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Praise | Darryl Strawberry & Jason Romano | 3/29/19

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March 29, 2019
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Clifton Davis hosts Darryl Strawberry & Jason Romano.

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Praise | Darryl Strawberry & Jason Romano | 3/29/19

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT, ON
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  • "PRAISE,"
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  • FROM NEW YORK CITY:
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  • FOUR-TIME WORLD SERIES CHAMPION
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  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY;
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  • AND SPORTS BROADCASTER
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  • JASON ROMANO.
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  • AND, NOW, CLIFTON DAVIS.
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  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS HAPPILY]
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  • - CLIFTON DAVIS: (MIMICKING
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  • AUDIENCE CALLS) WHOOH-OOH!
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  • HELLO, EVERYBODY!
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  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • HELLO!
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  • [LAUGHS]
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  • AWWW...
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  • I LOVE YOU!
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  • I LOVE YOU.
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  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO GOOD.
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  • YOU MAKE ME FEEL AT HOME
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  • IN NEW YORK!
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  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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  • AWWW...I TELL YOU...THIS IS A
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  • GREAT PLACE TO BE.
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  • HI, I'M CLIFTON DAVIS AND THIS
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  • IS TBN NEW YORK...
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  • ...A PLACE WHERE, EVERY TIME
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  • YOU ARRIVE, YOU CAN EXPECT A
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  • BLESSING.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • OH, YEAH -- GOD IS ABOUT
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  • BLESSING FOLK WHO COME IN HERE.
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  • YOU'LL HEAR SOMETHING THAT'LL
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  • HELP YOU IN LIFE, AND KEEP YOU
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  • MOVING FORWARD, AND MOVING UP
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  • TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
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  • AND I FULLY EXPECT THAT THAT'S
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  • GOING TO BE YOUR EXPERIENCE,
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  • TODAY.
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  • AND YOU WATCHING WHEREVER YOU
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  • ARE AROUND THE WORLD, WELCOME!
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  • THIS IS "PRAISE."
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  • AND WE'RE GONNA DO JUST THAT.
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  • MANY YEARS AGO-- IN FACT, IT
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  • WAS 39 YEARS AGO.
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  • THIRTY-NINE-- THANK YOU, JESUS.
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  • THIRTY-NINE YEARS AGO...
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • ...I WAS SUFFERING FROM
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  • ADDICTION.
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  • I WAS ADDICTED TO ILLEGAL
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  • SUBSTANCES, AND, MY LIFE
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  • WAS HEADIN' THE WRONG WAY.
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  • BUT I MET A MAN NAMED JESUS
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  • ABOUT 39 YEARS AGO.
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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  • AND, UH...AND, IT'S BEEN
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  • AMAZING EVER SINCE, I'VE GOTTA
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  • TELL YOU.
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  • THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS
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  • BECAUSE OUR THEME TONIGHT IS
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  • ADDICTION AND FORGIVENESS.
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  • AND WE'RE GONNA TALK TO OUR
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  • GUESTS ABOUT THAT.
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  • AND I WANT YOU TO MEET OUR
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: FOUR-TIME
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  • WORD SERIES CHAMPION
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  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY IS A BASEBALL
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  • LEGEND WITH A 17-YEAR CAREER
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  • THAT INCLUDES EIGHT ALL-STAR
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  • APPEARANCES.
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  • DARRYL HAD A SUCCESSFUL CAREER
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  • WITH THE NEW YORK METS,
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  • LOS ANGELES DODGERS,
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  • AND NEW YORK YANKEES.
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  • BUT HE ALSO FACED HIS FAIR
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  • SHARE OF CHALLENGES.
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  • HE MANAGED TO OVERCOME THOSE
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  • CHALLENGES TO FIND TRUE
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  • REDEMPTION AND RESTORATION IN
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  • JESUS CHRIST.
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  • TODAY, DARRYL LEADS STRAWBERRY
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  • MINISTRIES WITH HIS WIFE,
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  • TRACY, AND TRAVELS THE COUNTRY
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  • TO SPEAK ABOUT GOD'S REDEMPTIVE
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  • POWER.
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  • PLEASE WELCOME...
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  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • - CLIFTON: GOD BLESS YOU,
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  • BROTHER.
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  • - DARRYL STRAWBERRY: GOD BLESS
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  • YOU, TOO.
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  • LOOK AT THAT.
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  • HERE WE ARE.
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  • - CLIFTON: IT'S AMAZING.
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  • - DARRYL: ALL RIGHT.
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  • YEAH.
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  • - CLIFTON: OH, YEAH.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • YEAH, A FEW METS, FEW YANKEES
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  • FANS.
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  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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  • - DARRYL: GOT A LITTLE BIT OF
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  • EVERYTHING.
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
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  • GOOD.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - CLIFTON: IT'S A WONDERFUL
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  • THING.
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  • WELL, YOU CERTAINLY HAD A
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  • STELLAR CAREER IN BASEBALL,
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  • AND, UH, SO MANY ACCOLADES.
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  • THE METS HALL OF FAME AND-- AND
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  • SO MANY OTHER THINGS OVER THE
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  • YEARS, BUT...BUT, HOW YOU GOT
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  • INTO IT AND WHAT HAPPENED IN
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  • YOUR CHILDHOOD IS SOMETHING
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  • THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
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  • WOULD YOU SHARE WITH US SOME OF
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  • WHAT YOUR CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCE
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS
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  • REALLY DYSFUNCTION.
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  • MY DAD WAS AN ALCOHOLIC, AND,
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  • UM...YOU KNOW, HE BEAT ME AND
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  • MY BROTHERS AND SAID I'D NEVER
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  • AMOUNT TO NOTHIN'.
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  • AND, UM, WE BELIEVED IT.
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  • HE CAME FOR THE LAST TIME WHEN
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  • I WAS 14, PULLED OUT A SHOTGUN,
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  • SAID HE WAS GONNA KILL THE
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  • HE WAS DRUNK.
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  • AND, ME AND MY BROTHERS WENT
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  • INTO ACTION.
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  • HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR MY MOTHER,
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  • AH, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE
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  • KILLED HIM.
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  • - CLIFTON: MMH!
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  • - DARRYL: THERE'S-- THERE'S NO
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  • DOUBT ABOUT IT.
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  • BUT, SHE GOT US OUT OF THE
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  • HOUSE, AND...
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  • SO, IT WAS A VERY PAINFUL
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  • CHILDHOOD.
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  • MOST PEOPLE SAW ME
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  • PUT THE UNIFORM ON AND
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  • THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT MY
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  • PAIN LED ME TO MY GREATNESS.
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  • - CLIFTON: MMH!
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  • ISN'T THAT SOMETHING?
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH. YEAH.
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  • - CLIFTON: MY, MY, MY...
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  • IT WAS A MOTIVATING FACTOR
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  • THAT HELPED TO DRIVE YOU
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  • FORWARD INTO YOUR ATHLETIC
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  • PURSUITS?
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  • - DARRYL: NO QUESTION ABOUT
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  • IT.
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  • I MEAN, WHEN YOU GROW UP IN A
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  • SITUATION WHERE IT'S VERY
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  • DYSFUNCTIONAL, IT'S HARD TO
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  • REALLY IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE.
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  • BECAUSE, BEFORE I EVER PUT THE
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  • UNIFORM ON, I WAS ALREADY
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  • SCARRED.
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  • I ALREADY HAD THE SCARS, YOU
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  • KNOW, FROM MY FATHER.
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  • - CLIFTON: MMH.
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  • - DARRYL: SO, I WOULD SAY THAT
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  • MY PAIN LED ME TO GREATNESS OF
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  • WHO I WAS.
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  • BUT MY GREATNESS WOULD, THEN,
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  • EVENTUALLY LEAD ME TO MY
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  • DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR.
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  • - CLIFTON: AH.
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  • WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
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  • HOW DID YOU GET INTO BASEBALL?
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  • - DARRYL: WELL, IT WAS PRETTY
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  • EASY.
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  • I MEAN, I HAD A LOT OF GOOD
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  • COACHES WHO KEPT DRAGGIN' ME
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  • OUT OF THE HOUSE.
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  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
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  • YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANNA GO
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  • PRACTICE, BUT THEY MADE SURE I
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  • GOT UP AND...THEY MADE SURE I
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  • DIDN'T GET CAUGHT UP INTO GIRLS
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  • OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT 'CAUSE,
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  • A LOT OF TIMES,
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  • THAT WAS A DISTRACTION TO A
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  • LOT OF PLAYERS WHEN THEY WERE
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  • YOUNG BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO
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  • HAVE THEIR GIRLFRIENDS.
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  • AND THIS ONE COACH NAMED
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  • MR. MOSELEY, HE WAS LIKE,
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  • "YOU'RE NOT GONNA
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  • HAVE A GIRLFRIEND."
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  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S COLD.
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I KNOW.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - CLIFTON: AND THAT'S NOT EASY
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  • FOR A...A YOUNG MAN WITH--
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  • - DARRYL: NO, IT'S NOT EASY--
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  • - CLIFTON: --HORMONES RAGING.
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  • - DARRYL: IT'S NOT EASY AT
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  • ALL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE DID
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  • FOR ME WAS WHAT I COULDN'T DO
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  • FOR MYSELF.
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  • HE MADE ME FOCUS ON WHAT I
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  • WANTED TO BE.
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  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
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  • - DARRYL: HE MADE ME FOCUS ON
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  • HOW GREAT I WANTED TO BE.
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  • AND IT WAS ABOUT PRACTICE, IT
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  • WAS ABOUT PRACTICE, IT WAS
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  • ABOUT PRACTICE.
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  • AND, ANYTIME YOU PRACTICE,
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  • PRACTICE, PRACTICE IN ANYTHING
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  • IN LIFE, YOU GONNA GET GOOD AT
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  • IT.
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  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
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  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, AND I
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  • THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S
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  • WHERE A LOT OF US GO WRONG IN
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  • OUR LIFE -- WE DON'T PRACTICE
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  • ENOUGH.
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  • AND WE CAN'T TO WHERE GOD
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  • REALLY WANTS US TO GET.
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  • AND...AND, FOR ME, I DIDN'T
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  • REALLY KNOW AT THAT TIME, AH,
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  • BUT I KNEW ONE THING: I HAD A
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  • DRIVE INSIDE OF ME THAT WAS--
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  • THAT WAS GREATER THAN PROBABLY
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  • MOST GUYS.
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  • WHILE MOST GUYS WERE IN
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  • BED SLEEPING, I WAS UP IN THE
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  • MORNING WORKING OUT, GETTIN'
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  • AFTER IT, AND WANTING TO, UH,
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  • BE THIS GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER.
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  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
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  • WELL, NOW, HOW DID YOU FEEL
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  • WHEN THAT SUCCESS FIRST CAME
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  • AND WHEN YOU STARTED KNOCKING
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  • THAT BALL OVER THE WALL, OVER
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  • AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN?
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  • [DARRYL LAUGHS]
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  • - DARRYL: WELL, I FELT PRETTY
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  • COOL THEN...YOU KNOW.
  • 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:51.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:06:51.150 --> 00:06:52.130
  • BUT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
  • 00:06:52.130 --> 00:06:53.040
  • INGRAINED INSIDE OF ME.
  • 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:53.280
  • YOU KNOW, I MEAN I REALLY HAD A
  • 00:06:53.280 --> 00:06:55.050
  • DESIRE TO DO IT.
  • 00:06:55.050 --> 00:06:57.120
  • I WASN'T-- SEE, I THINK A LOT
  • 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:58.130
  • OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS TO US, AS
  • 00:06:58.130 --> 00:06:59.290
  • PEOPLE, WE'RE AFRAID...TO FAIL.
  • 00:07:00.200 --> 00:07:03.200
  • AND FAILURE'S A PART OF BEING
  • 00:07:03.200 --> 00:07:05.060
  • SUCCESSFUL.
  • 00:07:05.060 --> 00:07:07.140
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:07:07.140 --> 00:07:08.090
  • - DARRYL: AND MOST GREAT
  • 00:07:08.090 --> 00:07:09.250
  • ATHLETES WILL COME TO THAT
  • 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:10.150
  • PLACE AND KNOW THAT: I'M GONNA
  • 00:07:10.150 --> 00:07:12.150
  • HAVE SOME FAILURES, BUT WHAT DO
  • 00:07:12.150 --> 00:07:13.070
  • I DO AFTER THAT?
  • 00:07:13.070 --> 00:07:13.240
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:14.260
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, DO I STAY
  • 00:07:14.260 --> 00:07:15.180
  • THERE OR DO I GET UP?
  • 00:07:15.180 --> 00:07:16.080
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:07:16.080 --> 00:07:16.250
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, AND THERE
  • 00:07:16.250 --> 00:07:18.080
  • WAS A LOT OF TIMES SOMEBODY'S
  • 00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:20.030
  • GONNA BEAT ME ON THAT GIVEN
  • 00:07:20.030 --> 00:07:20.260
  • NIGHT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA
  • 00:07:20.260 --> 00:07:21.160
  • BEAT ME EVERY NIGHT.
  • 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.020
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:07:22.020 --> 00:07:22.180
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW.
  • 00:07:22.180 --> 00:07:23.040
  • AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
  • 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:23.250
  • THERE'RE GONNA BE DAYS WHERE
  • 00:07:23.250 --> 00:07:24.200
  • YOU'RE GONNA GET ME, BUT I'M
  • 00:07:24.200 --> 00:07:25.140
  • GONNA ALWAYS REMEMBER IN THE
  • 00:07:25.140 --> 00:07:26.160
  • BACK OF MY HEAD THAT YOU GOT
  • 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:27.210
  • ME.
  • 00:07:27.210 --> 00:07:29.150
  • AND WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR ME
  • 00:07:29.150 --> 00:07:30.060
  • TO GET YOU, I'M GONNA GET YOU.
  • 00:07:30.060 --> 00:07:31.080
  • - CLIFTON: UH-HUH.
  • 00:07:31.080 --> 00:07:31.240
  • - DARRYL: SO, I MEAN, THAT'S--
  • 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:32.290
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, IT'S A
  • 00:07:32.290 --> 00:07:33.170
  • COMPETITIVE SPORT, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:07:33.170 --> 00:07:34.070
  • - DARRYL: YES.
  • 00:07:34.070 --> 00:07:34.240
  • I'M VERY COMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.070
  • AND YOU HAVE-- WELL, YOU JUST
  • 00:07:36.070 --> 00:07:38.140
  • HAVE TO BE UNDER CONTROL...
  • 00:07:38.140 --> 00:07:39.250
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:07:39.250 --> 00:07:40.260
  • - DARRYL: ...UM, AS AN
  • 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:41.210
  • ATHLETE.
  • 00:07:41.210 --> 00:07:42.130
  • THE GREAT ONES ARE ALWAYS UNDER
  • 00:07:42.130 --> 00:07:43.270
  • CONTROL AND WE KNOW HOW TO DO
  • 00:07:43.270 --> 00:07:44.290
  • IT.
  • 00:07:44.290 --> 00:07:45.190
  • I USED TO TELL PEOPLE -- THEY'D
  • 00:07:45.190 --> 00:07:46.160
  • SAY, "WELL, WHY WERE YOU SO
  • 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.010
  • SUCCESSFUL...IN CERTAIN
  • 00:07:48.010 --> 00:07:48.190
  • SITUATIONS?"
  • 00:07:48.190 --> 00:07:49.060
  • BECAUSE I WIN THE BALLGAME FROM
  • 00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:51.160
  • THE ON-DECK CIRCLE.
  • 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.100
  • I DIDN'T PLAY IT WHEN I WENT
  • 00:07:53.100 --> 00:07:54.000
  • INTO THE BATTLE SPOT.
  • 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:55.000
  • I HAD A PLAN WHEN BEFORE I GOT
  • 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:56.070
  • INTO THE BATTLE SPOTS.
  • 00:07:56.070 --> 00:07:56.240
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.130
  • - DARRYL: SO, THE ON-DECK
  • 00:07:58.130 --> 00:07:59.080
  • CIRCLE -- I'LL WATCH THE GAME,
  • 00:07:59.080 --> 00:08:00.020
  • WATCH THE FIELD, AND...WATCH
  • 00:08:00.020 --> 00:08:01.100
  • THE SITUATION, AND...AND I
  • 00:08:01.100 --> 00:08:02.250
  • KNEW...EVERY AT BAT.
  • 00:08:02.250 --> 00:08:05.000
  • 'CAUSE PITCHERS ARE DUMB.
  • 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:06.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:08.020
  • AND...I JUST KNEW EVERY AT BAT
  • 00:08:08.020 --> 00:08:10.090
  • I'M GONNA GET TWO GOOD PITCHES
  • 00:08:10.090 --> 00:08:12.150
  • TO HIT.
  • 00:08:12.150 --> 00:08:14.020
  • ONE OF 'EM I GOTTA HIT.
  • 00:08:14.020 --> 00:08:15.020
  • AND, THAT'S UP TO ME.
  • 00:08:15.020 --> 00:08:16.280
  • IF I MISS THOSE TWO PITCHES,
  • 00:08:16.280 --> 00:08:18.110
  • THEN...THAT'S ON ME.
  • 00:08:18.110 --> 00:08:19.220
  • AND I ALWAYS--
  • 00:08:19.220 --> 00:08:20.100
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S AN
  • 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:20.280
  • INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:08:20.280 --> 00:08:21.230
  • I NEVER-- I NEVER HEARD IT
  • 00:08:21.230 --> 00:08:22.130
  • QUITE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:08:22.130 --> 00:08:23.140
  • THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:08:23.140 --> 00:08:24.200
  • OUT OF THAT AT BAT, YOU'RE
  • 00:08:24.200 --> 00:08:27.050
  • GONNA GET AT LEAST TWO-- TWO
  • 00:08:27.050 --> 00:08:28.010
  • GOOD PITCHES.
  • 00:08:28.010 --> 00:08:28.280
  • AND ONE OF 'EM...
  • 00:08:28.280 --> 00:08:29.150
  • - DARRYL: EVERY AT BAT, YOU
  • 00:08:29.150 --> 00:08:30.240
  • KNOW, YOU GONNA GET AT LEAST
  • 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:31.280
  • TWO GOOD PITCHES.
  • 00:08:31.280 --> 00:08:32.270
  • ONE OF 'EM YOU GOTTA HIT.
  • 00:08:32.270 --> 00:08:33.240
  • I MAY FOUL ONE OFF, BUT THE
  • 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:34.290
  • NEXT ONE I GOTTA GET.
  • 00:08:34.290 --> 00:08:35.280
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:08:35.280 --> 00:08:36.120
  • IT'S JUST A MINDSET.
  • 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:37.070
  • IT'S HOW YOU SET YOUR MIND.
  • 00:08:37.070 --> 00:08:38.180
  • AND, IF YOU SET YOUR MIND AND
  • 00:08:38.180 --> 00:08:40.010
  • YOU'RE DETERMINED, YOU CAN BE
  • 00:08:40.010 --> 00:08:42.170
  • SUCCESSFUL AT WHATEVER YOU SET
  • 00:08:42.170 --> 00:08:43.240
  • YOUR MIND...TO DO.
  • 00:08:43.260 --> 00:08:46.260
  • - CLIFTON: SPEAKING OF
  • 00:08:46.260 --> 00:08:48.090
  • PITCHING, YOU BECAME GOOD
  • 00:08:48.090 --> 00:08:49.160
  • FRIENDS WITH DWIGHT GOODEN.
  • 00:08:49.160 --> 00:08:50.290
  • TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT
  • 00:08:50.290 --> 00:08:52.220
  • RELATIONSHIP, AND WHERE THAT
  • 00:08:52.220 --> 00:08:53.260
  • WENT, AND...HOW THAT...
  • 00:08:53.260 --> 00:08:55.190
  • INFLUENCED YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.240
  • - DARRYL: WELL, IT WAS A GREAT
  • 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.240
  • RELATIONSHIP FOR US BEING YOUNG
  • 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.000
  • AFRICAN-AMERICANS PLAYING IN
  • 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:03.210
  • NEW YORK CITY.
  • 00:09:03.210 --> 00:09:04.080
  • A LOT OF PRESSURE.
  • 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:04.270
  • DWIGHT WAS 19 WHEN HE CAME UP.
  • 00:09:04.270 --> 00:09:06.100
  • I WAS 21.
  • 00:09:06.100 --> 00:09:08.080
  • UM, I HAD ALREADY BEEN IN THE
  • 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:09.050
  • BIG LEAGUES AND WON ROOKIE OF
  • 00:09:09.050 --> 00:09:10.290
  • THE YEAR.
  • 00:09:10.290 --> 00:09:11.160
  • HE CAME RIGHT BEHIND ME AND WON
  • 00:09:11.160 --> 00:09:12.080
  • ROOKIE OF THE YEAR.
  • 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:12.250
  • - CLIFTON: WOW.
  • 00:09:12.250 --> 00:09:13.250
  • - DARRYL: SO, THE EXPECTATIONS
  • 00:09:13.250 --> 00:09:14.170
  • WERE REALLY...OFF THE CHART.
  • 00:09:14.170 --> 00:09:16.110
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:09:16.110 --> 00:09:17.110
  • - DARRYL: AND WE FULFILLED THE
  • 00:09:17.110 --> 00:09:18.030
  • PROMISES OF THE EXPECTATION.
  • 00:09:18.030 --> 00:09:18.230
  • BUT I WOULD SAY OUR
  • 00:09:18.230 --> 00:09:20.250
  • RELATIONSHIP IS GREAT TODAY.
  • 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:23.010
  • I'M REALLY PROUD OF HIM.
  • 00:09:23.010 --> 00:09:25.030
  • WE'VE BOTH HAD OUR CHALLENGES
  • 00:09:25.030 --> 00:09:27.010
  • AND STRUGGLES.
  • 00:09:27.010 --> 00:09:27.190
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:09:27.190 --> 00:09:28.150
  • - DARRYL: AND, YOU KNOW, OF
  • 00:09:28.150 --> 00:09:29.220
  • COURSE, ALL THE TIME, THE
  • 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:30.270
  • MEDIA'S GONNA ALWAYS MAKE
  • 00:09:30.270 --> 00:09:32.020
  • SOMETHING OUT OF WHAT WE SAY.
  • 00:09:32.020 --> 00:09:33.110
  • UM, BUT IF I SAY SOMETHIN', I
  • 00:09:33.110 --> 00:09:35.100
  • SAY IT BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:09:35.100 --> 00:09:37.150
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:09:37.150 --> 00:09:38.060
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:09:38.060 --> 00:09:38.250
  • I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN.
  • 00:09:38.250 --> 00:09:39.180
  • I'M NOT LOOKIN' FOR FAME OR
  • 00:09:39.180 --> 00:09:40.140
  • FORTUNE.
  • 00:09:40.140 --> 00:09:41.010
  • YOU KNOW, MY LIFE HAS BEEN
  • 00:09:41.010 --> 00:09:42.030
  • CHANGED BY JESUS.
  • 00:09:42.030 --> 00:09:43.090
  • I WANT-- I WANT-- I WANT PEOPLE
  • 00:09:43.090 --> 00:09:44.240
  • TO EXPERIENCE THAT.
  • 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:45.160
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:09:45.160 --> 00:09:46.070
  • SO...
  • 00:09:46.070 --> 00:09:47.010
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:09:51.270 --> 00:09:54.270
  • - CLIFTON: SO-- SO, YOU WERE
  • 00:09:54.270 --> 00:09:55.260
  • ENJOYING SO MUCH SUCCESS.
  • 00:09:55.260 --> 00:09:57.060
  • HOW DID ADDICTION WEAVE ITS WAY
  • 00:09:57.150 --> 00:10:00.150
  • INTO YOUR LIFE?
  • 00:10:00.150 --> 00:10:02.050
  • WELL, ADDICTION NEVER WEAVES
  • 00:10:05.040 --> 00:10:05.240
  • ITS WAY INTO YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:06.120
  • IT'S A SPIRITUAL BROKENNESS,
  • 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:07.030
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:10:07.030 --> 00:10:09.220
  • AND IT'S A DISCONNECTION FROM
  • 00:10:09.220 --> 00:10:10.130
  • GOD HIMSELF.
  • 00:10:10.130 --> 00:10:13.060
  • WHAT ADDICTION IS--
  • 00:10:13.060 --> 00:10:13.270
  • SEE, LAWLESSNESS BRINGS...ABOUT
  • 00:10:14.150 --> 00:10:17.150
  • ALL KIND OF THINGS, ABOUT
  • 00:10:17.150 --> 00:10:18.290
  • AND ADDICTION IS A SPIRITUAL
  • 00:10:21.180 --> 00:10:22.260
  • BROKENNESS AND ONE FEELS EMPTY
  • 00:10:22.260 --> 00:10:23.170
  • ON THE INSIDE, SO WHEN ONE TRIED
  • 00:10:23.170 --> 00:10:25.110
  • TO PICK UP A DRINK,
  • 00:10:25.110 --> 00:10:27.260
  • OR I TRIED TO PICK UP A
  • 00:10:28.020 --> 00:10:31.020
  • DRUG HE'S TRYING TO ESCAPE
  • 00:10:31.020 --> 00:10:31.240
  • FROM WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING ON
  • 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.010
  • THE INSIDE.
  • 00:10:33.010 --> 00:10:33.280
  • HE'S TRYING TO HIDE HIMSELF
  • 00:10:33.280 --> 00:10:35.040
  • FROM, REALLY, WHAT'S GOING ON
  • 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:36.070
  • ON THE INSIDE.
  • 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:37.050
  • AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL
  • 00:10:37.050 --> 00:10:38.000
  • YEARS AND YEARS OF GOING
  • 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.100
  • THROUGH ADDICTION AND REALIZING
  • 00:10:40.100 --> 00:10:42.000
  • THAT THE POWER OF IT IS THE
  • 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:43.210
  • SPIRITUAL BROKENNESS --
  • 00:10:43.210 --> 00:10:45.020
  • SEPARATED FROM GOD.
  • 00:10:45.020 --> 00:10:46.230
  • ADDICTION IS SIN, JUST LIKE
  • 00:10:47.060 --> 00:10:50.060
  • ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:10:50.060 --> 00:10:51.220
  • AND WHAT IS SIN?
  • 00:10:51.220 --> 00:10:52.190
  • WHAT DOES SIN DOES?
  • 00:10:52.190 --> 00:10:54.120
  • SIN KEEPS YOU COMPLETELY
  • 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:55.050
  • SEPARATED FROM GOD.
  • 00:10:55.050 --> 00:10:57.020
  • AND THAT'S WHAT ADDICTION
  • 00:10:57.020 --> 00:10:58.030
  • DOES --
  • 00:10:58.030 --> 00:10:58.200
  • IT KEEPS YOU SEPARATED,
  • 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.100
  • COMPLETELY SEPARATED,
  • 00:11:00.100 --> 00:11:01.170
  • SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A
  • 00:11:01.170 --> 00:11:04.050
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD YOURSELF.
  • 00:11:04.050 --> 00:11:05.220
  • UH, ONCE ONE ALTER THEIR MIND,
  • 00:11:05.220 --> 00:11:08.100
  • THEIR MIND HAS CHANGED.
  • 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:10.050
  • AND WHEN I STARTED WITH-- AT
  • 00:11:10.050 --> 00:11:12.100
  • THE AGE OF 14, 15 YEARS OLD
  • 00:11:12.100 --> 00:11:14.040
  • SMOKIN' MARIJUANA, WHICH IS THE
  • 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:15.270
  • MAIN MARIJUANA TODAY,
  • 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:18.200
  • WHERE EVERYBODY SMOKES.
  • 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:19.220
  • I'M NOT TALKIN' ABOUT PEOPLE
  • 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:20.260
  • THAT HAS HEALTH PROBLEMS.
  • 00:11:20.260 --> 00:11:22.150
  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE
  • 00:11:22.150 --> 00:11:24.060
  • THAT'S PICKIN' UP MARIJUANA AND
  • 00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:25.130
  • STARTIN' TO SMOKE IT.
  • 00:11:25.130 --> 00:11:26.100
  • IT ALTERS THEIR MIND, IT
  • 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:27.220
  • CHANGES THEIR MIND, IT DOESN'T
  • 00:11:27.220 --> 00:11:29.080
  • LAST FOREVER, THEN YOU GOTTA GO
  • 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:30.230
  • TO SOMETHING STRONGER.
  • 00:11:30.230 --> 00:11:33.060
  • AND THAT'S WHAT ADDICTION IS --
  • 00:11:33.060 --> 00:11:34.070
  • IT'S THE GRIPS OF DARKNESS, UM,
  • 00:11:34.070 --> 00:11:37.000
  • AND WHAT IT DOES -- IT ROBS YOU
  • 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.090
  • FROM YOUR SOUL.
  • 00:11:39.090 --> 00:11:40.230
  • IT ROBS YOU FROM, UH, YOUR
  • 00:11:40.230 --> 00:11:43.140
  • LOVED ONES, AND IT TAKES YOU TO
  • 00:11:43.140 --> 00:11:46.040
  • PLACES THAT YOU COULD NEVER
  • 00:11:46.040 --> 00:11:47.280
  • IMAGINE, AND IT KEEPS YOU THERE
  • 00:11:47.280 --> 00:11:49.060
  • LONGER THAN YOU COULD EVER WANT
  • 00:11:49.060 --> 00:11:50.020
  • TO BE THERE.
  • 00:11:50.020 --> 00:11:51.280
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...MMH-MHH-
  • 00:11:51.280 --> 00:11:52.170
  • MMH...
  • 00:11:52.170 --> 00:11:53.060
  • WELL, THE CHALLENGES THAT IT
  • 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:58.020
  • HELPED PRESENT IN YOUR LIFE
  • 00:11:58.020 --> 00:11:59.040
  • WERE QUITE HEAVY.
  • 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:01.140
  • IN FACT, YOU SPENT SOME TIME IN
  • 00:12:01.140 --> 00:12:03.200
  • JAIL.
  • 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:04.260
  • WAS THAT A GROWING EXPERIENCE
  • 00:12:04.260 --> 00:12:05.200
  • FOR YOU?
  • 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.230
  • WAS THAT A LEARNING EXPERIENCE?
  • 00:12:08.190 --> 00:12:11.190
  • - DARRYL: I ALWAYS SAY GOD
  • 00:12:11.190 --> 00:12:12.090
  • HAS A WONDERFUL PLAN.
  • 00:12:12.090 --> 00:12:12.260
  • SEE, WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T
  • 00:12:12.260 --> 00:12:14.270
  • UNDERSTAND: MAN DOESN'T HAVE A
  • 00:12:14.270 --> 00:12:16.010
  • PLAN.
  • 00:12:16.010 --> 00:12:16.260
  • YOU KNOW, HE BELIEVES HE HAS A
  • 00:12:16.260 --> 00:12:18.040
  • PLAN.
  • 00:12:18.040 --> 00:12:18.190
  • HE HAS A PLAN TO CRITICIZE YOU,
  • 00:12:18.190 --> 00:12:19.290
  • WRITE ABOUT YOU, AND TALK ABOUT
  • 00:12:19.290 --> 00:12:21.050
  • YOU.
  • 00:12:21.050 --> 00:12:21.170
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:12:21.170 --> 00:12:22.120
  • - DARRYL: BUT GOD HAS THIS
  • 00:12:23.030 --> 00:12:26.030
  • MASTERPIECE PLAN THAT NO MATTER
  • 00:12:26.030 --> 00:12:28.250
  • WHERE HE PUTS YOU, HE PUTS YOU
  • 00:12:28.250 --> 00:12:29.160
  • THERE FOR A REASON.
  • 00:12:29.160 --> 00:12:30.020
  • SEE, WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND, WHEN
  • 00:12:30.020 --> 00:12:30.230
  • YOU UNDERSTAND BIBLICAL
  • 00:12:30.230 --> 00:12:31.110
  • PRINCIPLES AND YOU GO THROUGH
  • 00:12:31.110 --> 00:12:32.070
  • THE BIBLE, THEY ALL HAD ISSUES
  • 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:32.280
  • JUST LIKE US.
  • 00:12:32.280 --> 00:12:33.260
  • - CLIFTON: YES, YES.
  • 00:12:33.260 --> 00:12:34.130
  • - DARRYL: DAVID WAS A
  • 00:12:34.130 --> 00:12:35.290
  • WOMANIZER -- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:12:35.290 --> 00:12:37.090
  • PUT HIS BEST MAN, URIAH,
  • 00:12:37.090 --> 00:12:38.190
  • ON THE FRONTLINE TO GET KILLED.
  • 00:12:38.190 --> 00:12:39.290
  • UM, JONAH -- GOD TOLD HIM TO
  • 00:12:39.290 --> 00:12:41.270
  • GOT NINEVEH.
  • 00:12:41.270 --> 00:12:44.030
  • HE JUMPED ON A BOAT, GO THE
  • 00:12:44.030 --> 00:12:45.250
  • OTHER WAY TO TARSHISH.
  • 00:12:45.250 --> 00:12:47.030
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:12:47.030 --> 00:12:47.190
  • - DARRYL: DISOBEYING GOD.
  • 00:12:47.190 --> 00:12:48.170
  • HOW MANY OF US DO THAT?
  • 00:12:48.170 --> 00:12:49.110
  • WE ALL DO THAT.
  • 00:12:49.110 --> 00:12:49.260
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:12:49.260 --> 00:12:50.120
  • - DARRYL: BUT GOD DID NOT
  • 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:51.110
  • REJECT HIM.
  • 00:12:51.110 --> 00:12:52.080
  • YOU KNOW, HE JUST LET YOU GO
  • 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:53.160
  • AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR WAY AND GO,
  • 00:12:53.160 --> 00:12:54.230
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:12:54.230 --> 00:12:55.290
  • AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT,
  • 00:12:55.290 --> 00:12:57.110
  • YOU KNOW, MOSES WAS USED
  • 00:12:57.110 --> 00:12:59.010
  • MIGHTILY BY GOD BECAUSE OF HIS
  • 00:12:59.010 --> 00:13:00.130
  • MEEKNESS, BUT HE HAD A SPEECH
  • 00:13:00.130 --> 00:13:02.070
  • IMPEDIMENT.
  • 00:13:02.070 --> 00:13:02.240
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:03.110
  • - DARRYL: AND, YOU KNOW, HE
  • 00:13:03.110 --> 00:13:04.160
  • DIDN'T WANNA DO WHAT GOD CALLED
  • 00:13:04.160 --> 00:13:05.140
  • HIM TO DO.
  • 00:13:05.140 --> 00:13:06.200
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL HAVE ISSUES
  • 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.050
  • AND GOD SEES THOSE ISSUES IN
  • 00:13:08.050 --> 00:13:09.290
  • ONE'S LIFE.
  • 00:13:09.290 --> 00:13:12.090
  • AND MY LIFE WAS NO DIFFERENT.
  • 00:13:12.090 --> 00:13:13.000
  • I JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE
  • 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:13.210
  • PUBLIC EYE.
  • 00:13:13.210 --> 00:13:15.040
  • BUT, THE GOOD-- THE GREATEST
  • 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:16.070
  • THING I LOVE ABOUT JESUS IS
  • 00:13:16.070 --> 00:13:17.170
  • JESUS SHOWED HIS SCARS.
  • 00:13:17.170 --> 00:13:19.260
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...
  • 00:13:19.260 --> 00:13:20.280
  • - DARRYL: SEE, PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:13:20.280 --> 00:13:22.100
  • AFRAID TO SHOW THEIR SCARS.
  • 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:24.210
  • SEE, I'M NOT AFRAID TO SHOW MY
  • 00:13:24.210 --> 00:13:25.200
  • SCARS, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.240
  • - CLIFTON: I HEAR YA.
  • 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:27.120
  • - DARRYL: --BECAUSE-- SEE,
  • 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.150
  • BECAUSE JESUS ALREADY DID IT ON
  • 00:13:28.150 --> 00:13:29.070
  • THE CROSS...
  • 00:13:29.070 --> 00:13:29.210
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:13:29.210 --> 00:13:30.190
  • - DARRYL: ...FOR YOU, YOU
  • 00:13:30.190 --> 00:13:31.090
  • KNOW?
  • 00:13:31.090 --> 00:13:32.030
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:13:32.030 --> 00:13:33.120
  • SO, I THINK...
  • 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:34.020
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:13:38.210 --> 00:13:41.210
  • I THINK IN A SOCIETY...I THINK
  • 00:13:41.210 --> 00:13:42.250
  • IN A SOCIETY WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY
  • 00:13:42.250 --> 00:13:43.160
  • FROM SHOWING OUR SCARS.
  • 00:13:43.160 --> 00:13:44.090
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...
  • 00:13:44.090 --> 00:13:44.250
  • - DARRYL: WE CAN'T HELP NOBODY
  • 00:13:44.250 --> 00:13:45.240
  • IF WE AIN'T NEVER BEEN THROUGH
  • 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:46.160
  • NOTHIN'.
  • 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:46.260
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:47.190
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF
  • 00:13:47.190 --> 00:13:49.180
  • WANNA SAY JESUS, BUT HAVE YOU
  • 00:13:49.180 --> 00:13:51.000
  • BEEN THROUGH SOMETHING TO TELL
  • 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:51.210
  • SOMEONE ELSE THAT JESUS IS THE
  • 00:13:51.210 --> 00:13:53.040
  • MESSIAH?
  • 00:13:53.040 --> 00:13:54.190
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:13:54.190 --> 00:13:55.190
  • HAVE YOU COME TO THAT PLACE
  • 00:13:55.190 --> 00:13:57.190
  • WHERE YOU'RE NOT AFRAID, YOU'RE
  • 00:13:57.190 --> 00:13:59.100
  • NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOOD NEWS?
  • 00:13:59.100 --> 00:14:01.110
  • YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'RE MORE
  • 00:14:01.110 --> 00:14:02.250
  • CONSUMED ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE
  • 00:14:02.250 --> 00:14:04.150
  • THINK ABOUT US AND OUR IMAGE
  • 00:14:04.150 --> 00:14:06.210
  • AND EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF WHAT
  • 00:14:06.210 --> 00:14:08.010
  • HE'S ALREADY DONE ON CALVARY.
  • 00:14:08.010 --> 00:14:08.220
  • SEE, AND WHAT WE NEED TO
  • 00:14:08.220 --> 00:14:10.240
  • UNDERSTAND -- EARLY SUNDAY
  • 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.050
  • MORNING, HE GOT UP FROM THAT
  • 00:14:12.050 --> 00:14:12.260
  • TOMB.
  • 00:14:12.260 --> 00:14:13.050
  • - CLIFTON: YES.
  • 00:14:13.050 --> 00:14:13.190
  • - DARRYL: AND WHEN HE GOT UP
  • 00:14:13.190 --> 00:14:14.100
  • FROM THAT TOMB, HE GOT UP FROM
  • 00:14:14.100 --> 00:14:15.010
  • ALL POWER.
  • 00:14:15.010 --> 00:14:15.120
  • SO, WE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT
  • 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.020
  • WE GOT--
  • 00:14:16.020 --> 00:14:17.040
  • GALATIANS 2:20 TALKS ABOUT IT.
  • 00:14:17.040 --> 00:14:18.130
  • "I HAVE BEEN CRUCIFIED WITH
  • 00:14:18.130 --> 00:14:19.150
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:14:19.150 --> 00:14:21.080
  • IT IS NO LONGER I WHO LIVE; IT
  • 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:22.160
  • IS CHRIST WHO LIVES IN ME."
  • 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:23.060
  • - CLIFTON: YES, SIR.
  • 00:14:23.060 --> 00:14:23.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:14:23.260 --> 00:14:24.130
  • - DARRYL: SO, THAT'S WHAT--
  • 00:14:24.130 --> 00:14:25.040
  • THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA TALK
  • 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:26.290
  • ABOUT.
  • 00:14:26.290 --> 00:14:27.120
  • WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE.
  • 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:28.030
  • WE GOTTA STOP TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:14:28.030 --> 00:14:28.240
  • THIS FOOLISHNESS.
  • 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:29.220
  • AND THE POWER IS STILL IN THAT
  • 00:14:29.220 --> 00:14:31.000
  • BIBLE.
  • 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.230
  • IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE.
  • 00:14:32.230 --> 00:14:33.120
  • "HEAVEN AND EARTH GONNA PASS
  • 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:34.070
  • AWAY, BUT NOT MY WORD."
  • 00:14:34.070 --> 00:14:34.250
  • THAT BIBLE IS GONNA ALWAYS
  • 00:14:34.250 --> 00:14:36.070
  • CHANGE YOU, REGARDLESS OF
  • 00:14:36.070 --> 00:14:37.270
  • WHATEVER YOU GO THROUGH.
  • 00:14:37.270 --> 00:14:39.090
  • AND, IT'S PART OF GOING THROUGH
  • 00:14:39.090 --> 00:14:40.250
  • IT.
  • 00:14:40.250 --> 00:14:41.070
  • SEE, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GOD SO
  • 00:14:41.070 --> 00:14:42.110
  • MUCH IS, YOU KNOW, BEING IN
  • 00:14:42.210 --> 00:14:45.210
  • PRISON WITH A T17169, GOD WAS
  • 00:14:45.210 --> 00:14:47.190
  • DOING FOR ME WHAT I COULDN'T DO
  • 00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:49.090
  • FOR MYSELF.
  • 00:14:49.090 --> 00:14:49.230
  • HE WAS SPARIN' MY LIFE.
  • 00:14:49.230 --> 00:14:51.240
  • - CLIFTON: MMH!
  • 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:52.080
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:53.010
  • 'CAUSE I'M STILL HERE TODAY
  • 00:14:53.010 --> 00:14:54.040
  • TO BE A--
  • 00:14:54.040 --> 00:14:54.210
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:55.140
  • - DARRYL: --BE A WITNESS FOR
  • 00:14:55.140 --> 00:14:56.050
  • HIM.
  • 00:14:56.050 --> 00:14:56.130
  • - CLIFTON: YEP.
  • 00:14:56.130 --> 00:14:57.000
  • - DARRYL: AND WHEN YOU THINK
  • 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:57.210
  • ABOUT IT...
  • 00:14:57.210 --> 00:14:58.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:14:58.030 --> 00:15:00.120
  • WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT--
  • 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:03.160
  • WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU
  • 00:15:03.160 --> 00:15:04.270
  • THINK ABOUT IT, HE-- I
  • 00:15:04.270 --> 00:15:06.140
  • ALWAYS...I ALWAYS, DEEP DOWN
  • 00:15:06.140 --> 00:15:09.040
  • INSIDE, KNEW THAT GOD HAD A
  • 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:10.160
  • PLAN.
  • 00:15:10.160 --> 00:15:12.150
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:15:12.150 --> 00:15:13.070
  • - DARRYL: I JUST HAD TO GET IN
  • 00:15:13.070 --> 00:15:13.290
  • THE PLAN.
  • 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:14.100
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT,
  • 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:14.290
  • THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:15:14.290 --> 00:15:15.120
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY
  • 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:16.030
  • DID I END UP IN THE FLORIDA
  • 00:15:16.030 --> 00:15:17.040
  • STATE PRISON, I ENDED UP A
  • 00:15:17.040 --> 00:15:18.040
  • CANCER TWICE AND LOSIN' MY LEFT
  • 00:15:18.040 --> 00:15:19.120
  • KIDNEY IN MY SECOND SURGERY.
  • 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.160
  • SO, IF YOU-- JESUS IS A
  • 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:21.150
  • MIRACLE.
  • 00:15:21.150 --> 00:15:22.270
  • IF YOU GO TO THE BIBLE AND THE
  • 00:15:22.270 --> 00:15:24.130
  • BOOK OF JOHN, IT'S ABOUT
  • 00:15:24.130 --> 00:15:25.240
  • BELIEVING.
  • 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:26.160
  • JESUS DID MIRACLES -- TURNING
  • 00:15:26.160 --> 00:15:27.270
  • WATER INTO WINE, FEEDING OF THE
  • 00:15:27.270 --> 00:15:29.030
  • 5.000.
  • 00:15:29.030 --> 00:15:29.190
  • HE DID ALL KIND OF MIRACLES
  • 00:15:29.190 --> 00:15:32.060
  • AFTER MIRACLES.
  • 00:15:32.060 --> 00:15:33.100
  • HE'S STILL DOIN' THE SAME
  • 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:34.180
  • MIRACLES TODAY.
  • 00:15:34.180 --> 00:15:35.040
  • - CLIFTON: COME ON!
  • 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:36.000
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:36.160
  • - CLIFTON: YES, YES.
  • 00:15:36.160 --> 00:15:37.080
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:37.240
  • AND THE THING ABOUT...THE THING
  • 00:15:38.150 --> 00:15:41.150
  • ABOUT REVEALING THE SCARS -- IT
  • 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:42.260
  • SHOWS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HURT
  • 00:15:42.260 --> 00:15:44.160
  • BEFORE, BUT IT ALSO SHOWS
  • 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:45.270
  • YOU'VE BEEN HEALED.
  • 00:15:45.270 --> 00:15:47.290
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:15:47.290 --> 00:15:48.150
  • - CLIFTON: SCARS ARE THE SIGN
  • 00:15:48.150 --> 00:15:49.060
  • OF HEALING!
  • 00:15:49.060 --> 00:15:51.230
  • - DARRYL: SCARS ARE THE SIGN
  • 00:15:51.230 --> 00:15:52.140
  • OF HEALING.
  • 00:15:52.140 --> 00:15:52.260
  • WHEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
  • 00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:55.110
  • CAVALRY AND UNDERSTAND THAT
  • 00:15:55.110 --> 00:15:57.100
  • CROSS, AND HIM SHEDDING HIS
  • 00:15:57.100 --> 00:15:58.250
  • BLOOD ON THAT CROSS,
  • 00:15:58.250 --> 00:15:59.250
  • THAT BLOOD IS CLEAN ON
  • 00:15:59.250 --> 00:16:02.030
  • THAT CROSS.
  • 00:16:02.030 --> 00:16:02.180
  • - CLIFTON: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:16:02.180 --> 00:16:03.130
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, THAT BLOOD
  • 00:16:03.130 --> 00:16:04.140
  • ON THAT CROSS IS CLEAN.
  • 00:16:04.140 --> 00:16:05.040
  • HE'S A SINLESS MAN WITH NO SIN,
  • 00:16:05.040 --> 00:16:06.290
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:08.190
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:16:08.190 --> 00:16:10.010
  • - DARRYL: SO, ALL THE REST OF
  • 00:16:10.010 --> 00:16:10.220
  • US ARE GONNA FALL SHORT, BUT
  • 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:11.160
  • THAT MAN THERE -- HE DIDN'T
  • 00:16:11.160 --> 00:16:12.060
  • FALL SHORT.
  • 00:16:12.060 --> 00:16:12.270
  • THE VICTORY -- HE GAVE US THE
  • 00:16:12.270 --> 00:16:14.100
  • VICTORY, GOING TO THE CROSS.
  • 00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:16.080
  • SO, IT'S UP TO US TO RECEIVE
  • 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:17.130
  • IT, IT'S UP TO US TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:16:17.130 --> 00:16:19.250
  • IT, IT'S UP TO US TO LEARN THE
  • 00:16:19.250 --> 00:16:21.060
  • WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:16:21.060 --> 00:16:23.250
  • AND THE REASON WHY PEOPLE
  • 00:16:23.250 --> 00:16:25.050
  • STRUGGLE SO MUCH -- 'CAUSE THE
  • 00:16:25.050 --> 00:16:25.260
  • BIBLE SAYS, "MY PEOPLE PERISH
  • 00:16:25.260 --> 00:16:26.250
  • BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE,"
  • 00:16:26.250 --> 00:16:28.290
  • -- THERE'S NO KNOWLEDGE AND
  • 00:16:28.290 --> 00:16:30.020
  • UNDERSTANDING OF GOD'S WORD.
  • 00:16:30.020 --> 00:16:31.060
  • WE UNDERSTAND ALL THIS EARTHLY
  • 00:16:31.060 --> 00:16:32.110
  • FOOLISHNESS, BUT WE DON'T
  • 00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:34.060
  • UNDERSTAND THE KINGDOM STUFF.
  • 00:16:34.060 --> 00:16:36.070
  • AND ONCE THEY GET INTO THE
  • 00:16:36.070 --> 00:16:37.150
  • BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, AND YOU
  • 00:16:37.150 --> 00:16:39.090
  • STUDY GOD'S WORD AND SATURATE
  • 00:16:39.090 --> 00:16:41.030
  • YOURSELF, AND LAY WITH GOD,
  • 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:41.290
  • THEN YOU KNOW GOD.
  • 00:16:41.290 --> 00:16:43.100
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...MMH.
  • 00:16:43.100 --> 00:16:43.270
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, THEN YOU
  • 00:16:43.270 --> 00:16:44.290
  • KNOW GOD, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:45.160
  • AND THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED
  • 00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:46.130
  • TO COME BACK.
  • 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:47.100
  • DRUG-ADDICTION PEOPLE --
  • 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:49.010
  • 2 CHRONICLES 7:14 SAID, "IF MY
  • 00:16:49.010 --> 00:16:50.020
  • PEOPLE, WHO ARE CALLED BY MY
  • 00:16:50.020 --> 00:16:51.100
  • NAME, WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES
  • 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.190
  • AND PRAY AND SEEK...
  • 00:16:52.190 --> 00:16:53.060
  • [CLIFTON ALSO RECITING VERSE]
  • 00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:54.010
  • - CLIFTON: ...MY FACE...
  • 00:16:54.190 --> 00:16:57.190
  • - DARRYL: ...AND TURN..."
  • 00:16:57.190 --> 00:16:58.080
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:58.190
  • HE SAYS ALL THESE WONDERFUL
  • 00:16:58.190 --> 00:16:59.090
  • THINGS, BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO
  • 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:00.030
  • DO IT.
  • 00:17:00.030 --> 00:17:02.070
  • AND I THINK THE PROBLEM IS WITH
  • 00:17:02.070 --> 00:17:03.090
  • MOST PEOPLE -- THEY WON'T DO
  • 00:17:03.090 --> 00:17:04.220
  • IT.
  • 00:17:04.220 --> 00:17:05.130
  • THEY DON'T BELIEVE HE'S THE
  • 00:17:05.130 --> 00:17:06.060
  • ONE.
  • 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:06.210
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, GOD IS
  • 00:17:06.210 --> 00:17:08.210
  • OFFERING IT UP FREE AND CLEAR.
  • 00:17:09.100 --> 00:17:12.100
  • AND, YOU NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
  • 00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:13.020
  • OF THAT.
  • 00:17:13.020 --> 00:17:13.250
  • TELL ME HOW YOU MET THAT
  • 00:17:13.250 --> 00:17:15.070
  • INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN
  • 00:17:15.150 --> 00:17:18.150
  • WHO'S MARRIED TO YOU -- TRACY.
  • 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:20.100
  • - DARRYL: WELL, IT WAS A SIGN
  • 00:17:20.100 --> 00:17:21.280
  • OF GOD ALWAYS WILL SEND PEOPLE
  • 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:23.230
  • IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:17:23.230 --> 00:17:24.140
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:17:24.140 --> 00:17:25.050
  • - DARRYL: IN ALL OUR LIVES, HE
  • 00:17:25.050 --> 00:17:26.260
  • ALWAYS SENDS SOMEBODY.
  • 00:17:26.260 --> 00:17:27.260
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU-- YOU AT THE
  • 00:17:27.260 --> 00:17:29.080
  • BOTTOM, AT THE WORST TIME OF
  • 00:17:29.080 --> 00:17:30.200
  • YOUR LIFE, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:31.250
  • I WAS SHOOTIN' DOPE, SMOKIN'
  • 00:17:31.250 --> 00:17:33.020
  • CRACK, AND SHE HAD ONE YEAR
  • 00:17:33.020 --> 00:17:33.290
  • CLEAN.
  • 00:17:33.290 --> 00:17:34.230
  • - CLIFTON: MMH.
  • 00:17:34.230 --> 00:17:35.170
  • - DARRYL: NOBODY WOULD TOUCH
  • 00:17:35.170 --> 00:17:36.080
  • ME.
  • 00:17:36.080 --> 00:17:36.250
  • DIDN'T WANNA HAVE ANYTHING TO
  • 00:17:36.250 --> 00:17:37.160
  • DO WITH ME.
  • 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.220
  • I WAS $3 MILLION IN DEBT,
  • 00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:39.110
  • DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
  • 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:40.120
  • SHE WAS BANGIN' ON DOORS,
  • 00:17:40.120 --> 00:17:41.140
  • PULLIN' ME OUT OF DOPE HOUSES.
  • 00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:42.230
  • - CLIFTON: MMH!
  • 00:17:42.230 --> 00:17:43.210
  • - DARRYL: AND I WAS LIKE, "WHY
  • 00:17:43.210 --> 00:17:44.210
  • DON'T YOU AND THAT GOD YOU
  • 00:17:44.210 --> 00:17:45.280
  • SERVE JUST LEAVE ME HERE AND
  • 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:47.070
  • LET ME DIE?"
  • 00:17:47.070 --> 00:17:47.200
  • SHE SAID, "YOU JUST NOT THAT
  • 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:48.110
  • LUCKY."
  • 00:17:48.110 --> 00:17:48.230
  • - CLIFTON: HA!
  • 00:17:48.230 --> 00:17:50.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.050
  • - DARRYL: SO, SEE, PEOPLE LOOK
  • 00:17:52.050 --> 00:17:52.270
  • FROM A DISTANCE AND DON'T KNOW
  • 00:17:52.270 --> 00:17:53.260
  • WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH WITH
  • 00:17:53.260 --> 00:17:54.280
  • SOMEONE, BUT GOD SENDS SOMEONE
  • 00:17:54.280 --> 00:17:57.120
  • TO YOU TO HELP YOU BE RESTORED.
  • 00:17:57.120 --> 00:17:59.250
  • HE'S ALWAYS GONNA DO THE SAME
  • 00:17:59.250 --> 00:18:01.220
  • THAT HE'S ALWAYS DONE.
  • 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:03.260
  • GOD IS NEVER GONNA CHANGE.
  • 00:18:03.260 --> 00:18:06.050
  • GOD IS GONNA USE PEOPLE TO HELP
  • 00:18:06.050 --> 00:18:07.090
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:18:07.090 --> 00:18:09.030
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:09.030 --> 00:18:09.250
  • THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:10.110
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:18:10.110 --> 00:18:11.130
  • AND THAT'S ALL HE'S EVER DONE
  • 00:18:11.130 --> 00:18:12.040
  • AND THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE BY--
  • 00:18:12.040 --> 00:18:13.040
  • WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE BIBLE,
  • 00:18:13.040 --> 00:18:14.080
  • ALL THE PEOPLE IN THERE -- THEY
  • 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:15.160
  • ALL HAD ISSUES.
  • 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:16.140
  • BUT HE USED THEM TO HELP
  • 00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:18.020
  • SOMEBODY ELSE, TO BRING
  • 00:18:18.020 --> 00:18:19.080
  • SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME TO KNOW
  • 00:18:19.080 --> 00:18:21.160
  • THE LORD AND HAVE A
  • 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:22.260
  • RELATIONSHIP, PERSONAL
  • 00:18:22.260 --> 00:18:23.290
  • RELATIONSHIP, WITH CHRIST
  • 00:18:23.290 --> 00:18:24.180
  • HIMSELF.
  • 00:18:24.180 --> 00:18:25.000
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S
  • 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:25.230
  • WONDERFUL...THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:18:25.230 --> 00:18:26.140
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:18:26.140 --> 00:18:27.110
  • - CLIFTON: HOW DID YOU FIND
  • 00:18:27.110 --> 00:18:28.100
  • - DARRYL: WELL, THAT'S A
  • 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:32.140
  • REALLY GOOD QUESTION, 'CAUSE,
  • 00:18:32.140 --> 00:18:33.260
  • IT'S NOT EASY BECAUSE, UH, WHEN
  • 00:18:33.260 --> 00:18:34.180
  • I DECIDED TO SURRENDER, GOD SET
  • 00:18:34.180 --> 00:18:36.240
  • ME FOR SEVEN YEARS...AND DIDN'T
  • 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.210
  • SPEAK TO ME.
  • 00:18:39.210 --> 00:18:41.050
  • - CLIFTON: MMH.
  • 00:18:41.050 --> 00:18:42.000
  • - DARRYL: BUT HE WANTED ME TO
  • 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:42.210
  • GET DISCIPLED.
  • 00:18:42.210 --> 00:18:44.020
  • YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T
  • 00:18:44.020 --> 00:18:45.080
  • GET DISCIPLED ANYMORE AND THEY
  • 00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:46.220
  • AND THEY THINK THEY REALLY KNOW
  • 00:18:49.100 --> 00:18:50.020
  • IT.
  • 00:18:50.020 --> 00:18:50.100
  • AND, BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU
  • 00:18:50.100 --> 00:18:51.060
  • KNOW, THE DEVIL'S TEMPTIN' YOU
  • 00:18:51.060 --> 00:18:52.100
  • AND YOU'RE BACK OUT THERE DOIN'
  • 00:18:52.100 --> 00:18:53.180
  • THE SAME THING BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:18:53.180 --> 00:18:54.120
  • HAVEN'T DOWNLOADED THE WORD
  • 00:18:54.120 --> 00:18:55.290
  • DOWN INSIDE OF YOU.
  • 00:18:55.290 --> 00:18:58.050
  • AND JESUS TALKS ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:18:58.050 --> 00:18:59.230
  • IN JOHN 10:10, JESUS SAID, "THE
  • 00:18:59.230 --> 00:19:01.260
  • THIEF DOES NOT COME EXCEPT TO
  • 00:19:01.260 --> 00:19:03.020
  • STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY.
  • 00:19:03.020 --> 00:19:04.080
  • I HAVE COME THAT THEY MAY HAVE
  • 00:19:04.080 --> 00:19:05.090
  • LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE
  • 00:19:05.090 --> 00:19:06.080
  • ABUNDANTLY."
  • 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:06.220
  • AND ABUNDANT LIFE IS NOT STUFF;
  • 00:19:06.220 --> 00:19:08.190
  • IT'S JOY, PEACE, KNOWLEDGE,
  • 00:19:08.190 --> 00:19:09.230
  • WISDOM, POWER.
  • 00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:11.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:11.190 --> 00:19:12.070
  • THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS,
  • 00:19:12.070 --> 00:19:13.100
  • YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GET FROM THE
  • 00:19:13.100 --> 00:19:14.230
  • WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:19:14.230 --> 00:19:15.290
  • SO, THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF
  • 00:19:15.290 --> 00:19:17.100
  • SEVEN YEARS OF SITTING, I JUST
  • 00:19:17.100 --> 00:19:20.040
  • STUDIED AND LAID WITH GOD.
  • 00:19:20.040 --> 00:19:22.190
  • I CRIED AND I LAID WITH HIM.
  • 00:19:22.190 --> 00:19:24.150
  • AND I SAID: "LORD, I JUST WANNA
  • 00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:26.000
  • KNOW YOU.
  • 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:26.150
  • I DON'T WANT ANYTHING ELSE.
  • 00:19:26.150 --> 00:19:27.180
  • I DON'T WANNA BE RICH NO MORE.
  • 00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:28.240
  • I DON'T WANNA BE FAMOUS NO
  • 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:29.280
  • MORE.
  • 00:19:29.280 --> 00:19:30.130
  • I ALREADY EXPERIENCED THAT."
  • 00:19:30.130 --> 00:19:31.070
  • THE DEVIL'S A LIE.
  • 00:19:31.070 --> 00:19:33.100
  • HE TRIED TO KILL ME TO MAKE ME
  • 00:19:33.100 --> 00:19:34.080
  • BELIEVE THAT 'CAUSE THAT--
  • 00:19:34.080 --> 00:19:35.050
  • THAT, I COULD HAVE-- I COULD
  • 00:19:35.050 --> 00:19:37.200
  • HAVE NEVER HAD THE PROBLEMS I
  • 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.010
  • HAD AND PROBABLY BEEN ONE OF
  • 00:19:39.010 --> 00:19:40.160
  • THE GREATEST PLAYERS TO EVER
  • 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:43.100
  • PLAY BASEBALL, MADE ANOTHER $50
  • 00:19:43.100 --> 00:19:44.080
  • MILLION; I WOULD HAVE NEVER MET
  • 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:45.000
  • JESUS.
  • 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:45.110
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:19:45.110 --> 00:19:46.010
  • - DARRYL: AND I WOULD HAVE
  • 00:19:46.010 --> 00:19:46.270
  • BEEN SEPARATED FROM JESUS
  • 00:19:46.270 --> 00:19:47.160
  • BECAUSE OF THAT LIFESTYLE.
  • 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:48.210
  • AND YOU GET CONSUMED WITH IT
  • 00:19:48.210 --> 00:19:50.140
  • AND YOU THINK IT'S ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:19:50.140 --> 00:19:51.230
  • AND YOU WILL NEVER PICK UP A
  • 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:53.080
  • BIBLE, YOU'LL NEVER GO INTO
  • 00:19:53.080 --> 00:19:54.010
  • CHURCH 'CAUSE YOU THINK THEY
  • 00:19:54.010 --> 00:19:55.090
  • WANT SOMETHING FROM YOU.
  • 00:19:55.090 --> 00:19:56.100
  • AND ALL JESUS WANT IS YOUR
  • 00:19:56.100 --> 00:19:57.280
  • SOUL; HE DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING
  • 00:19:57.280 --> 00:19:59.130
  • FROM YOU.
  • 00:19:59.130 --> 00:20:00.270
  • - CLIFTON: AMEN!
  • 00:20:00.270 --> 00:20:01.140
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:20:03.120 --> 00:20:06.120
  • - DARRYL: WE'RE GONNA TALK
  • 00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:07.020
  • ABOUT HOW YOU GIVE BACK.
  • 00:20:07.020 --> 00:20:09.160
  • AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A
  • 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:10.280
  • FRIEND OF YOURS WHO WALKED A
  • 00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:15.140
  • SIMILAR PATH IN SOME WAYS.
  • 00:20:15.140 --> 00:20:17.250
  • IN FACT, LET'S INTRODUCE HIM BY
  • 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:20.010
  • VIDEO -- UH, OUR NEXT GUEST,
  • 00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:23.180
  • JASON ROMANO.
  • 00:20:23.250 --> 00:20:26.250
  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: EMMY
  • 00:20:26.250 --> 00:20:27.140
  • AWARD-WINNING SPORTS
  • 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:29.050
  • ANALYST, JASON ROMANO,
  • 00:20:29.050 --> 00:20:30.130
  • SPEAKS TO PEOPLE AROUND THE
  • 00:20:30.130 --> 00:20:31.030
  • COUNTRY ABOUT THE POWER OF
  • 00:20:31.030 --> 00:20:32.140
  • HIS DREAM OF BECOMING A SPORTS
  • 00:20:36.150 --> 00:20:37.060
  • BROADCASTER BECAME A REALITY
  • 00:20:37.060 --> 00:20:37.260
  • WHEN HE BUILT A 17-YEAR CAREER
  • 00:20:37.260 --> 00:20:38.290
  • BEHIND ALL OF HIS SUCCESS,
  • 00:20:41.110 --> 00:20:42.000
  • JASON STRUGGLED TO HEAL FROM A
  • 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.130
  • BROKEN RELATIONSHIP THAT HE HAD
  • 00:20:43.130 --> 00:20:45.090
  • HAD WITH HIS ALCOHOLIC FATHER.
  • 00:20:45.090 --> 00:20:47.090
  • JASON WROTE ABOUT FORGIVING HIS
  • 00:20:47.090 --> 00:20:48.210
  • FATHER IN THE BOOK, "LIVE TO
  • 00:20:48.210 --> 00:20:50.220
  • FORGIVE," AND IS PASSIONATE
  • 00:20:50.220 --> 00:20:53.150
  • ABOUT SPREADING THE MESSAGE OF
  • 00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:54.060
  • FAITH AND FORGIVENESS TO
  • 00:20:54.060 --> 00:20:54.270
  • OTHERS.
  • 00:20:54.270 --> 00:20:55.290
  • CURRENTLY, JASON HOSTS THE
  • 00:20:55.290 --> 00:20:57.230
  • SPORTS SPECTRUM PODCAST, WHERE
  • 00:20:57.230 --> 00:20:58.290
  • HE INTERVIEWS ATHLETES,
  • 00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:00.260
  • COACHES, AND ENTERTAINERS ABOUT
  • 00:21:00.260 --> 00:21:02.060
  • THEIR FAITH.
  • 00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:03.020
  • JASON TRAVELS THE NATION TO
  • 00:21:03.020 --> 00:21:04.270
  • SPEAK ABOUT THE GOODNESS OF GOD
  • 00:21:04.270 --> 00:21:06.110
  • AT YOUTH GROUPS, COLLEGES,
  • 00:21:06.110 --> 00:21:07.260
  • COMPANIES, AND CHURCHES.
  • 00:21:07.260 --> 00:21:09.180
  • PLEASE WELCOME JASON ROMANO.
  • 00:21:09.180 --> 00:21:12.160
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:21:18.060 --> 00:21:21.060
  • - CLIFTON: THEY'RE GLAD YOU'RE
  • 00:21:21.060 --> 00:21:21.280
  • HERE, TOO.
  • 00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:23.050
  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:21:23.050 --> 00:21:23.230
  • - JASON ROMANO: THANK YOU.
  • 00:21:23.230 --> 00:21:24.130
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:21:24.130 --> 00:21:26.030
  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:21:26.030 --> 00:21:28.110
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:21:28.110 --> 00:21:30.120
  • - CLIFTON: NOW, YOU SPENT
  • 00:21:30.120 --> 00:21:32.020
  • MANY, MANY YEARS AT ESPN.
  • 00:21:32.020 --> 00:21:33.170
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:34.070
  • - CLIFTON: HOW DID YOU MEET
  • 00:21:34.070 --> 00:21:34.280
  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY?
  • 00:21:36.020 --> 00:21:39.020
  • - JASON: UH, WELL, IT'S FUNNY
  • 00:21:39.020 --> 00:21:39.230
  • THAT YOU ASK THAT BECAUSE IT
  • 00:21:39.230 --> 00:21:41.090
  • GOES EVEN FURTHER BACK.
  • 00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:41.270
  • BEFORE I MET THIS MAN, I WAS
  • 00:21:41.270 --> 00:21:42.170
  • OUT THERE CHEERIN' HIM ON.
  • 00:21:42.170 --> 00:21:45.010
  • THIS GUY WAS ON THE POSTER ON
  • 00:21:45.010 --> 00:21:45.280
  • MY WALL, AS A KID.
  • 00:21:45.280 --> 00:21:48.130
  • AND I KEPT ALL HIS STATS.
  • 00:21:48.130 --> 00:21:49.160
  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
  • 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:50.110
  • AND I WAS A LITTLE OBSESSED
  • 00:21:50.110 --> 00:21:51.010
  • OVER DARRYL STRAWBERRY WHEN I
  • 00:21:51.010 --> 00:21:51.240
  • WAS 10 YEARS OLD.
  • 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:52.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:21:52.260 --> 00:21:54.140
  • UH, BUT FAST FORWARD -- IT WAS
  • 00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:56.140
  • 10 YEARS AGO AND MY JOB AT ESPN
  • 00:21:56.140 --> 00:21:58.150
  • WAS AS A TALENT BOOKER.
  • 00:21:58.150 --> 00:22:00.240
  • AND I WAS SECURING GUESTS AND
  • 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.240
  • BRINGING THEM TO ESPN TO DO A
  • 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:02.250
  • BUNCH OF INTERVIEWS.
  • 00:22:02.250 --> 00:22:04.080
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:05.040
  • - JASON: AND, LO AND BEHOLD,
  • 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:05.250
  • DARRYL HAD A BOOK OUT CALLED
  • 00:22:05.250 --> 00:22:06.220
  • "STRAW," I BELIEVE...
  • 00:22:06.220 --> 00:22:07.290
  • - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
  • 00:22:07.290 --> 00:22:09.210
  • - JASON: ...AND, UM, WAS
  • 00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:10.100
  • COMING TO ESPN TO PROMOTE IT.
  • 00:22:10.100 --> 00:22:11.020
  • SO, I JUMPED ON THAT ASSIGNMENT
  • 00:22:11.020 --> 00:22:12.280
  • AND SET UP A DAY FOR HIM TO
  • 00:22:12.280 --> 00:22:14.140
  • WALK THROUGH ESPN AND ALL THE
  • 00:22:14.140 --> 00:22:16.110
  • DIFFERENT SHOWS.
  • 00:22:16.110 --> 00:22:17.100
  • AND, SO, I SPENT THE DAY WITH
  • 00:22:17.100 --> 00:22:18.230
  • HIM.
  • 00:22:18.230 --> 00:22:20.150
  • AND I WAS VERY, VERY NERVOUS.
  • 00:22:20.150 --> 00:22:21.210
  • IT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST
  • 00:22:21.210 --> 00:22:22.280
  • NERVOUS I'VE BEEN BECAUSE I'M
  • 00:22:22.280 --> 00:22:24.020
  • MEETING MY CHILDHOOD BASEBALL
  • 00:22:24.020 --> 00:22:24.260
  • HERO, HERE.
  • 00:22:24.260 --> 00:22:25.280
  • UH, BUT DARRYL PUT ME AT EASE
  • 00:22:25.280 --> 00:22:28.120
  • RIGHT AWAY AND IT WAS A VERY
  • 00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:29.020
  • SPECIAL DAY.
  • 00:22:29.020 --> 00:22:30.170
  • IT REALLY CHANGED THE
  • 00:22:30.170 --> 00:22:31.260
  • TRAJECTORY OF MY PERSONAL LIFE
  • 00:22:31.260 --> 00:22:33.110
  • IN MANY WAYS, JUST THAT DAY
  • 00:22:33.110 --> 00:22:34.010
  • SPENDING WITH DARRYL.
  • 00:22:34.010 --> 00:22:36.130
  • - CLIFTON: AW...THAT'S
  • 00:22:36.130 --> 00:22:37.010
  • WONDERFUL.
  • 00:22:37.010 --> 00:22:37.120
  • THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:22:37.120 --> 00:22:37.270
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:22:37.270 --> 00:22:38.160
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, YOU'RE
  • 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:39.040
  • WITH A GIANT.
  • 00:22:39.040 --> 00:22:40.090
  • I MEAN, HE'S NOT JUST A GIANT
  • 00:22:40.090 --> 00:22:41.000
  • IN SPORTS.
  • 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:41.110
  • HE'S A BIG GUY, TOO.
  • 00:22:41.110 --> 00:22:42.210
  • - JASON: HE'S A BIG GUY.
  • 00:22:42.210 --> 00:22:43.260
  • I'M 6'1" AND HE MAKES ME LOOK
  • 00:22:43.260 --> 00:22:44.290
  • SMALL, SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW...
  • 00:22:44.290 --> 00:22:45.200
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:46.010
  • HE'S A BIG GUY.
  • 00:22:46.010 --> 00:22:47.090
  • - CLIFTON: SO, UH, WHAT DID--
  • 00:22:47.090 --> 00:22:49.230
  • WHAT DID THAT CAREER MEAN TO
  • 00:22:49.230 --> 00:22:52.100
  • YOU AFTER YOU TOUCHED LIVES
  • 00:22:52.100 --> 00:22:54.000
  • LIKE-- LIKE HIS?
  • 00:22:54.250 --> 00:22:57.250
  • - JASON: WATCHING DARRYL AS
  • 00:22:57.250 --> 00:22:58.150
  • A KID WAS WHERE MY SPORTS LOVE
  • 00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:00.050
  • I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO BE A
  • 00:23:03.190 --> 00:23:05.060
  • PROFESSIONAL -- AT LEAST,
  • 00:23:05.060 --> 00:23:06.230
  • WHEN I STARTED MY
  • 00:23:06.230 --> 00:23:07.290
  • ATHLETIC CAREER,
  • 00:23:07.290 --> 00:23:08.200
  • I REALIZED THAT WASN'T GONNA
  • 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:09.110
  • HAPPEN.
  • 00:23:09.110 --> 00:23:10.260
  • SO THE NEXT BEST THING WAS
  • 00:23:10.260 --> 00:23:11.150
  • TO GO AND BROADCAST,
  • 00:23:11.150 --> 00:23:12.240
  • AND TALK ABOUT SPORTS, AND
  • 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:13.290
  • AND THAT'S WHERE THAT LOVE FOR
  • 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:16.140
  • SPORTS CAME FROM.
  • 00:23:16.140 --> 00:23:18.010
  • AND TO BEING ABLE TO GET A JOB
  • 00:23:18.010 --> 00:23:18.220
  • AT ESPN WAS
  • 00:23:18.220 --> 00:23:19.060
  • EXACTLY WHAT I TELL PEOPLE --
  • 00:23:19.060 --> 00:23:20.250
  • IT WAS A DREAM JOB.
  • 00:23:20.250 --> 00:23:22.020
  • AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK THERE
  • 00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:23.150
  • FOR A LONG TIME, AND BE ABLE TO
  • 00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:25.000
  • TALK SPORTS AND PRODUCE SPORTS,
  • 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:26.070
  • AND GET TO MEET PEOPLE LIKE
  • 00:23:26.070 --> 00:23:28.060
  • HIM, AND DO THAT ON A DAILY
  • 00:23:28.060 --> 00:23:29.140
  • BASIS, YOU'RE A KID IN A CANDY
  • 00:23:29.140 --> 00:23:30.060
  • STORE.
  • 00:23:30.060 --> 00:23:31.200
  • IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
  • 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:32.080
  • I REALLY ENJOYED IT.
  • 00:23:32.080 --> 00:23:33.210
  • YEAH.
  • 00:23:33.210 --> 00:23:34.060
  • - CLIFTON: OH, THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:35.140
  • BUT THAT-- THAT WASN'T THE
  • 00:23:35.140 --> 00:23:37.180
  • WHOLE CIRCLE OF YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:23:37.180 --> 00:23:38.090
  • DURING THE ARC OF YOUR LIFE --
  • 00:23:38.090 --> 00:23:40.000
  • TO BRING IT BACK TO OUR
  • 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.000
  • THEME -- YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH
  • 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.240
  • SOME DYSFUNCTION, AS DARRYL
  • 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:46.130
  • CALLED IT, AT HOME.
  • 00:23:46.130 --> 00:23:48.160
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.010
  • - CLIFTON: UH, TELL US ABOUT
  • 00:23:50.010 --> 00:23:50.220
  • THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR
  • 00:23:50.220 --> 00:23:51.120
  • FATHER.
  • 00:23:51.120 --> 00:23:53.020
  • - JASON: YEAH -- SO, I GREW
  • 00:23:53.020 --> 00:23:55.250
  • UP, UH PARENTS, UPSTATE NEW
  • 00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:56.150
  • YORK, ALBANY AREA.
  • 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:58.190
  • UH, HUGE SPORTS FAN, LIKE I
  • 00:23:58.190 --> 00:23:59.090
  • SAID.
  • 00:23:59.090 --> 00:23:59.190
  • PARENTS DIVORCED WHEN I WAS 6.
  • 00:23:59.190 --> 00:24:00.180
  • UM, SO, IT WAS PART OF A BROKEN
  • 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:04.120
  • HOME FROM AN EARLY AGE.
  • 00:24:04.120 --> 00:24:06.130
  • AND MY DAD WAS, UH, AN
  • 00:24:06.140 --> 00:24:09.140
  • ALCOHOLIC, EARLY IN OUR LIVES,
  • 00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:11.290
  • AS KIDS.
  • 00:24:11.290 --> 00:24:14.030
  • YOU KNOW, WITH MY DAD, IT WAS A
  • 00:24:14.030 --> 00:24:16.040
  • CONFUSING RELATIONSHIP, AS I
  • 00:24:16.040 --> 00:24:17.280
  • LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
  • 00:24:17.280 --> 00:24:19.050
  • - CLIFTON: MMH.
  • 00:24:19.050 --> 00:24:20.050
  • - JASON: BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE
  • 00:24:20.050 --> 00:24:21.120
  • WOULD TAKE US TO THE BAR
  • 00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:22.200
  • AND...HE'D GIVE US A QUARTER,
  • 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:24.120
  • AND BUY US A SODA, AND GO PLAY
  • 00:24:24.120 --> 00:24:26.150
  • PINBALL.
  • 00:24:26.150 --> 00:24:27.220
  • THAT'S COOL FOR A 6-YEAR-OLD OR
  • 00:24:27.220 --> 00:24:29.240
  • A 7-YEAR-OLD KID TO DO THAT.
  • 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.160
  • YOU'RE LIKE: "THANKS, DAD!
  • 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:32.080
  • LET'S GO PLAY SOME PINBALL."
  • 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:34.200
  • BUT YOU REALIZE, WHILE WE WERE
  • 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.020
  • DOING THAT, HE'S UP AT THE BAR
  • 00:24:36.020 --> 00:24:36.270
  • GETTING WASTED.
  • 00:24:36.270 --> 00:24:38.070
  • - CLIFTON: OH, WOW.
  • 00:24:38.070 --> 00:24:39.030
  • - JASON: AND, AT 6, 7, 8 YEARS
  • 00:24:39.030 --> 00:24:40.150
  • OLD, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW
  • 00:24:40.150 --> 00:24:42.040
  • WHAT'S GOING ON.
  • 00:24:42.040 --> 00:24:43.120
  • BUT AS YOU START TO GET A
  • 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:44.250
  • LITTLE BIT OLDER, YOU REALIZE:
  • 00:24:44.250 --> 00:24:45.270
  • THIS IS NOT NORMAL AND THERE'S
  • 00:24:45.270 --> 00:24:47.250
  • SOME THINGS THAT ARE REALLY
  • 00:24:47.250 --> 00:24:48.210
  • SERIOUSLY WRONG HERE.
  • 00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:50.060
  • AND IT JUST PERIODICALLY GOT
  • 00:24:50.060 --> 00:24:51.050
  • WORSE, AS I GOT OLDER.
  • 00:24:51.050 --> 00:24:52.290
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...WHAT WAS YOUR
  • 00:24:52.290 --> 00:24:54.190
  • CONNECTION WITH YOUR FATHER AND
  • 00:24:54.190 --> 00:24:55.240
  • SPORTS?
  • 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:56.130
  • - JASON: I MEAN, THAT'S
  • 00:24:56.130 --> 00:24:57.200
  • REALLY-- MY FATHER AND HIS
  • 00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:58.280
  • FATHER -- MY GRANDFATHER --
  • 00:24:58.280 --> 00:25:00.050
  • GEORGE ROMANO, WERE THE TWO
  • 00:25:00.050 --> 00:25:02.030
  • BIGGEST SPORTS FANS I KNEW.
  • 00:25:02.030 --> 00:25:03.280
  • AND I LOVED, UH, WATCHING
  • 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:05.020
  • GAMES.
  • 00:25:05.020 --> 00:25:06.180
  • AND I HAVE MEMORIES OF WATCHING
  • 00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:07.270
  • GAMES WITH THEM AS A KID --
  • 00:25:07.270 --> 00:25:08.220
  • GOOD MEMORIES...
  • 00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:09.060
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:25:09.060 --> 00:25:09.290
  • - JASON: ...UM, UNTIL I GOT
  • 00:25:09.290 --> 00:25:11.180
  • OLDER AND REALIZED THAT THOSE
  • 00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:13.090
  • GOOD MEMORIES-- I WANTED TO
  • 00:25:13.090 --> 00:25:15.040
  • WATCH SPORTS WITH MY DAD, NOT
  • 00:25:15.040 --> 00:25:16.000
  • MY DRUNK DAD.
  • 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.010
  • AND THAT WAS WHERE IT WAS-- IT
  • 00:25:17.010 --> 00:25:19.040
  • BECAME REALLY DIFFICULT.
  • 00:25:19.040 --> 00:25:20.160
  • BUT THAT LOVE OF SPORTS STEMMED
  • 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.160
  • FROM HIM.
  • 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:23.120
  • AND, HONESTLY, TODAY, STILL, AS
  • 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:24.040
  • THE RELATIONSHIP IS IN REPAIR
  • 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:26.250
  • MODE -- AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT
  • 00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:27.270
  • THAT -- HE AND I STILL HAVE
  • 00:25:27.270 --> 00:25:30.110
  • CONVERSATIONS ON THE PHONE AND
  • 00:25:30.110 --> 00:25:31.290
  • VERY RARELY DO WE GO BEYOND
  • 00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:33.110
  • SPORTS.
  • 00:25:33.110 --> 00:25:34.000
  • THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR ME.
  • 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.250
  • - CLIFTON: HOW DID YOUR
  • 00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:36.180
  • FATHER'S ADDICTION IMPACT YOU--
  • 00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.010
  • YOUR LIFE AND YOUR FAMILY?
  • 00:25:38.010 --> 00:25:40.200
  • - JASON: IT IMPACTED IT QUITE
  • 00:25:41.020 --> 00:25:44.020
  • A BIT, IN A GOOD WAY, WHICH IS
  • 00:25:44.020 --> 00:25:44.230
  • WEIRD TO SAY, BUT I-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:25:44.230 --> 00:25:46.130
  • I CHOSE NOT TO DRINK ALCOHOL...
  • 00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:49.220
  • FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE BECAUSE I
  • 00:25:49.220 --> 00:25:50.180
  • DIDN'T WANNA BECOME MY DAD.
  • 00:25:50.180 --> 00:25:51.180
  • I WAS SCARED.
  • 00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:52.200
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...
  • 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:53.280
  • - JASON: I WAS REALLY SCARED
  • 00:25:53.280 --> 00:25:54.190
  • TO BECOME WHAT HE HAD BECOME
  • 00:25:54.190 --> 00:25:56.100
  • BECAUSE OF ALCOHOL, SO I CHOSE
  • 00:25:56.100 --> 00:25:57.250
  • NOT TO DRINK.
  • 00:25:57.250 --> 00:25:59.280
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE A
  • 00:25:59.280 --> 00:26:00.290
  • REAL REL-- LIKE A FAITH
  • 00:26:00.290 --> 00:26:02.100
  • RELATIONSHIP, OR A RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:26:02.100 --> 00:26:03.270
  • WITH THE LORD AT ALL, UNTIL
  • 00:26:03.270 --> 00:26:04.290
  • LATER.
  • 00:26:04.290 --> 00:26:05.150
  • SO, EVEN AT A YOUNG AGE, BEFORE
  • 00:26:05.150 --> 00:26:07.030
  • I HAD A REAL SENSE OF WHO GOD
  • 00:26:07.050 --> 00:26:10.050
  • WAS, I STILL FELT LIKE I CANNOT
  • 00:26:10.050 --> 00:26:12.110
  • DRINK OR ELSE THIS IS GONNA
  • 00:26:12.110 --> 00:26:15.080
  • TURN OUT REALLY BAD.
  • 00:26:16.220 --> 00:26:19.220
  • BUT AS I GOT OLDER-- AND THE
  • 00:26:19.220 --> 00:26:20.230
  • REAL TOUGH PART OF THE
  • 00:26:20.230 --> 00:26:21.150
  • RELATIONSHIP WAS, AS I TALK
  • 00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:23.120
  • ABOUT IN MY BOOK, THE PILLAR
  • 00:26:23.120 --> 00:26:24.170
  • MOMENTS -- YOU KNOW, HIGH
  • 00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:26.010
  • SCHOOL GRADUATION, COLLEGE
  • 00:26:26.010 --> 00:26:27.170
  • GRADUATION, EVEN MARRYING MY
  • 00:26:27.170 --> 00:26:28.130
  • WIFE, DAWN.
  • 00:26:28.130 --> 00:26:30.170
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT HAPPENED IN
  • 00:26:30.170 --> 00:26:31.080
  • THOSE MOMENTS?
  • 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:31.270
  • - JASON: MY DAD WASN'T THERE.
  • 00:26:31.270 --> 00:26:32.190
  • THAT WAS THE THING.
  • 00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:33.140
  • HE WAS IN A REHAB CENTER OR
  • 00:26:33.140 --> 00:26:35.160
  • JUST HAVING A REAL BAD SPELL
  • 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:36.240
  • WITH ALCOHOL.
  • 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.020
  • AND HE JUST WASN'T AROUND.
  • 00:26:38.020 --> 00:26:39.170
  • I SAY HE WAS AROUND, I SHOULD
  • 00:26:39.170 --> 00:26:41.060
  • SAY, BUT HE WASN'T PRESENT...IN
  • 00:26:41.060 --> 00:26:42.180
  • MY LIFE.
  • 00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:43.180
  • AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE
  • 00:26:43.180 --> 00:26:44.090
  • WHEN YOU HAVE A DAD WHO'S
  • 00:26:44.090 --> 00:26:45.250
  • AROUND BUT HE'S NOT PRESENT.
  • 00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:47.140
  • AND THAT ALCOHOL WAS REALLY AT
  • 00:26:47.140 --> 00:26:48.100
  • THE ROOT OF IT ALL.
  • 00:26:48.100 --> 00:26:49.110
  • - CLIFTON: MMH.
  • 00:26:49.110 --> 00:26:50.080
  • SO, MY FATHER WAS AN ALCOHOLIC,
  • 00:26:50.100 --> 00:26:53.100
  • AS WELL.
  • 00:26:53.100 --> 00:26:55.010
  • HE WAS A CLOSET ALCOHOLIC.
  • 00:26:55.010 --> 00:26:57.250
  • - JASON: MMH.
  • 00:26:57.250 --> 00:26:58.250
  • - CLIFTON: LITERALLY, I...I
  • 00:26:58.250 --> 00:26:59.160
  • REMEMBER HE HAD A LOCKED CLOSET
  • 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.050
  • IN HIS OFFICE -- AND HE WAS A
  • 00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:02.140
  • PASTOR.
  • 00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:03.170
  • - CLIFTON: AND, UH WHEN I WAS
  • 00:27:08.260 --> 00:27:09.180
  • 18, FINALLY, SOMETHING SAID,
  • 00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:10.080
  • "OPEN THAT DOOR."
  • 00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:10.270
  • AND I FIGURED OUT HOW TO OPEN
  • 00:27:10.270 --> 00:27:11.180
  • THE DOOR.
  • 00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:11.290
  • 'CAUSE 18-YEAR-OLDS CAN GET
  • 00:27:11.290 --> 00:27:13.200
  • - JASON: THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:27:16.100 --> 00:27:17.050
  • - CLIFTON: AND WHEN I OPENED
  • 00:27:17.050 --> 00:27:17.260
  • THE DOOR, BOTTLES JUST
  • 00:27:17.260 --> 00:27:18.160
  • CASCADED...
  • 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.270
  • - JASON: JUST FELL OUT.
  • 00:27:20.270 --> 00:27:21.220
  • - CLIFTON: ...OUT OF THE
  • 00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:22.110
  • CLOSET.
  • 00:27:22.110 --> 00:27:25.030
  • AND THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD SIT
  • 00:27:25.030 --> 00:27:26.250
  • UP IN HIS OFFICE AT NIGHT--
  • 00:27:26.250 --> 00:27:27.150
  • INSTEAD OF STUDYING FOR A
  • 00:27:27.150 --> 00:27:28.040
  • SERMON, HE WAS GETTIN' WASTED.
  • 00:27:28.040 --> 00:27:30.220
  • - DARRYL AND JASON: MMH.
  • 00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:32.260
  • - CLIFTON: AND, UH...AND SO, I
  • 00:27:32.260 --> 00:27:33.290
  • COULDN'T REALLY SPEAK TO HIM
  • 00:27:33.290 --> 00:27:34.200
  • ABOUT IT...
  • 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:35.120
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:35.260
  • - CLIFTON: ...UNTIL YEARS
  • 00:27:35.260 --> 00:27:36.290
  • LATER, WHEN WE HELPED HIM GET A
  • 00:27:36.290 --> 00:27:38.140
  • NEW CADILLAC, AND, A WEEK AND A
  • 00:27:38.140 --> 00:27:41.020
  • HALF LATER, HE TOTALED IT.
  • 00:27:41.020 --> 00:27:42.150
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:43.140
  • - DARRYL: MMH.
  • 00:27:43.140 --> 00:27:44.130
  • - CLIFTON: DUI.
  • 00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:45.090
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:27:45.090 --> 00:27:46.160
  • - CLIFTON: INSURANCE GOT HIM
  • 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.070
  • ANOTHER ONE.
  • 00:27:47.070 --> 00:27:48.160
  • AND -- DON'T YOU KNOW -- A
  • 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.220
  • MONTH LATER, HE TOTALED THAT
  • 00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:51.130
  • ONE, TOO, WITH A DUI?
  • 00:27:51.130 --> 00:27:53.020
  • - DARRYL: MMH.
  • 00:27:53.020 --> 00:27:54.090
  • - CLIFTON: AND SO, THEN, THE
  • 00:27:54.090 --> 00:27:55.000
  • WORLD BEGAN TO KNOW THAT HE HAD
  • 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.120
  • A PROBLEM -- 'CAUSE HE HAD TO
  • 00:27:56.120 --> 00:27:57.140
  • GO TO JAIL.
  • 00:27:57.140 --> 00:27:57.290
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:27:57.290 --> 00:27:59.150
  • - CLIFTON: AND, UH...AND SO, I
  • 00:27:59.150 --> 00:28:00.200
  • CAN RELATE TO YOUR STORY.
  • 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.040
  • - JASON: SURE.
  • 00:28:02.040 --> 00:28:03.100
  • - CLIFTON: AND SO, WHAT I'M
  • 00:28:03.100 --> 00:28:04.200
  • ASKING IS -- HOW DID IT MAKE
  • 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.190
  • YOU FEEL WHEN HE MISSED YOUR
  • 00:28:06.190 --> 00:28:07.140
  • WEDDING AND YOUR CHILD'S BIRTH
  • 00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:08.250
  • AND ALL OF THAT?
  • 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:10.020
  • HOW DID THAT-- WHAT HAPPENED TO
  • 00:28:10.020 --> 00:28:11.050
  • YOU?
  • 00:28:11.050 --> 00:28:13.030
  • - JASON: YOU KNOW, IN THOSE
  • 00:28:13.030 --> 00:28:15.160
  • YOUNGER AGES, EVEN, LIKE, HIGH
  • 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:16.220
  • SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, I THINK I
  • 00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:17.290
  • BY THE TIME I WAS IN MY 20S AND
  • 00:28:20.210 --> 00:28:21.130
  • HEADING TOWARDS 30, AND
  • 00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:23.270
  • BECOMING A HUSBAND AND A DAD, I
  • 00:28:23.270 --> 00:28:25.170
  • HAD KIND OF...JUST...PUT A
  • 00:28:25.170 --> 00:28:27.280
  • FENCE UP, A WALL UP, IN MY
  • 00:28:27.280 --> 00:28:29.270
  • LIFE, WITH HIM.
  • 00:28:29.270 --> 00:28:32.110
  • AND IT WASN'T UNEXPECTED, AS
  • 00:28:32.110 --> 00:28:33.010
  • SAD AS THAT SOUNDS.
  • 00:28:33.010 --> 00:28:34.000
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:34.150
  • - JASON: THERE WAS DEFINITELY
  • 00:28:34.150 --> 00:28:35.130
  • A VOID AND THERE WAS DEFINITELY
  • 00:28:35.130 --> 00:28:36.060
  • BUT I HAD KINDA MOVED ON AT
  • 00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:40.090
  • THAT POINT IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:28:40.090 --> 00:28:40.260
  • I SAID: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:28:40.260 --> 00:28:41.130
  • I'M GOING TO MOVE ON AND DO THE
  • 00:28:41.130 --> 00:28:42.050
  • BEST THAT I CAN IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:28:42.050 --> 00:28:44.140
  • I HAVE A LIFE TO LIVE.
  • 00:28:44.140 --> 00:28:45.020
  • BUT A LOT WENT INTO HIM NOT
  • 00:28:45.020 --> 00:28:47.100
  • BEING INVITED TO
  • 00:28:47.100 --> 00:28:49.080
  • OUR WEDDING,
  • 00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:49.230
  • AND, CERTAINLY, EVEN,
  • 00:28:49.230 --> 00:28:51.070
  • NOT COMING TO THE BIRTH
  • 00:28:51.070 --> 00:28:52.270
  • OF OUR DAUGHTER BEING BORN.
  • 00:28:52.270 --> 00:28:53.170
  • YOU KNOW, HE WAS IN A REHAB.
  • 00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:54.110
  • AND IT WAS SAD.
  • 00:28:54.110 --> 00:28:55.150
  • I REALLY WANTED HIM-- EVERYBODY
  • 00:28:55.150 --> 00:28:56.240
  • WANTS THEIR DAD TO BE A PART OF
  • 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.000
  • THEIR LIVES--
  • 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:59.010
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:28:59.010 --> 00:28:59.210
  • - JASON: --IN ALL OF THE BIG
  • 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:00.230
  • MOMENTS THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
  • 00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:01.260
  • AND SO, LOOKING BACK, YOU
  • 00:29:01.260 --> 00:29:03.290
  • REALIZE IT WAS A BIG VOID.
  • 00:29:03.290 --> 00:29:05.130
  • UM, BUT WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH
  • 00:29:05.130 --> 00:29:06.230
  • IT, YOU JUST KIND OF-- YOU GOT
  • 00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:07.240
  • LIFE TO LIVE.
  • 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:08.290
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:29:08.290 --> 00:29:09.130
  • AND YOU'RE JUST KIND OF MOVING
  • 00:29:09.130 --> 00:29:10.260
  • THROUGH IT AS BEST AS YOU CAN.
  • 00:29:10.260 --> 00:29:11.240
  • - CLIFTON: AND SO, GETTING
  • 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.070
  • INVOLVED IN YOUR OWN LIFE WAS
  • 00:29:13.070 --> 00:29:15.040
  • YOUR MEANS OF COPING?
  • 00:29:15.040 --> 00:29:17.010
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:29:17.010 --> 00:29:18.080
  • THAT WAS A LOT OF IT.
  • 00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:20.230
  • UM, YOU KNOW, I-I-- MY MOM --
  • 00:29:20.230 --> 00:29:22.080
  • KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU SAID
  • 00:29:22.080 --> 00:29:23.070
  • ABOUT YOUR MOM -- SHE SAVED ME
  • 00:29:23.070 --> 00:29:24.070
  • AND SHE SAVED MY TWO BROTHERS,
  • 00:29:24.070 --> 00:29:25.100
  • AND KEPT US ON THE STRAIGHT AND
  • 00:29:25.100 --> 00:29:26.160
  • NARROW, AND ALLOWED US TO DREAM
  • 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.010
  • AND ALLOWED US TO PURSUE THOSE
  • 00:29:28.010 --> 00:29:29.080
  • DREAMS.
  • 00:29:29.080 --> 00:29:31.260
  • AND THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT
  • 00:29:31.260 --> 00:29:32.240
  • OPPORTUNITY, I WAS ABLE TO GO
  • 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.030
  • TO COLLEGE AND GO FOR THE-- THE
  • 00:29:34.030 --> 00:29:35.150
  • CAREER THAT I WANTED TO GO
  • 00:29:35.150 --> 00:29:37.110
  • AFTER.
  • 00:29:37.110 --> 00:29:37.240
  • AND DOING ALL OF THAT IS WHAT
  • 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.140
  • HELPED ME KINDA...JUST IGNORE,
  • 00:29:39.140 --> 00:29:42.000
  • I GUESS, IN A LOT OF WAYS, OR
  • 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:43.080
  • DEAL WITH WHAT WAS HAPPENING
  • 00:29:43.080 --> 00:29:44.190
  • WITH MY DAD.
  • 00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:45.040
  • I WAS GOING AFTER MY CAREER AND
  • 00:29:45.040 --> 00:29:46.190
  • TRYING TO PURSUE THE SUCCESS
  • 00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:48.040
  • AND THE DRIVE TO BECOME
  • 00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:50.100
  • SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS
  • 00:29:50.100 --> 00:29:51.170
  • BIGGER THAN MYSELF AND
  • 00:29:51.170 --> 00:29:52.210
  • SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE HIM
  • 00:29:52.210 --> 00:29:54.020
  • PROUD IN MANY WAYS.
  • 00:29:54.020 --> 00:29:55.050
  • - CLIFTON: DID IT MAKE YOU
  • 00:29:55.050 --> 00:29:56.190
  • ALSO WANNA FIND A WAY TO FIGHT
  • 00:29:56.190 --> 00:29:57.280
  • ADDICTIONS?
  • 00:29:57.280 --> 00:29:58.200
  • - JASON: YEAH!
  • 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.010
  • IT REALLY DID.
  • 00:30:00.010 --> 00:30:01.170
  • I MEAN, I-- IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE
  • 00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:02.170
  • I REMEMBER BEING IN COLLEGE AND
  • 00:30:02.170 --> 00:30:03.230
  • SEEING, UH, YOU KNOW, MY
  • 00:30:03.230 --> 00:30:05.140
  • FRIENDS DRINKING AND HAVING
  • 00:30:05.140 --> 00:30:06.210
  • PARTIES.
  • 00:30:06.210 --> 00:30:07.290
  • AND THAT'S KINDA JUST WHAT
  • 00:30:07.290 --> 00:30:08.280
  • COLLEGE KIDS DO, RIGHT?
  • 00:30:08.280 --> 00:30:09.160
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:10.080
  • - JASON: AND I WAS THE ONLY
  • 00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:10.290
  • ONE NOT HAVING ANY ALCOHOL.
  • 00:30:10.290 --> 00:30:12.070
  • UM...AND, YOU DON'T REALIZE IT,
  • 00:30:12.070 --> 00:30:14.120
  • WHEN YOU'RE 18, YOU'RE THE GUY
  • 00:30:14.120 --> 00:30:15.150
  • BEING MADE FUN OF.
  • 00:30:15.150 --> 00:30:16.270
  • BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET INTO
  • 00:30:16.270 --> 00:30:18.020
  • YOUR 20S AND 30S, YOU REALIZE
  • 00:30:18.020 --> 00:30:19.120
  • THERE'S AN EXAMPLE THERE THAT
  • 00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:21.140
  • YOU CAN-- YOU CAN SET.
  • 00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:22.130
  • AND, FOR MANY PEOPLE, WHEN I
  • 00:30:22.130 --> 00:30:24.030
  • WOULD TELL THEM I DON'T DRINK,
  • 00:30:24.030 --> 00:30:25.140
  • IT USUALLY ENTERED INTO A
  • 00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:26.170
  • QUESTION OF WHY.
  • 00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:28.010
  • AND THAT ALLOWED ME TO TALK
  • 00:30:28.010 --> 00:30:29.050
  • ABOUT ADDICTION.
  • 00:30:29.050 --> 00:30:30.040
  • I DIDN'T TALK A LOT ABOUT MY
  • 00:30:30.040 --> 00:30:30.240
  • DAD...
  • 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:31.120
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:30:31.120 --> 00:30:32.260
  • - JASON: ...BUT IT ALLOWED ME
  • 00:30:32.260 --> 00:30:33.240
  • TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO
  • 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.220
  • SAY, "YEAH, THE DRINKING IS ALL
  • 00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:36.190
  • FUN AND GAMES, BUT, THERE'S
  • 00:30:36.190 --> 00:30:37.150
  • SOME SERIOUS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:30:37.150 --> 00:30:38.220
  • REPERCUSSIONS FOR THIS IF YOU
  • 00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:39.240
  • GO TOO FAR."
  • 00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:40.110
  • - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
  • 00:30:40.110 --> 00:30:41.100
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:30:41.100 --> 00:30:41.280
  • - JASON: SO...
  • 00:30:41.280 --> 00:30:42.290
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, SPEAKING IN
  • 00:30:42.290 --> 00:30:43.200
  • THE TERMS OF DOING SOMETHING TO
  • 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.100
  • HELP SOMEBODY...
  • 00:30:45.100 --> 00:30:47.120
  • - JASON: SURE.
  • 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:47.270
  • - CLIFTON: ...DARRYL, YOU
  • 00:30:47.270 --> 00:30:50.250
  • OPENED A FOUNDATION THAT WOULD
  • 00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:51.250
  • MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUNG
  • 00:30:51.250 --> 00:30:53.000
  • LIVES.
  • 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:53.150
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:30:53.150 --> 00:30:54.000
  • - CLIFTON: TALK A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.130
  • ABOUT THAT FOUNDATION.
  • 00:30:55.130 --> 00:30:56.020
  • - DARRYL: WELL, ME AND MY WIFE
  • 00:30:56.020 --> 00:30:57.150
  • WE CAME FROM ADDICTION
  • 00:30:59.210 --> 00:31:00.110
  • AND SHE HAS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:31:00.110 --> 00:31:02.090
  • OVER 18 YEARS IN RECOVERY AND I
  • 00:31:02.090 --> 00:31:03.210
  • HAVE 16.
  • 00:31:03.210 --> 00:31:05.050
  • AND, UM, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO
  • 00:31:05.050 --> 00:31:07.040
  • WAS START HELPING ACROSS
  • 00:31:07.040 --> 00:31:08.210
  • AMERICA, ACROSS THE GLOBE.
  • 00:31:08.210 --> 00:31:10.020
  • THIS IS NOT ABOUT A POLITICAL--
  • 00:31:10.020 --> 00:31:11.260
  • BEING POLITICALLY
  • 00:31:11.260 --> 00:31:14.040
  • CORRECT.
  • 00:31:14.040 --> 00:31:15.170
  • THIS IS A BROKENNESS ACROSS
  • 00:31:18.140 --> 00:31:19.040
  • AMERICA, UH, WITH YOUNG PEOPLE
  • 00:31:19.040 --> 00:31:20.080
  • WHO ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS,
  • 00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:21.070
  • TODAY.
  • 00:31:21.070 --> 00:31:22.200
  • SO, I GO INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS
  • 00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:25.250
  • AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND I GO IN
  • 00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:26.170
  • AND SHARE TO THE KIDS AND TRY
  • 00:31:26.170 --> 00:31:28.100
  • TO BRING AWARENESS ABOUT:
  • 00:31:28.100 --> 00:31:30.090
  • DON'T DO DRUGS.
  • 00:31:30.090 --> 00:31:30.250
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:31.110
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, DON'T--
  • 00:31:31.110 --> 00:31:32.260
  • YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S TALKIN'
  • 00:31:32.260 --> 00:31:34.180
  • ABOUT MARIJUANA'S NOT A DRUG.
  • 00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:35.090
  • YES, IT IS.
  • 00:31:35.090 --> 00:31:35.210
  • IT'S GONNA ALTER THEIR MIND.
  • 00:31:35.210 --> 00:31:36.110
  • IT'S GONNA CHANGE THEIR MIND.
  • 00:31:36.110 --> 00:31:38.000
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:38.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.160
  • FOR US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN
  • 00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:45.240
  • YOUNG PEOPLE'S LIVES OR
  • 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.090
  • PEOPLE'S LIVES PERIOD THAT ARE
  • 00:31:47.090 --> 00:31:48.180
  • ADDICTED, UM, WE HAVE TO BE
  • 00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:50.160
  • REAL ABOUT IT.
  • 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.160
  • YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SIT HERE AND
  • 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:53.250
  • SUGARCOAT IT.
  • 00:31:53.250 --> 00:31:54.280
  • AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT WHERE
  • 00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:58.170
  • WE'RE AT TODAY, THE EPIDEMIC
  • 00:31:58.170 --> 00:31:59.070
  • WE'RE AT TODAY.
  • 00:31:59.070 --> 00:32:00.260
  • NEW JERSEY'S ALREADY HAD 300
  • 00:32:00.260 --> 00:32:01.220
  • DEATHS OF OVERDOSE FROM OPIATE.
  • 00:32:01.220 --> 00:32:03.240
  • - CLIFTON: MMH-MMH-MMH...
  • 00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.030
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:32:05.030 --> 00:32:05.210
  • I GET A PHONE CALL EVERY DAY
  • 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:06.110
  • ABOUT SOMEONE DYING: "WHAT DO I
  • 00:32:06.110 --> 00:32:07.040
  • DO?"
  • 00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:09.090
  • AND I SAID-- YOU KNOW, THEY HAD
  • 00:32:09.090 --> 00:32:11.150
  • ME, WANTED ME TO DO-- BE
  • 00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:13.030
  • INVOLVED WITH, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:32:13.030 --> 00:32:14.000
  • POLITICAL PEOPLE.
  • 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:14.240
  • SO, I SAID, "NO -- THIS IS
  • 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:15.210
  • ABOUT FAITH, THIS IS ABOUT GOD,
  • 00:32:15.210 --> 00:32:18.200
  • THIS IS ABOUT GETTING PROGRAMS
  • 00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.150
  • THAT'S GONNA TEACH BIBLICAL
  • 00:32:20.150 --> 00:32:22.050
  • PRINCIPLES.
  • 00:32:22.050 --> 00:32:22.190
  • - JASON: YES.
  • 00:32:22.190 --> 00:32:23.040
  • - DARRYL: IF YOU DON'T WANNA
  • 00:32:23.040 --> 00:32:24.040
  • TEACH BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, I
  • 00:32:24.040 --> 00:32:25.110
  • DON'T REALLY WANNA BE A PART OF
  • 00:32:25.110 --> 00:32:26.030
  • IT.
  • 00:32:26.030 --> 00:32:26.170
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:32:26.170 --> 00:32:28.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:28.030 --> 00:32:28.210
  • I'VE ALREADY--
  • 00:32:29.260 --> 00:32:32.260
  • I'VE ALREADY...
  • 00:32:32.260 --> 00:32:35.100
  • ....I'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED IT
  • 00:32:35.100 --> 00:32:36.020
  • ON THE-- I'VE ALREADY
  • 00:32:36.020 --> 00:32:37.190
  • EXPERIENCED IT ON THE NATURAL
  • 00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:38.100
  • SIDE, AND, YOU KNOW, NOTHIN'
  • 00:32:38.100 --> 00:32:39.000
  • WRONG WITH THAT.
  • 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:39.270
  • YOU KNOW, NATURAL-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:32:39.270 --> 00:32:40.250
  • 12-STEP PROGRAMS ARE GREAT.
  • 00:32:40.250 --> 00:32:41.160
  • BUT, WE AT A TIME WHERE YOU
  • 00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:42.120
  • NEED BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, YOU
  • 00:32:42.120 --> 00:32:43.050
  • KNOW?
  • 00:32:43.050 --> 00:32:44.020
  • IF YOU WANT LIVES SAVED, JESUS
  • 00:32:44.020 --> 00:32:44.230
  • IS THE ONLY ONE GONNA SAVE
  • 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:45.270
  • THOSE LIVES.
  • 00:32:45.270 --> 00:32:46.240
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:47.180
  • - DARRYL: IT'S NOT A MAN, IT'S
  • 00:32:47.180 --> 00:32:48.140
  • NOT A 12-STEP, IT'S NOT A
  • 00:32:48.140 --> 00:32:49.140
  • PROGRAM.
  • 00:32:49.140 --> 00:32:52.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:52.100 --> 00:32:53.280
  • SO MANY COME IN AND STRADDLE
  • 00:32:53.280 --> 00:32:55.040
  • THE FENCE AND--
  • 00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:56.190
  • AND GO BACK OUT AND THEY WONDER
  • 00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:57.110
  • WHY THEY GO BACK OUT.
  • 00:32:57.110 --> 00:32:59.120
  • BECAUSE YOU-- YOU CAN'T BE WELL
  • 00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:00.200
  • ON THE INSIDE UNTIL JESUS HEAL
  • 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.180
  • YOU.
  • 00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:04.230
  • YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KEEP TRYIN'
  • 00:33:04.230 --> 00:33:05.140
  • EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOU LOOK
  • 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:06.040
  • GOOD ON THE OUTSIDE AND DRESS
  • 00:33:06.040 --> 00:33:06.250
  • UP ON THE OUTSIDE.
  • 00:33:06.250 --> 00:33:07.160
  • SO, I SUCH A PASSION AND SUCH
  • 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.090
  • AN URGENCY GETTIN' UP EVERY
  • 00:33:10.090 --> 00:33:12.040
  • DAY, UH, DOIN' WHAT CHRIST DID
  • 00:33:12.040 --> 00:33:13.240
  • 2.000 YEARS AGO.
  • 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.000
  • WHAT DID JESUS DO...WHEN WE
  • 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.000
  • REALLY THINK ABOUT IT?
  • 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:18.230
  • WHAT DID JESUS DO?
  • 00:33:18.230 --> 00:33:19.190
  • ALL JESUS DID WAS LOVE PEOPLE.
  • 00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:21.140
  • WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET BACK TO
  • 00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:24.040
  • THAT?
  • 00:33:24.040 --> 00:33:25.070
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:33:25.070 --> 00:33:27.070
  • THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:33:27.070 --> 00:33:27.290
  • BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE IS
  • 00:33:27.290 --> 00:33:28.180
  • LOVIN' 'EM.
  • 00:33:28.180 --> 00:33:30.240
  • I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE
  • 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.110
  • BLACK, WHITE, BLUE --
  • 00:33:31.110 --> 00:33:31.280
  • THAT DON'T MATTER.
  • 00:33:31.280 --> 00:33:32.140
  • WHEN HE HUNG ON THAT CROSS, HE
  • 00:33:32.140 --> 00:33:34.080
  • HUNG ON THAT CROSS FOR
  • 00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:35.200
  • EVERYBODY.
  • 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:36.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:33:36.030 --> 00:33:37.170
  • SO, THAT'S WHAT WE...
  • 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.160
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:42.160
  • THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO COME TO
  • 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:43.240
  • AS PEOPLE.
  • 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:44.270
  • WE HAVE TO COME TO THAT PLACE
  • 00:33:44.270 --> 00:33:46.100
  • WHERE WE LEARN-- LEARN TO LOVE
  • 00:33:46.100 --> 00:33:48.010
  • PEOPLE AND MEET 'EM RIGHT WHERE
  • 00:33:48.010 --> 00:33:48.230
  • THEY AT.
  • 00:33:48.230 --> 00:33:50.090
  • AND YOU CAN'T HELP 'EM IF YOU
  • 00:33:50.090 --> 00:33:51.000
  • DON'T LOVE 'EM.
  • 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:51.140
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:52.070
  • - DARRYL: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO--
  • 00:33:52.070 --> 00:33:52.290
  • IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HELP PEOPLE
  • 00:33:52.290 --> 00:33:53.200
  • IF YOU SAY, "I WANNA HELP 'EM,
  • 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.160
  • BUT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THEIR
  • 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.160
  • PROBLEM."
  • 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:56.020
  • I CAN'T HELP 'EM IF I--
  • 00:33:56.020 --> 00:33:58.060
  • YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE-- WE
  • 00:33:58.060 --> 00:33:59.190
  • KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE.
  • 00:33:59.190 --> 00:34:02.020
  • BUT WHAT IS THE SOLUTION.
  • 00:34:02.020 --> 00:34:03.280
  • THE SOLUTION IS JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:34:03.280 --> 00:34:05.160
  • HIMSELF!
  • 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:06.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:34:08.170 --> 00:34:11.170
  • - CLIFTON: WELL...
  • 00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:13.220
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT, MAN.
  • 00:34:13.220 --> 00:34:14.110
  • - CLIFTON: ...HE...HE
  • 00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:15.090
  • CERTAINLY IS IN THE HEALING
  • 00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:15.290
  • BUSINESS.
  • 00:34:15.290 --> 00:34:16.100
  • I'M A WITNESS.
  • 00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:17.070
  • I'M ONE HIS PATIENTS--
  • 00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:19.080
  • - DARRYL: COME ON!
  • 00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:19.240
  • - CLIFTON: --WHO'S BEEN
  • 00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:21.270
  • HEALED.
  • 00:34:21.270 --> 00:34:22.130
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:34:22.130 --> 00:34:23.150
  • [DARRYL LAUGHS]
  • 00:34:23.150 --> 00:34:24.010
  • I SPOKE AT--
  • 00:34:24.010 --> 00:34:25.160
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:34:25.160 --> 00:34:26.080
  • I'VE SPOKEN AT MORE THAN...MORE
  • 00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:27.000
  • THAN 50 DIFFERENT COLLEGES,
  • 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:27.250
  • UNIVERSITIES.
  • 00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:30.180
  • AND I TALKED ABOUT MY PERSONAL
  • 00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:31.250
  • EXPERIENCE WITH ADDICTION IN
  • 00:34:31.250 --> 00:34:33.070
  • EACH OF THESE SCHOOLS.
  • 00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:35.080
  • AND I LET THEM KNOW, YES, YOU
  • 00:34:35.080 --> 00:34:36.210
  • HAVE TO FIRST ADMIT THAT YOU
  • 00:34:36.210 --> 00:34:38.220
  • HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU WANT TO
  • 00:34:38.220 --> 00:34:40.180
  • FIX THE PROBLEM.
  • 00:34:40.180 --> 00:34:41.260
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:42.110
  • - CLIFTON: AND THE OTHER THING
  • 00:34:42.110 --> 00:34:44.040
  • I SHARED WITH THEM WAS: I DON'T
  • 00:34:44.040 --> 00:34:45.100
  • KNOW WHAT MEANS YOU'RE USING,
  • 00:34:45.150 --> 00:34:48.150
  • BUT I TRIED THE DIVINE
  • 00:34:48.150 --> 00:34:49.020
  • ALTERNATIVE AND IT WORKED FOR
  • 00:34:49.020 --> 00:34:51.020
  • ME.
  • 00:34:51.020 --> 00:34:51.210
  • HIS NAME IS JESUS.
  • 00:34:51.210 --> 00:34:53.240
  • - DARRYL: COME ON.
  • 00:34:53.240 --> 00:34:54.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:34:54.210 --> 00:34:55.110
  • - CLIFTON: SO...
  • 00:34:55.110 --> 00:34:56.050
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:57.080
  • - CLIFTON: ...TELL US ABOUT
  • 00:34:57.080 --> 00:34:57.280
  • THE CLEAN, SOBER & SAVED
  • 00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.160
  • PROGRAM--
  • 00:34:59.160 --> 00:35:01.010
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:02.090
  • - CLIFTON: --THAT YOUR--
  • 00:35:02.090 --> 00:35:03.160
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:35:03.160 --> 00:35:04.000
  • - CLIFTON: --YOUR WIFE AND YOU
  • 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:04.220
  • PUT TOGETHER.
  • 00:35:04.220 --> 00:35:05.050
  • - DARRYL: WELL, IT'S A
  • 00:35:05.050 --> 00:35:05.230
  • CURRICULUM THAT MY WIFE, UH--
  • 00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:06.270
  • THE LORD DOWNLOADED IT IN HER.
  • 00:35:06.270 --> 00:35:08.190
  • IT'S A 12-STEP BIBLICAL
  • 00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:10.050
  • CURRICULUM ABOUT CLEAN, SOBER,
  • 00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:11.090
  • AND SAVED.
  • 00:35:11.090 --> 00:35:12.010
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:35:12.010 --> 00:35:13.070
  • YOU GET CLEAN, YOU GET SOBER,
  • 00:35:13.070 --> 00:35:14.160
  • BUT, YOU GOTTA GET THE SAVED
  • 00:35:14.160 --> 00:35:15.180
  • PART, TOO.
  • 00:35:17.070 --> 00:35:20.070
  • BECAUSE THE SAVED PART IS GOING
  • 00:35:20.070 --> 00:35:20.290
  • TO ENTER YOU AND IT'S GOING TO
  • 00:35:20.290 --> 00:35:21.200
  • USHER YOU INTO THE PURPOSE OF
  • 00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:22.110
  • CREATION.
  • 00:35:22.110 --> 00:35:22.220
  • SEE, WHEN YOU GET SAVED,
  • 00:35:22.220 --> 00:35:24.280
  • THERE'S A CREA-- THERE'S A
  • 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:25.170
  • GREAT REASON OF-- FOR YOU OF
  • 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:27.120
  • LIVING, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:35:27.120 --> 00:35:30.110
  • AND THAT'S WHAT THAT ROMANS
  • 00:35:30.110 --> 00:35:31.010
  • 8:28 TALKS ABOUT.
  • 00:35:31.010 --> 00:35:31.240
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:32.180
  • - DARRYL: IT SAYS: AND WE
  • 00:35:32.180 --> 00:35:33.070
  • KNOW...AND WE KNOW ALL THINGS
  • 00:35:33.070 --> 00:35:34.210
  • WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF
  • 00:35:34.210 --> 00:35:35.160
  • THEM WHO LOVE THE LORD THROUGH
  • 00:35:35.160 --> 00:35:36.130
  • THOSE CALLED ACCORDING TO HIS
  • 00:35:36.130 --> 00:35:37.080
  • PURPOSE.
  • 00:35:37.080 --> 00:35:38.040
  • SEE, NOW YOU START
  • 00:35:38.040 --> 00:35:39.180
  • UNDERSTANDING WHO YOU ARE WHEN
  • 00:35:39.180 --> 00:35:41.200
  • YOU GET SAVED, ON THE INSIDE,
  • 00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:43.050
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:44.180
  • 'CAUSE, IF YOU DON'T NEVER GET
  • 00:35:44.180 --> 00:35:47.060
  • SAVED, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA KNOW
  • 00:35:47.060 --> 00:35:47.270
  • WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:35:47.270 --> 00:35:48.230
  • YOU'RE STILL JUST GONNA FLOAT
  • 00:35:48.230 --> 00:35:49.140
  • AROUND HERE AND THINK:
  • 00:35:49.140 --> 00:35:50.150
  • WELL, YOU KNOW, I CAN BE
  • 00:35:50.150 --> 00:35:51.030
  • THE NEXT THIS, THE NEXT THAT,
  • 00:35:51.030 --> 00:35:51.280
  • THE NEXT THAT.
  • 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:52.160
  • AND-- WELL, HE'S THE KING, THIS
  • 00:35:52.160 --> 00:35:54.030
  • THE KING.
  • 00:35:54.030 --> 00:35:55.250
  • THERE'S ONLY ONE KING.
  • 00:35:55.250 --> 00:35:56.150
  • YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY
  • 00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:57.250
  • ONE KING...
  • 00:35:57.250 --> 00:35:58.160
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:35:58.160 --> 00:35:59.070
  • ...YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAY--
  • 00:35:59.070 --> 00:35:59.260
  • JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF.
  • 00:35:59.260 --> 00:36:00.260
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT, HE'S
  • 00:36:00.260 --> 00:36:01.170
  • KING.
  • 00:36:01.170 --> 00:36:01.260
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:02.180
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:36:02.180 --> 00:36:03.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:36:03.100 --> 00:36:04.030
  • - DARRYL: AND WHEN YOU...
  • 00:36:04.030 --> 00:36:04.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:36:04.220 --> 00:36:05.030
  • ...AND WHEN YOU...
  • 00:36:05.030 --> 00:36:05.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:36:05.190 --> 00:36:06.090
  • ...AND WHEN YOU COME TO THAT
  • 00:36:06.090 --> 00:36:07.220
  • PLACE OF KNOWING HIM, THEN, YOU
  • 00:36:07.220 --> 00:36:08.190
  • TRULY HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH
  • 00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:10.070
  • HIM...
  • 00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:11.050
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM
  • 00:36:11.050 --> 00:36:12.010
  • - DARRYL: ...AND HAD A-- NOT
  • 00:36:12.010 --> 00:36:13.110
  • A-- YOU'VE HAD A REAL
  • 00:36:13.110 --> 00:36:14.260
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
  • 00:36:14.260 --> 00:36:15.210
  • NOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THINGS
  • 00:36:15.210 --> 00:36:17.260
  • THAT-- THAT ARE...NOT JUST--
  • 00:36:18.060 --> 00:36:21.060
  • YOU'RE AN ORDINARY PERSON, BUT
  • 00:36:21.060 --> 00:36:22.290
  • YOU CAN DO EXTRAORDINARY THINGS
  • 00:36:22.290 --> 00:36:24.150
  • BECAUSE OF HIM.
  • 00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:25.170
  • - CLIFTON: YES.
  • 00:36:25.170 --> 00:36:26.050
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S
  • 00:36:26.050 --> 00:36:27.290
  • WHAT THE CURRICULUM
  • 00:36:27.290 --> 00:36:29.200
  • CLEAN, SOBER, SAVED IS --
  • 00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:30.250
  • IT'S TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WELL
  • 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:33.220
  • ON THE INSIDE.
  • 00:36:33.220 --> 00:36:34.050
  • YOU KNOW, WE FOCUS TOO MUCH ON
  • 00:36:34.050 --> 00:36:35.050
  • THE OUTSIDE OF WHAT A PERSON
  • 00:36:35.050 --> 00:36:35.270
  • LOOK LIKE.
  • 00:36:35.270 --> 00:36:36.290
  • WE NEVER FOCUS ON THE INSIDE.
  • 00:36:36.290 --> 00:36:37.260
  • AND THE REAL PROBLEM'S ON THE
  • 00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:39.000
  • INSIDE.
  • 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.210
  • AND IF WE CAN GET THEM TO GET
  • 00:36:40.210 --> 00:36:41.120
  • TO CLEAN, SOBER, AND THEN WE
  • 00:36:41.120 --> 00:36:42.270
  • CAN GET 'EM THE SAVED PART,
  • 00:36:42.270 --> 00:36:45.240
  • GET 'EM INTO THE BIBLICAL
  • 00:36:45.240 --> 00:36:47.040
  • PRINCIPLES, NOW THEY CAN LIVE
  • 00:36:47.040 --> 00:36:47.250
  • OUT THE PURPOSE...OF THEIR
  • 00:36:47.250 --> 00:36:48.150
  • - CLIFTON: YES.
  • 00:36:49.090 --> 00:36:50.010
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:36:50.010 --> 00:36:50.250
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:36:50.250 --> 00:36:51.290
  • DIDN'T ASK THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN
  • 00:36:51.290 --> 00:36:53.250
  • ADULTERY HOW SHE GOT INTO THAT
  • 00:36:53.250 --> 00:36:54.250
  • SITUATION.
  • 00:36:54.250 --> 00:36:55.200
  • UH, HE JUST ASKED, "DO YOU
  • 00:36:55.200 --> 00:36:57.230
  • WANNA BE MADE WHOLE?"
  • 00:36:57.230 --> 00:36:59.210
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:00.090
  • - CLIFTON: DO YOU WANNA GET
  • 00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:01.160
  • OUT?
  • 00:37:01.160 --> 00:37:02.180
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:37:02.180 --> 00:37:03.220
  • - CLIFTON: I DON'T NEED TO
  • 00:37:03.290 --> 00:37:06.290
  • HEAR THE DEEP AND DARK STORY OF
  • 00:37:06.290 --> 00:37:07.210
  • SOMEBODY'S...ROAD TO ADDICTION.
  • 00:37:07.270 --> 00:37:10.270
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:37:10.270 --> 00:37:11.140
  • - CLIFTON: I KNOW; I'VE BEEN
  • 00:37:11.140 --> 00:37:12.070
  • DOWN THAT ROAD.
  • 00:37:12.070 --> 00:37:12.290
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:37:12.290 --> 00:37:14.070
  • - CLIFTON: I JUST WANNA KNOW:
  • 00:37:14.070 --> 00:37:15.050
  • ARE YOU WILLING TO BE MADE
  • 00:37:15.050 --> 00:37:15.290
  • WHOLE?
  • 00:37:15.290 --> 00:37:16.240
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:37:16.240 --> 00:37:17.220
  • - CLIFTON: BECAUSE I OFFER
  • 00:37:17.220 --> 00:37:19.170
  • JESUS CHRIST AS A HEALER, AS,
  • 00:37:19.170 --> 00:37:21.120
  • UH...AS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  • 00:37:21.120 --> 00:37:24.080
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:37:24.080 --> 00:37:25.080
  • - CLIFTON: HIS BLOOD IS CLEAN.
  • 00:37:25.080 --> 00:37:26.000
  • IT CAN WASH US AND MAKE US
  • 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.010
  • WHOLE AGAIN.
  • 00:37:28.010 --> 00:37:29.040
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, WELL, YOU
  • 00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:29.290
  • KNOW, THAT'S IT -- THAT'S SO
  • 00:37:29.290 --> 00:37:31.010
  • TRUE.
  • 00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:31.270
  • 'CAUSE, HE'S MORE THAN-- HE'S
  • 00:37:31.270 --> 00:37:33.090
  • MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT YOU
  • 00:37:33.090 --> 00:37:34.180
  • WILL EVER RECEIVE.
  • 00:37:34.180 --> 00:37:36.020
  • YOU KNOW, HE'S-- SEE, HE'S THE
  • 00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:38.020
  • ALPHA, HE'S THE OMEGA, THE
  • 00:37:38.020 --> 00:37:39.010
  • BEGINNING, THE END.
  • 00:37:39.010 --> 00:37:39.250
  • YOU KNOW, HE'S THE KING OF
  • 00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:40.220
  • KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, YOU
  • 00:37:40.220 --> 00:37:41.190
  • KNOW...
  • 00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:42.050
  • - CLIFTON: AMEN.
  • 00:37:42.050 --> 00:37:43.040
  • - DARRYL: ...AND ALL THOSE
  • 00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:43.240
  • THINGS, SO...
  • 00:37:43.240 --> 00:37:44.080
  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
  • 00:37:44.080 --> 00:37:44.240
  • HE'S MORE THAN-- HE'S MORE THAN
  • 00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:45.220
  • WE DESERVE!
  • 00:37:45.220 --> 00:37:46.140
  • - CLIFTON: YES, YES.
  • 00:37:46.140 --> 00:37:47.160
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU
  • 00:37:47.160 --> 00:37:48.070
  • COME--
  • 00:37:48.070 --> 00:37:48.220
  • - JASON: HE LIVED OUT WHAT
  • 00:37:48.220 --> 00:37:49.130
  • WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH.
  • 00:37:49.130 --> 00:37:50.110
  • HE'S LIVED IT HIMSELF.
  • 00:37:50.110 --> 00:37:51.000
  • - DARRYL: EXACTLY.
  • 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:51.160
  • - JASON: HE DIDN'T JUST SPEAK
  • 00:37:51.160 --> 00:37:52.080
  • IT; HE LIVED IT.
  • 00:37:52.080 --> 00:37:52.240
  • HE WALKED THIS EARTH AND WAS
  • 00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:53.270
  • BETRAYED, AND WAS BEATEN, AND
  • 00:37:53.270 --> 00:37:54.180
  • WAS--
  • 00:37:54.180 --> 00:37:55.200
  • - DARRYL: COME ON.
  • 00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:56.180
  • - JASON: --YOU KNOW, ALL THAT.
  • 00:37:56.240 --> 00:37:59.240
  • HE WALKED THROUGH US AND HE
  • 00:37:59.240 --> 00:38:00.160
  • WENT THROUGH IT...AND HE CAME
  • 00:38:00.160 --> 00:38:01.070
  • OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND STILL
  • 00:38:01.070 --> 00:38:01.290
  • WENT TO THE CROSS FOR US.
  • 00:38:01.290 --> 00:38:02.180
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:38:02.180 --> 00:38:03.030
  • COME ON.
  • 00:38:03.030 --> 00:38:03.130
  • - CLIFTON: AMEN.
  • 00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:03.280
  • - DARRYL: AMEN.
  • 00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:04.170
  • - JASON: AND THAT'S IT, MAN.
  • 00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:05.160
  • - CLIFTON: SOMEBODY APPLAUD
  • 00:38:05.160 --> 00:38:06.060
  • THAT, PLEASE.
  • 00:38:06.060 --> 00:38:06.210
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:38:09.200 --> 00:38:12.200
  • - DARRYL: EMBRACE IT.
  • 00:38:12.200 --> 00:38:13.070
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:38:13.070 --> 00:38:15.250
  • - CLIFTON: IT'S THE TRUTH,
  • 00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:16.150
  • ANYHOW.
  • 00:38:16.150 --> 00:38:16.250
  • - DARRYL: YES.
  • 00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:17.090
  • - CLIFTON: LET'S TALK ABOUT
  • 00:38:17.090 --> 00:38:17.290
  • FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:38:17.290 --> 00:38:18.110
  • BECAUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
  • 00:38:18.110 --> 00:38:19.190
  • ADDICTION, IF THE HEALING IS
  • 00:38:19.190 --> 00:38:22.050
  • GOING RIGHT, IS FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:38:22.050 --> 00:38:23.210
  • - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
  • 00:38:23.210 --> 00:38:24.190
  • - CLIFTON: FORGIVENESS IS
  • 00:38:24.190 --> 00:38:25.240
  • RELEASING SOMEBODY AND SETTING
  • 00:38:25.240 --> 00:38:27.250
  • THEM FREE FROM THE CONDEMNATION
  • 00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:28.290
  • OF SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE
  • 00:38:28.290 --> 00:38:30.240
  • BEFORE, WHILE LETTING THEM KNOW
  • 00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:32.170
  • IT'S PUT BEHIND US.
  • 00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:34.080
  • THAT'S WHAT FORGIVENESS REALLY
  • 00:38:34.080 --> 00:38:36.260
  • IS.
  • 00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:38.100
  • WHAT ARE SOME SIGNS THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:38:38.100 --> 00:38:39.290
  • LIVING WITH AN ADDICT WHO NEEDS
  • 00:38:39.290 --> 00:38:41.160
  • FORGIVENESS?
  • 00:38:41.160 --> 00:38:43.210
  • - JASON: OOFH...
  • 00:38:43.210 --> 00:38:44.270
  • I MEAN, I THINK, FOR MANY
  • 00:38:44.270 --> 00:38:46.200
  • YEARS, FOR MY DAD, I BECAME A
  • 00:38:46.200 --> 00:38:48.130
  • CHRISTIAN AND STARTED WALKING
  • 00:38:48.130 --> 00:38:49.250
  • I WAS 26.
  • 00:38:51.140 --> 00:38:52.060
  • AND FOR ABOUT 10, OR 11, OR 12,
  • 00:38:52.060 --> 00:38:53.150
  • OR 13 MORE YEARS, I STILL
  • 00:38:53.150 --> 00:38:54.190
  • HADN'T COME TO A PLACE WHERE I
  • 00:38:54.190 --> 00:38:57.140
  • COULD FORGIVE MY DAD.
  • 00:38:57.140 --> 00:38:58.280
  • I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD
  • 00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:59.280
  • FORGIVENESS WITH JESUS GOING TO
  • 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.160
  • THE CROSS AND FORGIVING MY SINS
  • 00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:02.260
  • EVERY DAY, AND I STILL COULDN'T
  • 00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:04.230
  • AND IT WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:39:08.150 --> 00:39:10.050
  • WAS ANGRY AT HIM.
  • 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:10.210
  • I WAS BITTER AT HIM.
  • 00:39:10.210 --> 00:39:11.190
  • AND, WHEN YOU LOOK IN EPHESIANS
  • 00:39:11.190 --> 00:39:13.060
  • 4, IT SAYS, "LET ALL
  • 00:39:13.060 --> 00:39:14.220
  • BITTERNESS...AND ANGER...AND
  • 00:39:14.220 --> 00:39:16.140
  • SLANDER BE PUT AWAY FROM YOU,
  • 00:39:16.140 --> 00:39:18.200
  • ALONG WITH ALL MALICE."
  • 00:39:18.200 --> 00:39:20.170
  • AND THEN, IT SAYS -- WHAT?
  • 00:39:20.170 --> 00:39:21.240
  • "...FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER AS
  • 00:39:21.240 --> 00:39:23.120
  • GOD IN CHRIST FORGAVE US."
  • 00:39:23.120 --> 00:39:24.160
  • FOR ME, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
  • 00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:26.010
  • BECAUSE I CAN FORGIVE ANYONE
  • 00:39:26.010 --> 00:39:28.000
  • WHO DID ANYTHING WRONG TO ME,
  • 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.240
  • BUT NOT WHEN IT CAME TO MY DAD.
  • 00:39:29.240 --> 00:39:32.070
  • THERE WAS A LOT OF DEEP-SEATED
  • 00:39:32.070 --> 00:39:32.280
  • PAIN IN THERE.
  • 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.190
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:35.040
  • - JASON: AND IT WAS VERY, VERY
  • 00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:35.260
  • HARD.
  • 00:39:35.260 --> 00:39:36.090
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE KEY FOR
  • 00:39:36.090 --> 00:39:37.000
  • ME WAS?
  • 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:38.210
  • WHEN I REALIZED THAT MY DAD, IN
  • 00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:41.180
  • THE EYES OF GOD, WAS THE SAME
  • 00:39:41.180 --> 00:39:43.110
  • PERSON AS I WAS AND THE SAME
  • 00:39:43.270 --> 00:39:46.270
  • PERSON THAT THIS EIGHT-TIME
  • 00:39:46.270 --> 00:39:48.180
  • ALL-STAR WAS, THE SAME PERSON
  • 00:39:48.180 --> 00:39:49.280
  • THAT THIS GUY ON TV WHEN I
  • 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.070
  • WATCHED HIM WHEN I WAS YOUNGER
  • 00:39:51.070 --> 00:39:52.240
  • -- WE'LL JUST SAY YOUNGER --
  • 00:39:52.240 --> 00:39:53.150
  • WAS.
  • 00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:54.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:39:54.150 --> 00:39:55.090
  • THE SAME PERSON IN THE EYES OF
  • 00:39:55.090 --> 00:39:56.190
  • GOD!
  • 00:39:56.190 --> 00:39:57.020
  • WE'RE ALL EQUAL.
  • 00:39:57.260 --> 00:40:00.260
  • AND TO LOOK AT MY DAD AND
  • 00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.150
  • REALIZE THAT-- FINALLY TO SEE
  • 00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:02.150
  • IT THROUGH THE LENS OF CHRIST,
  • 00:40:02.150 --> 00:40:03.070
  • HE NEEDED FORGIVENESS BECAUSE
  • 00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:05.120
  • HE WAS SEEN IN THE EYES OF GOD.
  • 00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:07.240
  • AND EVERY SINGLE DAY I WAKE UP
  • 00:40:07.240 --> 00:40:09.110
  • AND I ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS
  • 00:40:09.110 --> 00:40:10.170
  • AND YET I CAN'T EXUDE THAT
  • 00:40:10.170 --> 00:40:12.080
  • FORGIVENESS ON SOMEONE ELSE.
  • 00:40:12.080 --> 00:40:13.150
  • SOMETHIN'S WRONG THERE.
  • 00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:14.220
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:40:14.220 --> 00:40:15.070
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:40:15.070 --> 00:40:15.230
  • - JASON: SOMETHIN'S WRONG.
  • 00:40:15.230 --> 00:40:17.000
  • SO, THAT'S WHERE-- REALLY WHAT
  • 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:17.220
  • IT WAS ABOUT -- WAS SEEING IT
  • 00:40:17.220 --> 00:40:18.220
  • THROUGH THE LENS OF CHRIST.
  • 00:40:18.220 --> 00:40:19.190
  • - DARRYL: THAT'S...THAT'S
  • 00:40:19.190 --> 00:40:20.140
  • PRETTY POWERFUL.
  • 00:40:20.140 --> 00:40:21.180
  • 'CAUSE THAT'S GOOD, THOUGH,
  • 00:40:21.180 --> 00:40:22.080
  • 'CAUSE MINE'S WAS, LIKE,
  • 00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:24.080
  • TOTALLY THE OPPOSITE.
  • 00:40:24.080 --> 00:40:24.270
  • [JASON LAUGHS]
  • 00:40:24.270 --> 00:40:25.110
  • YOU KNOW, AND--
  • 00:40:25.110 --> 00:40:25.250
  • - CLIFTON: HOW'S THAT?
  • 00:40:25.250 --> 00:40:26.130
  • TELL US ABOUT IT.
  • 00:40:26.130 --> 00:40:26.280
  • - DARRYL: BECAUSE, UH, MY
  • 00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:27.170
  • FATHER HAD REJECTED ME AND BEAT
  • 00:40:27.170 --> 00:40:28.160
  • ME, AND I KEPT HIM OUT OF MY
  • 00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:30.270
  • LIFE AND MY WHOLE CAREER.
  • 00:40:30.270 --> 00:40:32.020
  • AND, HE DIDN'T GET TO BE A PART
  • 00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:33.180
  • OF NONE OF THAT, YOU KNOW --
  • 00:40:33.180 --> 00:40:35.270
  • JUST BITS AND PIECES, HERE,
  • 00:40:35.270 --> 00:40:37.040
  • BECAUSE MY WHOLE FAMILY, THE
  • 00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:38.250
  • REST OF 'EM, WERE A BIG PART OF
  • 00:40:38.250 --> 00:40:39.290
  • WHO I WAS, AND...AND HE WAS
  • 00:40:39.290 --> 00:40:41.130
  • LEFT OUT IN THE COLD.
  • 00:40:41.130 --> 00:40:42.080
  • AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ABOUT FIVE
  • 00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:43.150
  • YEARS AGO, HE WAS, UM...HE WAS
  • 00:40:43.150 --> 00:40:44.180
  • SICK.
  • 00:40:44.180 --> 00:40:46.200
  • HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.
  • 00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:48.020
  • THE LORD HAD...SPOKE TO MY
  • 00:40:48.020 --> 00:40:48.220
  • HEART.
  • 00:40:48.220 --> 00:40:49.020
  • I WAS DOING A MEN'S CONFERENCE.
  • 00:40:49.020 --> 00:40:49.240
  • THE NEXT DAY, HE SAYS: GO DOWN
  • 00:40:49.240 --> 00:40:50.220
  • AND SEE YOUR FATHER.
  • 00:40:50.220 --> 00:40:51.280
  • AND, HE DIDN'T JUST ONLY TELL
  • 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.240
  • ME TO GO SEE HIM.
  • 00:40:54.240 --> 00:40:56.120
  • HE SAYS: I WANT YOU TO GO DOWN
  • 00:40:56.120 --> 00:40:57.070
  • TO SEE YOUR FATHER AND I WANT
  • 00:40:57.070 --> 00:40:58.030
  • YOU TO REPENT TO HIM...FOR
  • 00:40:58.030 --> 00:40:59.130
  • KEEPING HIM OUT OF YOUR LIFE...
  • 00:40:59.130 --> 00:41:00.070
  • - CLIFTON: WOW.
  • 00:41:00.070 --> 00:41:00.250
  • - JASON: WOW...
  • 00:41:00.250 --> 00:41:01.090
  • - DARRYL: AND SAID: DON'T TALK
  • 00:41:01.090 --> 00:41:02.120
  • ABOUT NOTHIN' HE DID TO YOU.
  • 00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:03.030
  • - CLIFTON: MHH!
  • 00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:04.080
  • - DARRYL: AND I SAID,
  • 00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:04.250
  • "REALLY?"
  • 00:41:04.250 --> 00:41:05.060
  • HE SAID: YES.
  • 00:41:05.060 --> 00:41:05.240
  • AND I SAID, "I DON'T KNOW IF I
  • 00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:06.210
  • CAN DO THAT."
  • 00:41:06.210 --> 00:41:07.130
  • HE SAYS: YOU NEED TO GO AND
  • 00:41:07.130 --> 00:41:08.220
  • REPENT TO YOUR FATHER.
  • 00:41:08.220 --> 00:41:09.260
  • AND I DID.
  • 00:41:09.260 --> 00:41:11.050
  • I OBEYED THE LORD.
  • 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:11.260
  • AND I WENT DOWN AND I ASKED MY
  • 00:41:11.260 --> 00:41:13.100
  • FATHER TO FORGIVE ME FOR
  • 00:41:13.100 --> 00:41:15.020
  • KEEPING HIM OUT OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:41:15.020 --> 00:41:16.170
  • THE LORD SAID...
  • 00:41:16.170 --> 00:41:17.130
  • - JASON: MMH.
  • 00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:18.130
  • - DARRYL: ...THE LORD SAID,
  • 00:41:18.130 --> 00:41:19.040
  • YOU KNOW...
  • 00:41:19.040 --> 00:41:20.130
  • [EMOTION CREEPS INTO VOICE]
  • 00:41:20.130 --> 00:41:21.040
  • ...UH, THE LORD HAD SPOKE TO
  • 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:21.240
  • ME, HE SAYS: HOW DARE YOU NOT
  • 00:41:21.240 --> 00:41:22.290
  • FORGIVE HIM AND I FORGAVE YOU?
  • 00:41:22.290 --> 00:41:24.050
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...
  • 00:41:24.050 --> 00:41:25.110
  • - DARRYL: AND I WENT DOWN AND
  • 00:41:25.110 --> 00:41:26.190
  • I SAID IT.
  • 00:41:26.190 --> 00:41:28.210
  • I SAID: "I'M SORRY.
  • 00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:29.100
  • WOULD YOU FORGIVE ME?"
  • 00:41:29.100 --> 00:41:30.000
  • AND I LAID IN HIS LAP.
  • 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:30.170
  • HE SAID, "YES."
  • 00:41:30.170 --> 00:41:31.050
  • AND I JUST LOST IT.
  • 00:41:31.050 --> 00:41:31.210
  • - JASON: MMH.
  • 00:41:31.210 --> 00:41:32.270
  • - DARRYL: I JUST CRIED,
  • 00:41:32.270 --> 00:41:33.290
  • AND...AND THE LORD SAID:
  • 00:41:33.290 --> 00:41:34.170
  • RAISE UP.
  • 00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:35.050
  • AND HE SAYS: NOW, LEAD HIM TO
  • 00:41:35.050 --> 00:41:35.260
  • ME.
  • 00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:37.130
  • THERE I WAS, LEADING HIM IN THE
  • 00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:38.050
  • SINNER'S PRAYER.
  • 00:41:38.050 --> 00:41:40.170
  • THE MAN THAT BEAT ME, REJECTED
  • 00:41:40.170 --> 00:41:41.080
  • ME -- I WAS LEADING HIM TO THE
  • 00:41:41.080 --> 00:41:41.290
  • LORD.
  • 00:41:41.290 --> 00:41:42.080
  • AND THE LORD REMINDED ME THAT
  • 00:41:42.080 --> 00:41:42.290
  • THE FORGIVENESS WAS NOT FOR
  • 00:41:42.290 --> 00:41:43.190
  • HIM; THE FORGIVENESS WAS FOR
  • 00:41:43.190 --> 00:41:44.090
  • ME.
  • 00:41:44.090 --> 00:41:45.060
  • HE SAID: NO WONDER--
  • 00:41:45.060 --> 00:41:46.110
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:41:46.110 --> 00:41:47.030
  • HE SAID--
  • 00:41:47.030 --> 00:41:47.200
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:49.000
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.150
  • - DARRYL: HE EXPLAINED TO
  • 00:41:50.150 --> 00:41:51.150
  • ME...
  • 00:41:51.150 --> 00:41:54.080
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:41:54.080 --> 00:41:55.190
  • - DARRYL: HE EXPLAINED TO ME
  • 00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:56.100
  • IN THAT SITUATION, HE SAYS:
  • 00:41:56.100 --> 00:41:57.000
  • THIS IS WHY YOU WERE NEVER
  • 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:57.190
  • FREE.
  • 00:41:58.010 --> 00:42:01.030
  • BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T LET
  • 00:42:01.030 --> 00:42:01.210
  • HIM GO.
  • 00:42:01.210 --> 00:42:02.010
  • WHEN I LET HIM GO -- I RELEASED
  • 00:42:02.010 --> 00:42:02.250
  • HIM AND GAVE HIM BACK TO THE
  • 00:42:02.250 --> 00:42:04.100
  • LORD -- I WAS IMMEDIATELY FREE.
  • 00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:06.210
  • - CLIFTON: MMH!
  • 00:42:06.210 --> 00:42:07.220
  • - DARRYL: IT WAS A WHOLE
  • 00:42:07.220 --> 00:42:08.170
  • DIFFERENT-- IT WAS A WHOLE
  • 00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:10.140
  • DIFFERENT WALK,
  • 00:42:10.140 --> 00:42:11.090
  • WHOLE DIFFERENT LIFE.
  • 00:42:11.090 --> 00:42:11.260
  • I HAD NO MORE ANXIETY INSIDE OF
  • 00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:12.180
  • ME TOWARDS HIM.
  • 00:42:12.180 --> 00:42:13.170
  • AND I JUST-- I LED HIM TO THE
  • 00:42:13.170 --> 00:42:14.230
  • LORD AND HE PASSED AWAY LIKE
  • 00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:16.210
  • FOUR MONTHS LATER.
  • 00:42:16.210 --> 00:42:19.070
  • BUT...THERE IT WAS.
  • 00:42:19.070 --> 00:42:20.010
  • GOD USED ME TO LEAD MY ENTIRE
  • 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:21.030
  • FAMILY AND MY FATHER TO HIM.
  • 00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:24.120
  • - CLIFTON: ISN'T THAT
  • 00:42:24.120 --> 00:42:25.040
  • SOMETHING?
  • 00:42:25.040 --> 00:42:25.170
  • - JASON: AMAZING.
  • 00:42:25.170 --> 00:42:26.020
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, YEAH, SO...
  • 00:42:26.020 --> 00:42:27.050
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT A BLESSING.
  • 00:42:27.050 --> 00:42:27.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.000
  • THAT-- THAT IS...
  • 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:35.130
  • WHY-- WHY, DARRYL...WHY IS
  • 00:42:35.130 --> 00:42:36.290
  • FORGIVENESS SO IMPORTANT?
  • 00:42:36.290 --> 00:42:38.150
  • - DARRYL: WELL, I THINK
  • 00:42:38.150 --> 00:42:40.160
  • BECAUSE-- I UNDERSTAND IT, NOW.
  • 00:42:40.160 --> 00:42:42.070
  • I THINK IT'S A RELIEF FOR
  • 00:42:42.070 --> 00:42:43.120
  • YOURSELF.
  • 00:42:43.120 --> 00:42:44.250
  • 'CAUSE WE THINK WE'RE HOLDIN'
  • 00:42:44.250 --> 00:42:46.150
  • SOME--
  • 00:42:46.150 --> 00:42:47.040
  • WE'RE HOLDIN' SOMEBODY ELSE
  • 00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:48.140
  • HOSTAGE AND WE'RE GIVING THEM
  • 00:42:48.140 --> 00:42:49.050
  • SPACE IN OUR HEAD.
  • 00:42:49.050 --> 00:42:50.170
  • - CLIFTON: MMH!
  • 00:42:50.170 --> 00:42:51.080
  • [LAUGHS]
  • 00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:52.190
  • - JASON: THEN, EVERYONE'S IN
  • 00:42:52.190 --> 00:42:53.100
  • HOSTAGE.
  • 00:42:53.100 --> 00:42:53.200
  • EVERYONE'S HOSTAGE.
  • 00:42:53.200 --> 00:42:54.060
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:42:54.060 --> 00:42:54.200
  • - CLIFTON: MAKES US THE
  • 00:42:54.200 --> 00:42:55.080
  • HOSTAGE.
  • 00:42:55.080 --> 00:42:55.230
  • - DARRYL: IT MAKES US THE
  • 00:42:55.230 --> 00:42:56.130
  • HOSTAGE.
  • 00:42:56.130 --> 00:42:56.230
  • YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING--
  • 00:42:56.230 --> 00:42:57.180
  • - JASON: WE'RE THE PRISONER,
  • 00:42:57.180 --> 00:42:58.090
  • INSIDE.
  • 00:42:58.090 --> 00:42:58.190
  • BECAUSE WE'RE GIVIN' 'EM TOO
  • 00:42:58.190 --> 00:42:59.200
  • MUCH SPACE IN OUR HEAD, YOU
  • 00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:00.170
  • KNOW?
  • 00:43:00.170 --> 00:43:01.020
  • AND I JUST REMEMBERED, UH--
  • 00:43:01.020 --> 00:43:02.280
  • REMEMBERED THAT NEVER TO--
  • 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.120
  • NEVER TO HOLD ANYONE ANYMORE.
  • 00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:06.210
  • IT'S JUST TO GO AHEAD AND
  • 00:43:06.210 --> 00:43:08.010
  • FORGIVE 'EM.
  • 00:43:08.010 --> 00:43:08.180
  • IT'S BETTER TO RELEASE THAT,
  • 00:43:08.180 --> 00:43:09.180
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:43:09.180 --> 00:43:10.110
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:11.140
  • - DARRYL: BECAUSE WE REALLY
  • 00:43:11.140 --> 00:43:12.230
  • CAN'T GET WHERE GOD WANTS US TO
  • 00:43:12.230 --> 00:43:13.180
  • GET.
  • 00:43:13.180 --> 00:43:14.030
  • I MEAN, 'CAUSE GOD IS NOT GONNA
  • 00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:16.150
  • USE A HEART THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
  • 00:43:16.150 --> 00:43:17.150
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:18.200
  • HE'S ONLY LOOKIN' FOR THE HEART
  • 00:43:18.200 --> 00:43:21.110
  • THAT'S GONNA GET RIGHT.
  • 00:43:21.110 --> 00:43:22.210
  • A LOT OF 'EM THINK: WELL, YOU
  • 00:43:22.210 --> 00:43:23.280
  • KNOW, I'M GETTIN' AWAY WITH
  • 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.010
  • SOMETHIN'.
  • 00:43:25.010 --> 00:43:25.130
  • YOU'RE NOT GETTIN' AWAY WITH
  • 00:43:25.130 --> 00:43:26.030
  • NOTHIN' WITH GOD...YOU KNOW?
  • 00:43:26.030 --> 00:43:27.130
  • - JASON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:43:27.130 --> 00:43:28.080
  • - DARRYL: 'CAUSE WHEN YOU
  • 00:43:28.080 --> 00:43:28.270
  • THINK ABOUT THAT WOMAN AT THE
  • 00:43:28.270 --> 00:43:29.200
  • WELL, SHE THOUGHT: IF GOD--
  • 00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:30.210
  • JESUS TOLD HER ABOUT HER FIVE
  • 00:43:30.210 --> 00:43:31.190
  • HUSBANDS, SAID "THE ONE YOU'RE
  • 00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:33.090
  • LIVING WITH NOW."
  • 00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:33.240
  • THERE'S NO SECRETS WITH GOD.
  • 00:43:33.240 --> 00:43:34.140
  • - JASON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:43:34.140 --> 00:43:35.030
  • - DARRYL: HE SEES IT ALL, HE
  • 00:43:35.030 --> 00:43:35.240
  • SEES IT ALL, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:43:35.240 --> 00:43:36.260
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:43:36.260 --> 00:43:38.010
  • - DARRYL: AND SO MANY OF 'EM
  • 00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:38.280
  • BE THINKIN', "WE GETTIN' AWAY
  • 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:39.250
  • WITH SOMETHIN'."
  • 00:43:39.250 --> 00:43:40.110
  • AND I REMEMBER GOD SAYIN': IF
  • 00:43:40.110 --> 00:43:41.170
  • YOU DON'T LEARN TO RELEASE
  • 00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:43.020
  • PEOPLE, YOU COULD NEVER DO WHAT
  • 00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:44.260
  • I'VE CALLED YOU TO DO.
  • 00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:47.110
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:47.270
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:43:47.270 --> 00:43:49.190
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:43:49.190 --> 00:43:50.040
  • - DARRYL: IN SUCH A BIG WAY,
  • 00:43:50.040 --> 00:43:50.250
  • YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:43:50.250 --> 00:43:51.260
  • BECAUSE, YOUR HEART IS NOT
  • 00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:54.060
  • RIGHT, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:43:54.060 --> 00:43:55.230
  • YOU GOTTA GET THAT OUTTA YOUR
  • 00:43:55.230 --> 00:43:56.140
  • - CLIFTON: I WAS WRONGED BY
  • 00:43:58.040 --> 00:43:58.250
  • SOMEBODY AND I THOUGHT: I WILL
  • 00:43:58.250 --> 00:44:00.100
  • NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR WHAT
  • 00:44:00.100 --> 00:44:01.020
  • THEY DID.
  • 00:44:01.020 --> 00:44:01.270
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:44:01.270 --> 00:44:03.050
  • - CLIFTON: AND THE SPIRIT
  • 00:44:03.050 --> 00:44:04.170
  • MOVED ON ME,
  • 00:44:04.170 --> 00:44:05.240
  • LIKE HE SPOKE INTO YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:44:05.240 --> 00:44:07.120
  • AND TOLD ME: YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:44:07.120 --> 00:44:08.170
  • HAVEN'T I FORGIVEN YOU SO MUCH?
  • 00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:12.140
  • - DARRYL: MMH.
  • 00:44:12.140 --> 00:44:13.020
  • - CLIFTON: IN FACT, I'M ABOUT
  • 00:44:13.020 --> 00:44:14.090
  • TO FORGIVE YOU AGAIN FOR TODAY.
  • 00:44:14.090 --> 00:44:15.130
  • - JASON: EXACTLY.
  • 00:44:15.130 --> 00:44:16.050
  • [DARRYL LAUGHS]
  • 00:44:16.050 --> 00:44:17.070
  • - DARRYL: AMEN.
  • 00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:18.000
  • - CLIFTON: AND SO, I LAID IT
  • 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.180
  • BEFORE THE LORD, AND, UH, I
  • 00:44:20.180 --> 00:44:22.080
  • FORGAVE THAT PERSON.
  • 00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:24.210
  • AND I FEEL BETTER, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:44:24.210 --> 00:44:26.240
  • I LOOK YOUNGER.
  • 00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:27.080
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:44:27.080 --> 00:44:28.240
  • I'M HEALTHIER.
  • 00:44:28.240 --> 00:44:30.010
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:44:30.010 --> 00:44:31.090
  • - CLIFTON: YOU KNOW, YOU'RE
  • 00:44:31.090 --> 00:44:32.140
  • JUST-- YOUR GENERAL HEALTH IS
  • 00:44:32.140 --> 00:44:33.150
  • BETTER WHEN YOU FORGIVE PEOPLE.
  • 00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:34.250
  • SOMEBODY SAY AMEN.
  • 00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:35.120
  • - JASON: AMEN.
  • 00:44:35.120 --> 00:44:36.030
  • - DARRYL: AMEN.
  • 00:44:36.030 --> 00:44:37.180
  • - CLIFTON: DO YOU AGREE WITH
  • 00:44:37.180 --> 00:44:38.090
  • THAT, JASON?
  • 00:44:38.090 --> 00:44:39.010
  • - JASON: I DO.
  • 00:44:39.010 --> 00:44:39.150
  • AND I ALSO REALIZE, TOO, WHEN
  • 00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:40.260
  • WE FORGIVE-- I WANT PEOPLE TO--
  • 00:44:40.260 --> 00:44:42.160
  • 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME UP
  • 00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:44.230
  • TO ME AND SAY, "WHEN I FORGAVE,
  • 00:44:44.230 --> 00:44:46.120
  • IT'S LIKE I'M LETTING THEM OFF
  • 00:44:46.120 --> 00:44:47.030
  • THE HOOK."
  • 00:44:47.030 --> 00:44:47.140
  • YOU'RE NOT LETTING THE PERSON
  • 00:44:47.140 --> 00:44:48.120
  • WHO YOU FORGIVE-- WHO DID THE
  • 00:44:48.120 --> 00:44:50.170
  • DAMAGE OFF THE HOOK...WHEN WE
  • 00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:51.280
  • FORGIVE.
  • 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:52.110
  • I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT DARRYL
  • 00:44:52.110 --> 00:44:53.050
  • SAID: IT'S ABOUT US.
  • 00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:54.110
  • IT'S ABOUT US BEING FREE.
  • 00:44:54.110 --> 00:44:55.240
  • THERE'S A GREAT QUOTE THAT SAYS
  • 00:44:55.240 --> 00:44:57.090
  • TO FORGIVE IS TO SET A PRISONER
  • 00:44:57.090 --> 00:44:58.220
  • FREE AND DISCOVER THE
  • 00:44:58.220 --> 00:45:00.030
  • PRISONER...IS ME.
  • 00:45:00.030 --> 00:45:01.150
  • [DARRYL LAUGHS]
  • 00:45:01.150 --> 00:45:03.210
  • - CLIFTON: HAHA!
  • 00:45:03.210 --> 00:45:04.110
  • YOU BETTER SAY IT.
  • 00:45:04.110 --> 00:45:04.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:05.070
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:45:05.070 --> 00:45:05.230
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:45:05.230 --> 00:45:06.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:07.010
  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
  • 00:45:07.010 --> 00:45:07.180
  • - CLIFTON: THAT WAS GOOD, MAN.
  • 00:45:07.180 --> 00:45:08.260
  • - DARRYL: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:45:08.260 --> 00:45:09.140
  • IT'S GOOD!
  • 00:45:09.140 --> 00:45:09.290
  • IT'S GOOD!
  • 00:45:09.290 --> 00:45:10.100
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:45:10.100 --> 00:45:10.290
  • - JASON: IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING
  • 00:45:10.290 --> 00:45:11.200
  • A PRISONER.
  • 00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:12.030
  • - CLIFTON: TO FORGIVE IS TO
  • 00:45:12.030 --> 00:45:12.230
  • SET A PRISONER FREE...
  • 00:45:12.230 --> 00:45:13.100
  • AND THE PRISONER IS ME.
  • 00:45:13.100 --> 00:45:13.280
  • OHHHH, YEAH.
  • 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.050
  • I'M NOT GONNA FORGET THAT ONE.
  • 00:45:16.050 --> 00:45:17.150
  • - JASON: YOU OUGHT TO STEAL
  • 00:45:17.150 --> 00:45:18.050
  • THAT ONE.
  • 00:45:18.050 --> 00:45:18.160
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:19.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:45:19.080 --> 00:45:19.270
  • SEE, THE ACTOR IN ME IS
  • 00:45:19.270 --> 00:45:20.150
  • REMEMBERING THE LINE.
  • 00:45:20.150 --> 00:45:21.190
  • - DARRYL: I KNOW.
  • 00:45:21.190 --> 00:45:22.040
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:45:22.040 --> 00:45:22.260
  • THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:45:22.260 --> 00:45:23.090
  • IT'S A GOOD MEMORY.
  • 00:45:23.090 --> 00:45:24.080
  • - JASON: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:45:24.080 --> 00:45:24.250
  • - CLIFTON: AH...IT'S A
  • 00:45:24.250 --> 00:45:25.130
  • WONDERFUL THING.
  • 00:45:25.130 --> 00:45:26.140
  • WELL, NOW, AH...WE TALKED ABOUT
  • 00:45:26.140 --> 00:45:28.000
  • HOW IT BRINGS HEALING INTO YOUR
  • 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.140
  • LIFE, BUT, AH, HOW DO WE
  • 00:45:29.140 --> 00:45:30.220
  • OVERCOME THE BITTERNESS.
  • 00:45:30.220 --> 00:45:33.070
  • - JASON: MMH...
  • 00:45:33.070 --> 00:45:34.080
  • - CLIFTON: YOU KNOW, WE GET
  • 00:45:34.080 --> 00:45:35.020
  • INTO THE...INTO THE WEEDS HERE
  • 00:45:35.020 --> 00:45:36.100
  • A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:45:36.100 --> 00:45:36.270
  • BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SO
  • 00:45:36.270 --> 00:45:38.180
  • BITTER, THEY MAY IN POINT-- IN
  • 00:45:38.200 --> 00:45:41.200
  • PRINCIPLE FORGIVE SOMEONE, BUT
  • 00:45:41.200 --> 00:45:44.030
  • THEY CAN'T SEEM TO LET GO OF
  • 00:45:44.030 --> 00:45:47.000
  • THAT BITTERNESS WITHIN THEM.
  • 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:47.260
  • - DARRYL: WELL--
  • 00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:49.000
  • - CLIFTON: IT'S BEYOND...IT'S
  • 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:50.130
  • BEYOND THE PERSON WHO WRONGED
  • 00:45:50.130 --> 00:45:52.040
  • THEM.
  • 00:45:52.040 --> 00:45:53.030
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:45:53.030 --> 00:45:54.100
  • - CLIFTON: IT'S NOW A DISEASE
  • 00:45:54.100 --> 00:45:55.190
  • INSIDE OF THEM.
  • 00:45:55.190 --> 00:45:56.240
  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
  • 00:45:56.240 --> 00:45:57.260
  • - CLIFTON: HOW DO THEY DEAL
  • 00:45:57.260 --> 00:45:58.160
  • WITH THAT?
  • 00:45:58.160 --> 00:45:59.060
  • - DARRYL: BUT YOU GOTTA-- WE
  • 00:45:59.060 --> 00:46:00.070
  • GOTTA ALWAYS REMEMBER, YOU
  • 00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:01.140
  • KNOW...JESUS CAME HERE FOR THE
  • 00:46:01.140 --> 00:46:03.190
  • SICK.
  • 00:46:03.190 --> 00:46:04.160
  • AND WE ALL SICK.
  • 00:46:04.160 --> 00:46:06.290
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:46:06.290 --> 00:46:08.020
  • AND IF WE CAN ADMIT TO THAT --
  • 00:46:08.020 --> 00:46:09.160
  • BEING SICK INSIDE AND NEED TO
  • 00:46:09.160 --> 00:46:11.030
  • BE HEALED -- UH, THEN WE'RE
  • 00:46:11.030 --> 00:46:13.010
  • ABLE TO GET HEALED, THEN YOU'RE
  • 00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:14.230
  • ABLE TO GET A REAL HEALING.
  • 00:46:14.230 --> 00:46:15.130
  • 'CAUSE, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT
  • 00:46:15.130 --> 00:46:16.240
  • OF...THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:46:16.240 --> 00:46:18.120
  • THAT I DIDN'T WANNA FORGIVE,
  • 00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:20.080
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:46:20.080 --> 00:46:21.050
  • THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT
  • 00:46:21.050 --> 00:46:22.090
  • HAPPENED IN MY CAREER,
  • 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:22.270
  • BASEBALL, PEOPLE HAD DONE
  • 00:46:22.270 --> 00:46:24.070
  • ME WRONG, AGENTS...STOLE
  • 00:46:24.070 --> 00:46:25.240
  • MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND...AND
  • 00:46:25.240 --> 00:46:27.000
  • THE LORD SPOKE TO ME CLEAR ONE
  • 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:27.260
  • DAY.
  • 00:46:27.260 --> 00:46:28.120
  • HE SAYS: IF YOU EVER WANNA...BE
  • 00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:30.020
  • ON THE PLATFORM FOR ME, YOU'RE
  • 00:46:30.110 --> 00:46:33.110
  • GONNA HAVE TO...GET RID OF ALL
  • 00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:34.280
  • THAT BITTERNESS AND
  • 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:35.250
  • THAT...HATRED THAT YOU HAVE IN
  • 00:46:36.050 --> 00:46:39.050
  • YOUR HEART.
  • 00:46:39.050 --> 00:46:39.280
  • - CLIFTON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.180
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:46:40.180 --> 00:46:41.290
  • - DARRYL: AND...AND THAT TAKES
  • 00:46:41.290 --> 00:46:42.210
  • TIME, THROUGH THE WORD OF
  • 00:46:42.210 --> 00:46:44.010
  • GOD -- STUDYING THE WORD OF
  • 00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:45.270
  • GOD...YOU KNOW?
  • 00:46:45.270 --> 00:46:47.040
  • AND I THINK THAT IF YOU STUDY
  • 00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:49.030
  • THE WORD OF GOD, IT COMES ALIVE
  • 00:46:49.030 --> 00:46:50.130
  • TO YOU AND IT TEACHES YOU
  • 00:46:50.130 --> 00:46:52.180
  • EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:46:52.180 --> 00:46:55.170
  • AND, THAT'S WHAT THAT
  • 00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:56.040
  • EPHESIANS 3:20 TALKS ABOUT.
  • 00:46:56.040 --> 00:46:57.010
  • "NOW, UNTO HIM WHO IS ABLE TO
  • 00:46:57.010 --> 00:46:58.190
  • DO EXCEEDINGLY..."
  • 00:46:58.190 --> 00:47:01.160
  • - JASON: AND ABUNDANTLY, YEAH.
  • 00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:04.010
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:47:04.010 --> 00:47:05.000
  • "...AND ABUNDANTLY MORE."
  • 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:05.190
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:47:05.190 --> 00:47:06.020
  • SEE, IT'S-- BUT, SEE,
  • 00:47:06.020 --> 00:47:07.120
  • 'CAUSE...IF YOU GET RID OF THE
  • 00:47:07.120 --> 00:47:09.130
  • BITTERNESS AND WHATEVER YOU GOT
  • 00:47:09.130 --> 00:47:11.010
  • INSIDE OF YOU, GOD'S GONNA DO
  • 00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:12.210
  • HIS EXCEEDINGLY INSIDE OF YOU
  • 00:47:12.210 --> 00:47:15.180
  • THAT NO MAN COULD EVER SAY HE
  • 00:47:15.180 --> 00:47:17.050
  • GAVE TO YOU.
  • 00:47:17.050 --> 00:47:18.170
  • - CLIFTON: MMH-MMH-MMH.
  • 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:19.050
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:20.020
  • - DARRYL: AND YOU-- AND YOU
  • 00:47:20.020 --> 00:47:20.280
  • DON'T HAVE TO BE BITTER WITH
  • 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:21.180
  • 'EM.
  • 00:47:21.180 --> 00:47:23.050
  • I MEAN -- HEY, WHAT'D HE SAY?
  • 00:47:23.050 --> 00:47:23.260
  • HE WILL PREPARE A TABLE...
  • 00:47:23.290 --> 00:47:26.290
  • - CLIFTON: ...BEFORE YOU, IN
  • 00:47:26.290 --> 00:47:28.220
  • THE PRESENCE OF YOUR ENEMIES.
  • 00:47:28.220 --> 00:47:30.190
  • - DARRYL: ...BEFORE YOU, IN
  • 00:47:30.190 --> 00:47:31.170
  • THE PRESENCE OF YOUR ENEMIES.
  • 00:47:31.170 --> 00:47:33.120
  • HE HAS PREPARED A TABLE IN
  • 00:47:33.120 --> 00:47:34.290
  • FRONT OF ALL THOSE THAT WAS
  • 00:47:34.290 --> 00:47:36.090
  • LAUGHIN' ABOUT ME AND THOUGHT I
  • 00:47:36.090 --> 00:47:37.250
  • WAS DONE AND DID ME WRONG.
  • 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.280
  • AND ONCE I GOT THAT BITTERNESS
  • 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:41.240
  • OUTSIDE OF ME AND WALKED AWAY
  • 00:47:41.240 --> 00:47:43.120
  • FROM IT, AND GAVE IT BACK, AND
  • 00:47:43.120 --> 00:47:45.130
  • LAID IT DOWN...
  • 00:47:45.130 --> 00:47:47.290
  • THEY TALK ABOUT GO TO THE
  • 00:47:47.290 --> 00:47:48.180
  • ALTAR.
  • 00:47:48.180 --> 00:47:49.010
  • SOME OF YOU NEED
  • 00:47:49.010 --> 00:47:49.150
  • TO GO TO THE ALTAR AND
  • 00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:50.060
  • LAY YOUR BURDENS DOWN?
  • 00:47:50.060 --> 00:47:51.030
  • AND YOU NEED TO REALLY LAY 'EM
  • 00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:52.000
  • DOWN.
  • 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.180
  • YOU CAN'T KEEP PICKIN' 'EM BACK
  • 00:47:52.180 --> 00:47:53.290
  • UP, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU'RE
  • 00:47:53.290 --> 00:47:55.040
  • NEVER GOING TO GET ANYWHERE
  • 00:47:55.040 --> 00:47:57.200
  • WITH GOD IF YOU KEEP PICKIN'
  • 00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:58.100
  • THOSE BURDENS BACK UP.
  • 00:47:58.100 --> 00:47:59.110
  • YOU NEED TO THAT ALTAR AND LAY
  • 00:47:59.110 --> 00:48:00.040
  • 'EM DOWN.
  • 00:48:00.040 --> 00:48:00.150
  • 'CAUSE, SEE, HE-- WHATEVER--
  • 00:48:00.150 --> 00:48:02.120
  • WHATEVER'S KILLIN' US, JESUS
  • 00:48:02.120 --> 00:48:03.200
  • ALREADY KILLED IT.
  • 00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:04.250
  • SO MANY OF 'EM STAND STUCK IN
  • 00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:07.000
  • THAT PLACE INSIDE BECAUSE WE
  • 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.080
  • JUST WON'T LAY IT DOWN.
  • 00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:11.250
  • WE WON'T LAY IT DOWN AT THE
  • 00:48:11.250 --> 00:48:12.190
  • ALTAR.
  • 00:48:12.190 --> 00:48:13.160
  • SEE, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT
  • 00:48:13.160 --> 00:48:14.250
  • OF TIME FOR FOOLISHNESS NO
  • 00:48:14.250 --> 00:48:15.140
  • MORE.
  • 00:48:15.140 --> 00:48:16.010
  • BECAUSE I LIVED IN FOOLISHNESS
  • 00:48:16.010 --> 00:48:17.170
  • PLAYIN' BASEBALL FOR 17 YEARS,
  • 00:48:17.170 --> 00:48:18.270
  • AND WINNIN' CHAMPIONSHIPS, AND
  • 00:48:18.270 --> 00:48:20.070
  • LIVIN' A LIFE THAT WAS A LIE.
  • 00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:22.020
  • I REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME.
  • 00:48:22.020 --> 00:48:23.110
  • IT'S SUCH AN URGENCY WITH GOD,
  • 00:48:23.110 --> 00:48:24.160
  • NOW.
  • 00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:25.010
  • IF YOU'RE NOT IN HIS PLAN, THEN
  • 00:48:25.010 --> 00:48:26.090
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT PLAN YOU'RE
  • 00:48:26.090 --> 00:48:27.000
  • IN...YOU KNOW?
  • 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.100
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S NO OTHER PLAN
  • 00:48:28.100 --> 00:48:29.250
  • THAT'S-- JESUS HAS GOT THE
  • 00:48:29.250 --> 00:48:31.030
  • GREATEST PLAN FOR ALL OUR
  • 00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:31.270
  • LIVES.
  • 00:48:31.270 --> 00:48:33.270
  • IT'S JUST UP TO US AS PEOPLE.
  • 00:48:33.270 --> 00:48:35.020
  • YOU KNOW, HE'S TELLIN' THE
  • 00:48:35.020 --> 00:48:36.160
  • PEOPLE: COME, STOP, TURN.
  • 00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:37.260
  • DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT ANYBODY
  • 00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:39.020
  • ELSE IS SAYIN' ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:48:39.020 --> 00:48:40.020
  • LET THEM GO.
  • 00:48:40.020 --> 00:48:40.270
  • LET THEM BE FREE SO YOU CAN BE
  • 00:48:40.270 --> 00:48:42.150
  • FREE SO I CAN USE THAT VESSEL.
  • 00:48:42.150 --> 00:48:44.040
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:48:44.040 --> 00:48:45.090
  • - DARRYL: SEE, 'CAUSE THAT'S A
  • 00:48:45.090 --> 00:48:46.010
  • VESSEL HE WANTS TO USE.
  • 00:48:46.010 --> 00:48:47.110
  • BUT HE CAN ONLY USE THAT VESSEL
  • 00:48:47.110 --> 00:48:49.030
  • IF THAT VESSEL'S BEEN CLEANED
  • 00:48:49.030 --> 00:48:50.120
  • OUT, YOUR PERSON CLEANSED OUT.
  • 00:48:50.220 --> 00:48:53.220
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:48:53.220 --> 00:48:54.090
  • - CLIFTON: YES.
  • 00:48:54.090 --> 00:48:54.250
  • - DARRYL: AND SO, BITTERNESS
  • 00:48:54.250 --> 00:48:55.160
  • IS NO LONGER-- SHOULD BE NO
  • 00:48:55.160 --> 00:48:56.060
  • LONGER PART OF YOUR WALK.
  • 00:48:56.060 --> 00:48:57.200
  • JUST LIKE THE FORGIVENESS PART,
  • 00:48:57.200 --> 00:48:58.230
  • YOU'VE GOTTA GET RID OF IT TO
  • 00:48:58.230 --> 00:49:01.000
  • BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT VESSEL TO
  • 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.230
  • BE CLEAN SO HE CAN POUR HIS
  • 00:49:02.230 --> 00:49:05.020
  • SPIRIT INTO YOU, SO IT CAN
  • 00:49:05.020 --> 00:49:05.210
  • DWELL IN YOU AND YOU CAN GO OUT
  • 00:49:05.210 --> 00:49:07.100
  • AND YOU CAN WIN THE LOST.
  • 00:49:07.100 --> 00:49:10.100
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:49:10.100 --> 00:49:10.260
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD...PRAISE
  • 00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:11.180
  • GOD.
  • 00:49:11.180 --> 00:49:13.260
  • TALK ABOUT YOUR MINISTRY.
  • 00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:14.150
  • HOW IS IT GOING AND WHERE DO
  • 00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:16.070
  • YOU SEE IT GOING IN THE FUTURE?
  • 00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:17.160
  • - DARRYL: WELL, IT'S
  • 00:49:17.160 --> 00:49:18.140
  • INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:49:18.140 --> 00:49:18.280
  • THE LORD HAS DONE SOME
  • 00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.030
  • INCREDIBLE THINGS.
  • 00:49:20.030 --> 00:49:22.160
  • HE'S SENT ME ALL OVER THE
  • 00:49:22.160 --> 00:49:23.050
  • PLACE.
  • 00:49:23.050 --> 00:49:23.240
  • I TRAVEL AND I DO MEN'S
  • 00:49:23.240 --> 00:49:25.080
  • MINISTRY, PREACHIN'
  • 00:49:25.080 --> 00:49:27.020
  • IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS, NOW --
  • 00:49:27.020 --> 00:49:28.290
  • NOT QUALIFIED, 'CAUSE I DON'T
  • 00:49:28.290 --> 00:49:30.150
  • HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED 'CAUSE HE
  • 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:31.070
  • QUALIFIES THE CALL.
  • 00:49:31.070 --> 00:49:32.120
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:49:32.120 --> 00:49:33.140
  • - DARRYL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:49:33.140 --> 00:49:36.050
  • THAT'S WHAT THAT 1 JOHN 4:4
  • 00:49:36.050 --> 00:49:37.120
  • TALKS ABOUT: "...GREATER IS HE
  • 00:49:37.120 --> 00:49:39.200
  • THAT'S IN ME THAN HE THAT'S IN
  • 00:49:39.200 --> 00:49:40.120
  • THE WORLD."
  • 00:49:40.120 --> 00:49:41.040
  • IT'S POWER IN THE SCRIPTURES
  • 00:49:41.040 --> 00:49:42.070
  • AND I THINK WE DON'T USE IT
  • 00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:43.270
  • ENOUGH FOR THE MINISTRY SO GOD
  • 00:49:43.270 --> 00:49:45.200
  • CAN DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
  • 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:47.010
  • WE'RE TRYIN' TO BRAND OURSELF
  • 00:49:47.010 --> 00:49:48.280
  • AND MAKE OURSELF A BRAND.
  • 00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:51.000
  • BUT JESUS IS THE BRAND.
  • 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:52.100
  • SEE, MY MINISTRY-- MY MINISTRY
  • 00:49:52.100 --> 00:49:53.290
  • IS NOT ABOUT ME; MY MINISTRY'S
  • 00:49:53.290 --> 00:49:55.030
  • ABOUT JESUS.
  • 00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:55.180
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:49:55.180 --> 00:49:56.100
  • - DARRYL: SEE, I DON'T BRAND
  • 00:49:56.100 --> 00:49:57.090
  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
  • 00:49:57.090 --> 00:49:58.080
  • WHO IS THAT?
  • 00:49:58.080 --> 00:49:58.260
  • HE WAS A OL' BROKEN SOUL, OL'
  • 00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:00.180
  • SINNER, OL' HEATHEN THAT WAS
  • 00:50:00.180 --> 00:50:02.080
  • LOST, THAT WAS REJECTED, THAT
  • 00:50:02.080 --> 00:50:03.280
  • WAS REDEEMED BY THE BLOOD OF
  • 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.140
  • THE LAMB.
  • 00:50:05.140 --> 00:50:06.000
  • - CLIFTON: HELLO!
  • 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:06.250
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:50:06.250 --> 00:50:07.290
  • YES, SIR!
  • 00:50:07.290 --> 00:50:08.140
  • YES, SIR!
  • 00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:09.050
  • - DARRYL: THAT'S WHERE THE
  • 00:50:09.050 --> 00:50:09.250
  • POWER IS.
  • 00:50:09.250 --> 00:50:10.200
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:50:10.200 --> 00:50:11.270
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:50:11.270 --> 00:50:13.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:50:13.270 --> 00:50:15.120
  • - DARRYL: IT'S REALLY NOT
  • 00:50:15.120 --> 00:50:17.210
  • ABOUT MY MINISTRY;
  • 00:50:17.210 --> 00:50:18.070
  • IT'S JESUS' MINISTRY.
  • 00:50:18.070 --> 00:50:18.270
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:50:18.270 --> 00:50:19.270
  • AND I WANNA KEEP IT THAT WAY.
  • 00:50:19.270 --> 00:50:21.020
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:50:21.020 --> 00:50:23.030
  • JASON--
  • 00:50:23.030 --> 00:50:23.210
  • - JASON: I CAN ATTEST.
  • 00:50:23.210 --> 00:50:24.090
  • I MEAN, I WAS AT A CONFERENCE
  • 00:50:24.090 --> 00:50:25.210
  • WITH HIM IN WISCONSIN A COUPLE
  • 00:50:25.210 --> 00:50:26.140
  • MONTHS AGO, CAME OUT AND SAW
  • 00:50:26.140 --> 00:50:27.250
  • HIM A COUPLE YEARS AGO UP IN
  • 00:50:27.250 --> 00:50:29.180
  • CONNECTICUT WHERE I LIVE.
  • 00:50:29.180 --> 00:50:30.250
  • THIS GUY'S PREACHING JESUS.
  • 00:50:30.250 --> 00:50:32.050
  • HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:50:32.050 --> 00:50:33.150
  • BASEBALL.
  • 00:50:33.150 --> 00:50:35.050
  • IN FACT, THE FIRST CONVERSATION
  • 00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:36.080
  • I EVER HAD WITH HIM WAS ABOUT
  • 00:50:36.080 --> 00:50:36.290
  • JESUS.
  • 00:50:36.290 --> 00:50:37.270
  • I'M LIKE, "I WANNA TALK ABOUT
  • 00:50:37.270 --> 00:50:38.180
  • THE 1986 METS."
  • 00:50:38.180 --> 00:50:39.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:39.250 --> 00:50:41.200
  • HE'S LIKE, "NO, WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:42.160
  • TALK ABOUT JESUS."
  • 00:50:42.160 --> 00:50:43.020
  • I SAID: "OKAY!
  • 00:50:43.020 --> 00:50:43.150
  • LET'S TALK ABOUT JESUS."
  • 00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:44.290
  • [CLIFTON LAUGHS]
  • 00:50:44.290 --> 00:50:45.160
  • SO, I CAN ATTEST.
  • 00:50:45.160 --> 00:50:46.050
  • [DARRYL LAUGHS]
  • 00:50:46.050 --> 00:50:47.020
  • THIS GUY'S DOIN' GREAT THINGS
  • 00:50:47.020 --> 00:50:48.070
  • FOR THE LORD.
  • 00:50:48.070 --> 00:50:49.100
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:50:49.100 --> 00:50:50.010
  • HOW DOES FAITH COME INTO PLAY
  • 00:50:50.010 --> 00:50:51.290
  • IN YOUR LIFE, DEALING WITH
  • 00:50:51.290 --> 00:50:53.080
  • ANGER AND RESENTMENT, SO THAT
  • 00:50:53.080 --> 00:50:56.000
  • YOU CAN ARRIVE AT A PLACE OF
  • 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.280
  • FORGIVENESS?
  • 00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:58.260
  • - JASON: IT'S-IT'S EVERYTHING.
  • 00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:01.010
  • I MEAN, WHEN CHRIST CAME INTO
  • 00:51:01.010 --> 00:51:02.150
  • MY LIFE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE
  • 00:51:02.150 --> 00:51:04.040
  • YOU KNOW, I HAD A GOOD JOB, WE
  • 00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:09.020
  • HAD JUST BOUGHT OUR FIRST
  • 00:51:09.020 --> 00:51:09.210
  • HOUSE, GOT MARRIED TO A
  • 00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:11.030
  • BEAUTIFUL WOMAN -- EVERYTHING'S
  • 00:51:11.030 --> 00:51:11.250
  • GREAT!
  • 00:51:11.250 --> 00:51:13.070
  • BUT I REALIZED INSIDE: I GOT A
  • 00:51:13.070 --> 00:51:14.220
  • LOTTA WORK TO DO.
  • 00:51:14.220 --> 00:51:15.140
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:51:15.140 --> 00:51:16.240
  • - JASON: AND I NEEDED SOMETHIN'
  • 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:18.160
  • TO COME IN.
  • 00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:19.090
  • AND IT WAS AN EMPTINESS IN
  • 00:51:19.090 --> 00:51:19.280
  • THERE.
  • 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.070
  • AND, CHRIST CAME AND IT WAS A
  • 00:51:21.070 --> 00:51:21.280
  • PROCESS.
  • 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.110
  • IT WASN'T THIS INSTANTANEOUS
  • 00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:25.280
  • JUST, YOU KNOW, MOMENT.
  • 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.250
  • AND IT'S BEEN A PROCESS.
  • 00:51:26.250 --> 00:51:28.090
  • IT'S BEEN 18 YEARS, NOW, AND
  • 00:51:28.090 --> 00:51:29.120
  • IT'S BEEN A WALK, A JOURNEY
  • 00:51:29.120 --> 00:51:30.190
  • WITH THE LORD.
  • 00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:32.070
  • UH, BUT FAITH PLAYS A ROLE IN
  • 00:51:32.070 --> 00:51:33.250
  • EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:51:33.250 --> 00:51:36.080
  • I ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
  • 00:51:36.080 --> 00:51:37.190
  • WANT JESUS JUST TO BE A PIECE
  • 00:51:37.190 --> 00:51:39.050
  • OF MY LIFE; I WANT HIM TO BE
  • 00:51:39.050 --> 00:51:40.060
  • THE CENTERPIECE OF ALL THAT I
  • 00:51:40.060 --> 00:51:43.050
  • HAVE IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:51:43.050 --> 00:51:43.220
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...
  • 00:51:43.220 --> 00:51:44.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:44.120 --> 00:51:45.010
  • - JASON: I REALLY DO.
  • 00:51:45.010 --> 00:51:45.180
  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
  • 00:51:45.180 --> 00:51:46.110
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:47.040
  • - JASON: AND...
  • 00:51:47.040 --> 00:51:47.230
  • - DARRYL: GOOD.
  • 00:51:47.230 --> 00:51:48.160
  • [JASON LAUGHS]
  • 00:51:48.160 --> 00:51:49.000
  • - JASON: THAT'S IT.
  • 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:49.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:49.210 --> 00:51:50.070
  • AND SO, FAITH PLAYS A ROLE IN
  • 00:51:50.070 --> 00:51:51.140
  • ALL OF THAT -- AND ESPECIALLY
  • 00:51:51.140 --> 00:51:52.200
  • MOVING FORWARD IN FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:51:52.200 --> 00:51:54.080
  • YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS ANOTHER
  • 00:51:54.080 --> 00:51:55.230
  • THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO
  • 00:51:55.230 --> 00:51:56.230
  • ME AS I WALKED THROUGH THIS
  • 00:51:56.230 --> 00:51:58.100
  • PROCESS OF FORGIVENESS WAS THIS
  • 00:51:58.100 --> 00:52:00.020
  • WORD "EMPATHY"...
  • 00:52:00.020 --> 00:52:01.100
  • - CLIFTON: MMH.
  • 00:52:01.100 --> 00:52:01.240
  • - JASON: ...WHICH WE DON'T
  • 00:52:01.240 --> 00:52:02.140
  • TEND TO HAVE A LOT OF IN
  • 00:52:02.140 --> 00:52:03.020
  • SOCIETY TODAY...
  • 00:52:03.020 --> 00:52:03.200
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT.
  • 00:52:03.200 --> 00:52:05.020
  • - JASON: ...MUCH LESS--
  • 00:52:05.020 --> 00:52:05.200
  • ESPECIALLY IN SOCIAL-MEDIA
  • 00:52:05.200 --> 00:52:06.180
  • WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN.
  • 00:52:06.180 --> 00:52:07.070
  • BUT, THIS EMPATHY -- IF WE
  • 00:52:07.070 --> 00:52:08.230
  • COULD START TO SEE THINGS FROM
  • 00:52:08.230 --> 00:52:10.060
  • THE OTHER PERSON'S POINT OF
  • 00:52:10.060 --> 00:52:11.200
  • VIEW, WHICH WAS SO HARD WHEN MY
  • 00:52:11.200 --> 00:52:13.130
  • DAD WAS HURTING ME, TO SEE IT
  • 00:52:13.130 --> 00:52:15.070
  • FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW.
  • 00:52:15.070 --> 00:52:16.130
  • AND AS I LOOKED BACK NOW AND I
  • 00:52:16.130 --> 00:52:17.250
  • SAW IT FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW,
  • 00:52:17.250 --> 00:52:19.160
  • HE WASN'T EXACTLY HAPPY OF THE
  • 00:52:19.160 --> 00:52:21.130
  • SITUATION HE WAS IN, EITHER.
  • 00:52:21.130 --> 00:52:22.090
  • - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
  • 00:52:22.090 --> 00:52:23.040
  • - CLIFTON: HMH.
  • 00:52:23.040 --> 00:52:23.200
  • - JASON: AND SO, THAT REALLY
  • 00:52:23.200 --> 00:52:24.190
  • HELPED ME INTO A PLACE FOR
  • 00:52:24.190 --> 00:52:26.140
  • FORGIVENESS WAS HAVING EMPATHY
  • 00:52:26.140 --> 00:52:28.000
  • FOR, REALLY, THE FIRST TIME IN
  • 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:28.210
  • MY LIFE, FOR MY DAD, AT 40
  • 00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:29.110
  • YEARS OLD.
  • 00:52:29.110 --> 00:52:30.090
  • - CLIFTON: MMH.
  • 00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:31.020
  • - JASON: SO, I-- I ENCOURAGE
  • 00:52:31.020 --> 00:52:31.290
  • ANYONE'S WHO'S STRUGGLING WITH
  • 00:52:31.290 --> 00:52:32.290
  • FORGIVENESS TO REALLY--
  • 00:52:32.290 --> 00:52:35.220
  • IT DOESN'T MEAN -- AGAIN -- THAT
  • 00:52:35.220 --> 00:52:36.140
  • YOU'RE LETTING THEM OFF THE
  • 00:52:36.140 --> 00:52:37.040
  • HOOK.
  • 00:52:37.040 --> 00:52:37.130
  • BUT I THINK HAVING AN
  • 00:52:37.130 --> 00:52:38.000
  • EMPATHETIC HEART...
  • 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:39.120
  • 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT JESUS DOES.
  • 00:52:39.120 --> 00:52:40.040
  • HE'S THE ONE THAT'LL TAKE A
  • 00:52:40.040 --> 00:52:41.240
  • PICTURE WITH US ON OUR
  • 00:52:41.240 --> 00:52:42.120
  • WORST DAY.
  • 00:52:42.120 --> 00:52:42.230
  • - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
  • 00:52:42.230 --> 00:52:43.090
  • - JASON: RIGHT?
  • 00:52:43.090 --> 00:52:43.230
  • - DARRYL: AMEN.
  • 00:52:43.230 --> 00:52:44.070
  • THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:52:44.070 --> 00:52:44.200
  • - JASON: HE'S THE ONLY ONE!
  • 00:52:44.200 --> 00:52:45.260
  • AND SO, WE HAVE TO BEGIN TO
  • 00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:46.240
  • HAVE AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF
  • 00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:47.230
  • EMPATHY IN OUR LIVES AS WE LOOK
  • 00:52:47.230 --> 00:52:49.130
  • AT PEOPLE WHO'VE HURT US.
  • 00:52:49.130 --> 00:52:50.140
  • - CLIFTON: MMH...
  • 00:52:50.140 --> 00:52:51.000
  • - JASON: SO...
  • 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:51.270
  • - CLIFTON: YES. ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:52:51.270 --> 00:52:52.170
  • I GOT THE PRIVILEGE OF
  • 00:52:52.170 --> 00:52:54.060
  • FORGIVING MY FATHER, AS WELL,
  • 00:52:54.060 --> 00:52:56.030
  • FOR NEGLECTING ME, FOR NEVER
  • 00:52:57.100 --> 00:53:00.120
  • TELLING ME THAT HE LOVED ME
  • 00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:01.020
  • UNTIL I WAS ON BROADWAY.
  • 00:53:01.150 --> 00:53:04.150
  • I WAS A GROWN MAN.
  • 00:53:04.150 --> 00:53:06.250
  • AND, HE WAS,
  • 00:53:06.250 --> 00:53:08.140
  • "YOU KNOW, I LOVE YOU?"
  • 00:53:08.140 --> 00:53:09.270
  • "WHAT?"
  • 00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:10.250
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:53:10.250 --> 00:53:12.010
  • [DARRYL LAUGHS]
  • 00:53:12.010 --> 00:53:12.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:53:12.180 --> 00:53:14.030
  • - CLIFTON: (STRONG VOICE) "YOU
  • 00:53:14.030 --> 00:53:14.250
  • KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU
  • 00:53:14.250 --> 00:53:15.160
  • EVER SAID THAT TO ME?"
  • 00:53:15.160 --> 00:53:16.030
  • - JASON: WOW.
  • 00:53:16.030 --> 00:53:17.030
  • - CLIFTON: OH...IT WAS...IT
  • 00:53:17.030 --> 00:53:17.230
  • WAS DEEP.
  • 00:53:17.230 --> 00:53:18.180
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:53:18.180 --> 00:53:19.230
  • - CLIFTON: BUT, BY GOD'S
  • 00:53:19.230 --> 00:53:20.140
  • GRACE, I GOT TO TALK TO HIM
  • 00:53:20.140 --> 00:53:21.270
  • ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
  • 00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:24.060
  • AND HERE'S-- AND I DON'T MEAN
  • 00:53:24.060 --> 00:53:25.220
  • TO TAKE YOUR TIME, BUT, I GOTTA
  • 00:53:25.220 --> 00:53:26.140
  • TELL YOU THIS.
  • 00:53:26.140 --> 00:53:28.210
  • - DARRYL: NO, YOU'RE FINE.
  • 00:53:28.210 --> 00:53:29.110
  • - CLIFTON: GOD WORKS THIS
  • 00:53:29.110 --> 00:53:30.000
  • THING OUT.
  • 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.150
  • UH, MY FATHER HAD COPD, SMOKED
  • 00:53:32.150 --> 00:53:33.190
  • THREE PACKS OF CAMELS A DAY
  • 00:53:33.190 --> 00:53:35.090
  • ALL OF HIS LIFE.
  • 00:53:35.090 --> 00:53:37.000
  • AND, FINALLY, IN '72, HE
  • 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.120
  • COULDN'T TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF.
  • 00:53:39.120 --> 00:53:41.080
  • HE COULDN'T WALK ACROSS THIS
  • 00:53:41.080 --> 00:53:42.060
  • STAGE.
  • 00:53:42.060 --> 00:53:43.220
  • SO, I SAID: "THAT'S IT.
  • 00:53:43.220 --> 00:53:45.150
  • YOU'RE LEAVIN' VIRGINIA.
  • 00:53:45.150 --> 00:53:46.030
  • YOU'RE COMIN' TO STAY WITH ME."
  • 00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:47.070
  • SO, I BROUGHT HIM OUT TO
  • 00:53:47.070 --> 00:53:48.140
  • CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:53:48.140 --> 00:53:51.010
  • AND, UH...AND HE WAS FINE FOR A
  • 00:53:51.010 --> 00:53:51.230
  • COUPLE OF MONTHS.
  • 00:53:51.230 --> 00:53:52.290
  • AND THEN, I WENT AWAY TO PREACH
  • 00:53:52.290 --> 00:53:54.180
  • SOMEWHERE, AND, UH, MY
  • 00:53:54.180 --> 00:53:57.030
  • SECRETARY SAID, "YOUR FATHER
  • 00:53:57.030 --> 00:53:58.270
  • FELL OUT."
  • 00:53:58.270 --> 00:53:59.250
  • SO, I HAD TO PUT HIM IN A HOME.
  • 00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:01.140
  • AND I CARED FOR HIM, AND I
  • 00:54:01.140 --> 00:54:03.060
  • SHAVED HIM, AND I TOOK CARE OF
  • 00:54:03.060 --> 00:54:05.190
  • HIS HAIR, AND...AND, WITH TEARS
  • 00:54:05.190 --> 00:54:07.110
  • IN HIS EYES, HE SAID, "YOU
  • 00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:08.240
  • KNOW, SON, CAN-- CAN YOU EVER
  • 00:54:08.240 --> 00:54:10.220
  • FORGIVE ME?"
  • 00:54:10.220 --> 00:54:11.150
  • I SAID: "ARE YOU KIDDING?
  • 00:54:11.150 --> 00:54:12.250
  • YOU THINK I'M TAKIN' CARE OF
  • 00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:14.220
  • YOU 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T FORGIVEN
  • 00:54:14.220 --> 00:54:15.160
  • YOU?"
  • 00:54:15.160 --> 00:54:16.290
  • [DARRYL LAUGHS]
  • 00:54:16.290 --> 00:54:17.130
  • - DARRYL: RIGHT, RIGHT.
  • 00:54:17.130 --> 00:54:18.130
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:54:18.130 --> 00:54:18.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:54:18.270 --> 00:54:19.120
  • - CLIFTON: I SAID--
  • 00:54:19.120 --> 00:54:20.180
  • - JASON: IT'S ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:54:20.180 --> 00:54:21.150
  • - CLIFTON: --"I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:54:21.150 --> 00:54:22.040
  • IT'S DONE."
  • 00:54:22.040 --> 00:54:22.210
  • AND, UH, HE SAID, "I BROUGHT
  • 00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:23.180
  • ALL OF THIS ON MYSELF, DIDN'T
  • 00:54:23.180 --> 00:54:24.190
  • I?"
  • 00:54:24.190 --> 00:54:25.240
  • AND HIS PAIN -- SUDDENLY, THE
  • 00:54:25.240 --> 00:54:28.210
  • EMPATHY I FELT FOR HIM--
  • 00:54:28.210 --> 00:54:29.240
  • - JASON: RIGHT.
  • 00:54:29.240 --> 00:54:31.260
  • - CLIFTON: --AND FOR HIS
  • 00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:32.150
  • PAIN...
  • 00:54:32.150 --> 00:54:33.240
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:54:33.240 --> 00:54:34.220
  • - CLIFTON: AND I SAID, "NO,
  • 00:54:34.220 --> 00:54:35.200
  • DAD, AN ENEMY HAS DONE THIS"--
  • 00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:36.150
  • - DARRYL: MM-HMM.
  • 00:54:36.150 --> 00:54:37.170
  • - CLIFTON: --WHICH IS WHAT THE
  • 00:54:37.170 --> 00:54:38.090
  • BIBLE SAYS.
  • 00:54:38.090 --> 00:54:38.210
  • - JASON: YEAH.
  • 00:54:38.210 --> 00:54:39.050
  • - CLIFTON: AN ENEMY HAS COME
  • 00:54:39.050 --> 00:54:39.260
  • AND DONE THIS TO YOU.
  • 00:54:39.260 --> 00:54:40.200
  • BUT, THANK GOD FOR
  • 00:54:40.200 --> 00:54:42.090
  • JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:54:42.090 --> 00:54:43.170
  • - DARRYL: YEAH!
  • 00:54:43.170 --> 00:54:44.180
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:54:44.180 --> 00:54:45.030
  • - CLIFTON: 'CAUSE HE CAN MAKE
  • 00:54:45.030 --> 00:54:45.240
  • IT ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:54:45.240 --> 00:54:46.220
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, YOU KNOW!
  • 00:54:46.220 --> 00:54:47.210
  • - JASON: THAT IS SO TRUE.
  • 00:54:47.210 --> 00:54:49.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:54:49.020 --> 00:54:52.010
  • - CLIFTON: I WONDER IF YOU
  • 00:54:52.010 --> 00:54:53.040
  • WOULD JUST SPEAK TO THE CAMERA
  • 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:56.020
  • AND TELL SOMEBODY OUT THERE
  • 00:54:56.020 --> 00:54:58.020
  • WHAT...WHAT THE ANSWER IS FOR
  • 00:54:58.020 --> 00:54:59.230
  • ADDICTION AND HOW TO ACHIEVE
  • 00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:02.000
  • - DARRYL: WELL, I'D JUST LIKE
  • 00:55:06.020 --> 00:55:07.140
  • TO SPEAK TO YOU AND TELL YOU
  • 00:55:07.140 --> 00:55:09.010
  • THE ANSWER IS JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:55:09.010 --> 00:55:09.270
  • HIMSELF.
  • 00:55:09.270 --> 00:55:10.180
  • THERE'S NO ONE GREATER, UH,
  • 00:55:10.180 --> 00:55:11.080
  • THAN HE IS.
  • 00:55:11.080 --> 00:55:12.150
  • HE'S THE GREAT I AM.
  • 00:55:12.150 --> 00:55:13.160
  • THOSE THAT MAY BE IN THE MIDST
  • 00:55:13.160 --> 00:55:15.240
  • OF STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION, I
  • 00:55:15.240 --> 00:55:16.290
  • ASK THAT YOU COME TO THE CROSS
  • 00:55:16.290 --> 00:55:18.200
  • AND SURRENDER YOURSELF.
  • 00:55:18.200 --> 00:55:19.130
  • HE LOVES YOU.
  • 00:55:21.290 --> 00:55:22.120
  • YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT HAS
  • 00:55:22.120 --> 00:55:23.060
  • HAPPENED, NO MATTER WHAT BROKEN
  • 00:55:23.060 --> 00:55:24.160
  • PIECES THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR
  • 00:55:24.160 --> 00:55:25.250
  • LIFE, ALL THOSE PIECES HE WILL
  • 00:55:25.250 --> 00:55:26.210
  • PUT BACK TOGETHER.
  • 00:55:27.230 --> 00:55:30.230
  • AND IT'S A PROCESS.
  • 00:55:30.230 --> 00:55:31.090
  • IT'S NOT A OVERNIGHT MIRACLE.
  • 00:55:31.090 --> 00:55:32.000
  • YOU DIDN'T GET IN THIS MESS
  • 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:32.200
  • OVERNIGHT, SO HE'S GONNA MEET
  • 00:55:32.200 --> 00:55:33.200
  • YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU AT.
  • 00:55:33.200 --> 00:55:34.260
  • SO, JUST...DON'T BE AFRAID TO
  • 00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:37.040
  • SHOW HIM YOUR SCARS BECAUSE
  • 00:55:37.040 --> 00:55:38.150
  • HE'S ALREADY...TOOK IT TO THE
  • 00:55:38.150 --> 00:55:39.290
  • CROSS FOR YOU.
  • 00:55:39.290 --> 00:55:41.220
  • HE'S ALREADY DONE EVERYTHING
  • 00:55:41.220 --> 00:55:43.120
  • THAT YOU NEED TO BE DONE.
  • 00:55:43.120 --> 00:55:45.030
  • HE'S WAITING ON YOU.
  • 00:55:45.030 --> 00:55:46.260
  • TURN AROUND, COME BACK HOME.
  • 00:55:46.260 --> 00:55:48.190
  • HE LOVES YOU.
  • 00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:49.210
  • JESUS IS CRAZY ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:55:49.210 --> 00:55:51.040
  • JESUS IS CRAZY ABOUT PEOPLE.
  • 00:55:51.040 --> 00:55:52.230
  • GOD'S GRACE IS SUFFICIENT.
  • 00:55:53.290 --> 00:55:56.290
  • IT MEETS YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE
  • 00:55:56.290 --> 00:55:59.020
  • AT.
  • 00:55:59.020 --> 00:55:59.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:59.250 --> 00:56:00.190
  • IT MEETS YOU IN THE MIDST OF
  • 00:56:00.190 --> 00:56:01.090
  • YOUR HARD TIMES, YOUR TROUBLES,
  • 00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:03.110
  • YOUR HURTS, YOUR HABITS --
  • 00:56:03.260 --> 00:56:06.260
  • WHATEVER IT IS.
  • 00:56:06.260 --> 00:56:08.000
  • GRACE IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO
  • 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:09.120
  • UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:56:09.120 --> 00:56:10.160
  • WE DON'T DESERVE IT.
  • 00:56:10.160 --> 00:56:11.210
  • BUT HE GIVES IT TO YOU, ANYWAY.
  • 00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:13.170
  • HE GIVES IT YOU DAILY WHEN YOU
  • 00:56:13.170 --> 00:56:15.240
  • GET UP AND WORSHIP HIM AND TELL
  • 00:56:15.240 --> 00:56:17.070
  • HIM THANK YOU.
  • 00:56:17.070 --> 00:56:18.150
  • THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE.
  • 00:56:18.150 --> 00:56:20.050
  • THANK YOU FOR YOUR MERCY.
  • 00:56:20.050 --> 00:56:21.030
  • THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE.
  • 00:56:21.030 --> 00:56:22.040
  • THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A GOOD
  • 00:56:22.040 --> 00:56:24.010
  • GOD.
  • 00:56:24.010 --> 00:56:24.160
  • I COULDN'T NEVER FIND
  • 00:56:24.160 --> 00:56:25.240
  • A PARTNER.
  • 00:56:25.240 --> 00:56:26.200
  • I WAS LOOKIN' FOR A PARTNER.
  • 00:56:26.200 --> 00:56:27.100
  • YES, I GOT A WIFE, I GOT
  • 00:56:27.100 --> 00:56:28.120
  • WONDERFUL KIDS, BUT I WAS
  • 00:56:28.120 --> 00:56:29.240
  • LOOKIN' FOR A PARTNER THAT I
  • 00:56:29.240 --> 00:56:30.190
  • COULD FIND THAT I COULD TALK TO
  • 00:56:30.190 --> 00:56:31.120
  • EVERY DAY.
  • 00:56:31.120 --> 00:56:33.270
  • AND I MET THIS MAN NAMED JESUS.
  • 00:56:33.270 --> 00:56:34.210
  • AND I STARTED TALKIN' TO HIM,
  • 00:56:34.210 --> 00:56:35.130
  • HE STARTED SPEAKIN' BACK TO ME,
  • 00:56:35.130 --> 00:56:37.060
  • AND HE STARTED SHOWIN' ME THE
  • 00:56:37.060 --> 00:56:38.070
  • CREATION OF WHY HE CREATED
  • 00:56:38.070 --> 00:56:39.200
  • US: NOT TO BE LOST, BUT TO BE
  • 00:56:39.200 --> 00:56:41.120
  • SAVED, TO BE WHOLE, TO BE
  • 00:56:41.120 --> 00:56:42.240
  • RIGHTEOUS.
  • 00:56:42.240 --> 00:56:43.240
  • SO, GOD IS SPEAKING TO YOU,
  • 00:56:43.240 --> 00:56:45.100
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:56:45.100 --> 00:56:46.050
  • HE CARES ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:56:46.050 --> 00:56:47.110
  • GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM.
  • 00:56:47.110 --> 00:56:49.100
  • IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:56:49.100 --> 00:56:50.110
  • - JASON: AMEN.
  • 00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:51.130
  • - CLIFTON: LADIES AND
  • 00:56:51.130 --> 00:56:52.010
  • GENTLEMEN, I--
  • 00:56:52.010 --> 00:56:54.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:56:54.170 --> 00:56:56.130
  • IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE.
  • 00:56:56.130 --> 00:56:57.290
  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:56:57.290 --> 00:56:58.290
  • THANK YOU, DARRYL STRAWBERRY!
  • 00:56:58.290 --> 00:56:59.200
  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:56:59.200 --> 00:57:01.050
  • THANK YOU, JASON ROMANO!
  • 00:57:01.130 --> 00:57:04.130
  • AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING,
  • 00:57:04.130 --> 00:57:05.100
  • WHEREVER YOU ARE.
  • 00:57:05.100 --> 00:57:07.100
  • [CLOSING THEME PLAYS]
  • 00:57:20.140 --> 00:57:23.140