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Episode 11 | Wealth

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November 13, 2018
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Jesus the Game Changer

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  • in the 16th Century.
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  • He was a very wealthy guy.
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  • He traded in cloth.
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  • He use to bring it over from Europe
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  • and he would sell it to the wealthy elite.
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  • Even the kind of Clerics of London.
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  • He met a young man whose name was William Tyndale.
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  • And William Tyndale was a theologian and a translator.
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  • And he wanted to translate the Bible into English.
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  • You see, it was only ever in Latin.
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  • And Monmouth wanted to see exactly the same thing.
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  • Interestingly, the authorities
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  • didn't wanna see that happen.
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  • The authorities didn't wanna see
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  • the Bible translated from Latin into English.
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  • And so what the authorities did was start
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  • to put pressure on Tyndale.
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  • In fact, Tyndale had to run to Germany
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  • to continue his work and Monmouth continued
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  • to support Tyndale.
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  • When they found out that Monmouth was supporting Tyndale
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  • they actually arrested him.
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  • In May 1528 they brought him under the Tower Bridge
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  • on a barge.
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  • They brought him through this gate, the Traders Gate.
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  • Monmouth spent a year in the Tower of London as a prisoner,
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  • simply because he wanted to support Tyndale
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  • to translate the Bible into English.
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  • Monmouth could've had a very easy, successful life
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  • as a wealthy elite.
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  • And yet his focus was to do what Jesus was calling
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  • him to do.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • So John, tell us about Humphrey Monmouth.
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  • What was his background and business?
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  • - Yeah, in the 1500s the main industry was cloth.
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  • It was like technology is today or film making even.
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  • And cloth in England went all over the world.
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  • And Humphrey Monmouth was great at cloth.
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  • He was a cloth merchant.
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  • And so he was a great business man in the 1500s.
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  • Made a heap of money.
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  • But it wasn't about making money for him.
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  • That wasn't the end goal of his life.
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  • He used it to be incredibly generous
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  • to actually fund the English Bible,
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  • the first translation of the English Bible.
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  • - So how did Humphrey Monmouth come in contact
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  • with William Tyndale?
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  • - Before William Tyndale got interested
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  • in translating the Bible he was preaching
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  • at a church in London.
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  • And Humphrey Monmouth somehow found his way to that church.
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  • And heard this preacher who was a very
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  • unusual preacher and there seemed to be a connection there.
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  • And said, I wanna get to know this guy.
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  • I wanna get behind this guy.
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  • - So why would anybody have a problem
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  • with the Bible being translated from Latin into English?
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  • - In one sense it's just tradition.
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  • The Bible had always been in Latin.
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  • They thought of Latin as an exalted language,
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  • higher than English.
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  • English was sort of down the list,
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  • as we'll just keep it in this sort of traditional
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  • formal language.
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  • And the people who wanted to make that decision
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  • they knew Latin so it wasn't really a problem for them.
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  • On the other hand though, it allowed them
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  • to sort of maintain control.
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  • The official control.
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  • It seems completely foreign to us
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  • and to some degree it should be.
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  • But that traditions tough to break.
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  • - So Monmouth, we can understand that Tyndale
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  • was the one who did it. - Yeah.
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  • - He ran from England, ended up in Germany.
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  • But Monmouth he's continuing to support Tyndale.
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  • - [John] That's right. - But Tyndale,
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  • what's his motivation?
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  • What do you know about his motivation?
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  • - Yeah, we know that he was taking a huge risk.
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  • To support the translation of the English Bible
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  • in the 16th Century was equivalent to heresy.
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  • He could be burned for it.
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  • Here's a business guy who has no need of that risk.
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  • Who says, this is worth doing.
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  • We need an English Bible in our generation.
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  • I'm willing to go for it.
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  • I'm willing to support you.
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  • I'm willing to by your Gospel Patron
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  • and stand beside you for that.
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  • That's huge.
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  • I think it shows his value of Scripture.
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  • And his understanding of the need of that
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  • in his generation.
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  • - Yeah, give us a picture of how wealthy he was.
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  • How was he in comparison to everybody else?
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  • - Well, there's a season where he was actually
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  • put in prison for his work with William Tyndale.
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  • And it was so significant,
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  • that when he was in prison his employees couldn't work.
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  • That the industry started to tank.
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  • So they let him out of prison.
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  • Because, we gotta have this business guy
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  • actually in the field.
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  • We can't have him tucked away.
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  • - So what is your feel in studying him a little.
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  • I know that's hard to do. - [John] Right.
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  • - About what his attitude to money and wealth was.
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  • - He was risk taking with it.
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  • I mean Jesus talks about storing up your treasure
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  • in Heaven versus just piling it up here
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  • and building bigger barns.
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  • Monmouth lived that.
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  • He was generous, sacrificial, personally engaged
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  • in using his wealth for the Great Commission.
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  • For the spread of the English Bible.
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  • That mattered to him.
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  • That's unusual today.
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  • To step outside of your comfort zone with your wealth.
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  • We all wanna be comfortable.
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  • And here's Monmouth saying,
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  • I'm willing not only to put my money where my mouth is,
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  • but to be willing to go into prison for it,
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  • that's really significant.
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  • (piano music)
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  • - So these monasteries actually became
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  • very large institutions.
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  • What were monasteries like and what difference
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  • did they make?
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  • - What you had was that monasteries are cropping up
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  • all across Europe.
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  • And they are, they become farms.
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  • They are, they do become businesses.
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  • And what we find is that the towns folk often
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  • came to them because they trusted them.
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  • And so they became a center,
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  • not just of education but they also became a center
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  • of commerce, a center of banking.
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  • And part of it was based on their education.
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  • They were among the most well educated people in Europe.
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  • And part of it was based on the idea of trust.
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  • When we think of capitalism we often think of,
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  • you know, markets and we think of capital,
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  • we think of banking, we think of regulation.
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  • The Benedictines in some sense would've agreed
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  • with Adam Smith who came later.
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  • Which who said that capitalism could only work
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  • if people can trust each other.
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  • That there's no amount of regulation
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  • that will save capitalism if we can't trust each other.
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  • And so in a certain sense, the Benedictines,
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  • without intending to do it,
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  • became the educators, and the bankers
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  • and a center of life throughout Europe.
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  • (piano music)
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  • - [Karl] I guess today we tend to see,
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  • here's a group of people that locked themselves away
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  • and left the world.
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  • - Well, monasteries were communities.
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  • Where people of course, you know, dedicated
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  • their lives to the church.
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  • But they didn't lock themselves up.
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  • They weren't unworldly.
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  • They had their livings to make.
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  • And consequently, capitalism was invented
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  • in the great Monastic Communities of Europe.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - So these monasteries actually shifted
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  • about how they looked at work and they created
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  • more than they needed.
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  • And therefore created wealth.
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  • Give me a bit of a picture of what,
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  • how you saw Monasteries growing.
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  • - Now Saint Benedictine it was who added the dimension
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  • of work.
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  • But these Monks here had to go out and beg to eat.
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  • Because they didn't have the women
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  • who will grind their grain and make their wheat.
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  • And make their bread.
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  • So, the Buddhist Monks had to go out and beg.
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  • But Benedictine read in the Gospel Letters of Paul,
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  • that whoever doesn't work shouldn't eat.
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  • So he required his Monks to work.
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  • Now, that began to change
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  • the character of monasteries.
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  • That you couldn't beg, you had to work.
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  • But it also became the means of the birth
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  • of modern technology and knowledge.
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  • Because the young men, 12, 13, 14 year olds,
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  • they've come into the monasteries.
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  • They have come to learn to pray.
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  • Get to know God.
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  • But now they're having to grind wheat
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  • for the whole community and bake bread.
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  • So the Abbots see that and say this is terrible.
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  • You know, the whole day these guys are working.
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  • So let's do something so that,
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  • to minimize labor.
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  • Because the Bible had a very important distinction
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  • between work and toil.
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  • God is not a meditator.
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  • A Hindu god is a meditator.
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  • The Bible's God is a worker.
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  • He works for six days to create.
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  • He rests on the seventh.
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  • So to be godly means to work for six days.
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  • But once sin came in work became toil.
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  • You will have to eat of the sweat of your brow,
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  • God says to Adam.
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  • So toil is curse.
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  • Salvation from sin includes Salvation from toil.
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  • That was the most important theological force
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  • creating technology.
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  • So now you have these young men,
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  • because they are studying, they are not just worker slaves.
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  • They're intellectuals who are studying.
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  • So they figure out how to put a little dam on the,
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  • most of the monasteries are next to the rivers,
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  • little rivers.
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  • You dam the water.
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  • Have the water fall.
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  • Run these blades.
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  • Use that motion to grind your grain
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  • to all sorts of power machinery.
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  • That's how power machinery and technology
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  • begins to develop.
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  • - The marvelous thing about the monasteries
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  • of course, is they could make long term economic plans
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  • and they would always be,
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  • they were meritocracies of course,
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  • because they didn't have to deal with idiot sons.
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  • You know, the nobility had to deal with the fact
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  • that they'd come along with a guy who'd waste all the money.
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  • But in the monasteries they always took the smart guys
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  • and put them in charge.
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  • I'm sure there were plenty of idiots in the monastery
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  • but they just didn't give them responsibilities.
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  • And they were these wonderfully run factories
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  • and what not, what we've got going on.
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  • It was amazing because they early on specialized.
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  • Consequently led to a money economy
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  • because trade was very inefficient.
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  • And so the guys who were making wine
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  • bought their food from other places
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  • that were raising food.
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  • It was an amazing, it was an amazing time.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - There's one situation where Jesus was asked
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  • to adjudicate in a family dispute.
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  • And there's a brother who wanted justice in family finances.
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  • And Jesus answered with a really odd statement.
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  • He said, be careful of greed.
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  • Relationships are more important.
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  • And then He tells a story, a parable.
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  • And He tells about a man who had a crop on his land
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  • that did incredibly well.
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  • And without any reference to anybody else
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  • He decides he'd rip down his barns,
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  • build bigger barns and fill them with the crop.
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  • Well, that's exactly what happened.
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  • And he went home at the end of the harvest
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  • with his barns full, feeling like I've got it made.
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  • Yet that night Jesus says, God required his life for him.
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  • And the point Jesus was making is relationships matter.
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  • And the most important relationship
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  • is the one you have with God.
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  • (inspirational music)
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  • - [Karl] Did Jesus have much to say about money?
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  • - Actually, He did.
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  • But Jesus speaks more about money than almost
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  • any other topic.
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  • Both in the stories that He tells in His parables,
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  • and in some of the situations that He deals with.
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  • We think about Zacchaeus for example.
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  • You know, come down, I'm staying at your house tonight.
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  • And Zacchaeus gives away half of all he owns
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  • and the Gospels make that point.
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  • But in the stories and the parables that Jesus tells,
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  • He often raises commercial issues that people
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  • would be familiar with.
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  • Simple things like the lost coin.
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  • Or the shrewd manager.
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  • Or the rich young ruler.
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  • He talks about situations that people would recognize
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  • immediately and talks about money.
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  • Because people often have to deal with issues of money.
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  • That was clearly true in the First Century.
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  • - In some ways people kind of Jesus and wealth of the church
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  • or Christians and wealth in two different ways.
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  • One is that wealth is just an evil thing.
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  • That we should avoid it.
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  • - Yeah, Yeah.
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  • - [Karl] Did Jesus hold that sort of view?
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  • - Not at all, not at all.
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  • He actually had significantly wealthy followers
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  • who supported His Ministry and He was glad for them.
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  • Luke, chapter eight, one through three,
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  • tells us Mary, Joanna and Susanna provided for Jesus
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  • and His Disciples out of their means.
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  • So if Jesus had a problem with wealthy people
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  • I think He would've said, no, no, no,
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  • you three don't follow Me.
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  • You three don't contribute to My Ministry.
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  • No, give it all away and give it to the poor.
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  • And then we see Zacchaeus when he meets Jesus,
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  • and Jesus came to his house for dinner
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  • He stands up and says, if I've defrauded anyone,
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  • I'm gonna repay it four fold.
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  • And I'll give half of my possessions to the poor.
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  • And Jesus's next line is,
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  • today Salvation is come to this house.
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  • Jesus doesn't say, what you only give half to the poor?
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  • You should give it all away.
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  • No, Jesus says, today Salvation has come to this house.
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  • So Jesus, He wants our hearts to be first loving God,
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  • and then using wealth for His purposes.
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  • Not using it for our purposes or even our,
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  • you know, fatter, happier lifestyle.
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  • But He wants us to use it for His Kingdom purposes.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - Jesus said quite a bit about greed and giving.
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  • The most important statement I think in Jesus's teaching
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  • is where He says that you can either serve God or money.
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  • So there's a sense in which money has a religious power.
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  • So what we used to do with God,
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  • we'd trust God, we'd love God, we'd serve God.
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  • What Jesus said was even in His day,
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  • and even more so in our day,
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  • there's the potential to trust,
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  • love and serve money instead.
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  • So in the Sermon on the Mount, He says,
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  • you cannot serve both God and mammon.
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  • Either you will love one and hate the other,
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  • or you'll be devoted to one and despise the other.
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  • So there's love and service and trust,
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  • but trust comes through in the following verses,
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  • where He says look at the lilies,
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  • look at the birds of the air.
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  • God provides for them.
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  • - So it's not that Christian faith,
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  • the teaching of Jesus in a kind of commercial economy
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  • are actually at odds with each other.
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  • - Well, on the contrary, in the sense that basic,
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  • basic Gospel values, Biblical values,
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  • call them what you like, right,
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  • are keep getting rediscovered as essential ingredients
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  • to commercial life.
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  • And once more, Karl, I don't think that anybody's
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  • in the commercial life in itself is evil.
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  • I mean it's how people meet their daily needs, right?
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  • And, so there is something, I think strongly Biblical
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  • about God providing these foundations for us,
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  • to meet our material needs.
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  • Which isn't to say that He isn't in and through that,
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  • I mean, He obviously is in and through that.
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  • But it's part of God's love for us that He hasn't said,
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  • well, that's it, you can starve, right?
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  • No, here are the means for doing this.
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  • But this is about your material welfare, your material.
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  • And I care for that.
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  • But of course, I care for a whole lot more than that.
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  • Which is why He sends His Son.
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  • Jesus makes it clear that you can't serve God and money.
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  • That's the problem with money and wealth.
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  • It can sit in the place of God.
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  • Just like idols do.
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  • That's the bit which Jesus says,
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  • well, it's the difference between life and death.
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  • (inspirational music)
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  • - The problem with all idols is they're gods that fail.
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  • So they don't bring the security and satisfaction
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  • that we hope for.
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  • There's a book by a Sri Lanka, Evangelical,
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  • Vinoth Ramachandra on idolatry,
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  • where the title's worth the price of the book,
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  • God's that Fail.
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  • And that's the critique of idolatry in the Bible.
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  • It's a folly.
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  • So the problem with trusting in material things
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  • and serving material things
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  • is that they will demean you and they will fail you.
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  • Where as trusting in the Living and True God
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  • is something that does bring lasting satisfaction
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  • and security.
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  • (inspirational music)
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  • - So there are plenty of Christians
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  • who are blessed particularly in the West.
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  • With either having a lot of money
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  • or the ability to make a lot of money.
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  • Paul is good on this.
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  • Paul talks about having the gift of giving.
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  • It's one of the Spiritual gifts.
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  • Now if you've got the gift of giving then give.
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  • And how does that happen?
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  • Well, you have to make the money to give it away.
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  • Wasn't it John Wesley who said, you know,
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  • earn all you can, right?
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  • Gain all you can, give all you can.
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  • So it isn't that I think either Jesus Himself
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  • or that the church has turned around and said,
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  • if you're a rich person, forget it.
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  • You can't get into the Kingdom.
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  • If you're a rich person who Worships money,
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  • well then yes, right?
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  • That's a problem.
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  • That's a blocker.
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  • Why?
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  • Because you're not loving the Lord your God
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  • with all your heart, mind and strength.
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  • - What would somebody who's following Jesus,
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  • what would they look like in their wealth?
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  • Does this mean that everyone that follows Jesus
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  • is gonna be poor and give it all away?
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  • How do we deal with that?
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  • - Well, Jesus did say some pretty absolute things
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  • about giving all your money away and following Me.
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  • At other points though, He talks about generosity.
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  • So I think it can be an individual thing.
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  • We tend to think of greed as simply an attitude.
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  • But the New Testament had a very different view.
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  • There's a pagan author in the Second Century
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  • who said that you can spot a Christian
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  • because they're easily duped.
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  • They'll put you up for a week
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  • and they'll stop eating themselves to give you hospitality.
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  • So there's a sense in which the early church
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  • was known for three things.
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  • For worshiping the True and Living God rather than idols.
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  • For being sexually pure.
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  • And being generous and willing to share.
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  • - As somebody in the industry, if I can use that term,
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  • how do you fight, keep yourself balanced?
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  • Because you're kind of around it.
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  • Talking about it all of the time.
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  • - Yeah, that's right, yeah give it away.
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  • That's the answer to that.
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  • - Yeah?
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  • - Establish a gap.
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  • What one of my Christian mates says,
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  • you know, live the life of the gap.
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  • In other words, always consume, or spend money
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  • at a level which is below that, that you can afford.
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  • So the gap obviously serves two purposes.
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  • You know the first obviously is to make way for your giving.
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  • And as Christians, you know, we are asked to give.
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  • God loves a cheerful giver.
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  • So we're not under law, but we give.
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  • And creating the gap enable us to do that.
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  • But I think that there's a deeper reason here.
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  • In the end giving is a way of protecting your heart.
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  • Insulating your heart against what we all feel.
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  • And we all know it's a seductive thing.
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  • It's potentially an idol.
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  • All idols are seductive.
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  • And if you can give the money away,
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  • if you can say, all right, yep, okay,
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  • this much, you know is mine
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  • and this much belongs to The Lord.
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  • Give it away.
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  • That enables you to discipline yourself
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  • and not to be captured by it.
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  • You can turn and give it away.
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  • I remember a very wealthy investment banker
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  • friend of mine who was a Christian.
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  • And he approached me gingerly once and said,
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  • oh they tell me that you tithe.
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  • And I said, well, I said that's right, actually.
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  • He said, oh, he said yeah, I know I should.
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  • I'm troubled by that.
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  • And I said why are you troubled by that?
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  • And he said, do you have any idea what 10% of my income is?
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  • And I said, no and I don't wanna know.
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  • What I do know is this.
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  • Even after you've given the 10% away the 90% of it is yours.
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  • And you've got 90% of a very large number.
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  • I mean God doesn't ask us to do these things
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  • to make life miserable.
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  • God says, I wanna protect you
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  • from various forms of temptation.
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  • Various things that could potentially supplant
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  • Me in your life.
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  • (inspirational music)
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  • - So Jago, we're here in Holy Trinity Clapham
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  • and the Thornton family are a very important family
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  • for this church. - That's right.
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  • - And for the work of William Wilberforce.
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  • Tell us about the Thornton family.
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  • - Yes, the Thornton family originally,
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  • they were Russian merchants who were trading
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  • between the Baltic and Hull in the North of England.
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  • And after a while they settled in Clapham, here.
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  • And they were Christians.
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  • And they believed in Jesus and they were very wealthy.
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  • As a result of all this, the merchant trading.
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  • And I guess, what's so staggering about them
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  • is how they used their money.
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  • So they made a lot of money and they didn't just
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  • go right, we're keeping it all for ourselves,
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  • but they used their money in so many amazing ways.
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  • John Thornton who was very, very rich,
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  • he was the person actually, who gave the money
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  • so this church could be built.
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  • So this church was built because of him.
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  • He also invested his money into supporting
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  • lots of different Vicars in different churches.
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  • But also used his money in so many other
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  • different ways, as well.
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  • So, here we've got buildings, we've got Vicars,
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  • but actually here was William Wilberforce in this church
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  • working for the abolition of the slave trade.
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  • A lot, if you like, of the financial backing
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  • for that great project came from John Thornton.
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  • So, it was amazing to see how he used his money.
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  • - How do you reckon that changed in his mind?
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  • Like why would've he have taken that attitude?
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  • - Yeah, that's a good question.
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  • I guess at the end of the day he was going,
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  • this money I've been given, it's not my money
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  • that's all about me.
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  • Actually it is God's money.
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  • God's given me the gifts to have this money
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  • and I'm to steward it wisely.
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  • And part of that stewarding for him meant
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  • giving some away.
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  • So of course, he would've used some of his money
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  • for himself, for everyday needs, food, et cetera, housing.
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  • But actually he goes, actually extra,
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  • I don't need to live a lavish lifestyle.
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  • I'm gonna use it to give away.
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  • And apparently he gave away.
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  • Because he was so wealthy.
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  • He gave away 6/7ths of his income.
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  • So 1/7th of his income was for him and using
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  • for all that he was doing in life.
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  • But 6/7th he gave away to all these different causes.
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  • (inspirational music)
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  • - [Karl] This series is about Jesus as a Game Changer.
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  • And as you consider the Gospel patrons
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  • and all that you've done,
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  • how is Jesus a Game Changer in this world?
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  • - Jesus fueled all the Gospel patrons in the world.
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  • The only way you can replace the love of money
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  • is with a better love.
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  • With the Love of God.
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  • Jesus is a Game Changer because He fuels the change
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  • that a person has to go through between loving money
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  • and loving God instead.
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  • Then that choice of laying down the service of money,
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  • the love of money to actually value God,
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  • comes because Jesus enters your heart.
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  • And that's what happened for John Thornton
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  • in the 18th Century.
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  • Here's a businessman, a wealthy merchant.
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  • And he writes this, Jesus reigns and He will preserve
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  • His Justified ones.
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  • May The Lord strengthen us that we may grow in grace
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  • and in the knowledge of Him.
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  • And our hearts leap within us every time we hear
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  • His sweet Name articulated.
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  • Have you heard a businessman talk like that before?
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  • (laughs)
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  • He goes onto say, may The Lord keep us earnest
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  • for the Salvation of our dear friends and relatives
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  • and all around us.
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  • Let us not with Peter, be disturbed with the high winds
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  • and the storms of life.
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  • But keeping our eyes riveted on Jesus,
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  • go through good report and evil report,
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  • steadfast, unmovable, ever abounding
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  • in the work of The Lord.
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  • That quote from John Thornton changed the game for me
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  • as I studied Gospel Patrons because I saw,
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  • deep in the heart of this man was a passionate
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  • love for Jesus.
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  • That fueled his generosity, it fueled how he thought,
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  • it fueled the men in ministry that he partnered with.
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  • He was a man for Jesus.
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  • And his final words when he was dying,
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  • was happy in Jesus.
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  • All is as well as it could be.
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  • Precious, Precious.
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  • And then he died.
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  • But everyone in that room knew what his last word was.
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  • It was Jesus.
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  • (inspirational music)
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