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June 7, 2019
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Guest Steve Bancarz

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  • [Applause]
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  • Sid Roth: Hello.
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  • Sid Roth here.
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  • Welcome to my world, where it's naturally supernatural.
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  • A counterfeit of Christianity is sweeping our churches.
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  • According to the Pew survey, 61% of all practicing Christians are
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  • now involved in this counterfeit in one form or another.
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  • Next, on It's Supernatural!
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  • [Applause]
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  • Is there a supernatural dimension?
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  • A world beyond the one we know?
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  • Is there life after death?
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  • Are there hidden forces of darkness trying to block God's
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  • blessings for your life?
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  • Do angels exist, providing us with supernatural protection?
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  • Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven?
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  • Is God ready to bring a tsunami wave of healing onto planet
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  • Earth today?
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  • Sid Roth has spent over 40 years researching the strange world of
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  • the supernatural.
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  • Join Sid for this edition of It's Supernatural!
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  • [Applause]
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  • Sid Roth: Steven Bancarz.
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  • We hear the New Age talked about in various situations,
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  • but most of us don't even know what the New Age is.
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  • What is it?
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  • Steven Bancarz:The New Age Movement is a compilation of
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  • pagan beliefs and practices.
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  • So, the word pagan refers to any type of spiritual system that
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  • deviates from that in the scripture.
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  • But what you have with the New Age Movement is not just one set
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  • of pagan beliefs and practices, it's the compilation,
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  • a mixing pot that draws from things like Buddhism,
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  • Hinduism, Mysticism includes practices like crystal healing
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  • or Reiki, astrology, meditation, Yoga,
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  • and so forth.
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  • Steven Bancarz:Some common New Age doctrines would include
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  • things like reincarnation or the belief that man is intrinsically
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  • divine by nature or the belief that all paths ultimately lead
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  • back to God in the end.
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  • The end goal of the New Age Movement is to reach a state of
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  • enlightenment or spiritual awakening,
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  • which is essentially, that the ego,
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  • the personal self is an illusion;
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  • all that there is God.
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  • God is all and all is God.
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  • Steven Bancarz:Reaching that state of consciousness,
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  • which they call Christ consciousness or God
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  • consciousness, that's the goal of the New Age Movement;
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  • and unfortunately, some of the most influential people in our
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  • society right now are teaching this stuff.
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  • People like Russell Brand, Jim Carrey,
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  • Ellen DeGeneres, Oprah Winfrey.
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  • So, this actually coming down from the highest levels of
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  • social influence.
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  • Sid Roth: So, you say this is the goal.
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  • What is the overall goal of this,
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  • to get everyone into this New Age?
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  • Is that the goal?
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  • Steven Bancarz:No.
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  • The goal is, on a personal level,
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  • the goal is to reach a state where you realize
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  • that you are God.
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  • Sid Roth: That's the personal level?
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  • Steven Bancarz:That's the personal level.
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  • Sid Roth: What does it try to accomplish with people?
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  • Steven Bancarz:It tries to bring them into a spiritual
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  • awakening of their true nature.
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  • So basically...
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  • Sid Roth: Which on the surface, sounds good.
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  • Steven Bancarz:On the surface, it sounds good,
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  • but it's a false spiritual system.
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  • So, it's a deception.
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  • Sid Roth: You personally when you were in the New Age,
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  • had huge success.
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  • At your highest, what's going on?
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  • Steven Bancarz:I did have huge success.
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  • I had a website that was getting 200.000
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  • to 300.000 website views a day.
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  • It was one of the largest in the world at the time.
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  • I was actually a lead author on the largest New Age
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  • website for awhile.
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  • This was my career, it was my passion.
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  • I was making $40.000 to $50.000 a month in ad revenue.
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  • During this time, I actually thought God was blessing me.
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  • I thought this was God saying, "Congratulations,
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  • you're helping humanity wake up to their true spiritual nature
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  • out of the trap of materialism."
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  • Steven Bancarz:But Jesus says, Satan is the god of this world,
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  • and sometimes the Devil doesn't come to you as a guy with a
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  • pitchfork and horns.
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  • Sometimes he comes to you is everything that you thought
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  • you've always wanted.
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  • And little did I know that I was being rewarded by the satanic
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  • kingdom, thinking I was serving God the whole time.
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  • Sid Roth: Now, you mentioned many Hollywood stars are
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  • propagating this, but how dominant is it?
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  • Steven Bancarz:Right.
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  • Well, you have some of the bestselling books of all time
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  • that are explicitly New Age and occult.
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  • You have 40% of Americans who say they meditate
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  • at least once a week.
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  • You have 36 million Americans practicing yoga.
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  • It's a $10 billion industry.
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  • The crystal industry is $1 billion industry.
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  • The psychic services industry, things like Palmistry,
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  • Tarot card, reading, astrology, readings,
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  • up to $2 billion industry.
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  • Steven Bancarz:You have 27% of the American population who says
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  • they identify as being spiritual but not religious.
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  • There's scores of New Age beliefs.
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  • If you include all the New Age beliefs and tests for those,
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  • you're looking at 90%, 95% of the average American population
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  • is consenting to New Age beliefs,
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  • which is a testament.
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  • This is no longer secluded to a handful of hippies on the
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  • fringes of society.
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  • It's infiltrating every part of our culture and now occupies the
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  • vast majority of western thought right now.
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  • Sid Roth: You talk about the wonderful experiences you had in
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  • the New Age and on your website, but not all your experiences
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  • were wonderful.
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  • Did you ever talk about them on your website?
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  • Steven Bancarz:I did, but I was deceived.
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  • I saw a demon.
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  • Long story short, I saw a demon.
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  • I was in a lucid dream.
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  • A lucid dream is where you're in a dream state,
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  • but you become consciously aware that you're in that dream state.
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  • You're aware that you're dreaming within a dream.
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  • I'm in this dream and I get pulled up by this entity who
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  • appears in front of me, we're hovering in the air together.
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  • He has red skin, a red cloak, and black markings on his face.
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  • Steven Bancarz:He's staring at me about 20 feet away from me
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  • and he has a third eye in between his two regular eyes,
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  • which is a symbol for psychic empowerment and spiritual power.
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  • He opens his third eye at me.
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  • And when he does that, I experienced about three seconds
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  • of disorientation and darkness.
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  • When I finally opened my eyes and came to,
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  • I found myself hovering four feet over my body in my bedroom.
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  • I got pulled out of my body by this demon.
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  • I stood up and I look around and they think,
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  • "Oh, my goodness.
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  • I'm out of my body."
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  • Steven Bancarz:I spent the next four or five minutes fighting to
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  • get back into my flesh and I couldn't.
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  • I didn't have control.
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  • I didn't have sovereignty like I was told I did
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  • in the New Age Movement.
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  • Just your intentions protect you,
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  • your affirmation to protect you.
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  • No, they don't.
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  • You're in the Devil's arena and you're playing
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  • by his rules now.
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  • I was pulled twice out of my body against my will by demons.
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  • And this, unfortunately, it made me feel like I was spiritually
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  • superior, that I had to leg up on Christians,
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  • that I had a leg up on the average folk,
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  • that I had these entities giving me all this secret spiritual
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  • knowledge and power now.
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  • Sid Roth: How's someone raised in a good Christian home?
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  • What was the first crack that got you away from biblical
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  • Christianity?
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  • Steven Bancarz:Yeah, like you said,
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  • Christian home, Christian private school,
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  • Christian homeschooling, grew up in the church my whole life,
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  • church home groups at my house.
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  • What really led me away from the biblical worldview and caused me
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  • to deviate from Christianity was the topic of aliens.
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  • I couldn't reconcile this.
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  • Sid Roth: I see that as a choice on things to go
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  • to on television.
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  • Something in me says, "That'd interesting,
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  • and then God says to me, "Don't even look at it,
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  • but you looked at it.
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  • What happened?
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  • Steven Bancarz:I did look at it.
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  • It was actually a program on the History Channel,
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  • which is still there unfortunately,
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  • called Ancient Aliens, where they present this alleged
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  • evidence that mankind was visited in the past by our
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  • cosmic brothers and sisters, these extra terrestrials.
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  • Little did I know said that even secular researchers believe
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  • these are inter dimensional entities,
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  • not extra terrestrial.
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  • They believe their spiritual in origin.
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  • I didn't know this.
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  • I thought the New Age explanation was the only game in
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  • town, and I couldn't reconcile this with Genesis.
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  • I want dated God said, "Let there be aliens."
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  • Steven Bancarz:Did Jesus have to go and die on every single
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  • planet that housed extra terrestrial life?
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  • I could not reconcile it with the Christian worldview.
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  • There's lots of people, there's lots of resources available to
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  • help people with this, but I never heard it from the pulpit,
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  • and the Bible says God's people perish for a lack of knowledge.
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  • It's exactly what happened to me.
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  • Sid Roth: At your height, how financially successful was this
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  • industry you were in for you?
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  • Steven Bancarz:At my height, I was making $40.000
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  • to $50.000 a month.
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  • Actually in my first three weeks,
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  • I made over $50.000.
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  • I remember buying my sports car cash,
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  • and I'm sitting in my sports car and my Christian father is
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  • outside the window and I rolled down my window and I literally
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  • said, "Here's how deceived I was,
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  • I said, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all these
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  • things will be added onto you as well."
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  • Steven Bancarz:I thought I was serving the Kingdom of God.
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  • I was told by New Age teachers that the kingdom is this
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  • mystical state of consciousness and that I was helping people
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  • reach this.
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  • I thought this was God's abundance on my life.
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  • Sid Roth: Steven, I can see what was going on in the outside,
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  • but what I'd like to know is at that time,
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  • how much peace where you're really in?
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  • What was going on in the inside?
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  • Steven Bancarz:Well, Jesus says,
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  • "Whoever commits sin as a slave to sin."
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  • I was a sin slave.
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  • It says in Ephesians 5:8, it's interesting.
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  • It doesn't just say that you were a little dark and now you
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  • are light or you had darkness, then you're now you're light.
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  • It says, "You were darkness."
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  • I was darkness.
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  • The thoughts and intents of my heart where evil continuously.
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  • I was an addict.
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  • I was violent.
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  • I was lustful.
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  • I was greedy.
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  • I was depressed.
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  • I was extremely broken and depraved.
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  • Steven Bancarz:I wasn't just spiritually ill,
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  • I was spiritually dead.
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  • I was spiritually bankrupt.
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  • I was in a state of turmoil all day,
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  • all night.
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  • Sid Roth: Everyone looking at you said,
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  • "Boy, he's got it all."
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  • Steven Bancarz:Right.
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  • On the outside, I'm living the dream.
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  • Sid Roth: I wonder how many of you guys watching right now are
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  • playing a game like an actor, but you're coming apart
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  • on the inside.
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  • It took a supernatural visitation for Steven
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  • to be free.
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  • This visitation showed him something that New Age couldn't
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  • even offer.
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  • Sid Roth: Next, be right back.
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  • [Applause]
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  • [Applause]
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  • Sid Roth: Steven, on the outside,
  • 00:10:42.280 --> 00:10:45.170
  • you had it made.
  • 00:10:45.180 --> 00:10:46.170
  • On the inside?
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  • You're coming apart at the seams.
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  • So, how in the world that you get free?
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  • Steven Bancarz:The Bible says, "Be sure your sins will find you
  • 00:10:54.110 --> 00:10:56.270
  • out," and my secret sins started catching up to me.
  • 00:10:56.280 --> 00:10:59.180
  • It reached a point where I really had to start confessing
  • 00:10:59.190 --> 00:11:02.220
  • the sin I was suppressing and hiding from people in my life.
  • 00:11:02.230 --> 00:11:06.230
  • So, I confessed sin to people.
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  • It was the first time I was really looking in a mirror and
  • 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:10.280
  • coming to terms with my own brokenness,
  • 00:11:10.290 --> 00:11:12.290
  • "Wow.
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  • I really am a slave to sin.
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  • I really am deprived.
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  • I really am twisted on the inside,
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  • and I was broken.
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  • I was really broken.
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  • My mother, my Christian mother who was praying for me
  • 00:11:19.180 --> 00:11:21.030
  • vigilantly the entire time I'm in this movement.
  • 00:11:21.040 --> 00:11:23.060
  • She says, "Are you ready to give your life to the Lord yet?"
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  • Steven Bancarz:I was like, "Okay."
  • 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:27.160
  • I mean, I had intuitions about Jesus that I was suppressing
  • 00:11:27.170 --> 00:11:30.050
  • when I was in the New Age Movement.
  • 00:11:30.060 --> 00:11:31.160
  • Every New, Age teacher goes out of their way to try and account
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  • for Jesus.
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  • Never Buddha or Muhammad, but for Jesus,
  • 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.260
  • they always have the new explanation about what His
  • 00:11:36.270 --> 00:11:39.210
  • ministry really was.
  • 00:11:39.220 --> 00:11:40.180
  • That was always a red flag to me.
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  • I had a soft spot for him, so I was like,
  • 00:11:41.250 --> 00:11:43.200
  • "Okay, Jesus, if you're real, I want more of you.
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  • I want you as you actually are.
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  • I'm not going to fit you into this New Age paradigm anymore."
  • 00:11:47.210 --> 00:11:49.200
  • Steven Bancarz:A few weeks went by and nothing really changed in
  • 00:11:49.210 --> 00:11:52.060
  • my life until I confessed another round of sin that was
  • 00:11:52.070 --> 00:11:54.240
  • worse than the first one, and that's really
  • 00:11:54.250 --> 00:11:57.080
  • when I bottomed out.
  • 00:11:57.090 --> 00:11:58.020
  • I had nothing left.
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  • I had no strength left.
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  • I had nothing good in me.
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  • I was a wreck.
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  • I realized I'm not fit to be lord of my own life anymore.
  • 00:12:03.130 --> 00:12:08.030
  • I went outside on the back balcony of my house,
  • 00:12:08.040 --> 00:12:10.250
  • my stupid 4.000 square foot house I was living in,
  • 00:12:10.260 --> 00:12:13.250
  • and I just fell at the feet of the Lord and I was weeping.
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  • Steven Bancarz:It was the first time I was actually repenting.
  • 00:12:17.160 --> 00:12:20.210
  • I had this conviction, I hadn't just wronged people.
  • 00:12:20.220 --> 00:12:23.010
  • I'd sinned against the Holy God and I was weeping before Him,
  • 00:12:23.020 --> 00:12:26.010
  • apologizing to Him, reaching out to Him.
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  • I didn't know what was going to happen.
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  • I was just giving Him everything that I had.
  • 00:12:29.140 --> 00:12:31.160
  • When I did this, I felt His presence enter in on the horizon
  • 00:12:31.170 --> 00:12:35.070
  • in front of me.
  • 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:36.170
  • I felt Him enter in and this presences engulfed me.
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  • Sid Roth: As you're saying this, I can feel the presence of God.
  • 00:12:39.230 --> 00:12:44.040
  • Can you?
  • 00:12:44.050 --> 00:12:45.040
  • Some of you in the audience and you at home?
  • 00:12:45.050 --> 00:12:48.190
  • Go ahead.
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  • Steven Bancarz:Right.
  • 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:50.210
  • Yeah.
  • 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:51.290
  • So, His presence comes in and it starts engulfing me and it
  • 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:52.250
  • starts filling me at the same time.
  • 00:12:52.260 --> 00:12:55.070
  • It's a personal presence that is self-authenticating.
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  • I knew when I was in this presence that this was the Jesus
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  • of the New Testament.
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  • This is the Jesus I was suppressing in unrighteousness.
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  • All I could stay in my head during the segment noise,
  • 00:13:05.260 --> 00:13:08.040
  • during this time, was "Jesus is Lord."
  • 00:13:08.050 --> 00:13:10.210
  • Steven Bancarz:It's so simple.
  • 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:11.260
  • He's the Son of God.
  • 00:13:11.270 --> 00:13:13.000
  • I was making it so complex.
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  • It's the simple thing.
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  • Jesus is Lord.
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  • What really stuck out to me, Sid,
  • 00:13:17.030 --> 00:13:18.110
  • which wrecked me, it really broke me.
  • 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.130
  • The Lord showed me how creation was responding to Him.
  • 00:13:20.140 --> 00:13:24.130
  • When He was there, I could hear and detect in the Spirit that
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  • the sounds of nature, the crickets,
  • 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.110
  • the leaves on the trees, the sound of the wind
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  • was glorifying Him.
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  • All of nature was crying out and I was detecting that.
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  • I picked that up in the Spirit.
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  • Sid Roth: I believe God knew you needed to have that.
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  • Am I right?
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  • Steven Bancarz:I needed to have that because I believe that
  • 00:13:44.180 --> 00:13:46.040
  • nature was God and that I was God;
  • 00:13:46.050 --> 00:13:48.070
  • and He was showing me, "No, even nature itself knows who I am."
  • 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.290
  • I thought to myself, "If nature itself recognizes Jesus is Lord,
  • 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.290
  • who am I to deny Him?"
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  • I went back into my house after and I was filled
  • 00:13:58.250 --> 00:14:01.070
  • with the Holy Spirit.
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  • I had all these light bulbs going off in my head showing me
  • 00:14:02.150 --> 00:14:04.230
  • the New Age Movement is a demonic deception set up
  • 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.050
  • strategically to lead people away from the experience,
  • 00:14:07.060 --> 00:14:10.160
  • the born again experience I just had.
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  • Steven Bancarz:From that day forward,
  • 00:14:12.270 --> 00:14:13.260
  • I never wrote another New Age article.
  • 00:14:13.270 --> 00:14:15.060
  • I quit my job over night, sold my house,
  • 00:14:15.070 --> 00:14:17.120
  • sold my car, made an apology video online,
  • 00:14:17.130 --> 00:14:20.070
  • apologizing saying, "I'm really sorry, guys.
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  • I'm no longer writing New Age articles,
  • 00:14:22.180 --> 00:14:24.100
  • and I'm actually a born again Christian now.
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  • So, I just want to share with you my story and my testimony."
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  • [Applause]
  • 00:14:29.160 --> 00:14:30.230
  • Sid Roth: So, you were able to tell hundreds of thousands of
  • 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:33.010
  • New Agers that Jesus is Lord.
  • 00:14:33.020 --> 00:14:36.040
  • But then these demons, they didn't want you doing this,
  • 00:14:36.050 --> 00:14:41.050
  • and they came back and hit you again.
  • 00:14:41.060 --> 00:14:42.260
  • What happened?
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  • Steven Bancarz:Yeah, there was demonic attack going
  • 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:45.060
  • on in my life.
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  • I was having night terrors.
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  • I was having nightmares.
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  • I was having things fall in my house randomly.
  • 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:50.080
  • It like there was a demonic fester in the atmosphere
  • 00:14:50.090 --> 00:14:53.230
  • in my house.
  • 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.010
  • What the Holy Spirit started to show me and reveal to me was,
  • 00:14:55.020 --> 00:14:57.270
  • "The reason why you're being attacked,
  • 00:14:57.280 --> 00:14:59.270
  • the reason why you're being oppressed,
  • 00:14:59.280 --> 00:15:01.140
  • even though you're walking with Me,
  • 00:15:01.150 --> 00:15:02.240
  • is because you are giving legal ground and legal right to these
  • 00:15:02.250 --> 00:15:05.260
  • demons by having occult and New Age paraphernalia
  • 00:15:05.270 --> 00:15:08.220
  • in your house."
  • 00:15:08.230 --> 00:15:09.290
  • Sid Roth: So, what did you do with all this paraphernalia?
  • 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.000
  • Steven Bancarz:Well, I had a bonfire.
  • 00:15:12.010 --> 00:15:13.140
  • I put them all together, I burnt them all.
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  • I threw all my objects, my trinkets,
  • 00:15:15.220 --> 00:15:18.090
  • my jewelry, even my clothing, my idols,
  • 00:15:18.100 --> 00:15:21.040
  • I threw it all in the garbage.
  • 00:15:21.050 --> 00:15:22.120
  • As soon as I did this, there is instant spiritual breakthrough
  • 00:15:22.130 --> 00:15:24.240
  • in clarity in my head.
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  • [Applause]
  • 00:15:26.130 --> 00:15:27.210
  • Praise God.
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  • Sid Roth: The sad thing is, this New Age movement
  • 00:15:33.010 --> 00:15:38.150
  • is invading the church.
  • 00:15:38.160 --> 00:15:40.190
  • You mentioned that the Pew survey showed 61% of
  • 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:45.280
  • professional Christians are involved in one or more New Age
  • 00:15:45.290 --> 00:15:49.180
  • practices or beliefs.
  • 00:15:49.190 --> 00:15:51.030
  • I want to know what these practices are.
  • 00:15:51.040 --> 00:15:54.060
  • We'll be right back.
  • 00:15:54.070 --> 00:15:55.250
  • [Applause]
  • 00:15:55.260 --> 00:15:59.210
  • [Applause]
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  • Sid Roth: Steven, I know you had all sorts of experiences in the
  • 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.260
  • New Age and feelings.
  • 00:18:38.270 --> 00:18:41.050
  • Tell me about the feeling you had when Jesus revealed Himself
  • 00:18:41.060 --> 00:18:46.060
  • to you and maybe the difference between the two.
  • 00:18:46.070 --> 00:18:49.170
  • Steven Bancarz:The most striking difference was that
  • 00:18:49.180 --> 00:18:51.280
  • when I was in the presence of Jesus,
  • 00:18:51.290 --> 00:18:54.290
  • I knew I had found the answer to the questions about who am I?
  • 00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:00.200
  • Why am I here?
  • 00:19:00.210 --> 00:19:01.200
  • What is the meaning of life?
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  • I was satisfied.
  • 00:19:02.220 --> 00:19:04.050
  • I knew I had come into contact with the ultimate truth,
  • 00:19:04.060 --> 00:19:07.220
  • the highest truth.
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  • There was no more searching.
  • 00:19:08.270 --> 00:19:10.100
  • Now, it's just a matter of growing in that truth.
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  • Steven Bancarz:I remember staring at my bookshelf at all
  • 00:19:13.010 --> 00:19:14.270
  • these New Age books and I had peace.
  • 00:19:14.280 --> 00:19:16.160
  • For the first time, I had real lasting peace that the New Age
  • 00:19:16.170 --> 00:19:19.070
  • practices couldn't give me because I knew the Spirit of
  • 00:19:19.080 --> 00:19:21.210
  • truth Himself.
  • 00:19:21.220 --> 00:19:22.230
  • Jesus, who is the truth, was now living in me,
  • 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:25.020
  • and so I knew that this was the highest truth you could possibly
  • 00:19:25.030 --> 00:19:28.020
  • attain and reach, was the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
  • 00:19:28.030 --> 00:19:30.240
  • It was interesting.
  • 00:19:30.250 --> 00:19:32.130
  • When I was in His presence, I felt like I was being crushed
  • 00:19:32.140 --> 00:19:35.130
  • like a diamond almost.
  • 00:19:35.140 --> 00:19:36.270
  • The word in Hebrew for glory has a sense of of weightiness to it,
  • 00:19:36.280 --> 00:19:41.040
  • and I felt like there was this weightiness that was upon me.
  • 00:19:41.050 --> 00:19:44.080
  • Sid Roth: Wait, when it comes on me,
  • 00:19:44.090 --> 00:19:45.290
  • sometimes if I'm standing, I have to almost bow down because
  • 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:50.010
  • there's a weight.
  • 00:19:50.020 --> 00:19:51.040
  • Upon me.
  • 00:19:51.050 --> 00:19:51.280
  • Steven Bancarz:That's right.
  • 00:19:51.290 --> 00:19:52.240
  • It makes you want to bow down.
  • 00:19:52.250 --> 00:19:53.250
  • Sid Roth: Yeah.
  • 00:19:53.260 --> 00:19:54.200
  • Steven Bancarz:That's difference.
  • 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:55.280
  • Nothing I encountered in the New Age movement made me want to bow
  • 00:19:55.290 --> 00:19:57.050
  • down and that's because your spirit man knows when you're in
  • 00:19:57.060 --> 00:20:00.080
  • the presence of the living God.
  • 00:20:00.090 --> 00:20:01.150
  • Sid Roth: Tell me some of the New Age practices that have
  • 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:06.220
  • invaded the church, but even before that,
  • 00:20:06.230 --> 00:20:09.160
  • you talk about Oprah is a pied piper of the New Age.
  • 00:20:09.170 --> 00:20:15.160
  • Explain that.
  • 00:20:15.170 --> 00:20:16.070
  • Steven Bancarz:Yeah, she is.
  • 00:20:16.080 --> 00:20:17.150
  • I don't think there's anybody who has done more to promote New
  • 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:21.040
  • Age spirituality in the west than Oprah Winfrey,
  • 00:20:21.050 --> 00:20:23.090
  • and at the very strong claim, but from her programs like Super
  • 00:20:23.100 --> 00:20:26.170
  • Soul Sunday, the books she promotes and advertises,
  • 00:20:26.180 --> 00:20:29.110
  • I'm talking millions and millions,
  • 00:20:29.120 --> 00:20:31.090
  • tens of millions of New Age books have been promoted and
  • 00:20:31.100 --> 00:20:34.060
  • sold through her book club, through her programs.
  • 00:20:34.070 --> 00:20:36.190
  • She's really running the show in the west right now.
  • 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.280
  • Steven Bancarz:As far as New Age practices getting into the
  • 00:20:38.290 --> 00:20:41.170
  • church, a part of that is accredited to just the fact that
  • 00:20:41.180 --> 00:20:44.060
  • it's so prevalent in our culture right now.
  • 00:20:44.070 --> 00:20:46.180
  • It happens to leak in there by osmosis.
  • 00:20:46.190 --> 00:20:48.190
  • So an example of something would be a mystical practice called
  • 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.040
  • contemplative prayer.
  • 00:20:52.050 --> 00:20:53.130
  • There's a difference between praying contemplatively and
  • 00:20:53.140 --> 00:20:56.020
  • contemplative prayer.
  • 00:20:56.030 --> 00:20:57.280
  • Contemplative prayer is essentially where you pick some
  • 00:20:57.290 --> 00:21:00.040
  • kind of mantra, like a word, and you repeat this word over in
  • 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:04.150
  • your head over and over and over again.
  • 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.160
  • There's no vertical connection made between you and God.
  • 00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:09.200
  • You're just trying to say this word to shift your
  • 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:11.230
  • consciousness, to dissolve your personal sense of self,
  • 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:14.210
  • and attain what it's called pure consciousness or unity
  • 00:21:14.220 --> 00:21:17.090
  • consciousness, where you achieve unity with God.
  • 00:21:17.100 --> 00:21:20.190
  • Steven Bancarz:Another example would be angel Ouija boards,
  • 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:23.090
  • where, "Hey, rather than contact Satan and demons,
  • 00:21:23.100 --> 00:21:26.080
  • here's a Ouija board, contact your guardian angel."
  • 00:21:26.090 --> 00:21:28.230
  • Sid Roth: Is there a danger to a Christian doing these things?
  • 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:32.020
  • Steven Bancarz:It's extremely dangerous because the Bible says
  • 00:21:32.030 --> 00:21:34.210
  • that Satan could masquerade himself as an angel of light,
  • 00:21:34.220 --> 00:21:37.160
  • so how do you know you're not contacting Satan when you're
  • 00:21:37.170 --> 00:21:40.220
  • doing these things?
  • 00:21:40.230 --> 00:21:41.260
  • If you don't have the discernment to know in advance,
  • 00:21:41.270 --> 00:21:43.140
  • you shouldn't be going there.
  • 00:21:43.150 --> 00:21:44.220
  • You don't have the discernment to discern what spirit's coming
  • 00:21:44.230 --> 00:21:46.150
  • through from the other side.
  • 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.290
  • Steven Bancarz:Another example of the New Age Movement in the
  • 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.070
  • Church would be the practice of yoga,
  • 00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:52.010
  • which is is controversial, but just on the less definitionally,
  • 00:21:52.020 --> 00:21:54.280
  • Hinduism in practice is.
  • 00:21:54.290 --> 00:21:57.210
  • I would say go to a kinesiologist,
  • 00:21:57.220 --> 00:21:59.260
  • go to a chiropractor, get some back stretches from a local
  • 00:21:59.270 --> 00:22:02.110
  • personal trainer.
  • 00:22:02.120 --> 00:22:03.180
  • Scientifically, they've been shown to be just as effective in
  • 00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:06.040
  • alleviating back pain as yoga.
  • 00:22:06.050 --> 00:22:08.000
  • Now, what's scary, Sid, and what's dangerous is a lot of
  • 00:22:08.010 --> 00:22:11.040
  • these practices, they're actually named after the gods of
  • 00:22:11.050 --> 00:22:14.140
  • Hinduism.
  • 00:22:14.150 --> 00:22:15.220
  • When you hold these postures, what it's meant to do is invoke
  • 00:22:15.230 --> 00:22:18.140
  • the character, the properties, and the essences of these
  • 00:22:18.150 --> 00:22:21.150
  • certain gods.
  • 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:22.260
  • Sid Roth: So, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
  • 00:22:22.270 --> 00:22:25.100
  • Steven Bancarz:Right.
  • 00:22:25.110 --> 00:22:26.060
  • The Bible says, "Flee from idolatry."
  • 00:22:26.070 --> 00:22:27.060
  • Sid Roth: What is Christ consciousness?
  • 00:22:27.070 --> 00:22:29.240
  • Steven Bancarz:Christ consciousness,
  • 00:22:29.250 --> 00:22:31.020
  • it's a staple New Age doctrine, which is this idea that man is
  • 00:22:31.030 --> 00:22:34.000
  • intrinsically connected to God by nature and we're just itself
  • 00:22:34.010 --> 00:22:37.270
  • ignorant of it.
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  • So, the New Age teachers will tell us,
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  • "Not just Jesus was Christ-ed, you can be Christ-ed too."
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  • What's dangerous about this and scary about this is Jesus
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  • actually warns in the last days, people will come.
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  • He says, "Many people will come saying,
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  • 'I am Christ,' and deceive many."
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  • Steven Bancarz:So, is He referring to the dozen or so
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  • cult followers that have all dissolved with time and have
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  • relatively small cult followings or is He referring to the
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  • millions and millions and millions of New Age
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  • practitioners who literally believe "I am Christ" and will
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  • say "I am Christ."
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  • Sid Roth: Did you believe that?
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  • Steven Bancarz:Absolutely.
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  • I believe that was a state I was working toward.
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  • I believed I was God.
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  • I believed everyone was God.
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  • Sid Roth: isn't it?
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  • What originally Satan told Eve, "You can be like God"?
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  • Steven Bancarz:Absolutely.
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  • Sid Roth: That's where it all goes back.
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  • There's a counterfeit and there's the authentic.
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  • Why would anyone want the cheap counterfeit when they could have
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  • the authentic?
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  • I want to say a prayer with you and I'm promising you if you say
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  • this prayer and mean it to the best of your ability,
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  • you can do that out loud that "God is not a man,
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  • that He should lie," and changes occur in your life.
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  • That will be monumental for eternity.
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  • Repeat this prayer after me.
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  • Sid Roth: Dear God...
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  • Audience: Dear God...
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  • Sid Roth: ...I'm a sinner...
  • 00:23:54.150 --> 00:23:55.090
  • Audience: ...I'm a sinner...
  • 00:23:55.100 --> 00:23:56.050
  • Sid Roth: ...against you.
  • 00:23:56.060 --> 00:23:57.080
  • Audience: ...against you.
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  • Sid Roth: And you alone have I sinned.
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  • Audience: And you alone have I sinned.
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  • Sid Roth: ...and I'm so sorry.
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  • Audience: ...and I'm so sorry.
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  • Sid Roth: I believe...
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  • Audience: I believe...
  • 00:24:05.230 --> 00:24:06.220
  • Sid Roth: ...the blood of Jesus...
  • 00:24:06.230 --> 00:24:07.290
  • Audience: ...the blood of Jesus...
  • 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:09.020
  • Sid Roth: ...makes me clean.
  • 00:24:09.030 --> 00:24:10.090
  • Audience: ...makes me clean.
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  • Sid Roth: And now that I'm clean...
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  • Audience: And now that I'm clean...
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  • Sid Roth: Jesus, come inside of me.
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  • Audience: Jesus, come inside of me.
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  • Sid Roth: I make you my Lord.
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  • Audience: I make you my Lord.
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  • Sid Roth: I'm so happy to know you.
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  • Audience: I'm so happy to know you.
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  • Sid Roth: Amen.
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  • Audience: Amen.
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  • [Applause]
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  • Sid Roth: Next week on It's Supernatural!
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  • Are you ready to receive God's blessings and also release His
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  • power?
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  • Sid Roth: Ben, join us right here on the next
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  • It's Supernatural! with Sid Roth
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  • and learn how to release supernatural,
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  • miracle working power everywhere you go.
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  • And, get ready for breakthrough in your own life too.
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  • Join us.
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