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January 10, 2019
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Bil Cornelius hosts Sheila Walsh.

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT, ON
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  • "PRAISE": FROM DALLAS...
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  • AUTHOR, SPEAKER, AND BIBLE
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  • TEACHER...
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  • SHEILA WALSH.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • AND, NOW, BIL CORNELIUS.
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  • - BIL CORNELIUS: WELCOME!
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  • IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
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  • THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
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  • ON THIS EDITION OF "PRAISE," WE
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  • HAVE AN AMAZING GUEST WITH US.
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  • YOU'RE GONNA ABSOLUTELY LOVE
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  • THIS PROGRAM.
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  • YOU'RE GONNA BE FILLED WITH THE
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  • HOPE OF GOD, TODAY.
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  • I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE
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  • WITH US.
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  • WE HAVE SHEILA WALSH WITH US.
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  • AUTHOR, SPEAKER, TRAVELS THE
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  • WORLD PREACHING AND SINGING.
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  • I MEAN, SHE'S GOT DOUBLE THE
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  • GIFTS.
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  • I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED BY
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  • THAT.
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  • THIS GIRL CAN DO IT ALL.
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  • WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT TIME.
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  • AND YOU'RE GONNA GET THE
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  • ENCOURAGEMENT THAT YOU NEED.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER:
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  • SHEILA WALSH:
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  • A SCOTTISH-BORN EVANGELIST
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  • WHO LOVES TO TEACH GOD'S WORD
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  • AND SHARE HOW HE MET
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  • HER AT HER LOWEST POINT AND
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  • LIFTED HER UP AGAIN.
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  • HER MESSAGE IS SIMPLE:
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  • GOD IS FOR YOU.
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  • - SHEILA WALSH: THERE'S
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  • NOTHING YOU'VE EVER DONE,
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  • NOTHING YOU'VE EVER SAID,
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  • NO PLACE YOU'VE EVER GONE, EVEN
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  • IF IT WAS LAST NIGHT,
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  • THAT HAS REMOVED YOU
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  • FROM THE POWER OF
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  • THE LOVE OF GOD.
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  • - FEMALE VOICEOVER: SHEILA, AN
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  • AVID WRITER, HAS AUTHORED
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  • SEVERAL BOOKS WITH MORE THAN
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  • 5 MILLION IN PRINT, INCLUDING,
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  • "IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE OKAY:
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  • MOVING FORWARD ONE DAY AT A
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  • TIME."
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  • SHE'S ALSO THE CO-HOST OF THE
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  • TELEVISION PROGRAM
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  • "LIFE TODAY,"
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  • WITH OVER 300 MILLION
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  • VIEWERS DAILY.
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  • SHEILA LOVES TO SUPPORT
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  • MISSIONS THAT PROVIDE FOOD,
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  • MEDICAL SUPPORT, AND PROTECTION
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  • FROM SEXUAL SLAVERY FOR THOSE
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  • IN NEED.
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  • FOR HER, IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY
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  • SHEILA WALSH.
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  • - BIL: IT IS SO GREAT TO HAVE
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  • YOU!
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  • - SHEILA: IT'S FUN TO BE HERE
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  • WITH YOU.
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  • - BIL: WELL, THANKS SO MUCH.
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  • THIS IS-- THIS IS REALLY AN
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  • HONOR.
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  • YOU KNOW, YOU ARE A HERO OF THE
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  • FAITH TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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  • - SHEILA: OH, THANK YOU...
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  • - BIL: NO, IT'S TRUE.
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  • IT REALLY IS.
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  • AND I KNOW-- I GOTTA BE HONEST
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  • -- MY WIFE IS A LITTLE JEALOUS
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  • THAT I GOT TO COME AND DO THIS
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  • INTERVIEW WITH YOU AND JUST
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  • TALK WITH YOU.
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  • AND SO, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU
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  • HERE.
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  • THIS IS REALLY GONNA BE A
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  • SPECIAL PROGRAM.
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  • AND, I KNOW YOU HAVE AN AMAZING
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  • NEW BOOK.
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  • BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, THOUGH,
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  • YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK: MAN, MY
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  • LIFE...IF IT WAS ONLY AS GREAT
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  • AS SHEILA WALSH'S.
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  • [SHEILA LAUGHS]
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  • I MEAN, EVERYTHING MUST JUST GO
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  • PERFECT FOR HER GROWIN' UP.
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  • IT JUST MUST HAVE BEEN ALL ROSY
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  • AND GREAT.
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  • BUT I WANT YOU TO TELL US THE
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  • REAL STORY.
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  • WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE AND
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  • TELL US HOW GOD BROUGHT YOU TO
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  • - SHEILA: WELL, I WAS BORN IN
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  • THE WEST COAST OF SCOTLAND, A
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  • SMALL FISHING VILLAGE, AND I
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  • WAS BORN TO A MOM AND DAD WHO
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  • LOVED JESUS, WHICH WOULDN'T BE
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  • BUT IN SCOTLAND, AT THAT POINT,
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  • LESS THAN 3 PERCENT OF OUR
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  • POPULATION EVEN WENT TO CHURCH.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: SO, TO HAVE A MOM
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  • AND DAD WHO DIDN'T JUST GO TO
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  • CHURCH BUT WHO REALLY LOVED
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  • JESUS WAS SUCH A GIFT.
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  • MY SISTER, WHO'S TWO YEARS
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  • OLDER -- SHE'S KIND OF WHAT
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  • EVERY MOTHER HOPES FOR.
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  • YOU KNOW, SHE LIKED ALL
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  • THE KIND OF RIBBONS AND
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  • "STICKY-OUTTY" DRESSES.
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  • BUT I WAS A TOMBOY, SO I ADORED
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  • MY DAD.
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  • I THOUGHT THERE WAS NOBODY ON
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  • THIS EARTH QUITE LIKE MY
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  • FATHER.
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  • UM, BUT, WHEN I WAS ABOUT
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  • 5 YEARS OLD, MY FATHER HAD A
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  • MASSIVE BRAIN ANEURISM
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  • WHICH CHANGED HIS PERSONALITY.
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  • AND HE WENT FROM BEING THIS
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  • WARM, LOVING DAD TO A CONFUSED
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  • AND ULTIMATELY VIOLENT
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  • STRANGER.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: AND THE LAST DAY I
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  • EVER SAW MY DAD, I TURNED JUST
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  • IN TIME TO SEE THAT HE WAS
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  • ABOUT TO BRING HIS CANE DOWN ON
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  • MY SKULL.
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  • AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I
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  • PUSHED IT OR PULLED IT, BUT, HE
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  • LOST HIS BALANCE AND LAY ON THE
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  • GROUND JUST ROARING LIKE AN
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  • ANIMAL.
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  • AND THE LAST LOOK IN MY
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  • FATHER'S EYES WAS ONE OF
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  • ABSOLUTE HATRED.
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  • AND HE WAS TAKEN OFF THAT
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  • DAY TO WHAT WAS THEN
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  • CALLED OUR LOCAL LUNATIC
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  • ASYLUM.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: IT'S WHAT YOU CALL A
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  • PSYCH HOSPITAL THESE DAYS.
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  • HE WAS 34 YEARS OLD.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: BUT HE MANAGED TO
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  • ESCAPE ONE NIGHT AND HE DROWNED
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  • HIMSELF IN THE RIVER BEHIND THE
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  • HOSPITAL.
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  • AND, YOU DIDN'T TAKE CHILDREN
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  • TO FUNERALS IN SCOTLAND,
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  • TO A GRAVESITE.
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  • ALL I REMEMBER IS MY MOM COMING
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  • HOME IN A BLACK DRESS WITH A
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  • BLACK HAT ON AND TAKING EVERY
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  • SINGLE PICTURE OF MY FATHER OFF
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  • THE WALLS OR OFF THE TABLE AND
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  • PUTTING THEM IN A LITTLE
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  • SUITCASE, WHICH SHE LOCKED AND
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  • PUSHED UNDER THE BED, AND WE
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  • NEVER MENTIONED HIS NAME AGAIN.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: I THINK WE KNOW SO
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  • MUCH MORE NOW ABOUT HOW TO HELP
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  • CHILDREN PROCESS GRIEF.
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  • I THINK MY MOM THOUGHT, "I'LL
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  • LET SHEILA BRING THE
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  • CONVERSATION UP."
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  • - BIL: SURE.
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  • - SHEILA: SHE HAD NO WAY OF
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  • KNOWING THAT THERE WAS A
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  • QUESTION THAT BURNED INSIDE OF
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  • ME THAT NO ONE COULD ANSWER.
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  • WHAT DID MY DAD SEE IN ME THAT
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  • MADE HIM HATE ME SO MUCH?
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  • - BIL: UGH...
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  • - SHEILA: SO, I GREW UP WITH
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  • WHAT I CALL A PROFOUND SENSE OF
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  • SHAME.
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  • AND HERE'S HOW I DIFFERENTIATE
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  • BETWEEN SHAME AND GUILT.
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  • - BIL: YEAH.
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  • - SHEILA: IF I SAID SOMETHING
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  • UNKIND TO YOU, I WOULD FEEL
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  • GUILTY UNTIL I COULD SAY:
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  • "LISTEN, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
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  • THAT WAS ALL MY FAULT."
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  • - BIL: RIGHT.
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  • - SHEILA: SO, GUILT TELLS ME
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  • I'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG.
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  • - BIL: RIGHT.
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  • - SHEILA: SHAME TELLS ME I AM
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  • SOMETHING WRONG.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: AND WHAT DO YOU DO
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  • WITH THAT?
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  • AND I REMEMBER THE NIGHT-- I
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  • GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST WHEN I
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  • WAS 11.
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  • MY MOM PRAYED FOR ME.
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  • AND SHE SAID SOMETHING THAT
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  • WOULD BE GOOD NEWS TO MOST
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  • PEOPLE.
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  • SHE SAID, "SHEILA, NOT ONLY IS
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  • CHRIST YOUR SAVIOR AND YOUR
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  • LORD, YOU HAVE A HEAVENLY
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  • FATHER WATCHING OUT FOR YOU,
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  • WATCHING OVER YOU."
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: BUT I REMEMBER AT 11
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  • THINKING: I'VE GOT ONE MORE
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  • CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.
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  • WHATEVER MY EARTHLY DAD SAW IN
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  • ME THAT MADE HIM HATE ME, MY
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  • HEAVENLY FATHER IS NEVER GONNA
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  • SEE IN ME.
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  • I'M GONNA BE THE PERFECT
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  • CHRISTIAN, IF IT KILLS ME.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: AND IT-- BUT IT--
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  • YOU KNOW, IT NEARLY DID.
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  • - BIL: YEAH.
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  • WOW.
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  • YEAH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT
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  • CAN JUST PUT YOU IN SUCH A
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  • PERFORMANCE TRAP SO QUICK.
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  • - SHEILA: ABSOLUTELY.
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  • IT'S WHY I WENT TO SEMINARY
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  • WHEN I WAS 19.
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  • I WENT TO LONDON THEOLOGICAL
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  • SEMINARY TO TRAIN TO BE A
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  • MISSIONARY IN INDIA, 'CAUSE I
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  • COULDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING I
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  • WOULD HATE MORE.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: I ACTUALLY THOUGHT
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  • HOW PROUD OF ME GOD WOULD BE,
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  • THINKING: LOOK AT HER -- SHE'S
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  • TRAVELING, WHICH SHE HATES TO
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  • DO, GOING TO A COUNTRY WITH
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  • VERY LARGE CRAWLY BEASTIES, UM,
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  • ALL BECAUSE SHE LOVES ME.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • WHAT A GIRL.
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  • - BIL: SO, IT'S LIKE TO PLEASE
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  • GOD--
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  • - SHEILA: YEAH!
  • 00:05:52.200 --> 00:05:53.160
  • - BIL: --I CAN DO SOMETHING
  • 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:54.060
  • THAT I DON'T WANNA DO?
  • 00:05:54.060 --> 00:05:54.230
  • - SHEILA: LIKE: WATCH ME,
  • 00:05:54.230 --> 00:05:55.120
  • LORD.
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  • WATCH ME.
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  • - BIL: WOW.
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  • - SHEILA: AND GOD REDIRECTED
  • 00:05:56.140 --> 00:05:57.050
  • MY STEPS.
  • 00:05:57.050 --> 00:05:57.160
  • I ENDED UP WORKING WITH
  • 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:58.040
  • BILLY GRAHAM AND HIS CRUSADES.
  • 00:05:58.040 --> 00:05:59.000
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:05:59.000 --> 00:05:59.240
  • - SHEILA: AND, THEN, UM, I
  • 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.000
  • GOT AN INVITATION TO BECOME
  • 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:02.090
  • PAT ROBERTSON'S CO-HOST ON
  • 00:06:02.090 --> 00:06:04.190
  • "THE 700 CLUB"...
  • 00:06:04.190 --> 00:06:05.210
  • - BIL: INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:06:05.210 --> 00:06:06.100
  • - SHEILA: ...FOR FIVE YEARS.
  • 00:06:06.100 --> 00:06:07.050
  • BUT INSIDE?
  • 00:06:07.050 --> 00:06:08.050
  • I WAS STILL THE SAME SCARED
  • 00:06:08.050 --> 00:06:09.260
  • LITTLE BROKEN GIRL WHO WOULDN'T
  • 00:06:09.260 --> 00:06:11.010
  • LET ANYBODY GET CLOSE TO HER,
  • 00:06:11.010 --> 00:06:13.250
  • IN CASE YOU SAW WHAT MY FATHER
  • 00:06:13.250 --> 00:06:14.170
  • SAW.
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  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:06:15.080 --> 00:06:15.280
  • - SHEILA: DO YOU KNOW IT'S
  • 00:06:15.280 --> 00:06:16.180
  • POSSIBLE TO BE VERY WELL-KNOWN
  • 00:06:16.180 --> 00:06:18.060
  • AND DESPERATELY LONELY?
  • 00:06:18.060 --> 00:06:20.140
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:06:20.140 --> 00:06:20.270
  • - SHEILA: THAT'S HOW I LIVED.
  • 00:06:20.270 --> 00:06:21.210
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:06:21.210 --> 00:06:22.070
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S CRAZY -- YOU CAN
  • 00:06:22.070 --> 00:06:23.130
  • BE RICH AND BE LONELY, YOU CAN
  • 00:06:23.130 --> 00:06:24.250
  • BE MARRIED AND BE LONELY.
  • 00:06:24.250 --> 00:06:26.080
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:06:26.080 --> 00:06:27.190
  • - BIL: YOU CAN BE WORSHIPING
  • 00:06:27.190 --> 00:06:28.100
  • GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, ON
  • 00:06:28.100 --> 00:06:29.020
  • SUNDAY, AND BE LONELY.
  • 00:06:29.020 --> 00:06:29.240
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:30.240
  • - BIL: IT'S AMAZING HOW THAT
  • 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:31.150
  • HAPPENS.
  • 00:06:31.150 --> 00:06:32.270
  • NOW, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA ASK
  • 00:06:32.270 --> 00:06:33.190
  • ABOUT SOMETHING, TOO.
  • 00:06:33.190 --> 00:06:34.140
  • YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR MOM.
  • 00:06:34.140 --> 00:06:36.150
  • SHE PROBABLY JUST DID THE BEST
  • 00:06:36.150 --> 00:06:37.060
  • SHE COULD.
  • 00:06:37.060 --> 00:06:37.170
  • - SHEILA: OH, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:06:37.170 --> 00:06:39.260
  • MY MOM WAS AMAZING.
  • 00:06:39.260 --> 00:06:41.060
  • - BIL: SHE PROBABLY JUST
  • 00:06:41.060 --> 00:06:41.250
  • DIDN'T KNOW--
  • 00:06:41.250 --> 00:06:43.020
  • I MEAN, NO ONE TALKED ABOUT
  • 00:06:43.020 --> 00:06:43.220
  • MENTAL-HEALTH ISSUES...
  • 00:06:43.220 --> 00:06:44.100
  • - SHEILA: NO.
  • 00:06:44.100 --> 00:06:44.230
  • - BIL: ...AT LEAST THAT I
  • 00:06:44.230 --> 00:06:45.120
  • REMEMBER UNTIL LAST --
  • 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:45.290
  • PROBABLY, WHAT?
  • 00:06:45.290 --> 00:06:46.130
  • FIVE OR TEN YEARS.
  • 00:06:46.130 --> 00:06:47.080
  • - SHEILA: AND PARTICULARLY IN
  • 00:06:47.080 --> 00:06:48.080
  • SCOTLAND.
  • 00:06:48.080 --> 00:06:48.190
  • I MEAN, IN SCOTLAND-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:06:48.190 --> 00:06:49.180
  • I WAS BROUGHT UP IN A VERY
  • 00:06:49.180 --> 00:06:50.070
  • CONSERVATIVE--
  • 00:06:50.070 --> 00:06:50.280
  • I MEAN, MY CHURCH -- MY
  • 00:06:50.280 --> 00:06:52.020
  • GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER
  • 00:06:52.020 --> 00:06:52.290
  • MADE THE COMMUNION TABLE.
  • 00:06:52.290 --> 00:06:54.110
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, WE CAME
  • 00:06:55.270 --> 00:06:56.170
  • FROM THIS LONG LINE OF GODLY,
  • 00:06:56.170 --> 00:06:58.020
  • STRONG WOMEN.
  • 00:06:58.020 --> 00:06:58.280
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:06:58.280 --> 00:06:59.190
  • - SHEILA: BUT WE DIDN'T TALK
  • 00:06:59.190 --> 00:07:01.210
  • ABOUT THE THINGS THAT REALLY
  • 00:07:01.210 --> 00:07:02.110
  • HURT US.
  • 00:07:02.110 --> 00:07:02.220
  • YOU KNOW, WE JUST CARRIED ON.
  • 00:07:02.220 --> 00:07:03.220
  • BUT GOD IN HIS MERCY -- THAT'S
  • 00:07:03.220 --> 00:07:05.150
  • WHAT BLOWS ME AWAY ABOUT THE
  • 00:07:05.150 --> 00:07:06.150
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:07:08.260 --> 00:07:09.090
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, HE-- GOD
  • 00:07:09.090 --> 00:07:10.040
  • KNEW I WAS JUST SURVIVING.
  • 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:10.240
  • AND HE SET UP A RESCUE PLAN
  • 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.090
  • THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE SIGNED
  • 00:07:12.090 --> 00:07:14.150
  • UP FOR.
  • 00:07:14.150 --> 00:07:16.110
  • BUT GOD'S PLANS ARE SO MUCH
  • 00:07:16.110 --> 00:07:17.060
  • GREATER THAN WE CAN IMAGINE.
  • 00:07:17.060 --> 00:07:17.270
  • - CASSIE: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:07:17.270 --> 00:07:18.180
  • - SHEILA: AND WHAT HAPPENED TO
  • 00:07:18.180 --> 00:07:19.160
  • ME WAS ONE MORNING ON LIVE
  • 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.070
  • TELEVISION, MY GUEST, INSTEAD
  • 00:07:22.070 --> 00:07:24.010
  • OF ANSWERING MY QUESTION,
  • 00:07:24.010 --> 00:07:25.150
  • TURNED THE TABLES AND SAID TO
  • 00:07:25.150 --> 00:07:27.050
  • ME: "SHEILA, YOU SIT HERE EVERY
  • 00:07:27.050 --> 00:07:28.140
  • DAY ASKING HOW WE'RE DOING.
  • 00:07:28.140 --> 00:07:30.050
  • HOW ARE YOU DOING?"
  • 00:07:30.050 --> 00:07:32.100
  • AND SHE MEANT IT KINDLY.
  • 00:07:32.100 --> 00:07:33.270
  • BUT I WASN'T PREPARED FOR IT
  • 00:07:33.270 --> 00:07:34.180
  • AND I HADN'T TIME TO PULL UP
  • 00:07:34.180 --> 00:07:35.080
  • THAT WALL.
  • 00:07:35.080 --> 00:07:36.110
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:07:36.110 --> 00:07:37.100
  • - SHEILA: AND I FELL APART ON
  • 00:07:37.100 --> 00:07:38.010
  • NATIONAL TELEVISION.
  • 00:07:38.010 --> 00:07:39.260
  • - BIL: HUH.
  • 00:07:39.260 --> 00:07:40.240
  • - SHEILA: AND, BY THAT
  • 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.010
  • EVENING, I WAS IN THE LOCKED
  • 00:07:42.010 --> 00:07:42.210
  • WARD OF A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
  • 00:07:42.210 --> 00:07:43.130
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:07:43.130 --> 00:07:43.260
  • WOW.
  • 00:07:43.260 --> 00:07:44.120
  • GOODNESS.
  • 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.040
  • SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING
  • 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:48.010
  • YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK
  • 00:07:48.010 --> 00:07:48.230
  • GOD ALLOWS PEOPLE TO MAKE A
  • 00:07:48.230 --> 00:07:50.210
  • GIANT MISTAKE, OR A FALL, OR A
  • 00:07:50.220 --> 00:07:53.220
  • FAILURE, OR JUST KIND OF FALL
  • 00:07:53.220 --> 00:07:55.120
  • APART IN A PUBLIC SETTING
  • 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.050
  • BECAUSE, THAT WAY, YOU CAN'T
  • 00:07:58.050 --> 00:07:59.210
  • DENY IT OR HIDE IT ANY LONGER,
  • 00:07:59.210 --> 00:08:00.170
  • SO NOW YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH
  • 00:08:00.170 --> 00:08:02.030
  • IT.
  • 00:08:02.030 --> 00:08:02.140
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:08:02.140 --> 00:08:03.040
  • - BIL: SO, HERE YOU ARE IN THE
  • 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:04.010
  • PSYCH WARD, AND YOU'RE LIKE:
  • 00:08:04.010 --> 00:08:05.180
  • I'M MISS CHRISTIAN LEADER
  • 00:08:05.180 --> 00:08:07.030
  • EVERYONE LOOKS TO...AND MY LIFE
  • 00:08:07.030 --> 00:08:07.250
  • IS CRUMBLING.
  • 00:08:07.250 --> 00:08:09.230
  • WHAT'S GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND,
  • 00:08:09.230 --> 00:08:10.250
  • AT THIS POINT?
  • 00:08:10.250 --> 00:08:11.190
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT WAS
  • 00:08:11.190 --> 00:08:12.090
  • INTERESTING BECAUSE THE PERSON
  • 00:08:12.090 --> 00:08:13.100
  • WHO WAS THE MOST SUPPORTIVE
  • 00:08:13.100 --> 00:08:14.160
  • AND LOVING TOWARD ME WAS
  • 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.290
  • PAT ROBERTSON.
  • 00:08:16.290 --> 00:08:18.060
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:08:18.060 --> 00:08:19.180
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, HE WAS--
  • 00:08:19.180 --> 00:08:20.190
  • I MEAN, HE WAS MY BOSS, HE WAS
  • 00:08:20.190 --> 00:08:21.100
  • THE MAN I LOOKED UP TO, A
  • 00:08:21.100 --> 00:08:21.290
  • MENTOR.
  • 00:08:21.290 --> 00:08:22.150
  • HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE
  • 00:08:22.150 --> 00:08:23.060
  • SAYING, "YOU KNOW, WE'RE
  • 00:08:23.060 --> 00:08:23.290
  • TALKING ABOUT HEALING AND
  • 00:08:23.290 --> 00:08:24.260
  • MIRACLES, HERE, AND YOU'RE
  • 00:08:24.260 --> 00:08:25.150
  • FALLING OFF YOUR CHAIR."
  • 00:08:25.150 --> 00:08:26.260
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:08:26.260 --> 00:08:27.090
  • - SHEILA: BUT HE WAS THE MOST
  • 00:08:27.090 --> 00:08:28.010
  • LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE.
  • 00:08:28.010 --> 00:08:29.010
  • BUT ONE OF OUR SENIOR STAFF
  • 00:08:29.010 --> 00:08:31.050
  • TOOK ME FOR A WALK AROUND OUR
  • 00:08:31.050 --> 00:08:32.170
  • BUILDING BEFORE I HEADED TO
  • 00:08:32.170 --> 00:08:34.100
  • THE HOSPITAL AND HE SAID:
  • 00:08:34.100 --> 00:08:35.110
  • "YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
  • 00:08:35.110 --> 00:08:37.130
  • IF PEOPLE FIND OUT WHERE YOU'RE
  • 00:08:37.130 --> 00:08:38.220
  • GOING, THEY WILL NEVER TRUST
  • 00:08:38.220 --> 00:08:39.130
  • YOU AGAIN, YOUR MINISTRY WILL
  • 00:08:39.130 --> 00:08:40.070
  • BE OVER."
  • 00:08:40.070 --> 00:08:41.010
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:08:41.010 --> 00:08:41.270
  • - SHEILA: "YOU'RE THE WEAK
  • 00:08:41.270 --> 00:08:42.170
  • LINK, HERE.
  • 00:08:42.170 --> 00:08:43.050
  • YOU KNOW, THE ENEMY'S TRYING TO
  • 00:08:43.050 --> 00:08:44.060
  • USE YOU TO DESTROY THIS
  • 00:08:44.060 --> 00:08:44.240
  • MINISTRY."
  • 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:45.250
  • AND I FELT SO--
  • 00:08:45.250 --> 00:08:47.280
  • I MEAN, I ALREADY FELT SO
  • 00:08:47.280 --> 00:08:48.170
  • GUILTY.
  • 00:08:48.170 --> 00:08:49.050
  • - BIL: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:08:49.050 --> 00:08:49.210
  • - SHEILA: AND IT JUST MADE ME
  • 00:08:49.210 --> 00:08:51.170
  • FEEL SO MUCH WORSE.
  • 00:08:51.170 --> 00:08:52.250
  • AND HE SAID, "YOU NEED TO SAVE
  • 00:08:52.250 --> 00:08:53.170
  • YOUR MINISTRY."
  • 00:08:53.170 --> 00:08:54.010
  • AND I SAID--
  • 00:08:54.010 --> 00:08:54.280
  • - BIL: HE MEANT IT GOOD.
  • 00:08:54.280 --> 00:08:55.170
  • HE MEANT IT WELL, I'M SURE.
  • 00:08:55.170 --> 00:08:57.060
  • - SHEILA: HE DID.
  • 00:08:57.060 --> 00:08:57.270
  • BUT WHAT I SAID TO HIM WAS,
  • 00:08:57.270 --> 00:08:58.170
  • "I'M NOT TRYING TO SAVE MY
  • 00:08:58.170 --> 00:08:59.080
  • MINISTRY; I'M TRYING TO SAVE MY
  • 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:00.020
  • LIFE."
  • 00:09:00.020 --> 00:09:00.120
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:00.240
  • WOW.
  • 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:01.120
  • - SHEILA: AND THAT'S THE
  • 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:02.110
  • AMAZING THING ABOUT GOD.
  • 00:09:02.110 --> 00:09:04.000
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:04.130
  • THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:09:04.130 --> 00:09:05.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:09:07.270 --> 00:09:10.270
  • YOU KNOW, SHEILA, THE THING IS
  • 00:09:10.270 --> 00:09:11.190
  • IS THAT I DON'T THINK YOUR
  • 00:09:11.190 --> 00:09:12.090
  • SITUATION'S UNIQUE AT ALL.
  • 00:09:12.090 --> 00:09:12.280
  • - SHEILA: MMH.
  • 00:09:12.280 --> 00:09:13.120
  • - BIL: I THINK THIS IS
  • 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.000
  • SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY
  • 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:15.040
  • RESONATE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 00:09:15.040 --> 00:09:15.240
  • - AUDIENCE MEMBER: AMEN.
  • 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:16.190
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:09:16.190 --> 00:09:17.200
  • - BIL: BUT NOBODY WANTS TO SAY
  • 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.120
  • IT.
  • 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:19.240
  • - SHEILA: I KNOW.
  • 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:20.100
  • - BIL: IT'S THE ELEPHANT IN
  • 00:09:20.100 --> 00:09:21.010
  • THE ROOM.
  • 00:09:21.010 --> 00:09:21.120
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:21.260
  • YOU KNOW WHAT WAS INTERESTING
  • 00:09:21.260 --> 00:09:22.190
  • WAS I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT
  • 00:09:22.190 --> 00:09:23.180
  • THE FACT THAT THIS UNIT I WAS
  • 00:09:23.180 --> 00:09:24.170
  • IN WAS A CHRISTIAN UNIT WITHOUT
  • 00:09:24.170 --> 00:09:26.090
  • A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
  • 00:09:26.090 --> 00:09:27.100
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:09:27.100 --> 00:09:27.250
  • - SHEILA: SO, IT HADN'T
  • 00:09:27.250 --> 00:09:28.270
  • OCCURRED TO ME THAT SOME OF
  • 00:09:28.270 --> 00:09:29.280
  • THESE OTHER PATIENTS WOULD KNOW
  • 00:09:29.280 --> 00:09:31.090
  • WHO I WAS.
  • 00:09:31.090 --> 00:09:31.220
  • [BIL LAUGHS]
  • 00:09:31.220 --> 00:09:32.100
  • AND THAT FIRST MORNING, YOU
  • 00:09:32.100 --> 00:09:33.090
  • KNOW, THEY TAKE AWAY YOUR BELT,
  • 00:09:33.090 --> 00:09:34.160
  • YOUR HOSE, YOUR MAKE-UP, YOUR
  • 00:09:34.160 --> 00:09:35.270
  • HAIRDRYER -- ANYTHING YOU'D
  • 00:09:35.270 --> 00:09:37.050
  • HURT YOURSELF WITH.
  • 00:09:37.050 --> 00:09:37.280
  • I REMEMBER SAYING TO THE NURSE,
  • 00:09:37.280 --> 00:09:39.070
  • "TRUST ME, I HAVE NO INTENTIONS
  • 00:09:39.070 --> 00:09:40.190
  • OF BLOW-DRYING MYSELF TO
  • 00:09:40.190 --> 00:09:42.050
  • DEATH."
  • 00:09:42.050 --> 00:09:42.210
  • - BIL: RIGHT, RIGHT.
  • 00:09:42.210 --> 00:09:43.080
  • - SHEILA: BUT SHE WAS NOT
  • 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:43.270
  • IMPRESSED.
  • 00:09:43.270 --> 00:09:44.080
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:44.210
  • - SHEILA: BUT THE NEXT
  • 00:09:44.210 --> 00:09:45.240
  • MORNING, I PUT ON MY BATHROBE
  • 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:46.150
  • AND I WANDERED ALONG TO WHERE
  • 00:09:46.150 --> 00:09:48.010
  • THE OTHER PATIENTS WERE.
  • 00:09:48.010 --> 00:09:48.270
  • AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS
  • 00:09:48.270 --> 00:09:49.270
  • WHEN...YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:09:49.270 --> 00:09:52.120
  • TALKING UNTIL YOU WALK IN, AND
  • 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:53.160
  • THERE'S JUST LIKE...SILENCE.
  • 00:09:54.020 --> 00:09:57.020
  • AND THIS ONE GUY ACTUALLY SAID,
  • 00:09:57.020 --> 00:09:57.240
  • "ARE YOU SHEILA WALSH?"
  • 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:00.230
  • AND I SAID, "YEAH!"
  • 00:10:00.230 --> 00:10:02.070
  • AND HE SAID, "WELL, WHAT ARE
  • 00:10:02.070 --> 00:10:02.270
  • YOU DOING HERE?"
  • 00:10:02.270 --> 00:10:03.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:03.110 --> 00:10:03.280
  • AND I SAID, "I'M A PATIENT."
  • 00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:05.250
  • AND HE SAID, "YEAH, RIGHT."
  • 00:10:05.250 --> 00:10:06.150
  • AND I SAID: "YOU THINK I'M HERE
  • 00:10:06.150 --> 00:10:07.150
  • TO DO A DOCUMENTARY IN MY
  • 00:10:07.150 --> 00:10:08.040
  • BATHROBE?
  • 00:10:08.040 --> 00:10:10.140
  • I DON'T THINK SO."
  • 00:10:10.140 --> 00:10:11.000
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:11.190
  • - SHEILA: AND HE SAID
  • 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:12.080
  • SOMETHING THAT WAS HARD TO
  • 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.220
  • HEAR, BUT IT WAS PART OF MY
  • 00:10:13.220 --> 00:10:14.230
  • HEALING.
  • 00:10:14.230 --> 00:10:15.250
  • HE SAID: "HEY, I DON'T MEAN TO
  • 00:10:15.250 --> 00:10:16.160
  • OFFEND YOU.
  • 00:10:16.160 --> 00:10:17.260
  • WE ALL WATCH YOU EVERY MORNING.
  • 00:10:17.260 --> 00:10:18.190
  • YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING
  • 00:10:18.190 --> 00:10:19.280
  • US."
  • 00:10:19.280 --> 00:10:20.090
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:10:20.090 --> 00:10:20.260
  • - SHEILA: BUT WHEN YOU
  • 00:10:20.260 --> 00:10:21.140
  • FINALLY FALL OFF YOUR SHELF...
  • 00:10:23.020 --> 00:10:26.020
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:10:26.020 --> 00:10:26.170
  • - SHEILA: ...AND JOIN THE REST
  • 00:10:26.170 --> 00:10:27.090
  • OF PEOPLE WHO LOVE GOD BUT
  • 00:10:27.090 --> 00:10:27.290
  • DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS,
  • 00:10:27.290 --> 00:10:28.190
  • THOSE WHO ARE BEAUTIFULLY
  • 00:10:28.190 --> 00:10:29.180
  • BROKEN BY CHRIST...
  • 00:10:29.180 --> 00:10:31.230
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:32.110
  • THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:32.250
  • WOW.
  • 00:10:32.250 --> 00:10:33.190
  • YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THE FIRST
  • 00:10:33.190 --> 00:10:34.110
  • TIME I SHARED IN CHURCH SOME
  • 00:10:34.110 --> 00:10:35.150
  • SHORTCOMINGS AND MY WIFE WAS
  • 00:10:35.150 --> 00:10:38.140
  • LIKE, "PEOPLE ARE GONNA FREAK
  • 00:10:38.140 --> 00:10:40.210
  • OUT THAT YOU STRUGGLE WITH THIS
  • 00:10:40.210 --> 00:10:41.130
  • OR THAT."
  • 00:10:41.130 --> 00:10:42.240
  • AND THE EXACT OPPOSITE
  • 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:43.120
  • HAPPENED.
  • 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:43.230
  • PEOPLE WERE DRAWN TO IT.
  • 00:10:43.230 --> 00:10:45.170
  • I JUST BELIEVE GOD USES A
  • 00:10:45.170 --> 00:10:46.060
  • BROKENNESS IN YOU TO THIS DAY
  • 00:10:46.060 --> 00:10:48.230
  • THAT'S ATTRACTIVE.
  • 00:10:48.230 --> 00:10:49.250
  • IT DRAWS PEOPLE TO YOUR
  • 00:10:49.250 --> 00:10:50.270
  • MINISTRY, INTO YOUR WORDS.
  • 00:10:50.270 --> 00:10:52.110
  • IT GIVES YOU MORE INFLUENCE,
  • 00:10:52.110 --> 00:10:53.010
  • NOT LESS INFLUENCE.
  • 00:10:53.010 --> 00:10:53.280
  • IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT
  • 00:10:53.280 --> 00:10:54.200
  • WE THINK.
  • 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:55.010
  • - SHEILA: YEAH, AND I THINK WE
  • 00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:56.050
  • NEED TO DECIDE WHO IS THE HERO
  • 00:10:56.050 --> 00:10:57.240
  • OF OUR STORY.
  • 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.200
  • - BIL: MMH.
  • 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:00.060
  • - SHEILA: I'M NOT THE HERO OF
  • 00:11:00.060 --> 00:11:00.270
  • MY STORY.
  • 00:11:00.270 --> 00:11:01.080
  • JESUS IS THE HERO OF MY STORY.
  • 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:02.270
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:11:02.270 --> 00:11:03.140
  • SO GOOD.
  • 00:11:03.140 --> 00:11:03.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:11:03.270 --> 00:11:04.150
  • - SHEILA: I'M NOT THE GOOD
  • 00:11:04.150 --> 00:11:05.050
  • NEWS.
  • 00:11:05.050 --> 00:11:05.140
  • HE'S THE GOOD NEWS.
  • 00:11:05.140 --> 00:11:06.000
  • - BIL: LOVE THAT.
  • 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:06.150
  • THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:11:06.150 --> 00:11:06.290
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:11:06.290 --> 00:11:07.110
  • WOW.
  • 00:11:07.110 --> 00:11:08.130
  • NOW, YOU'VE WRITTEN A LOT OF
  • 00:11:08.130 --> 00:11:10.040
  • BOOKS, BUT THIS ONE'S OBVIOUSLY
  • 00:11:10.040 --> 00:11:11.160
  • MUCH MORE PERSONAL THAN
  • 00:11:11.160 --> 00:11:12.240
  • PROBABLY ANY BOOK YOU HAVE.
  • 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:14.100
  • I MEAN, THIS IS--
  • 00:11:14.100 --> 00:11:14.250
  • "IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE OKAY."
  • 00:11:15.050 --> 00:11:18.050
  • I LOVE THAT TITLE.
  • 00:11:18.050 --> 00:11:19.080
  • LIKE, I'M ALREADY THINKIN',
  • 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:20.240
  • "I'M STEALIN' THIS COPY
  • 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:21.260
  • AND TAKIN' THIS ONE
  • 00:11:21.260 --> 00:11:22.120
  • HOME WITH ME."
  • 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:22.250
  • [SHEILA LAUGHS]
  • 00:11:22.250 --> 00:11:23.140
  • THIS LOOKS INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:11:23.140 --> 00:11:24.060
  • FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:24.270
  • ANYONE WHO DOESN'T FEEL LIKE
  • 00:11:24.270 --> 00:11:26.040
  • THEY'RE NOT OKAY MOST OF THE
  • 00:11:26.040 --> 00:11:27.010
  • - SHEILA: THE REASON I WROTE
  • 00:11:28.270 --> 00:11:30.090
  • THAT WAS BECAUSE I'VE WRITTEN
  • 00:11:30.090 --> 00:11:32.070
  • IN THE PAST ABOUT SOME OF MY
  • 00:11:32.070 --> 00:11:32.270
  • STRUGGLES, ABOUT-- YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:11:32.270 --> 00:11:34.280
  • WAS DIAGNOSED WITH SEVERE
  • 00:11:34.280 --> 00:11:35.170
  • CLINICAL DEPRESSION.
  • 00:11:35.170 --> 00:11:36.110
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:11:36.110 --> 00:11:36.270
  • - SHEILA: BUT I WOULD GET SO
  • 00:11:36.270 --> 00:11:37.180
  • MANY NOTES, FACEBOOK COMMENTS
  • 00:11:37.180 --> 00:11:39.190
  • FROM PEOPLE SAYING: "THANK YOU
  • 00:11:39.190 --> 00:11:41.080
  • FOR LETTING ME KNOW I'M NOT
  • 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:42.030
  • ALONE.
  • 00:11:42.030 --> 00:11:42.190
  • BUT WHAT, NOW?
  • 00:11:42.190 --> 00:11:43.270
  • I FEEL STUCK.
  • 00:11:43.270 --> 00:11:45.020
  • I'M STRUGGLING."
  • 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:45.180
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:11:45.180 --> 00:11:46.130
  • - SHEILA: SO, I WANTED TO POUR
  • 00:11:46.130 --> 00:11:48.180
  • INTO THIS BOOK THE EIGHT THINGS
  • 00:11:48.180 --> 00:11:50.040
  • THAT GOD HAS TAUGHT ME TO MOVE
  • 00:11:50.040 --> 00:11:50.250
  • FORWARD IN LIFE.
  • 00:11:50.250 --> 00:11:52.020
  • - BIL: SO GOOD.
  • 00:11:52.020 --> 00:11:52.250
  • THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:11:52.250 --> 00:11:53.280
  • NOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND
  • 00:11:53.280 --> 00:11:55.120
  • THE VERY THING YOU SAY, "THE
  • 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:56.030
  • WHAT IS THE FIRST STEP?
  • 00:11:58.070 --> 00:11:59.060
  • I JUST SAW THAT AND I WAS LIKE,
  • 00:11:59.060 --> 00:11:59.280
  • OKAY, I GOTTA KNOW.
  • 00:11:59.280 --> 00:12:00.240
  • - SHEILA: FOR ME, THE FIRST
  • 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:01.280
  • STEP IS DARING TO HAVE A
  • 00:12:01.280 --> 00:12:03.280
  • GUT-LEVEL, UNEDITED
  • 00:12:03.280 --> 00:12:06.270
  • CONVERSATION WITH GOD.
  • 00:12:06.270 --> 00:12:07.230
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:12:07.230 --> 00:12:08.060
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN,
  • 00:12:08.060 --> 00:12:09.050
  • WE'RE AFRAID TO SAY WHAT WE
  • 00:12:09.050 --> 00:12:10.130
  • REALLY THINK BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
  • 00:12:10.130 --> 00:12:11.100
  • SOUND SPIRITUAL.
  • 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:12.030
  • BUT I BELIEVE TO THE LEVEL
  • 00:12:12.030 --> 00:12:13.190
  • WE'RE WILLING TO BE HONEST WITH
  • 00:12:13.190 --> 00:12:16.010
  • GOD IS AN INDICATION OF HOW
  • 00:12:16.010 --> 00:12:17.150
  • MUCH WE ACTUALLY TRUST HIM.
  • 00:12:17.150 --> 00:12:19.190
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:12:19.190 --> 00:12:20.040
  • - SHEILA: IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE
  • 00:12:20.040 --> 00:12:21.100
  • TO BE CAREFUL, YOU HAVE
  • 00:12:21.100 --> 00:12:22.080
  • MINIMIZED GOD.
  • 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:23.250
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:12:23.250 --> 00:12:24.120
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE
  • 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:25.080
  • GOD IS BIG.
  • 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:25.240
  • GOD CAN HANDLE.
  • 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.070
  • AND I THINK IT'S SUCH A--
  • 00:12:27.070 --> 00:12:28.220
  • IF YOU LOOK AT THE PSALMIST
  • 00:12:28.220 --> 00:12:30.180
  • DAVID, IF YOU LOOK AT JEREMIAH,
  • 00:12:30.180 --> 00:12:31.100
  • IF YOU LOOK AT SO MANY PEOPLE
  • 00:12:31.100 --> 00:12:33.230
  • WHO ARE LOOKED ON AS HEROES OF
  • 00:12:33.230 --> 00:12:35.090
  • THE FAITH, BUT THEY POURED
  • 00:12:35.090 --> 00:12:36.170
  • OUT-- JOB.
  • 00:12:36.170 --> 00:12:37.170
  • THEY POURED OUT THE TRUTH.
  • 00:12:37.170 --> 00:12:38.230
  • AND IT DIDN'T DISMISS THE
  • 00:12:38.230 --> 00:12:41.070
  • PRESENCE OF GOD; IT INVITED THE
  • 00:12:41.070 --> 00:12:43.170
  • PRESENCE OF GOD.
  • 00:12:43.170 --> 00:12:45.080
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:45.200
  • SO, JUST THAT RAW HONESTY.
  • 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:46.100
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:47.070
  • YEAH.
  • 00:12:47.070 --> 00:12:48.090
  • - BIL: I LOVE HOW DAVID SAID,
  • 00:12:48.090 --> 00:12:49.000
  • "SMITE MY ENEMIES."
  • 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:49.250
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:12:49.250 --> 00:12:50.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:12:50.090 --> 00:12:50.210
  • I'M LIKE...
  • 00:12:50.210 --> 00:12:51.160
  • HE SAYS TO HIM, "SO, SMITE MY
  • 00:12:51.160 --> 00:12:52.070
  • ENEMIES."
  • 00:12:52.070 --> 00:12:52.180
  • AND THEN, BY THE END OF IT,
  • 00:12:52.180 --> 00:12:53.080
  • HE'S LIKE, "OKAY, FINE, LORD,
  • 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:53.290
  • LOVE THEM, TOO."
  • 00:12:53.290 --> 00:12:54.130
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:12:54.130 --> 00:12:54.240
  • LIKE HE'S UPSET ABOUT IT.
  • 00:12:55.190 --> 00:12:58.190
  • AND I THINK WE ALL CAN RELATE
  • 00:12:58.190 --> 00:12:59.100
  • TO THAT.
  • 00:12:59.100 --> 00:12:59.200
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:00.060
  • - BIL: THAT'S HOW YOU REALLY
  • 00:13:00.060 --> 00:13:00.270
  • FEEL SOMETIMES: I'M MAD AT THIS
  • 00:13:00.270 --> 00:13:01.190
  • PERSON!
  • 00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:01.290
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:13:01.290 --> 00:13:02.130
  • - BIL: THEY HURT MY FEELINGS!
  • 00:13:02.130 --> 00:13:03.040
  • THEY BETRAYED ME!
  • 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:03.270
  • - SHEILA: YEAH, MY SON,
  • 00:13:03.270 --> 00:13:05.100
  • CHRISTIAN -- HE'S NOW 22.
  • 00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:07.150
  • HE'S A SENIOR AT TEXAS A&M.
  • 00:13:07.150 --> 00:13:09.050
  • BUT WHEN HE WAS 5 YEARS OLD, MY
  • 00:13:09.050 --> 00:13:10.240
  • FATHER-IN-LAW MOVED IN WITH
  • 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.050
  • US AFTER THE DEATH OF MY
  • 00:13:12.050 --> 00:13:12.230
  • MOTHER-IN-LAW.
  • 00:13:12.230 --> 00:13:14.080
  • AND CHRISTIAN ADORED HIS PAPA.
  • 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:16.270
  • AND HE AND I WERE THE ONLY TWO
  • 00:13:16.270 --> 00:13:17.260
  • HOME THE NIGHT THAT WILLIAM
  • 00:13:17.260 --> 00:13:18.160
  • DIED.
  • 00:13:18.160 --> 00:13:19.110
  • AND, WE FOLLOWED THE AMBULANCE
  • 00:13:19.110 --> 00:13:20.270
  • TO THE HOSPITAL.
  • 00:13:20.270 --> 00:13:21.170
  • AND, BY THE TIME WE GOT THERE,
  • 00:13:21.170 --> 00:13:23.200
  • MY FATHER-IN-LAW HAD-- WAS
  • 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:25.050
  • ALREADY HOME WITH JESUS.
  • 00:13:25.050 --> 00:13:25.280
  • AND MY SON, FOR THE FIRST TWO
  • 00:13:25.280 --> 00:13:27.140
  • OR THREE WEEKS DID WHAT I
  • 00:13:27.140 --> 00:13:29.210
  • EXPECTED: HE CRIED A LOT.
  • 00:13:29.210 --> 00:13:30.210
  • BUT THEN, ONE DAY, HE DID THIS
  • 00:13:30.210 --> 00:13:32.090
  • STRANGE THING.
  • 00:13:32.090 --> 00:13:32.280
  • WE HAD THIS HUMUNGOUS CAT WE'D
  • 00:13:32.280 --> 00:13:35.000
  • ADOPTED FROM THE SHELTER.
  • 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:36.150
  • AND HE LOVED THIS CAT, BUT HE
  • 00:13:36.150 --> 00:13:38.070
  • PUSHED LILY OFF THE SOFA.
  • 00:13:38.070 --> 00:13:39.240
  • SO, I SAID TO HIM, "BABE, WHY
  • 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.040
  • DON'T YOU AND I GO FOR A WALK?"
  • 00:13:41.040 --> 00:13:43.040
  • AND, AFTER A WHILE, I SAID TO
  • 00:13:43.040 --> 00:13:44.180
  • HIM, "CHRISTIAN, ARE YOU
  • 00:13:44.180 --> 00:13:45.100
  • ANGRY?"
  • 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:46.040
  • AND HE SAID: "YES, I'M ANGRY.
  • 00:13:46.040 --> 00:13:46.290
  • YOU TOLD ME THAT GOD ANSWERS
  • 00:13:46.290 --> 00:13:48.210
  • PRAYER.
  • 00:13:48.210 --> 00:13:49.190
  • AND WHEN WE FOLLOWED THE
  • 00:13:49.190 --> 00:13:51.040
  • AMBULANCE, I SAID, 'DEAR GOD,
  • 00:13:51.040 --> 00:13:52.140
  • PLEASE DON'T TAKE MY PAPA.'
  • 00:13:52.140 --> 00:13:54.220
  • AND HE DIED.
  • 00:13:54.220 --> 00:13:56.000
  • SO, I DON'T LIKE GOD ANYMORE
  • 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:56.210
  • AND I AM NOT PRAYING."
  • 00:13:56.210 --> 00:13:58.080
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:59.180
  • - SHEILA: AND I SAID TO
  • 00:13:59.180 --> 00:14:00.090
  • CHRISTIAN, "THAT IS TOTALLY
  • 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:01.000
  • UNDERSTANDABLE."
  • 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.100
  • - BIL: SURE.
  • 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:03.240
  • - SHEILA: "AND HERE'S A COUPLE
  • 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:04.160
  • OF THINGS: YOU GET TO BE ANGRY
  • 00:14:04.160 --> 00:14:05.070
  • BUT YOU CAN'T HURT YOURSELF OR
  • 00:14:05.070 --> 00:14:05.280
  • ANYONE ELSE."
  • 00:14:05.280 --> 00:14:07.110
  • SO, I DROVE HIM TO THE SPORTS
  • 00:14:07.110 --> 00:14:09.030
  • STORE AND I GOT HIM A PUNCHING
  • 00:14:09.030 --> 00:14:10.200
  • BAG AND BOXING GLOVES.
  • 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:11.250
  • AND I SAID, "BABY, WHEN YOU'RE
  • 00:14:11.250 --> 00:14:13.150
  • ANGRY, YOU HIT THAT THING TILL
  • 00:14:13.150 --> 00:14:15.120
  • YOU'RE WORN OUT, BUT THEN YOU
  • 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.200
  • FALL INTO THE ARMS OF A GOD WHO
  • 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:19.010
  • LOVES YOU ENOUGH TO ALLOW YOU
  • 00:14:19.010 --> 00:14:19.220
  • TO BE ANGRY."
  • 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:21.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:14:21.270 --> 00:14:22.120
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:23.000
  • THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:23.140
  • I JUST--
  • 00:14:23.140 --> 00:14:24.000
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:25.030
  • I WANNA STOP ON THAT FOR A
  • 00:14:25.030 --> 00:14:27.000
  • MOMENT.
  • 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.140
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SUICIDE HAS
  • 00:14:28.140 --> 00:14:29.250
  • GOTTEN JUST...I CAN'T BELIEVE
  • 00:14:29.250 --> 00:14:31.160
  • I'M GONNA USE THIS WORD, BUT
  • 00:14:31.160 --> 00:14:34.020
  • IT'S GOTTEN POPULAR, AS IF IT'S
  • 00:14:34.020 --> 00:14:34.240
  • A TREND.
  • 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:35.090
  • AND IT'S JUST-- IT'S SICK
  • 00:14:35.090 --> 00:14:36.290
  • WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR WORLD
  • 00:14:36.290 --> 00:14:37.200
  • TODAY.
  • 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.090
  • I'M SURE EVERYONE KNOWS SOMEONE
  • 00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:40.070
  • WHO HAS THOUGHT ABOUT, OR
  • 00:14:40.070 --> 00:14:41.160
  • ATTEMPTED, OR ACTUALLY TAKEN
  • 00:14:41.160 --> 00:14:43.040
  • THEIR LIFE!
  • 00:14:43.040 --> 00:14:44.210
  • AND I'M JUST -- AS A PASTOR --
  • 00:14:44.210 --> 00:14:45.180
  • I'M TIRED OF BURYING YOUNG
  • 00:14:45.180 --> 00:14:46.170
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE FAR TOO YOUNG
  • 00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:50.190
  • TO DIE.
  • 00:14:50.190 --> 00:14:52.210
  • BUT IT'S NOT JUST YOUNG PEOPLE.
  • 00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:53.130
  • IT'S OLDER PEOPLE, TOO.
  • 00:14:53.130 --> 00:14:54.010
  • SO, YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING.
  • 00:14:54.010 --> 00:14:54.220
  • THAT WAS SO POWERFUL HOW YOU
  • 00:14:54.220 --> 00:14:55.130
  • SAID IT, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:14:55.130 --> 00:14:56.270
  • THE RIGHT IN YOUR ANGER TO HURT
  • 00:14:56.270 --> 00:14:58.130
  • YOURSELF OR...OR SOMEONE ELSE.
  • 00:14:58.130 --> 00:15:00.180
  • AND SO, THE BIBLE SAYS IN YOUR
  • 00:15:00.180 --> 00:15:01.090
  • ANGER, DON'T SIN.
  • 00:15:01.090 --> 00:15:03.110
  • WHAT DO YOU DO, THEN?
  • 00:15:03.110 --> 00:15:04.240
  • WHAT'S THE PROPER RESPONSE WHEN
  • 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:05.270
  • - SHEILA: I THINK ONE OF THE
  • 00:15:08.030 --> 00:15:09.040
  • MAIN THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IS
  • 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:09.250
  • START SHINING THE BRIGHTEST
  • 00:15:09.250 --> 00:15:11.120
  • LIGHT INTO THE DARKEST CORNERS
  • 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:12.260
  • OF THE CHURCH.
  • 00:15:12.260 --> 00:15:14.140
  • BECAUSE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS
  • 00:15:14.140 --> 00:15:15.170
  • WE JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT.
  • 00:15:15.170 --> 00:15:17.130
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:15:17.130 --> 00:15:17.260
  • - SHEILA: AND, WHAT I WRITE
  • 00:15:17.260 --> 00:15:20.190
  • ABOUT IS THAT THE FIRST TIME
  • 00:15:20.190 --> 00:15:21.150
  • THAT I TRIED TO END MY LIFE,
  • 00:15:21.150 --> 00:15:23.000
  • I WAS 18 YEARS OLD.
  • 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:24.280
  • AND I WAS A STUDENT IN SEMINARY.
  • 00:15:24.280 --> 00:15:26.010
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:15:26.010 --> 00:15:26.170
  • - SHEILA: I TOOK A TRAIN INTO
  • 00:15:26.170 --> 00:15:27.090
  • LONDON ONE NIGHT, AND I WAS
  • 00:15:27.090 --> 00:15:28.090
  • WALKING AROUND IN THE RAIN,
  • 00:15:28.090 --> 00:15:30.150
  • THINKING, LORD, WHY DO I FEEL
  • 00:15:30.150 --> 00:15:31.260
  • SO DESPERATE, SO ALONE, SO
  • 00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:32.210
  • OVERWHELMED?
  • 00:15:32.210 --> 00:15:35.050
  • AND I ACTUALLY STEPPED UP ONTO
  • 00:15:35.050 --> 00:15:37.120
  • THE BRIDGE, LOOKING DOWN ONTO
  • 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.030
  • AND I FELT THIS VOICE SAYING,
  • 00:15:41.050 --> 00:15:41.260
  • "JUMP, SHEILA.
  • 00:15:41.260 --> 00:15:43.280
  • JUST JUMP.
  • 00:15:43.280 --> 00:15:44.120
  • IT WON'T HURT.
  • 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:45.210
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT."
  • 00:15:45.210 --> 00:15:47.040
  • AND WHAT SAVED ME THAT NIGHT,
  • 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:48.180
  • AND MANY NIGHTS INTO THE
  • 00:15:48.180 --> 00:15:50.230
  • FUTURE, WAS ONE NAME --
  • 00:15:50.230 --> 00:15:52.290
  • THE NAME OF JESUS.
  • 00:15:52.290 --> 00:15:53.140
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:15:53.140 --> 00:15:54.110
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:15:54.110 --> 00:15:54.240
  • - SHEILA: CALLING ON THE NAME
  • 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:55.160
  • OF JESUS.
  • 00:15:55.160 --> 00:15:56.180
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:15:56.180 --> 00:15:57.040
  • THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:15:57.040 --> 00:15:57.160
  • I LOVE IT.
  • 00:15:57.160 --> 00:15:57.280
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:15:57.280 --> 00:15:58.090
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN,
  • 00:15:58.090 --> 00:15:59.090
  • WE-- WE KNOW THAT SCRIPTURE,
  • 00:15:59.090 --> 00:16:00.060
  • "THOSE WHO CALL UPON THE NAME
  • 00:16:00.060 --> 00:16:01.050
  • OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
  • 00:16:01.050 --> 00:16:01.250
  • - BIL: SO GOOD.
  • 00:16:01.250 --> 00:16:03.100
  • - SHEILA: BUT IT'S NOT JUST
  • 00:16:03.100 --> 00:16:04.050
  • FOR THAT MOMENT OF SALVATION.
  • 00:16:04.050 --> 00:16:04.260
  • WHEN YOU'RE REACHING FOR THAT
  • 00:16:04.260 --> 00:16:05.240
  • BOTTLE AND YOU-- YOU WANNA PUT
  • 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.020
  • IT DOWN AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE
  • 00:16:07.020 --> 00:16:08.250
  • STRENGTH, CALL ON THE NAME OF
  • 00:16:08.250 --> 00:16:10.040
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:16:10.040 --> 00:16:10.160
  • - BIL: HE'S STILL SAVING--
  • 00:16:10.160 --> 00:16:11.240
  • - SHEILA: YES, HE'S STILL--
  • 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:12.150
  • - BIL: --EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY.
  • 00:16:12.150 --> 00:16:13.230
  • - SHEILA: SALVATION MEANS TO
  • 00:16:13.230 --> 00:16:14.180
  • SAVE AND TO HEAL.
  • 00:16:14.180 --> 00:16:17.090
  • IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.
  • 00:16:17.090 --> 00:16:18.090
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:16:18.090 --> 00:16:18.220
  • - SHEILA: BUT UNLESS WE START
  • 00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:19.140
  • TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS IN
  • 00:16:19.140 --> 00:16:20.050
  • THE CHURCH, AND MAKING--
  • 00:16:20.050 --> 00:16:21.070
  • LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ONE THING
  • 00:16:21.070 --> 00:16:23.150
  • THAT HAPPENED THAT TOTALLY BLEW
  • 00:16:23.150 --> 00:16:24.070
  • ME AWAY.
  • 00:16:24.070 --> 00:16:24.250
  • I WAS SPEAKING AT A CONFERENCE
  • 00:16:24.250 --> 00:16:25.160
  • IN THE MIDWEST -- 5.000
  • 00:16:25.160 --> 00:16:26.220
  • BEAUTIFUL WOMEN.
  • 00:16:26.220 --> 00:16:29.210
  • UM, YOU KNOW, AND TYPICAL
  • 00:16:29.210 --> 00:16:30.200
  • CHRISTIAN CONFERENCE: THREE
  • 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:31.100
  • DAYS; THEY HAVE THEIR
  • 00:16:31.100 --> 00:16:32.200
  • CONFERENCE OUTFIT 1, CONFERENCE
  • 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.110
  • OUTFIT 2, CONFERENCE OUTFIT 3.
  • 00:16:34.110 --> 00:16:35.090
  • AND THEY ALL LOOK PERFECT.
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.240
  • BUT ON THAT FINAL NIGHT, I
  • 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.270
  • SHARED ABOUT WHAT I HAVE
  • 00:16:38.270 --> 00:16:40.140
  • STRUGGLED WITH.
  • 00:16:40.140 --> 00:16:42.050
  • AND I SAID, "IF ANYONE IN HERE
  • 00:16:42.050 --> 00:16:43.040
  • IS A CUTTER, IF YOU'VE
  • 00:16:43.040 --> 00:16:45.210
  • STRUGGLED WITH SUICIDAL
  • 00:16:45.210 --> 00:16:46.220
  • THOUGHTS, I WANT YOU TO GET OUT
  • 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:48.100
  • OF YOUR SEAT AND JOIN ME."
  • 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:49.080
  • OVER 400 WOMEN AT THIS
  • 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.200
  • CHRISTIAN CONFERENCE, FROM 15
  • 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.210
  • TO 82.
  • 00:16:54.210 --> 00:16:56.090
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:16:56.090 --> 00:16:56.270
  • WOW.
  • 00:16:56.270 --> 00:16:57.170
  • - SHEILA: AND, FOR ME,
  • 00:16:57.170 --> 00:16:58.050
  • SOMETHING ROSE UP IN ME THAT
  • 00:16:58.050 --> 00:16:59.140
  • NIGHT.
  • 00:16:59.140 --> 00:17:00.040
  • I'M ONLY 5-- ACTUALLY, I USED
  • 00:17:00.040 --> 00:17:01.260
  • TO BE 5'3".
  • 00:17:01.260 --> 00:17:02.280
  • I'M ONLY 5'2".
  • 00:17:02.280 --> 00:17:03.140
  • I'M GOING, "NO, NO, I THINK I
  • 00:17:03.140 --> 00:17:04.110
  • WAS 5'4" BEFORE."
  • 00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:05.160
  • I'LL BE A GARDEN GNOME BY
  • 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:07.000
  • CHRISTMAS IS THE BASIC BOTTOM
  • 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:07.240
  • LINE.
  • 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:08.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:08.110 --> 00:17:09.090
  • - BIL: YOU'RE SO FUNNY.
  • 00:17:09.090 --> 00:17:09.270
  • - SHEILA: BUT SOMETHING ROSE
  • 00:17:09.270 --> 00:17:11.140
  • UP IN ME TO SAY: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:17:11.140 --> 00:17:12.060
  • NO.
  • 00:17:12.060 --> 00:17:12.140
  • IN JESUS' NAME, WE NEED TO
  • 00:17:12.140 --> 00:17:14.080
  • STAND BESIDE EACH OTHER, COVER
  • 00:17:14.080 --> 00:17:15.050
  • EACH OTHER, PRAY FOR EACH
  • 00:17:15.050 --> 00:17:17.000
  • OTHER.
  • 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:17.170
  • FIND A COUPLE OF SAFE PEOPLE IN
  • 00:17:17.170 --> 00:17:19.040
  • YOUR LIFE AND TELL THEM THE
  • 00:17:19.040 --> 00:17:20.200
  • TRUTH.
  • 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:21.130
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:21.130 --> 00:17:21.250
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:17:21.250 --> 00:17:22.140
  • OKAY...
  • 00:17:22.140 --> 00:17:22.270
  • I--
  • 00:17:22.270 --> 00:17:24.050
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:24.050 --> 00:17:25.020
  • I DON'T THINK WE CAN MISS THIS
  • 00:17:25.020 --> 00:17:26.140
  • MOMENT.
  • 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:27.020
  • THIS IS TOO GOOD OF A MOMENT.
  • 00:17:27.020 --> 00:17:28.080
  • I KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE
  • 00:17:28.080 --> 00:17:29.160
  • PEOPLE WATCHING THAT ARE
  • 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.120
  • SAYING: ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
  • 00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:32.110
  • I'M FLIPPING THROUGH THE
  • 00:17:32.110 --> 00:17:33.130
  • CHANNELS AND I'M THINKING ABOUT
  • 00:17:33.130 --> 00:17:34.270
  • ENDING MY OWN LIFE, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:17:34.270 --> 00:17:35.190
  • I'M THINKING ABOUT IT THIS
  • 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:36.210
  • WEEK.
  • 00:17:36.210 --> 00:17:37.160
  • I HAVE A PLAN IN MY MIND.
  • 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.110
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT
  • 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:40.090
  • DESPERATE.
  • 00:17:40.090 --> 00:17:40.260
  • MAYBE THAT'S YOU.
  • 00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:44.150
  • I WANNA ASK YOU, SHEILA, WOULD
  • 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:45.060
  • YOU JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND PRAY
  • 00:17:45.060 --> 00:17:45.280
  • FOR THAT PERSON--
  • 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:46.130
  • - SHEILA: I'D LOVE TO.
  • 00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:47.010
  • - BIL: --AND HELP THEM FIND
  • 00:17:47.010 --> 00:17:47.220
  • HOPE THAT--
  • 00:17:47.220 --> 00:17:48.040
  • HOPE HAS A NAME AND HIS NAME IS
  • 00:17:48.040 --> 00:17:48.260
  • JESUS.
  • 00:17:48.260 --> 00:17:49.050
  • - SHEILA: YEAH...
  • 00:17:49.050 --> 00:17:49.210
  • - BIL: WOULD YOU JUST LEAD
  • 00:17:49.210 --> 00:17:50.140
  • THEM, RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:17:50.140 --> 00:17:51.080
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IF YOU
  • 00:17:51.080 --> 00:17:52.150
  • FEEL...DESPERATE IN THIS
  • 00:17:52.150 --> 00:17:55.060
  • MOMENT, I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS
  • 00:17:55.060 --> 00:17:55.270
  • LIKE.
  • 00:17:55.270 --> 00:17:56.130
  • AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE
  • 00:17:56.130 --> 00:17:58.060
  • BEEN LEFT ALONE.
  • 00:17:58.060 --> 00:17:59.290
  • MAYBE PROMISES HAVE BEEN MADE
  • 00:17:59.290 --> 00:18:00.220
  • TO YOU AND THEY'VE BEEN BROKEN.
  • 00:18:00.220 --> 00:18:01.180
  • I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT A GOD
  • 00:18:01.180 --> 00:18:03.000
  • WHO KEPT HIS TOUGHEST PROMISE,
  • 00:18:03.080 --> 00:18:06.080
  • WHICH WAS THAT HE WOULD SEND
  • 00:18:06.080 --> 00:18:08.150
  • HIS SON TO DIE FOR US SO THAT
  • 00:18:08.150 --> 00:18:10.110
  • WE COULD BE FREE.
  • 00:18:10.110 --> 00:18:12.240
  • IF GOD KEPT THAT TOUGHEST
  • 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.250
  • PROMISE, TRUST ME, HE WILL KEEP
  • 00:18:14.250 --> 00:18:16.190
  • ALL HIS PROMISES TO YOU.
  • 00:18:16.190 --> 00:18:18.070
  • PSALM 34 SAYS THIS.
  • 00:18:18.070 --> 00:18:20.260
  • THE LORD IS CLOSE TO THE
  • 00:18:20.260 --> 00:18:23.100
  • BROKENHEARTED AND SAVES THOSE
  • 00:18:23.110 --> 00:18:26.110
  • WHO ARE CRUSHED IN SPIRIT.
  • 00:18:26.110 --> 00:18:28.200
  • IF YOU'RE CRUSHED, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:29.170
  • WOULD YOU LET ME PRAY FOR YOU?
  • 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:31.060
  • FATHER GOD, THANK YOU THAT
  • 00:18:31.060 --> 00:18:34.000
  • ALTHOUGH YOU ARE A MAGNIFICENT,
  • 00:18:34.070 --> 00:18:37.070
  • GLORIOUS FATHER, YOU'RE ALSO
  • 00:18:37.070 --> 00:18:40.020
  • INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN OUR
  • 00:18:40.020 --> 00:18:42.110
  • LIVES.
  • 00:18:42.110 --> 00:18:43.020
  • LORD, I ASK, RIGHT NOW, FOR ANY
  • 00:18:43.020 --> 00:18:45.280
  • MAN, FOR ANY WOMAN, FOR ANY
  • 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:47.230
  • CHILD WHO FINDS THEMSELF IN A
  • 00:18:47.230 --> 00:18:50.010
  • DESPERATE PLACE, LORD, I ASK,
  • 00:18:50.010 --> 00:18:51.260
  • IN THE POWERFUL NAME OF JESUS,
  • 00:18:52.110 --> 00:18:55.110
  • THAT WHEREVER THEY ARE YOU
  • 00:18:55.110 --> 00:18:57.150
  • WOULD FLOOD THEIR ROOM WITH
  • 00:18:57.150 --> 00:18:58.240
  • HOPE, THAT YOUR GRACE WOULD
  • 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.020
  • FALL UPON THEM,
  • 00:19:02.020 --> 00:19:02.180
  • THAT YOUR GLORY WOULD
  • 00:19:02.180 --> 00:19:03.190
  • SHINE UPON THEM, AND THAT
  • 00:19:03.190 --> 00:19:04.270
  • THEY WOULD KNOW THAT YOU DIED
  • 00:19:04.270 --> 00:19:06.130
  • FOR THEM, JESUS, SO THAT THEY
  • 00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:08.090
  • HAVE A REASON TO GET UP AND
  • 00:19:08.090 --> 00:19:10.140
  • SAY, "TODAY, I'M GOING TO LIVE
  • 00:19:10.140 --> 00:19:12.030
  • BECAUSE I HAVE A GOD WHO WAS
  • 00:19:12.030 --> 00:19:14.220
  • WILLING TO DIE FOR ME."
  • 00:19:14.220 --> 00:19:17.110
  • THANK YOU, JESUS, THAT THERE
  • 00:19:17.110 --> 00:19:20.000
  • ARE NO LIMITS TO YOUR LOVE.
  • 00:19:20.050 --> 00:19:23.050
  • WE BLESS YOUR HOLY NAME.
  • 00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:24.150
  • AMEN.
  • 00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:26.140
  • - BIL: AMEN.
  • 00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:26.290
  • WOW!
  • 00:19:26.290 --> 00:19:27.240
  • ISN'T GOD GOOD?
  • 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:28.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:28.170 --> 00:19:28.290
  • AMAZING.
  • 00:19:28.290 --> 00:19:30.180
  • AMAZING.
  • 00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:31.290
  • ALL RIGHT...I JUST WANNA SAY
  • 00:19:31.290 --> 00:19:33.060
  • RIGHT NOW, GOD HAS JUST TOUCHED
  • 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.080
  • YOUR LIFE, HE'S SPOKEN TO YOU.
  • 00:19:38.080 --> 00:19:39.060
  • BUT YOU MAY SAY: "MAN, I JUST
  • 00:19:39.060 --> 00:19:39.270
  • FEEL SO GREAT.
  • 00:19:39.270 --> 00:19:40.240
  • I KNOW GOD IS THERE AND HE'S MY
  • 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:41.220
  • HOPE."
  • 00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:42.110
  • YES, HE IS.
  • 00:19:42.110 --> 00:19:43.180
  • BUT THERE'S GOING TO STILL COME
  • 00:19:43.180 --> 00:19:44.130
  • DARK MOMENTS.
  • 00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:45.190
  • AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU
  • 00:19:45.190 --> 00:19:47.200
  • TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND DO
  • 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:48.290
  • SOMETHING YOU'VE PROBABLY NEVER
  • 00:19:48.290 --> 00:19:50.120
  • DONE BEFORE.
  • 00:19:50.120 --> 00:19:51.220
  • BUT I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO
  • 00:19:51.220 --> 00:19:53.010
  • GET THIS BOOK.
  • 00:19:53.010 --> 00:19:54.170
  • YOU KNOW WHY?
  • 00:19:54.170 --> 00:19:55.100
  • 'CAUSE THIS IS FROM SOMEONE
  • 00:19:55.100 --> 00:19:56.160
  • WHO'S BEEN WHERE YOU ARE, WHO'S
  • 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.120
  • LAID OUT THE STEPS OF HOW SHE
  • 00:19:58.120 --> 00:19:59.280
  • GOT OUT OF THAT DEPRESSION, HOW
  • 00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:01.270
  • SHE GOT THROUGH THAT ANXIETY
  • 00:20:01.270 --> 00:20:04.040
  • AND THAT FEAR, AND HOW SHE
  • 00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:04.270
  • LIFTED THAT SHAME OFF OF HER,
  • 00:20:04.270 --> 00:20:07.020
  • THROUGH CHRIST.
  • 00:20:07.020 --> 00:20:08.030
  • YOU NEED HELP DOING THAT.
  • 00:20:08.030 --> 00:20:08.220
  • WE ALL DO.
  • 00:20:08.220 --> 00:20:09.190
  • AND SO, NOW, THERE'S A RESOURCE
  • 00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:11.180
  • JUST FOR YOU.
  • 00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:12.130
  • I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, IN FACT.
  • 00:20:12.130 --> 00:20:13.120
  • RIGHT NOW, TBN, BECAUSE WE LOVE
  • 00:20:13.120 --> 00:20:14.090
  • YOU, BECAUSE WE CARE FOR YOU,
  • 00:20:14.090 --> 00:20:15.210
  • BECAUSE WE WANNA HELP YOU,
  • 00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:16.100
  • RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE MAKING AN
  • 00:20:16.100 --> 00:20:17.270
  • OFFER FOR YOU.
  • 00:20:17.270 --> 00:20:19.110
  • THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:20:19.110 --> 00:20:20.070
  • FOR A GIFT OF $60 OR MORE, YOU
  • 00:20:20.070 --> 00:20:22.140
  • GET TWO BOOKS FOR THE PRICE OF
  • 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:24.200
  • $60.
  • 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.200
  • YOU GET "OVERCOMER," BY
  • 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:28.020
  • DR. DAVID JEREMIAH.
  • 00:20:28.020 --> 00:20:29.230
  • YOU ALSO GET SHEILA'S NEW BOOK,
  • 00:20:29.230 --> 00:20:31.080
  • THE STEPS TO BE ABLE TO SET
  • 00:20:31.080 --> 00:20:32.210
  • YOURSELF FREE, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:20:32.210 --> 00:20:33.280
  • "IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE OKAY."
  • 00:20:33.280 --> 00:20:36.080
  • YOU SAY, "WELL, WHERE DOES THE
  • 00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:36.290
  • REST OF THE RESOURCES GO?"
  • 00:20:36.290 --> 00:20:38.030
  • HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE
  • 00:20:38.030 --> 00:20:39.010
  • WATCHIN' THIS, RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:20:39.010 --> 00:20:40.050
  • YOU'RE ACTUALLY BEING A MEDIA
  • 00:20:40.050 --> 00:20:42.010
  • EVANGELIST WHEN YOU SUPPORT
  • 00:20:42.010 --> 00:20:43.050
  • THIS MINISTRY, ANYWAY.
  • 00:20:43.050 --> 00:20:44.210
  • SO, THE ONLY THING YOU'RE DOING
  • 00:20:44.210 --> 00:20:45.260
  • IS YOU'RE GETTING RESOURCES TO
  • 00:20:45.260 --> 00:20:47.010
  • HELP YOURSELF OR SOMEONE YOU
  • 00:20:47.010 --> 00:20:49.060
  • LOVE AND YOU'RE ALSO HELPING
  • 00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:51.150
  • TAKE THIS HOPE FURTHER THAN
  • 00:20:51.150 --> 00:20:52.270
  • EVEN YOUR LIVING ROOM.
  • 00:20:52.270 --> 00:20:53.220
  • ISN'T THAT GREAT TO BE ABLE TO
  • 00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:54.170
  • DO THAT?
  • 00:20:54.170 --> 00:20:54.290
  • PLEASE CALL TODAY.
  • 00:20:54.290 --> 00:20:55.150
  • PICK UP THIS BOOK.
  • 00:20:55.150 --> 00:20:56.120
  • GET THIS RESOURCE.
  • 00:20:56.120 --> 00:20:57.120
  • SHEILA, I'M SO GLAD YOU WROTE
  • 00:20:57.120 --> 00:20:58.200
  • THIS.
  • 00:20:58.200 --> 00:20:59.060
  • AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS -- AND,
  • 00:20:59.060 --> 00:21:00.220
  • YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD
  • 00:21:00.220 --> 00:21:02.240
  • TO FIND PURPOSE IN THAT MOMENT
  • 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:03.150
  • OF PAIN.
  • 00:21:03.150 --> 00:21:03.270
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:21:03.270 --> 00:21:04.240
  • - BIL: BUT YOU'RE LIVING IN
  • 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:05.140
  • IT, NOW.
  • 00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:05.250
  • AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WE WILL
  • 00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:06.260
  • COMFORT OTHERS WITH THE SAME
  • 00:21:06.260 --> 00:21:08.290
  • COMFORT THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE
  • 00:21:08.290 --> 00:21:10.120
  • RECEIVED.
  • 00:21:10.120 --> 00:21:11.130
  • HERE YOU ARE SPEAKING ON THE
  • 00:21:11.130 --> 00:21:13.090
  • YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU
  • 00:21:16.040 --> 00:21:16.260
  • MENTIONED I JUST WANTED TO ASK
  • 00:21:16.260 --> 00:21:17.180
  • YOU ABOUT.
  • 00:21:17.180 --> 00:21:18.030
  • IT'S KIND OF PERSONAL, BUT YOU
  • 00:21:18.030 --> 00:21:19.160
  • TOLD ME WE COULD GO THERE.
  • 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:20.050
  • - SHEILA: GO FOR IT.
  • 00:21:20.050 --> 00:21:20.220
  • - BIL: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:22.010
  • YOU TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU
  • 00:21:22.010 --> 00:21:23.250
  • LOVE THE LORD, GOD'S REALLY
  • 00:21:23.250 --> 00:21:24.150
  • HELPED YOU, BUT YOU DID SEEK
  • 00:21:24.150 --> 00:21:25.060
  • MEDICAL HELP, TOO...
  • 00:21:25.060 --> 00:21:25.260
  • - SHEILA: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:21:25.260 --> 00:21:27.010
  • - BIL: ...THAT YOU RECOGNIZED
  • 00:21:27.010 --> 00:21:27.240
  • YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME THINGS
  • 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:28.150
  • BALANCED IN YOUR OWN MIND, IN
  • 00:21:28.150 --> 00:21:29.270
  • YOUR OWN BODY, AS WELL.
  • 00:21:29.270 --> 00:21:31.180
  • AND I THINK A LOT OF CHRISTIANS
  • 00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:32.100
  • FEEL LIKE: OH, NO, I'M A PERSON
  • 00:21:32.100 --> 00:21:33.020
  • OF FAITH.
  • 00:21:33.020 --> 00:21:35.260
  • I CAN'T DO THAT.
  • 00:21:35.260 --> 00:21:36.280
  • I'M A CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:21:36.280 --> 00:21:37.130
  • I SHOULDN'T-- I SHOULDN'T HAVE
  • 00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:38.220
  • TO RELY UPON A DOCTOR OR
  • 00:21:38.220 --> 00:21:39.100
  • MEDICINE.
  • 00:21:39.100 --> 00:21:40.130
  • WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
  • 00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:42.120
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:43.010
  • INTERESTING, BECAUSE, MY FIRST
  • 00:21:43.010 --> 00:21:44.100
  • WEEK IN THE HOSPITAL, THE
  • 00:21:44.100 --> 00:21:45.140
  • PSYCHIATRIST SAID, "I WANT TO
  • 00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:46.200
  • PUT YOU ON MEDICATION."
  • 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.190
  • I WAS LIKE, "NOPE...I DON'T
  • 00:21:48.190 --> 00:21:49.090
  • WANT ANY OF YOUR HAPPY PILLS."
  • 00:21:49.090 --> 00:21:50.130
  • THEY SAID: "NO, THOSE ARE
  • 00:21:50.130 --> 00:21:51.040
  • STREET DRUGS.
  • 00:21:51.040 --> 00:21:52.110
  • WE DON'T SELL THOSE HERE."
  • 00:21:52.110 --> 00:21:53.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:53.290
  • HE EXPLAINED THAT SOME
  • 00:21:53.290 --> 00:21:55.020
  • PEOPLE -- THEIR BRAIN SIMPLY
  • 00:21:55.020 --> 00:21:57.130
  • DOESN'T PRODUCE ENOUGH
  • 00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:58.000
  • SEROTONIN TO BE ABLE TO
  • 00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:58.180
  • FUNCTION WELL.
  • 00:21:58.180 --> 00:21:59.130
  • AND I HAVE TO SAY, TO THIS DAY,
  • 00:21:59.130 --> 00:22:02.130
  • I TAKE THAT LITTLE PILL EVERY
  • 00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:03.230
  • MORNING--
  • 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:04.080
  • - BIL: GREAT.
  • 00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:04.270
  • - SHEILA: --WITH A PRAYER OF
  • 00:22:04.270 --> 00:22:05.180
  • THANKSGIVING THAT GOD HAS MADE
  • 00:22:05.180 --> 00:22:06.090
  • IT POSSIBLE.
  • 00:22:06.090 --> 00:22:07.080
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:22:07.080 --> 00:22:07.210
  • - SHEILA: WE ALL HAVE
  • 00:22:07.210 --> 00:22:08.080
  • BROKENNESS IN SOME AREA.
  • 00:22:08.080 --> 00:22:09.220
  • FOR SOME OF US, IT'S OUR HEART,
  • 00:22:09.220 --> 00:22:10.290
  • OR IT MIGHT BE OUR STOMACH WE
  • 00:22:10.290 --> 00:22:13.020
  • HAVE ISSUES WITH.
  • 00:22:13.020 --> 00:22:13.290
  • FOR ME, IT'S SIMPLY MY BRAIN
  • 00:22:13.290 --> 00:22:14.270
  • DOESN'T PRODUCE ENOUGH
  • 00:22:14.270 --> 00:22:15.240
  • CHEMICALS.
  • 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:16.290
  • BUT WITH THAT LITTLE PILL, I'M
  • 00:22:16.290 --> 00:22:18.020
  • ABLE TO SERVE GOD AND SERVE
  • 00:22:18.020 --> 00:22:19.150
  • THOSE AROUND ME--
  • 00:22:19.150 --> 00:22:21.150
  • - BIL: THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:22:21.150 --> 00:22:22.020
  • - SHEILA: --AND BE A GOOD MOM
  • 00:22:22.020 --> 00:22:22.240
  • AND A GOOD WIFE.
  • 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:23.080
  • - BIL: PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:22:23.080 --> 00:22:23.240
  • YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT, BECAUSE,
  • 00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.050
  • WE FORGET THAT IN THE BIBLE,
  • 00:22:25.050 --> 00:22:27.130
  • LIKE, ELIJAH, WHEN HE WAS
  • 00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:28.020
  • LITERALLY SUICIDAL -- HERE'S
  • 00:22:28.020 --> 00:22:28.260
  • THIS GREAT PROPHET OF GOD, AND
  • 00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:30.040
  • SAYS: "JUST TAKE MY LIFE, LORD.
  • 00:22:30.040 --> 00:22:31.070
  • I'M NO BETTER THAN MY
  • 00:22:31.070 --> 00:22:32.110
  • ANCESTORS."
  • 00:22:32.110 --> 00:22:33.130
  • AND I LOVE HOW HE COMPARED
  • 00:22:33.130 --> 00:22:34.020
  • HIMSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:22:34.020 --> 00:22:34.200
  • I KNOW NO ONE'S DOING THAT
  • 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:36.000
  • TODAY WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:36.200
  • NO ONE'S COMPARING THEMSELVES
  • 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:38.060
  • TO OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:22:38.060 --> 00:22:38.210
  • UNREALISTICALLY, BUT LET'S JUST
  • 00:22:38.210 --> 00:22:39.290
  • SAY THAT'S HAPPENING.
  • 00:22:39.290 --> 00:22:40.280
  • [SHEILA LAUGHS]
  • 00:22:40.280 --> 00:22:41.160
  • AND SO, WE LOOK AT OTHER
  • 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:42.070
  • PEOPLE'S LIVES, "THEY LOOK SO
  • 00:22:42.070 --> 00:22:42.280
  • GREAT AND THEY'RE HAPPY, AND
  • 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:43.240
  • WHY AM I NOT AS HAPPY, AND AS
  • 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:45.220
  • COOL, AND WHY AM I MISSING
  • 00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:46.110
  • OUT?" -- WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING
  • 00:22:46.110 --> 00:22:47.220
  • AT THAT MOMENT, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:49.130
  • AND SO, WE JUST GET DOWN AND
  • 00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:50.030
  • DISCOURAGED.
  • 00:22:50.030 --> 00:22:51.190
  • SO, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT-- HE
  • 00:22:51.190 --> 00:22:52.250
  • SAID, "ELIJAH, GO TAKE A NAP."
  • 00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:54.050
  • - SHEILA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:22:54.050 --> 00:22:54.200
  • - BIL: THEN, HE WAKES HIM UP
  • 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:55.250
  • AND HE SAYS, "NOW, EAT."
  • 00:22:55.250 --> 00:22:56.130
  • SO, REST, REGIMENTING YOUR
  • 00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:58.220
  • SCHEDULE, WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR
  • 00:22:58.220 --> 00:23:00.180
  • BODY -- THAT'S SUCH A BIG DEAL.
  • 00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:01.190
  • - SHEILA: AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:23:01.190 --> 00:23:02.240
  • INTERESTING -- THE TIMING OF
  • 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:03.240
  • THAT, TOO.
  • 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:04.070
  • IF YOU THINK THAT GOD JUST
  • 00:23:04.070 --> 00:23:06.020
  • SHOWED UP IN THE MOST
  • 00:23:06.020 --> 00:23:06.260
  • MIRACULOUS WAY ON MOUNT
  • 00:23:06.260 --> 00:23:08.190
  • CARMEL...
  • 00:23:08.190 --> 00:23:09.250
  • I MEAN, THE 400 PROPHETS OF
  • 00:23:09.250 --> 00:23:12.000
  • BA'AL -- NOTHING HAPPENED.
  • 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:13.180
  • AND YOU HAVE ONE MAN AGAINST
  • 00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:15.200
  • THOSE 400 PROPHETS AND ALL THE
  • 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:17.100
  • PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, AND GOD
  • 00:23:17.100 --> 00:23:17.290
  • SHOWED UP.
  • 00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:19.190
  • - BIL: MMH...
  • 00:23:19.190 --> 00:23:20.140
  • - SHEILA: BUT THEN, ELIJAH
  • 00:23:20.140 --> 00:23:21.150
  • THOUGHT, WELL, HE NOW
  • 00:23:21.150 --> 00:23:22.020
  • UNDERSTOOD GOD...WHICH IS WHY
  • 00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:23.070
  • HE RAN TO JEZREEL, TO WHERE
  • 00:23:23.070 --> 00:23:25.080
  • AHAB AND JEZEBEL HAD THEIR
  • 00:23:25.080 --> 00:23:26.220
  • PALACE, AND IMAGINING THAT NOW
  • 00:23:26.220 --> 00:23:29.020
  • THEY'LL REPENT OR THE PEOPLE
  • 00:23:29.020 --> 00:23:31.090
  • WILL THROW THEM OUT.
  • 00:23:31.090 --> 00:23:31.250
  • AND THEY DID NEITHER.
  • 00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:32.120
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:23:32.120 --> 00:23:33.150
  • - SHEILA: SEE, HE DOESN'T
  • 00:23:33.150 --> 00:23:34.040
  • UNDERSTAND GOD ANYMORE.
  • 00:23:34.040 --> 00:23:35.040
  • - BIL: RIGHT.
  • 00:23:35.040 --> 00:23:35.230
  • - SHEILA: AND HE RUNS INTO THE
  • 00:23:35.230 --> 00:23:36.240
  • WILDERNESS AND SAYS, "TAKE MY
  • 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:37.150
  • LIFE."
  • 00:23:37.150 --> 00:23:38.170
  • AND IN THAT MOMENT, YOU WOULD
  • 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:39.240
  • THINK GOD WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT
  • 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:40.260
  • TO SAY, "WHAT IS WRONG WITH
  • 00:23:40.260 --> 00:23:41.200
  • YOU?"
  • 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.110
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:23:43.110 --> 00:23:43.290
  • - SHEILA: BUT, INSTEAD,
  • 00:23:43.290 --> 00:23:44.240
  • THERE'S THIS ANGEL OF THE LORD
  • 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:45.190
  • WHO TOUCHES HIM GENTLY, WAKES
  • 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:48.000
  • HIM UP, HOME-COOKED MEAL, AND
  • 00:23:49.050 --> 00:23:52.050
  • THEN SAYS, "REST AGAIN OR THIS
  • 00:23:52.050 --> 00:23:52.270
  • JOURNEY WILL BE TOO MUCH FOR
  • 00:23:52.270 --> 00:23:54.020
  • YOU."
  • 00:23:54.020 --> 00:23:55.190
  • WE HAVE A GOD FULL OF GRACE AND
  • 00:23:55.190 --> 00:23:57.010
  • MERCY.
  • 00:23:57.010 --> 00:23:58.010
  • - BIL: SO GOOD.
  • 00:23:58.010 --> 00:23:58.160
  • SO GOOD.
  • 00:23:58.160 --> 00:23:59.000
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:23:59.000 --> 00:23:59.260
  • YOU SAID SOMETHING, TOO, THAT'S
  • 00:23:59.260 --> 00:24:01.000
  • REALLY GREAT, AND, I'VE BEEN
  • 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.010
  • WARNED OF THIS FOR MANY YEARS
  • 00:24:02.010 --> 00:24:03.090
  • FROM OTHER PREACHERS THAT HAD A
  • 00:24:03.090 --> 00:24:04.180
  • LOT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I DO.
  • 00:24:04.180 --> 00:24:06.070
  • THEY ALWAYS SAID, "WHEN YOU
  • 00:24:06.070 --> 00:24:07.030
  • COME OFF A SPIRITUAL HIGH IS
  • 00:24:07.030 --> 00:24:09.020
  • WHEN YOU GET ATTACKED,
  • 00:24:09.020 --> 00:24:11.270
  • DEPRESSED, WHEN YOU STRUGGLE
  • 00:24:11.270 --> 00:24:13.160
  • WITH THE ANXIETY."
  • 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:14.020
  • SO, YOU THINK, BUT I JUST HAD
  • 00:24:14.020 --> 00:24:15.270
  • THIS GREAT MOMENT.
  • 00:24:15.270 --> 00:24:16.120
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:24:16.120 --> 00:24:17.110
  • - BIL: AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:24:17.110 --> 00:24:19.040
  • IT'S LIKE THE HOPE THAT WE HAD
  • 00:24:19.040 --> 00:24:19.250
  • ISN'T FULFILLED -- 'CAUSE IT'S
  • 00:24:19.250 --> 00:24:20.190
  • NOT GONNA BE FULFILLED ON THIS
  • 00:24:20.190 --> 00:24:21.100
  • EARTH OR ANYTHING OF THIS
  • 00:24:21.100 --> 00:24:21.290
  • EARTH.
  • 00:24:21.290 --> 00:24:22.200
  • SPEAK TO THAT.
  • 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:23.170
  • 'CAUSE HERE YOU ARE TRAVELING,
  • 00:24:23.170 --> 00:24:24.080
  • TOURING, SPEAKING, PREACHING,
  • 00:24:24.080 --> 00:24:25.070
  • SINGING, AND YET, HERE YOU ARE
  • 00:24:25.070 --> 00:24:27.020
  • WITH ALL THAT GOING ON.
  • 00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:30.150
  • YOU HAVE HIGH MOMENTS AND THEN
  • 00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:31.060
  • YOU CRASH.
  • 00:24:31.060 --> 00:24:32.170
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:24:32.170 --> 00:24:33.010
  • - BIL: WHAT DOES THAT LOOK
  • 00:24:33.010 --> 00:24:33.210
  • LIKE FOR YOU?
  • 00:24:33.210 --> 00:24:34.040
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW WHAT'S
  • 00:24:34.040 --> 00:24:34.230
  • INTERESTING TO ME IS WHEN I WAS
  • 00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:35.150
  • A YOUNG CHRISTIAN, I USED TO
  • 00:24:35.150 --> 00:24:36.130
  • THINK, GOSH, WOULDN'T IT BE SO
  • 00:24:36.130 --> 00:24:37.190
  • AMAZING IF YOU ACTUALLY SAW THE
  • 00:24:37.190 --> 00:24:38.110
  • MIRACLES OF JESUS.
  • 00:24:38.110 --> 00:24:40.230
  • YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE
  • 00:24:40.230 --> 00:24:41.250
  • THOUGHT THAT?
  • 00:24:41.250 --> 00:24:42.200
  • IF YOU WERE THERE WHEN SOME OF
  • 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.120
  • THESE MIRACULOUS THINGS
  • 00:24:44.120 --> 00:24:45.150
  • HAPPENED, HOW MUCH EASIER IT
  • 00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:46.190
  • WOULD BE TO BELIEVE.
  • 00:24:46.190 --> 00:24:47.190
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:24:47.190 --> 00:24:48.020
  • - SHEILA: BUT I DISCOVERED
  • 00:24:48.020 --> 00:24:49.030
  • MIRACLES DON'T CHANGE US.
  • 00:24:49.030 --> 00:24:50.020
  • OBEDIENCE TO CHRIST CHANGES US.
  • 00:24:50.020 --> 00:24:52.060
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD...
  • 00:24:52.060 --> 00:24:53.100
  • - SHEILA: BECAUSE IF YOU THINK
  • 00:24:53.100 --> 00:24:54.020
  • WHEN CHRIST CALLED LAZARUS
  • 00:24:54.020 --> 00:24:55.020
  • FORTH FROM THE TOMB -- I MEAN,
  • 00:24:55.020 --> 00:24:57.130
  • THIS MAN HAD BEEN IN THE TOMB
  • 00:24:57.130 --> 00:24:58.040
  • FOUR DAYS.
  • 00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.010
  • THAT WAS UNHEARD OF.
  • 00:24:59.010 --> 00:25:00.090
  • ALL THE JEWS BELIEVED AT THAT
  • 00:25:00.090 --> 00:25:01.140
  • POINT THAT FOR THREE DAYS GOD
  • 00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:03.180
  • GAVE YOU A CHOICE: DO YOU WANT
  • 00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:04.280
  • TO COME BACK OR NOT?
  • 00:25:04.280 --> 00:25:06.090
  • BUT BY THE FOURTH DAY, THE DOOR
  • 00:25:06.090 --> 00:25:07.250
  • SO, WHEN LAZARUS CAME OUT AFTER
  • 00:25:09.270 --> 00:25:10.200
  • FOUR DAYS, PEOPLE ARE STUNNED.
  • 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.030
  • BUT THEN YOU READ 50 PERCENT OF
  • 00:25:12.030 --> 00:25:14.160
  • THEM FELL ON THEIR KNEES AND
  • 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:15.130
  • WORSHIPPED.
  • 00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:16.110
  • FIFTY PERCENT OF THEM WALKED
  • 00:25:16.110 --> 00:25:17.050
  • AWAY--
  • 00:25:17.050 --> 00:25:18.080
  • - BIL: ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
  • 00:25:18.080 --> 00:25:18.280
  • - SHEILA: --AND SAID TO
  • 00:25:18.280 --> 00:25:19.230
  • RELIGIOUS LEADERS, "YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:20.200
  • TO GET RID OF THIS GUY."
  • 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:21.180
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:22.000
  • - SHEILA: SO, IN MY OWN LIFE,
  • 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:22.220
  • I'VE DISCOVERED THE MIRACULOUS,
  • 00:25:22.220 --> 00:25:24.160
  • THE HIGH MOMENTS DON'T CHANGE
  • 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:25.240
  • ME.
  • 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.110
  • IT'S-- IT'S A DAILY OBEDIENCE
  • 00:25:27.110 --> 00:25:28.290
  • TO CHRIST THAT CHANGES ME.
  • 00:25:28.290 --> 00:25:30.130
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:25:30.130 --> 00:25:32.110
  • - SHEILA: SO, ON THOSE-- LIKE,
  • 00:25:32.110 --> 00:25:33.190
  • WHEN I COME FROM A HIGH --
  • 00:25:33.190 --> 00:25:34.250
  • LIKE, I WAS OVER IN AUSTRALIA
  • 00:25:34.250 --> 00:25:35.250
  • AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF
  • 00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:36.290
  • SPEAKING TO ALL THE HILLSONG
  • 00:25:36.290 --> 00:25:38.140
  • SERVICES IN SYDNEY, AND--
  • 00:25:38.140 --> 00:25:39.150
  • - BIL: INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:25:39.150 --> 00:25:40.020
  • - SHEILA: AMAZING!
  • 00:25:40.020 --> 00:25:40.180
  • - SHEILA: BUT WHEN I COME
  • 00:25:41.290 --> 00:25:42.190
  • HOME, WHAT I DO IS I GRAB MY
  • 00:25:42.190 --> 00:25:43.090
  • WELL-WORN BIBLE AND A CUP OF
  • 00:25:43.090 --> 00:25:45.020
  • COFFEE, AND I SIT WITH--
  • 00:25:45.020 --> 00:25:46.280
  • AND THERE'S SOME DAYS WHEN I
  • 00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:49.240
  • FEEL, LIKE, SO FULL I COULD
  • 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:50.140
  • STUDY TWO CHAPTERS.
  • 00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:51.270
  • BUT ON SOME DAYS WHEN I DON'T,
  • 00:25:51.270 --> 00:25:53.160
  • LIKE THIS MORNING, PSALM 143,
  • 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:56.220
  • VERSE 8.
  • 00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:58.290
  • "LET THE MORNING BRING ME WORD
  • 00:25:58.290 --> 00:26:01.220
  • OF YOUR UNFAILING LOVE..."
  • 00:26:01.220 --> 00:26:03.050
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:26:03.050 --> 00:26:04.110
  • - SHEILA: "...FOR I HAVE PUT
  • 00:26:04.110 --> 00:26:05.020
  • MY TRUST IN YOU.
  • 00:26:05.020 --> 00:26:06.030
  • SHOW ME THE WAY I SHOULD GO,
  • 00:26:06.030 --> 00:26:06.240
  • FOR TO YOU I ENTRUST MY LIFE."
  • 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.160
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:26:12.100 --> 00:26:12.260
  • - SHEILA: NOW, PEOPLE SAY, "WE
  • 00:26:12.260 --> 00:26:13.180
  • DON'T MEDITATE -- THAT'S ALL
  • 00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:14.090
  • EASTERN STUFF."
  • 00:26:14.090 --> 00:26:14.290
  • NO, THAT'S OUR STUFF.
  • 00:26:14.290 --> 00:26:15.190
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:26:15.190 --> 00:26:16.060
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, EASTERN
  • 00:26:16.060 --> 00:26:17.080
  • RELIGION TELLS YOU TO EMPTY
  • 00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:17.280
  • YOUR MIND.
  • 00:26:17.280 --> 00:26:18.170
  • THE CHRISTIANS -- WE FILL OUR
  • 00:26:18.170 --> 00:26:19.180
  • MIND WITH THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:26:19.180 --> 00:26:21.030
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:26:21.030 --> 00:26:22.050
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:26:22.050 --> 00:26:22.210
  • THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:23.110
  • I LOVE IT.
  • 00:26:23.110 --> 00:26:24.040
  • YOU KNOW--
  • 00:26:24.040 --> 00:26:25.270
  • THIS LADY KNOWS HER BIBLE, BY
  • 00:26:26.090 --> 00:26:29.090
  • THE WAY.
  • 00:26:29.090 --> 00:26:30.040
  • I'M PICKIN' UP ON THAT.
  • 00:26:30.040 --> 00:26:30.290
  • [SHEILA LAUGHS]
  • 00:26:30.290 --> 00:26:31.160
  • YOU KNOW THE WORD.
  • 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:32.030
  • I LOVE IT, AND, UH--
  • 00:26:32.030 --> 00:26:32.280
  • SO, I'M NOT SURPRISED AT ALL
  • 00:26:32.280 --> 00:26:33.180
  • THAT YOU TEACH, EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:34.150
  • WEEK, ALL OVER THE WORLD,
  • 00:26:34.150 --> 00:26:36.110
  • THROUGH YOUR TELEVISION
  • 00:26:36.110 --> 00:26:37.020
  • PROGRAM.
  • 00:26:37.020 --> 00:26:37.140
  • IT'S SO POWERFUL.
  • 00:26:37.140 --> 00:26:39.050
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE
  • 00:26:39.050 --> 00:26:40.170
  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING IN
  • 00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:41.130
  • THE WORD.
  • 00:26:41.130 --> 00:26:41.290
  • AND I JUST WAS LOOKING AT THIS.
  • 00:26:41.290 --> 00:26:43.070
  • YOU HAVE A CHAPTER THAT I THINK
  • 00:26:43.070 --> 00:26:44.130
  • IS REALLY GREAT: "CHANGE THE
  • 00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:45.290
  • WAY YOU THINK."
  • 00:26:45.290 --> 00:26:47.260
  • I MEAN, I LOVE IT.
  • 00:26:47.260 --> 00:26:49.050
  • YOU WENT STRAIGHT TO THE WORD
  • 00:26:49.050 --> 00:26:50.140
  • FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
  • 00:26:50.140 --> 00:26:51.080
  • AND I LOVE IT.
  • 00:26:51.080 --> 00:26:52.060
  • I JUST WANNA POINT THIS OUT,
  • 00:26:52.060 --> 00:26:52.270
  • TOO, THAT HERE YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:26:52.270 --> 00:26:53.270
  • FAITHFUL AND GOD'S USED YOU FOR
  • 00:26:53.270 --> 00:26:55.120
  • SO MANY YEARS IN A POWERFUL WAY
  • 00:26:55.120 --> 00:26:56.040
  • ALL AROUND THE WORLD IN YOUR
  • 00:26:56.040 --> 00:26:56.270
  • TEACHING, YOUR SINGING, YOUR
  • 00:26:56.270 --> 00:26:57.180
  • ENTIRE MINISTRY.
  • 00:26:57.180 --> 00:26:58.240
  • AND I LOVE HOW YOU BROUGHT IT
  • 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.120
  • BACK TO YOUR WELL-WORN BIBLE.
  • 00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:03.090
  • BECAUSE YOUR PUBLIC MINISTRY
  • 00:27:03.090 --> 00:27:05.220
  • WILL NEVER RISE ABOVE YOUR
  • 00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:06.110
  • PRIVATE PRAYER LIFE.
  • 00:27:06.110 --> 00:27:09.020
  • - SHEILA: MNH-MNH.
  • 00:27:09.020 --> 00:27:09.180
  • NO.
  • 00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:10.110
  • - BIL: AND SO, HERE YOU ARE --
  • 00:27:10.110 --> 00:27:11.060
  • A WOMAN OF THE WORD, IN GOD'S
  • 00:27:11.060 --> 00:27:11.270
  • TRUTH.
  • 00:27:11.270 --> 00:27:12.170
  • BUT THAT TAKES A DISCIPLINE.
  • 00:27:12.170 --> 00:27:13.130
  • TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:14.070
  • TELL ME ABOUT HOW THAT AFFECTS
  • 00:27:14.070 --> 00:27:15.000
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:27:16.190 --> 00:27:17.080
  • INTERESTING -- WHEN PAUL WRITES
  • 00:27:17.080 --> 00:27:18.000
  • IN ROMANS 12:2, "...DO NOT BE
  • 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.260
  • CONFORMED TO THIS WORLD, BUT BE
  • 00:27:19.260 --> 00:27:21.150
  • TRANSFORMED BY THE RENEWING OF
  • 00:27:21.150 --> 00:27:22.150
  • YOUR MIND..." PUT THAT BACK IN
  • 00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:24.080
  • PAUL'S NOT LIVING WITH
  • 00:27:26.280 --> 00:27:27.160
  • INSTAGRAM, AND TWITTER, AND
  • 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:28.170
  • FACEBOOK, AND TV.
  • 00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:29.060
  • - BIL: YEAH...UGH.
  • 00:27:29.060 --> 00:27:30.050
  • - SHEILA: SO, IF PAUL NEEDED
  • 00:27:30.050 --> 00:27:31.240
  • TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE IN THOSE
  • 00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:32.150
  • DAYS, "DO NOT BE CONFORMED TO
  • 00:27:32.150 --> 00:27:33.280
  • THIS WORLD," IT'S OBVIOUSLY
  • 00:27:33.280 --> 00:27:35.200
  • BEEN SOMETHING WE HAVE
  • 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.060
  • STRUGGLED WITH FROM THE MOMENT
  • 00:27:37.060 --> 00:27:39.010
  • THAT ADAM AND EVE DECIDED TO
  • 00:27:39.010 --> 00:27:40.060
  • SEE WHAT LIFE ON THEIR OWN
  • 00:27:40.060 --> 00:27:42.210
  • LOOKED LIKE.
  • 00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:44.010
  • SO, FOR ME, THERE WORD
  • 00:27:44.010 --> 00:27:44.250
  • "TRANSFORMATION" --
  • 00:27:44.250 --> 00:27:45.140
  • IT ONLY OCCURS ONE TIME IN ALL
  • 00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:47.130
  • FOUR GOSPELS.
  • 00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:49.050
  • AND IT'S THAT MOMENT WHEN
  • 00:27:49.050 --> 00:27:50.060
  • CHRIST IS ON THAT MOUNT OF
  • 00:27:50.060 --> 00:27:51.250
  • CONFIGURATION--
  • 00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:53.090
  • - BIL: WOW. YEAH.
  • 00:27:53.090 --> 00:27:53.250
  • - SHEILA: --OF
  • 00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:54.150
  • TRANSFIGURATION...
  • 00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:55.000
  • - BIL: TRANSFIGURATION.
  • 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:55.220
  • YEAH.
  • 00:27:55.220 --> 00:27:56.020
  • - SHEILA: ...AND IT'S THIS
  • 00:27:56.020 --> 00:27:56.220
  • BEAUTIFUL THING, WHERE HE WAS
  • 00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:57.130
  • TRANSFORMED.
  • 00:27:57.130 --> 00:27:58.060
  • AND SCRIPTURE TELLS US ONE DAY
  • 00:27:58.060 --> 00:27:58.280
  • WE WILL ALL BE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:27:58.280 --> 00:28:00.140
  • ONE DAY WE WILL BE TRANSFORMED
  • 00:28:00.140 --> 00:28:01.200
  • AND WE WILL SHINE LIKE STARS.
  • 00:28:01.290 --> 00:28:04.290
  • BUT WE'RE STILL HERE IN THIS
  • 00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:05.250
  • EARTH.
  • 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:06.220
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:07.050
  • - SHEILA: SO, FOR NOW, THE WAY
  • 00:28:07.050 --> 00:28:08.150
  • THAT WE CHANGE THE WAY WE THINK
  • 00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:10.070
  • IS WE RE-WALLPAPER OUR MIND.
  • 00:28:10.070 --> 00:28:12.080
  • I MEAN, THINK ABOUT ALL THE
  • 00:28:12.080 --> 00:28:14.020
  • THINGS THAT WE TAKE IN ON A
  • 00:28:14.020 --> 00:28:14.220
  • DAILY BASIS.
  • 00:28:14.220 --> 00:28:15.250
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:16.230
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW...LIKE,
  • 00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:17.210
  • IT'S GOOD TO WATCH THE NEWS.
  • 00:28:17.210 --> 00:28:18.260
  • YOU KNOW, I DON'T DO IT EVERY
  • 00:28:18.260 --> 00:28:20.140
  • DAY, 'CAUSE IT CAN BE A LITTLE
  • 00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:21.220
  • DEPRESSING, BUT I-- I PAY
  • 00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:23.080
  • ATTENTION TO WHERE I SPEND MY
  • 00:28:23.080 --> 00:28:24.080
  • TIME.
  • 00:28:24.080 --> 00:28:26.080
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:28:26.080 --> 00:28:26.280
  • - SHEILA: BECAUSE WHEN THE
  • 00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:28.070
  • PSALMIST DAVID SAID, "MAY THE
  • 00:28:28.070 --> 00:28:29.110
  • WORDS OF MY MOUTH AND THE
  • 00:28:29.110 --> 00:28:30.000
  • MEDITATION OF MY HEART BE
  • 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:31.170
  • ACCEPTABLE, BE PLEASING TO YOU,
  • 00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:33.280
  • O LORD," THAT SAYS TO ME:
  • 00:28:33.280 --> 00:28:34.280
  • WHATEVER I'M MEDITATING ON IS
  • 00:28:34.280 --> 00:28:36.180
  • GONNA COME OUT OF MY MOUTH.
  • 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:37.270
  • SO, IF I'M MEDITATING JUST ON
  • 00:28:37.270 --> 00:28:39.140
  • EVERYTHING THAT'S ON TV, I HAVE
  • 00:28:39.140 --> 00:28:41.090
  • A FEELING THAT'S GONNA SNEAK
  • 00:28:41.090 --> 00:28:42.090
  • OUT OF MY MOUTH.
  • 00:28:42.090 --> 00:28:43.000
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:43.160
  • - SHEILA: BUT IF I'M
  • 00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.270
  • MEDITATING ON THE WORD OF GOD,
  • 00:28:44.270 --> 00:28:45.190
  • IF I'M WORSHIPING--
  • 00:28:45.190 --> 00:28:47.130
  • I HAVE A PRAISE, UM...A WHOLE
  • 00:28:48.170 --> 00:28:51.170
  • PRAISE LIST I LISTEN TO IN THE
  • 00:28:51.170 --> 00:28:52.080
  • CAR WHEN I'M DRIVING TO WORK.
  • 00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:52.290
  • AND EVEN ON DAYS WHEN I THINK,
  • 00:28:52.290 --> 00:28:54.040
  • "UGH, IT'S RAINING AND THE
  • 00:28:54.040 --> 00:28:55.160
  • TRAFFIC'S TERRIBLE," I'LL STICK
  • 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:56.240
  • THAT IN AND I'M LIKE, "NO,
  • 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.010
  • DEVIL -- NO, NOT TODAY!"
  • 00:28:58.010 --> 00:28:58.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:58.250 --> 00:29:00.220
  • AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT
  • 00:29:00.220 --> 00:29:01.260
  • THAT THAT JUST LIFTS US.
  • 00:29:01.260 --> 00:29:03.200
  • IT REMINDS US WHAT'S ALWAYS
  • 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.250
  • TRUE, NO MATTER WHAT MIGHT BE
  • 00:29:04.250 --> 00:29:06.030
  • TRUE AT THIS MOMENT.
  • 00:29:06.030 --> 00:29:07.190
  • - BIL: SO GOOD.
  • 00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:08.030
  • YOUR MOTHER WAS RIGHT,
  • 00:29:08.030 --> 00:29:08.200
  • BASICALLY, THAT GARBAGE IN...
  • 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:09.110
  • - SHEILA: YEP.
  • 00:29:09.110 --> 00:29:10.110
  • - BIL: ...GARBAGE OUT.
  • 00:29:10.110 --> 00:29:10.290
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:29:10.290 --> 00:29:11.130
  • - BIL: LIKE, IT'S REALLY,
  • 00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:12.020
  • REALLY TRUE.
  • 00:29:12.020 --> 00:29:13.000
  • - SHEILA: IT'S TRUE.
  • 00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:13.170
  • - BIL: IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S
  • 00:29:13.170 --> 00:29:14.080
  • MORE GARBAGE, NOW!
  • 00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:14.230
  • - SHEILA: I KNOW.
  • 00:29:14.230 --> 00:29:15.080
  • - BIL: THERE'S MORE ACCESS TO
  • 00:29:15.080 --> 00:29:16.000
  • IT.
  • 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:16.090
  • - SHEILA: AND WITH MORE ACCESS
  • 00:29:16.090 --> 00:29:17.010
  • TO GARBAGE.
  • 00:29:17.010 --> 00:29:17.160
  • AND YOU TALKED ABOUT SOCIAL
  • 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:18.060
  • MEDIA AND THE WAY THAT WE
  • 00:29:18.060 --> 00:29:19.060
  • COMPARE.
  • 00:29:19.060 --> 00:29:20.140
  • COMPARISON IS JUST DEADLY.
  • 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.240
  • - BIL: IT IS.
  • 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:24.100
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IF YOU
  • 00:29:24.100 --> 00:29:25.030
  • LOOK AT WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS
  • 00:29:25.030 --> 00:29:26.180
  • DOING...
  • 00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:27.030
  • UM, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS
  • 00:29:27.030 --> 00:29:28.000
  • INVITED TO JOIN-- THERE WAS A
  • 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.010
  • WOMEN'S MOVEMENT FOR 20 YEARS
  • 00:29:29.010 --> 00:29:30.290
  • CALLED WOMEN OF FAITH.
  • 00:29:30.290 --> 00:29:31.280
  • AND I WAS ASKED TO JOIN THE
  • 00:29:31.280 --> 00:29:33.060
  • TEAM.
  • 00:29:33.060 --> 00:29:34.190
  • AND I SAID YES, UNTIL THE VERY
  • 00:29:34.190 --> 00:29:35.230
  • FIRST NIGHT, WHEN I HEARD TWO
  • 00:29:35.230 --> 00:29:36.270
  • OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS.
  • 00:29:36.270 --> 00:29:38.120
  • AND THEY WERE SO BRILLIANT, I
  • 00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:39.250
  • THOUGHT, OH, GOSH...WHY DID I
  • 00:29:39.250 --> 00:29:41.020
  • SAY YES.
  • 00:29:41.020 --> 00:29:42.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:29:42.140 --> 00:29:42.280
  • AND I LOCKED MYSELF IN THE
  • 00:29:42.280 --> 00:29:43.260
  • BATHROOM IN THE ARENA.
  • 00:29:43.260 --> 00:29:44.210
  • AND I SAID, "LORD, I CAN'T DO
  • 00:29:44.210 --> 00:29:45.170
  • THIS."
  • 00:29:45.170 --> 00:29:46.020
  • AND I HEARD, CLEARLY, THE LORD
  • 00:29:46.020 --> 00:29:47.260
  • SAY: SHEILA, RUN IN YOUR OWN
  • 00:29:47.260 --> 00:29:49.130
  • LANE.
  • 00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:50.020
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:29:50.020 --> 00:29:51.010
  • - SHEILA: RUN IN YOUR OWN
  • 00:29:51.010 --> 00:29:51.200
  • LANE.
  • 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:51.290
  • I HAVE GIVEN YOU GIFTS THAT ARE
  • 00:29:51.290 --> 00:29:53.020
  • DIFFERENT, SO DON'T LOOK TO
  • 00:29:53.020 --> 00:29:54.140
  • YOUR RIGHT OR YOUR LEFT.
  • 00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:55.210
  • LOOK TO ME AND RUN IN YOUR OWN
  • 00:29:55.210 --> 00:29:57.010
  • LANE.
  • 00:29:57.010 --> 00:29:57.160
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:58.040
  • WOW.
  • 00:29:58.040 --> 00:29:58.140
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:29:58.140 --> 00:29:58.290
  • POWERFUL.
  • 00:29:58.290 --> 00:29:59.230
  • WOW!
  • 00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:00.100
  • OKAY, SO, HERE'S WHAT I WANT
  • 00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:03.140
  • YOU TO DO, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:04.280
  • IF THIS IS RESONATING WITH YOU,
  • 00:30:04.280 --> 00:30:06.040
  • WHICH I KNOW IT IS-- I'M
  • 00:30:06.040 --> 00:30:07.010
  • ABOUT-- I'M GONNA START TAKING
  • 00:30:07.010 --> 00:30:08.100
  • SOME NOTES HERE, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:30:08.100 --> 00:30:09.050
  • I MEAN, I HATE THAT I HAVE TO
  • 00:30:09.050 --> 00:30:10.000
  • HOST.
  • 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:11.030
  • I WANNA TAKE NOTES.
  • 00:30:11.030 --> 00:30:11.220
  • THIS IS INCREDIBLE STUFF AND
  • 00:30:11.220 --> 00:30:12.140
  • THIS CONTENT IS AVAILABLE TO
  • 00:30:12.140 --> 00:30:13.160
  • AND HERE'S WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT
  • 00:30:15.270 --> 00:30:16.180
  • THIS BOOK, "IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE
  • 00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:18.040
  • OKAY," HERE'S WHY I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:30:18.040 --> 00:30:19.110
  • GET THIS BOOK: BECAUSE YOU KNOW
  • 00:30:19.110 --> 00:30:20.030
  • SOMEONE THAT NEEDS THIS.
  • 00:30:20.030 --> 00:30:21.140
  • AND HERE'S WHAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:22.100
  • IT'S NOT JUST A SPIRITUAL-HIGH
  • 00:30:22.100 --> 00:30:23.200
  • MOMENT YOU'RE GONNA GET.
  • 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:24.230
  • YOU'RE GONNA GET STEPS -- EIGHT
  • 00:30:24.230 --> 00:30:25.150
  • SIMPLE STEPS TO CHANGING YOUR
  • 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.160
  • MIND, CHANGING YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.180
  • CHANGING YOUR OUTLOOK.
  • 00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:31.230
  • YOU DON'T WANNA MISS THIS.
  • 00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:33.020
  • GET THIS TODAY FOR A GIFT OF
  • 00:30:33.020 --> 00:30:34.120
  • $60 OR MORE TO THE MINISTRY.
  • 00:30:34.120 --> 00:30:36.110
  • YOU GET NOT ONLY SHEILA'S BOOK,
  • 00:30:36.110 --> 00:30:38.280
  • BUT YOU ALSO GET DR. DAVID
  • 00:30:38.280 --> 00:30:40.010
  • JEREMIAH'S BOOK "OVERCOMER."
  • 00:30:40.010 --> 00:30:41.130
  • WHAT A GREAT COMBO.
  • 00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:43.110
  • AND, LISTEN, THE RESOURCES ARE
  • 00:30:43.110 --> 00:30:44.100
  • GONNA COVER THESE BOOKS.
  • 00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:45.200
  • IT'S ALSO GONNA HELP TAKE THE
  • 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:46.270
  • GOSPEL AND TAKE THIS HOPE
  • 00:30:46.270 --> 00:30:48.270
  • YOU'RE GETTING, RIGHT NOW, TO
  • 00:30:48.270 --> 00:30:49.180
  • MORE PEOPLE.
  • 00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:51.200
  • SO, PLEASE GET THIS TODAY.
  • 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:52.090
  • IT'S AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE.
  • 00:30:52.090 --> 00:30:53.030
  • AND I WANNA DIG BACK IN.
  • 00:30:53.030 --> 00:30:53.290
  • CAN I DO THAT.
  • 00:30:53.290 --> 00:30:54.120
  • - SHEILA: OH, SURE!
  • 00:30:54.120 --> 00:30:56.030
  • - BIL: AND SO, I'M JUST
  • 00:30:56.030 --> 00:30:56.290
  • ENJOYING THIS, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:30:56.290 --> 00:30:57.180
  • I LOVE THIS.
  • 00:30:57.180 --> 00:30:58.200
  • I LOVE YOU SAY, "FACE THE
  • 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.190
  • WHAT-IFS."
  • 00:31:00.190 --> 00:31:02.210
  • ISN'T IT FUNNY HOW WE GET SO
  • 00:31:02.210 --> 00:31:03.120
  • WORKED UP?
  • 00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:03.290
  • WHAT IF THIS HAPPENS?
  • 00:31:03.290 --> 00:31:05.140
  • WHAT IF THEY SAID THIS?
  • 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.200
  • WHAT IF THAT HAPPENS?
  • 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:09.070
  • AND WE JUST GET FREAKED OUT.
  • 00:31:09.070 --> 00:31:09.270
  • TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:31:09.270 --> 00:31:10.250
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, AFTER MY
  • 00:31:10.250 --> 00:31:11.160
  • FATHER'S DEATH, UM, MY MOM
  • 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.090
  • PRAYED TWO PRAYERS, WHICH SHE
  • 00:31:12.090 --> 00:31:14.110
  • TOLD ME AS I WAS GROWING UP.
  • 00:31:14.110 --> 00:31:15.220
  • SHE PRAYED THAT, ONE, SHE WOULD
  • 00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:17.160
  • SEE EACH ONE OF US COMING TO
  • 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.270
  • KNOW CHRIST AT AN EARLY AGE --
  • 00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:20.200
  • MY BROTHER, AND MY SISTER, AND
  • 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:21.210
  • I.
  • 00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:22.060
  • AND, TWO, THAT SHE WOULD SEE US
  • 00:31:22.060 --> 00:31:23.110
  • GROWN UP AND INTO OUR OWN
  • 00:31:23.110 --> 00:31:24.000
  • CALLING.
  • 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:25.000
  • AND MY BROTHER WAS THE LAST TO
  • 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.110
  • GRADUATE AS AN ARCHITECT.
  • 00:31:26.110 --> 00:31:27.230
  • AND SO, BY THEN, I WAS LIVING
  • 00:31:27.230 --> 00:31:29.060
  • OVER HERE.
  • 00:31:29.060 --> 00:31:30.040
  • SO, I FLEW BACK HOME AND I SAID
  • 00:31:30.040 --> 00:31:31.060
  • TO MY MOM, "OKAY, I'M HERE TO
  • 00:31:31.060 --> 00:31:32.240
  • DREAM WITH YOU FOR THE NEXT
  • 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.210
  • PART OF YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:34.270
  • AND SHE SAID, "WHAT ARE YOU
  • 00:31:34.270 --> 00:31:35.250
  • TALKIN' ABOUT?"
  • 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:36.180
  • AND I SAID: "MOM, GOD HAS
  • 00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:37.150
  • ANSWERED THOSE TWO PRAYERS.
  • 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:39.040
  • SO, IF YOU STILL HAVE A PULSE
  • 00:31:39.040 --> 00:31:41.020
  • AND THERE'S NOT A WHITE CHALK
  • 00:31:41.020 --> 00:31:42.050
  • MARK AROUND YOUR BODY, YOU'RE
  • 00:31:42.050 --> 00:31:42.260
  • - BIL: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:31:44.180 --> 00:31:45.050
  • - SHEILA: AND I SAID, "WHAT
  • 00:31:45.050 --> 00:31:45.260
  • HAVE YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO DO?"
  • 00:31:45.260 --> 00:31:46.180
  • AND SHE SAID, "WELL, I USED TO
  • 00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:47.140
  • WANT TO TEACH, OR TO HAVE A
  • 00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:48.070
  • BIBLE STUDY."
  • 00:31:48.070 --> 00:31:49.030
  • AND I SAID, "OKAY, I'LL DRAW UP
  • 00:31:49.030 --> 00:31:50.160
  • LITTLE FLYERS AND WE'LL INVITE
  • 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:51.110
  • ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS."
  • 00:31:51.110 --> 00:31:52.220
  • AND SHE SAID, "WELL, WHAT IF
  • 00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:54.110
  • NOBODY COMES?"
  • 00:31:54.110 --> 00:31:54.250
  • AND I SAID, "WELL, NOBODY
  • 00:31:54.250 --> 00:31:55.140
  • COMES, YOU AND I WILL EAT ALL
  • 00:31:55.140 --> 00:31:56.240
  • THE CAKES."
  • 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:59.010 --> 00:31:59.140
  • AND SHE SAID, "WHAT IF PEOPLE
  • 00:31:59.140 --> 00:32:01.010
  • DO COME?"
  • 00:32:01.010 --> 00:32:01.130
  • AND I'M LIKE, "WELL, THAT'LL BE
  • 00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:02.080
  • GREAT."
  • 00:32:02.080 --> 00:32:02.200
  • SHE SAID, "WHAT IF I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:03.130
  • THE ANSWERS?"
  • 00:32:03.130 --> 00:32:04.170
  • AND I SAID, "THEN, WE'LL JUST
  • 00:32:04.170 --> 00:32:05.110
  • SIMPLY SAY, 'YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:32:05.110 --> 00:32:06.040
  • WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS.
  • 00:32:06.040 --> 00:32:07.040
  • COME BACK NEXT WEEK.'"
  • 00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:08.010
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:32:08.010 --> 00:32:08.170
  • - SHEILA: AND I WATCHED MY MOM
  • 00:32:08.170 --> 00:32:09.270
  • ON THAT VERY FIRST ONE, I TOOK
  • 00:32:09.270 --> 00:32:11.030
  • A BACKSEAT, SHARING WITH HER
  • 00:32:11.030 --> 00:32:12.010
  • NEIGHBORS.
  • 00:32:12.050 --> 00:32:15.050
  • AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THE CALL
  • 00:32:15.050 --> 00:32:16.070
  • WHEN SHE CALLED ME AND TOLD ME
  • 00:32:16.070 --> 00:32:17.020
  • ABOUT THE FIRST OF HER
  • 00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:17.260
  • NEIGHBORS SHE GOT TO LEAD TO
  • 00:32:17.260 --> 00:32:18.210
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:19.090
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:32:19.090 --> 00:32:20.050
  • - SHEILA: SO OFTEN, THE
  • 00:32:20.050 --> 00:32:21.030
  • WHAT-IFS HOLD US BACK.
  • 00:32:21.030 --> 00:32:22.160
  • BUT DON'T BE AFRAID TO STEP
  • 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.060
  • THROUGH YOUR FEAR.
  • 00:32:24.060 --> 00:32:24.250
  • DO IT AFRAID BECAUSE JESUS IS
  • 00:32:24.250 --> 00:32:26.200
  • WITH YOU.
  • 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:27.130
  • - BIL: OH, THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:32:27.130 --> 00:32:28.010
  • "DO IT AFRAID," -- IS THAT WHAT
  • 00:32:28.010 --> 00:32:29.100
  • YOU JUST SAID?
  • 00:32:29.100 --> 00:32:29.240
  • - SHEILA: THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:30.150
  • ELISABETH ELLIOT TOLD ME.
  • 00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:31.230
  • - BIL: OH, I LOVE THAT!
  • 00:32:31.230 --> 00:32:32.110
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, ELISABETH
  • 00:32:32.110 --> 00:32:33.020
  • ELLIOT WAS MARRIED TO JIM
  • 00:32:33.020 --> 00:32:33.280
  • ELLIOT, YOU KNOW, WHO LOST HIS
  • 00:32:33.280 --> 00:32:34.210
  • LIFE--
  • 00:32:34.210 --> 00:32:35.060
  • - BIL: INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:32:35.060 --> 00:32:37.200
  • - SHEILA: --TO THE AUCA
  • 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.080
  • INDIANS.
  • 00:32:38.080 --> 00:32:38.190
  • AND, WHAT I DIDN'T REALIZE WAS
  • 00:32:38.190 --> 00:32:39.160
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN ELIZABETH
  • 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.000
  • STAYED ON, IN THAT AREA, HER
  • 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:42.090
  • DAUGHTER, VALERIE, WAS JUST
  • 00:32:42.090 --> 00:32:42.290
  • THREE.
  • 00:32:42.290 --> 00:32:45.060
  • AND SHE WANTED TO REACH THESE
  • 00:32:45.060 --> 00:32:46.070
  • PEOPLE, BUT THEY'D KILLED HER
  • 00:32:46.070 --> 00:32:46.280
  • HUSBAND.
  • 00:32:46.280 --> 00:32:47.200
  • WHAT IF THEY KILLED HER?
  • 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.220
  • WHAT IF THEIR DAUGHTER WAS LEFT
  • 00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:49.200
  • WITH NO ONE?
  • 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:50.050
  • BUT SHE WAS COMPELLED BY THE
  • 00:32:50.050 --> 00:32:52.090
  • HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:32:52.090 --> 00:32:52.260
  • BUT SHE WAS AFRAID.
  • 00:32:52.260 --> 00:32:53.290
  • SO, HER FRIEND SAID TO HER,
  • 00:32:53.290 --> 00:32:55.040
  • "ELIZABETH, DO IT AFRAID."
  • 00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:56.290
  • - BIL: INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:32:56.290 --> 00:32:57.150
  • - SHEILA: AND I'VE NEVER
  • 00:32:57.150 --> 00:32:58.120
  • FORGOTTEN THAT.
  • 00:32:58.120 --> 00:32:58.280
  • IF WE LET OUR FEAR HOLD US
  • 00:32:58.280 --> 00:33:01.130
  • BACK--
  • 00:33:01.130 --> 00:33:03.000
  • - BIL: WOW!
  • 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:03.210
  • - SHEILA: --WE'LL NEVER
  • 00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:04.090
  • FULFILL THE DESTINY.
  • 00:33:04.090 --> 00:33:04.250
  • - BIL: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:33:04.250 --> 00:33:05.220
  • - SHEILA: 'CAUSE EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:33:05.220 --> 00:33:06.160
  • ONE OF US HAS A DESTINY, A
  • 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.050
  • UNIQUE CALLING FROM CHRIST.
  • 00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:07.250
  • - BIL: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:33:07.250 --> 00:33:08.110
  • I LOVE IT.
  • 00:33:08.110 --> 00:33:09.170
  • YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, "WELL,
  • 00:33:09.170 --> 00:33:10.070
  • WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT?"
  • 00:33:10.070 --> 00:33:10.280
  • WHAT IF IT DOES?
  • 00:33:10.280 --> 00:33:11.120
  • - SHEILA: YEAH -- RIGHT!
  • 00:33:11.120 --> 00:33:12.140
  • - BIL: WHAT IF IT WORKS OUT
  • 00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:13.040
  • BEAUTIFULLY?
  • 00:33:13.040 --> 00:33:15.000
  • - SHEILA: THAT'S WHAT I'VE
  • 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:15.200
  • ALWAYS SAID TO MY SON: NEVER BE
  • 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:16.160
  • AFRAID OF FAILING.
  • 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:17.010
  • - BIL: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:33:17.010 --> 00:33:18.150
  • - SHEILA: FAILING IS A GREAT
  • 00:33:18.150 --> 00:33:19.190
  • TEACHER.
  • 00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:20.110
  • JUST BE AFRAID OF NEVER TRYING.
  • 00:33:20.110 --> 00:33:21.030
  • - BIL: RIGHT.
  • 00:33:21.030 --> 00:33:22.210
  • WHAT IF I ASK HER OUT AND SHE
  • 00:33:22.210 --> 00:33:23.120
  • SAYS NO?
  • 00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:23.230
  • WELL, THEN, YOU'RE GONNA STAY
  • 00:33:23.230 --> 00:33:24.140
  • HOME FRIDAY NIGHT LIKE YOU DID
  • 00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:25.060
  • LAST FRIDAY NIGHT?
  • 00:33:25.060 --> 00:33:25.220
  • WHAT-- WHAT'S THE LOSS?
  • 00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:26.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:26.140 --> 00:33:26.260
  • YOU KNOW, RIGHT?
  • 00:33:26.260 --> 00:33:27.110
  • GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT STEP,
  • 00:33:27.110 --> 00:33:28.010
  • TAKE THAT STEP OF FAITH.
  • 00:33:28.010 --> 00:33:29.150
  • WHATEVER IT IS, TAKE THE STEP
  • 00:33:29.150 --> 00:33:30.060
  • OF FAITH AND BE WILLING TO TAKE
  • 00:33:30.060 --> 00:33:31.050
  • THE RISK.
  • 00:33:31.050 --> 00:33:31.220
  • YOU KNOW, YOU'VE TAKEN A RISK
  • 00:33:31.220 --> 00:33:32.230
  • BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SO
  • 00:33:32.230 --> 00:33:33.240
  • VULNERABLE IN YOUR BOOK.
  • 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:34.210
  • AND YOU JUST-- YOU JUST PUT
  • 00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:35.260
  • YOURSELF OUT THERE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:33:35.260 --> 00:33:37.070
  • TELL ME ABOUT-- WAS IT A LITTLE
  • 00:33:37.070 --> 00:33:38.140
  • CATHARTIC FOR YOU TO DO THAT,
  • 00:33:38.140 --> 00:33:40.030
  • JUST TO KIND OF LAY IT OUT
  • 00:33:40.030 --> 00:33:42.010
  • THERE?
  • 00:33:42.010 --> 00:33:42.200
  • WAS IT A LITTLE THERAPY FOR YOU
  • 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:43.120
  • TO--
  • 00:33:43.120 --> 00:33:43.270
  • DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
  • 00:33:43.270 --> 00:33:45.110
  • - SHEILA: SURE!
  • 00:33:45.110 --> 00:33:45.270
  • - BIL: LIKE, THE BIBLE TALKS
  • 00:33:45.270 --> 00:33:46.240
  • ABOUT JOURNALING AND I'M
  • 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:47.170
  • THINKIN'--
  • 00:33:47.170 --> 00:33:48.020
  • - SHEILA: SURE!
  • 00:33:48.020 --> 00:33:48.170
  • - BIL: --I BET AS YOU WERE
  • 00:33:48.170 --> 00:33:49.070
  • WRITING THIS, YOU WERE LIKE,
  • 00:33:49.070 --> 00:33:50.000
  • "OH, MAN, I REMEMBER GOD -- YOU
  • 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.220
  • BROUGHT ME THROUGH THIS AND YOU
  • 00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:51.240
  • BROUGHT ME THROUGH THAT."
  • 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:52.190
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:33:52.190 --> 00:33:53.110
  • - BIL: TELL ME ABOUT THE
  • 00:33:53.110 --> 00:33:54.000
  • PROCESS FOR YOU.
  • 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:54.190
  • - SHEILA: I TAKE MY TEMPLATE
  • 00:33:54.190 --> 00:33:55.100
  • FOR MINISTRY FROM PAUL'S LETTER
  • 00:33:55.100 --> 00:33:56.020
  • HE SAID: WE'VE DETERMINED AMONG
  • 00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.080
  • YOU NOT JUST TO SHARE THE
  • 00:33:58.080 --> 00:33:58.270
  • GOSPEL BUT OUR VERY LIVES.
  • 00:33:58.270 --> 00:34:01.110
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:34:01.180 --> 00:34:04.180
  • - SHEILA: SO, TO ME, THERE'S
  • 00:34:04.180 --> 00:34:05.090
  • POWER IN SHARING OUR STORY, BUT
  • 00:34:05.090 --> 00:34:06.100
  • WHICH IS GOD'S STORY,
  • 00:34:08.140 --> 00:34:09.010
  • WHICH IS WHY I SAY ABOUT
  • 00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:09.190
  • THIS BOOK: THIS IS NOT
  • 00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:10.060
  • SELF-HELP.
  • 00:34:10.060 --> 00:34:11.040
  • SELF-HELP'S NO HELP AT ALL.
  • 00:34:11.040 --> 00:34:11.240
  • THIS IS GOD HELP.
  • 00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:14.010
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:14.200
  • - SHEILA: THIS IS HOW GOD MET
  • 00:34:14.200 --> 00:34:15.250
  • ME.
  • 00:34:15.250 --> 00:34:16.090
  • BUT I THINK-- YOU KNOW, I THINK
  • 00:34:16.090 --> 00:34:17.220
  • OF WOMEN WHO'VE LOST A CHILD.
  • 00:34:17.220 --> 00:34:18.220
  • - BIL: MMH.
  • 00:34:18.220 --> 00:34:19.090
  • - SHEILA: THAT'S A PAIN I
  • 00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:20.070
  • CAN'T IMAGINE.
  • 00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:21.110
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:34:21.110 --> 00:34:22.240
  • - SHEILA: BUT IF YOU'VE GONE
  • 00:34:22.240 --> 00:34:23.150
  • THROUGH THAT, ONCE YOU'VE COME
  • 00:34:23.150 --> 00:34:25.010
  • TO A PLACE SUFFICIENT IN YOUR
  • 00:34:25.010 --> 00:34:26.170
  • HEALING, YOU CAN REACH ANOTHER
  • 00:34:26.170 --> 00:34:28.110
  • WOMAN IN A WAY I NEVER WILL.
  • 00:34:28.110 --> 00:34:29.200
  • IF YOU'VE STRUGGLED WITH
  • 00:34:29.200 --> 00:34:31.050
  • ALCOHOLISM, IF YOU HAVE
  • 00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:32.180
  • ANYTHING -- A DRUG ADDICTION,
  • 00:34:32.180 --> 00:34:33.180
  • WHATEVER IT IS -- WHEN WE'RE
  • 00:34:33.180 --> 00:34:34.240
  • ABLE-- WHICH IS WHY ONE OF MY
  • 00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:36.270
  • FAVORITE CHAPTERS IS CALLED
  • 00:34:36.270 --> 00:34:38.030
  • "CELEBRATE YOUR SCARS AS
  • 00:34:38.030 --> 00:34:40.040
  • TATTOOS OF TRIUMPH."
  • 00:34:40.040 --> 00:34:43.010
  • - BIL: THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:34:43.010 --> 00:34:43.180
  • - SHEILA: GOD TELLS HIS STORY
  • 00:34:43.180 --> 00:34:44.090
  • IN SCARS.
  • 00:34:44.090 --> 00:34:46.120
  • CHRIST COULD HAVE DECIDED TO
  • 00:34:46.120 --> 00:34:47.020
  • RISE FROM THE DEAD AND LEAVE
  • 00:34:47.020 --> 00:34:48.140
  • THE SCARS BEHIND IN THE TOMB,
  • 00:34:48.140 --> 00:34:51.030
  • WITH THE WRAP.
  • 00:34:51.030 --> 00:34:51.160
  • BUT HE DIDN'T.
  • 00:34:51.160 --> 00:34:52.160
  • IF JESUS CHOSE TO RISE WITH HIS
  • 00:34:52.160 --> 00:34:54.080
  • SCARS, WHY SHOULD WE BE AFRAID
  • 00:34:54.080 --> 00:34:56.120
  • OF OURS-- ASHAMED OF OURS?
  • 00:34:56.120 --> 00:34:58.210
  • SCARS ARE PROOF THAT GOD HEALS.
  • 00:34:58.210 --> 00:34:59.130
  • THEY'RE NOT OPEN WOUNDS
  • 00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:00.190
  • ANYMORE.
  • 00:35:00.190 --> 00:35:01.030
  • THEY'RE PLACES WHERE WE CAN
  • 00:35:01.030 --> 00:35:02.170
  • SAY: HERE'S WHERE THE GRACE AND
  • 00:35:02.170 --> 00:35:04.070
  • MERCY OF GOD MET ME.
  • 00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:06.170
  • AND HE WILL MEET YOU, TOO.
  • 00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:07.060
  • - BIL: THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:35:07.060 --> 00:35:07.250
  • IT'S A SIGN OF NOT WHERE
  • 00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:08.230
  • YOU ARE, BUT WHERE YOU WERE.
  • 00:35:08.230 --> 00:35:09.240
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:35:09.240 --> 00:35:10.260
  • - BIL: YOU'RE NOT THERE,
  • 00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:11.170
  • ANYMORE.
  • 00:35:11.170 --> 00:35:12.000
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:12.140
  • - BIL: SO, YOU'VE BEEN HEALED
  • 00:35:12.140 --> 00:35:13.140
  • OF THAT.
  • 00:35:13.140 --> 00:35:13.250
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:35:13.250 --> 00:35:14.110
  • YOU KNOW, THIS BOOK IS GONNA
  • 00:35:14.110 --> 00:35:16.130
  • HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:35:16.130 --> 00:35:17.000
  • - BIL: IT REALLY IS.
  • 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:19.170
  • IT'S HELPING US, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:20.070
  • WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
  • 00:35:20.070 --> 00:35:21.000
  • I MEAN, GOD IS ALREADY USING
  • 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:21.210
  • THIS TO SPEAK TO US.
  • 00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:22.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:22.190
  • GREAT STUFF.
  • 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:25.150
  • THE ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT--
  • 00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:27.140
  • THE ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT TBN
  • 00:35:27.140 --> 00:35:29.040
  • IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MATT IS SO
  • 00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:30.220
  • GOOD, MATT AND LAURIE BOTH, ARE
  • 00:35:30.220 --> 00:35:31.260
  • SO GOOD ABOUT REALLY WANTING TO
  • 00:35:31.260 --> 00:35:33.110
  • GET PRODUCTS THAT HELP PEOPLE.
  • 00:35:33.110 --> 00:35:35.140
  • THIS ISN'T: LET'S SELL A
  • 00:35:35.140 --> 00:35:37.040
  • TRINKET.
  • 00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:37.180
  • THIS IS: NO, LET'S REALLY HELP
  • 00:35:37.180 --> 00:35:38.200
  • PEOPLE--
  • 00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:39.160
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:35:39.160 --> 00:35:40.000
  • - BIL: --AND LET'S REALLY GIVE
  • 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:40.220
  • THEM VALUE, MORE VALUE THAN
  • 00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:41.120
  • THEY THINK THEY'RE GIVING TO
  • 00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:42.290
  • THE MINISTRY.
  • 00:35:42.290 --> 00:35:43.280
  • LET'S MAKE SURE THEY GET
  • 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:44.240
  • MINISTRY.
  • 00:35:44.240 --> 00:35:45.210
  • AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BOOK DOES.
  • 00:35:45.210 --> 00:35:46.130
  • IT REALLY GIVES YOU GREAT
  • 00:35:46.130 --> 00:35:47.180
  • VALUE.
  • 00:35:47.180 --> 00:35:48.250
  • YOU GOTTA GET THIS.
  • 00:35:48.250 --> 00:35:49.110
  • PICK THIS UP TODAY.
  • 00:35:49.110 --> 00:35:50.120
  • I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO PICK
  • 00:35:50.120 --> 00:35:51.030
  • IT UP, READ IT, AND THEN, PASS
  • 00:35:51.030 --> 00:35:52.020
  • IT ALONG TO SOMEONE ELSE.
  • 00:35:52.020 --> 00:35:53.290
  • GIFT IT.
  • 00:35:53.290 --> 00:35:54.180
  • SO, I'M A BIG BOOK-GIFTER.
  • 00:35:54.180 --> 00:35:55.090
  • DO YOU DO THAT?
  • 00:35:55.090 --> 00:35:56.080
  • - SHEILA: I DO.
  • 00:35:56.080 --> 00:35:56.230
  • - BIL: I LOVE TO GIFT A GOOD
  • 00:35:56.230 --> 00:35:57.140
  • BOOK.
  • 00:35:57.140 --> 00:35:58.140
  • - SHEILA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:35:58.140 --> 00:35:58.290
  • - BIL: THIS IS A GREAT BOOK.
  • 00:35:58.290 --> 00:35:59.200
  • MAYBE YOU SAY, "WELL, THIS IS
  • 00:35:59.200 --> 00:36:00.130
  • SO GOOD, BUT I KNOW JUST THE
  • 00:36:00.130 --> 00:36:01.030
  • PERSON WHO NEEDS THIS BOOK."
  • 00:36:01.030 --> 00:36:01.240
  • THEN, GET IT TO THEM, RIGHT
  • 00:36:01.240 --> 00:36:02.140
  • NOW.
  • 00:36:02.140 --> 00:36:03.050
  • HELP THEM START THEIR 2019 IN
  • 00:36:03.050 --> 00:36:04.120
  • AN AMAZING WAY.
  • 00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:06.140
  • AND, KEEP ONE FOR YOURSELF,
  • 00:36:06.140 --> 00:36:07.150
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:36:07.150 --> 00:36:08.010
  • I'LL LET YOU PICK WHICH ONE YOU
  • 00:36:08.010 --> 00:36:08.260
  • WANNA READ FIRST.
  • 00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:09.110
  • BUT YOU CAN GET DR. DAVID
  • 00:36:09.110 --> 00:36:11.080
  • JEREMIAH'S BOOK "OVERCOMER,"
  • 00:36:11.080 --> 00:36:12.150
  • AS WELL AS SHEILA WALSH'S
  • 00:36:12.150 --> 00:36:13.180
  • BRAND-NEW BOOK.
  • 00:36:13.180 --> 00:36:15.030
  • THIS IS ONLY THREE WEEKS OLD.
  • 00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:15.290
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:36:15.290 --> 00:36:16.130
  • - BIL: IT'S BRAND-NEW.
  • 00:36:16.130 --> 00:36:17.010
  • AND SO, "IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE
  • 00:36:17.010 --> 00:36:17.210
  • OKAY."
  • 00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:18.000
  • PICK THESE BOOKS UP.
  • 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:18.210
  • THEY WILL ENCOURAGE YOU,
  • 00:36:18.210 --> 00:36:20.240
  • THEY'LL MOTIVATE YOU.
  • 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:23.170
  • AND MY FAVORITE PART ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:36:23.170 --> 00:36:24.090
  • BOOK IS IT'S A PRACTICAL PLAN!
  • 00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:25.000
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:26.010
  • - BIL: SOMETIMES WE'RE SO
  • 00:36:26.010 --> 00:36:27.060
  • SPIRITUAL THAT WE'RE NO EARTHLY
  • 00:36:27.060 --> 00:36:27.280
  • GOOD.
  • 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.210
  • I MEAN, YOU'VE PROBABLY
  • 00:36:29.210 --> 00:36:30.170
  • THOUGHT: I'M GONNA PRAY MY
  • 00:36:30.170 --> 00:36:31.080
  • DEPRESSION AWAY.
  • 00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:32.150
  • I'M GONNA PRAY MY SHAME AWAY.
  • 00:36:32.150 --> 00:36:34.020
  • AND PRAYER WORKS -- DON'T GET
  • 00:36:34.020 --> 00:36:34.250
  • ME WRONG.
  • 00:36:34.250 --> 00:36:35.140
  • BUT THERE'S GOOD HELP YOU CAN
  • 00:36:35.140 --> 00:36:38.000
  • GET FROM GODLY WISDOM, AS WELL.
  • 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.040
  • - SHEILA: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:42.050
  • - BIL: AND YOU GIVE THAT.
  • 00:36:42.050 --> 00:36:43.040
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:43.180
  • WHAT WAS THE HARDEST STEP FOR
  • 00:36:43.180 --> 00:36:44.090
  • YOU, SHEILA,
  • 00:36:44.090 --> 00:36:44.240
  • WITH ALL OF THIS?
  • 00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:46.270
  • WHAT WAS THE STEP YOU JUST
  • 00:36:46.270 --> 00:36:47.280
  • THOUGHT, "MAN, I DON'T THINK I
  • 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.200
  • - SHEILA: I THINK, RISE
  • 00:36:50.180 --> 00:36:51.090
  • ABOVE DISAPPOINTMENT IS ONE OF
  • 00:36:51.090 --> 00:36:52.000
  • THE CHAPTERS THAT I STRUGGLED
  • 00:36:52.230 --> 00:36:55.230
  • BECAUSE, I'M SURE YOU KNOW
  • 00:36:58.170 --> 00:36:59.060
  • PEOPLE LIKE THIS, AND I KNOW
  • 00:36:59.060 --> 00:37:00.160
  • YOU DO -- PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO--
  • 00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:01.070
  • IT'S JUST LIKE ONE THING AFTER
  • 00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:01.290
  • ANOTHER THAT HITS THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:37:01.290 --> 00:37:02.260
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:03.210
  • - SHEILA: AND YOU THINK, LORD,
  • 00:37:03.210 --> 00:37:04.140
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:08.030
  • - SHEILA: AND YET, WE'RE TOLD
  • 00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:08.250
  • -- I MEAN, PAUL TELLS US -- WE
  • 00:37:08.250 --> 00:37:09.220
  • HAVE THIS HOPE THAT WILL NOT
  • 00:37:09.220 --> 00:37:10.140
  • DISAPPOINT.
  • 00:37:10.140 --> 00:37:12.160
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:37:12.160 --> 00:37:13.030
  • - SHEILA: AND, SOMETIMES, FOR
  • 00:37:13.030 --> 00:37:14.060
  • ME, IT'S REMEMBERING WE'RE NOT
  • 00:37:14.060 --> 00:37:15.110
  • HOME YET.
  • 00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:15.270
  • YOU KNOW, WE ARE LIVING IN
  • 00:37:15.270 --> 00:37:16.190
  • PLAN B.
  • 00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:17.280
  • BUT CHRIST IS A REDEEMER IN
  • 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.060
  • PLAN B.
  • 00:37:19.060 --> 00:37:20.250
  • I TALK ABOUT, UM, BEING IN THE
  • 00:37:20.250 --> 00:37:22.120
  • HALLWAYS OF LIFE, WHERE YOU
  • 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.000
  • FEEL AS IF A DOOR IS SLAMMED IN
  • 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.000
  • YOUR FACE.
  • 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:29.040
  • ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I WENT
  • 00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:30.060
  • THROUGH A THING WHERE THERE WAS
  • 00:37:30.060 --> 00:37:31.240
  • SOMETHING HAPPENING WITH MY
  • 00:37:31.240 --> 00:37:32.190
  • BACK.
  • 00:37:32.190 --> 00:37:33.070
  • AND IT GOT TO THE STAGE WHERE I
  • 00:37:33.070 --> 00:37:34.170
  • COULD HARDLY WALK.
  • 00:37:34.170 --> 00:37:35.290
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:37:35.290 --> 00:37:36.140
  • - SHEILA: AND IT SEEMED LIKE
  • 00:37:36.140 --> 00:37:37.250
  • MY WHOLE LIFE WAS JUST GONNA BE
  • 00:37:37.250 --> 00:37:38.170
  • STOPPED AND CLOSED IN.
  • 00:37:38.170 --> 00:37:40.160
  • AND I WAS STRUGGLING WITH THAT
  • 00:37:40.160 --> 00:37:41.210
  • BECAUSE I THOUGHT, LORD, WHAT
  • 00:37:41.210 --> 00:37:43.160
  • IF I CAN'T WALK AGAIN?
  • 00:37:43.160 --> 00:37:44.190
  • WHAT IF I CAN'T GO OUT AND
  • 00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:45.090
  • MINISTER?
  • 00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:46.100
  • WHAT IF I'M STUCK IN MY OWN
  • 00:37:46.100 --> 00:37:47.030
  • BED?
  • 00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:48.060
  • MY HUSBAND TOLD ME, LATER, THAT
  • 00:37:48.060 --> 00:37:49.140
  • HE ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WAS GONNA
  • 00:37:49.140 --> 00:37:50.220
  • DIE.
  • 00:37:50.220 --> 00:37:51.050
  • HE SAID, "YOU WERE DISAPPEARING
  • 00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:52.090
  • A LITTLE BIT MORE EVERY DAY."
  • 00:37:52.090 --> 00:37:53.090
  • - BIL: HMH.
  • 00:37:53.090 --> 00:37:53.260
  • - SHEILA: BUT AS I BEGAN TO
  • 00:37:53.260 --> 00:37:55.080
  • CRY OUT TO GOD, THE SAME ANSWER
  • 00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:56.100
  • CAME: I WILL BE THERE.
  • 00:37:56.100 --> 00:37:58.140
  • I WILL BE THERE.
  • 00:37:58.140 --> 00:38:00.190
  • WE ARE NOT PROMISED A CERTAIN
  • 00:38:00.190 --> 00:38:02.080
  • OUTCOME; WE ARE PROMISED THE
  • 00:38:02.080 --> 00:38:03.290
  • PRESENCE OF CHRIST, NO MATTER
  • 00:38:03.290 --> 00:38:05.130
  • WHAT THE OUTCOME.
  • 00:38:05.130 --> 00:38:06.260
  • AND I'VE DISCOVERED WHEN A DOOR
  • 00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:08.160
  • HAS BEEN SLAMMED IN YOUR FACE,
  • 00:38:08.160 --> 00:38:09.130
  • CHRIST IS THE REDEEMER IN THE
  • 00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:11.040
  • HALLWAY.
  • 00:38:11.040 --> 00:38:12.150
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:38:12.150 --> 00:38:14.150
  • - SHEILA: AND WHEN I WAS BEING
  • 00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:15.070
  • PUSHED IN FOR THAT BACK
  • 00:38:15.070 --> 00:38:15.250
  • SURGERY, WHERE THEY REMOVED A
  • 00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:16.160
  • DISK FROM MY BACK AND A DISK
  • 00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:17.150
  • THROUGH THE FRONT, AND THE
  • 00:38:17.150 --> 00:38:18.210
  • NURSE SAID TO ME, UM, "WHAT ARE
  • 00:38:18.210 --> 00:38:20.060
  • YOU SINGING?"
  • 00:38:20.060 --> 00:38:22.030
  • AND I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE
  • 00:38:22.030 --> 00:38:22.220
  • I WAS, AND I REALIZED I
  • 00:38:22.220 --> 00:38:24.000
  • WAS SINGING "I SURRENDER ALL."
  • 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.180
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:38:25.180 --> 00:38:26.130
  • - SHEILA: BUT THAT WAS IN THE
  • 00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:27.040
  • NOT--
  • 00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:27.250
  • THAT'S WHY I WANT PEOPLE TO
  • 00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:28.150
  • KNOW: THAT WAS IN THE NOT
  • 00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:29.110
  • KNOWING.
  • 00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:29.250
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:30.080
  • - SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:38:30.080 --> 00:38:32.190
  • EASIER TO SING THAT WHEN WE GET
  • 00:38:32.190 --> 00:38:33.110
  • THROUGH AND WE GET THE OUTCOME
  • 00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:34.030
  • WE HOPE FOR, BUT WHAT I HAVE
  • 00:38:34.030 --> 00:38:34.230
  • DISCOVERED IS WHEN YOU DON'T
  • 00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:35.260
  • GET THE OUTCOME YOU HOPE FOR,
  • 00:38:35.260 --> 00:38:37.110
  • OR YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
  • 00:38:37.110 --> 00:38:38.170
  • OUTCOME IS, CHRIST IS PRESENT.
  • 00:38:38.220 --> 00:38:41.220
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:38:41.220 --> 00:38:42.100
  • - SHEILA: HE IS THE REDEEMER,
  • 00:38:42.100 --> 00:38:43.070
  • WHEREVER YOU FIND YOURSELF.
  • 00:38:43.070 --> 00:38:44.150
  • - BIL: OKAY, NOW, I DIDN'T
  • 00:38:44.150 --> 00:38:45.150
  • KNOW IT WAS GONNA GET THIS
  • 00:38:45.150 --> 00:38:46.090
  • PERSONAL.
  • 00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:47.130
  • I LOVE IT.
  • 00:38:47.130 --> 00:38:47.240
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:38:49.290 --> 00:38:52.290
  • AND, UM...I DON'T TALK ABOUT
  • 00:38:52.290 --> 00:38:53.190
  • THIS OFTEN, BUT I WAKE UP EVERY
  • 00:38:53.190 --> 00:38:54.110
  • DAY IN PAIN.
  • 00:38:54.110 --> 00:38:54.230
  • - SHEILA: OH, GOSH...
  • 00:38:54.230 --> 00:38:57.140
  • - BIL: AND SO, I-- IT'S NOT
  • 00:38:57.140 --> 00:38:58.050
  • SOMETHING I REALLY TALK ABOUT
  • 00:38:58.050 --> 00:38:58.260
  • MUCH.
  • 00:38:58.260 --> 00:38:59.050
  • UM, BUT, IT'S ABOUT AN HOUR
  • 00:38:59.050 --> 00:39:00.070
  • EVERY MORNING FOR ME TO REALLY
  • 00:39:00.070 --> 00:39:01.150
  • START TO FUNCTION LIKE A NORMAL
  • 00:39:01.150 --> 00:39:02.170
  • GUY.
  • 00:39:02.170 --> 00:39:03.190
  • - SHEILA: WOW...
  • 00:39:03.190 --> 00:39:04.040
  • - BIL: AND SO-- BECAUSE OF MY
  • 00:39:04.040 --> 00:39:05.070
  • BACK.
  • 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:05.240
  • I'VE HAD TWO SURGERIES.
  • 00:39:05.240 --> 00:39:06.250
  • AND SO-- ANYWAYS, I DON'T WANNA
  • 00:39:06.250 --> 00:39:07.260
  • MAKE THIS ABOUT ME, BUT I WANNA
  • 00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:08.240
  • STOP, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S
  • 00:39:08.240 --> 00:39:09.260
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH
  • 00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:10.170
  • PHYSICAL PAIN.
  • 00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:13.030
  • - SHEILA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:14.090
  • - BIL: THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.
  • 00:39:15.100 --> 00:39:18.100
  • AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING
  • 00:39:18.100 --> 00:39:19.040
  • WHEN YOU'RE LIKE:
  • 00:39:19.040 --> 00:39:19.190
  • GOD, YOU SAY YOU'LL HEAL.
  • 00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:20.120
  • AND WE KNOW YOU'RE MY SAVIOR,
  • 00:39:20.120 --> 00:39:21.030
  • BUT, I JUST STILL HURT EVERY
  • 00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:24.040
  • DAY.
  • 00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:24.160
  • AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT ESSENTIALLY
  • 00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:25.080
  • ABIDING IN CHRIST AND ABIDING
  • 00:39:25.080 --> 00:39:26.040
  • IN YOU IN THOSE MOMENTS.
  • 00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:27.120
  • BUT I WANNA MENTION SOMETHING I
  • 00:39:27.120 --> 00:39:28.160
  • THINK'S REALLY-- AND I WANT YOU
  • 00:39:28.160 --> 00:39:29.080
  • TO TOUCH ON THIS.
  • 00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:30.020
  • I LOVE HOW YOU SAID, "I'M
  • 00:39:30.020 --> 00:39:31.120
  • SINGING AND I'M PRAYING WHILE
  • 00:39:31.120 --> 00:39:33.120
  • I'M GETTING THE SURGERY."
  • 00:39:33.120 --> 00:39:34.280
  • SO, SPIRITUAL IS PRACTICAL AND
  • 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.120
  • PRACTICAL IS SPIRITUAL.
  • 00:39:37.120 --> 00:39:38.280
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:39.120
  • - BIL: SO, YOU WENT DOWN DUAL
  • 00:39:39.120 --> 00:39:41.130
  • PATHS AT THE SAME TIME.
  • 00:39:41.130 --> 00:39:42.190
  • LET ME GET THIS FIXED, LET ME
  • 00:39:42.190 --> 00:39:44.000
  • GET THE HELP I CAN.
  • 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:44.250
  • BUT, GOD, I'M STILL TRUSTING
  • 00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:46.100
  • YOU TO TAKE ME TO THAT RIGHT
  • 00:39:46.100 --> 00:39:48.070
  • SPECIALIST, THAT RIGHT SURGEON,
  • 00:39:48.070 --> 00:39:49.110
  • THAT RIGHT COUNSELOR, THAT
  • 00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:51.000
  • RIGHT--
  • 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:51.190
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:39:51.190 --> 00:39:52.030
  • - BIL: --YOU KNOW, WHATEVER
  • 00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:52.250
  • THAT YOU'RE NEEDING -- THE
  • 00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:53.280
  • RIGHT MEDICATION, ALL THOSE
  • 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.180
  • THINGS.
  • 00:39:54.180 --> 00:39:55.020
  • WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FOR
  • 00:39:55.020 --> 00:39:56.050
  • SECOND?
  • 00:39:56.050 --> 00:39:56.170
  • 'CAUSE I THINK-- THAT'S MY
  • 00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:57.110
  • FAVORITE PART ABOUT THIS BOOK
  • 00:39:57.110 --> 00:39:58.020
  • IS JUST THE PRACTICAL SIDE.
  • 00:39:58.020 --> 00:39:58.290
  • 'CAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE JUST--
  • 00:39:58.290 --> 00:40:00.280
  • JUST, YOU KNOW, JUMP UP AND
  • 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.230
  • DOWN, SCREAM "HALLELUJAH!"
  • 00:40:02.230 --> 00:40:03.280
  • THREE TIMES, AND GOD'S GONNA
  • 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:04.190
  • HEAL YOU.
  • 00:40:04.190 --> 00:40:05.070
  • NO, NO.
  • 00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:05.180
  • NOT ALWAYS LIKE THAT.
  • 00:40:05.180 --> 00:40:06.230
  • I MEAN, WE'D ALL LIKE THAT.
  • 00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:08.020
  • I MEAN, WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT
  • 00:40:08.020 --> 00:40:08.240
  • IF THAT WAS IT?
  • 00:40:08.250 --> 00:40:11.250
  • BUT YOU'RE LIKE: BUT, LORD, I
  • 00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:12.160
  • STILL GO BACK TO A BAD
  • 00:40:12.160 --> 00:40:13.030
  • MARRIAGE.
  • 00:40:13.030 --> 00:40:13.140
  • I STILL GOTTA DEAL WITH MY
  • 00:40:13.140 --> 00:40:14.030
  • GRANDKID THAT'S DRIVING ME
  • 00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:15.030
  • CRAZY.
  • 00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.270
  • I STILL GOT A BOSS THAT'S--
  • 00:40:16.270 --> 00:40:17.170
  • I MEAN, RIGHT?
  • 00:40:17.170 --> 00:40:18.130
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THERE'S
  • 00:40:18.130 --> 00:40:19.150
  • STILL--
  • 00:40:19.150 --> 00:40:20.180
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:20.180 --> 00:40:21.040
  • LORD, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO
  • 00:40:21.040 --> 00:40:22.130
  • ANYTHING, BUT SOMETIMES, THE
  • 00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:23.160
  • PROCESS IS A LONG TIME.
  • 00:40:23.160 --> 00:40:25.000
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:25.200
  • - BIL: SOMETIMES, GOD LETS
  • 00:40:25.200 --> 00:40:27.060
  • PAUL KEEP A THORN IN HIS SIDE.
  • 00:40:27.060 --> 00:40:28.130
  • - SHEILA: YES.
  • 00:40:28.130 --> 00:40:28.270
  • - BIL: TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A
  • 00:40:28.270 --> 00:40:29.200
  • SECOND.
  • 00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:30.000
  • SO, YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE
  • 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:30.200
  • STILL DAILY DEALING WITH A
  • 00:40:30.200 --> 00:40:31.180
  • LOT OF THIS, BUT YET, YOU'RE
  • 00:40:31.180 --> 00:40:32.090
  • STILL-- YOU'RE ON TOP OF IT.
  • 00:40:32.090 --> 00:40:33.170
  • - SHEILA: THAT WAS WHY ONE OF
  • 00:40:33.170 --> 00:40:36.080
  • THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY
  • 00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:37.040
  • IMPORTANT FOR ME IN WRITING
  • 00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:37.240
  • THIS BOOK WAS I WANTED TO BE
  • 00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:38.220
  • VERY DAILY...
  • 00:40:38.220 --> 00:40:39.190
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:40:39.190 --> 00:40:40.020
  • - SHEILA: ...AND VERY DOABLE.
  • 00:40:40.020 --> 00:40:41.030
  • I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE SO LOFTY
  • 00:40:41.030 --> 00:40:42.110
  • ON A SHELF SO HIGH...
  • 00:40:42.110 --> 00:40:44.150
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:45.060
  • - SHEILA: ...THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:40:45.060 --> 00:40:45.280
  • COULDN'T REACH IT.
  • 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:46.270
  • IF SOMEBODY WAS ON THEIR KNEES,
  • 00:40:46.270 --> 00:40:48.010
  • I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO
  • 00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:49.060
  • GRASP HOLD OF THAT.
  • 00:40:49.060 --> 00:40:50.060
  • 'CAUSE I FIND IT FASCINATING.
  • 00:40:50.060 --> 00:40:51.150
  • YOU MENTION PAUL'S THORN IN THE
  • 00:40:51.150 --> 00:40:52.290
  • FLESH.
  • 00:40:52.290 --> 00:40:53.110
  • THREE CHAPTERS BEFORE THAT,
  • 00:40:53.110 --> 00:40:54.280
  • PAUL DESCRIBES AN EXPERIENCE HE
  • 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.250
  • HAD WHERE GOD TOOK HIM TO WHAT
  • 00:40:56.250 --> 00:40:58.260
  • PAUL DESCRIBES AS PARADISE.
  • 00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:00.130
  • - BIL: MMH.
  • 00:41:00.130 --> 00:41:00.270
  • - SHEILA: AND THAT WORD IS
  • 00:41:00.270 --> 00:41:02.090
  • TRANSLATED AS-- IT WAS WHEN A
  • 00:41:02.090 --> 00:41:03.160
  • KING WOULD TAKE A FAVORITE
  • 00:41:03.160 --> 00:41:05.100
  • SUBJECT FOR A WALK INSIDE A
  • 00:41:05.100 --> 00:41:06.240
  • WALLED GARDEN.
  • 00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:09.170
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:10.000
  • - SHEILA: IT WAS A HUGE
  • 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:10.180
  • PRIVILEGE.
  • 00:41:10.180 --> 00:41:10.290
  • SO, IT'S LIKE GOD GAVE PAUL
  • 00:41:10.290 --> 00:41:13.210
  • THIS PRIVATE WALK WHERE HE
  • 00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:14.270
  • SHOWED HIM THINGS AND TOLD HIM
  • 00:41:14.270 --> 00:41:17.090
  • THINGS THAT HE WAS NOT ALLOWED
  • 00:41:17.090 --> 00:41:18.010
  • TO TELL US.
  • 00:41:18.010 --> 00:41:18.160
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:41:18.160 --> 00:41:19.240
  • - SHEILA: SO, HE SAW ALL OF
  • 00:41:19.240 --> 00:41:20.150
  • THAT, BUT STILL, THEN, HE SAYS,
  • 00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:21.090
  • THREE TIMES, "I BEGGED GOD,
  • 00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:23.030
  • 'TAKE THIS AWAY."
  • 00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:25.190
  • BUT GOD SAID TO HIM, "NO, PAUL,
  • 00:41:25.190 --> 00:41:26.280
  • HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO
  • 00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:27.240
  • UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:41:27.240 --> 00:41:28.130
  • MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR
  • 00:41:28.130 --> 00:41:29.170
  • YOU."
  • 00:41:29.170 --> 00:41:32.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:41:32.150 --> 00:41:33.070
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:41:33.070 --> 00:41:34.000
  • - SHEILA: "MY GRACE..."
  • 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:34.210
  • - BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:41:34.210 --> 00:41:35.130
  • - SHEILA: BUT THEN, HE GOES ON
  • 00:41:35.130 --> 00:41:36.050
  • TO SAY, "BECAUSE MY STRENGTH IS
  • 00:41:36.050 --> 00:41:37.020
  • MADE PERFECT IN YOUR WEAKNESS."
  • 00:41:37.100 --> 00:41:40.100
  • NOT WHEN YOU HAVE A BAD DAY.
  • 00:41:40.100 --> 00:41:41.210
  • NOT JUST ON THE ODD OCCASION.
  • 00:41:42.020 --> 00:41:45.020
  • "MY STRENGTH IS MADE PERFECT IN
  • 00:41:45.020 --> 00:41:46.120
  • YOUR WEAKNESS."
  • 00:41:46.120 --> 00:41:48.160
  • YOU KNOW, I WAS RECENTLY IN
  • 00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:49.230
  • CAMBODIA.
  • 00:41:49.230 --> 00:41:51.050
  • WE WERE WORKING ON SEX
  • 00:41:51.050 --> 00:41:52.030
  • TRAFFICKING, GETTING GIRLS AND
  • 00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:53.030
  • BOYS TO SAFE PLACES.
  • 00:41:53.030 --> 00:41:55.100
  • AND I NOTICED, IN THIS SLUM
  • 00:41:55.100 --> 00:41:56.200
  • AREA, WE WERE RIGHT BESIDE A
  • 00:41:56.200 --> 00:41:57.110
  • HUGE BUDDHIST TEMPLE, COVERED
  • 00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:58.280
  • IN GOLD DOMES.
  • 00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.220
  • AND I ASKED MY TRANSLATOR, I
  • 00:42:00.220 --> 00:42:02.080
  • SAID: "WOULD YOU COME WITH ME?
  • 00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:03.220
  • I'D LIKE TO TALK TO ONE OF THE
  • 00:42:03.220 --> 00:42:04.140
  • PRIESTS."
  • 00:42:04.140 --> 00:42:05.070
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:42:05.070 --> 00:42:05.210
  • - SHEILA: AND I SAID TO HIM,
  • 00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:07.010
  • "CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME: DO YOU
  • 00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:08.200
  • EVER THINK OF TAKING SOME OF
  • 00:42:08.200 --> 00:42:09.210
  • THIS MONEY AND PERHAPS SHARING
  • 00:42:09.210 --> 00:42:11.050
  • IT WITH THE POOR WHO ARE LIVING
  • 00:42:11.050 --> 00:42:12.190
  • ON YOUR DOORSTEP?"
  • 00:42:12.190 --> 00:42:14.090
  • AND HE SAID: "NO, THE POOR DO
  • 00:42:14.090 --> 00:42:15.000
  • NOT DESERVE OUR HELP.
  • 00:42:17.080 --> 00:42:20.080
  • IF THEY WILL TAKE THE LITTLE
  • 00:42:20.080 --> 00:42:20.290
  • THEY HAVE AND GIVE IT TO THE
  • 00:42:20.290 --> 00:42:21.200
  • PRIESTS, THEN THEY MAY BE
  • 00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:22.090
  • REINCARNATED INTO A BETTER
  • 00:42:22.090 --> 00:42:22.280
  • PLACE NEXT TIME."
  • 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.050
  • - BIL: UGH!
  • 00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:24.180
  • - SHEILA: "IT'S CALLED KARMA."
  • 00:42:24.180 --> 00:42:26.120
  • THE GRACE OF GOD IS THE
  • 00:42:26.120 --> 00:42:28.060
  • ANTITHESIS OF KARMA: WE GET
  • 00:42:28.060 --> 00:42:29.230
  • WHAT WE DON'T DESERVE.
  • 00:42:29.230 --> 00:42:32.190
  • GOD'S GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR
  • 00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:33.170
  • US--
  • 00:42:33.170 --> 00:42:34.140
  • - BIL: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:42:34.140 --> 00:42:35.160
  • - SHEILA: --WHEN WE WILL REST
  • 00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:36.070
  • ON HIM.
  • 00:42:36.070 --> 00:42:36.170
  • - BIL: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:42:36.170 --> 00:42:37.030
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:42:37.030 --> 00:42:37.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:38.100
  • - SHEILA: IT'S AMAZING!
  • 00:42:38.100 --> 00:42:39.100
  • - BIL: IT IS AMAZING.
  • 00:42:39.100 --> 00:42:39.270
  • - SHEILA: SOME RELIGIONS ASK
  • 00:42:39.270 --> 00:42:40.190
  • THEIR BELIEVERS TO BLEED FOR
  • 00:42:40.190 --> 00:42:41.210
  • THEM.
  • 00:42:41.210 --> 00:42:42.120
  • WE'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE A
  • 00:42:42.120 --> 00:42:44.080
  • GOD WHO BLED FOR US.
  • 00:42:44.080 --> 00:42:45.200
  • - BIL: WOW...
  • 00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:46.050
  • MY GOODNESS, THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:42:46.050 --> 00:42:48.170
  • AGAIN, I WANNA TAKE NOTES.
  • 00:42:48.170 --> 00:42:49.220
  • OKAY, SO, I'M JUST SOAKIN' THIS
  • 00:42:49.220 --> 00:42:51.280
  • IN.
  • 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:52.240
  • SHEILA, THIS IS JUST BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:53.160
  • I LOVE THE PRACTICAL AND I LOVE
  • 00:42:53.160 --> 00:42:54.110
  • THE SPIRITUAL SIDE TO THIS,
  • 00:42:54.110 --> 00:42:55.010
  • TOO.
  • 00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:56.010
  • YOU'RE JUST LAYERING THIS SO
  • 00:42:56.010 --> 00:42:57.000
  • BEAUTIFULLY.
  • 00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:58.250
  • IN THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A
  • 00:42:58.250 --> 00:43:00.180
  • LOT-- YOU HAVE A LOT OF
  • 00:43:00.180 --> 00:43:01.140
  • YOU TALK ABOUT CELEBRATING THE
  • 00:43:02.230 --> 00:43:03.190
  • SCARS, TATTOOS OF TRIUMPH, BUT,
  • 00:43:03.190 --> 00:43:04.160
  • ALSO, YOU TALK ABOUT MAKING A
  • 00:43:04.160 --> 00:43:05.220
  • DECISION.
  • 00:43:05.220 --> 00:43:07.240
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:43:07.240 --> 00:43:09.280
  • - BIL: UNPACK THAT FOR ME.
  • 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.070
  • - SHEILA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:43:11.070 --> 00:43:12.150
  • - BIL: WHEN DID THAT
  • 00:43:12.150 --> 00:43:13.020
  • DECISION-- WHEN DID THE
  • 00:43:13.020 --> 00:43:14.140
  • DECISION NOT JUST TO GO TO GOD
  • 00:43:14.140 --> 00:43:16.100
  • THAT GOD WOULD HELP ME, BUT
  • 00:43:16.100 --> 00:43:17.250
  • WHEN DID YOU SAY, "I'M IN
  • 00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:19.070
  • PROCESS AND I'M DECIDING TO GO
  • 00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:20.090
  • DOWN THIS JOURNEY"?
  • 00:43:20.090 --> 00:43:21.220
  • WHEN DID THAT REALLY BEGIN FOR
  • 00:43:21.220 --> 00:43:22.140
  • YOU?
  • 00:43:22.140 --> 00:43:23.270
  • - SHEILA: WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:43:23.270 --> 00:43:24.190
  • INTERESTING.
  • 00:43:24.190 --> 00:43:25.230
  • I WAS MAYBE...SIX MONTHS TO A
  • 00:43:25.230 --> 00:43:27.110
  • YEAR OUTSIDE-- OUT OF THE
  • 00:43:27.110 --> 00:43:28.000
  • HOSPITAL.
  • 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:28.290
  • - BIL: OKAY.
  • 00:43:28.290 --> 00:43:29.140
  • - SHEILA: AND I WAS SPEAKING
  • 00:43:29.140 --> 00:43:30.120
  • AT A CHURCH IN SEATTLE,
  • 00:43:30.120 --> 00:43:31.060
  • WASHINGTON.
  • 00:43:31.060 --> 00:43:33.280
  • AND THE PASTOR SAID: "MY WIFE
  • 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.190
  • IS NOT GONNA COME, 'CAUSE SHE
  • 00:43:34.190 --> 00:43:35.230
  • STRUGGLES WITH DEPRESSION AND
  • 00:43:35.230 --> 00:43:37.000
  • SHE TAKES MEDICATION, BUT SHE
  • 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.160
  • DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY IN THE
  • 00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:39.200
  • CHURCH TO KNOW, 'CAUSE SHE
  • 00:43:39.200 --> 00:43:40.170
  • THINKS IT WILL HARM MY
  • 00:43:40.170 --> 00:43:41.270
  • MINISTRY.
  • 00:43:41.270 --> 00:43:42.090
  • WOULD YOU MEET WITH HER
  • 00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:43.120
  • PRIVATELY?"
  • 00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:43.260
  • I SAID, "IF SHE'S WILLING TO,
  • 00:43:43.260 --> 00:43:45.120
  • ABSOLUTELY."
  • 00:43:45.120 --> 00:43:47.020
  • SO, I ASKED FOR A SMALL ROOM AT
  • 00:43:47.020 --> 00:43:48.060
  • THE HOTEL.
  • 00:43:48.060 --> 00:43:49.010
  • AND WHEN SHE CAME IN, SHE
  • 00:43:49.010 --> 00:43:50.080
  • WOULDN'T MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH
  • 00:43:50.080 --> 00:43:51.000
  • ME.
  • 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:51.160
  • AND I SAID TO HER, "YOU DON'T
  • 00:43:51.160 --> 00:43:52.180
  • HAVE TO TELL ME A THING ABOUT
  • 00:43:52.180 --> 00:43:53.180
  • YOUR LIFE, BUT WOULD YOU LET ME
  • 00:43:53.180 --> 00:43:55.090
  • TELL YOU SOMETHING?"
  • 00:43:55.090 --> 00:43:56.150
  • AND I SHARE WITH HER THIS
  • 00:43:56.150 --> 00:43:57.040
  • JOURNEY.
  • 00:43:57.040 --> 00:43:58.090
  • AND AFTER AN HOUR, WE WERE BOTH
  • 00:43:58.090 --> 00:43:59.210
  • ON OUR KNEES, TEARS POURING
  • 00:43:59.210 --> 00:44:02.050
  • DOWN OUR FACE, AT THE THRONE OF
  • 00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:03.220
  • GRACE AND MERCY.
  • 00:44:03.220 --> 00:44:05.050
  • AND WHEN I WATCHED THAT WOMAN
  • 00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:06.140
  • RUN INTO THE ARMS OF HER
  • 00:44:06.140 --> 00:44:08.070
  • HUSBAND, I THOUGHT: LORD, I
  • 00:44:08.070 --> 00:44:09.060
  • WOULD DO ALL OF THAT AGAIN FOR
  • 00:44:09.060 --> 00:44:10.270
  • THAT ONE WOMAN.
  • 00:44:10.270 --> 00:44:11.190
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:12.230
  • - SHEILA: AND AT THAT POINT, I
  • 00:44:12.230 --> 00:44:13.200
  • SAID, "LORD, I AM ALL IN TILL
  • 00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:15.050
  • IT'S ALL OVER -- 24/7 ON
  • 00:44:15.050 --> 00:44:18.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:19.230 --> 00:44:20.040
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:20.170
  • THAT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:21.010
  • YOU KNOW, IT CAN-- IT HAPPENS
  • 00:44:21.010 --> 00:44:23.160
  • TO EVERYONE.
  • 00:44:23.180 --> 00:44:26.180
  • EVERYONE CAN GET STUCK.
  • 00:44:26.180 --> 00:44:27.060
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:44:27.060 --> 00:44:27.260
  • - BIL: AND SO, WHEN YOU'RE
  • 00:44:27.260 --> 00:44:30.020
  • STUCK, OFTENTIMES, WE NEED AN
  • 00:44:30.020 --> 00:44:31.030
  • OUTSIDE SOURCE FROM SOMEONE
  • 00:44:31.030 --> 00:44:32.230
  • WITH SOME WISDOM WHO'S BEEN
  • 00:44:32.230 --> 00:44:34.020
  • DOWN THAT ROAD, RIGHT?
  • 00:44:34.020 --> 00:44:35.160
  • ALCOHOLICS ARE BEST HELPED BY A
  • 00:44:35.160 --> 00:44:37.180
  • FORMER...ALCOHOLIC, RIGHT?
  • 00:44:37.180 --> 00:44:39.280
  • SO, YOU SAY: I'M STUCK AND I
  • 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.010
  • FEEL THIS SHAME, AND GUILT, AND
  • 00:44:41.010 --> 00:44:41.270
  • A STRUGGLE.
  • 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.000
  • AND I FEEL BROKEN.
  • 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.100
  • WHY DON'T YOU GET SOME HELP
  • 00:44:49.220 --> 00:44:50.120
  • FROM SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN RIGHT
  • 00:44:50.120 --> 00:44:52.000
  • WHERE YOU ARE, AND HAS GOTTEN
  • 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.030
  • THROUGH THIS, AND KNOWS GOD'S
  • 00:44:53.030 --> 00:44:55.130
  • WORD?
  • 00:44:55.130 --> 00:44:56.040
  • YOU'RE NOT-- "WELL, NO, I'M NOT
  • 00:44:56.040 --> 00:44:56.260
  • GONNA TRUST IN ALL THAT PSYCHO
  • 00:44:56.260 --> 00:44:57.180
  • STUFF.
  • 00:44:57.180 --> 00:44:57.270
  • I'M GONNA-- I WANT JUST THE
  • 00:44:57.270 --> 00:44:58.170
  • WORD OF GOD."
  • 00:44:58.170 --> 00:44:59.000
  • NO, WHAT IF I WERE TO TELL YOU
  • 00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.210
  • IT'S BOTH?
  • 00:44:59.210 --> 00:45:00.280
  • WHAT IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT
  • 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:01.270
  • YOU NEED TO GET GODLY WISDOM
  • 00:45:01.270 --> 00:45:03.120
  • THAT'S BASED UPON THE WORD OF
  • 00:45:03.120 --> 00:45:05.140
  • GOD, GET THE PHYSICAL HELP YOU
  • 00:45:05.140 --> 00:45:06.160
  • NEED, TOO?
  • 00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:08.070
  • IT'S NOT ONE OR THE OTHER; IT'S
  • 00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:08.290
  • BOTH.
  • 00:45:08.290 --> 00:45:09.100
  • - SHEILA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:45:09.100 --> 00:45:10.050
  • - BIL: IT'S LIKE I TELL PEOPLE
  • 00:45:10.050 --> 00:45:10.270
  • -- YOU KNOW, COME TO CHURCH, GO
  • 00:45:10.270 --> 00:45:11.190
  • TO THE 12-STEP, TOO.
  • 00:45:11.190 --> 00:45:14.090
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:45:14.090 --> 00:45:14.210
  • - SHEILA: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:45:14.210 --> 00:45:15.090
  • - BIL: GO TO THE BOTH.
  • 00:45:15.090 --> 00:45:15.270
  • - SHEILA: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:45:15.270 --> 00:45:16.150
  • - BIL: DON'T DO ONE OR THE
  • 00:45:16.150 --> 00:45:17.050
  • OTHER.
  • 00:45:17.050 --> 00:45:17.140
  • GO TO THE BOTH.
  • 00:45:17.140 --> 00:45:17.280
  • TAKE YOUR MEDICINE AND TRUST
  • 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.180
  • GOD.
  • 00:45:18.180 --> 00:45:18.260
  • IT'S NOT OR THE OTHER.
  • 00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:19.130
  • I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, RIGHT
  • 00:45:19.130 --> 00:45:20.170
  • NOW.
  • 00:45:20.170 --> 00:45:20.280
  • I WANT YOU TO PICK UP THIS
  • 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:21.180
  • BOOK.
  • 00:45:21.180 --> 00:45:21.270
  • AND SO, HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU
  • 00:45:21.270 --> 00:45:22.190
  • TO DO: I WANT YOU TO CALL THE
  • 00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:23.100
  • NUMBER ON THAT SCREEN, RIGHT
  • 00:45:23.100 --> 00:45:24.010
  • NOW.
  • 00:45:24.010 --> 00:45:24.140
  • HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO:
  • 00:45:24.140 --> 00:45:25.130
  • FOR A $60 GIFT OR MORE TO TBN,
  • 00:45:25.130 --> 00:45:26.180
  • TO THE MINISTRY HERE, YOU'RE
  • 00:45:26.180 --> 00:45:28.150
  • GONNA GET TWO AMAZING BOOKS.
  • 00:45:28.150 --> 00:45:29.200
  • DR. DAVID JEREMIAH'S WRITTEN
  • 00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:31.000
  • THIS GREAT BOOK CALLED
  • 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.050
  • "OVERCOMER: 8 WAYS TO LIVE A
  • 00:45:32.050 --> 00:45:33.200
  • LIFE OF UNSTOPPABLE STRENGTH."
  • 00:45:33.200 --> 00:45:35.000
  • HE'S GOT A PLAN FOR EIGHT, TOO.
  • 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:36.080
  • AND SO DOES SHEILA WALSH HAVE A
  • 00:45:36.080 --> 00:45:37.240
  • GREAT PLAN FOR YOU, AS WELL.
  • 00:45:37.240 --> 00:45:39.280
  • "IT'S OKAY TO NOT BE OKAY."
  • 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.080
  • MAKE SURE THAT YOU PICK THIS
  • 00:45:42.080 --> 00:45:43.130
  • UP, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:43.260
  • "MOVING FORWARD ONE DAY AT A
  • 00:45:43.260 --> 00:45:45.080
  • TIME."
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  • WHEN YOU FEEL OVERWHELMED, YOU
  • 00:45:45.260 --> 00:45:47.020
  • NEED TO KNOW: WHAT DO I DO
  • 00:45:47.020 --> 00:45:48.080
  • TODAY?
  • 00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:48.220
  • THIS IS WHAT YOU DO, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:45:48.220 --> 00:45:50.020
  • YOU PICK UP THE PHONE, CALL
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  • TODAY.
  • 00:45:50.220 --> 00:45:51.230
  • THIS IS GONNA HELP TAKE THE
  • 00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:53.050
  • GOSPEL AND THE TRUTH OF CHRIST
  • 00:45:53.050 --> 00:45:54.170
  • FURTHER, ANYWAYS, SO IT'S
  • 00:45:54.170 --> 00:45:55.060
  • ALWAYS GOING FOR GOOD, ANYWAYS.
  • 00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:57.140
  • PICK UP THESE BOOKS, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:45:57.140 --> 00:45:58.060
  • GET YOUR COPY.
  • 00:45:58.060 --> 00:46:00.170
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  • 00:46:00.170 --> 00:46:03.150
  • THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE STEPS
  • 00:46:03.150 --> 00:46:04.050
  • YOU NEED TO GET THROUGH WHAT
  • 00:46:04.050 --> 00:46:06.070
  • YOU ARE FACING, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:46:06.070 --> 00:46:06.260
  • SHEILA, WE ALL FACE
  • 00:46:06.260 --> 00:46:08.290
  • OVERWHELMING ODDS, OVERWHELMING
  • 00:46:08.290 --> 00:46:09.260
  • STRUGGLES.
  • 00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:11.260
  • I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO
  • 00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:12.220
  • DOESN'T HAVE A STORY.
  • 00:46:12.220 --> 00:46:14.030
  • "OH, YOU DON'T KNOW THE PAIN
  • 00:46:14.030 --> 00:46:14.230
  • I'M GOING THROUGH."
  • 00:46:14.230 --> 00:46:15.130
  • WE ALL HAVE ONE OF THOSE
  • 00:46:15.130 --> 00:46:16.010
  • STORIES.
  • 00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:16.140
  • SO, WHEN YOU'RE AT THAT MOMENT
  • 00:46:16.140 --> 00:46:17.170
  • OF BEING BROKEN APART, YOU'RE
  • 00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:20.260
  • STRUGGLING, WHAT KIND OF
  • 00:46:20.260 --> 00:46:23.110
  • CONVERSATION ARE YOU HAVING
  • 00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:24.190
  • WITH GOD IN THAT MOMENT?
  • 00:46:24.190 --> 00:46:25.090
  • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR
  • 00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:26.040
  • YOU?
  • 00:46:26.040 --> 00:46:26.290
  • - SHEILA: WOW...
  • 00:46:26.290 --> 00:46:28.170
  • I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
  • 00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:31.190
  • REAL TURNING POINTS FOR ME -- I
  • 00:46:31.190 --> 00:46:33.230
  • LOOK BACK TO WHEN I WAS-- AFTER
  • 00:46:33.230 --> 00:46:35.170
  • I'D BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL FOR
  • 00:46:35.170 --> 00:46:36.280
  • MAYBE THREE WEEKS, MY DOCTOR
  • 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.190
  • SAID: "I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A
  • 00:46:37.190 --> 00:46:38.120
  • TRIP OUTSIDE THE HOSPITAL.
  • 00:46:38.120 --> 00:46:39.200
  • YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO A
  • 00:46:39.200 --> 00:46:40.090
  • MOVIE, YOU CAN GO TO A MALL."
  • 00:46:40.090 --> 00:46:41.150
  • AND I SAID: "NO, I WOULD JUST
  • 00:46:41.150 --> 00:46:42.060
  • LIKE TO GO TO CHURCH.
  • 00:46:42.060 --> 00:46:42.230
  • I DON'T CARE WHICH
  • 00:46:42.230 --> 00:46:43.280
  • DENOMINATION, AS LONG AS IT'S A
  • 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.060
  • AND I SAT IN THE VERY BACK
  • 00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:48.070
  • ROW...
  • 00:46:48.070 --> 00:46:48.220
  • - BIL: YEAH.
  • 00:46:48.220 --> 00:46:49.050
  • - SHEILA: ...LISTENING TO THE
  • 00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:49.260
  • WORDS AND FEELING LOST.
  • 00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:50.260
  • BUT THE PASTOR, AT THE END OF
  • 00:46:50.260 --> 00:46:53.020
  • HIS MESSAGE, HE SAID: "SOME OF
  • 00:46:53.020 --> 00:46:54.060
  • YOU IN HERE FEEL AS IF YOU'RE
  • 00:46:54.060 --> 00:46:55.200
  • DEAD INSIDE.
  • 00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:56.140
  • YOU CAN ALMOST HEAR THEM BEGIN
  • 00:46:56.140 --> 00:46:58.050
  • TO HEAP THE DIRT ON TOP OF
  • 00:46:58.050 --> 00:46:59.180
  • YOU."
  • 00:46:59.180 --> 00:47:00.050
  • - BIL: MMH.
  • 00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:00.240
  • - SHEILA: BUT HE SAID: "I WANT
  • 00:47:00.240 --> 00:47:01.160
  • YOU TO KNOW JESUS IS HERE.
  • 00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:03.140
  • AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET
  • 00:47:03.140 --> 00:47:04.100
  • YOURSELF OUT OF THAT HOLE.
  • 00:47:04.100 --> 00:47:05.160
  • YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO CALL ON THE
  • 00:47:06.060 --> 00:47:09.060
  • NAME OF THE LORD AND HE WILL
  • 00:47:09.060 --> 00:47:09.260
  • REACH IN AND GRAB
  • 00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:11.170
  • HOLD OF YOU."
  • 00:47:11.170 --> 00:47:12.040
  • - BIL: SO GOOD.
  • 00:47:12.040 --> 00:47:12.190
  • - SHEILA: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
  • 00:47:12.190 --> 00:47:13.180
  • THE TRADITIONS AT THAT CHURCH
  • 00:47:13.180 --> 00:47:14.220
  • WERE, BUT AT THE END OF THAT
  • 00:47:14.220 --> 00:47:15.250
  • SERVICE, I RAN TO THE FRONT AND
  • 00:47:15.250 --> 00:47:17.140
  • I LAY FACE DOWN IN FRONT OF THE
  • 00:47:17.140 --> 00:47:19.120
  • CROSS.
  • 00:47:19.120 --> 00:47:19.290
  • AND A HYMN THAT MY GRANDMOTHER
  • 00:47:19.290 --> 00:47:22.120
  • USED TO SING TO ME, JUST AS A
  • 00:47:22.120 --> 00:47:23.090
  • WEE GIRL, CAME BACK TO ME.
  • 00:47:23.090 --> 00:47:24.200
  • BUT I UNDERSTOOD THEM...FOR THE
  • 00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:25.220
  • FIRST TIME.
  • 00:47:25.220 --> 00:47:26.240
  • "ROCK OF AGES..."
  • 00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:29.000
  • - BIL: MMH.
  • 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:29.150
  • - SHEILA: "...CLEFT FOR ME,
  • 00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:30.220
  • LET ME HIDE MYSELF IN THEE..."
  • 00:47:30.220 --> 00:47:33.010
  • BUT THESE TWO LINES:
  • 00:47:33.010 --> 00:47:34.110
  • "NOTHING IN MY HANDS I BRING,
  • 00:47:34.110 --> 00:47:36.160
  • SIMPLY TO THY CROSS I CLING."
  • 00:47:36.250 --> 00:47:39.250
  • - BIL: WOW.
  • 00:47:39.250 --> 00:47:40.090
  • - SHEILA: AND I FINALLY GOT
  • 00:47:40.090 --> 00:47:41.060
  • IT: I'M NOT THE GOOD NEWS;
  • 00:47:41.060 --> 00:47:41.290
  • JESUS IS.
  • 00:47:41.290 --> 00:47:43.120
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:47:43.120 --> 00:47:44.240
  • WOW.
  • 00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:45.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:45.190 --> 00:47:46.060
  • THAT'S SO GOOD!
  • 00:47:46.060 --> 00:47:46.200
  • MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:48.030
  • OKAY, I-- I WANNA JUST
  • 00:47:48.030 --> 00:47:50.050
  • CHALLENGE YOU GUYS THAT ARE
  • 00:47:50.050 --> 00:47:52.020
  • WATCHING, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:47:52.020 --> 00:47:54.040
  • MAYBE THIS IS MAKIN' SENSE TO
  • 00:47:54.040 --> 00:47:54.250
  • YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME.
  • 00:47:54.250 --> 00:47:55.160
  • MAYBE YOU TURNED OVER TO THIS
  • 00:47:55.160 --> 00:47:56.260
  • CHANNEL TO ASK THE QUESTION:
  • 00:47:56.260 --> 00:47:58.150
  • "IS THIS REAL?
  • 00:47:58.150 --> 00:47:59.100
  • IS THIS REALLY REAL OR NOT?
  • 00:47:59.100 --> 00:48:02.000
  • I DON'T KNOW...I DON'T KNOW IF
  • 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.090
  • I CAN BUY ALL THIS.
  • 00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:04.040
  • MAYBE-- MAYBE YOU WENT TO
  • 00:48:04.040 --> 00:48:06.130
  • CHURCH GROWING UP, OR MAYBE
  • 00:48:06.130 --> 00:48:07.110
  • YOU HAD A, YOU KNOW, AN
  • 00:48:07.110 --> 00:48:08.090
  • OVER-RELIGIOUS AUNT -- RIGHT?
  • 00:48:08.090 --> 00:48:09.290
  • THAT JUST KIND OF...RUBBED
  • 00:48:09.290 --> 00:48:12.080
  • YOU THE WRONG WAY.
  • 00:48:12.080 --> 00:48:12.240
  • OR, MAYBE YOU SAW A PREACHER
  • 00:48:12.240 --> 00:48:13.150
  • THAT YOU JUST WERE OFFENDED BY
  • 00:48:13.150 --> 00:48:14.290
  • AND YOU THOUGHT, "THAT'S JUST
  • 00:48:14.290 --> 00:48:15.200
  • NOT REAL."
  • 00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:17.130
  • IF IT'S NOT REAL, WHY IS THIS
  • 00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:18.200
  • MAKIN' SENSE TO YOU, NOW?
  • 00:48:18.200 --> 00:48:19.180
  • WHY IS THIS SUDDENLY CONNECTING
  • 00:48:19.180 --> 00:48:21.090
  • TO YOU?
  • 00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:23.160
  • COULD IT BE THAT THERE REALLY
  • 00:48:23.160 --> 00:48:24.070
  • IS A GOD WHO LOVES YOU...
  • 00:48:24.070 --> 00:48:25.090
  • WHO DEEPLY LOVES YOU
  • 00:48:25.090 --> 00:48:27.170
  • AND WANTS TO TOUCH YOUR
  • 00:48:27.170 --> 00:48:28.250
  • LIFE, RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:48:28.250 --> 00:48:30.000
  • THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS
  • 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:30.290
  • CONNECTING WITH YOU.
  • 00:48:30.290 --> 00:48:31.160
  • 'CAUSE THAT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:48:31.160 --> 00:48:33.200
  • SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO YOU.
  • 00:48:33.200 --> 00:48:34.150
  • AND I WANNA GIVE YOU AN
  • 00:48:34.150 --> 00:48:35.150
  • OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT NOW, TO GIVE
  • 00:48:35.150 --> 00:48:36.070
  • YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST.
  • 00:48:36.070 --> 00:48:37.160
  • RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN PRAY THIS
  • 00:48:37.160 --> 00:48:39.180
  • PRAYER WITH ME, AND YOU CAN
  • 00:48:39.180 --> 00:48:40.290
  • RECEIVE CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND
  • 00:48:40.290 --> 00:48:41.210
  • YOUR SAVIOR.
  • 00:48:42.210 --> 00:48:45.210
  • JUST BOW YOUR HEAD, RIGHT WHERE
  • 00:48:45.210 --> 00:48:46.130
  • YOU ARE.
  • 00:48:46.130 --> 00:48:46.290
  • LIVING ROOM -- THAT'S FINE.
  • 00:48:46.290 --> 00:48:47.190
  • MAYBE YOU'RE WATCHING ON THE
  • 00:48:47.190 --> 00:48:48.090
  • APP.
  • 00:48:48.090 --> 00:48:48.180
  • THAT'S FINE.
  • 00:48:48.180 --> 00:48:49.190
  • AND YOU JUST TRUST YOUR LIFE IN
  • 00:48:49.190 --> 00:48:50.110
  • CHRIST'S HANDS.
  • 00:48:50.110 --> 00:48:51.150
  • SCRIPTURE SAYS ANYONE WHO CALLS
  • 00:48:51.150 --> 00:48:53.020
  • ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE
  • 00:48:53.020 --> 00:48:54.120
  • SAVED.
  • 00:48:54.120 --> 00:48:55.190
  • DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO DO IT
  • 00:48:55.190 --> 00:48:56.140
  • PERFECT OR HAVE THE RIGHT
  • 00:48:56.140 --> 00:48:57.240
  • WORDS.
  • 00:48:57.240 --> 00:48:58.100
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN YOUR
  • 00:48:58.100 --> 00:48:59.150
  • LIFE UP.
  • 00:48:59.150 --> 00:48:59.290
  • YOU COME TO CHRIST, JUST AS YOU
  • 00:48:59.290 --> 00:49:01.000
  • ARE.
  • 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.180
  • HE LOVES YOU ENOUGH TO MEET
  • 00:49:02.180 --> 00:49:04.000
  • YOU, RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.
  • 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.150
  • YOU CAN RECEIVE CHRIST, RIGHT
  • 00:49:05.150 --> 00:49:06.120
  • NOW.
  • 00:49:06.120 --> 00:49:07.110
  • YOU SEE, GOD SENT HIS SON,
  • 00:49:07.110 --> 00:49:08.140
  • JESUS, TO DIE FOR YOU.
  • 00:49:08.140 --> 00:49:09.010
  • THEN, HE ROSE AGAIN FROM THE
  • 00:49:09.010 --> 00:49:10.250
  • GRAVE, PROVING THAT HE'S GOD
  • 00:49:10.250 --> 00:49:12.200
  • AND NOW YOU CAN RECEIVE HIM.
  • 00:49:12.200 --> 00:49:14.120
  • PRAY THIS PRAYER WITH ME.
  • 00:49:14.120 --> 00:49:15.130
  • YOU CAN JUST SAY:
  • 00:49:15.130 --> 00:49:16.000
  • DEAR JESUS, I REALIZE I NEED
  • 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:16.200
  • YOU.
  • 00:49:16.200 --> 00:49:19.110
  • I BELIEVE YOU DIED ON THE
  • 00:49:19.110 --> 00:49:21.220
  • CROSS FOR ME.
  • 00:49:21.220 --> 00:49:22.250
  • YOU PAID THE PRICE FOR MY SINS.
  • 00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:25.260
  • AND I BELIEVE YOU ROSE AGAIN.
  • 00:49:25.260 --> 00:49:28.220
  • I'D ASK YOU TO COME INTO MY
  • 00:49:28.220 --> 00:49:30.240
  • HEART, BE MY LORD, AND BE MY
  • 00:49:30.240 --> 00:49:33.100
  • SAVIOR.
  • 00:49:33.100 --> 00:49:36.020
  • I REPENT OF MY SINS, I PUT YOU
  • 00:49:36.020 --> 00:49:37.100
  • IN FIRST PLACE.
  • 00:49:37.100 --> 00:49:39.150
  • THANK YOU, JESUS, FOR SAVING
  • 00:49:39.150 --> 00:49:40.180
  • ME.
  • 00:49:40.180 --> 00:49:42.270
  • IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
  • 00:49:42.270 --> 00:49:45.110
  • ISN'T GOD GOOD?
  • 00:49:45.120 --> 00:49:48.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:49:48.120 --> 00:49:49.200
  • HIS WORD IS SO TRUE.
  • 00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:50.060
  • IT REALLY IS.
  • 00:49:50.060 --> 00:49:51.130
  • LISTEN, IF YOU ARE HURTING
  • 00:49:51.130 --> 00:49:54.040
  • TODAY, YOU JUST NEED SOME HELP,
  • 00:49:54.040 --> 00:49:55.160
  • YOU JUST NEED SOME
  • 00:49:55.160 --> 00:49:56.020
  • ENCOURAGEMENT, I WANNA
  • 00:49:56.020 --> 00:49:56.260
  • ENCOURAGE YOU: YOU TURNED TO
  • 00:49:56.260 --> 00:49:58.110
  • THE RIGHT CHANNEL.
  • 00:49:58.110 --> 00:49:59.110
  • AND, LISTEN, EVEN WHEN THIS
  • 00:49:59.110 --> 00:50:00.230
  • PROGRAM IS DONE, DON'T TURN
  • 00:50:00.230 --> 00:50:01.160
  • THAT CHANNEL.
  • 00:50:01.160 --> 00:50:01.290
  • THIS NEED TO BECOME HABIT FOR
  • 00:50:01.290 --> 00:50:03.000
  • YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTIN' FULL
  • 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.060
  • OF THE WORD OF GOD EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:50:04.060 --> 00:50:06.040
  • HOUR.
  • 00:50:06.040 --> 00:50:06.260
  • AND SO, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:50:06.260 --> 00:50:08.030
  • JUST TO STAY WITH US, MAKE THIS
  • 00:50:08.030 --> 00:50:08.250
  • A HABIT.
  • 00:50:08.250 --> 00:50:10.100
  • LISTEN, YOU CAN TURN IT OVER TO
  • 00:50:10.100 --> 00:50:11.210
  • THE NEWS AND IT'S GONNA MAKE
  • 00:50:11.210 --> 00:50:13.030
  • YOU DEPRESSED OR ANGRY.
  • 00:50:13.030 --> 00:50:13.220
  • OR YOU CAN TURN OVER TO HEAR
  • 00:50:13.220 --> 00:50:14.210
  • GOD'S WORD.
  • 00:50:14.210 --> 00:50:15.230
  • AND SO, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:50:15.230 --> 00:50:16.260
  • TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM,
  • 00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:17.220
  • BE A PART OF THIS STATION.
  • 00:50:17.220 --> 00:50:19.040
  • TUNE IN REGULARLY.
  • 00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:20.140
  • IT'S REALLY GREAT STUFF.
  • 00:50:20.140 --> 00:50:21.090
  • AND, ALSO, PLEASE PICK UP THIS
  • 00:50:21.090 --> 00:50:22.060
  • I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU DO TO
  • 00:50:23.210 --> 00:50:24.110
  • THAT.
  • 00:50:24.110 --> 00:50:25.090
  • LISTEN, THIS IS GREAT.
  • 00:50:25.090 --> 00:50:25.270
  • I'M NOT TRYIN' TO GET SOMETHING
  • 00:50:25.270 --> 00:50:26.240
  • FROM YOU, RIGHT NOW; I'M TRYING
  • 00:50:26.240 --> 00:50:27.210
  • TO GET SOMETHING TO YOU.
  • 00:50:27.210 --> 00:50:29.060
  • OKAY?
  • 00:50:29.060 --> 00:50:29.220
  • SO, WOULD YOU PLEASE PICK UP A
  • 00:50:29.220 --> 00:50:31.070
  • COPY OF THIS BOOK, RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:50:31.070 --> 00:50:32.150
  • YOU CAN CALL THE NUMBER ON
  • 00:50:32.150 --> 00:50:33.180
  • THE SCREEN, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:50:33.180 --> 00:50:34.220
  • AND THERE'S A-- RIGHT NOW, FOR
  • 00:50:34.220 --> 00:50:35.260
  • A GIFT OF $60 OR MORE, YOU GET
  • 00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:36.180
  • A COPY OF SHEILA'S NEWEST BOOK.
  • 00:50:38.210 --> 00:50:41.210
  • YOU'RE GONNA GET EIGHT STEPS
  • 00:50:41.210 --> 00:50:42.120
  • THAT ARE GONNA SET YOU FREE.
  • 00:50:42.120 --> 00:50:43.230
  • THEN, ALSO, ON TOP OF THAT, YOU
  • 00:50:43.230 --> 00:50:44.230
  • ALSO GET DR. DAVID JEREMIAH'S
  • 00:50:44.230 --> 00:50:46.110
  • BOOK "OVERCOMER."
  • 00:50:46.110 --> 00:50:48.290
  • THIS IS A GREAT POWER-
  • 00:50:48.290 --> 00:50:50.210
  • PACKED...PACK THAT YOU WANNA
  • 00:50:50.210 --> 00:50:53.010
  • GET.
  • 00:50:53.010 --> 00:50:53.170
  • PLEASE DO THAT TODAY.
  • 00:50:53.170 --> 00:50:54.110
  • GET THESE.
  • 00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:54.250
  • I THINK IT'LL REALLY BE A
  • 00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:55.280
  • BLESSING TO YOU.
  • 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:56.250
  • GET IT FOR SOMEONE YOU LOVE.
  • 00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:57.220
  • I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO
  • 00:50:57.220 --> 00:50:58.140
  • THAT.
  • 00:50:58.140 --> 00:50:59.000
  • I'LL SOMETIMES GET A BOOK
  • 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.000
  • AND THEN-- AND THEN WRITE,
  • 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.030
  • AS IF I'M THE AUTHOR,
  • 00:51:03.030 --> 00:51:05.100
  • WRITE A LITTLE THING IN IT,
  • 00:51:05.100 --> 00:51:06.180
  • SIGN MY NAME, AND THEN GIVE IT
  • 00:51:06.180 --> 00:51:07.090
  • TO SOMEBODY.
  • 00:51:07.090 --> 00:51:07.210
  • YOU EVER DO THAT?
  • 00:51:07.210 --> 00:51:08.060
  • LIKE, YOU JUST-- JUST TO BE A
  • 00:51:08.060 --> 00:51:08.270
  • BLESSING.
  • 00:51:08.270 --> 00:51:09.080
  • - SHEILA: DR. JEREMIAH -- CAN
  • 00:51:09.080 --> 00:51:09.290
  • I JUST SAY A WORD ABOUT THAT?
  • 00:51:09.290 --> 00:51:10.200
  • - BIL: PLEASE.
  • 00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:11.210
  • - SHEILA: HE IS REALLY
  • 00:51:11.210 --> 00:51:12.090
  • MY MENTOR.
  • 00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:12.200
  • HE IS ONE OF MY DEAREST
  • 00:51:12.200 --> 00:51:13.080
  • FRIENDS.
  • 00:51:13.080 --> 00:51:13.190
  • THIS BOOK IS LIFE-CHANGING.
  • 00:51:13.190 --> 00:51:15.280
  • - BIL: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:16.130
  • - SHEILA: HE TALKS ABOUT
  • 00:51:16.130 --> 00:51:17.130
  • OVERCOMING EVERYTHING THAT WE
  • 00:51:17.130 --> 00:51:18.190
  • ARE FACING, RIGHT NOW, WHETHER
  • 00:51:18.190 --> 00:51:20.080
  • YOU'RE FACING FINANCIAL
  • 00:51:20.080 --> 00:51:21.070
  • TROUBLES, RELATIONAL
  • 00:51:21.070 --> 00:51:21.250
  • TROUBLES.
  • 00:51:21.250 --> 00:51:23.040
  • WHATEVER IT IS, THIS IS AN
  • 00:51:23.040 --> 00:51:24.140
  • INCREDIBLE BOOK.
  • 00:51:24.140 --> 00:51:26.010
  • - BIL: SO GOOD.
  • 00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:26.150
  • THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:51:26.150 --> 00:51:27.080
  • YES, PLEASE GET A COPY.
  • 00:51:27.080 --> 00:51:27.280
  • CALL TODAY.
  • 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:28.210
  • YOU DON'T WANNA MISS THIS
  • 00:51:28.210 --> 00:51:29.230
  • OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:51:29.230 --> 00:51:30.070
  • THIS IS A GREAT RESOURCE.
  • 00:51:30.070 --> 00:51:31.190
  • TBN MADE THIS DEAL AVAILABLE
  • 00:51:31.190 --> 00:51:33.040
  • JUST FOR YOU.
  • 00:51:33.040 --> 00:51:33.290
  • AND, NOT ONLY THAT, YOU'RE
  • 00:51:33.290 --> 00:51:35.130
  • HELPING TAKE THE GOSPEL ALL
  • 00:51:35.130 --> 00:51:36.100
  • AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:51:36.100 --> 00:51:37.170
  • IT'S A WIN-WIN.
  • 00:51:37.170 --> 00:51:38.140
  • YOU GET BLESSED AND YOU ALSO
  • 00:51:38.140 --> 00:51:39.170
  • GET TO BE A BLESSING FOR
  • 00:51:39.170 --> 00:51:40.200
  • OTHERS.
  • 00:51:40.200 --> 00:51:42.140
  • I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET A
  • 00:51:42.140 --> 00:51:43.050
  • COPY TODAY.
  • 00:51:43.050 --> 00:51:44.130
  • SO, IF THERE'S ONE LAST THOUGHT
  • 00:51:44.130 --> 00:51:45.180
  • YOU COULD LEAVE US WITH,
  • 00:51:45.180 --> 00:51:46.220
  • SHEILA, WITH THIS BOOK, WHAT
  • 00:51:46.220 --> 00:51:47.130
  • - SHEILA: IT'S THAT YOU GET TO
  • 00:51:49.020 --> 00:51:49.240
  • START AGAIN...AND AGAIN...AND
  • 00:51:49.240 --> 00:51:50.150
  • AGAIN...
  • 00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:53.090
  • - BIL: SO, I CAN START AGAIN--
  • 00:51:53.090 --> 00:51:54.010
  • - SHEILA: ...AND AGAIN.
  • 00:51:54.010 --> 00:51:54.200
  • - BIL: --AGAIN?
  • 00:51:54.200 --> 00:51:55.040
  • - SHEILA: AGAIN.
  • 00:51:55.040 --> 00:51:55.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:51:55.190 --> 00:51:56.000
  • YOU GET TO START--
  • 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:56.210
  • YEAH, 'CAUSE, SOMETIMES, YOU
  • 00:51:56.210 --> 00:51:57.120
  • KNOW, WE'LL THINK: YEAH, OKAY,
  • 00:51:57.120 --> 00:51:58.040
  • LORD, I'VE GOT IT.
  • 00:51:58.040 --> 00:51:59.270
  • EIGHT STEPS.
  • 00:51:59.270 --> 00:52:00.110
  • I'M ON IT.
  • 00:52:00.110 --> 00:52:00.230
  • AND THEN, SOMETHING HAPPENS AND
  • 00:52:00.230 --> 00:52:01.150
  • YOU FALL DOWN AND YOU THINK,
  • 00:52:01.150 --> 00:52:02.170
  • "WELL, I'M SUCH A FAILURE."
  • 00:52:02.170 --> 00:52:03.140
  • I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE:
  • 00:52:03.140 --> 00:52:04.200
  • CONDEMNATION IS NEVER FROM
  • 00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:05.280
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.110
  • IT'S NEVER FROM THE HOLY
  • 00:52:07.110 --> 00:52:08.040
  • SPIRIT.
  • 00:52:08.040 --> 00:52:09.070
  • CONVICTION IS FROM THE HOLY
  • 00:52:09.070 --> 00:52:10.130
  • SPIRIT.
  • 00:52:10.130 --> 00:52:10.270
  • CONDEMNATION -- SCRIPTURE SAYS,
  • 00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:14.220
  • ROMANS 8:1, "THERE IS
  • 00:52:14.220 --> 00:52:15.210
  • THEREFORE, NOW, NO CONDEMNATION
  • 00:52:15.210 --> 00:52:18.100
  • TO THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST
  • 00:52:18.100 --> 00:52:18.290
  • JESUS..."
  • 00:52:18.290 --> 00:52:19.100
  • SO, WHEN YOU FEEL CONDEMNED,
  • 00:52:19.100 --> 00:52:20.150
  • JUST RECOGNIZE WHERE IT COMES
  • 00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:21.060
  • FROM AND SAY, "THANK YOU FOR
  • 00:52:21.060 --> 00:52:22.040
  • YOUR GRACE, LORD," AND GET BACK
  • 00:52:22.040 --> 00:52:23.050
  • - BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:52:26.030 --> 00:52:26.210
  • THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:52:26.210 --> 00:52:27.050
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:52:27.050 --> 00:52:27.160
  • YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE ALL FALL
  • 00:52:27.160 --> 00:52:28.070
  • DOWN.
  • 00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:28.160
  • - SHEILA: YEAH, WE ALL DO!
  • 00:52:28.160 --> 00:52:29.060
  • - BIL: WE ALL DO.
  • 00:52:29.060 --> 00:52:29.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:52:29.210 --> 00:52:30.240
  • SO, WHEN YOU FALL DOWN, YOU GET
  • 00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:31.160
  • UP.
  • 00:52:31.160 --> 00:52:33.010
  • JUST LIKE A BABY.
  • 00:52:33.010 --> 00:52:34.040
  • YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE A BABY
  • 00:52:34.040 --> 00:52:34.250
  • FALL DOWN AND GO, "OH...WELL,
  • 00:52:34.250 --> 00:52:35.160
  • NO HOPE THERE."
  • 00:52:35.160 --> 00:52:36.080
  • - SHEILA: "YOU'RE A LOSER."
  • 00:52:36.080 --> 00:52:36.280
  • YEAH.
  • 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:37.070
  • - BIL: "NEVER GONNA WALK.
  • 00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:37.260
  • NEVER GONNA HAPPEN."
  • 00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:38.120
  • - SHEILA: HA!
  • 00:52:38.120 --> 00:52:38.270
  • - BIL: YOU KNOW, NOW, THEY
  • 00:52:38.270 --> 00:52:39.170
  • JUST GET BACK UP AGAIN.
  • 00:52:39.170 --> 00:52:40.050
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:52:40.050 --> 00:52:40.140
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:52:40.140 --> 00:52:40.280
  • - BIL: SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA
  • 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:41.180
  • LEAN ON SOMETHING OR SOMEONE
  • 00:52:41.180 --> 00:52:42.080
  • ELSE, GET A LITTLE HELP.
  • 00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:42.260
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:52:42.260 --> 00:52:43.100
  • - BIL: THAT'S WHAT THIS BOOK
  • 00:52:43.100 --> 00:52:44.010
  • CAN DO FOR YOU.
  • 00:52:44.010 --> 00:52:46.240
  • IT'S SOMETHING TO LEAN ON,
  • 00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:47.130
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:52:47.130 --> 00:52:47.220
  • YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT, BECAUSE,
  • 00:52:47.220 --> 00:52:48.180
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOD
  • 00:52:48.180 --> 00:52:49.180
  • TAUGHT ME A LONG TIME AGO WAS
  • 00:52:49.180 --> 00:52:50.190
  • WHENEVER I'M AT ONE POINT AND
  • 00:52:50.190 --> 00:52:51.100
  • ASKING GOD TO TAKE ME TO
  • 00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:54.110
  • ANOTHER, I'VE LEARNED TO PRAY
  • 00:52:54.110 --> 00:52:56.090
  • THIS PRAYER: GOD, WHAT'S THE
  • 00:52:56.090 --> 00:52:57.170
  • VEHICLE THAT I NEED TO GO FROM
  • 00:52:57.170 --> 00:52:58.080
  • HERE TO THERE?
  • 00:52:58.080 --> 00:52:59.180
  • THERE'S A DIFFERENT VEHICLE FOR
  • 00:52:59.180 --> 00:53:00.120
  • EVERYTHING.
  • 00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:01.060
  • - SHEILA: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:53:01.060 --> 00:53:01.260
  • - BIL: DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU
  • 00:53:01.260 --> 00:53:02.160
  • WANNA GO.
  • 00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:02.270
  • YOU WANNA GO HALF ACROSS THE
  • 00:53:02.270 --> 00:53:03.210
  • WORLD?
  • 00:53:03.210 --> 00:53:04.030
  • THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO DO IT.
  • 00:53:04.030 --> 00:53:05.020
  • YOU'VE DONE MULTIPLE TO-- I
  • 00:53:05.020 --> 00:53:06.020
  • MEAN, SCOTLAND ALL THE WAY TO
  • 00:53:06.020 --> 00:53:06.290
  • AMERICA, RIGHT?
  • 00:53:06.290 --> 00:53:07.130
  • YOU'VE PROBABLY DONE IT ALL.
  • 00:53:07.130 --> 00:53:08.040
  • WHAT'S THE VEHICLE?
  • 00:53:08.040 --> 00:53:08.230
  • THIS IS A VEHICLE.
  • 00:53:08.230 --> 00:53:11.170
  • THIS IS A VEHICLE TO FREEDOM, A
  • 00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:12.280
  • VEHICLE TO BE RELEASED FROM
  • 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.240
  • SHAME...
  • 00:53:15.240 --> 00:53:17.090
  • - SHEILA: MMH...
  • 00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:17.240
  • - BIL: ...FROM THE GUILT, FROM
  • 00:53:17.240 --> 00:53:18.210
  • FEELING LIKE I JUST-- MY LIFE
  • 00:53:18.210 --> 00:53:19.120
  • IS NOT RIGHT.
  • 00:53:19.120 --> 00:53:20.030
  • THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH
  • 00:53:20.030 --> 00:53:20.230
  • ME.
  • 00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:21.160
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:53:21.160 --> 00:53:22.120
  • - BIL: THIS IS A VEHICLE.
  • 00:53:22.120 --> 00:53:23.080
  • THIS CAN HELP YOU.
  • 00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:26.040
  • THIS BOOK IS A TOOL IN YOUR
  • 00:53:26.040 --> 00:53:28.240
  • HAND FROM GOD TO HELP YOU.
  • 00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:29.220
  • PICK THIS UP TODAY.
  • 00:53:29.220 --> 00:53:30.250
  • LISTEN, IT'S A GREAT PACK.
  • 00:53:30.250 --> 00:53:32.080
  • YOU GET BOTH DR. DAVID
  • 00:53:32.080 --> 00:53:33.040
  • JEREMIAH'S BOOK, AS WELL AS
  • 00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:34.150
  • YOURS.
  • 00:53:34.150 --> 00:53:34.280
  • SHEILA, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:35.190
  • JUST TO KEEP GETTING THE WORD
  • 00:53:35.190 --> 00:53:37.040
  • OUT.
  • 00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:37.160
  • WOULD YOU, PLEASE, JUST COME
  • 00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:38.070
  • BACK?
  • 00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:38.220
  • WOULD YOU DO THAT, BY THE WAY?
  • 00:53:38.220 --> 00:53:39.230
  • - SHEILA: I WOULD LOVE IT.
  • 00:53:39.230 --> 00:53:40.130
  • - BIL: WOULDN'T IT BE FUN TO
  • 00:53:40.130 --> 00:53:41.100
  • HAVE SHEILA BACK AGAIN?
  • 00:53:41.100 --> 00:53:42.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:53:42.100 --> 00:53:42.270
  • [SHEILA LAUGHS]
  • 00:53:42.270 --> 00:53:43.180
  • - SHEILA: THANK YOU.
  • 00:53:43.180 --> 00:53:44.250
  • - BIL: WOULDN'T IT BE BLESSED
  • 00:53:44.250 --> 00:53:46.030
  • TO DO THAT?
  • 00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:46.270
  • - SHEILA: I'D LOVE IT.
  • 00:53:46.270 --> 00:53:47.150
  • - BIL: I MEAN, WHAT A
  • 00:53:47.150 --> 00:53:48.020
  • BLESSING.
  • 00:53:48.020 --> 00:53:48.130
  • I GOT TO MEET YOUR HUSBAND.
  • 00:53:48.130 --> 00:53:49.030
  • - SHEILA: I WANNA MEET YOUR
  • 00:53:49.250 --> 00:53:50.150
  • WIFE!
  • 00:53:50.150 --> 00:53:50.240
  • YOUR WIFE SOUNDS ADORABLE.
  • 00:53:50.240 --> 00:53:52.170
  • - BIL: SHE'S A BLESSING.
  • 00:53:52.170 --> 00:53:53.060
  • SHE'S SO--
  • 00:53:53.060 --> 00:53:53.180
  • SHE'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:53:53.180 --> 00:53:54.030
  • PEOPLE SAY, "HOW'D YOU DO
  • 00:53:54.030 --> 00:53:54.220
  • THAT?"
  • 00:53:54.220 --> 00:53:55.010
  • I'M LIKE: "I DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:53:55.010 --> 00:53:55.200
  • I'M A SALESMAN.
  • 00:53:55.200 --> 00:53:56.040
  • THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
  • 00:53:56.040 --> 00:53:56.200
  • [SHEILA LAUGHS]
  • 00:53:56.200 --> 00:53:57.040
  • I'M JUST-- GOD'S GOOD.
  • 00:53:57.040 --> 00:53:57.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:53:57.210 --> 00:53:58.030
  • THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY."
  • 00:53:58.030 --> 00:53:58.200
  • I'M VERY, VERY BLESSED.
  • 00:53:58.200 --> 00:53:59.080
  • AND SO--
  • 00:53:59.080 --> 00:53:59.180
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:53:59.180 --> 00:54:00.090
  • I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, THOUGH
  • 00:54:00.090 --> 00:54:01.070
  • THAT JUST DON'T MISS--
  • 00:54:01.070 --> 00:54:01.280
  • THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT HOUR.
  • 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.060
  • AND I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN A
  • 00:54:03.060 --> 00:54:04.110
  • BLESSING TO YOU.
  • 00:54:04.110 --> 00:54:04.270
  • AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU: STAY
  • 00:54:04.270 --> 00:54:05.260
  • WITH US.
  • 00:54:05.260 --> 00:54:06.100
  • BUT, ALSO, GET THIS RESOURCE.
  • 00:54:06.100 --> 00:54:07.170
  • I KNOW YOU THINK, "MAN, YOU'RE
  • 00:54:07.170 --> 00:54:08.220
  • JUST BEATING A DEAD DRUM,
  • 00:54:08.220 --> 00:54:09.110
  • HERE."
  • 00:54:09.110 --> 00:54:09.200
  • NO, I'M REALLY NOT.
  • 00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:10.060
  • BECAUSE I KNOW THIS CAN REALLY
  • 00:54:10.060 --> 00:54:10.270
  • HELP YOU.
  • 00:54:10.270 --> 00:54:11.080
  • BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING I'VE
  • 00:54:11.080 --> 00:54:12.010
  • LEARNED: THERE COULD BE ONE
  • 00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:12.270
  • PAGE IN THIS BOOK THAT COULD
  • 00:54:12.270 --> 00:54:14.260
  • CHANGE EVERYTHING.
  • 00:54:14.260 --> 00:54:15.250
  • HAS THAT HAPPENED FOR YOU?
  • 00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:17.020
  • - SHEILA: OH, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:54:17.020 --> 00:54:17.250
  • - BIL: I HAVE PAGES IN BOOKS,
  • 00:54:17.250 --> 00:54:19.010
  • I'M LIKE: THAT PAGE STOPPED ME
  • 00:54:19.010 --> 00:54:20.030
  • COLD.
  • 00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:21.000
  • THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS I READ
  • 00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:22.110
  • THAT I STARTED A CHURCH OFF
  • 00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:23.150
  • OF...
  • 00:54:23.150 --> 00:54:23.280
  • - SHEILA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.130
  • - BIL: ...THAT I GAVE MY LIFE
  • 00:54:24.130 --> 00:54:25.040
  • TO THE MINISTRY...
  • 00:54:25.040 --> 00:54:25.190
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:26.040
  • - BIL: ...THAT I KNEW GOD WAS
  • 00:54:26.040 --> 00:54:26.260
  • CALLING ME TO MARRY THIS
  • 00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:27.250
  • BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, 25 YEARS
  • 00:54:27.250 --> 00:54:28.240
  • LATER, NOW.
  • 00:54:28.240 --> 00:54:30.030
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:54:30.030 --> 00:54:30.150
  • THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS LIKE
  • 00:54:30.150 --> 00:54:31.240
  • JUST ONE WORD OF TRUTH...
  • 00:54:31.240 --> 00:54:33.150
  • [SNAPS FINGERS]
  • 00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:34.000
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.180
  • - BIL: ...CAN CHANGE
  • 00:54:34.180 --> 00:54:35.050
  • EVERYTHING.
  • 00:54:35.050 --> 00:54:35.270
  • - SHEILA: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:54:35.270 --> 00:54:36.140
  • - BIL: AND SO, THAT'S WHAT I
  • 00:54:36.140 --> 00:54:37.050
  • LOVE ABOUT GETTING GREAT
  • 00:54:37.050 --> 00:54:38.030
  • CONTENT TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:54:38.030 --> 00:54:39.090
  • AND YOU'RE GETTING THIS FROM
  • 00:54:39.090 --> 00:54:40.110
  • SOMEONE WHO'S WRITTEN 25 BOOKS,
  • 00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:41.030
  • BY THE WAY.
  • 00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:42.170
  • IS THAT RIGHT?
  • 00:54:42.170 --> 00:54:43.030
  • TWENTY-FIVE BOOKS?
  • 00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:43.290
  • - SHEILA: ACTUALLY, IT'S ABOUT
  • 00:54:43.290 --> 00:54:44.210
  • 45, NOW, 'CAUSE I WRITE FOR
  • 00:54:44.210 --> 00:54:45.210
  • KIDS, TOO.
  • 00:54:45.210 --> 00:54:46.280
  • I LOVE WRITING FOR CHILDREN.
  • 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:47.260
  • - BIL:: OH! ARE YOU KIDDING
  • 00:54:47.260 --> 00:54:48.160
  • ME?
  • 00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:48.260
  • - SHEILA: NO.
  • 00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:49.090
  • - BIL: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:54:49.090 --> 00:54:49.270
  • THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:54:49.270 --> 00:54:50.130
  • WELL, LISTEN, THANK YOU FOR
  • 00:54:50.130 --> 00:54:51.030
  • THIS RESOURCE.
  • 00:54:51.030 --> 00:54:51.290
  • THANKS FOR MAKING THIS
  • 00:54:51.290 --> 00:54:52.180
  • AVAILABLE.
  • 00:54:52.180 --> 00:54:53.040
  • THANK YOU FOR THE HONESTY THAT
  • 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:54.070
  • YOU'RE SHARING YOUR TRUE HEART
  • 00:54:54.070 --> 00:54:56.120
  • AND LIFE.
  • 00:54:56.120 --> 00:54:57.140
  • AND THANK YOU THAT YOU DON'T
  • 00:54:57.140 --> 00:54:59.230
  • SKIP ON TRUTH, THAT YOU REALLY
  • 00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:00.270
  • TELL US: HERE'S WHAT REALLY
  • 00:55:00.270 --> 00:55:02.060
  • HAPPENED.
  • 00:55:02.100 --> 00:55:05.100
  • IT WAS UGLY.
  • 00:55:05.100 --> 00:55:05.230
  • IT WASN'T FUN.
  • 00:55:05.230 --> 00:55:06.080
  • BUT I GOT THROUGH IT.
  • 00:55:06.080 --> 00:55:07.020
  • - SHEILA: AND JESUS WAS
  • 00:55:07.020 --> 00:55:07.210
  • THERE...
  • 00:55:07.210 --> 00:55:08.010
  • - BIL: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:55:08.010 --> 00:55:08.280
  • - SHEILA: ...EVERY STEP OF THE
  • 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:09.200
  • WAY.
  • 00:55:09.200 --> 00:55:10.190
  • - BIL: HE REALLY IS OUR HOPE.
  • 00:55:10.190 --> 00:55:11.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:11.100 --> 00:55:11.270
  • - SHEILA: YES, HE IS.
  • 00:55:11.270 --> 00:55:13.110
  • - BIL: HE REALLY IS.
  • 00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:13.280
  • [SHOW ENDING THEME PLAYS]
  • 00:55:23.180 --> 00:55:25.250