14:31.130
  • And we're actually gonna go to
  • 00:14:31.130 --> 00:14:32.140
  • a clip now of Pastor Bobbie,
  • 00:14:32.140 --> 00:14:34.240
  • our senior pastor, at
  • 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:35.290
  • Hillsong Conference this year.
  • 00:14:35.290 --> 00:14:38.180
  • So, let's take a look at that.
  • 00:14:38.180 --> 00:14:39.220
  • We'll bring our viewers in
  • 00:14:39.220 --> 00:14:41.060
  • and see some parts of
  • 00:14:41.060 --> 00:14:42.140
  • - Bobbie: "Again, I say
  • 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:47.220
  • the Spirit and the bride
  • 00:14:47.220 --> 00:14:48.200
  • say come."
  • 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.150
  • You know why that is
  • 00:14:50.150 --> 00:14:51.080
  • a revelation to me?
  • 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:53.060
  • It's not just words.
  • 00:14:53.060 --> 00:14:54.030
  • a theme.
  • 00:14:56.060 --> 00:14:56.290
  • It's a revelation to me because
  • 00:14:56.290 --> 00:14:58.230
  • a number of years ago, pretty
  • 00:14:59.070 --> 00:15:02.090
  • was back here and we went back,
  • 00:15:04.150 --> 00:15:07.150
  • I remember it was probably
  • 00:15:07.150 --> 00:15:08.200
  • possibly the last night of
  • 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.000
  • the conference.
  • 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:11.100
  • People dismissed to leave
  • 00:15:11.100 --> 00:15:12.140
  • and our team just linked in,
  • 00:15:12.140 --> 00:15:15.010
  • we lowered the lights, probably,
  • 00:15:15.010 --> 00:15:16.120
  • and we just linked into heaven.
  • 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.190
  • And out of nowhere, a spirit of
  • 00:15:18.190 --> 00:15:20.170
  • intercession hit me.
  • 00:15:20.170 --> 00:15:22.110
  • I could count on my hand how
  • 00:15:22.110 --> 00:15:23.160
  • many times I've truly
  • 00:15:23.160 --> 00:15:24.040
  • interceded.
  • 00:15:24.040 --> 00:15:25.020
  • I'm not saying I'm
  • 00:15:25.020 --> 00:15:25.170
  • an intercessor.
  • 00:15:25.170 --> 00:15:26.130
  • I'm not saying I'm any of these
  • 00:15:26.130 --> 00:15:27.080
  • things.
  • 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:27.290
  • I'm learning.
  • 00:15:27.290 --> 00:15:28.170
  • I'm a novice.
  • 00:15:28.170 --> 00:15:29.170
  • I'm a novice in the Spirit of
  • 00:15:29.170 --> 00:15:31.070
  • God but down there it's like
  • 00:15:31.070 --> 00:15:33.160
  • I bent over and all that would
  • 00:15:33.160 --> 00:15:35.210
  • pour out of my heart and my
  • 00:15:35.210 --> 00:15:37.060
  • spirit were the words,
  • 00:15:37.060 --> 00:15:39.060
  • "The Spirit and the bride
  • 00:15:39.060 --> 00:15:40.190
  • say come.
  • 00:15:40.190 --> 00:15:41.150
  • The Spirit and the bride
  • 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:42.160
  • say come.
  • 00:15:42.160 --> 00:15:43.210
  • The Spirit and the bride
  • 00:15:43.210 --> 00:15:44.260
  • say come."
  • 00:15:44.260 --> 00:15:46.110
  • You know, we look at that word,
  • 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:48.090
  • "The Spirit and the bride
  • 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:48.270
  • say come," beautiful.
  • 00:15:48.270 --> 00:15:51.020
  • Last year I stood up here and I
  • 00:15:51.020 --> 00:15:52.200
  • said I pray that we will become
  • 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.090
  • fiercely brilliant in our
  • 00:15:55.090 --> 00:15:56.270
  • ability as a church of
  • 00:15:56.270 --> 00:15:57.270
  • Jesus Christ to beckon
  • 00:15:57.270 --> 00:16:00.060
  • humanity to come.
  • 00:16:00.060 --> 00:16:01.200
  • But I pose the question,
  • 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.110
  • is that word, is it merely
  • 00:16:03.110 --> 00:16:05.080
  • an invitation?
  • 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.140
  • Is it merely an invitation?
  • 00:16:06.140 --> 00:16:08.250
  • Is it merely a declaration,
  • 00:16:08.250 --> 00:16:10.250
  • "Come, come"?
  • 00:16:10.250 --> 00:16:12.280
  • Or is it a stance?
  • 00:16:12.280 --> 00:16:14.270
  • Is it a stance that, for
  • 00:16:14.270 --> 00:16:17.030
  • the most part, has us standing
  • 00:16:17.030 --> 00:16:18.230
  • tall and strong alongside
  • 00:16:18.230 --> 00:16:20.190
  • the Spirit of God
  • 00:16:20.190 --> 00:16:21.230
  • in these latter days, the Spirit
  • 00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:22.220
  • and the bride, the Spirit
  • 00:16:22.220 --> 00:16:24.190
  • and the church?
  • 00:16:24.190 --> 00:16:25.240
  • Is it a stance that has us stand
  • 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.070
  • tall and strong, strengthened,
  • 00:16:27.070 --> 00:16:29.180
  • upright, holy before him,
  • 00:16:29.180 --> 00:16:32.050
  • hallelujah, with authority in
  • 00:16:32.050 --> 00:16:34.140
  • our voice, in our touch, in all
  • 00:16:34.140 --> 00:16:37.070
  • of these--is it that stance
  • 00:16:37.070 --> 00:16:38.200
  • indeed?
  • 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:39.210
  • But perhaps it's also a stance
  • 00:16:39.210 --> 00:16:41.140
  • that bends low with
  • 00:16:41.140 --> 00:16:43.070
  • the Spirit of God because,
  • 00:16:43.070 --> 00:16:44.290
  • does his Word just not tell us
  • 00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:47.090
  • that even Christ in heaven
  • 00:16:47.090 --> 00:16:48.190
  • right now intercedes for us
  • 00:16:48.190 --> 00:16:50.050
  • and does it not tell us that
  • 00:16:50.050 --> 00:16:51.150
  • the Spirit himself intercedes
  • 00:16:51.150 --> 00:16:54.040
  • with groanings too deep
  • 00:16:54.040 --> 00:16:55.200
  • - Ben Little: Yes, well,
  • 00:16:59.220 --> 00:17:00.150
  • welcome back to "The Countdown."
  • 00:17:00.150 --> 00:17:02.020
  • We're on "The Countdown"
  • 00:17:02.020 --> 00:17:03.050
  • and I'm down for the count.
  • 00:17:03.050 --> 00:17:04.130
  • Let's be honest.
  • 00:17:04.130 --> 00:17:05.100
  • - Ben Fielding: It never gets
  • 00:17:05.100 --> 00:17:06.040
  • tired.
  • 00:17:06.040 --> 00:17:07.020
  • - Ben Little: We are looking
  • 00:17:07.020 --> 00:17:07.220
  • back--
  • 00:17:07.220 --> 00:17:08.070
  • - Niyah: He came up with that
  • 00:17:08.070 --> 00:17:08.250
  • on his own.
  • 00:17:08.250 --> 00:17:09.230
  • - Ben Little: We're looking
  • 00:17:09.230 --> 00:17:10.110
  • back at the year that was.
  • 00:17:10.110 --> 00:17:11.200
  • We're sitting on the desk with
  • 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:12.290
  • some other people, not sure who
  • 00:17:12.290 --> 00:17:14.070
  • their names are.
  • 00:17:14.070 --> 00:17:15.060
  • But Taya Smith.
  • 00:17:15.060 --> 00:17:16.120
  • Taya, we saw a clip there from
  • 00:17:16.120 --> 00:17:18.080
  • Bobbie, phenomenal.
  • 00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:20.120
  • We love our senior pastor.
  • 00:17:20.120 --> 00:17:22.020
  • You've been to quite a few of
  • 00:17:22.020 --> 00:17:23.100
  • the conferences around
  • 00:17:23.100 --> 00:17:24.080
  • the world.
  • 00:17:24.080 --> 00:17:24.260
  • What's been your involvement?
  • 00:17:24.260 --> 00:17:26.080
  • - Taya: Yeah, I've definitely
  • 00:17:26.080 --> 00:17:28.010
  • been blessed to be able to
  • 00:17:28.010 --> 00:17:29.030
  • travel as part of
  • 00:17:29.030 --> 00:17:30.110
  • our worship team
  • 00:17:30.110 --> 00:17:31.070
  • and getting to, I guess,
  • 00:17:31.070 --> 00:17:33.020
  • take maybe the heart of,
  • 00:17:33.020 --> 00:17:35.000
  • you know, of Sydney and what's
  • 00:17:35.040 --> 00:17:38.040
  • happening here at home,
  • 00:17:38.040 --> 00:17:39.020
  • and getting to be a part of,
  • 00:17:39.020 --> 00:17:39.290
  • I guess, spreading that in
  • 00:17:41.020 --> 00:17:44.020
  • all the other conferences
  • 00:17:44.020 --> 00:17:45.000
  • all around the world.
  • 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.000
  • And hopefully, taking like
  • 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.160
  • the heart of the message as well
  • 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:48.290
  • and embodying that
  • 00:17:48.290 --> 00:17:49.220
  • in whatever that looks like,
  • 00:17:49.220 --> 00:17:50.290
  • whether that's being
  • 00:17:50.290 --> 00:17:51.240
  • on platform or just even loving
  • 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.250
  • on the other worship teams just
  • 00:17:53.250 --> 00:17:55.040
  • from like New York and L.A.
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  • and in London.
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  • And it's been amazing and I feel
  • 00:17:58.020 --> 00:17:59.200
  • like I'm definitely always blown
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  • away at how profound Bobbie is
  • 00:18:02.140 --> 00:18:04.080
  • and the message that--it even
  • 00:18:04.080 --> 00:18:07.060
  • just like transcends just
  • 00:18:07.060 --> 00:18:08.130
  • being in one location, but it's
  • 00:18:08.130 --> 00:18:09.190
  • actually for everyone in how
  • 00:18:09.190 --> 00:18:10.220
  • inclusive it is.
  • 00:18:10.220 --> 00:18:11.200
  • And every time like she's so
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  • prophetic that I don't know like
  • 00:18:14.020 --> 00:18:16.110
  • there's just a little thing
  • 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:17.230
  • that's just a little bit
  • 00:18:17.230 --> 00:18:18.130
  • different in every room.
  • 00:18:18.130 --> 00:18:19.130
  • And I feel like when we go to
  • 00:18:19.130 --> 00:18:21.040
  • take the Colour message for the
  • 00:18:21.040 --> 00:18:22.060
  • first time to the--America, it
  • 00:18:22.060 --> 00:18:24.210
  • was amazing because it felt like
  • 00:18:24.210 --> 00:18:27.130
  • the little thing that was needed
  • 00:18:27.130 --> 00:18:28.230
  • over there to set maybe some
  • 00:18:28.230 --> 00:18:30.240
  • women free, it may be how their
  • 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.160
  • views about women in ministry,
  • 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.200
  • or maybe it was their views
  • 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:36.130
  • about their position as women
  • 00:18:36.130 --> 00:18:38.110
  • in the church.
  • 00:18:38.110 --> 00:18:39.060
  • Like, I felt like that was
  • 00:18:39.060 --> 00:18:40.100
  • something special to be a part
  • 00:18:40.100 --> 00:18:41.040
  • of and see over there that maybe
  • 00:18:41.040 --> 00:18:42.150
  • hadn't been unleashed yet, that
  • 00:18:42.150 --> 00:18:43.200
  • maybe has been unleashed here
  • 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.060
  • in Sydney since
  • 00:18:45.060 --> 00:18:46.000
  • the Sisterhood message.
  • 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:47.020
  • So, it was a really special
  • 00:18:47.020 --> 00:18:48.070
  • thing and I do love Bobbie.
  • 00:18:48.070 --> 00:18:50.010
  • - Ben Little: Now, you've got
  • 00:18:50.010 --> 00:18:50.290
  • a lot to do with, obviously,
  • 00:18:50.290 --> 00:18:52.130
  • with the worship, with traveling
  • 00:18:52.130 --> 00:18:54.020
  • with the team during
  • 00:18:54.020 --> 00:18:54.290
  • the conferences.
  • 00:18:54.290 --> 00:18:56.020
  • Now, there was
  • 00:18:56.020 --> 00:18:56.170
  • the Hillsong movie this year
  • 00:18:56.170 --> 00:18:57.280
  • that you had a lot to do with.
  • 00:18:57.280 --> 00:18:59.170
  • Tell us a bit about that.
  • 00:18:59.170 --> 00:19:00.090
  • - Taya: Yes.
  • 00:19:00.090 --> 00:19:00.280
  • It was definitely new roads,
  • 00:19:00.280 --> 00:19:03.140
  • new rivers, as Pastor Brian said
  • 00:19:03.140 --> 00:19:04.230
  • at the start of the year.
  • 00:19:04.230 --> 00:19:06.020
  • And it's just one that I think a
  • 00:19:06.020 --> 00:19:08.100
  • couple of us were talking about
  • 00:19:08.100 --> 00:19:09.100
  • it like we were saying, I don't
  • 00:19:09.100 --> 00:19:11.120
  • know if we ever actually like
  • 00:19:11.120 --> 00:19:12.070
  • put our hand up to say, "Yeah,
  • 00:19:12.070 --> 00:19:13.190
  • let's be in the film," you know?
  • 00:19:13.190 --> 00:19:14.210
  • But it happened and I think
  • 00:19:14.210 --> 00:19:16.090
  • halfway through like--'cause it
  • 00:19:16.090 --> 00:19:18.010
  • was a long process.
  • 00:19:18.010 --> 00:19:19.170
  • It was like 2 years and I think
  • 00:19:19.170 --> 00:19:20.190
  • it was 2 years like between
  • 00:19:20.190 --> 00:19:22.090
  • getting like the movie,
  • 00:19:22.090 --> 00:19:23.190
  • you know, filmed and then
  • 00:19:23.190 --> 00:19:24.240
  • distributed and then like it
  • 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.050
  • went under and then like it
  • 00:19:26.050 --> 00:19:27.110
  • came back out.
  • 00:19:27.110 --> 00:19:28.080
  • And then like we had someone
  • 00:19:28.080 --> 00:19:29.180
  • else put their hand on it--
  • 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:31.120
  • - Ben Fielding: There must be
  • 00:19:31.120 --> 00:19:32.070
  • a movie made about the movie.
  • 00:19:32.070 --> 00:19:34.280
  • - Taya: Rising from the--yeah.
  • 00:19:34.280 --> 00:19:36.100
  • Yeah, so it was like it was
  • 00:19:36.100 --> 00:19:38.050
  • a crazy experience but I think
  • 00:19:38.080 --> 00:19:41.080
  • halfway through it like when we
  • 00:19:41.080 --> 00:19:42.150
  • were over in L.A.
  • 00:19:42.150 --> 00:19:43.290
  • and it was just about to be
  • 00:19:43.290 --> 00:19:44.280
  • released, that was a moment
  • 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:45.240
  • where I was like, oh my gosh,
  • 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:47.050
  • like, this is actually
  • 00:19:47.050 --> 00:19:47.230
  • happening.
  • 00:19:47.230 --> 00:19:48.080
  • I have no idea how it's gonna
  • 00:19:48.080 --> 00:19:48.270
  • pan out.
  • 00:19:48.270 --> 00:19:49.240
  • I don't even know if it's gonna
  • 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:50.150
  • make it to Australia.
  • 00:19:50.150 --> 00:19:51.110
  • I don't know how long it's gonna
  • 00:19:51.110 --> 00:19:52.250
  • stay like, you know, in
  • 00:19:52.250 --> 00:19:54.000
  • the cinemas in the states.
  • 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.040
  • But I was just like if this is
  • 00:19:55.040 --> 00:19:56.170
  • the way God wants to reach
  • 00:19:56.170 --> 00:19:57.210
  • people, then who am I to say no?
  • 00:19:57.210 --> 00:20:00.070
  • And I put my hand up like
  • 00:20:00.070 --> 00:20:01.130
  • a long time ago and said,
  • 00:20:01.130 --> 00:20:02.130
  • "Yes, Jesus, like choose me.
  • 00:20:02.130 --> 00:20:04.000
  • Like I'm all in.
  • 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:04.200
  • I wanna--"
  • 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:05.060
  • And if that's what it looks
  • 00:20:05.060 --> 00:20:05.250
  • like, then so be it.
  • 00:20:05.250 --> 00:20:07.110
  • - Niyah: That's what I'm
  • 00:20:07.110 --> 00:20:08.040
  • talking about.
  • 00:20:08.040 --> 00:20:08.190
  • Now, I have a question.
  • 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:09.050
  • I have to ask this question.
  • 00:20:09.050 --> 00:20:09.220
  • I've been waiting to ask this
  • 00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:10.200
  • question.
  • 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:11.140
  • So now, you do so much singing
  • 00:20:11.140 --> 00:20:13.120
  • and you're a powerhouse when you
  • 00:20:13.120 --> 00:20:15.150
  • sing and you travel so much.
  • 00:20:15.150 --> 00:20:18.090
  • What happens if you ever--do you
  • 00:20:18.090 --> 00:20:19.140
  • ever lose your voice like,
  • 00:20:19.140 --> 00:20:20.110
  • "Oh my goodness, I sound
  • 00:20:20.110 --> 00:20:21.100
  • a little bit raspy today"?
  • 00:20:21.100 --> 00:20:22.180
  • Because sometimes they sound
  • 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:23.210
  • a little high off pitch so I
  • 00:20:23.210 --> 00:20:25.190
  • gotta--we gotta rush tea into
  • 00:20:25.190 --> 00:20:27.000
  • them, especially Ben Little
  • 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:28.030
  • right over here.
  • 00:20:28.030 --> 00:20:28.270
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, lemon tea
  • 00:20:28.270 --> 00:20:29.150
  • with ginger.
  • 00:20:29.150 --> 00:20:30.030
  • - Niyah: He's very--you know
  • 00:20:30.030 --> 00:20:31.140
  • what I'm saying?
  • 00:20:31.140 --> 00:20:32.020
  • I need--he needs it right
  • 00:20:32.020 --> 00:20:32.290
  • temperature, everything like
  • 00:20:32.290 --> 00:20:34.030
  • that.
  • 00:20:34.030 --> 00:20:34.190
  • So, are you ever like, "Oh,
  • 00:20:34.190 --> 00:20:35.280
  • my goodness, I think I lost
  • 00:20:35.280 --> 00:20:36.290
  • my voice"?
  • 00:20:36.290 --> 00:20:37.280
  • - Ben Fielding: Would you--I
  • 00:20:37.280 --> 00:20:38.160
  • mean, I don't know if this is
  • 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:39.050
  • appropriate to do in this
  • 00:20:39.050 --> 00:20:40.150
  • context but maybe give Ben and I
  • 00:20:40.150 --> 00:20:42.020
  • just a couple of little vocal
  • 00:20:42.020 --> 00:20:43.050
  • warmup type--
  • 00:20:43.050 --> 00:20:44.010
  • - Taya: Little tips?
  • 00:20:44.010 --> 00:20:44.220
  • Yeah, hundred percent.
  • 00:20:44.220 --> 00:20:45.140
  • - Ben Fielding: What do we do?
  • 00:20:45.140 --> 00:20:46.030
  • - Taya: So, the bubbles first.
  • 00:20:46.030 --> 00:20:46.220
  • - Ben Fielding: Okay, what do
  • 00:20:46.220 --> 00:20:47.140
  • you mean by bubbles?
  • 00:20:47.140 --> 00:20:48.100
  • - Taya: So, fingers on
  • 00:20:48.100 --> 00:20:49.270
  • the cheeks...
  • 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:51.110
  • - Ben Fielding: If you're at
  • 00:20:51.110 --> 00:20:52.000
  • home right now and you need to
  • 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.190
  • warm up.
  • 00:20:53.190 --> 00:20:55.100
  • - Taya: Fingers on the cheeks
  • 00:20:55.100 --> 00:20:56.280
  • and then put your lips forward,
  • 00:20:56.280 --> 00:20:58.200
  • and then blow...
  • 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:00.030
  • [humming sound]
  • 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:03.050
  • But for the very like--for
  • 00:21:03.050 --> 00:21:05.100
  • the very advanced, I just found
  • 00:21:05.100 --> 00:21:06.200
  • this one out 'cause I'm
  • 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:07.160
  • getting lessons and trying
  • 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:08.220
  • to get better.
  • 00:21:08.220 --> 00:21:09.180
  • And so what you're meant to do
  • 00:21:09.180 --> 00:21:10.160
  • is you're not even meant to like
  • 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:11.130
  • put your lips out.
  • 00:21:11.130 --> 00:21:12.240
  • You're meant to actually just
  • 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:13.160
  • trill it with your tongue.
  • 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:14.170
  • You go...
  • 00:21:14.170 --> 00:21:15.030
  • [rolling tongue]
  • 00:21:15.030 --> 00:21:17.240
  • - Ben Fielding: Right, that's
  • 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:18.120
  • very advanced.
  • 00:21:18.120 --> 00:21:19.060
  • I'm not--
  • 00:21:19.060 --> 00:21:20.140
  • - Taya: Probably maybe like
  • 00:21:20.140 --> 00:21:21.060
  • second third time.
  • 00:21:21.060 --> 00:21:22.060
  • - Niyah: Ben, you're spitting
  • 00:21:22.060 --> 00:21:22.240
  • a lot when you're doing that.
  • 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:23.220
  • Are you meant to spit as much as
  • 00:21:23.220 --> 00:21:24.220
  • he's doing?
  • 00:21:24.220 --> 00:21:26.100
  • - Ben Little: It's actually
  • 00:21:26.100 --> 00:21:26.290
  • not that hard.
  • 00:21:26.290 --> 00:21:27.250
  • - Ben Fielding: So, basically
  • 00:21:27.250 --> 00:21:28.130
  • what you're saying, that big
  • 00:21:28.130 --> 00:21:29.270
  • note in "Oceans," you know that
  • 00:21:29.270 --> 00:21:31.100
  • high note, if Ben keeps doing
  • 00:21:31.100 --> 00:21:32.220
  • this every day for how many
  • 00:21:32.220 --> 00:21:34.210
  • months before he's gonna be able
  • 00:21:34.210 --> 00:21:35.230
  • to knock that one out?
  • 00:21:35.230 --> 00:21:36.220
  • - Ben Little: I'll be there,
  • 00:21:36.220 --> 00:21:37.200
  • "Where My Feet Can't Fail"
  • 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:38.140
  • before I know it.
  • 00:21:38.140 --> 00:21:39.140
  • - Taya: I believe it.
  • 00:21:39.140 --> 00:21:40.160
  • Hey, nothing's impossible.
  • 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:41.210
  • Nothing's impossible.
  • 00:21:41.210 --> 00:21:43.020
  • This was the most random free
  • 00:21:43.020 --> 00:21:44.110
  • worship moment, I will say that,
  • 00:21:44.110 --> 00:21:45.210
  • when we first did it in
  • 00:21:45.210 --> 00:21:46.170
  • South Africa.
  • 00:21:46.170 --> 00:21:47.130
  • It just--when it came out,
  • 00:21:47.130 --> 00:21:48.220
  • I think I was probably more
  • 00:21:48.220 --> 00:21:49.240
  • shocked than anybody.
  • 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:50.240
  • - Ben Little: Awesome.
  • 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:51.110
  • - Taya: Yeah.
  • 00:21:51.110 --> 00:21:51.280
  • - Ben Fielding: You're talking
  • 00:21:51.280 --> 00:21:52.170
  • about in "Oceans,"
  • 00:21:52.170 --> 00:21:53.020
  • in the instrumental?
  • 00:21:53.020 --> 00:21:54.210
  • - Taya: Yeah, the first time we
  • 00:21:54.210 --> 00:21:55.290
  • did it, it was the second night
  • 00:21:55.290 --> 00:21:57.030
  • in Johannesburg.
  • 00:21:57.030 --> 00:21:58.190
  • It was my first time ever being
  • 00:21:58.190 --> 00:21:59.260
  • on tour and so I was nervous
  • 00:21:59.260 --> 00:22:01.230
  • anyway 'cause I was like trying
  • 00:22:01.230 --> 00:22:02.200
  • to remember all the girl songs.
  • 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:03.240
  • And I was like, I don't even
  • 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:04.200
  • know "Bones."
  • 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:05.160
  • But I still don't know it but I
  • 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.160
  • will learn it though.
  • 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.030
  • - Ben Little: Learn it,
  • 00:22:09.030 --> 00:22:09.220
  • thank you.
  • 00:22:09.220 --> 00:22:10.160
  • - Ben Fielding: Now, Taya,
  • 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:11.040
  • you're gonna stay with us.
  • 00:22:11.040 --> 00:22:11.260
  • And we are just gonna cut to
  • 00:22:11.260 --> 00:22:13.270
  • a segment from
  • 00:22:13.270 --> 00:22:15.060
  • "The Hillsong Kids Big Life."
  • 00:22:15.060 --> 00:22:17.060
  • Funny man Dan, Dave Wakerley,
  • 00:22:17.060 --> 00:22:19.180
  • my favorite show.
  • 00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:20.220
  • I love it.
  • 00:22:20.220 --> 00:22:21.250
  • - Ben Little: Carly,
  • 00:22:21.250 --> 00:22:22.110
  • call the kids.
  • 00:22:22.110 --> 00:22:23.000
  • - Ben Fielding: Then a short
  • 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:23.250
  • break, but then we'll be
  • 00:22:23.250 --> 00:22:24.210
  • right back with Taya Smith
  • 00:22:24.210 --> 00:22:25.200
  • and "The Countdown."
  • 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:26.290
  • - male: I had a crazy
  • 00:22:32.110 --> 00:22:33.010
  • dream last night.
  • 00:22:33.010 --> 00:22:34.200
  • Okay, when I was
  • 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.190
  • stuck in ice, it was
  • 00:22:37.190 --> 00:22:39.270
  • floating so I was
  • 00:22:39.270 --> 00:22:41.170
  • like this...
  • 00:22:41.170 --> 00:22:43.140
  • and I was free
  • 00:22:43.140 --> 00:22:44.180
  • then I was like, "Whee!"
  • 00:22:45.050 --> 00:22:48.050
  • - male: Oh, like I made
  • 00:22:48.050 --> 00:22:49.070
  • up my own name
  • 00:22:49.070 --> 00:22:50.130
  • called Setty girl.
  • 00:22:50.130 --> 00:22:51.290
  • - male: The superhero
  • 00:22:51.290 --> 00:22:53.140
  • came.
  • 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:54.030
  • Then I was like, wow.
  • 00:22:54.030 --> 00:22:56.100
  • Then superhero was
  • 00:22:56.100 --> 00:22:58.100
  • fighting the bad guy
  • 00:22:58.100 --> 00:23:00.160
  • and he become
  • 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.190
  • the good guy.
  • 00:23:01.190 --> 00:23:03.010
  • So, he went back
  • 00:23:03.010 --> 00:23:04.070
  • to his planet
  • 00:23:04.070 --> 00:23:05.190
  • and saved the day.
  • 00:23:05.190 --> 00:23:07.170
  • - both: That was
  • 00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:08.090
  • a crazy dream.
  • 00:23:08.090 --> 00:23:10.040
  • [giggling]
  • 00:23:10.040 --> 00:23:11.270
  • - male: We said it together.
  • 00:23:11.270 --> 00:23:13.000
  • - Ben Fielding: Well, thanks
  • 00:23:21.290 --> 00:23:22.190
  • for staying with us here on
  • 00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:23.150
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:24.050
  • We are back right now.
  • 00:23:24.050 --> 00:23:25.150
  • Taya Smith is still on
  • 00:23:25.150 --> 00:23:26.200
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:27.230
  • We got plenty more in store
  • 00:23:27.230 --> 00:23:29.010
  • for this episode.
  • 00:23:29.010 --> 00:23:30.170
  • Guys, what have we got
  • 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:31.230
  • coming up?
  • 00:23:31.230 --> 00:23:32.170
  • - Ben Little: So much.
  • 00:23:32.170 --> 00:23:33.140
  • - Niyah: We got,
  • 00:23:33.140 --> 00:23:34.000
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships."
  • 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.070
  • Now, I know that's sounding
  • 00:23:35.070 --> 00:23:36.070
  • a little racy, but it's a--
  • 00:23:36.070 --> 00:23:38.080
  • - Ben Fielding: Not at all.
  • 00:23:38.080 --> 00:23:39.110
  • - Niyah: It's a new show--not
  • 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:40.200
  • at all, not at all.
  • 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:41.250
  • It's a new show that's airing
  • 00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:42.290
  • right here on
  • 00:23:42.290 --> 00:23:43.250
  • the Hillsong Channel.
  • 00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:44.160
  • Season one, I think is going on
  • 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.190
  • right now.
  • 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:46.200
  • Season two comes out just in
  • 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.210
  • a couple weeks--
  • 00:23:48.210 --> 00:23:49.100
  • - Ben Fielding: With
  • 00:23:49.100 --> 00:23:49.290
  • an incredible new host.
  • 00:23:49.290 --> 00:23:50.170
  • - Niyah: With an incredible
  • 00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:51.150
  • new host, me.
  • 00:23:51.150 --> 00:23:53.130
  • - Ben Fielding: It is Niyah.
  • 00:23:53.130 --> 00:23:54.110
  • - Niyah: But that's me and
  • 00:23:54.110 --> 00:23:55.100
  • actually John and Helen Burns.
  • 00:23:55.100 --> 00:23:57.000
  • They're amazing, incredible
  • 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.080
  • pastors out of
  • 00:23:58.080 --> 00:23:59.000
  • Vancouver, Canada,
  • 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.060
  • and they're kind of the experts.
  • 00:24:00.060 --> 00:24:01.110
  • I'm not an expert but they're
  • 00:24:01.110 --> 00:24:02.200
  • the experts.
  • 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:03.230
  • - Ben Little: Niyah,
  • 00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:04.240
  • you are good.
  • 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:06.000
  • - Niyah: You know, I can't
  • 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:07.060
  • tell--I can't say much.
  • 00:24:07.060 --> 00:24:08.170
  • But let's go the--let's take
  • 00:24:08.170 --> 00:24:09.230
  • a sneak peek.
  • 00:24:09.230 --> 00:24:10.250
  • I wanna--I want you guys
  • 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:12.030
  • to see what
  • 00:24:12.030 --> 00:24:13.080
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships,"
  • 00:24:13.080 --> 00:24:14.120
  • that show is all about.
  • 00:24:14.120 --> 00:24:15.210
  • - Danielle Jeyaratnam: Now,
  • 00:24:18.130 --> 00:24:19.000
  • it's time to catch up with
  • 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:19.250
  • Andreas and Lina as they
  • 00:24:19.250 --> 00:24:21.040
  • take a few more questions
  • 00:24:21.040 --> 00:24:22.040
  • - Andreas Nielsen: Hey, we're
  • 00:24:26.260 --> 00:24:27.140
  • back here and we're talking to
  • 00:24:27.140 --> 00:24:28.100
  • people about how they deal with
  • 00:24:28.100 --> 00:24:29.070
  • their relationship and ask
  • 00:24:29.070 --> 00:24:32.050
  • the public how they deal with it
  • 00:24:32.050 --> 00:24:34.100
  • in public?
  • 00:24:34.100 --> 00:24:34.260
  • So, I got a question for you.
  • 00:24:34.260 --> 00:24:36.000
  • Do you think it's okay to kiss
  • 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.060
  • your boyfriend publicly?
  • 00:24:37.060 --> 00:24:39.200
  • - female: I think there's
  • 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.060
  • a time and place for everything.
  • 00:24:40.060 --> 00:24:41.140
  • So, I guess in public if you're
  • 00:24:42.060 --> 00:24:45.060
  • around a lot of people,
  • 00:24:45.060 --> 00:24:46.140
  • you can make other people
  • 00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:47.100
  • kind of awkward.
  • 00:24:47.100 --> 00:24:48.100
  • So, there is a time and place
  • 00:24:48.100 --> 00:24:50.260
  • for everything.
  • 00:24:50.260 --> 00:24:52.220
  • - female: Yeah, I think
  • 00:24:52.220 --> 00:24:54.030
  • it's all right.
  • 00:24:54.030 --> 00:24:54.250
  • I guess it depends on your own
  • 00:24:54.250 --> 00:24:57.220
  • relationship you have.
  • 00:24:57.220 --> 00:24:58.260
  • But I would say too much PDA for
  • 00:24:58.260 --> 00:25:01.050
  • me makes me personally
  • 00:25:01.050 --> 00:25:02.160
  • uncomfortable, but I don't see
  • 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.220
  • a problem with kissing out
  • 00:25:04.220 --> 00:25:06.260
  • in public.
  • 00:25:06.260 --> 00:25:08.100
  • - male: A hundred percent.
  • 00:25:08.100 --> 00:25:09.120
  • Yeah.
  • 00:25:09.120 --> 00:25:10.140
  • If you ain't doing it, you ain't
  • 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:11.030
  • showing that you're in love.
  • 00:25:11.060 --> 00:25:14.060
  • - female: Yes and no,
  • 00:25:14.060 --> 00:25:16.160
  • it depends.
  • 00:25:17.030 --> 00:25:20.030
  • - male: No.
  • 00:25:20.030 --> 00:25:21.270
  • - female: I guess yes.
  • 00:25:21.270 --> 00:25:23.180
  • - male: Okay, it depends if
  • 00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:26.020
  • it's too intense make out,
  • 00:25:26.020 --> 00:25:28.060
  • you should go get a room for you
  • 00:25:28.060 --> 00:25:29.080
  • guys.
  • 00:25:29.080 --> 00:25:30.020
  • So, but if it's like a little,
  • 00:25:30.020 --> 00:25:32.000
  • just like ownership type make
  • 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.290
  • out like, "she's mine and I'm
  • 00:25:33.290 --> 00:25:35.120
  • hers," then okay go right ahead
  • 00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:37.120
  • if you want.
  • 00:25:37.120 --> 00:25:40.020
  • - female: I think a peck
  • 00:25:40.020 --> 00:25:40.190
  • is fine, yeah.
  • 00:25:40.190 --> 00:25:42.050
  • - Andreas: A peck is fine?
  • 00:25:42.050 --> 00:25:43.080
  • - female: yeah.
  • 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:43.270
  • - Andreas: Nothing more?
  • 00:25:43.270 --> 00:25:45.000
  • - female: Probably not.
  • 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:45.150
  • Just holding hands, yeah.
  • 00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:49.150
  • - male: Not when there's people
  • 00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:51.020
  • around, no.
  • 00:25:51.020 --> 00:25:52.140
  • It depends on the area.
  • 00:25:52.140 --> 00:25:54.130
  • If it's on the cheek, it's fine,
  • 00:25:54.130 --> 00:25:55.160
  • but on the lips, no.
  • 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:57.010
  • - Andreas: No lips?
  • 00:25:57.010 --> 00:25:58.000
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:58.160
  • - Andreas: Okay, we got it.
  • 00:25:58.160 --> 00:25:59.060
  • - Chrishan Jeyaratnam: Wow,
  • 00:26:02.230 --> 00:26:03.100
  • public displays of affection.
  • 00:26:03.100 --> 00:26:04.190
  • How far is too far?
  • 00:26:04.190 --> 00:26:06.220
  • - John Burns: I think,
  • 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:07.210
  • you know, Helen's answer
  • 00:26:07.210 --> 00:26:08.140
  • usually is when--you know, with
  • 00:26:08.140 --> 00:26:10.280
  • our girls, whatever you're
  • 00:26:10.280 --> 00:26:11.260
  • comfortable with in the foyer
  • 00:26:11.260 --> 00:26:13.240
  • of our church on a busy
  • 00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:14.240
  • Sunday morning, go ahead.
  • 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.230
  • 'Cause really, if you think
  • 00:26:16.230 --> 00:26:18.050
  • about it, if they're not
  • 00:26:18.050 --> 00:26:19.180
  • comfortable, that means they're
  • 00:26:19.180 --> 00:26:22.070
  • hiding something.
  • 00:26:22.070 --> 00:26:23.120
  • That means it's not what
  • 00:26:23.120 --> 00:26:25.230
  • it's supposed to be,
  • 00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:26.260
  • so I kind of think, you know,
  • 00:26:26.260 --> 00:26:28.100
  • some of them had it right.
  • 00:26:28.100 --> 00:26:29.220
  • I think the peck on the cheek
  • 00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:30.280
  • is fine.
  • 00:26:30.280 --> 00:26:32.030
  • I think that anything that just
  • 00:26:32.030 --> 00:26:34.020
  • displays something that needs
  • 00:26:34.020 --> 00:26:35.290
  • to be private, no.
  • 00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:39.180
  • - Helen Burns: What was
  • 00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:40.040
  • interesting to me is how big
  • 00:26:40.040 --> 00:26:41.110
  • the gamut was.
  • 00:26:41.110 --> 00:26:42.080
  • Everybody had kind of
  • 00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:43.280
  • a different perspective.
  • 00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:45.160
  • I do agree.
  • 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:46.220
  • Somebody said something,
  • 00:26:46.220 --> 00:26:47.150
  • sometimes our PDAs make somebody
  • 00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:50.090
  • else uncomfortable.
  • 00:26:50.090 --> 00:26:51.220
  • And I watch people sometimes
  • 00:26:51.220 --> 00:26:53.100
  • like, is that necessary?
  • 00:26:53.100 --> 00:26:55.030
  • And I often think when people
  • 00:26:55.030 --> 00:26:56.130
  • are too intense,
  • 00:26:56.130 --> 00:26:57.210
  • it's 'cause they're
  • 00:26:57.210 --> 00:26:58.290
  • not secure in their relationship
  • 00:26:58.290 --> 00:27:00.190
  • and they're having to prove,
  • 00:27:00.190 --> 00:27:02.060
  • "You're mine, you're mine."
  • 00:27:02.060 --> 00:27:04.020
  • Yeah, I like a peck on
  • 00:27:04.020 --> 00:27:05.100
  • the cheek.
  • 00:27:05.100 --> 00:27:06.000
  • Go ahead and kiss.
  • 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:06.280
  • Kiss on the lips but, you know,
  • 00:27:06.280 --> 00:27:09.000
  • no more than that.
  • 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:10.090
  • - Niyah: We're back on
  • 00:27:14.130 --> 00:27:15.030
  • "The Countdown" and we just saw
  • 00:27:15.030 --> 00:27:16.170
  • a clip from
  • 00:27:16.170 --> 00:27:17.150
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships,"
  • 00:27:17.150 --> 00:27:18.280
  • one of the hot new shows
  • 00:27:18.280 --> 00:27:20.150
  • here on Hillsong Channel.
  • 00:27:20.150 --> 00:27:22.200
  • That was season one.
  • 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.020
  • Season two is coming up
  • 00:27:24.020 --> 00:27:24.230
  • in just a couple weeks time.
  • 00:27:24.230 --> 00:27:26.110
  • Now, they were talking
  • 00:27:26.110 --> 00:27:27.140
  • about PDAs.
  • 00:27:27.140 --> 00:27:28.190
  • - Ben Fielding: Yeah,
  • 00:27:28.190 --> 00:27:29.070
  • public display of affection
  • 00:27:29.070 --> 00:27:30.200
  • if you just tuned in.
  • 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.090
  • - Niyah: If you just tuned in.
  • 00:27:32.090 --> 00:27:33.240
  • And they were asking, is it okay
  • 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.130
  • to engage in PDAs, you know,
  • 00:27:35.180 --> 00:27:38.180
  • of course, in public with your--
  • 00:27:38.180 --> 00:27:40.040
  • - Ben Fielding: Public displays
  • 00:27:40.040 --> 00:27:40.230
  • of affection.
  • 00:27:40.230 --> 00:27:41.180
  • - Niyah: Public yeah, I would
  • 00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:42.290
  • assume so.
  • 00:27:42.290 --> 00:27:44.040
  • But that's the question we wanna
  • 00:27:44.040 --> 00:27:45.110
  • your view.
  • 00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:48.210
  • Is it okay, you're with the boo
  • 00:27:48.210 --> 00:27:50.270
  • or you're with your husband,
  • 00:27:50.270 --> 00:27:52.200
  • your wife, is it okay?
  • 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.040
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, you're
  • 00:27:54.040 --> 00:27:55.080
  • have you.
  • 00:27:57.260 --> 00:27:59.160
  • - Niyah: And now, is it okay?
  • 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.290
  • - Ben Fielding: Let's provide
  • 00:28:00.290 --> 00:28:01.170
  • some more context.
  • 00:28:01.170 --> 00:28:02.030
  • You're in Lismore.
  • 00:28:02.030 --> 00:28:04.290
  • - Niyah: That's the town she's
  • 00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:06.140
  • from, the country town
  • 00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:07.170
  • she's from.
  • 00:28:07.170 --> 00:28:08.120
  • - Taya: The ghetto country,
  • 00:28:08.120 --> 00:28:08.290
  • we got this, we got this.
  • 00:28:08.290 --> 00:28:09.190
  • - Ben Fielding: Okay, let's go.
  • 00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:10.100
  • What's permissible?
  • 00:28:10.100 --> 00:28:11.150
  • - Taya: What's permissible?
  • 00:28:11.150 --> 00:28:13.170
  • Holding hands for sure.
  • 00:28:13.170 --> 00:28:15.030
  • - Ben Fielding: Holding hands,
  • 00:28:15.030 --> 00:28:15.220
  • in.
  • 00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:16.090
  • - Taya: Yeah, sneaky
  • 00:28:16.090 --> 00:28:17.010
  • little peck.
  • 00:28:17.010 --> 00:28:17.220
  • - Ben Fielding: Sneaky little
  • 00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:18.150
  • peck, in.
  • 00:28:18.150 --> 00:28:19.120
  • - Niyah: A little peck,
  • 00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:19.290
  • ladies and gentlemen.
  • 00:28:19.290 --> 00:28:21.020
  • - Taya: The thing is my parents
  • 00:28:21.020 --> 00:28:21.210
  • live in Lismore so like you just
  • 00:28:21.210 --> 00:28:23.090
  • have to be aware of that.
  • 00:28:23.090 --> 00:28:24.000
  • - Ben Little: Did you grow up
  • 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:24.190
  • watching your parents sneak
  • 00:28:24.190 --> 00:28:25.290
  • little peeks--pecks?
  • 00:28:25.290 --> 00:28:27.270
  • [all laughing]
  • 00:28:28.070 --> 00:28:31.070
  • - Niyah: Little peeks, huh?
  • 00:28:31.070 --> 00:28:32.120
  • - Taya: Not sure about
  • 00:28:32.120 --> 00:28:32.280
  • the peeks.
  • 00:28:32.280 --> 00:28:33.280
  • - Ben Fielding: So, but when
  • 00:28:33.280 --> 00:28:36.160
  • you moved to the big town,
  • 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:37.190
  • did you feel like your
  • 00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:38.110
  • tolerance for PDAs,
  • 00:28:38.110 --> 00:28:40.240
  • public displays of affection,
  • 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.000
  • increased?
  • 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.060
  • Was there an adjustment?
  • 00:28:43.060 --> 00:28:44.070
  • - Taya: I mean, yeah.
  • 00:28:44.070 --> 00:28:46.030
  • I think within reason like
  • 00:28:46.030 --> 00:28:47.050
  • there's, obviously, like
  • 00:28:47.050 --> 00:28:48.030
  • different levels where you're
  • 00:28:48.030 --> 00:28:49.050
  • like, oh, this is too much.
  • 00:28:49.050 --> 00:28:50.010
  • - Ben Fielding: A bit
  • 00:28:50.010 --> 00:28:50.160
  • uncomfortable.
  • 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:51.010
  • - Taya: Yeah, or as like,
  • 00:28:51.010 --> 00:28:51.170
  • "Is there your brother?"
  • 00:28:51.170 --> 00:28:52.040
  • As in like maybe they don't hold
  • 00:28:52.040 --> 00:28:54.120
  • hands.
  • 00:28:54.120 --> 00:28:56.120
  • - Ben Fielding: Have you ever
  • 00:28:56.120 --> 00:28:57.000
  • asked somebody to tone it down
  • 00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:57.220
  • a little bit?
  • 00:28:57.220 --> 00:28:58.140
  • Just a tap on a shoulder.
  • 00:28:58.140 --> 00:28:59.270
  • - Niyah: He's going there,
  • 00:28:59.270 --> 00:29:00.160
  • ladies and gentlemen.
  • 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:01.100
  • - Taya: I don't think I've
  • 00:29:01.100 --> 00:29:02.130
  • personally asked that, no.
  • 00:29:02.130 --> 00:29:04.060
  • Yeah.
  • 00:29:04.060 --> 00:29:05.020
  • - Ben Little: Okay, well,
  • 00:29:05.020 --> 00:29:06.080
  • stay with us.
  • 00:29:06.080 --> 00:29:07.140
  • We are gonna be right back.
  • 00:29:07.140 --> 00:29:09.000
  • Say goodbye to Taya Smith.
  • 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:10.140
  • She's been absolutely
  • 00:29:10.140 --> 00:29:11.090
  • phenomenal.
  • 00:29:11.090 --> 00:29:12.130
  • Coming up next after the break,
  • 00:29:12.130 --> 00:29:14.070
  • we have Jonathan JD Douglass
  • 00:29:14.070 --> 00:29:16.240
  • from United in the house
  • 00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.010
  • Wash me in your love
  • 00:29:54.170 --> 00:29:57.170
  • Come like grace again
  • 00:30:01.090 --> 00:30:04.090
  • Even when my strength
  • 00:30:04.090 --> 00:30:06.240
  • is lost
  • 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.120
  • I'll praise you
  • 00:30:09.010 --> 00:30:12.010
  • Even when I have no song
  • 00:30:12.220 --> 00:30:15.220
  • I'll praise you
  • 00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:19.180
  • Even when it's hard
  • 00:30:19.180 --> 00:30:21.200
  • to find the words
  • 00:30:22.070 --> 00:30:25.070
  • louder then I'll sing
  • 00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:28.140
  • your praise
  • 00:30:30.120 --> 00:30:33.120
  • Take this mountain weight
  • 00:30:55.020 --> 00:30:58.020
  • Hold me through the trial
  • 00:31:10.010 --> 00:31:13.010
  • Come like hope again
  • 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.000
  • Even when the fight
  • 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.000
  • seems lost
  • 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.230
  • I'll praise you
  • 00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:27.170
  • Even when it hurts like hell
  • 00:31:28.130 --> 00:31:31.130
  • I'll praise you
  • 00:31:32.040 --> 00:31:35.040
  • Even when it makes
  • 00:31:35.040 --> 00:31:37.020
  • no sense to sing
  • 00:31:37.260 --> 00:31:40.260
  • louder then I'll sing
  • 00:31:40.270 --> 00:31:43.270
  • your praise
  • 00:31:43.270 --> 00:31:46.140
  • Whoa-ooh
  • 00:31:46.140 --> 00:31:48.160
  • I will only sing your praise
  • 00:31:51.030 --> 00:31:54.030
  • Whoa-ooh
  • 00:31:54.030 --> 00:31:56.080
  • I'll only sing your praise
  • 00:31:59.090 --> 00:32:02.110
  • Oh, God
  • 00:32:02.110 --> 00:32:03.240
  • And my heart burns
  • 00:32:44.170 --> 00:32:47.170
  • only for you
  • 00:32:47.210 --> 00:32:50.210
  • You are all
  • 00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:52.190
  • you are all I want
  • 00:32:55.170 --> 00:32:58.170
  • And my soul waits
  • 00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:02.160
  • only for you
  • 00:33:02.260 --> 00:33:05.260
  • And I will sing till
  • 00:33:05.260 --> 00:33:08.030
  • the morning has come
  • 00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:13.230
  • Lord, my heart burns
  • 00:33:14.230 --> 00:33:17.230
  • only for you
  • 00:33:17.230 --> 00:33:20.210
  • You are all
  • 00:33:20.210 --> 00:33:22.120
  • you are all I want
  • 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.240
  • And my soul waits
  • 00:33:29.180 --> 00:33:32.180
  • only for you
  • 00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:35.220
  • And I will sing
  • 00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:38.010
  • till the miracle comes
  • 00:33:39.210 --> 00:33:42.210
  • I will only sing your praise
  • 00:33:59.230 --> 00:34:02.250
  • Whoa-oh
  • 00:34:02.250 --> 00:34:04.270
  • Even when
  • 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:15.010
  • the morning comes
  • 00:34:15.010 --> 00:34:17.210
  • I'll praise you
  • 00:34:18.160 --> 00:34:21.160
  • Even when the fight is won
  • 00:34:22.120 --> 00:34:25.120
  • I'll praise you
  • 00:34:26.020 --> 00:34:29.020
  • Even when my time
  • 00:34:29.020 --> 00:34:31.040
  • on earth is done
  • 00:34:31.260 --> 00:34:34.260
  • louder then I'll sing
  • 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.280
  • your praise
  • 00:34:39.270 --> 00:34:42.270
  • I will only sing
  • 00:34:42.270 --> 00:34:45.060
  • - Niyah: Welcome back to
  • 00:35:09.240 --> 00:35:10.130
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:35:10.130 --> 00:35:11.040
  • Now, we just saw a clip from
  • 00:35:11.040 --> 00:35:12.230
  • Hillsong United with Taya Smith
  • 00:35:12.230 --> 00:35:14.230
  • singing one of my favorites,
  • 00:35:14.230 --> 00:35:16.100
  • "Even When It Hurts."
  • 00:35:16.100 --> 00:35:17.130
  • Now, Taya Smith is awesome.
  • 00:35:17.130 --> 00:35:18.250
  • She's just one part of the group
  • 00:35:18.250 --> 00:35:20.240
  • United.
  • 00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:21.140
  • And now we have the pleasure
  • 00:35:21.140 --> 00:35:23.120
  • and the privilege of pulling in
  • 00:35:23.120 --> 00:35:25.170
  • another part of United.
  • 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:27.010
  • Mr. JD is at the table
  • 00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:28.260
  • right now.
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  • Welcome him, everyone.
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  • - JD Douglass: I feel very
  • 00:35:32.210 --> 00:35:33.170
  • welcome, by the way.
  • 00:35:33.170 --> 00:35:35.000
  • - Niyah: That was like
  • 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:35.180
  • overwhelming.
  • 00:35:35.180 --> 00:35:36.040
  • - Ben Fielding: Look, I would
  • 00:35:36.040 --> 00:35:36.250
  • say, you know, United has some
  • 00:35:36.250 --> 00:35:38.130
  • great vocalists but none that
  • 00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:40.140
  • can sing as low as you.
  • 00:35:40.140 --> 00:35:41.240
  • - Ben Little: Yes.
  • 00:35:41.240 --> 00:35:42.200
  • - Ben Fielding: And that's
  • 00:35:42.200 --> 00:35:43.120
  • important to know that you
  • 00:35:43.120 --> 00:35:44.040
  • - JD: Yeah, absolutely.
  • 00:35:46.070 --> 00:35:46.220
  • You know it kind of--I'd like,
  • 00:35:46.220 --> 00:35:48.010
  • I'm not just the bassist,
  • 00:35:48.010 --> 00:35:50.090
  • I would say I'm the bass of
  • 00:35:50.090 --> 00:35:52.040
  • the vocals.
  • 00:35:52.040 --> 00:35:52.260
  • - Niyah: You hear how deep his
  • 00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:53.260
  • voice is?
  • 00:35:53.260 --> 00:35:54.190
  • - Ben Fielding: How low can
  • 00:35:56.230 --> 00:35:57.100
  • you go?
  • 00:35:57.100 --> 00:35:57.270
  • - JD: Oh, you know, like it
  • 00:35:57.270 --> 00:35:59.040
  • doesn't really matter how low
  • 00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:00.050
  • I can go.
  • 00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:01.120
  • As low as I need to.
  • 00:36:01.120 --> 00:36:02.240
  • - Ben Fielding: If you couldn't
  • 00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:03.170
  • hear that at home, JD was
  • 00:36:03.170 --> 00:36:04.200
  • speaking in a very low register.
  • 00:36:04.200 --> 00:36:06.220
  • Only canines can hear it.
  • 00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:09.240
  • - Ben Little: Now, you were
  • 00:36:09.240 --> 00:36:10.110
  • at an awards night recently
  • 00:36:10.110 --> 00:36:12.280
  • where you got to use your
  • 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.040
  • gifting as a low singer.
  • 00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:17.170
  • Tell us a bit about that.
  • 00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:20.200
  • - JD: You're not referencing
  • 00:36:20.200 --> 00:36:21.260
  • The Doves are you by any chance?
  • 00:36:21.260 --> 00:36:23.020
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, I think so.
  • 00:36:23.020 --> 00:36:24.030
  • - JD: Yeah, so we got
  • 00:36:24.030 --> 00:36:24.280
  • the incredible privilege with
  • 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.230
  • Hillsong United to be nominated
  • 00:36:26.230 --> 00:36:28.260
  • for a few Dove awards.
  • 00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:30.040
  • And I went 2 years prior and we
  • 00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:34.090
  • were up for a bunch of awards,
  • 00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:35.230
  • and I had to go by myself
  • 00:36:35.230 --> 00:36:37.030
  • because all the band were
  • 00:36:37.030 --> 00:36:37.270
  • recording at the time.
  • 00:36:37.270 --> 00:36:39.170
  • And so, it was like, I kind of
  • 00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:40.180
  • got sent to represent us
  • 00:36:40.180 --> 00:36:41.260
  • and we got a quite a few awards.
  • 00:36:41.260 --> 00:36:43.180
  • It was humbling and incredible.
  • 00:36:43.180 --> 00:36:45.290
  • By this time, I was back at
  • 00:36:45.290 --> 00:36:47.200
  • the awards and I was with
  • 00:36:47.200 --> 00:36:48.230
  • the whole team.
  • 00:36:48.230 --> 00:36:49.250
  • And I so I thought, this is
  • 00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:50.170
  • awesome.
  • 00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:51.030
  • I had to accept all the awards
  • 00:36:51.030 --> 00:36:52.090
  • by myself the last time so
  • 00:36:52.090 --> 00:36:53.220
  • I thought, I'm not gonna say
  • 00:36:53.220 --> 00:36:54.210
  • anything.
  • 00:36:54.210 --> 00:36:55.220
  • I'll let Joel and Taya and Jad,
  • 00:36:55.220 --> 00:36:56.250
  • everyone else can have
  • 00:36:56.250 --> 00:36:57.270
  • their turn.
  • 00:36:57.270 --> 00:36:58.290
  • And anyway--
  • 00:36:58.290 --> 00:36:59.250
  • - Niyah: He's such a Christian.
  • 00:36:59.250 --> 00:37:00.160
  • I love it.
  • 00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:01.010
  • Yes, yes.
  • 00:37:01.010 --> 00:37:01.260
  • - JD: So last time 'cause I was
  • 00:37:01.260 --> 00:37:02.240
  • by myself, I overprepared,
  • 00:37:02.240 --> 00:37:04.170
  • which is never a bad thing.
  • 00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:05.210
  • It's always a good thing
  • 00:37:05.210 --> 00:37:06.170
  • but this time, I kind of did the
  • 00:37:06.170 --> 00:37:07.250
  • opposite and it did come back to
  • 00:37:07.250 --> 00:37:09.040
  • bite me because we got the award
  • 00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:10.240
  • for worship album of the year.
  • 00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:13.100
  • And then, you know, you get up
  • 00:37:13.100 --> 00:37:15.030
  • on stage to collect and we
  • 00:37:15.030 --> 00:37:16.130
  • walked on stage.
  • 00:37:16.130 --> 00:37:17.120
  • I walked straight to the back
  • 00:37:17.120 --> 00:37:18.220
  • and kind of like was just there
  • 00:37:18.220 --> 00:37:19.250
  • to smile and nod.
  • 00:37:19.250 --> 00:37:21.000
  • And as I'm standing at the back
  • 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:22.020
  • there, Joel kind of pushed me
  • 00:37:22.020 --> 00:37:23.010
  • to the front saying,
  • 00:37:23.010 --> 00:37:24.130
  • "Say something."
  • 00:37:24.130 --> 00:37:25.000
  • And I was like, what do I say?
  • 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:26.200
  • I had nothing.
  • 00:37:26.200 --> 00:37:28.020
  • But before us, there was a bit
  • 00:37:28.020 --> 00:37:29.220
  • of an a cappella act and one of
  • 00:37:29.220 --> 00:37:31.110
  • the guys sang really deep.
  • 00:37:31.110 --> 00:37:33.050
  • And so, Joel whispers in my ear
  • 00:37:33.050 --> 00:37:34.100
  • quite beautifully,
  • 00:37:34.100 --> 00:37:35.250
  • "Say something,
  • 00:37:35.250 --> 00:37:36.180
  • speak in a deep voice."
  • 00:37:36.180 --> 00:37:38.000
  • And so, I literally stood to
  • 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:39.080
  • the microphone, a room full of
  • 00:37:39.080 --> 00:37:40.280
  • people, it's being televised and
  • 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.200
  • I said something as profound as
  • 00:37:42.200 --> 00:37:44.150
  • this, "Well, it's good to have
  • 00:37:44.150 --> 00:37:46.040
  • a deep voice also," and then
  • 00:37:46.040 --> 00:37:48.270
  • I stood back.
  • 00:37:48.270 --> 00:37:49.270
  • Probably my--one of my less
  • 00:37:49.270 --> 00:37:51.210
  • finest moments.
  • 00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:52.250
  • But you know what?
  • 00:37:52.250 --> 00:37:53.160
  • I'm just grateful for grace
  • 00:37:53.160 --> 00:37:54.190
  • because I'm able to continue
  • 00:37:54.190 --> 00:37:56.180
  • on in life.
  • 00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:57.220
  • - Ben Fielding: You're the man,
  • 00:37:57.220 --> 00:37:58.110
  • bro.
  • 00:37:58.110 --> 00:37:58.240
  • - Niyah: Hands down, one of
  • 00:37:58.240 --> 00:37:59.250
  • the best moments.
  • 00:37:59.250 --> 00:38:00.170
  • - JD: Maybe not but maybe.
  • 00:38:00.170 --> 00:38:01.090
  • Anyway.
  • 00:38:01.090 --> 00:38:01.250
  • - Ben Little: I love that
  • 00:38:01.250 --> 00:38:02.130
  • story.
  • 00:38:02.130 --> 00:38:03.000
  • Now, Jay Argaet from our
  • 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.090
  • Hillsong team got an award at
  • 00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:06.080
  • the Dove Awards, is that right?
  • 00:38:06.080 --> 00:38:07.090
  • - JD: Yeah.
  • 00:38:07.090 --> 00:38:08.030
  • - Ben Little: For the artwork?
  • 00:38:08.030 --> 00:38:08.220
  • What award was that?
  • 00:38:08.220 --> 00:38:09.120
  • - Ben Fielding: That was
  • 00:38:09.120 --> 00:38:10.120
  • the best package, best package
  • 00:38:10.120 --> 00:38:11.190
  • packaging award.
  • 00:38:11.190 --> 00:38:13.050
  • - JD: Yeah, packaging,
  • 00:38:13.050 --> 00:38:14.010
  • the whole kind of, you know,
  • 00:38:14.010 --> 00:38:15.070
  • presentation visually,
  • 00:38:15.070 --> 00:38:16.190
  • the art of it.
  • 00:38:16.190 --> 00:38:17.260
  • - Niyah: That's awesome.
  • 00:38:17.260 --> 00:38:18.160
  • Come on.
  • 00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:19.240
  • Go, Jay.
  • 00:38:19.240 --> 00:38:20.230
  • - Ben Fielding: That's
  • 00:38:20.230 --> 00:38:21.130
  • so happening.
  • 00:38:21.130 --> 00:38:21.280
  • It's so happening.
  • 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:22.140
  • Terrific award.
  • 00:38:22.140 --> 00:38:23.030
  • New JD, one of the things that
  • 00:38:23.030 --> 00:38:23.260
  • you're known for is your energy
  • 00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:25.100
  • on stage.
  • 00:38:25.100 --> 00:38:25.290
  • - Niyah: Yes.
  • 00:38:25.290 --> 00:38:26.250
  • - Ben Fielding: Is this
  • 00:38:26.250 --> 00:38:27.160
  • something that you train for?
  • 00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:29.030
  • - Niyah: Tell us the truth,
  • 00:38:29.030 --> 00:38:30.090
  • come on, you know?
  • 00:38:30.090 --> 00:38:31.090
  • - JD: You know, yes 'cause
  • 00:38:31.090 --> 00:38:32.190
  • I get on the treadmill.
  • 00:38:32.190 --> 00:38:33.210
  • I set it as fast as I can
  • 00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:34.160
  • with my iPod and I sing
  • 00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:36.030
  • worship songs to train.
  • 00:38:36.030 --> 00:38:38.010
  • - Niyah: Did you always have
  • 00:38:38.010 --> 00:38:39.020
  • this energy, or do you,
  • 00:38:39.020 --> 00:38:40.050
  • you know--
  • 00:38:40.050 --> 00:38:40.270
  • - JD: That was a joke.
  • 00:38:40.270 --> 00:38:41.120
  • You're allowed to laugh.
  • 00:38:41.120 --> 00:38:42.040
  • - Niyah: I got it.
  • 00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:43.090
  • I got the--
  • 00:38:43.090 --> 00:38:44.020
  • - JD: I actually have no
  • 00:38:44.020 --> 00:38:44.230
  • excuses.
  • 00:38:44.230 --> 00:38:45.130
  • I get really excited, pretty
  • 00:38:45.130 --> 00:38:47.270
  • much in any area of life,
  • 00:38:47.270 --> 00:38:49.210
  • as we know, you know?
  • 00:38:49.210 --> 00:38:51.270
  • And so, it just kind of
  • 00:38:51.270 --> 00:38:53.040
  • overflows when it comes to
  • 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:54.090
  • praising God.
  • 00:38:54.090 --> 00:38:55.160
  • I have no excuses.
  • 00:38:55.160 --> 00:38:58.090
  • - Niyah: And you were always
  • 00:38:58.090 --> 00:38:58.270
  • like this?
  • 00:38:58.270 --> 00:39:00.020
  • - JD: Yup, actually pretty
  • 00:39:00.020 --> 00:39:00.250
  • much.
  • 00:39:00.250 --> 00:39:01.190
  • It's just--it's who I am.
  • 00:39:01.190 --> 00:39:02.290
  • - Niyah: Now--
  • 00:39:02.290 --> 00:39:04.120
  • - JD: It's good to know that
  • 00:39:04.120 --> 00:39:05.000
  • God just takes us the way
  • 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:05.210
  • we are.
  • 00:39:05.210 --> 00:39:06.100
  • - Niyah: Just the way we are.
  • 00:39:06.100 --> 00:39:07.130
  • - JD: I'm accepted for who I am
  • 00:39:07.130 --> 00:39:08.170
  • and I'm an energetic person.
  • 00:39:08.170 --> 00:39:09.210
  • - Ben Fielding: What we're
  • 00:39:09.210 --> 00:39:10.080
  • gonna do is we're gonna cut to a
  • 00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:11.030
  • short break, then we're gonna
  • 00:39:11.030 --> 00:39:12.010
  • come back.
  • 00:39:12.010 --> 00:39:12.210
  • In this break, JD's gonna fire
  • 00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:13.220
  • up a little bit more.
  • 00:39:13.220 --> 00:39:14.170
  • Who knows what we'll come
  • 00:39:14.170 --> 00:39:15.070
  • back with.
  • 00:39:15.070 --> 00:39:15.240
  • So, stay tuned.
  • 00:39:15.240 --> 00:39:16.110
  • We'll be right back.
  • 00:39:16.110 --> 00:39:17.120
  • - Niyah: A song in
  • 00:39:17.120 --> 00:39:17.270
  • a deep voice, maybe.
  • 00:39:17.270 --> 00:39:19.210
  • - Ben Fielding: Well, well,
  • 00:39:26.180 --> 00:39:27.060
  • well, we're back here on
  • 00:39:27.060 --> 00:39:28.010
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:39:28.010 --> 00:39:28.290
  • Thanks for staying with us.
  • 00:39:28.290 --> 00:39:30.180
  • JD.
  • 00:39:30.180 --> 00:39:31.110
  • - Niyah: That's JD.
  • 00:39:31.110 --> 00:39:32.050
  • - Ben Fielding: In the house.
  • 00:39:32.050 --> 00:39:32.230
  • - Niyah: I wanna know who does
  • 00:39:32.230 --> 00:39:33.120
  • your hair?
  • 00:39:33.120 --> 00:39:34.110
  • How long do you do--do you
  • 00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:35.250
  • shampoo regularly?
  • 00:39:35.250 --> 00:39:36.280
  • What do you do?
  • 00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:37.210
  • - Ben Fielding: He prefers
  • 00:39:37.210 --> 00:39:38.090
  • people not to touch.
  • 00:39:38.090 --> 00:39:38.250
  • That is one of the things
  • 00:39:38.250 --> 00:39:39.110
  • he did ask.
  • 00:39:39.110 --> 00:39:40.040
  • - JD: It's true.
  • 00:39:40.040 --> 00:39:40.230
  • - Ben Little: As his friend,
  • 00:39:40.230 --> 00:39:41.140
  • I was about to step in.
  • 00:39:41.140 --> 00:39:42.020
  • - JD: Yeah, some things are
  • 00:39:44.130 --> 00:39:45.000
  • just better kept a secret.
  • 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.100
  • - Niyah: I got it.
  • 00:39:46.100 --> 00:39:47.050
  • You're not like a, you know--
  • 00:39:47.050 --> 00:39:48.230
  • - JD: This is like television
  • 00:39:48.230 --> 00:39:49.200
  • and you kind of asked me
  • 00:39:49.200 --> 00:39:50.210
  • the personal questions.
  • 00:39:50.210 --> 00:39:51.240
  • - Niyah: We can't go there,
  • 00:39:51.240 --> 00:39:52.160
  • ladies and--
  • 00:39:52.160 --> 00:39:53.030
  • - JD: I'm not prepared.
  • 00:39:53.030 --> 00:39:53.220
  • - Niyah: You're not prepared.
  • 00:39:53.220 --> 00:39:54.110
  • But your hair used to be really
  • 00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:55.090
  • long, right?
  • 00:39:55.090 --> 00:39:56.100
  • Like Pocahontas type length?
  • 00:39:56.100 --> 00:39:58.270
  • - JD: Yeah, that was actually
  • 00:39:58.270 --> 00:39:59.150
  • the reference that--I saw that
  • 00:39:59.150 --> 00:40:01.140
  • movie and I'm like, that's what
  • 00:40:01.140 --> 00:40:02.190
  • I need to do.
  • 00:40:02.190 --> 00:40:04.020
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, took
  • 00:40:04.020 --> 00:40:04.180
  • a picture into the hairdresser.
  • 00:40:04.180 --> 00:40:05.170
  • - Ben Fielding: Okay, well
  • 00:40:05.170 --> 00:40:06.040
  • guys, we're about to go behind
  • 00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:07.000
  • the scenes a little bit on
  • 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:07.260
  • a United tour, see some tour
  • 00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:09.240
  • antics or tour antics, depending
  • 00:40:09.240 --> 00:40:11.070
  • on where you grew up.
  • 00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:12.090
  • You say tomato, we say tomato,
  • 00:40:12.090 --> 00:40:13.250
  • whatever.
  • 00:40:13.250 --> 00:40:14.120
  • - Niyah: Look up that word.
  • 00:40:14.120 --> 00:40:15.010
  • I don't think you'll see it
  • 00:40:15.010 --> 00:40:15.250
  • there.
  • 00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:16.200
  • - Ben Fielding: We are gonna go
  • 00:40:16.200 --> 00:40:17.090
  • and check out some behind
  • 00:40:17.090 --> 00:40:17.250
  • the scenes with JD
  • 00:40:17.250 --> 00:40:18.220
  • and the United team.
  • 00:40:18.220 --> 00:40:19.180
  • - Jad Gillies: Welcome back
  • 00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:22.190
  • everybody to "Mixtape."
  • 00:40:22.190 --> 00:40:23.140
  • Now, JD, such a lovable guy.
  • 00:40:23.140 --> 00:40:26.080
  • He's what we call in Australia
  • 00:40:26.080 --> 00:40:29.050
  • quite pumpable and when I say
  • 00:40:29.050 --> 00:40:30.260
  • pumpable, I mean you can
  • 00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:31.200
  • pretty much convince him to do
  • 00:40:31.200 --> 00:40:33.170
  • pretty much anything.
  • 00:40:33.170 --> 00:40:34.290
  • - JD: Guilty.
  • 00:40:34.290 --> 00:40:35.180
  • - Jad: Now, our youth pastor,
  • 00:40:35.180 --> 00:40:36.130
  • Phil Dooley, he built our
  • 00:40:36.130 --> 00:40:37.150
  • ministry on one formula,
  • 00:40:37.150 --> 00:40:39.100
  • and that formula was called
  • 00:40:39.100 --> 00:40:40.150
  • pump theory.
  • 00:40:40.150 --> 00:40:41.070
  • Now, let me explain pump theory
  • 00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:42.110
  • to you a little bit.
  • 00:40:42.110 --> 00:40:43.110
  • It is enthusiasm, exceeding
  • 00:40:43.110 --> 00:40:46.030
  • ability equals injury.
  • 00:40:46.030 --> 00:40:48.230
  • You get that?
  • 00:40:48.230 --> 00:40:49.090
  • Enthusiasm, exceeding ability
  • 00:40:49.090 --> 00:40:51.210
  • equals injury.
  • 00:40:51.210 --> 00:40:52.250
  • Now, JD--
  • 00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:53.210
  • - JD: Doesn't sound very good
  • 00:40:53.210 --> 00:40:54.090
  • to me.
  • 00:40:54.090 --> 00:40:54.260
  • - Jad: No, it doesn't sound
  • 00:40:54.260 --> 00:40:55.230
  • good.
  • 00:40:55.230 --> 00:40:56.110
  • But JD over the years, we've got
  • 00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:57.280
  • him to do some pretty crazy
  • 00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.040
  • things.
  • 00:40:59.040 --> 00:40:59.290
  • We've got him to eat some
  • 00:40:59.290 --> 00:41:01.030
  • pretty crazy food.
  • 00:41:01.030 --> 00:41:02.080
  • - female: This is a national
  • 00:41:02.080 --> 00:41:03.080
  • dish we like to snack on here.
  • 00:41:03.080 --> 00:41:05.040
  • - female: This is natto.
  • 00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:06.230
  • - female: And here I have
  • 00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:07.250
  • something that we eat
  • 00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:08.210
  • as a snack.
  • 00:41:08.210 --> 00:41:09.250
  • In Chinese it's called
  • 00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:11.050
  • [speaking foreign language]
  • 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:14.040
  • - male: This is haggis.
  • 00:41:14.040 --> 00:41:16.000
  • - female: Rotten beans.
  • 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:17.110
  • It's really good.
  • 00:41:17.110 --> 00:41:19.000
  • We all love it.
  • 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:19.240
  • - female: I like to eat it
  • 00:41:19.240 --> 00:41:20.170
  • with onion.
  • 00:41:20.170 --> 00:41:21.050
  • It's raw fish.
  • 00:41:21.050 --> 00:41:22.050
  • - Jad: One of those things was
  • 00:41:22.050 --> 00:41:23.060
  • we got him to eat a massive
  • 00:41:23.060 --> 00:41:25.240
  • hamburger.
  • 00:41:25.240 --> 00:41:26.170
  • - male: Go!
  • 00:41:26.170 --> 00:41:28.110
  • One, two, three...
  • 00:41:28.140 --> 00:41:31.140
  • Halfway, mate.
  • 00:41:31.170 --> 00:41:34.170
  • - male: Come on, JD.
  • 00:41:57.100 --> 00:41:57.290
  • Eat it, eat it.
  • 00:41:59.100 --> 00:42:02.120
  • - Jad: I just happened to have
  • 00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:05.050
  • a massive hamburger right here
  • 00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:06.020
  • and I wondered if, for
  • 00:42:06.020 --> 00:42:07.200
  • the viewers, for the sake of
  • 00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:08.250
  • the viewers, you would show us
  • 00:42:08.250 --> 00:42:10.280
  • how it's done.
  • 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.190
  • - JD: Mate, if it's for
  • 00:42:11.190 --> 00:42:12.220
  • the people.
  • 00:42:12.220 --> 00:42:14.100
  • I'm just here to serve.
  • 00:42:14.100 --> 00:42:15.280
  • - Jad: Here we have
  • 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:16.290
  • a large burger.
  • 00:42:16.290 --> 00:42:19.010
  • Take it away, JD.
  • 00:42:19.010 --> 00:42:20.260
  • Get to it, son.
  • 00:42:20.260 --> 00:42:22.100
  • - JD: I actually need you to
  • 00:42:22.100 --> 00:42:22.280
  • hold the plate 'cause this
  • 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.290
  • - Jad: Oh, this is terrible.
  • 00:42:31.190 --> 00:42:34.030
  • There you have it, mates.
  • 00:42:48.190 --> 00:42:49.240
  • JD's a champion.
  • 00:42:50.290 --> 00:42:53.290
  • You're a champion, brother.
  • 00:43:00.220 --> 00:43:03.140
  • - JD: Same thing happened
  • 00:43:03.140 --> 00:43:04.110
  • all those years ago.
  • 00:43:04.110 --> 00:43:07.000
  • - female: JD, wanna try?
  • 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:08.200
  • - JD: Why not, eh?
  • 00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:10.260
  • - male: It contains
  • 00:43:10.260 --> 00:43:11.140
  • cow's blood, cow's bladder
  • 00:43:11.140 --> 00:43:13.260
  • and oatmeal.
  • 00:43:13.260 --> 00:43:15.120
  • - female: And JD, would you
  • 00:43:15.120 --> 00:43:16.090
  • like to have a try?
  • 00:43:16.090 --> 00:43:17.250
  • - JD: Why not?
  • 00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:19.220
  • Oh, it's very slippery.
  • 00:43:19.220 --> 00:43:21.090
  • - female: Which is basically
  • 00:43:21.090 --> 00:43:22.070
  • pork skin and fish balls.
  • 00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:24.010
  • - JD: Just in case you didn't
  • 00:43:24.010 --> 00:43:24.190
  • hear, rotten beans.
  • 00:43:24.190 --> 00:43:26.170
  • - JD: Smells pretty disgusting
  • 00:43:26.170 --> 00:43:28.160
  • - JD: Why not, eh?
  • 00:43:40.160 --> 00:43:43.160
  • - female: So, JD, what do you
  • 00:43:43.160 --> 00:43:44.240
  • think?
  • 00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:45.170
  • - JD: I'll have to pass on
  • 00:43:50.190 --> 00:43:51.090
  • haggis, I'm sorry.
  • 00:43:51.090 --> 00:43:53.230
  • No.
  • 00:43:54.100 --> 00:43:57.100
  • - Ben Little: Yes, we're back
  • 00:44:03.130 --> 00:44:04.040
  • here on "The Countdown."
  • 00:44:04.040 --> 00:44:05.140
  • We're with Jonathon Douglass,
  • 00:44:05.140 --> 00:44:06.270
  • JD.
  • 00:44:06.270 --> 00:44:07.160
  • We just saw a clip from
  • 00:44:07.160 --> 00:44:08.110
  • the "United Mixtape."
  • 00:44:08.110 --> 00:44:09.200
  • - Niyah: That was painful
  • 00:44:09.200 --> 00:44:10.080
  • to watch.
  • 00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:10.260
  • - Ben Little: Are you serious?
  • 00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:11.210
  • - Niyah: That was--how did you
  • 00:44:11.210 --> 00:44:13.110
  • do it?
  • 00:44:13.110 --> 00:44:14.040
  • - JD: I feel sick in
  • 00:44:14.040 --> 00:44:14.200
  • the stomach.
  • 00:44:14.200 --> 00:44:15.150
  • - Niyah: Do you regret any of
  • 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:16.070
  • those?
  • 00:44:16.070 --> 00:44:16.240
  • - JD: Regret?
  • 00:44:16.240 --> 00:44:17.170
  • Yeah, you can call it that.
  • 00:44:17.240 --> 00:44:20.240
  • Yeah, but I just choose to look
  • 00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:23.000
  • to the future, not the past.
  • 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:24.260
  • When we did look at the past,
  • 00:44:24.260 --> 00:44:26.170
  • I did--my stomach feels
  • 00:44:26.170 --> 00:44:28.120
  • a little bit off.
  • 00:44:28.120 --> 00:44:29.120
  • - Ben Fielding: I just wanna
  • 00:44:29.120 --> 00:44:30.000
  • take this opportunity to
  • 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:30.270
  • apologize to you on behalf of
  • 00:44:30.270 --> 00:44:32.170
  • everybody that derived any form
  • 00:44:32.170 --> 00:44:34.100
  • of pleasure from watching you go
  • 00:44:34.100 --> 00:44:35.190
  • through that.
  • 00:44:35.190 --> 00:44:36.060
  • - Niyah: I squinted through
  • 00:44:36.060 --> 00:44:36.230
  • that whole clip.
  • 00:44:36.230 --> 00:44:37.120
  • I could not watch.
  • 00:44:37.120 --> 00:44:38.070
  • I was like, oh dear.
  • 00:44:38.070 --> 00:44:39.090
  • - Ben Little: What was
  • 00:44:39.090 --> 00:44:39.260
  • the worst thing you ate?
  • 00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:41.240
  • - JD: I think there was
  • 00:44:41.240 --> 00:44:42.280
  • raw herring.
  • 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.120
  • I think we were in The Hague
  • 00:44:44.120 --> 00:44:46.290
  • and in Holland and yes,
  • 00:44:47.200 --> 00:44:50.200
  • ate raw fish.
  • 00:44:50.200 --> 00:44:51.280
  • I don't even like cooked fish
  • 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:52.270
  • so that was very hard.
  • 00:44:52.270 --> 00:44:54.050
  • - Ben Little: Wow, you're not
  • 00:44:54.050 --> 00:44:54.230
  • a fish guy.
  • 00:44:54.230 --> 00:44:55.070
  • - JD: No.
  • 00:44:55.070 --> 00:44:55.240
  • - Niyah: You're brave.
  • 00:44:55.240 --> 00:44:56.200
  • Come on.
  • 00:44:56.200 --> 00:44:57.080
  • - JD: Thank you.
  • 00:44:57.080 --> 00:44:58.050
  • - Niyah: It will put hair
  • 00:44:58.050 --> 00:44:58.210
  • on your chest.
  • 00:44:58.210 --> 00:44:59.130
  • Man, well listen, are you gonna
  • 00:44:59.130 --> 00:45:00.260
  • stick around?
  • 00:45:00.260 --> 00:45:01.150
  • Because we need you for the rest
  • 00:45:01.150 --> 00:45:02.070
  • of the whole segment.
  • 00:45:02.070 --> 00:45:03.010
  • You just need to be here because
  • 00:45:03.010 --> 00:45:04.170
  • I need to ask more questions.
  • 00:45:04.170 --> 00:45:05.240
  • I need to know your hairdresser,
  • 00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:07.060
  • all that other good stuff.
  • 00:45:07.060 --> 00:45:08.150
  • And I know these guys have
  • 00:45:08.150 --> 00:45:09.160
  • some questions.
  • 00:45:09.160 --> 00:45:10.050
  • - JD: Just 'cause you want me
  • 00:45:10.050 --> 00:45:10.230
  • to stay around, I will.
  • 00:45:10.230 --> 00:45:11.210
  • - Niyah: That's what I'm
  • 00:45:11.210 --> 00:45:12.080
  • talking about.
  • 00:45:12.080 --> 00:45:12.230
  • So, you guys don't go anywhere
  • 00:45:12.230 --> 00:45:13.150
  • because JD's sticking around on
  • 00:45:13.150 --> 00:45:15.260
  • "The Countdown" for the rest of
  • 00:45:15.260 --> 00:45:17.030
  • the episode.
  • 00:45:17.030 --> 00:45:18.080
  • So, stick with us 'cause it's
  • 00:45:18.080 --> 00:45:19.180
  • all happening right here on
  • 00:45:19.180 --> 00:45:20.290
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:45:20.290 --> 00:45:23.020
  • - Ben Fielding: Well, this is
  • 00:45:30.100 --> 00:45:30.280
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:31.150
  • You've made a very good decision
  • 00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:32.170
  • staying with us.
  • 00:45:32.170 --> 00:45:33.130
  • And we have JD here.
  • 00:45:33.130 --> 00:45:35.130
  • He's gonna help us close out
  • 00:45:35.130 --> 00:45:37.000
  • this episode.
  • 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:37.270
  • Now, JD, you are one of my
  • 00:45:37.270 --> 00:45:39.220
  • heroes and I have loved watching
  • 00:45:39.220 --> 00:45:41.290
  • you in Hillsong United.
  • 00:45:41.290 --> 00:45:43.150
  • Did you always see yourself
  • 00:45:43.150 --> 00:45:45.230
  • - JD: Quite the opposite,
  • 00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:48.140
  • actually.
  • 00:45:48.140 --> 00:45:49.030
  • I didn't really, yeah, have any
  • 00:45:50.010 --> 00:45:53.010
  • kind of desire or aspirations
  • 00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:54.030
  • I always wanted to build
  • 00:45:56.260 --> 00:45:57.200
  • a church and so that's kind of
  • 00:45:57.200 --> 00:45:59.230
  • what I put my hand up for.
  • 00:45:59.230 --> 00:46:01.030
  • And that's what I love about
  • 00:46:01.030 --> 00:46:02.100
  • God, you kind of just say,
  • 00:46:02.100 --> 00:46:03.160
  • "You know what?
  • 00:46:03.160 --> 00:46:04.100
  • Here I am, use me."
  • 00:46:04.100 --> 00:46:05.140
  • - Niyah: When did you know you
  • 00:46:05.140 --> 00:46:06.170
  • could sing?
  • 00:46:06.170 --> 00:46:07.110
  • When did you be like, "Oh, well,
  • 00:46:07.110 --> 00:46:08.130
  • I actually sound good"?
  • 00:46:08.130 --> 00:46:09.160
  • - JD: Well, I--when I was
  • 00:46:09.160 --> 00:46:10.180
  • a younger boy and I went through
  • 00:46:10.180 --> 00:46:12.220
  • this stage in life that most
  • 00:46:12.220 --> 00:46:14.100
  • boys do before they become
  • 00:46:14.100 --> 00:46:16.000
  • a man.
  • 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:16.280
  • And I went from talking
  • 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:17.220
  • like this to talking like this.
  • 00:46:17.220 --> 00:46:19.200
  • So I used to answer the phone
  • 00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:20.160
  • and people would say,
  • 00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:21.270
  • "Hi Robin," who's my mum's name
  • 00:46:21.270 --> 00:46:23.030
  • 'cause I'd basically say,
  • 00:46:23.030 --> 00:46:24.010
  • "Hello."
  • 00:46:24.010 --> 00:46:25.080
  • And then after a kind of
  • 00:46:25.080 --> 00:46:26.270
  • a 12-month period, no one ever
  • 00:46:26.270 --> 00:46:29.110
  • thought that I was a female when
  • 00:46:29.110 --> 00:46:31.050
  • I picked up the phone.
  • 00:46:31.050 --> 00:46:32.010
  • And so that kind of was
  • 00:46:32.010 --> 00:46:33.270
  • the start of me developing
  • 00:46:33.270 --> 00:46:35.170
  • my voice as a singer.
  • 00:46:35.170 --> 00:46:36.210
  • - Ben Fielding: Now JD, also
  • 00:46:36.210 --> 00:46:37.270
  • important in your journey
  • 00:46:37.270 --> 00:46:38.270
  • to manhood was Phil Dooley,
  • 00:46:38.270 --> 00:46:41.010
  • your youth pastor.
  • 00:46:41.010 --> 00:46:42.030
  • Can you just tell us
  • 00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:42.210
  • a little bit--
  • 00:46:42.210 --> 00:46:43.060
  • - JD: I like what you did
  • 00:46:43.060 --> 00:46:43.220
  • there.
  • 00:46:43.220 --> 00:46:44.100
  • - Ben Fielding: That's called
  • 00:46:44.100 --> 00:46:44.280
  • a segue in the biz.
  • 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:45.290
  • No big deal.
  • 00:46:45.290 --> 00:46:47.010
  • Can you just talk a little bit
  • 00:46:47.010 --> 00:46:47.210
  • about him as the youth pastor
  • 00:46:47.210 --> 00:46:49.050
  • 'cause we're about to go and see
  • 00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:50.030
  • Phil Dooley.
  • 00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:51.030
  • But just a little
  • 00:46:51.030 --> 00:46:52.190
  • something-something.
  • 00:46:52.190 --> 00:46:53.070
  • - JD: Yes, I think that
  • 00:46:53.070 --> 00:46:53.290
  • everybody that knows Phil Dooley
  • 00:46:53.290 --> 00:46:56.060
  • loves him.
  • 00:46:56.060 --> 00:46:57.010
  • Yeah, and I've kind of had
  • 00:46:57.010 --> 00:46:58.160
  • the privilege of growing up in
  • 00:46:58.160 --> 00:46:59.270
  • a youth ministry when he was
  • 00:46:59.270 --> 00:47:00.250
  • a youth pastor so played such
  • 00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:03.110
  • a vital role for me in life,
  • 00:47:03.110 --> 00:47:05.120
  • everything from, you know,
  • 00:47:05.120 --> 00:47:06.210
  • growing up to finding God.
  • 00:47:06.210 --> 00:47:08.130
  • What I love about Phil, which I
  • 00:47:08.130 --> 00:47:09.280
  • think really marks him, is he
  • 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.250
  • loves to just embrace enjoying
  • 00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:13.260
  • life and having fun.
  • 00:47:13.260 --> 00:47:15.000
  • So, most people call him
  • 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:16.000
  • Phil Dooley and those closest
  • 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:17.180
  • to him call him Fun Dooley.
  • 00:47:17.180 --> 00:47:19.100
  • - Niyah: Yes!
  • 00:47:19.100 --> 00:47:20.140
  • - Ben Fielding: Little play on
  • 00:47:20.140 --> 00:47:21.110
  • words.
  • 00:47:21.110 --> 00:47:21.280
  • Now, Phil Dooley, of course,
  • 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:22.180
  • now is in South Africa.
  • 00:47:22.180 --> 00:47:24.000
  • He is our lead pastor there in
  • 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.050
  • South Africa, and we're about
  • 00:47:26.050 --> 00:47:27.030
  • to see a clip of him preaching.
  • 00:47:27.030 --> 00:47:28.250
  • Now, next year, 2017, we are
  • 00:47:28.250 --> 00:47:30.290
  • gonna see Phil Dooley for
  • 00:47:30.290 --> 00:47:32.110
  • the first time on
  • 00:47:32.110 --> 00:47:33.070
  • the Hillsong Channel preaching.
  • 00:47:33.070 --> 00:47:34.270
  • It's gonna be incredible.
  • 00:47:34.270 --> 00:47:35.260
  • And so, we're gonna leave you
  • 00:47:35.260 --> 00:47:37.070
  • with that and then make sure you
  • 00:47:37.070 --> 00:47:38.170
  • join us tomorrow on
  • 00:47:38.170 --> 00:47:39.180
  • "The Countdown"
  • 00:47:39.180 --> 00:47:40.080
  • for Christmas Eve.
  • 00:47:40.080 --> 00:47:41.190
  • We're gonna be bringing it home
  • 00:47:41.190 --> 00:47:42.290
  • strong tomorrow on
  • 00:47:42.290 --> 00:47:45.120
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:47:45.120 --> 00:47:46.010
  • Thank you, JD.
  • 00:47:46.010 --> 00:47:47.010
  • Thank you, Phil Dooley.
  • 00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:48.130
  • See you tomorrow.
  • 00:47:48.130 --> 00:47:49.130
  • - Niyah: Fun Dooley,
  • 00:47:49.130 --> 00:47:50.140
  • - Phil Dooley: I've been
  • 00:47:52.180 --> 00:47:53.040
  • speaking recently and this verse
  • 00:47:53.040 --> 00:47:54.230
  • has been on my mind a whole lot.
  • 00:47:54.230 --> 00:47:57.060
  • Isaiah 55, verse 9, "As
  • 00:47:57.250 --> 00:48:00.270
  • the heavens are higher than
  • 00:48:00.270 --> 00:48:01.290
  • the earth, so are My ways higher
  • 00:48:01.290 --> 00:48:04.090
  • than your ways.
  • 00:48:04.090 --> 00:48:05.040
  • And My thoughts than
  • 00:48:05.040 --> 00:48:06.030
  • your thoughts."
  • 00:48:06.030 --> 00:48:06.290
  • God sees at a higher perspective
  • 00:48:06.290 --> 00:48:09.260
  • than we see.
  • 00:48:09.260 --> 00:48:10.290
  • And when I spend time with God,
  • 00:48:10.290 --> 00:48:12.220
  • he always lifts my vision.
  • 00:48:12.220 --> 00:48:15.000
  • He's never gonna give me
  • 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:15.220
  • less vision.
  • 00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:16.290
  • He's never gonna make my vision
  • 00:48:16.290 --> 00:48:18.040
  • smaller.
  • 00:48:18.040 --> 00:48:18.270
  • He's always gonna enlarge
  • 00:48:18.270 --> 00:48:20.090
  • my vision and enlarge what's
  • 00:48:20.090 --> 00:48:22.070
  • possible.
  • 00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:23.100
  • When I spend time with God, why?
  • 00:48:23.100 --> 00:48:24.260
  • Because his ways are higher.
  • 00:48:24.260 --> 00:48:26.090
  • His thoughts are higher.
  • 00:48:26.090 --> 00:48:27.200
  • He sees from
  • 00:48:27.200 --> 00:48:28.170
  • a different perspective.
  • 00:48:28.170 --> 00:48:30.020
  • Here's the thing, God is
  • 00:48:30.020 --> 00:48:31.120
  • as interested in the process
  • 00:48:31.120 --> 00:48:33.180
  • as he is in the destination.
  • 00:48:33.190 --> 00:48:36.190
  • We want the destination.
  • 00:48:36.190 --> 00:48:39.110
  • God's as interested in the
  • 00:48:39.110 --> 00:48:40.040
  • process and the journey as he is
  • 00:48:40.040 --> 00:48:42.240
  • in the destination.
  • 00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:44.040
  • Why?
  • 00:48:44.040 --> 00:48:44.210
  • Because in the process, builds
  • 00:48:44.210 --> 00:48:46.010
  • character, builds strength,
  • 00:48:46.010 --> 00:48:48.010
  • builds trust in God, builds
  • 00:48:48.010 --> 00:48:50.090
  • a whole lot of things inside of
  • 00:48:50.090 --> 00:48:51.280
  • you so you can handle where
  • 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.240
  • he's taking you.
  • 00:48:53.240 --> 00:48:55.010
  • But where we're at is we just
  • 00:48:55.010 --> 00:48:56.170
  • want the destination, don't we?
  • 00:48:56.170 --> 00:48:57.200
  • We just wanna get there as fast
  • 00:48:57.200 --> 00:48:59.090
  • as possible.
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  • That's why when we're in traffic
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  • and it's like a, you know,
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  • traffic jam, what do we do?
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  • We get out our smartphone,
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  • we push maps
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  • and we look at where
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  • the little blue circle is that
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  • tells us where we are.
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  • And then we look at
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  • all the red lines
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  • that tell us where we are
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  • in the midst of the red line to
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  • work out how long before us,
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  • the little, blue circle, can get
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  • to the end of the red lines.
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  • Why?
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  • Because we need a different
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  • perspective that's looking down
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  • on the whole situation.
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  • Often, we don't see like
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  • God sees.
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  • We're in the midst of something
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  • just seeing a traffic jam,
  • 00:49:37.120 --> 00:49:38.230
  • wondering what's happening,
  • 00:49:38.230 --> 00:49:40.030
  • wondering why nothing's moving
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  • forward, wondering why we're not
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  • going where we wanna go.
  • 00:49:43.130 --> 00:49:44.290
  • And God's saying,
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  • "Just stick at it.
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  • Even if you're going slowly,
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  • keep on going.
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  • Keep on moving.
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  • Come on, because ultimately,
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  • you're gonna get where I have
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  • for you to go.
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  • And in the process, I'm teaching
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  • you trust, I'm teaching you
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  • patience, I'm teaching you
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  • to recognize that I'm with you
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  • through every season."
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  • You want to build vision
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  • into your life, hang around
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  • visionaries.
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  • Hang around people who encourage
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  • you to dream big
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  • and to think big.
  • 00:50:10.290 --> 00:50:12.080
  • And sometimes we don't like to
  • 00:50:12.080 --> 00:50:13.010
  • do that 'cause it threatens us.
  • 00:50:13.010 --> 00:50:15.040
  • Hey, don't be insecure.
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  • Hang around people who challenge
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  • you 'cause it's gonna help you
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  • to grow.
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  • I love being in New York City.
  • 00:50:21.190 --> 00:50:23.030
  • Why?
  • 00:50:23.030 --> 00:50:23.180
  • Because there are buildings
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  • there that are amazing.
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  • And I think to myself, if
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  • someone had a vision for that,
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  • that's why it's here.
  • 00:50:30.050 --> 00:50:31.180
  • So, why couldn't we see God do
  • 00:50:31.180 --> 00:50:33.050
  • all kinds of miracles in our
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  • midst?
  • 00:50:34.130 --> 00:50:35.110
  • Sometimes we think,
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  • "Oh, well, it's not America.
  • 00:50:36.090 --> 00:50:38.100
  • It's not New York.
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  • We're only in South Africa.
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  • It probably couldn't happen
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  • here."
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  • Can I tell you, God's not
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  • listening to your accent
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  • or looking at where you're from?
  • 00:50:44.260 --> 00:50:47.000
  • He's looking at your heart
  • 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:48.000
  • and he's looking for people
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  • with vision.
  • 00:50:49.170 --> 00:50:50.170
  • And wherever people have vision,
  • 00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:52.190
  • God will do all kinds
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  • of miracles.
  • 00:50:53.260 --> 00:50:55.260
  • And I don't want us to ever to
  • 00:50:55.260 --> 00:50:56.240
  • disqualify ourself by thinking,
  • 00:50:56.240 --> 00:50:58.270
  • "Well, it's not possible 'cause
  • 00:50:58.270 --> 00:51:00.120
  • I'm not in that part of
  • 00:51:00.120 --> 00:51:01.210
  • the world, or I didn't have
  • 00:51:01.210 --> 00:51:02.280
  • that education,
  • 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.070
  • or I haven't achieved that."
  • 00:51:04.070 --> 00:51:05.180
  • That is a lie.
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  • God can place you with
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  • visionaries that challenge you.
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