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Guests Victoria Osteen & Steven Curtis Chapman

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June 7, 2019
26:38

The Eric Metaxas Radio Show

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  • [WHOOSH]
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  • [DOOR SLAMMING]
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  • [WHOOSH]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - MALE: HEY.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [BOINK]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [CRASH]
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  • [CHEERS]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: HEY, THERE,
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  • I'M ERIC METAXAS, AND I'M
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  • SITTING HERE WITH
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  • VICTORIA OSTEEN, HOW DID YOU
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  • SNEAK IN HERE?
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  • WHAT ARE YOU DOIN' HERE?
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  • - VICTORIA OSTEEN: WELL, THANK
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  • YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO BE
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  • HERE.
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  • I MEAN, THE SET IS AMAZING.
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  • - ERIC: I KNOW.
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  • - VICTORIA: THIS IS A FUN, FUN
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  • CONVERSATION.
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  • PLACE TO BE WITH YOU.
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  • IT'S GREAT.
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  • - ERIC: I DID THIS MYSELF ON
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  • WEEKENDS.
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  • PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE I'M VERY
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  • HANDY, AND I JUST-- YOU KNOW, I
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  • KNOCKED IT OUT IN ABOUT-- I
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  • GUESS IT WAS ABOUT SIX WEEKS,
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  • ALBIN, RIGHT?
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  • AND AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, TBN
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  • BUILT THIS AMAZING SET.
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  • THEY SAID, "WE'LL BUILD YOU A
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  • SET,"
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  • AND I'M ALWAYS LIKE,
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  • "YEAH, YEAH, WHATEVER, WHATEVER,
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  • WHATEVER,"
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  • AND THIS IS WHAT WE ENDED
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  • UP WITH, SO I'M VERY HAPPY
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  • TO BE HERE.
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  • - VICTORIA: THAT'S 'CAUSE TBN,
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  • DOES IT FIRST CLASS.
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  • - ERIC: NOW, WE'RE HERE TO TALK
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  • ABOUT YOU AND YOUR BOOK.
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  • YOUR BOOK IS TITLED
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  • "EXCEPTIONAL YOU!
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  • 7 WAYS TO LIVE ENCOURAGED,
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  • EMPOWERED, AND INTENTIONAL."
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  • YOU'VE WRITTEN A LOT OF BOOKS,
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  • SO WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS BOOK
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  • THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT?
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  • - VICTORIA: WELL, YOU KNOW, I
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  • JUST BELIEVE, AT THE TIME THAT
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  • PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING SO MUCH
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  • ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION, AND
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  • THEY'RE LOOKIN' FOR THEIR
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  • IDENTITY SO MANY PLACES, FROM
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  • YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR
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  • IDENTITY INTO WHAT THEY DO AND
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  • HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY ARE, AND I
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  • WROTE THIS BOOK BECAUSE I REALLY
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  • BELIEVE THAT GOD MADE EACH ONE
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  • OF US EXCEPTIONAL.
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  • WE WERE DESIGNED AND HANDCRAFTED
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  • BY AN EXCEPTIONAL GOD, AND HE
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  • PLACED SO MANY GIFTS AND TALENTS
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  • IN US AND THE QUALITIES THAT WE
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  • NEED TO SUCCEED, BUT, SEE, TOO
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  • OFTEN, WE FEEL ORDINARY AND
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  • COMMON, AND I WROTE THIS BOOK
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  • BECAUSE I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO
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  • UNDERSTAND THEY NEED TO FIND
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  • THEIR IDENTITY IN WHOSE THEY
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  • ARE, AND THAT ALLOWED THEM TO
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  • SEE WHO THEY ARE, SO THE POINT
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  • IS THAT WE HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL
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  • GIFTS, AND WE CANNOT REDUCE THEM
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  • DOWN TO JUST ORDINARY OR
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  • MUNDANE.
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  • WE'RE ALL ON THIS JOURNEY OF
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  • FAITH-- VERY UNIQUE.
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  • EVERYONE'S PATH IS DIFFERENT,
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  • BUT GOD'S DESTINATION FOR ALL OF
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  • US IS VICTORY.
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  • - ERIC: WELL, IT'S INTERESTING
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  • 'CAUSE WHAT PEOPLE-- I THINK
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  • WHAT SOME PEOPLE HEAR WHEN THEY
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  • HEAR YOU OR YOUR HUSBAND SAY
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  • SOMETHING LIKE THAT-- AND, BY
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  • THE WAY, I AGREE DRAMATICALLY,
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  • BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE
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  • LOOKING FOR YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE
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  • SUFFERING OR DIFFICULTY OR
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  • SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND I WOULD
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  • ARGUE THAT YOU DO, BUT YOU'RE
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  • TRYING TO POINT PEOPLE PAST
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  • THAT, OR YOU'RE TRYIN' TO POINT
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  • PEOPLE TO JESUS IN THE MIDST OF
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  • THAT AND THAT YOU'RE NOT
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  • ACTUALLY JUST SAYING, LIKE,
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  • "JESUS'S DESTINY FOR US IS
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  • FINANCIAL VICTORY," OR WHATEVER.
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  • WHAT YOU'RE TRYIN' TO SAY IS
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  • THAT, WHEN WE FOCUS ON HIM-- AND
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  • CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG-- BUT
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  • THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF
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  • VICTORY, AND IT STARTS WITH OUR
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  • MINDS, THAT WE CHOOSE TO BELIEVE
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  • ONE THING OR THE OTHER, AND IF
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  • WE CHOOSE TO BELIEVE WHAT THE
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  • BIBLE SAYS ABOUT WHO WE ARE, IT
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  • ACTUALLY CHANGES EVERYTHING.
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  • - VICTORIA: YOU KNOW, I REALLY
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  • BELIEVE THE SUCCESS IN LIFE
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  • COMES FROM OUR ATTITUDES AND OUR
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  • CHOICES BECAUSE WE HAVE
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  • CHALLENGES.
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  • EVERY ONE OF US, YOU'RE NOT
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  • EXEMPT FROM CHALLENGES, BUT IT'S
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  • HOW YOU HANDLE THOSE CHALLENGES.
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  • ARE YOU GONNA GET STUCK IN THOSE
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  • CHALLENGES?
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  • ARE YOU GONNA RISE ABOVE THOSE
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  • CHALLENGES?
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  • I HAVE A CHAPTER IN THE BOOK
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  • THAT SAYS, "LIFT UP YOUR EYES."
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  • YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FACE
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  • DIFFICULTIES AND PROBLEMS, IT
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  • SEEMS LIKE THAT'S ALL WE CAN SEE
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  • BECAUSE WE FOCUS SO MUCH ON
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  • THOSE CHALLENGES, AND THOSE
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  • CHALLENGES BECOME THE BIGGEST
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  • THING THAT WE SEE, AND I
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  • ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, INSTEAD OF
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  • JUST FACING THOSE CHALLENGES ON
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  • EVERY DAY AND THINKING ABOUT
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  • YOUR PROBLEMS AND REHEARSING
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  • THOSE PROBLEMS, TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • THOSE PROBLEMS, SHIFT YOUR EYES
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  • TO THE PROMISES OF GOD BECAUSE
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  • HE'S GOT A PROMISE FOR EVERY
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  • PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, AND THE
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  • KEY IS TO FIND THE PROMISE OF
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  • GOD AND WHERE IT'S WRITTEN AND
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  • BEGIN TO MEDITATE AND DWELL ON
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  • THOSE THINGS.
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  • THOSE WILL HELP YOU GO THROUGH
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  • THE VALLEYS, THROUGH THE
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  • CHALLENGES, AND NOT TO DEFINE
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  • YOURSELF BY THOSE CHALLENGES.
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  • AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN
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  • LIFE, ERIC, THAT-- YOU KNOW
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  • WHAT?
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  • -- YOU'RE GONNA FACE A GREAT
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  • LOSS BUT IS ALWAYS GONNA BE A
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  • PART OF YOUR LIFE.
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  • I TALK TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
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  • THEY'VE LOST A CHILD.
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  • THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY, BUT YOU
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  • KNOW WHAT?
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  • YOU CAN LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT
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  • YOU'LL SEE THEM AGAIN, THAT GOD
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  • IS ON YOUR SIDE, THAT YOU CAN GO
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  • ON.
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  • I SAID TO SOMEONE THE OTHER
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  • DAY-- SHE SAID TO ME, SHE SAID,
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  • "I RETIRED.
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  • TWO WEEKS LATER, I LOST MY SON."
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  • AND SHE SAID, "IT'S BEEN A YEAR
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  • OUT," AND SHE SAID, "YOU KNOW,
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  • I'M GIVING OF MY TIME.
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  • I'M DOING THE THINGS I KNOW TO
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  • DO."
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  • AND I SAID TO HER, "YOU'LL
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  • NEVER GET-- YOU KNOW, YOUR SON
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  • WILL ALWAYS BE IN YOUR HEART.
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  • YOU'LL LIVE THAT EVERY DAY, BUT
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  • WHAT WOULD YOUR SON WANT YOU TO
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  • DO?
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  • HE WOULD SAY, 'MOM, I WANT YOU
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  • TO GO ON.
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  • I WANT YOU TO LIVE.
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  • YOU HAVE SO MUCH IN YOU, MOM.'"
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  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY
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  • BELIEVE THAT THAT'S HOW WE HAVE
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  • TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE
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  • CHALLENGES BECAUSE, YES,
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  • THEY'RE REAL.
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  • THE STRUGGLE IS REAL, BUT WE
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  • CAN'T GET STUCK BECAUSE GOD HAS
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  • PLACED TOO MUCH IN US.
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  • HE HAS TOO MANY THINGS FOR US,
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  • FOR US TO JUST SIT BACK AND SAY,
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  • "OKAY, I'M JUST-- I HAVE NO
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  • VALUE NOW.
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  • MY LIFE IS OVER."
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  • - ERIC: WELL, IT'S INTERESTING
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  • TOO BECAUSE SCRIPTURE COULDN'T
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  • BE CLEARER.
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  • I MEAN, PHILIPPIANS 4, SAYS,
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  • "REJOICE IN THE LORD ALWAYS,"
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  • AND I THINK ANY TIME I'M NOT
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  • REJOICING IN THE LORD,
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  • I'M SINNING.
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  • NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M
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  • NOT GONNA BE SAD OR DISCOURAGED
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  • BY CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT THE LORD,
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  • IN HIS LOVE, IS BEGGING ME TO
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  • REJOICE IN HIM IN THE MIDST OF
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  • IT, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE
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  • MANY CHURCHES WHERE THEY'RE NOT
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  • PREACHING THAT, OR THERE ARE A
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  • LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE NOT
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  • GOING TO CHURCH OR WHATEVER IT
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  • IS, BUT IF YOU DON'T HEAR THE
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  • TRUTH OF WHAT THE SCRIPTURE
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  • SAYS, OUR NATURAL SINFUL
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  • INSTINCT IS TO FOCUS ON THE
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  • PROBLEM.
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  • WE'VE ALL DONE IT, BASICALLY,
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  • AND, YOU KNOW, READING BOOKS
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  • LIKE YOURS, HEARING PREACHING
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  • THAT FOCUSES ON THAT,
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  • IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO LIVE,
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  • AND I THINK IT MAKES THE
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  • LORD SAD WHEN WE'RE SAD AND
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  • WHEN WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON WHAT
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  • HE'S GIVEN US.
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  • - VICTORIA: YEAH, IN FACT, IT
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  • SAYS IT TWICE.
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  • IT SAYS, "REJOICE IN THE LORD
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  • ALWAYS.
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  • AGAIN, I SAY, REJOICE."
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  • I REALLY BELIEVE THAT GOD
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  • WANTS US TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE
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  • LEFT, YOU KNOW, NOT ALWAYS
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  • LOOKIN' AT WHAT WE'VE LOST OR
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  • WHAT DIDN'T WORK OUT OR WHAT WE
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  • WISH COULD HAPPEN, BUT REALLY TO
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  • SAY, "HEY, WHAT DO I HAVE TODAY
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  • TO REJOICE IN?"
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  • AND I BELIEVE EVERY ONE OF US
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  • HAVE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AND
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  • SAY, "I AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS.
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  • IF I DIDN'T HAVE IT--" YOU KNOW,
  • 00:06:53.190 --> 00:06:55.120
  • I TALK IN THE BOOK A LOT ABOUT
  • 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:56.220
  • APPRECIATING WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT
  • 00:06:56.220 --> 00:06:59.150
  • NOW.
  • 00:06:59.150 --> 00:07:00.030
  • SO OFTEN, WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
  • 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.040
  • AND IN A NATION WHO DOES--
  • 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:05.280
  • WE HAVE PLENTY.
  • 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:07.230
  • I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT WE HAVE,
  • 00:07:07.230 --> 00:07:09.050
  • AND WE TAKE FOR GRANTED THE
  • 00:07:09.050 --> 00:07:10.210
  • THINGS THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER
  • 00:07:10.210 --> 00:07:12.030
  • IT'S FAMILY OR WHETHER IT'S A
  • 00:07:12.030 --> 00:07:13.270
  • HOME, IT'S A JOB, AND YOU THINK,
  • 00:07:13.270 --> 00:07:14.280
  • "WELL, I DON'T LIKE THIS JOB,"
  • 00:07:14.280 --> 00:07:17.060
  • AND "I DON'T LIKE GOIN' TO THIS
  • 00:07:17.060 --> 00:07:18.030
  • JOB."
  • 00:07:18.030 --> 00:07:18.220
  • WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:07:18.220 --> 00:07:19.140
  • WHO ARE PRAYING FOR A JOB
  • 00:07:19.140 --> 00:07:22.020
  • JUST LIKE THAT, AND SO WE DON'T
  • 00:07:22.020 --> 00:07:23.140
  • WANNA HAVE TO LOSE SOMETHING
  • 00:07:23.140 --> 00:07:25.060
  • BEFORE WE REALIZE HOW VALUABLE
  • 00:07:25.060 --> 00:07:27.280
  • IT REALLY WAS, WHETHER IT'S A
  • 00:07:27.280 --> 00:07:29.220
  • SPOUSE, YOU KNOW, A JOB,
  • 00:07:29.220 --> 00:07:31.110
  • SOMETHING THAT YOU HOLD DEAR.
  • 00:07:31.220 --> 00:07:34.220
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO
  • 00:07:34.220 --> 00:07:36.290
  • LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AND NOT AT
  • 00:07:36.290 --> 00:07:38.060
  • WHAT WE LOST.
  • 00:07:38.060 --> 00:07:39.220
  • WE HAVE TO HOLD ONTO WHAT WE
  • 00:07:39.220 --> 00:07:40.260
  • HAVE AND DON'T RUN AFTER
  • 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:41.280
  • SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE
  • 00:07:41.280 --> 00:07:42.180
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:07:42.180 --> 00:07:43.180
  • GOD HAS A GREAT PLAN FOR ALL OF
  • 00:07:43.180 --> 00:07:45.120
  • OUR LIVES, AND WE JUST HAVE TO
  • 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.240
  • REJOICE IN WHAT HE HAS FOR US
  • 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.270
  • TODAY, AND I BELIEVE IT'LL LEAD
  • 00:07:48.270 --> 00:07:50.100
  • US TO A BETTER TOMORROW.
  • 00:07:50.100 --> 00:07:51.090
  • - ERIC: OKAY, YOU'VE WRITTEN
  • 00:07:51.090 --> 00:07:52.040
  • A BOOK.
  • 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:52.290
  • I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE
  • 00:07:52.290 --> 00:07:53.200
  • BOOK, "7 WAYS TO LIVE
  • 00:07:53.200 --> 00:07:54.200
  • ENCOURAGED, EMPOWERED, AND
  • 00:07:54.200 --> 00:07:55.090
  • INTENTIONAL."
  • 00:07:55.090 --> 00:07:56.030
  • THE TITLE IS "EXCEPTIONAL YOU!"
  • 00:07:56.030 --> 00:07:57.000
  • SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE
  • 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.210
  • SEVEN THINGS?
  • 00:07:58.210 --> 00:08:00.260
  • YOU SAID, "KNOW THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:08:00.260 --> 00:08:01.160
  • CHOSEN," "LIFT UP YOUR EYES."
  • 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:02.190
  • WHAT IS "KEEP YOUR
  • 00:08:02.190 --> 00:08:04.210
  • MEMORY BOX FULL"?
  • 00:08:04.210 --> 00:08:06.090
  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
  • 00:08:06.090 --> 00:08:06.290
  • SO OFTEN, WE HAVE SO MUCH
  • 00:08:10.110 --> 00:08:11.170
  • NEGATIVE AROUND US, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:08:11.170 --> 00:08:12.130
  • PEOPLE SAYING THINGS ABOUT US.
  • 00:08:12.130 --> 00:08:13.040
  • MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T BROUGHT UP,
  • 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:14.190
  • AND YOU KIND OF HOLD OF THAT IN
  • 00:08:14.190 --> 00:08:16.130
  • SOMEBODY DID SOMETHIN' TO YOU,
  • 00:08:18.230 --> 00:08:19.210
  • THERE'S SO MANY NEGATIVE FORCES
  • 00:08:19.210 --> 00:08:22.080
  • OUT THERE, THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE
  • 00:08:22.080 --> 00:08:25.030
  • SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING GOOD
  • 00:08:25.030 --> 00:08:26.140
  • THINGS IN.
  • 00:08:26.140 --> 00:08:27.180
  • YOU SEE, THE BIBLE SAYS OUT OF
  • 00:08:27.180 --> 00:08:29.000
  • THE GOOD OF SOMEONE'S HEART,
  • 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:30.210
  • HE'LL BRING FORTH THE GOOD, AND
  • 00:08:30.210 --> 00:08:32.070
  • SO WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT
  • 00:08:32.070 --> 00:08:35.070
  • PUTTING THE GOOD IN OUR HEART,
  • 00:08:35.180 --> 00:08:38.180
  • SO I LIKE TO LOOK AT MY HEART AS
  • 00:08:38.180 --> 00:08:39.120
  • A MEMORY BOX, ERIC.
  • 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.070
  • YOU KNOW, WHAT I PUT IN, WHETHER
  • 00:08:42.070 --> 00:08:44.100
  • IT'S SOMETHING LOVELY MY HUSBAND
  • 00:08:44.100 --> 00:08:45.230
  • SAID TO ME, A NOTE FROM MY
  • 00:08:45.230 --> 00:08:46.260
  • CHILD, A COMPLIMENT THAT SOMEONE
  • 00:08:46.260 --> 00:08:48.030
  • GAVE ME, I LIKE TO NOT JUST
  • 00:08:48.030 --> 00:08:49.260
  • BRUSH THOSE OFF BUT LITERALLY
  • 00:08:49.260 --> 00:08:51.080
  • PUT THOSE IN MY HEART, STOCKPILE
  • 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:52.250
  • THOSE GOOD THINGS IN MY HEART.
  • 00:08:52.250 --> 00:08:54.190
  • YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A STUDY DONE
  • 00:08:54.190 --> 00:08:57.040
  • AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY THAT
  • 00:08:57.040 --> 00:08:58.090
  • CITED THAT WE REMEMBER THE BAD
  • 00:08:58.090 --> 00:09:00.140
  • OVER THE GOOD.
  • 00:09:00.140 --> 00:09:03.110
  • FOR INSTANCE, THEY SAID, IF YOU
  • 00:09:03.110 --> 00:09:05.180
  • LOSE $50, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT
  • 00:09:05.180 --> 00:09:07.130
  • MORE THAN GAINING $50, BECAUSE
  • 00:09:07.170 --> 00:09:10.170
  • OUR BRAIN, THE NEGATIVE, HOLDS
  • 00:09:10.170 --> 00:09:12.250
  • MORE SPACE IN OUR BRAIN, AND SO
  • 00:09:13.060 --> 00:09:16.060
  • WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE TO MAKE
  • 00:09:16.060 --> 00:09:17.150
  • SURE WE'RE PUTTING GOOD IN SO
  • 00:09:17.150 --> 00:09:19.220
  • THAT GOOD WILL COME OUT, AND SO
  • 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:21.100
  • I JUST LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS A
  • 00:09:21.110 --> 00:09:24.110
  • MEMORY BOX.
  • 00:09:24.110 --> 00:09:24.260
  • I TELL A STORY ABOUT HOW A
  • 00:09:24.260 --> 00:09:25.250
  • FRIEND OF MINE GAVE ME A
  • 00:09:25.250 --> 00:09:27.050
  • BEAUTIFUL BOX WHEN WE WERE IN
  • 00:09:27.050 --> 00:09:28.170
  • MOROCCO.
  • 00:09:28.170 --> 00:09:30.040
  • IT WAS MY BIRTHDAY.
  • 00:09:30.040 --> 00:09:31.040
  • WE HAPPENED TO BE THERE, AND SHE
  • 00:09:31.040 --> 00:09:32.210
  • PASSED IT AROUND THE TABLE, AND
  • 00:09:32.210 --> 00:09:34.070
  • SHE SAID, "THIS IS A CORNY THING
  • 00:09:34.070 --> 00:09:36.110
  • THAT WE DO IN OUR FAMILY," SHE
  • 00:09:36.110 --> 00:09:38.020
  • SAID, "BUT I WANNA DO IT."
  • 00:09:38.020 --> 00:09:38.260
  • AND SO EVERYONE
  • 00:09:38.260 --> 00:09:39.210
  • SPOKE A BLESSING,
  • 00:09:39.210 --> 00:09:40.240
  • AND THEY LITERALLY TOOK THEIR
  • 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.060
  • HAND AND ACTED LIKE THEY WERE
  • 00:09:42.060 --> 00:09:43.150
  • PUTTING IT IN THE BOX, AND SO
  • 00:09:43.150 --> 00:09:44.250
  • THEY PASSED IT AROUND THE TABLE.
  • 00:09:44.250 --> 00:09:47.000
  • WHEN I GOT HOME FROM THAT TRIP,
  • 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.050
  • I PUT IT ON THE EDGE OF MY DESK.
  • 00:09:49.050 --> 00:09:51.200
  • AND SO, ONE DAY, I WALKED IN
  • 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:52.240
  • FEELIN' A LITTLE DISCOURAGED.
  • 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.220
  • NOT EVERYTHING HAD GONE MY WAY
  • 00:09:54.220 --> 00:09:55.170
  • THAT DAY.
  • 00:09:55.170 --> 00:09:56.040
  • IT HAD BEEN A TOUGH DAY.
  • 00:09:58.020 --> 00:10:01.020
  • I FELT LIKE, "OH--" LOOKED, AND
  • 00:10:01.020 --> 00:10:01.240
  • THERE WAS THAT BOX SITTING ON
  • 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:02.150
  • THE EDGE OF MY DESK, AND IT
  • 00:10:02.150 --> 00:10:03.250
  • BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES, AND SO I
  • 00:10:03.250 --> 00:10:04.170
  • DID THE CRAZIEST THING.
  • 00:10:04.170 --> 00:10:07.100
  • I WALKED OVER, OPENED THAT BOX
  • 00:10:07.100 --> 00:10:08.180
  • AND LEANED INTO IT AND JUST
  • 00:10:08.180 --> 00:10:10.060
  • IMAGINED THAT NIGHT, ALL THE
  • 00:10:10.060 --> 00:10:12.210
  • BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:10:12.210 --> 00:10:14.030
  • SAID TO ME, AND I JUST OPENED
  • 00:10:14.030 --> 00:10:15.130
  • THAT CHAMBER OF MY HEART AGAIN,
  • 00:10:15.130 --> 00:10:17.000
  • AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:18.140
  • IT CHANGED THE ATMOSPHERE OF MY
  • 00:10:18.140 --> 00:10:20.150
  • MIND, AND IT BEGAN TO CHANGE MY
  • 00:10:20.150 --> 00:10:22.200
  • OUTLOOK, MY PERSPECTIVE ON MY
  • 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.200
  • DAY.
  • 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.000
  • IT REFOCUSED ME-- BECAUSE, ERIC,
  • 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:27.170
  • EVERY DAY WE HAVE THE
  • 00:10:27.170 --> 00:10:29.180
  • OPPORTUNITY TO HIT THE RESET
  • 00:10:29.180 --> 00:10:31.110
  • BUTTON, AND WE HAVE THE CHOICES
  • 00:10:31.110 --> 00:10:33.270
  • TO SAY, "HOW AM I GOING TO LIVE
  • 00:10:33.270 --> 00:10:35.180
  • THIS DAY?"
  • 00:10:35.180 --> 00:10:37.100
  • WE DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IT IN THE
  • 00:10:37.100 --> 00:10:38.160
  • YESTERDAY, BUT WE CAN LIVE IT IN
  • 00:10:38.160 --> 00:10:40.070
  • THE FUTURE AND THE PRESENT.
  • 00:10:40.070 --> 00:10:42.180
  • - ERIC: WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:10:42.180 --> 00:10:43.100
  • THESE ARE SCRIPTURAL COMMANDS.
  • 00:10:43.100 --> 00:10:45.150
  • I MEAN, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHY
  • 00:10:45.150 --> 00:10:46.290
  • DOES THE LORD TELL THE
  • 00:10:46.290 --> 00:10:48.210
  • ISRAELITES OVER AND OVER TO
  • 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:51.240
  • "BUILD A MEMORIAL TO THIS GREAT
  • 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.240
  • THING THAT I DID"?
  • 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.020
  • BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT, IF YOU
  • 00:10:55.020 --> 00:10:56.150
  • DON'T, YOU'LL FORGET.
  • 00:10:56.150 --> 00:10:57.200
  • WHY DOES HE SAY EVERY YEAR,
  • 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.210
  • "CELEBRATE THIS TO REMEMBER
  • 00:10:59.210 --> 00:11:00.150
  • THIS"?
  • 00:11:00.150 --> 00:11:02.230
  • BECAUSE, IF WE DON'T DO THOSE
  • 00:11:02.230 --> 00:11:04.040
  • THINGS INTENTIONALLY, WE
  • 00:11:04.040 --> 00:11:05.040
  • BASICALLY-- WE FORGET.
  • 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.240
  • IT'S OUR NATURE TO FORGET.
  • 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:09.250
  • YOU JUST SAID IT, AND I THINK
  • 00:11:09.250 --> 00:11:11.000
  • THAT IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE,
  • 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.250
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
  • 00:11:12.250 --> 00:11:15.020
  • THE CHURCH CALENDAR, THOSE OF US
  • 00:11:15.020 --> 00:11:16.150
  • WHO ARE MORE LOW CHURCH
  • 00:11:16.150 --> 00:11:18.070
  • PROTESTANT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT,
  • 00:11:18.070 --> 00:11:19.170
  • BUT THERE'S SOMETHING BUILT INTO
  • 00:11:19.170 --> 00:11:22.170
  • THE JEWISH CALENDAR AND BUILT
  • 00:11:22.170 --> 00:11:23.250
  • INTO THE CHURCH CALENDAR WHERE
  • 00:11:23.250 --> 00:11:25.030
  • PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE, I GUESS,
  • 00:11:25.030 --> 00:11:26.110
  • LITURGICAL TRADITIONS, WHERE
  • 00:11:27.020 --> 00:11:30.020
  • THEY HAVE THESE MOMENTS WHERE
  • 00:11:30.020 --> 00:11:32.050
  • THEY REMEMBER THIS AND REMEMBER
  • 00:11:32.050 --> 00:11:33.150
  • THIS AND REMEMBER THIS, AND IF
  • 00:11:33.150 --> 00:11:34.210
  • YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN YOUR
  • 00:11:34.210 --> 00:11:35.220
  • TRADITION, YOU NEED TO BUILD
  • 00:11:35.220 --> 00:11:36.140
  • THAT IN.
  • 00:11:36.140 --> 00:11:37.140
  • YOU NEED TO SAY THAT-- I MEAN,
  • 00:11:37.140 --> 00:11:38.130
  • JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE
  • 00:11:38.130 --> 00:11:39.010
  • BIRTHDAY, BUT YOU NEED TO BUILD
  • 00:11:39.010 --> 00:11:40.150
  • IT IN BECAUSE IT IS OUR NATURE
  • 00:11:40.150 --> 00:11:42.080
  • TO FORGET.
  • 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:43.220
  • WHEN YOU THINK OF THE GLORIOUS,
  • 00:11:43.220 --> 00:11:45.020
  • GLORIOUS THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN
  • 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:46.140
  • ANY OF OUR LIVES, WE KIND OF--
  • 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.200
  • WHEN YOU'RE SORT OF DEPRESSED OR
  • 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:51.120
  • DOWN, YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT IT,
  • 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:52.110
  • AND WE NEED TO, I WOULD SAY,
  • 00:11:52.110 --> 00:11:55.000
  • JUST OBEY THE SCRIPTURE, OBEY
  • 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.050
  • WHAT GOD SAYS.
  • 00:11:57.050 --> 00:11:58.200
  • HE SAYS THAT TO US FOR OUR
  • 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:00.030
  • BLESSING.
  • 00:12:00.030 --> 00:12:01.180
  • - VICTORIA: WELL, THERE'S POWER
  • 00:12:01.180 --> 00:12:02.100
  • WHEN YOU REMEMBER THE RIGHT
  • 00:12:02.100 --> 00:12:03.000
  • THINGS.
  • 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:04.010
  • THERE'S POWER IN THAT
  • 00:12:04.010 --> 00:12:05.100
  • REMEMBERING, AND, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:06.180
  • LIKE TO JUST TAKE IT TO
  • 00:12:06.180 --> 00:12:07.280
  • SOMETHIN' SIMPLE AS LIKE, "WHY
  • 00:12:07.280 --> 00:12:09.130
  • DON'T YOU JUST GET UP EVERY DAY
  • 00:12:09.130 --> 00:12:11.000
  • AND HAVE A GRATITUDE LIST, YOU
  • 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:12.100
  • KNOW?"
  • 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:14.210
  • AND JUST LOOK AT SOME OF THE
  • 00:12:14.210 --> 00:12:15.270
  • THINGS THAT GOD'S DONE.
  • 00:12:15.270 --> 00:12:16.150
  • JUST BE GRATEFUL.
  • 00:12:16.150 --> 00:12:17.160
  • YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT
  • 00:12:17.160 --> 00:12:19.160
  • HE WANTED THEM TO REMEMBER.
  • 00:12:19.160 --> 00:12:22.060
  • HE WANTED THEM TO REMEMBER WHEN
  • 00:12:22.060 --> 00:12:24.040
  • HE PARTED THE RED SEA, WHEN THEY
  • 00:12:24.040 --> 00:12:25.040
  • STRUCK THE ROCK AND WATER CAME
  • 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:27.040
  • OUT, WHEN THE MANNA, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:12:27.040 --> 00:12:27.260
  • CAME FROM HEAVEN.
  • 00:12:28.090 --> 00:12:31.090
  • HE WANTED THEM TO REMEMBER THAT
  • 00:12:31.090 --> 00:12:33.000
  • SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T FORGET THE
  • 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:34.130
  • PRESENCE, HIS PRESENCE IN THEIR
  • 00:12:34.130 --> 00:12:37.040
  • LIFE, AND IF HE DID IT ONCE,
  • 00:12:37.040 --> 00:12:38.180
  • HE'LL DO IT AGAIN.
  • 00:12:38.180 --> 00:12:40.260
  • AND SO I BELIEVE THAT HE WANTS
  • 00:12:40.260 --> 00:12:42.040
  • US TO BUILD THAT UP, AND HE
  • 00:12:42.040 --> 00:12:43.130
  • WANTS US TO PUT THAT IN OUR
  • 00:12:43.130 --> 00:12:45.040
  • MEMORY BOX.
  • 00:12:45.040 --> 00:12:47.020
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS
  • 00:12:47.020 --> 00:12:48.050
  • THIS: I USED TO, ERIC, WHEN
  • 00:12:48.050 --> 00:12:49.190
  • SOMEONE WOULD GIVE ME A
  • 00:12:49.190 --> 00:12:50.180
  • COMPLIMENT, I WOULD KIND OF
  • 00:12:50.180 --> 00:12:52.000
  • BRUSH IT OFF BECAUSE I WOULD
  • 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:53.070
  • THINK, "OH, THEY'RE JUST TRYIN'
  • 00:12:53.070 --> 00:12:54.110
  • TO BE NICE," "THEY DON'T REALLY
  • 00:12:54.110 --> 00:12:55.080
  • MEAN THAT," UNTIL ONE DAY I
  • 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:56.000
  • REALIZED THAT'S NOT DOING ME ANY
  • 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.170
  • GOOD, AND IT'S REALLY VERY
  • 00:12:58.170 --> 00:13:00.220
  • DISRESPECTFUL TO THE OTHER
  • 00:13:00.220 --> 00:13:01.150
  • PERSON EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T
  • 00:13:01.150 --> 00:13:02.220
  • KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING,
  • 00:13:02.220 --> 00:13:04.190
  • AND IT WAS AS IF I HAD AN
  • 00:13:04.190 --> 00:13:06.040
  • IMPRESSION IN MY HEART THAT THE
  • 00:13:06.040 --> 00:13:07.220
  • LORD SAID TO ME, "WHY DON'T YOU
  • 00:13:07.220 --> 00:13:09.040
  • TAKE THAT COMPLIMENT AS IF IT'S
  • 00:13:09.040 --> 00:13:10.050
  • COMING FROM ME?"
  • 00:13:10.050 --> 00:13:12.150
  • WHEN PEOPLE COMPLIMENT ME, I
  • 00:13:16.090 --> 00:13:17.120
  • SAY, "THANK YOU," TO THEM AND
  • 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:18.240
  • GIVE THEM THE RESPECT THAT IS
  • 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.020
  • DUE THEM, AND IN MY HEART, I
  • 00:13:20.020 --> 00:13:21.090
  • SAY, "THANK YOU, LORD.
  • 00:13:21.090 --> 00:13:23.050
  • - ERIC: WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY
  • 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.110
  • RIGHT, AND I THINK THE FACT IS
  • 00:13:26.110 --> 00:13:27.210
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, WE FALSELY SAY,
  • 00:13:27.210 --> 00:13:29.100
  • "OH, I DON'T WANT IT TO GO TO MY
  • 00:13:29.100 --> 00:13:30.020
  • HEAD."
  • 00:13:30.020 --> 00:13:30.170
  • WELL, JUST AS IT COULD GO
  • 00:13:30.170 --> 00:13:32.070
  • TO YOUR HEAD AND YOU COULD
  • 00:13:32.070 --> 00:13:33.110
  • RECEIVE IT IN THE WRONG WAY,
  • 00:13:33.110 --> 00:13:35.030
  • BRUSHING IT OFF IS ALSO WRONG
  • 00:13:35.030 --> 00:13:36.120
  • AND THAT WE HAVE TO RECEIVE IT
  • 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:37.200
  • AS FROM THE LORD AND AS UNTO THE
  • 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.170
  • LORD, AND I'M SAYING, "THANK
  • 00:13:39.170 --> 00:13:40.260
  • YOU, JESUS, FOR PUTTING SOMEBODY
  • 00:13:40.260 --> 00:13:42.190
  • IN MY LIFE TO SAY SUCH A NICE
  • 00:13:42.190 --> 00:13:43.220
  • THING TO ME.
  • 00:13:43.220 --> 00:13:44.280
  • THANK YOU, LORD, FOR GIVING ME
  • 00:13:44.280 --> 00:13:45.210
  • SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO
  • 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:46.250
  • COMPLIMENT."
  • 00:13:46.250 --> 00:13:48.170
  • VICTORIA, I'M SORRY
  • 00:13:48.170 --> 00:13:49.030
  • WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
  • 00:13:49.030 --> 00:13:49.180
  • WHAT A JOY TO HAVE YOU.
  • 00:13:49.180 --> 00:13:50.180
  • THANKS FOR BEING MY GUEST ON
  • 00:13:50.180 --> 00:13:51.080
  • "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
  • 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:53.180
  • - VICTORIA: WELL, IT'S BEEN MY
  • 00:13:53.180 --> 00:13:54.100
  • PLEASURE.
  • 00:13:54.100 --> 00:13:54.210
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:13:54.210 --> 00:13:55.030
  • IT WAS SO MUCH FUN TALKIN' TO
  • 00:13:55.030 --> 00:13:55.240
  • YOU.
  • 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.020
  • - ERIC: WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.
  • 00:13:56.020 --> 00:13:56.220
  • - ERIC: FOLKS, IF YOU KNOW
  • 00:14:07.070 --> 00:14:07.290
  • THIS SHOW, IT'S
  • 00:14:07.290 --> 00:14:09.110
  • "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
  • 00:14:09.210 --> 00:14:12.210
  • IT'S THE SHOW ABOUT EVERYTHING,
  • 00:14:12.210 --> 00:14:14.030
  • AND IT DAWNED ON ME THAT
  • 00:14:14.030 --> 00:14:14.230
  • A LOT OF STUFF WILL FALL.
  • 00:14:20.020 --> 00:14:21.010
  • FOR EXAMPLE, MUSIC FALLS UNDER
  • 00:14:21.010 --> 00:14:22.000
  • THE RUBRIC OF EVERYTHING, SO I
  • 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:22.240
  • THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME
  • 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:23.230
  • MUSICIANS IN HERE, BUT A LOT OF
  • 00:14:23.230 --> 00:14:24.150
  • THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY STAY OUT
  • 00:14:24.150 --> 00:14:26.070
  • LATE.
  • 00:14:26.070 --> 00:14:26.240
  • I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BRINGING
  • 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.230
  • THOSE PEOPLE ON MY SHOW.
  • 00:14:29.030 --> 00:14:32.030
  • BUT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A GUY.
  • 00:14:32.030 --> 00:14:32.250
  • HIS NAME IS
  • 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:33.260
  • STEVEN CURTIS CHAPMAN.
  • 00:14:33.260 --> 00:14:34.280
  • YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF HIM,
  • 00:14:34.280 --> 00:14:35.180
  • AND HE'S RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:14:35.180 --> 00:14:37.040
  • STEVEN CURTIS CHAPMAN, WELCOME
  • 00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:37.250
  • TO THE PROGRAM.
  • 00:14:37.250 --> 00:14:38.090
  • [SHOUTING]
  • 00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:38.210
  • - STEVEN: WHAT'S UP!
  • 00:14:38.210 --> 00:14:39.140
  • ERIC METAXAS, SO GOOD TO BE
  • 00:14:39.140 --> 00:14:40.130
  • WITH YOU.
  • 00:14:40.130 --> 00:14:41.110
  • - ERIC: I WAS LOOKIN' FOR A
  • 00:14:41.110 --> 00:14:42.050
  • WHOLESOME MUSICIAN, NOT ONE OF
  • 00:14:42.050 --> 00:14:42.260
  • THESE JAZZ MUSICIANS THAT--
  • 00:14:42.260 --> 00:14:44.030
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:14:44.030 --> 00:14:45.000
  • - STEVEN: YEAH.
  • 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:45.270
  • - ERIC: THEY'RE JUST STRUNG OUT
  • 00:14:45.270 --> 00:14:46.190
  • ON-- I DON'T WANT THAT ON MY
  • 00:14:46.190 --> 00:14:47.090
  • SHOW--
  • 00:14:47.090 --> 00:14:48.030
  • > STEVEN: COFFEE IS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:14:48.030 --> 00:14:49.290
  • THAT IS AS CRAZY AS I GET.
  • 00:14:49.290 --> 00:14:50.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:50.280 --> 00:14:53.020
  • OKAY, MAYBE A LITTLE CRAZY HERE.
  • 00:14:53.020 --> 00:14:54.150
  • - ERIC: COFFEE CAN BE CRAZY.
  • 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:56.050
  • - STEVEN: YEAH.
  • 00:14:56.050 --> 00:14:57.040
  • - ERIC: I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR A
  • 00:14:57.040 --> 00:14:57.250
  • WHILE, BUT YOU'RE ONE OF THESE
  • 00:14:57.250 --> 00:14:58.160
  • PEOPLE, LIKE, I HAVE TO ACTUALLY
  • 00:14:58.160 --> 00:14:59.230
  • THINK BACK WHEN WE MET.
  • 00:14:59.230 --> 00:15:00.260
  • I THINK WE MET AT THE MOHONK
  • 00:15:00.260 --> 00:15:02.260
  • MOUNTAIN HOUSE, LIKE, IN, YOU
  • 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:06.080
  • KNOW, AT A NEW CANAAN SOCIETY
  • 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:07.250
  • EVENT OR SOMETHIN', I THINK,
  • 00:15:07.250 --> 00:15:09.010
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:15:09.010 --> 00:15:09.160
  • - ERIC: AM I MAKIN' THAT UP?
  • 00:15:11.040 --> 00:15:11.250
  • - STEVEN: NO, THAT'S CRAZY.
  • 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:12.150
  • THE FIRST TIME I REMEMBER REALLY
  • 00:15:12.150 --> 00:15:15.070
  • MEETING YOU, LIKE, IN EARNEST
  • 00:15:15.070 --> 00:15:15.280
  • AND HAVIN' A CONVERSATION WAS AT
  • 00:15:15.280 --> 00:15:16.200
  • THE WHITE HOUSE.
  • 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.000
  • - ERIC: AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
  • 00:15:20.140 --> 00:15:21.040
  • WE'RE SUCH BIG SHOTS NOW--
  • 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:21.230
  • - STEVEN: WE ARE, YEAH.
  • 00:15:21.230 --> 00:15:22.110
  • - ERIC: -- THAT WE GET TO SAY,
  • 00:15:22.110 --> 00:15:23.030
  • LIKE--
  • 00:15:23.030 --> 00:15:23.140
  • - STEVEN: "YEAH, WE WERE AT THE
  • 00:15:23.140 --> 00:15:24.060
  • WHITE HOUSE,"
  • 00:15:24.060 --> 00:15:24.190
  • - ERIC: WHERE WAS IT?
  • 00:15:24.190 --> 00:15:25.060
  • WAS IT AT JOHNNY CARSON'S POOL
  • 00:15:25.060 --> 00:15:25.270
  • PARTY?
  • 00:15:25.270 --> 00:15:26.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:15:26.060 --> 00:15:26.170
  • OR WAS IT AT THE WHITE--
  • 00:15:26.170 --> 00:15:27.050
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:15:27.050 --> 00:15:27.200
  • IT WAS AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
  • 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:28.090
  • - STEVEN: I WANNA SAY THE
  • 00:15:28.090 --> 00:15:29.000
  • WHITE HOUSE, OKAY?
  • 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:29.150
  • THAT DID SOUND A LITTLE LIKE
  • 00:15:29.150 --> 00:15:30.160
  • WE'RE DROPPIN' SOME NAMES.
  • 00:15:30.160 --> 00:15:31.050
  • - ERIC: SAMMY DAVIS WAS
  • 00:15:31.050 --> 00:15:31.230
  • PERFORMING, AND WE WERE IN THE
  • 00:15:31.230 --> 00:15:32.140
  • BACK.
  • 00:15:32.140 --> 00:15:33.020
  • - STEVEN: RIGHT, YEAH.
  • 00:15:33.020 --> 00:15:34.140
  • - ERIC: I REMEMBER THAT NOW,
  • 00:15:34.140 --> 00:15:35.050
  • YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:15:35.050 --> 00:15:37.190
  • WE GOTTA GO BACK TO THE
  • 00:15:37.190 --> 00:15:38.200
  • BEGINNING.
  • 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:39.060
  • HOW DID YOU BECOME A SINGER, A
  • 00:15:40.090 --> 00:15:43.090
  • SONGWRITER, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, A
  • 00:15:43.090 --> 00:15:45.020
  • GOSPEL LEGEND THAT GETS TO
  • 00:15:45.190 --> 00:15:48.190
  • PERFORM AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND
  • 00:15:48.190 --> 00:15:50.070
  • STUFF?
  • 00:15:50.070 --> 00:15:50.190
  • HOW DID IT ALL START, MY FRIEND?
  • 00:15:50.190 --> 00:15:52.010
  • WHERE DO YOU START?
  • 00:15:52.010 --> 00:15:52.170
  • - STEVEN: IT ALL BEGAN IN A
  • 00:15:52.170 --> 00:15:55.150
  • SMALL TOWN IN WESTERN KENTUCKY,
  • 00:15:55.150 --> 00:15:56.210
  • PADUCAH, KENTUCKY, HALFWAY--
  • 00:15:56.210 --> 00:15:58.040
  • - ERIC: YOU'RE NOT JUST MAKIN'
  • 00:15:58.040 --> 00:15:59.080
  • THIS UP TO SOUND COLORFUL?
  • 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:00.140
  • - STEVEN: NO, HEY, THIS IS--
  • 00:16:00.140 --> 00:16:01.100
  • - ERIC: THIS IS REAL?
  • 00:16:01.100 --> 00:16:02.020
  • - STEVEN: THIS IS REAL.
  • 00:16:02.020 --> 00:16:02.200
  • "THIS IS HISTORY," AS YOU LIKE
  • 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.080
  • TO SAY, "HAPPENING."
  • 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:05.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:05.140
  • - ERIC: PADUCAH.
  • 00:16:05.140 --> 00:16:06.080
  • - STEVEN: HALFWAY BETWEEN
  • 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:06.270
  • POSSUM TROT AND MONKEY'S
  • 00:16:06.270 --> 00:16:07.280
  • EYEBROW.
  • 00:16:07.280 --> 00:16:09.020
  • THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM.
  • 00:16:09.020 --> 00:16:09.240
  • - ERIC: ALL RIGHT NOW, YOU
  • 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.040
  • GOTTA STOP.
  • 00:16:11.040 --> 00:16:11.180
  • - STEVEN: THAT IS TRUE, NO.
  • 00:16:11.180 --> 00:16:12.080
  • - ERIC: YOU GOTTA STOP JOKIN'
  • 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:12.290
  • AROUND.
  • 00:16:12.290 --> 00:16:13.090
  • THIS IS SERIOUS.
  • 00:16:13.090 --> 00:16:13.230
  • WE DON'T JOKE AROUND.
  • 00:16:13.230 --> 00:16:14.100
  • SAY THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I WANNA
  • 00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:15.010
  • MAKE SURE I GET THIS: PADUCAH.
  • 00:16:15.010 --> 00:16:16.120
  • - STEVEN: IT'S TRUE.
  • 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:17.210
  • HALFWAY BETWEEN POSSUM TROT AND
  • 00:16:17.210 --> 00:16:19.200
  • MONKEY'S EYEBROW, KENTUCKY, TWO
  • 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.160
  • REAL TOWNS.
  • 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.200
  • THEY ACTUALLY-- IT'S POSSUM TROT
  • 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:25.230
  • AND MONKEY'S EYEBROW.
  • 00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:27.050
  • THOSE ARE ON EITHER SIDE, SO IF
  • 00:16:27.050 --> 00:16:27.270
  • YOU FIND THOSE ON THE MAP,
  • 00:16:27.270 --> 00:16:30.230
  • YOU'VE DONE SOMETHIN', AND THEN
  • 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:33.030
  • YOU GO TO THE MIDDLE OF THOSE
  • 00:16:33.030 --> 00:16:34.290
  • TWO TOWNS, YOU WILL FIND WHERE I
  • 00:16:34.290 --> 00:16:36.030
  • COME FROM, SO THAT TELLS YA
  • 00:16:36.030 --> 00:16:37.190
  • SOMETHIN' ABOUT IT.
  • 00:16:37.190 --> 00:16:38.270
  • - ERIC: NOW, YOU'RE SUCH A
  • 00:16:38.270 --> 00:16:39.170
  • SWEET GUY.
  • 00:16:39.170 --> 00:16:39.280
  • YOU'RE NOT PUTTIN' ME ON?
  • 00:16:39.280 --> 00:16:40.170
  • - STEVEN: I PROMISE.
  • 00:16:40.170 --> 00:16:41.060
  • - ERIC: YOU'RE NOT PLAYIN' WITH
  • 00:16:41.060 --> 00:16:42.070
  • OUR HEADS?
  • 00:16:42.070 --> 00:16:42.220
  • - STEVEN: I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE
  • 00:16:42.220 --> 00:16:44.040
  • MAP.
  • 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:45.000
  • YOU WON'T FIND A LOT IN POSSUM
  • 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:46.220
  • TROT OR MONKEY'S EYEBROW.
  • 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:47.170
  • - ERIC: HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A
  • 00:16:47.170 --> 00:16:49.070
  • POSSUM TROT?
  • 00:16:49.070 --> 00:16:49.290
  • - STEVEN: YES, LOTS.
  • 00:16:49.290 --> 00:16:51.120
  • - ERIC: IT'S NOT PRETTY?
  • 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:53.010 --> 00:16:53.210
  • - STEVEN: IT'S NOT SOMETHIN'
  • 00:16:53.210 --> 00:16:54.160
  • YOU WANNA-- YEAH, YOU CAN'T
  • 00:16:54.160 --> 00:16:55.290
  • UN-SEE IT ONCE YOU'VE SEEN IT,
  • 00:16:55.290 --> 00:16:56.280
  • BUT IT'S-- [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:56.280 --> 00:16:58.100
  • -- IT'S STUCK THERE.
  • 00:16:58.100 --> 00:16:59.000
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU GREW UP IN
  • 00:16:59.000 --> 00:16:59.220
  • PADUCAH.
  • 00:16:59.220 --> 00:17:00.160
  • I MEAN, COMPARED TO THOSE TWO
  • 00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:01.070
  • THINGS, PADUCAH SOUNDS LIKE
  • 00:17:01.070 --> 00:17:02.160
  • MANHATTAN, NEW YORK CITY, RIGHT?
  • 00:17:02.160 --> 00:17:04.230
  • - STEVEN: PRETTY NORMAL, YEAH.
  • 00:17:04.280 --> 00:17:07.280
  • IT'S THE BIG, BOOMING
  • 00:17:07.280 --> 00:17:09.180
  • METROPOLIS.
  • 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:10.080
  • - ERIC: NOW, DID YOU GROW UP IN
  • 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:11.000
  • A CHRISTIAN ENVIRONMENT?
  • 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.010
  • - STEVEN: SO I GREW UP IN A
  • 00:17:12.010 --> 00:17:13.090
  • HOME WITH A LOT OF MUSIC.
  • 00:17:13.090 --> 00:17:15.210
  • MY DAD STILL PLAYS MUSIC AND
  • 00:17:15.210 --> 00:17:18.090
  • TEACHES GUITAR LESSONS; HAS A
  • 00:17:18.090 --> 00:17:21.020
  • LITTLE MUSIC STORE IN PADUCAH,
  • 00:17:21.020 --> 00:17:22.010
  • CALLED CHAPMAN MUSIC.
  • 00:17:22.010 --> 00:17:23.160
  • MY DAD WILL BE 80 YEARS OLD IN
  • 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:25.000
  • JUNE.
  • 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:25.290
  • HE STILL TEACHES GUITAR LESSONS
  • 00:17:25.290 --> 00:17:26.210
  • EVERY DAY.
  • 00:17:26.210 --> 00:17:27.080
  • YOU CAN FIND HIM AT CHAPMAN
  • 00:17:27.080 --> 00:17:28.120
  • MUSIC.
  • 00:17:28.120 --> 00:17:29.060
  • STOP BY AND SAY, "HI," TO HERB
  • 00:17:29.060 --> 00:17:30.130
  • CHAPMAN, MY PAPA, IF YOU'RE IN
  • 00:17:30.130 --> 00:17:31.140
  • PADUCAH.
  • 00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:33.130
  • SO HE PLAYED MUSIC.
  • 00:17:33.130 --> 00:17:35.010
  • GROWIN' UP, MY EARLIEST MEMORIES
  • 00:17:35.010 --> 00:17:36.230
  • ARE BLUEGRASS FOLK MUSIC.
  • 00:17:36.230 --> 00:17:38.290
  • OF COURSE, GROWIN' UP IN
  • 00:17:38.290 --> 00:17:41.030
  • KENTUCKY, THAT'S THE KIND OF
  • 00:17:41.030 --> 00:17:42.070
  • MUSIC THAT MY DAD PLAYED, AND
  • 00:17:42.070 --> 00:17:44.140
  • I--
  • 00:17:44.140 --> 00:17:46.010
  • - ERIC: THAT'S YOUR EARLIEST
  • 00:17:46.010 --> 00:17:46.230
  • MEMORY?
  • 00:17:46.230 --> 00:17:48.040
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, IT REALLY IS
  • 00:17:48.040 --> 00:17:48.250
  • MUSIC.
  • 00:17:48.250 --> 00:17:49.050
  • SIX YEARS OLD, I GET MY FIRST
  • 00:17:49.050 --> 00:17:51.170
  • GUITAR.
  • 00:17:51.170 --> 00:17:52.030
  • MY DAD SETS ME DOWN, TEACHES ME
  • 00:17:52.030 --> 00:17:53.200
  • "FOLSOM PRISON BLUES," JOHNNY
  • 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.080
  • CASH SONG.
  • 00:17:55.080 --> 00:17:56.120
  • FIRST SONG I LEARNED ON THE
  • 00:17:56.120 --> 00:17:57.080
  • GUITAR.
  • 00:17:57.080 --> 00:17:57.210
  • - ERIC: WOW.
  • 00:17:57.210 --> 00:17:58.060
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:17:58.060 --> 00:18:00.270
  • I'M SINGIN' ABOUT SHOOTIN' A MAN
  • 00:18:00.270 --> 00:18:01.190
  • IN RENO, JUST TO, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:18:01.190 --> 00:18:02.260
  • WATCH HIM DIE AND ALL THAT.
  • 00:18:02.260 --> 00:18:04.050
  • - ERIC: JUST TO WATCH HIM DIE.
  • 00:18:04.050 --> 00:18:05.060
  • AND THAT'S WHAT TOOK YOU TO THE
  • 00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:05.280
  • DARK SIDE?
  • 00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:06.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:07.100
  • - STEVEN: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:07.100 --> 00:18:08.040
  • - ERIC: I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A
  • 00:18:08.040 --> 00:18:08.260
  • DARK SEASON IN YOUR LIFE--
  • 00:18:08.260 --> 00:18:09.170
  • - STEVEN: YES, THERE IT IS.
  • 00:18:09.170 --> 00:18:10.200
  • - ERIC: -- BETWEEN THE AGES OF
  • 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.120
  • SIX AND SEVEN--
  • 00:18:11.120 --> 00:18:12.010
  • - STEVEN: THAT WAS IT.
  • 00:18:12.010 --> 00:18:12.190
  • - ERIC: -- WHERE YOU DID SOME
  • 00:18:12.190 --> 00:18:13.100
  • BAD THINGS WE DON'T WANNA TALK
  • 00:18:13.100 --> 00:18:14.010
  • ABOUT ON THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:18:14.010 --> 00:18:14.180
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:18:14.180 --> 00:18:15.050
  • - ERIC: YOU KILLED SOME PEOPLE.
  • 00:18:15.050 --> 00:18:15.270
  • MAN, THAT'S JUST NOT-- THAT'S
  • 00:18:15.270 --> 00:18:16.200
  • WHAT GRACE IS ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:18.060
  • - STEVEN: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:18.060 --> 00:18:19.040
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU WENT
  • 00:18:19.040 --> 00:18:20.090
  • THROUGH A DARK PERIOD AT AGE
  • 00:18:20.090 --> 00:18:21.030
  • SIX.
  • 00:18:21.030 --> 00:18:21.240
  • - STEVEN: YES, YEAH, ME AND
  • 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:22.190
  • JOHNNY CASH AND--BUT,
  • 00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:24.140
  • THANKFULLY, AROUND SEVEN, WE
  • 00:18:24.230 --> 00:18:27.230
  • STARTED TO SING BILL GAITHER
  • 00:18:27.230 --> 00:18:28.270
  • SONGS AND LEARNED--
  • 00:18:28.270 --> 00:18:29.190
  • - ERIC: OOH.
  • 00:18:29.190 --> 00:18:30.230
  • - STEVEN: -- YEAH, "HE TOUCHED
  • 00:18:30.230 --> 00:18:31.150
  • ME."
  • 00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:32.080
  • NO, SO WE GREW UP-- I GREW
  • 00:18:32.080 --> 00:18:33.130
  • UP.
  • 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:34.170
  • MY DAD PLAYED MUSIC ON THE
  • 00:18:34.170 --> 00:18:36.070
  • WEEKENDS.
  • 00:18:36.070 --> 00:18:36.270
  • MOM TOOK ME AND MY BROTHER TO
  • 00:18:36.270 --> 00:18:38.100
  • CHURCH, AND DAD WAS SLEEPIN' ON
  • 00:18:38.100 --> 00:18:39.200
  • SUNDAY MORNING 'CAUSE HE WAS OUT
  • 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.130
  • PLAYIN' MUSIC LATE SATURDAY
  • 00:18:41.130 --> 00:18:42.270
  • NIGHT.
  • 00:18:42.270 --> 00:18:43.150
  • HAD A DREAM OF PLAYING ON THE
  • 00:18:43.150 --> 00:18:44.280
  • GRAND OLE OPRY.
  • 00:18:44.280 --> 00:18:45.150
  • HE HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES,
  • 00:18:45.150 --> 00:18:47.160
  • ACTUALLY.
  • 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.100
  • HE WAS QUITE GOOD AND HAD SOME
  • 00:18:49.100 --> 00:18:50.030
  • PEOPLE INTERESTED, BUT IN THE
  • 00:18:50.030 --> 00:18:52.000
  • PROCESS OF HIM PURSUING THAT,
  • 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.190
  • AROUND THE TIME WHEN I WAS
  • 00:18:53.190 --> 00:18:55.280
  • SEVEN, WE HAD A REVIVAL COME
  • 00:18:56.020 --> 00:18:59.020
  • THROUGH OUR LITTLE PADUCAH.
  • 00:18:59.020 --> 00:19:01.020
  • OUR WHOLE CHURCH--
  • 00:19:01.020 --> 00:19:01.240
  • - ERIC: NOW, NO JOKE.
  • 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:02.150
  • I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:19:02.150 --> 00:19:03.070
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, YEAH, AND THIS
  • 00:19:03.070 --> 00:19:05.000
  • IS WHERE MY DAD, AS A RESULT OF,
  • 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.010
  • KIND OF, THIS WEEKLONG SERVICES
  • 00:19:07.010 --> 00:19:08.260
  • AT OUR CHURCH, OLIVET BAPTIST
  • 00:19:08.260 --> 00:19:11.220
  • CHURCH, AT THE END OF THAT
  • 00:19:11.220 --> 00:19:13.050
  • WEEK-- I WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD.
  • 00:19:13.050 --> 00:19:14.100
  • I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF WHAT WAS
  • 00:19:14.100 --> 00:19:15.080
  • HAPPENING.
  • 00:19:15.080 --> 00:19:15.290
  • I JUST SAW A TRANSFORMATION
  • 00:19:15.290 --> 00:19:17.100
  • START TO HAPPEN IN MY HOME, AND
  • 00:19:17.100 --> 00:19:18.160
  • I BEGAN TO SEE, JUST, THE POWER
  • 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.090
  • OF PRAYER AND THE POWER OF, YOU
  • 00:19:20.090 --> 00:19:21.220
  • KNOW, OF, JUST, CALLIN' OUT TO
  • 00:19:21.220 --> 00:19:24.120
  • GOD, SAYIN', "HELP ME," IN A
  • 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:26.110
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:19:26.110 --> 00:19:27.040
  • IT WAS A RELATIONSHIP THAT I
  • 00:19:27.040 --> 00:19:28.130
  • BEGAN TO SEE MODELED FOR ME WITH
  • 00:19:28.130 --> 00:19:30.120
  • MY PARENTS, AND SO, AS SEVERAL
  • 00:19:30.120 --> 00:19:32.080
  • MONTHS WENT BY, AND THEN I-- IT
  • 00:19:32.080 --> 00:19:35.010
  • WAS VERY-- I REMEMBER IT VERY
  • 00:19:35.010 --> 00:19:36.200
  • CLEARLY, SITTIN' IN CHURCH,
  • 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.030
  • OLIVET BAPTIST CHURCH, LISTENING
  • 00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:40.280
  • TO BROTHER DAVID, OUR PREACHER,
  • 00:19:40.280 --> 00:19:42.180
  • QUOTE FROM REVELATION, AND HE
  • 00:19:42.180 --> 00:19:45.120
  • SAID, "JESUS SAYS, 'BEHOLD, I
  • 00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:46.250
  • STAND AT THE DOOR AND KNOCK, AND
  • 00:19:46.250 --> 00:19:48.180
  • IF ANYONE WILL OPEN THE DOOR, I
  • 00:19:48.180 --> 00:19:49.250
  • WILL COME IN.'"
  • 00:19:49.250 --> 00:19:50.120
  • AS SOON AS HE SAID THAT,
  • 00:19:50.120 --> 00:19:51.040
  • I REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY
  • 00:19:51.040 --> 00:19:53.070
  • HEARING-- FEELING MY
  • 00:19:53.070 --> 00:19:53.250
  • HEART BEGAN TO BEAT.
  • 00:19:53.250 --> 00:19:56.210
  • I COULD, LIKE, HEAR JESUS
  • 00:19:56.210 --> 00:19:57.190
  • KNOCKING AT THE DOOR OF MY
  • 00:19:57.190 --> 00:19:58.080
  • HEART.
  • 00:19:58.080 --> 00:19:58.240
  • IT WAS VERY CLEAR.
  • 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:00.120
  • SO THAT'S WHEN MY FAITH JOURNEY
  • 00:20:00.120 --> 00:20:01.280
  • BEGAN AS A EIGHT-YEAR-OLD BOY.
  • 00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:03.260
  • - ERIC: BUT, SEE, I LOVE
  • 00:20:03.260 --> 00:20:04.150
  • HEARING THESE STORIES BECAUSE
  • 00:20:04.150 --> 00:20:05.100
  • YOU CAN'T MAKE IT UP, RIGHT?
  • 00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:06.160
  • I MEAN, YOU'RE EIGHT.
  • 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:07.130
  • IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE LABORING
  • 00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:08.260
  • UNDER A LOAD OF SIN.
  • 00:20:08.260 --> 00:20:10.210
  • YOU'RE EIGHT, AND, YET YOU STILL
  • 00:20:10.210 --> 00:20:12.010
  • KNEW THAT YOU NEEDED JESUS.
  • 00:20:12.010 --> 00:20:13.170
  • I MEAN, THAT'S-- YOU KNOW, WE
  • 00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:16.110
  • ALL HOPE THAT THAT'S EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:20:16.190 --> 00:20:19.190
  • STORY.
  • 00:20:19.190 --> 00:20:21.030
  • A LOT OF US, YOU NOW, WE HAVE TO
  • 00:20:21.030 --> 00:20:22.000
  • GO THROUGH A LOT OF JUNK BEFORE
  • 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:22.220
  • WE GET TO THAT, BUT THAT'S SO
  • 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:26.000
  • BEAUTIFUL, AND SO, AT WHAT POINT
  • 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:27.070
  • DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU WANNA
  • 00:20:27.070 --> 00:20:28.190
  • PURSUE MUSIC?
  • 00:20:28.190 --> 00:20:30.210
  • - STEVEN: WELL, I STARTED
  • 00:20:30.210 --> 00:20:32.140
  • PLAYIN' MUSIC-- I STARTED
  • 00:20:32.140 --> 00:20:33.090
  • SINGIN' WITH MY FAMILY.
  • 00:20:33.090 --> 00:20:34.110
  • WE STARTED SINGIN' TOGETHER IN
  • 00:20:34.110 --> 00:20:35.210
  • CHURCH, THE CHAPMAN FAMILY
  • 00:20:35.210 --> 00:20:36.190
  • SINGERS, MY DAD AND MY MOM AND
  • 00:20:36.190 --> 00:20:38.220
  • MY BROTHER, AND ME, AND, JUST,
  • 00:20:38.220 --> 00:20:40.010
  • AWESOME.
  • 00:20:40.010 --> 00:20:41.220
  • WE STARTED LEARNIN', AS I SAID,
  • 00:20:41.220 --> 00:20:42.270
  • BILL GAITHER SONGS, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:20:42.270 --> 00:20:44.030
  • - ERIC: IS THAT RIGHT?
  • 00:20:44.030 --> 00:20:45.080
  • - STEVEN: FAST FORWARD, I END
  • 00:20:45.080 --> 00:20:45.290
  • UP SINGING WITH MY BROTHER,
  • 00:20:45.290 --> 00:20:46.280
  • GROWIN' UP; SINGIN' WITH MY
  • 00:20:46.280 --> 00:20:48.060
  • OLDER BROTHER, GROWIN' UP.
  • 00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:48.260
  • HE WAS THE SINGER.
  • 00:20:48.260 --> 00:20:50.070
  • I WAS THE GUITAR PLAYER,
  • 00:20:50.070 --> 00:20:50.290
  • ACCOMPANIST, BASICALLY, HIS
  • 00:20:50.290 --> 00:20:52.170
  • BACKUP GUY 'CAUSE HE HAD THE
  • 00:20:52.170 --> 00:20:54.070
  • VOICE.
  • 00:20:54.070 --> 00:20:54.230
  • HE HAD MY DAD'S-- HE GOT THE
  • 00:20:54.230 --> 00:20:56.000
  • GOLDEN PIPES FROM MY DAD, AND SO
  • 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:57.110
  • I GOT THE GUITAR, AND SO, FAST
  • 00:20:57.110 --> 00:20:58.240
  • FORWARD, I GO-- MY BROTHER AND I
  • 00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:02.010
  • GET HIRED TO WORK IN NASHVILLE.
  • 00:21:02.010 --> 00:21:04.130
  • WE USED TO HAVE AN AMUSEMENT
  • 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.240
  • PARK THERE CALLED OPRYLAND USA.
  • 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.090
  • IT WAS BUILT AROUND THE GRAND
  • 00:21:09.090 --> 00:21:10.000
  • I'M 19 YEARS OLD; GET HIRED TO
  • 00:21:13.280 --> 00:21:14.190
  • SPEND THE SUMMER WORKING IN A
  • 00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:15.130
  • COUNTRY MUSIC SHOW, SINGING THE
  • 00:21:15.130 --> 00:21:17.120
  • HITS OF, YOU KNOW, COUNTRY-MUSIC
  • 00:21:17.120 --> 00:21:19.230
  • AND ALL OF THAT, WITH MY
  • 00:21:22.270 --> 00:21:23.150
  • BROTHER.
  • 00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:24.020
  • - ERIC: THAT KIND OF SOUNDS
  • 00:21:24.020 --> 00:21:24.220
  • LIKE FUN.
  • 00:21:24.220 --> 00:21:25.030
  • - STEVEN: IT WAS A LOT OF FUN,
  • 00:21:25.030 --> 00:21:25.250
  • YEAH.
  • 00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:26.040
  • IT WAS REALLY COOL.
  • 00:21:26.040 --> 00:21:26.200
  • IT'S CALLED COUNTRY MUSIC USA,
  • 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:27.110
  • AND I WOULD STEP UP TO THE MIC
  • 00:21:27.110 --> 00:21:29.090
  • AND SING GEORGE JONES--
  • 00:21:29.090 --> 00:21:31.150
  • [STEVEN SINGING]
  • 00:21:31.150 --> 00:21:32.060
  • "HE STOPPED LOVIN' HER
  • 00:21:32.060 --> 00:21:32.260
  • TODAY"
  • 00:21:32.260 --> 00:21:34.100
  • - STEVEN: THAT WAS MY SONG, AND
  • 00:21:34.100 --> 00:21:35.020
  • THEN I'D SING RICKY SKAGGS.
  • 00:21:35.020 --> 00:21:36.060
  • I'D SING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE
  • 00:21:36.060 --> 00:21:38.030
  • GREATS, ALL THE OLD-- YOU KNOW.
  • 00:21:38.030 --> 00:21:39.190
  • - ERIC: HOW DO YOU TRANSITION
  • 00:21:39.190 --> 00:21:40.220
  • FROM THAT TO DOING YOUR OWN
  • 00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:43.150
  • STUFF AND HAVING THAT KIND OF
  • 00:21:43.150 --> 00:21:45.020
  • CAREER THAT YOU HAVE NOW?
  • 00:21:45.020 --> 00:21:45.260
  • - STEVEN: WELL, I WAS WRITING A
  • 00:21:45.260 --> 00:21:47.070
  • LOT OF SONGS.
  • 00:21:47.070 --> 00:21:48.190
  • I DID NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE
  • 00:21:48.190 --> 00:21:51.170
  • VOICE.
  • 00:21:51.170 --> 00:21:52.020
  • THIS WAS AT THE TIME IN--
  • 00:21:52.020 --> 00:21:53.260
  • ESPECIALLY IN CHRISTIAN MUSIC
  • 00:21:53.260 --> 00:21:56.150
  • WHEN THE VOICES WERE
  • 00:21:56.150 --> 00:21:57.010
  • SANDI PATTY,
  • 00:21:57.010 --> 00:21:58.010
  • LARNELLE HARRIS, STEVE GREEN.
  • 00:21:58.010 --> 00:21:59.000
  • THESE WERE THE BIG POWER VOICES.
  • 00:21:59.000 --> 00:21:59.260
  • RUSS TAFF WAS THE ROCK--
  • 00:21:59.260 --> 00:22:02.030
  • YOU KNOW, THE ROCK VOICE,
  • 00:22:02.030 --> 00:22:03.020
  • AND SO YOU HAD THESE
  • 00:22:03.020 --> 00:22:05.290
  • GREAT VOICES, AND I
  • 00:22:05.290 --> 00:22:06.190
  • KIND OF HAD THIS
  • 00:22:06.190 --> 00:22:07.210
  • SINGER-SONGWRITER THING GOIN',
  • 00:22:07.210 --> 00:22:09.130
  • WRITING SONGS FOR OTHER ARTISTS
  • 00:22:09.130 --> 00:22:11.060
  • AND NOT REALLY KNOWIN' THAT I
  • 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.240
  • WOULD EVEN-- IF I WOULD GET AN
  • 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:15.160
  • OPPORTUNITY TO RECORD MY OWN
  • 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:16.280
  • MUSIC, BUT I HAD THIS KIND OF
  • 00:22:16.280 --> 00:22:17.190
  • PLETHORA, IF I MAY USE THAT WORD
  • 00:22:17.190 --> 00:22:19.220
  • ON THE SHOW--
  • 00:22:19.220 --> 00:22:20.170
  • - ERIC: YOU MAY.
  • 00:22:20.170 --> 00:22:21.150
  • - STEVEN: GOOD, THANK YOU-- OF
  • 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.240
  • SONGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT FELL
  • 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:26.090
  • OUTSIDE OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:22:26.090 --> 00:22:27.220
  • WERE RECORDING, SO I GOT AN
  • 00:22:28.050 --> 00:22:31.050
  • OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A RECORD,
  • 00:22:31.050 --> 00:22:32.160
  • AND 1987, MY FIRST ALBUM CAME
  • 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.200
  • OUT.
  • 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:36.150
  • - ERIC: 1987, I'VE HEARD OF
  • 00:22:36.150 --> 00:22:37.050
  • THAT YEAR.
  • 00:22:37.050 --> 00:22:38.110
  • - STEVEN: I WAS TEN, YEAH.
  • 00:22:38.110 --> 00:22:39.080
  • NO, I WAS A LITTLE OLDER THAN
  • 00:22:39.080 --> 00:22:41.020
  • THAT, AND YOU WEREN'T BORN YET,
  • 00:22:41.020 --> 00:22:42.060
  • BUT IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:22:42.060 --> 00:22:42.210
  • - ERIC: 1987 WAS YOUR FIRST
  • 00:22:42.210 --> 00:22:43.250
  • RECORD?
  • 00:22:43.250 --> 00:22:44.140
  • - STEVEN: YEAH.
  • 00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:45.170
  • - ERIC: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:22:45.170 --> 00:22:46.050
  • YOU'VE BEEN DOIN' THIS FOR A
  • 00:22:46.050 --> 00:22:46.250
  • LITTLE WHILE.
  • 00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:48.090
  • - STEVEN: FIRST-- YEAH, YEAH,
  • 00:22:48.090 --> 00:22:49.020
  • AND IT WAS AN INTERESTING TIME.
  • 00:22:49.020 --> 00:22:49.240
  • IT REALLY WAS-- YOU KNOW, IT WAS
  • 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:51.140
  • NEW, SORT OF, THE IDEA OF A GUY
  • 00:22:51.250 --> 00:22:54.250
  • WHO KIND OF WAS MORE IN THAT
  • 00:22:54.250 --> 00:22:56.120
  • SINGER-SONGWRITER KIND OF VEIN.
  • 00:22:56.120 --> 00:22:58.140
  • THERE WEREN'T AS MANY DOIN' THAT
  • 00:22:58.140 --> 00:23:01.010
  • IN CHRISTIAN MUSIC, AND FOR
  • 00:23:01.010 --> 00:23:03.040
  • WHATEVER REASON, THANKFULLY,
  • 00:23:03.040 --> 00:23:04.160
  • THANK THE LORD, THERE WAS-- YOU
  • 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.090
  • KNOW, PEOPLE RESPONDED REALLY
  • 00:23:07.090 --> 00:23:08.210
  • WELL TO THAT AND--
  • 00:23:08.210 --> 00:23:09.100
  • - ERIC: WHO ELSE WAS DOIN' IT
  • 00:23:09.100 --> 00:23:10.200
  • AT THAT TIME?
  • 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:11.200
  • I GUESS AMY GRANT, MAYBE, RIGHT?
  • 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:12.120
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, AMY, AND
  • 00:23:12.120 --> 00:23:13.180
  • MICHAEL W., WAS, YOU KNOW, A FEW
  • 00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:15.020
  • YEARS INTO HIS CAREER;
  • 00:23:15.020 --> 00:23:16.280
  • MICHAEL CARD, YOU KNOW, GREAT
  • 00:23:16.280 --> 00:23:17.190
  • SINGER-SONGWRITER, OF COURSE,
  • 00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:18.100
  • AND SO THERE WERE THOSE--
  • 00:23:18.100 --> 00:23:19.160
  • A GUY NAMED WAYNE WATSON,
  • 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:20.080
  • GOOD FRIEND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:23:20.140 --> 00:23:23.140
  • WAS DOIN' THAT, SO THERE WERE
  • 00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:24.200
  • THOSE, SO THAT WAS MY
  • 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.000
  • FIRST RECORDING, AND,
  • 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.080
  • THANKFULLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
  • 00:23:28.080 --> 00:23:29.240
  • JUST RESPONDED IN KIND OF A SLOW
  • 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.140
  • BUILD; AND GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:23:32.140 --> 00:23:34.040
  • MAKE A SECOND RECORD AND A THIRD
  • 00:23:34.040 --> 00:23:36.060
  • ALBUM, AND NOW, ABOUT 20 ALBUMS
  • 00:23:36.060 --> 00:23:37.260
  • LATER, WHICH IS CRAZY, AND JUST
  • 00:23:37.260 --> 00:23:40.190
  • AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES THAT I
  • 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:43.200
  • NEVER COULD'VE IMAGINED.
  • 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.170
  • - ERIC: AND IN THE MIDDLE OF
  • 00:23:45.170 --> 00:23:46.080
  • THIS BURGEONING CAREER, YOU GOT
  • 00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:48.010
  • MARRIED AND RAISED A FAMILY.
  • 00:23:48.010 --> 00:23:50.260
  • TELL US ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:23:50.260 --> 00:23:52.040
  • - STEVEN: I MET MY WIFE,
  • 00:23:52.040 --> 00:23:53.240
  • MARY BETH, IN ANDERSON, INDIANA,
  • 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.230
  • RIGHT AROUND THE TIME THAT BILL
  • 00:23:56.230 --> 00:23:57.260
  • GAITHER AND ALL OF THAT WAS
  • 00:23:57.260 --> 00:23:58.180
  • HAPPENING, SO BEFORE MY CAREER
  • 00:23:58.180 --> 00:24:00.080
  • GOT STARTED, I MET MARY BETH,
  • 00:24:00.080 --> 00:24:01.130
  • WHICH I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR, SO
  • 00:24:01.130 --> 00:24:04.080
  • THIS HAS ALL BEEN OUR JOURNEY,
  • 00:24:04.080 --> 00:24:06.130
  • OUR SHARED JOURNEY TOGETHER.
  • 00:24:06.130 --> 00:24:07.100
  • WE MET AT OUR MAILBOX IN
  • 00:24:07.100 --> 00:24:09.290
  • ANDERSON, INDIANA, BECAUSE HER
  • 00:24:09.290 --> 00:24:12.250
  • LAST NAME WAS CHAPMAN.
  • 00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:13.210
  • HER MAIDEN NAME WAS CHAPMAN.
  • 00:24:13.210 --> 00:24:16.210
  • THAT'S HOW WE MET 'CAUSE WE WERE
  • 00:24:16.210 --> 00:24:18.150
  • ASSIGNED TO SHARE A MAILBOX,
  • 00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:19.180
  • WHICH SEEMS VERY STRANGE.
  • 00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:20.070
  • - ERIC: YOUR WIFE AND YOU HAD
  • 00:24:20.070 --> 00:24:20.290
  • THE SAME LAST NAME?
  • 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:24.000
  • - STEVEN: YES, WE DID, AND I
  • 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.050
  • KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKIN' 'CAUSE
  • 00:24:26.050 --> 00:24:28.090
  • I'M FROM KENTUCKY.
  • 00:24:28.090 --> 00:24:28.260
  • - ERIC: YOU NEED-- LET ME JUST
  • 00:24:28.260 --> 00:24:29.270
  • TELL YOU SOMETHIN' STRAIGHT UP.
  • 00:24:29.270 --> 00:24:31.020
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:31.020 --> 00:24:31.180
  • BEFORE YOU GUYS GET MARRIED, YOU
  • 00:24:31.180 --> 00:24:32.110
  • NEED TO TALK TO SOME MEDICAL
  • 00:24:32.110 --> 00:24:33.010
  • PROFESSIONALS.
  • 00:24:33.010 --> 00:24:33.190
  • - STEVEN: YES, YEAH.
  • 00:24:33.190 --> 00:24:34.110
  • - ERIC: YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT
  • 00:24:34.110 --> 00:24:35.030
  • THAT.
  • 00:24:35.030 --> 00:24:35.120
  • ALL RIGHT, DID YOU GET MARRIED?
  • 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:36.040
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, YEAH, WE DID.
  • 00:24:36.040 --> 00:24:36.250
  • - ERIC: OH, YOU DID.
  • 00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:37.120
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, YES.
  • 00:24:37.120 --> 00:24:37.290
  • - ERIC: OH, MAN.
  • 00:24:37.290 --> 00:24:38.140
  • - STEVEN: I KNOW.
  • 00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:38.290
  • - ERIC: OKAY, DID IT TURN OUT
  • 00:24:38.290 --> 00:24:39.200
  • OKAY?
  • 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.250
  • - STEVEN: EVERYTHING'S BEEN
  • 00:24:40.250 --> 00:24:41.150
  • OKAY, YEAH.
  • 00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:41.270
  • OUR CHILDREN ARE PRETTY
  • 00:24:41.270 --> 00:24:42.150
  • NORMAL-ISH.
  • 00:24:42.150 --> 00:24:42.270
  • - ERIC: WOW.
  • 00:24:42.270 --> 00:24:43.120
  • - STEVEN: YEAH, SO IT WAS ALL
  • 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:44.140
  • GOOD.
  • 00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:45.180
  • - ERIC: THIS FALL, WHATEVER,
  • 00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:47.120
  • NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, YOU'RE DOIN'
  • 00:24:47.120 --> 00:24:48.120
  • A CHRISTMAS TOUR.
  • 00:24:48.120 --> 00:24:49.180
  • - STEVEN: YEP.
  • 00:24:49.180 --> 00:24:50.250
  • - ERIC: THE REASON I SAY THIS
  • 00:24:50.250 --> 00:24:51.160
  • IS BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO GET
  • 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:52.180
  • IT IN THEIR HEAD THAT, IF THE
  • 00:24:52.180 --> 00:24:53.250
  • WANNA SEE YOU, THEY CAN SEE YOU
  • 00:24:53.250 --> 00:24:55.000
  • PERFORM.
  • 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:56.170
  • - STEVEN: I DO HAVE A CHRISTMAS
  • 00:24:56.170 --> 00:24:57.210
  • TOUR COMIN' UP, AND I'VE GOT A
  • 00:24:57.210 --> 00:25:00.040
  • NEW BLUEGRASS CD THAT JUST CAME
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  • OUT ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WHICH IS
  • 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:03.130
  • REALLY FUN.
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  • - ERIC: OH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF
  • 00:25:05.190 --> 00:25:06.110
  • THAT?
  • 00:25:06.110 --> 00:25:06.200
  • - STEVEN: I WAS NOT KIDDIN'.
  • 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:07.110
  • I HAVE A SONG WITH RICKY SKAGGS.
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  • - ERIC: "DEEPER ROOTS: WHERE
  • 00:25:09.040 --> 00:25:10.140
  • THE BLUEGRASS GROWS."
  • 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:11.220
  • - STEVEN: "WHERE THE BLUEGRASS
  • 00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:12.140
  • GROWS."
  • 00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:13.080
  • A LITTLE TIP OF THE HAT
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  • TO THE OLD KENTUCKY HOME.
  • 00:25:15.070 --> 00:25:15.270
  • - ERIC: CAN I TELL YA
  • 00:25:15.270 --> 00:25:16.140
  • SOMETHING?
  • 00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:17.100
  • - STEVEN: YEAH.
  • 00:25:17.100 --> 00:25:17.240
  • - ERIC: I LOVE BLUEGRASS SO
  • 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.140
  • MUCH.
  • 00:25:18.140 --> 00:25:18.230
  • - STEVEN: REALLY?
  • 00:25:18.230 --> 00:25:19.080
  • OH, SWEET.
  • 00:25:19.080 --> 00:25:19.230
  • - ERIC: I REALLY, REALLY DO.
  • 00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:20.140
  • - STEVEN: YOU NEED TO CHECK
  • 00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:21.040
  • THAT OUT.
  • 00:25:21.040 --> 00:25:21.150
  • MY DAD, MY 80-YEAR-OLD FATHER,
  • 00:25:21.150 --> 00:25:22.060
  • SINGS ON THAT CD.
  • 00:25:22.060 --> 00:25:22.260
  • - ERIC: REALLY?
  • 00:25:22.260 --> 00:25:23.120
  • AND YOU'VE GOT A CHRISTMAS TOUR
  • 00:25:26.020 --> 00:25:28.120
  • COMING.
  • 00:25:28.120 --> 00:25:28.260
  • IF PEOPLE WANNA KNOW WHERE THEY
  • 00:25:28.260 --> 00:25:29.180
  • CAN FIND YOU--
  • 00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:30.010
  • - STEVEN: YES, GO TO
  • 00:25:30.010 --> 00:25:31.000
  • THAT'S "STEVEN" WITH A "V."
  • 00:25:33.130 --> 00:25:35.000
  • - ERIC: AND ALL THE INFORMATION
  • 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:35.220
  • IS THERE?
  • 00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:37.140
  • THERE'S PROBABLY VIDEOS THERE?
  • 00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:38.280
  • - STEVEN: THERE IS, YES.
  • 00:25:38.280 --> 00:25:39.200
  • - ERIC: EVERYTHING?
  • 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.140
  • - STEVEN: YEP, IT'S ALL THERE.
  • 00:25:41.140 --> 00:25:42.060
  • - ERIC: SO, MY FRIEND, THANK
  • 00:25:42.060 --> 00:25:42.270
  • YOU FOR COMIN' INTO THE STUDIO.
  • 00:25:42.270 --> 00:25:45.020
  • IT'S NOTHIN' SPECIAL, BUT IT'S
  • 00:25:45.020 --> 00:25:45.230
  • WHAT GOD GAVE US.
  • 00:25:45.230 --> 00:25:46.240
  • AND, HONESTLY, PEOPLE NEED TO
  • 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.010
  • LOOK YOU UP.
  • 00:25:49.010 --> 00:25:49.230
  • "STEVEN" WITH A "V,"
  • 00:25:49.230 --> 00:25:50.160
  • STEVENCURTISCHAPMAN.COM.
  • 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:51.220
  • CHECK IT OUT.
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  • MY FRIEND, GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:25:53.190 --> 00:25:54.190
  • THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
  • 00:25:54.190 --> 00:25:55.230
  • - AUDREY ROLOFF: WE WANTED A
  • 00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:05.080
  • LOVE STORY THAT WASN'T JUST
  • 00:26:05.080 --> 00:26:06.280
  • FOUNDED ON TEXT MESSAGES AND
  • 00:26:06.280 --> 00:26:08.290
  • SKYPE DATES.
  • 00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:09.210
  • WE WANTED TO BE MORE CREATIVE,
  • 00:26:09.210 --> 00:26:10.280
  • AND ULTIMATELY BUILD A LOVE
  • 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:12.200
  • - ERIC: WE KNOW THAT THE BIRTH
  • 00:26:14.130 --> 00:26:15.060
  • OF YOUR SON, THAT IT WAS ALL
  • 00:26:15.060 --> 00:26:15.260
  • BUT WAS HE BORN WITH "JOHN 3:16"
  • 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.080
  • ON HIS EYELIDS--
  • 00:26:19.080 --> 00:26:21.080
  • - PAM TEBOW: NO.
  • 00:26:21.080 --> 00:26:21.240
  • - ERIC: -- OR WAS THAT
  • 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:22.120
  • SOMETHING THAT HE DID LATER?
  • 00:26:22.120 --> 00:26:23.020
  • - PAM: THAT WAS MAN-MADE.
  • 00:26:23.020 --> 00:26:23.210
  • - ERIC: YOU OWE ME FIVE BUCKS,
  • 00:26:23.210 --> 00:26:24.130
  • ALBIN.
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