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Praise | Gloria Gaynor | 10/9/18

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October 9, 2018
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Clifton Davis hosts Gloria Gaynor.

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Praise | Gloria Gaynor | 10/9/18

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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT, THE QUEEN OF DISCO,
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  • GLORIA GAYNOR.
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  • - GLORIA GAYNOR: I WANT TO KNOW WHO THIS JESUS IS.
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  • I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT FROM ANYBODY ELSE.
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  • IF YOU CAN TALK TO A PREACHER, A PRIEST, A
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  • RABBI, YOU CAN TALK TO ME.
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  • I'M HERE. I'M LISTENING. TALK.
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  • GUESS WHAT?
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  • HE TALKED.
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  • - ANNOUNCER: NEXT ON PRAISE.
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  • [ MUSIC ]
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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON PRAISE, FROM NEW YORK,
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  • GRAMMY AWARD WINNING SINGER AND SONGWRITER,
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  • BEST-SELLING AUTHOR AND THE QUEEN OF DISCO
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  • GLORIA GAYNOR.
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  • [ MUSIC ]
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  • HELLO, HELLO, HELLO, HELLO.
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  • HA-HA-HA.
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  • HI, WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU.
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  • I LOVE A GREAT NEW YORK
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  • AUDIENCE.
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  • IT FEELS GOOD TO BE HERE.
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  • GOD BLESS YOU.
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  • ARE YOU READY FOR YOUR BLESSING?
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  • - CLIFTON: I PROMISE YOU, GOD
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  • NEVER FAILS.
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  • HE ALWAYS DELIVERS ON THE
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  • BLESSING.
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  • HAVE A SEAT.
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  • WE'VE GOT A WONDERFUL PROGRAM
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  • PLANNED FOR YOU TONIGHT.
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  • I WAS JUST AT THE THEATER WHERE
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  • WE DO DISNEY'S "ALADDIN," AND I
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  • WITNESS OVER THERE WHILE I'M
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  • ALSO WORKING AS THE SULTAN, AND
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  • ONE OF OUR STAGE MANAGERS RUNS
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  • IN THE NEW YORK CITY MARATHON
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  • AND RAN RECENTLY LAST YEAR IN
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  • THE MARATHON AND IS RUNNING IN
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  • MARATHONS ALL THE TIME,
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  • AND IT'S A LADY, AND SHE
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  • FINISHES THE MARATHON AND COMES
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  • TO WORK ON A TWO-SHOW DAY AND
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  • DOES TWO SHOWS AFTER RUNNING
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  • 26.2 MILES, AND I'M ALWAYS
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  • AMAZED.
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  • I SAID, "HOW CAN YOU EVEN STAND
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  • UP?"
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • MY GOODNESS!
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  • BUT SHE SOMEHOW ENDURES, AND THE
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  • SPIRIT OF GOD TELLS US THAT WE
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  • NEED TO ENDURE IN ORDER TO BE
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  • SAVED.
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  • IT SAID, "HE THAT ENDURETH TO
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  • THE END WILL BE SAVED."
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  • GOD IS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE
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  • TO SURVIVE.
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  • GOD IS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO
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  • CAN ENDURE.
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  • CAN YOU ENDURE?
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  • - AUDIENCE: YEAH!
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  • - CLIFTON: I KNOW I'M
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  • DETERMINED.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • I'M DETERMINED TO ENDURE.
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  • IN FACT, I WILL SURVIVE.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • ALL RIGHT, I SET YOU UP.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • FIRST, I WAS AFRAID.
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  • I WAS PETRIFIED,
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  • KEPT THINKIN' I COULD NEVER
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  • LIVE WITHOUT YOU BY MY SIDE
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  • - FEMALE NARRATOR: GLORIA
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  • GAYNOR'S LEGENDARY CAREER SPANS
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  • THE PAST 40 YEARS, WITH NO END
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  • IN SIGHT.
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  • THE GRAMMY AWARD WINNER HAS
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  • REACHED GLOBAL STARDOM WITH MANY
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  • NUMBER ONE HITS AND HAS BEEN
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  • DUBBED "THE QUEEN OF DISCO."
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  • GLORIA CONTINUES TO PERFORM
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  • AROUND THE WORLD AND HELPS
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  • SPREAD INSPIRATION TO THOSE WHO
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  • NEED IT.
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  • WITH HER HIT SONG, "I WILL
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  • SURVIVE," GLORIA GAYNOR HAS USED
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  • IT AS A MANTRA, NOT ONLY FOR
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  • HER, BUT FOR MILLIONS OF OTHER
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  • PEOPLE.
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  • IT BIRTHED THE CHARITABLE
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  • ORGANIZATION SHE USES TO SUPPORT
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  • SURVIVORS OF ALL KINDS.
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  • GLORIA IS ALSO AN AUTHOR, AND
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  • HER SECOND BOOK, "WE WILL
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  • SURVIVE: TRUE STORIES OF
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  • ENCOURAGEMENT, INSPIRATION, AND
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  • THE POWER OF SONG," SHARES
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  • REMARKABLE STORIES OF
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  • INDIVIDUALS TRIUMPHING OVER
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  • ILLNESS, SUFFERING, AND HOW IT
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  • HELPED PIECE THEIR LIVES BACK
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  • TOGETHER.
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  • TODAY ON "PRAISE," GLORIA WILL
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  • SHARE HER LIFE STORY AND FAITH
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  • WHILE TALKING ABOUT THE
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  • IMPORTANCE OF SURVIVING WITH THE
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  • HELP OF GOD.
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  • PLEASE WELCOME GLORIA GAYNOR.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - GLORIA: YEAH, KEEP YOUR HANDS
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  • TOGETHER RIGHT THERE.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • I HEAR 'EM TALKIN'
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  • ABOUT THE SAME OLE THINGS,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT MONEY, HONEY,
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  • STATUS, POWER, AND FAME
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  • BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ABOT
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  • AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT
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  • YET,
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  • THEN YOUR WHOLE WORLD 'BOUT O
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT LOVE,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT FREEDOM,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE YOU CAN
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  • DEPEND ON WHEN YOU NEED HIM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MERCY,
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  • GRACE, AND FORGIVENESS,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • MM, GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY, YOU
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  • NEED TO HEAR THIS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • BUT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • BUT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • STOP, YOU CAN'T DO IT ALONE
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  • AND IF YOU THINK THAT YOUR
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  • LIFE IS HOPELESS,
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  • YOU'RE PLAIN, DEAD WRONG,
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  • 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMEBODY
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  • WHO CAME TO SAVE YOUR LIFE,
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  • AND WITHOUT HIS HAND LEADING
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  • EVERY STEP OF THE WAY,
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  • YOU WON'T SURVIVE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT LOVE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT FREEDOM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE YOU
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  • CAN DEPEND ON WHEN YOU NEED HIM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MERCY,
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  • GRACE, AND FORGIVENESS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • MM, GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY,
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  • YOU NEED TO HEAR THIS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT, BUT I'M
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • BUT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • JESUS
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  • NOW, LET ME HEAR YA SAY,
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  • J-E-S-U-S, UH-HUH,
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  • J-E-S-U-S,
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  • HEY-HEY
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  • AH, YEAH, J-E-S-U-S,
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  • OOH-HOO,
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  • UH-HUH, J-E-S-U-S,
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  • HEY-HEY,
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  • YEAH, YEAH
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  • HEY, I'M TALKIN' ABOUT LOVE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT FREEDOM
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE YOU CAN
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  • DEPEND ON WHEN YOU NEED HIM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MERCY,
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  • GRACE, AND FORGIVENESS
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT, MM, GOOD GOD
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  • ALMIGHTY, YOU NEED TO HEAR THIS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS, JESS
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  • JESUS, JESUS, TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • MY, MY JESUS
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  • JESUS, I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESS
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT MY JESUS
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT MY JESUS, MY
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  • JESUS.
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  • JESUS, YEAH, YEAH
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE WHO GOT
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  • ME
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  • J-E-S-U-S, MADE ME FREE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • SAVED MY LIFE, SET ME FREE
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  • OH, YEAH, TALKIN' ABOUT MY
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  • JESUS
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  • MY JESUS, MY JESUS
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
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  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - CLIFTON: WHAT A WONDERFUL,
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  • WONDERFUL RENDITION, MY
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  • GOODNESS.
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  • GLORIA, YOU'RE JUST AMAZING, AND
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  • YOU HOLD YOUR OWN AFTER ALL
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  • THESE YEARS.
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  • I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR MANY YEARS.
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  • IT'S REALLY A BLESSING.
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  • YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE SAY
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  • IN CHRISTIANITY THAT WE KNOW THE
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  • LORD, AND THAT MAY NOT BE A
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  • PHRASE THAT EVERYBODY
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  • UNDERSTANDS, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU
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  • WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
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  • MEAN WHEN WE SAY WE'VE COME TO
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  • KNOW THE LORD, LET ME SHARE WITH
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  • YOU THAT BY FAITH, BY TRUSTING
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  • IN HIS WORD, AND BY BELIEVING
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  • THAT HE IS ACTIVE IN OUR LIVES,
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  • WE GET TO KNOW HIM, AND IT
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  • BECOMES A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.
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  • - GLORIA: OH, AND WHAT AN
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  • AWESOME PRIVILEGE THAT IS.
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  • - CLIFTON: YES, AND HOW LONG
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  • HAVE YOU KNOWN THE LORD?
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  • - GLORIA: WELL, I'VE KNOWN THE
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  • LORD FOR, PHOOF, WELL, LET ME
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  • SINCE 1982.
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  • I CAME TO A POINT IN MY LIFE
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  • WHERE I FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, GOD
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  • HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO ME, AND I
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  • THINK I NEED TO GIVE HIM SOME
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  • AS IF IT'S NOT ALL HIS.
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  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - GLORIA: SO I WAS GONNA
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  • GIVE HIM SOME TIME.
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  • SO I DECIDED TO GO TO CHURCH,
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  • AND MY MOTHER WAS BROUGHT UP IN
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  • CHURCH.
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  • SHE WAS INUNDATED WITH CHURCH,
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  • AND SHE MADE A SOLID VOW THAT,
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  • WHEN SHE HAD CHILDREN, SHE
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  • WOULDN'T MAKE THEM GO TO CHURCH,
  • 00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:02.250
  • SO SHE DIDN'T MAKE US GO TO
  • 00:09:02.250 --> 00:09:03.150
  • CHURCH, AND LAZY CHILDREN, WE
  • 00:09:03.150 --> 00:09:04.060
  • DIDN'T GO.
  • 00:09:04.060 --> 00:09:05.120
  • BUT I DECIDED, AT THIS POINT IN
  • 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:06.180
  • MY LIFE, I WAS GONNA GO TO
  • 00:09:06.180 --> 00:09:08.050
  • CHURCH, AND SO I WENT TO THE
  • 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.240
  • CHURCH THAT MY MOTHER AND MY
  • 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.160
  • GRANDMOTHER HAD GONE TO.
  • 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:15.080
  • IT WAS STILL THERE, AND SO THE
  • 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:16.110
  • DAY THAT I WENT, SOMEBODY WAS
  • 00:09:16.110 --> 00:09:18.260
  • BEING ACCEPTED AS A MEMBER OF
  • 00:09:19.260 --> 00:09:22.260
  • THAT CHURCH.
  • 00:09:22.260 --> 00:09:24.290
  • THEY WERE FROM ANOTHER CHURCH,
  • 00:09:24.290 --> 00:09:26.110
  • AND THEY HAD MOVED INTO THE
  • 00:09:26.110 --> 00:09:28.080
  • CITY, AND THEY WANTED TO BE A
  • 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:29.160
  • MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH, AND THEY
  • 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.200
  • SAID THEM-- WELL, THEY BROUGHT
  • 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:33.290
  • THEM UP FRONT AND ASKED THEM,
  • 00:09:33.290 --> 00:09:35.220
  • "DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE DEATH,
  • 00:09:35.220 --> 00:09:36.140
  • BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION OF
  • 00:09:36.140 --> 00:09:37.040
  • CHRIST?"
  • 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:38.100
  • AND THEY SAID, "YES," AND THEN A
  • 00:09:38.100 --> 00:09:40.290
  • FEW MORE THINGS THEY SAID, AND
  • 00:09:40.290 --> 00:09:42.170
  • THEN THEY GAVE THEM WHAT THEY
  • 00:09:42.170 --> 00:09:43.280
  • CALLED "THE RIGHT HAND OF
  • 00:09:43.280 --> 00:09:44.170
  • FELLOWSHIP," AND I WENT HOME
  • 00:09:44.170 --> 00:09:45.270
  • THINKING, "OH, I CAN'T SAY THAT
  • 00:09:45.270 --> 00:09:48.260
  • BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
  • 00:09:48.260 --> 00:09:49.250
  • MEANS."
  • 00:09:49.250 --> 00:09:52.100
  • AND I DO HAVE TOO MUCH
  • 00:09:52.100 --> 00:09:53.080
  • RESPECT FOR GOD TO STAND UP IN
  • 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:56.040
  • CHURCH AND LIE.
  • 00:09:56.040 --> 00:09:58.030
  • BUT I WENT HOME AND I SAT DOWN
  • 00:09:58.030 --> 00:09:59.280
  • AT MY DINING ROOM TABLE, AND I
  • 00:10:00.050 --> 00:10:03.050
  • PULLED OUT A BIBLE THAT SOMEONE
  • 00:10:03.050 --> 00:10:05.000
  • HAD GIVEN ME SOME YEARS BEFORE,
  • 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:05.280
  • AND-- [BLOWING] -- BLEW THE DUST
  • 00:10:05.280 --> 00:10:06.200
  • OFF IT 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER READ
  • 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:07.110
  • IT.
  • 00:10:07.110 --> 00:10:08.260
  • AND I SAID, "OKAY, LORD,
  • 00:10:08.260 --> 00:10:10.230
  • SHOWDOWN."
  • 00:10:10.290 --> 00:10:13.290
  • YOU KNOW, I LOOK BACK
  • 00:10:13.290 --> 00:10:14.280
  • ON THAT AND REALIZE I'M SASSIN'
  • 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:15.200
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:16.150
  • SO I SAID, "SHOWDOWN.
  • 00:10:16.150 --> 00:10:18.150
  • I WANNA KNOW WHO THIS JESUS IS.
  • 00:10:18.150 --> 00:10:21.060
  • WHO IS JESUS?
  • 00:10:21.060 --> 00:10:23.060
  • AND I DON'T WANNA HEAR THIS FROM
  • 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:26.200
  • THE LADY UPSTAIRS AND THE MAN
  • 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:27.110
  • DOWN THE HALL.
  • 00:10:27.110 --> 00:10:28.060
  • I DON'T WANNA HEAR IT FROM
  • 00:10:28.060 --> 00:10:28.250
  • ANYBODY ELSE.
  • 00:10:28.250 --> 00:10:29.260
  • IF YOU CAN TALK TO A PREACHER, A
  • 00:10:29.260 --> 00:10:31.040
  • PRIEST, A RABBI, YOU COULD TALK
  • 00:10:31.040 --> 00:10:32.100
  • TO ME.
  • 00:10:32.100 --> 00:10:33.080
  • I'M HERE.
  • 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:33.240
  • I'M LISTENING.
  • 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:34.180
  • TALK."
  • 00:10:34.180 --> 00:10:35.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:35.160 --> 00:10:37.080
  • - CLIFTON: I LOVE IT!
  • 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:37.250
  • - GLORIA: AND GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:10:37.250 --> 00:10:38.210
  • - CLIFTON: HE TALKED.
  • 00:10:38.210 --> 00:10:39.080
  • - GLORIA: HE TALKED.
  • 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:40.180
  • HE TALKED.
  • 00:10:40.180 --> 00:10:42.050
  • HE TOLD ME TO OPEN THAT BIBLE TO
  • 00:10:42.050 --> 00:10:42.270
  • THE CENTER.
  • 00:10:42.270 --> 00:10:44.000
  • I'VE NEVER OPENED IT.
  • 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.130
  • I OPENED IT IN THE CENTER, AND
  • 00:10:46.130 --> 00:10:47.150
  • IN THE CENTER OF THE BIBLE WAS
  • 00:10:48.220 --> 00:10:51.220
  • WHAT WAS CALLED "THE HARMONIES
  • 00:10:51.220 --> 00:10:52.130
  • OF THE GOSPELS."
  • 00:10:52.130 --> 00:10:54.070
  • ON ONE SIDE OF THE PAGE,
  • 00:10:54.160 --> 00:10:57.160
  • A LIST OF PROPHECIES OF THE
  • 00:10:57.160 --> 00:10:58.250
  • FORTHCOMING MESSIAH, AND THEN
  • 00:10:58.250 --> 00:11:00.130
  • ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
  • 00:11:00.130 --> 00:11:02.000
  • PAGE, A LIST OF SCRIPTURES
  • 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.240
  • WHEREIN CHRIST HAD FULFILLED
  • 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.090
  • THOSE PROPHECIES, AND ONE OF
  • 00:11:05.090 --> 00:11:07.170
  • THEM WAS ISAIAH 7:14,
  • 00:11:07.170 --> 00:11:09.040
  • "FOR BEHOLD, A VIRGIN SHALL
  • 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:11.030
  • CONCEIVE,
  • 00:11:11.030 --> 00:11:11.250
  • AND BEAR A SON, AND SHALL CALL
  • 00:11:11.250 --> 00:11:13.060
  • AND THAT BIBLE TOLD ME THAT
  • 00:11:15.250 --> 00:11:18.070
  • "IMMANUEL" MEANT "GOD WITH US."
  • 00:11:18.070 --> 00:11:19.170
  • WELL, WHEN I READ THOSE WORDS,
  • 00:11:19.170 --> 00:11:21.220
  • "GOD WITH US," IT SHOOK ME TO MY
  • 00:11:21.220 --> 00:11:22.140
  • CORE.
  • 00:11:22.140 --> 00:11:24.110
  • I WAS LIKE, "OH, MY GOD, OH, MY
  • 00:11:24.110 --> 00:11:25.250
  • AND I SAT THERE WITH THAT BIBLE
  • 00:11:29.150 --> 00:11:31.250
  • FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF.
  • 00:11:31.250 --> 00:11:34.000
  • I, REALIZING IN RETROSPECT, IT
  • 00:11:34.130 --> 00:11:37.130
  • WAS ME AND THE HOLY SPIRIT,
  • 00:11:37.130 --> 00:11:39.000
  • TAKING ME THROUGH THAT BIBLE,
  • 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.040
  • LESSONS AND THE HARMONIES AND
  • 00:11:41.150 --> 00:11:44.150
  • THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE FAITH,
  • 00:11:44.150 --> 00:11:46.230
  • AND THAT'S WHEN AND HOW I CAME
  • 00:11:46.230 --> 00:11:48.210
  • TO KNOW THE LORD, ALL BY MYSELF,
  • 00:11:48.210 --> 00:11:49.290
  • JUST ME AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:11:49.290 --> 00:11:52.000
  • I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT AN
  • 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:53.200
  • AWESOME PRIVILEGE THAT WAS, AND
  • 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:57.000
  • SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ME AND
  • 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.190
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:11:59.190 --> 00:12:02.090
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:12:02.090 --> 00:12:03.120
  • THE WORLD DIDN'T GIVE IT,
  • 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.060
  • AND THE WORLD CAN'T TAKE
  • 00:12:04.060 --> 00:12:04.240
  • IT AWAY.
  • 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:05.150
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:07.060 --> 00:12:10.060
  • YOUR MOTHER WAS IN THE CHURCH,
  • 00:12:10.060 --> 00:12:12.080
  • BUT AS A CHILD, YOU DIDN'T GO TO
  • 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.090
  • CHURCH, SO IT WAS THAT
  • 00:12:14.090 --> 00:12:16.180
  • EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:12:16.180 --> 00:12:18.160
  • YOU HAD TO COME THROUGH.
  • 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:21.160
  • YOUR CAREER HAD ALREADY STARTED.
  • 00:12:21.160 --> 00:12:23.000
  • YOU HAD BECOME FAMOUS.
  • 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:23.280
  • YOU HAD GONE OUT INTO THE WORLD,
  • 00:12:23.280 --> 00:12:26.070
  • AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THEN THAT
  • 00:12:26.070 --> 00:12:28.180
  • SOMETHING TOUCHED YOU TO SAY,
  • 00:12:29.130 --> 00:12:32.130
  • "TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT GOD HAS IN
  • 00:12:32.130 --> 00:12:34.220
  • STORE FOR YOU."
  • 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:36.220
  • - GLORIA: YEAH.
  • 00:12:36.220 --> 00:12:38.270
  • - CLIFTON: DID YOU FEEL LOVED
  • 00:12:38.270 --> 00:12:39.210
  • AS A CHILD?
  • 00:12:39.210 --> 00:12:41.060
  • DID YOU FEEL EMBRACED BY YOUR
  • 00:12:41.060 --> 00:12:42.230
  • PARENTS AND--
  • 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:44.010
  • - GLORIA: BY MY MOTHER.
  • 00:12:44.010 --> 00:12:44.290
  • MY MOTHER WAS A SINGLE PARENT,
  • 00:12:44.290 --> 00:12:46.190
  • SIX CHILDREN-- SEVEN CHILDREN--
  • 00:12:46.190 --> 00:12:49.100
  • SIX SIBLINGS, IN A ONE-BEDROOM
  • 00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:51.280
  • APARTMENT.
  • 00:12:51.280 --> 00:12:53.140
  • - CLIFTON: MM.
  • 00:12:53.140 --> 00:12:55.010
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE
  • 00:12:55.010 --> 00:12:55.230
  • MUCH.
  • 00:12:55.230 --> 00:12:57.080
  • I REMEMBER MY MOTHER SENDIN' ME
  • 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:58.000
  • TO THE STORE TO BUY DINNER WITH
  • 00:12:58.000 --> 00:12:58.260
  • 25 CENTS.
  • 00:12:59.050 --> 00:13:02.070
  • - CLIFTON: LORD, HAVE MERCY.
  • 00:13:02.070 --> 00:13:03.140
  • - GLORIA: TEN CENTS, FIFTEEN
  • 00:13:03.140 --> 00:13:04.110
  • CENTS WORTH OF BACON SKINS AND
  • 00:13:04.110 --> 00:13:05.100
  • 10 CENTS WORTH OF BEANS.
  • 00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:07.060
  • BUT SHE WORKED THOSE SPICES, AND
  • 00:13:07.060 --> 00:13:10.030
  • WE HAD COMPANY FOR DINNER.
  • 00:13:10.030 --> 00:13:12.050
  • MY MOTHER WAS AN AWESOME COOK,
  • 00:13:12.050 --> 00:13:13.170
  • AND PEOPLE WOULD COME AND LEAVE
  • 00:13:13.170 --> 00:13:15.080
  • THEIR CHOPS AND THEIR STEAKS AND
  • 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.090
  • WHATEVER, AND COME AND EAT BEANS
  • 00:13:17.090 --> 00:13:20.070
  • WITH US AND BREAD, FLAT BREAD,
  • 00:13:20.070 --> 00:13:22.200
  • WHERE SHE MADE IT IN AN ANIMAL
  • 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.000
  • SHAPE, OH, YEAH.
  • 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.080
  • - CLIFTON: I WAS WORKIN' ON
  • 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:26.180
  • "MADAM SECRETARY" THE OTHER DAY,
  • 00:13:27.090 --> 00:13:30.090
  • AND THEY WERE OFFERING ME SOME
  • 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:32.190
  • FOOD FROM WHAT THEY CALL CRAFTY
  • 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:33.160
  • CRAFT SERVICES.
  • 00:13:33.160 --> 00:13:35.150
  • I SAID, "WELL, WHAT DO THEY
  • 00:13:35.150 --> 00:13:36.200
  • GOT?"
  • 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:37.090
  • THEY SAID, "THEY'VE GOT SOME
  • 00:13:37.090 --> 00:13:39.190
  • GNOCCI, AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE
  • 00:13:39.190 --> 00:13:42.180
  • BROCCOLI RAVIOLI."
  • 00:13:42.180 --> 00:13:43.100
  • I SAID, "NO,
  • 00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:43.250
  • THAT'S OKAY.
  • 00:13:43.250 --> 00:13:45.080
  • I'M A GO HOME AND HAVE SOME
  • 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:45.290
  • BEANS AND FRANKS."
  • 00:13:45.290 --> 00:13:46.160
  • - GLORIA: I HEAR THAT.
  • 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:48.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.090
  • OH, YES.
  • 00:13:50.090 --> 00:13:51.080
  • - CLIFTON: I NEEDED A LITTLE
  • 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:51.290
  • COMFORT FOOD, YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:13:51.290 --> 00:13:53.010
  • STUFF THAT I REMEMBER BACK IN
  • 00:13:53.010 --> 00:13:54.280
  • THE DAY, AND IT WASN'T ALWAYS
  • 00:13:54.280 --> 00:13:56.110
  • FRANKS, AND SOMETIMES THERE
  • 00:13:56.110 --> 00:13:57.220
  • WASN'T ALWAYS BEANS.
  • 00:13:57.220 --> 00:14:00.150
  • - GLORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:14:00.150 --> 00:14:01.020
  • - CLIFTON: BUT GOD HAS BEEN
  • 00:14:01.020 --> 00:14:01.240
  • GOOD, AND HE BROUGHT US ALL
  • 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:02.200
  • THROUGH ON THAT JOURNEY.
  • 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:03.100
  • HOW 'BOUT THAT?
  • 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:04.030
  • - GLORIA: YES, YES.
  • 00:14:04.030 --> 00:14:05.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:14:05.260 --> 00:14:08.260
  • - CLIFTON: SO YOU DIDN'T
  • 00:14:08.260 --> 00:14:10.070
  • GO TO CHURCH AS A CHILD,
  • 00:14:10.070 --> 00:14:11.160
  • BUT HOW DID THE DECISION TO
  • 00:14:11.170 --> 00:14:14.170
  • BECOME A CHRISTIAN AND TO COME
  • 00:14:14.170 --> 00:14:16.060
  • TO KNOW GOD AFFECT YOUR CAREER?
  • 00:14:16.060 --> 00:14:18.290
  • BECAUSE YOU WERE ALREADY A
  • 00:14:18.290 --> 00:14:20.100
  • DISCO DIVA.
  • 00:14:20.100 --> 00:14:22.160
  • - GLORIA: I WAS ALREADY A
  • 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:23.050
  • DISCO DIVA.
  • 00:14:23.050 --> 00:14:23.190
  • - CLIFTON: AS I REMEMBER YOU
  • 00:14:23.190 --> 00:14:24.170
  • COMING BACKSTAGE ON MY FIRST
  • 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:28.000
  • TELEVISION SHOW, "THAT'S MY
  • 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.020
  • MAMA," AND YOU HAD JUST
  • 00:14:30.020 --> 00:14:32.140
  • RECORDED--
  • 00:14:32.140 --> 00:14:33.200
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:34.040 --> 00:14:37.040
  • SOME OF YOU MAY OR
  • 00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:38.010
  • MAY NOT KNOW THAT I WROTE
  • 00:14:38.010 --> 00:14:39.160
  • A SONG CALLED "NEVER CAN
  • 00:14:39.160 --> 00:14:41.020
  • SAY GOODBYE," AND PROBABLY--
  • 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.000
  • MICHAEL JACKSON DID A GREAT JOB,
  • 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:46.010
  • BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, GLORIA
  • 00:14:46.010 --> 00:14:48.000
  • GAYNOR WORE THAT SONG OUT AND
  • 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.180
  • SOLD A BUNCH OF 'EM, AND SHE
  • 00:14:50.210 --> 00:14:53.210
  • CAME BACKSTAGE, JUST AFTER SHE
  • 00:14:53.210 --> 00:14:56.100
  • RECORDED IT, ONTO THE SET AT
  • 00:14:56.150 --> 00:14:59.150
  • ABC TELEVISION, AND WE TOOK SOME
  • 00:14:59.150 --> 00:15:02.010
  • PHOTOS, AND IT WAS GREAT TO MEET
  • 00:15:02.010 --> 00:15:04.250
  • HER AT THAT TIME, AND THE
  • 00:15:04.250 --> 00:15:06.220
  • TRANSITION FOR HER FROM A NEWBIE
  • 00:15:08.050 --> 00:15:11.050
  • TO A STAR WAS LIKE "WHOOSH."
  • 00:15:11.130 --> 00:15:14.130
  • SUDDENLY IT WAS JUST ALL THERE
  • 00:15:14.130 --> 00:15:15.280
  • FOR YOU.
  • 00:15:15.280 --> 00:15:17.130
  • SO DID BECOMING A CHRISTIAN IN
  • 00:15:18.190 --> 00:15:21.190
  • 1982 HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THAT
  • 00:15:21.190 --> 00:15:22.210
  • JOURNEY?
  • 00:15:22.210 --> 00:15:24.170
  • - GLORIA: YES, IT DID,
  • 00:15:24.170 --> 00:15:26.060
  • ESPECIALLY SINCE MY HUSBAND WAS
  • 00:15:26.060 --> 00:15:28.050
  • A NOMINAL CATHOLIC AND WASN'T
  • 00:15:28.050 --> 00:15:30.130
  • PRACTICING CATHOLICISM, WASN'T
  • 00:15:33.160 --> 00:15:36.160
  • PRACTICING HIS RELIGION AT ALL
  • 00:15:36.160 --> 00:15:37.250
  • AND WAS LIVING A TOTALLY SECULAR
  • 00:15:38.040 --> 00:15:41.040
  • LIFE AND LOVED IT, WANTED IT
  • 00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:42.190
  • THAT WAY, AND WHEN I CAME TO HIM
  • 00:15:42.190 --> 00:15:45.080
  • AND TOLD HIM THAT I DIDN'T WANNA
  • 00:15:45.160 --> 00:15:48.160
  • RECORD DISCO MUSIC ANYMORE, HE
  • 00:15:48.160 --> 00:15:49.230
  • WAS LIKE, "UH, REALLY?"
  • 00:15:49.230 --> 00:15:52.030
  • "NO, THAT' AIN'T GONNA WORK."
  • 00:15:52.030 --> 00:15:53.110
  • AND SO WE WENT THROUGH SOME
  • 00:15:53.110 --> 00:15:54.220
  • CHANGES, AND SO IT WAS REALLY,
  • 00:15:54.230 --> 00:15:57.230
  • REALLY DIFFICULT.
  • 00:15:57.230 --> 00:15:59.190
  • IT WAS A REAL TUG-OF-WAR BETWEEN
  • 00:15:59.230 --> 00:16:02.250
  • HIM AND ME, WHAT I WAS GOING TO
  • 00:16:02.250 --> 00:16:04.040
  • DO.
  • 00:16:04.040 --> 00:16:05.280
  • - CLIFTON: WAS HE INVOLVED IN
  • 00:16:05.280 --> 00:16:06.200
  • YOUR CAREER?
  • 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:07.260
  • - GLORIA: HE WAS MY MANAGER.
  • 00:16:07.260 --> 00:16:08.260
  • - CLIFTON: OH, HE WAS YOUR
  • 00:16:08.260 --> 00:16:09.160
  • MANAGER.
  • 00:16:09.160 --> 00:16:10.000
  • - GLORIA: HE WAS MY MANAGER,
  • 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:10.210
  • YES.
  • 00:16:10.210 --> 00:16:11.040
  • - CLIFTON: OKAY.
  • 00:16:11.040 --> 00:16:11.220
  • - GLORIA: YES, HE WAS MY
  • 00:16:11.220 --> 00:16:12.110
  • MANAGER SO--
  • 00:16:12.110 --> 00:16:13.040
  • - CLIFTON: AND YOUR HUSBAND.
  • 00:16:13.040 --> 00:16:13.290
  • - GLORIA: AND MY HUSBAND, SO HE
  • 00:16:13.290 --> 00:16:16.040
  • HAD A LOT OF SAY-SO IN WHATEVER
  • 00:16:16.040 --> 00:16:18.000
  • I DID, OF COURSE, AND SO THAT
  • 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:20.010
  • WAS A REAL TUG-OF-WAR BETWEEN
  • 00:16:20.010 --> 00:16:20.270
  • THE TWO OF US.
  • 00:16:20.270 --> 00:16:22.280
  • - CLIFTON: HOW LONG DID YOU
  • 00:16:22.280 --> 00:16:25.200
  • HAVE TO FIGHT THAT BATTLE BEFORE
  • 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.150
  • YOU WERE ABLE TO BREAK OUT?
  • 00:16:27.190 --> 00:16:30.190
  • - GLORIA: WELL, WHAT HAPPENED
  • 00:16:30.190 --> 00:16:33.110
  • WAS I FOUGHT THE BATTLE FOR--
  • 00:16:33.110 --> 00:16:34.090
  • LET ME SEE.
  • 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.120
  • IT WAS IN 1982 THAT I GOT SAVED.
  • 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:38.200
  • IT WAS 1989 THAT MY HUSBAND AND
  • 00:16:38.220 --> 00:16:41.220
  • I FIRST SEPARATED, AND I SPENT A
  • 00:16:42.230 --> 00:16:45.230
  • LITTLE OVER A YEAR, ABOUT A YEAR
  • 00:16:45.230 --> 00:16:47.130
  • AND 2 MONTHS WITH VIRTUALLY
  • 00:16:47.130 --> 00:16:49.100
  • NOTHING.
  • 00:16:50.020 --> 00:16:53.020
  • BECAUSE HE WAS MY MANAGER, I HAD
  • 00:16:53.020 --> 00:16:54.010
  • NO WORK.
  • 00:16:54.010 --> 00:16:55.040
  • I DID NOT KNOW HOW TO FIND-- TO
  • 00:16:55.040 --> 00:16:56.210
  • GET WORK.
  • 00:16:56.210 --> 00:16:57.260
  • I WENT TO DIFFERENT MANAGERS,
  • 00:16:57.260 --> 00:17:00.250
  • AND THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED.
  • 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:04.000
  • THE RECORD COMPANY WAS DOING
  • 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:05.070
  • ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH ME OR
  • 00:17:05.070 --> 00:17:06.210
  • FOR ME, AND IT WAS REALLY,
  • 00:17:06.210 --> 00:17:08.180
  • REALLY HARD, BUT WITH NO WORK,
  • 00:17:08.180 --> 00:17:11.120
  • NO INCOME, LITERALLY DID NOT
  • 00:17:11.260 --> 00:17:14.260
  • KNOW WHERE MY NEXT MEAL WAS
  • 00:17:14.260 --> 00:17:16.100
  • COMING FROM, BUT "FROM THE
  • 00:17:16.100 --> 00:17:19.090
  • HILLS, WHENCE COMETH MY HELP."
  • 00:17:20.090 --> 00:17:23.090
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:23.090 --> 00:17:25.000
  • THAT WAS THE WORST AND
  • 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:26.260
  • THE BEST YEAR OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:17:27.030 --> 00:17:30.030
  • THE WORST AND THE BEST YEAR OF
  • 00:17:30.030 --> 00:17:31.070
  • MY LIFE.
  • 00:17:31.070 --> 00:17:32.100
  • - CLIFTON: AND WHY THE BEST?
  • 00:17:32.100 --> 00:17:34.020
  • 'CAUSE WE COULD HEAR HOW IT WAS
  • 00:17:34.020 --> 00:17:34.240
  • THE WORST.
  • 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:35.180
  • - GLORIA: RIGHT, THE BEST
  • 00:17:35.180 --> 00:17:38.140
  • BECAUSE THE LORD WAS THERE EVERY
  • 00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:39.060
  • STEP OF THE WAY.
  • 00:17:39.060 --> 00:17:40.210
  • EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, HE WAS
  • 00:17:40.210 --> 00:17:41.170
  • WITH ME.
  • 00:17:41.170 --> 00:17:43.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.000
  • I'LL NEVER FORGET I WENT
  • 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.020
  • TO SCRAPE SOME MONEY TOGETHER
  • 00:17:49.020 --> 00:17:50.060
  • TO GO AND VISIT A FRIEND
  • 00:17:50.060 --> 00:17:51.150
  • WHO WAS VISITING FROM ENGLAND,
  • 00:17:51.150 --> 00:17:52.060
  • COME TO NEW YORK FROM ENGLAND,
  • 00:17:52.060 --> 00:17:53.100
  • AND I WENT OVER TO SEE HIM.
  • 00:17:53.100 --> 00:17:54.090
  • I JUST HAD BUS FARE THERE AND
  • 00:17:54.090 --> 00:17:55.000
  • BUS FARE BACK, AND ON THE WAY
  • 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:57.060
  • BACK, I ASKED HIM, I SAID,
  • 00:17:57.060 --> 00:17:59.060
  • "MALCOLM, I HATE TO ASK YOU
  • 00:17:59.060 --> 00:18:02.020
  • THIS, BUT CAN YOU LOAN ME, YOU
  • 00:18:02.020 --> 00:18:03.190
  • KNOW, A FEW DOLLARS?"
  • 00:18:03.190 --> 00:18:05.180
  • AND HE PEELED $300 OFF A ROLL HE
  • 00:18:05.180 --> 00:18:06.290
  • HAD AND GAVE IT TO ME, AND I
  • 00:18:06.290 --> 00:18:08.020
  • SAID, "THANK YOU.
  • 00:18:08.020 --> 00:18:10.040
  • I DON'T KNOW WHEN I'LL BE ABLE
  • 00:18:10.040 --> 00:18:10.260
  • TO PAY YOU BACK."
  • 00:18:10.260 --> 00:18:11.220
  • HE SAID, "PAY ME BACK WHEN
  • 00:18:11.220 --> 00:18:12.110
  • YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN."
  • 00:18:12.110 --> 00:18:13.120
  • I WENT HOME AND WAS
  • 00:18:13.120 --> 00:18:15.130
  • SITTING DOWN.
  • 00:18:15.130 --> 00:18:16.170
  • I HAD MADE DINNER FOR-- I WAS
  • 00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:17.160
  • STAYING WITH MY NIECE, AND I HAD
  • 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.170
  • AND SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA GO
  • 00:18:21.260 --> 00:18:22.270
  • DOWN AND PAY THE RENT.
  • 00:18:22.270 --> 00:18:23.170
  • THE RENT WAS $300.
  • 00:18:23.170 --> 00:18:25.120
  • SHE WENT DOWN, AND SHE PAID THE
  • 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:26.040
  • RENT.
  • 00:18:26.040 --> 00:18:26.290
  • SHE CAME BACK CRYING BECAUSE,
  • 00:18:26.290 --> 00:18:28.210
  • LONG STORY SHORT, HER
  • 00:18:28.210 --> 00:18:30.020
  • SUPERINTENDENT HAD TAKEN THE
  • 00:18:30.020 --> 00:18:32.040
  • MONEY FROM HER IN LIEU OF A DEBT
  • 00:18:32.040 --> 00:18:34.200
  • AND SO THE RENT WASN'T PAID.
  • 00:18:37.100 --> 00:18:38.120
  • SO I SAID, "NO, DON'T WORRY
  • 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:39.170
  • ABOUT IT."
  • 00:18:42.100 --> 00:18:45.100
  • I GAVE HER THE $300 THAT I HAD.
  • 00:18:45.100 --> 00:18:46.020
  • SHE SAID, "WELL, WHAT ARE YOU
  • 00:18:46.020 --> 00:18:46.230
  • GONNA DO?
  • 00:18:46.230 --> 00:18:47.220
  • THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE."
  • 00:18:47.220 --> 00:18:48.090
  • I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:18:48.090 --> 00:18:48.280
  • THE LORD PROVIDED THAT.
  • 00:18:48.280 --> 00:18:49.210
  • HE'LL PROVIDE MORE."
  • 00:18:49.210 --> 00:18:50.130
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:18:50.130 --> 00:18:51.140
  • SO WE FINISHED OUR DINNER, AND
  • 00:18:51.140 --> 00:18:52.280
  • SHE SAID, "OH, AUNT GLO, I
  • 00:18:52.280 --> 00:18:54.260
  • FORGOT TO GIVE YOU YOUR MAIL."
  • 00:18:54.260 --> 00:18:56.010
  • SHE GIVES ME MY MAIL.
  • 00:18:56.010 --> 00:18:56.190
  • THERE'S A CHECK FOR $300.
  • 00:18:56.190 --> 00:18:58.160
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.080
  • TO THIS DAY, I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:18:59.210 --> 00:19:02.230
  • WHERE THAT CHECK CAME FROM.
  • 00:19:02.230 --> 00:19:05.000
  • I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM
  • 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:05.220
  • EXCEPT GOD.
  • 00:19:05.220 --> 00:19:07.060
  • - CLIFTON: I GOTTA TELL OUR
  • 00:19:07.060 --> 00:19:08.030
  • VIEWING AUDIENCE, THIS ISN'T
  • 00:19:08.030 --> 00:19:09.090
  • PLANNED.
  • 00:19:09.110 --> 00:19:12.110
  • WE DIDN'T PLAN TO TELL YOU THAT
  • 00:19:12.110 --> 00:19:13.250
  • STORY.
  • 00:19:13.250 --> 00:19:15.200
  • THIS IS HOW GOD WORKS FROM TIME
  • 00:19:15.270 --> 00:19:18.270
  • TO TIME, OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
  • 00:19:18.270 --> 00:19:20.270
  • IT'S HAPPENED TO ME MORE TIMES
  • 00:19:20.270 --> 00:19:23.070
  • THAN I CAN REMEMBER, BUT HOW
  • 00:19:23.070 --> 00:19:25.170
  • WONDERFUL TO HEAR THE STORY OF
  • 00:19:25.170 --> 00:19:28.000
  • HOW HE DELIVERED YOU IN THAT
  • 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.050
  • MOMENT.
  • 00:19:30.050 --> 00:19:31.220
  • - GLORIA: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:19:31.220 --> 00:19:32.100
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT A GREAT
  • 00:19:32.100 --> 00:19:32.280
  • EXPERIENCE, AND THAT'S NO WONDER
  • 00:19:32.280 --> 00:19:33.210
  • IF WAS A GREAT YEAR, AND IT
  • 00:19:33.210 --> 00:19:34.270
  • SEEMS AS THOUGH WE HAVE TO GO
  • 00:19:35.150 --> 00:19:38.150
  • THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT STUFF IN
  • 00:19:38.150 --> 00:19:40.190
  • ORDER TO FIND OUT HOW GREAT OUR
  • 00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:42.220
  • GOD IS.
  • 00:19:42.220 --> 00:19:43.190
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:43.190 --> 00:19:45.050
  • - GLORIA: OH, YES, OH, YES.
  • 00:19:48.280 --> 00:19:51.280
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT ARE THE
  • 00:19:52.060 --> 00:19:55.060
  • CHALLENGES YOU FIND IN TRYING TO
  • 00:19:55.060 --> 00:19:55.280
  • WALK WITH THE LORD AND STILL
  • 00:19:55.280 --> 00:19:56.280
  • MAINTAIN WHAT IS YOUR HISTORY,
  • 00:19:56.280 --> 00:19:59.020
  • YOUR CAREER, YOUR LEGACY IN
  • 00:19:59.020 --> 00:20:00.190
  • MUSIC?
  • 00:20:00.190 --> 00:20:03.000
  • - GLORIA: WELL, YOU GET PULLED.
  • 00:20:04.250 --> 00:20:07.250
  • YOU KNOW, YOU GET PULLED.
  • 00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:11.080
  • THERE IS A PULL ON YOU TO DRESS
  • 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:14.160
  • A CERTAIN WAY, TO LIVE A CERTAIN
  • 00:20:15.280 --> 00:20:18.280
  • WAY, TO DRINK, TO SMOKE, TO, YOU
  • 00:20:18.280 --> 00:20:19.280
  • KNOW, EVEN DO DRUGS.
  • 00:20:19.290 --> 00:20:22.290
  • I'VE HAD PEOPLE BRING ME DRUGS.
  • 00:20:25.060 --> 00:20:28.060
  • I'M LIKE, "UH, NO.
  • 00:20:28.060 --> 00:20:29.090
  • THAT'S NOT MY THING."
  • 00:20:29.090 --> 00:20:31.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:20:32.170 --> 00:20:35.170
  • BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS
  • 00:20:35.170 --> 00:20:36.090
  • BUSINESS HAS COME TO BE ABOUT,
  • 00:20:37.090 --> 00:20:40.090
  • IT SEEMS.
  • 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.240
  • WE KNOW, AS CHRISTIANS, IF YOU
  • 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:47.080
  • READ AND YOU STUDY THE WORD, YOU
  • 00:20:47.080 --> 00:20:48.130
  • COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT MUSIC
  • 00:20:49.010 --> 00:20:52.010
  • WAS THE ENEMY'S--
  • 00:20:52.010 --> 00:20:52.280
  • THAT WAS HIS THING.
  • 00:20:52.280 --> 00:20:54.040
  • THAT'S A GIFT, AND GOD'S GIFTS
  • 00:20:54.040 --> 00:20:54.250
  • ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE.
  • 00:20:54.250 --> 00:20:56.100
  • SO HE STILL WANTS TO BE IN
  • 00:20:56.100 --> 00:20:58.250
  • CONTROL OF THAT BUSINESS, SO HE
  • 00:20:59.050 --> 00:21:02.070
  • WANTS TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE
  • 00:21:02.070 --> 00:21:03.280
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT
  • 00:21:03.280 --> 00:21:05.010
  • BUSINESS, AND HE WILL SEND YOU
  • 00:21:05.010 --> 00:21:06.130
  • ALL KINDS OF TEMPTATIONS, AND
  • 00:21:06.130 --> 00:21:08.150
  • SOMETIMES HE A LITTLE BIT STUPID
  • 00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:12.260
  • 'CAUSE HE DON'T REALIZE THAT'S
  • 00:21:12.260 --> 00:21:13.240
  • NOT TEMPTATION FOR ME ANYMORE.
  • 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:14.270
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE THE LORD.
  • 00:21:14.270 --> 00:21:16.170
  • - GLORIA: OH, HE WILL STILL
  • 00:21:16.170 --> 00:21:18.040
  • SEND THOSE THINGS, SO AT THIS
  • 00:21:18.040 --> 00:21:19.160
  • POINT IN MY LIFE, IT'S JUST A
  • 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:21.170
  • NUISANCE.
  • 00:21:21.170 --> 00:21:24.060
  • YEAH, IT'S KIND OF A NUISANCE.
  • 00:21:24.060 --> 00:21:25.250
  • - CLIFTON: SO THE CONFLICT THAT
  • 00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:27.180
  • YOU FEEL FROM TIME TO TIME IS
  • 00:21:27.180 --> 00:21:30.060
  • NOT THE SAME ONE THAT SO MANY
  • 00:21:30.060 --> 00:21:32.150
  • OTHER ARTISTS HAVE BECAUSE
  • 00:21:32.150 --> 00:21:35.130
  • YOU'RE NOT TEMPTED IN THE WAY
  • 00:21:35.130 --> 00:21:36.040
  • THEY ARE.
  • 00:21:36.040 --> 00:21:36.170
  • - GLORIA: NO.
  • 00:21:36.170 --> 00:21:37.260
  • - CLIFTON: BUT THE CONFLICT IS
  • 00:21:37.260 --> 00:21:38.280
  • HAVING TO DO WHAT PERHAPS WHAT
  • 00:21:38.280 --> 00:21:40.240
  • YOU WOULD RATHER NOT DO, IN
  • 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.270
  • TERMS OF RECALLING THE SONGS,
  • 00:21:42.270 --> 00:21:44.120
  • AND THEN BRINGING YOUR NEW
  • 00:21:44.120 --> 00:21:46.100
  • MATERIAL INTO BEING?
  • 00:21:46.130 --> 00:21:49.130
  • - GLORIA: YES, BUT YOU KNOW
  • 00:21:49.130 --> 00:21:50.070
  • WHAT?
  • 00:21:50.070 --> 00:21:51.060
  • DURING THAT YEAR, I SPENT SO
  • 00:21:51.280 --> 00:21:54.280
  • MUCH TIME WITH THE LORD, AND
  • 00:21:54.280 --> 00:21:56.020
  • WHEN I WANTED TO DO-- I TRIED TO
  • 00:21:57.040 --> 00:22:00.060
  • BARGAIN WITH HIM.
  • 00:22:00.060 --> 00:22:01.080
  • YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, SO,
  • 00:22:01.080 --> 00:22:02.110
  • LORD, SO I THINK THAT YOU DIDN'T
  • 00:22:02.110 --> 00:22:03.190
  • WANT ME TO DO ANYTHING.
  • 00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:06.010
  • YOU WANT ME TO SPEND THIS TIME
  • 00:22:06.010 --> 00:22:07.150
  • WITH YOU, AND I'M SPENDING THIS
  • 00:22:07.150 --> 00:22:08.180
  • TIME WITH YOU, SO WHEN I GO
  • 00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:10.250
  • BACK, I'M GONNA DO A GOSPEL SONG
  • 00:22:13.210 --> 00:22:16.210
  • ON EVERY ONE OF MY ALBUMS," AND
  • 00:22:16.210 --> 00:22:18.060
  • HE SAID, "NO."
  • 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:21.160
  • I SAID, "OKAY,
  • 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:24.010
  • I'LL DO TWO."
  • 00:22:24.010 --> 00:22:25.120
  • HE SAID, "NO."
  • 00:22:25.120 --> 00:22:27.170
  • I SAID, "OKAY,
  • 00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:29.180
  • I'LL DO HALF GOSPEL AND HALF--"
  • 00:22:29.180 --> 00:22:31.120
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT RECORD COMPANY
  • 00:22:31.120 --> 00:22:33.110
  • I THOUGHT WAS GONNA LET ME
  • 00:22:33.110 --> 00:22:34.090
  • DO THAT, BUT I FIGURED,
  • 00:22:34.090 --> 00:22:37.000
  • YOU KNOW, HE'S IN CONTROL.
  • 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.210
  • MAYBE HE'LL MAKE 'EM LET ME.
  • 00:22:38.210 --> 00:22:40.210
  • AND HE'S LIKE,
  • 00:22:40.210 --> 00:22:41.120
  • I WAS LIKE, "OH, WOW, SO YOU
  • 00:22:45.020 --> 00:22:47.080
  • WANT ME TO-- OKAY.
  • 00:22:47.080 --> 00:22:49.000
  • I'LL DO ALL GOSPEL.
  • 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.200
  • I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A FIGHT
  • 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:53.100
  • WITH MY HUSBAND/MANAGER, BUT IF
  • 00:22:53.100 --> 00:22:55.230
  • YOU WANT ME TO DO ALL GOSPEL
  • 00:22:55.230 --> 00:22:56.250
  • MUSIC, THAT'S WHAT I--" AND HE
  • 00:22:56.250 --> 00:22:58.020
  • AND NOW I'M REALLY PUZZLED.
  • 00:23:02.060 --> 00:23:03.280
  • - CLIFTON: YES.
  • 00:23:03.280 --> 00:23:05.090
  • - GLORIA: HE SAID, "MY WORD IS
  • 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:09.160
  • ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES OF LIFE.
  • 00:23:09.210 --> 00:23:12.210
  • WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES YOU THINK
  • 00:23:12.210 --> 00:23:13.230
  • I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO SING
  • 00:23:13.230 --> 00:23:14.240
  • ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES OF LIFE
  • 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:16.090
  • FROM MY POINT OF VIEW?"
  • 00:23:17.010 --> 00:23:20.010
  • HE SAID, "I WANT YOU TO TAKE
  • 00:23:20.010 --> 00:23:21.110
  • WHATEVER YOU SING, I WANT IT TO
  • 00:23:21.110 --> 00:23:24.110
  • BE IN KEEPING WITH MY WILL, MY
  • 00:23:24.110 --> 00:23:26.140
  • WORD, AND MY WAYS, AND I WANT
  • 00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:28.230
  • YOU TO TAKE IT RIGHT BACK TO
  • 00:23:28.230 --> 00:23:29.250
  • THOSE PEOPLE YOU'VE BEEN SINGIN'
  • 00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:30.190
  • TO ALL ALONG."
  • 00:23:30.190 --> 00:23:31.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:23:33.020 --> 00:23:36.020
  • SO THAT'S WHAT I DO.
  • 00:23:36.020 --> 00:23:37.150
  • I, IN EVERY ONE OF MY SHOWS, I
  • 00:23:37.150 --> 00:23:39.070
  • DO A FEW CHRISTIAN SONGS, BUT I
  • 00:23:39.070 --> 00:23:42.030
  • SING THE SONGS THAT I'VE BEEN
  • 00:23:42.030 --> 00:23:44.050
  • SINGING.
  • 00:23:44.050 --> 00:23:44.290
  • I SING "NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE."
  • 00:23:44.290 --> 00:23:45.280
  • I SING "I WILL SURVIVE."
  • 00:23:45.280 --> 00:23:46.290
  • I SING "I AM WHAT I AM,"
  • 00:23:46.290 --> 00:23:48.200
  • AND I CHANGE SOME OF THE
  • 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:50.290
  • LYRICS TO BE IN KEEPING
  • 00:23:50.290 --> 00:23:51.180
  • WITH HIS WILL, HIS WORD,
  • 00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:53.010
  • AND HIS WAYS.
  • 00:23:53.010 --> 00:23:54.020
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:23:54.020 --> 00:23:55.200
  • - CLIFTON: HALLELUJAH!
  • 00:23:56.290 --> 00:23:59.290
  • HOW ABOUT THAT?
  • 00:23:59.290 --> 00:24:02.050
  • I FOUND THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE AS
  • 00:24:02.050 --> 00:24:03.090
  • WELL.
  • 00:24:03.090 --> 00:24:04.140
  • I HAD TO COME INTO THE
  • 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:06.260
  • RESOLUTION TO RESOLVE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:24:06.260 --> 00:24:08.160
  • HAVING WRITTEN SECULAR MUSIC FOR
  • 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.000
  • MOTOWN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND
  • 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.010
  • WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD DO IT AT
  • 00:24:13.010 --> 00:24:14.240
  • ALL, AND, OF COURSE, GOD SAID,
  • 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:16.010
  • "I WROTE THAT WITH YOU, HUH?
  • 00:24:16.010 --> 00:24:17.120
  • WHO YOU THINK GAVE YOU THAT
  • 00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:18.070
  • SONG?"
  • 00:24:19.220 --> 00:24:22.220
  • I SAID, "OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:24:22.220 --> 00:24:23.140
  • YOU DID IT, LORD."
  • 00:24:23.140 --> 00:24:25.080
  • AND SO, I HONOR HIM WITH
  • 00:24:25.080 --> 00:24:26.150
  • MY GIFTS.
  • 00:24:26.150 --> 00:24:27.260
  • YOU KNOW, LIKE "THE LITTLE
  • 00:24:27.260 --> 00:24:29.240
  • DRUMMER BOY" IN THE CHRISTMAS
  • 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:30.160
  • SONG, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.160
  • "SO I HONOR YOU WITH MY DRUM."
  • 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:35.200
  • - GLORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:36.240
  • - CLIFTON: SO BRING YOUR DRUM
  • 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.150
  • AND HONOR THE LORD.
  • 00:24:37.150 --> 00:24:38.080
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:24:38.080 --> 00:24:39.150
  • WHAT'S BEEN YOUR GREATEST
  • 00:24:39.150 --> 00:24:40.240
  • CHALLENGE SINCE BECOMING A
  • 00:24:40.270 --> 00:24:43.270
  • CHRISTIAN?
  • 00:24:43.270 --> 00:24:45.090
  • - GLORIA: WHAT'S BEEN MY
  • 00:24:45.090 --> 00:24:47.090
  • GREATEST CHALLENGE?
  • 00:24:47.090 --> 00:24:48.220
  • IT'S NOT PREACHING.
  • 00:24:48.220 --> 00:24:50.120
  • LEARNING TO SHARE, TO SHARE MY
  • 00:24:50.130 --> 00:24:53.130
  • FAITH, AND SO I'M A VERY
  • 00:24:53.130 --> 00:24:56.050
  • ANALYTICAL AND VERY PRACTICAL
  • 00:24:56.050 --> 00:24:58.160
  • PERSON, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, AND SO
  • 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.150
  • I DECIDED THAT WHAT I HAD TO DO,
  • 00:25:01.060 --> 00:25:04.060
  • I RECOGNIZE.
  • 00:25:04.060 --> 00:25:05.180
  • WE CAN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE THAT.
  • 00:25:05.180 --> 00:25:07.160
  • WHAT I HAD TO DO WAS SHARE MY
  • 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:08.150
  • FAITH LIKE I WOULD SHARE A
  • 00:25:08.150 --> 00:25:10.180
  • WONDERFUL, DELICIOUS PIECE OF
  • 00:25:10.180 --> 00:25:11.230
  • CHOCOLATE CAKE, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:25:11.230 --> 00:25:12.290
  • "THIS IS WONDERFUL.
  • 00:25:12.290 --> 00:25:15.090
  • THIS IS GREAT.
  • 00:25:15.090 --> 00:25:16.030
  • THIS IS AWESOME.
  • 00:25:16.030 --> 00:25:16.280
  • I LOVE IT.
  • 00:25:16.280 --> 00:25:18.090
  • DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:25:18.090 --> 00:25:19.170
  • LIKE IT OR NOT, BUT I LOVE IT.
  • 00:25:19.170 --> 00:25:20.200
  • TRY, TRY THIS.
  • 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:23.050
  • TASTE THIS, TRY."
  • 00:25:23.050 --> 00:25:24.150
  • AND THIS IS WHAT I DO,
  • 00:25:24.150 --> 00:25:25.140
  • AND I JUST KIND OF MINISTER TO
  • 00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:28.070
  • THEM, WHEREVER THEY ARE, ABOUT
  • 00:25:28.070 --> 00:25:30.040
  • WHATEVER THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
  • 00:25:30.040 --> 00:25:32.020
  • I WILL PRAY FOR PEOPLE IN A
  • 00:25:32.020 --> 00:25:33.210
  • HEARTBEAT AND JUST SHARE, JUST
  • 00:25:33.250 --> 00:25:36.250
  • REALLY JUST SHARE, NOT TO SHOVE
  • 00:25:36.250 --> 00:25:39.120
  • ANYTHING DOWN ANYBODY'S THROAT,
  • 00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:40.260
  • BUT JUST SHARE, AND ONE OF THE
  • 00:25:42.050 --> 00:25:45.050
  • THINGS I DO IN SHARING IS JUST
  • 00:25:45.050 --> 00:25:46.060
  • EXPLAIN TO THEM AND SHOW THEM,
  • 00:25:46.060 --> 00:25:47.080
  • TELL THEM WHAT GOD DID FOR ME.
  • 00:25:47.080 --> 00:25:48.130
  • I CAME UP, AS I SAID, IN A
  • 00:25:48.190 --> 00:25:51.190
  • ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT WITH SIX
  • 00:25:51.190 --> 00:25:54.000
  • SIBLINGS, YEAH.
  • 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:55.050
  • AND WHEN MY MOTHER PASSED AWAY
  • 00:25:55.050 --> 00:25:58.020
  • AND WE HAD TO MOVE, I ASKED GOD
  • 00:25:58.020 --> 00:26:00.180
  • FOR A HOUSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:03.010
  • HOLES IN THE WALLS, OKAY?
  • 00:26:03.010 --> 00:26:04.280
  • I NOW LIVE IN A 5.500-SQUARE
  • 00:26:06.100 --> 00:26:09.100
  • FOOT HOME.
  • 00:26:09.100 --> 00:26:10.260
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE THE LORD.
  • 00:26:10.260 --> 00:26:12.130
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:26:12.130 --> 00:26:14.090
  • - GLORIA: I TELL MY
  • 00:26:14.090 --> 00:26:14.290
  • FRIENDS, "I ASKED HIM FOR AN
  • 00:26:14.290 --> 00:26:17.110
  • APARTMENT THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:26:17.110 --> 00:26:18.020
  • HOLES IN THE WALLS.
  • 00:26:18.020 --> 00:26:18.270
  • HE'S AN OVERACHIEVER."
  • 00:26:18.270 --> 00:26:21.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:21.090 --> 00:26:23.080
  • - CLIFTON: GOD HAS A WAY OF
  • 00:26:23.080 --> 00:26:23.280
  • DOING THAT, DOESN'T HE?
  • 00:26:23.280 --> 00:26:24.220
  • UH-HUH, NOW THE ONLY HOLES IN
  • 00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:26.220
  • YOUR WALLS ARE FOR DOORS.
  • 00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:28.200
  • - GLORIA: YES, EXACTLY.
  • 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:30.160
  • AND WINDOWS, YEAH.
  • 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.110
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, ARE MOST OF
  • 00:26:33.110 --> 00:26:34.040
  • YOUR FRIENDS CHRISTIANS?
  • 00:26:34.040 --> 00:26:34.250
  • - GLORIA: NO, THEY'RE NOT.
  • 00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:35.150
  • NO, THEY'RE NOT.
  • 00:26:35.150 --> 00:26:36.110
  • - CLIFTON: SEEMS INTERESTING.
  • 00:26:36.110 --> 00:26:37.160
  • - GLORIA: 'CAUSE I GOTTA
  • 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:38.250
  • MINISTER TO SOMEBODY.
  • 00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:39.130
  • - CLIFTON: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:26:39.130 --> 00:26:40.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:41.190
  • - GLORIA: BUT, I MEAN, MY
  • 00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:44.170
  • FRIENDS COME OUT OF MY WORK,
  • 00:26:44.170 --> 00:26:46.130
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO MANY
  • 00:26:46.130 --> 00:26:48.280
  • DIFFERENT AREAS.
  • 00:26:48.280 --> 00:26:51.110
  • THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT
  • 00:26:51.110 --> 00:26:52.260
  • BUSINESSES INTERTWINE WITH THE
  • 00:26:52.260 --> 00:26:55.000
  • MUSIC BUSINESS THAT I HAVE
  • 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.200
  • FRIENDS FROM JUST ABOUT EVERY
  • 00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:58.170
  • WALK OF LIFE, AND THEY KNOW WHO
  • 00:26:58.170 --> 00:26:59.090
  • I AM.
  • 00:26:59.090 --> 00:27:01.160
  • THEY KNOW THAT I'M A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.180
  • TO THE BONE, AND IT'S FUNNY.
  • 00:27:04.140 --> 00:27:07.140
  • THEY COME TO YOU FOR PRAYER--
  • 00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:09.120
  • - CLIFTON: ISN'T THAT
  • 00:27:09.120 --> 00:27:10.030
  • SOMETHING?
  • 00:27:10.030 --> 00:27:10.230
  • - GLORIA: -- WHEN THEY HAVE A
  • 00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:12.030
  • PROBLEM, SOMETHIN' ISN'T GOING
  • 00:27:12.030 --> 00:27:13.260
  • RIGHT FOR THEM, SO I MINISTER TO
  • 00:27:13.260 --> 00:27:14.180
  • THEM WITH MY LIFE, AND WHEN I
  • 00:27:14.180 --> 00:27:17.010
  • CAN, I MINISTER TO THEM IN SONG,
  • 00:27:17.010 --> 00:27:19.140
  • AND I MINISTER TO THEM FROM THE
  • 00:27:19.140 --> 00:27:22.080
  • WORD WHENEVER IT'S NOT GOING TO
  • 00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:25.150
  • BE INTRUSIVE, AND WHENEVER IT'S
  • 00:27:25.150 --> 00:27:27.080
  • NOT GOING TO BE OPPRESSIVE.
  • 00:27:27.080 --> 00:27:29.150
  • - CLIFTON: I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:27:29.150 --> 00:27:30.110
  • MINISTER TO US IN SONG AGAIN.
  • 00:27:30.110 --> 00:27:32.180
  • - GLORIA: OKAY.
  • 00:27:32.180 --> 00:27:33.140
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:27:33.140 --> 00:27:34.150
  • - CLIFTON: AND WITH YOUR
  • 00:27:34.150 --> 00:27:37.130
  • PERMISSION, I'LL GET OUT OF THE
  • 00:27:37.130 --> 00:27:38.190
  • WAY WHILE GLORIA GAYNOR
  • 00:27:38.190 --> 00:27:41.000
  • SINGS "DAY ONE."
  • 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.220
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:27:47.180 --> 00:27:50.180
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:27:50.180 --> 00:27:52.000
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.010
  • I'VE GOT SO MANY BURDENS ON
  • 00:28:20.100 --> 00:28:21.090
  • MY HEART,
  • 00:28:21.090 --> 00:28:23.260
  • QUESTIONS WEIGHIN' ON MY MIND
  • 00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:27.150
  • I'VE GROWN SO TIRED OF ALL
  • 00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:28.120
  • THIS MADNESS,
  • 00:28:28.120 --> 00:28:30.140
  • WISHIN' I COULD LEAVE
  • 00:28:30.140 --> 00:28:31.090
  • AND EVEN NOW, FEAR AND DOUBT
  • 00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:36.120
  • KEEP TRYIN' TO DRAG ME DOWN,
  • 00:28:36.120 --> 00:28:37.180
  • TAKE ME OUT
  • 00:28:38.010 --> 00:28:41.010
  • SO HARD TO HEAR YOUR VOICE IN
  • 00:28:42.040 --> 00:28:45.040
  • TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:28:49.100 --> 00:28:52.100
  • WHEN YOU DRENCHED MY
  • 00:28:52.100 --> 00:28:54.150
  • HEART IN THE WATER,
  • 00:28:54.150 --> 00:28:56.070
  • AND I FELT LOVE FOR THE FIRST
  • 00:28:56.070 --> 00:28:57.200
  • TIME
  • 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.200
  • BREATHE LIFE INTO THESE WEARY
  • 00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:04.170
  • LUNGS, AND TAKE ME BACK, OH,
  • 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.200
  • ALL MY HOPE SHOULD BE FOUND N
  • 00:29:31.010 --> 00:29:34.010
  • YOU,
  • 00:29:34.010 --> 00:29:34.270
  • NOT THE SOCIALS OR THE
  • 00:29:34.270 --> 00:29:35.170
  • DAILY NEWS
  • 00:29:35.170 --> 00:29:36.100
  • THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRUTH I
  • 00:29:36.100 --> 00:29:37.270
  • NEED
  • 00:29:37.270 --> 00:29:40.110
  • ONLY YOU CAN SET ME FREE
  • 00:29:40.110 --> 00:29:42.090
  • SO TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:29:45.190 --> 00:29:48.190
  • WHEN YOU DRENCHED MY HEART
  • 00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:51.030
  • IN THE WATER,
  • 00:29:51.030 --> 00:29:52.190
  • AND I FELT LOVE FOR THE
  • 00:29:52.190 --> 00:29:54.110
  • FIRST TIME
  • 00:29:54.110 --> 00:29:57.000
  • BREATHE LIFE INTO THESE WEARY
  • 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.170
  • LUNGS,
  • 00:30:00.270 --> 00:30:03.270
  • AND TAKE ME BACK, LORD,
  • 00:30:04.270 --> 00:30:07.270
  • TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:30:11.090 --> 00:30:14.090
  • BACK TO LOVE, JOY, PEACE, AND
  • 00:30:14.090 --> 00:30:16.290
  • HAPPINESS,
  • 00:30:17.260 --> 00:30:20.260
  • WHERE YOU GAVE THIS
  • 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:24.160
  • WAYWARD CHILD A SECOND CHANCE
  • 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.240
  • 'CAUSE WHERE MY SOUL FINDS
  • 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.130
  • COMFORT, I FIND REST,
  • 00:30:33.190 --> 00:30:36.190
  • OH, MM-MM, MM-MM-MM
  • 00:30:47.110 --> 00:30:50.110
  • TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:30:52.220 --> 00:30:55.220
  • WHERE YOU DRENCHED MY HEART N
  • 00:30:55.220 --> 00:30:57.080
  • THE WATER,
  • 00:30:57.080 --> 00:30:59.180
  • AND I FELT LOVE FOR THE
  • 00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:01.050
  • FIRST TIME
  • 00:31:01.050 --> 00:31:03.290
  • BREATHE LIFE INTO THESE WEARY
  • 00:31:05.080 --> 00:31:08.080
  • LUNGS,
  • 00:31:08.080 --> 00:31:10.040
  • AND TAKE ME BACK, LORD,
  • 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.200
  • TAKE ME BACK, TAKE ME BACK,
  • 00:31:17.140 --> 00:31:20.140
  • OH, TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:27.240
  • TO DAY ONE
  • 00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:40.180
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:31:41.010 --> 00:31:44.010
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
  • 00:31:44.010 --> 00:31:46.160
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:47.180
  • - CLIFTON: GLORIA GAYNOR.
  • 00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:48.150
  • GOOD LORD, WHAT A GIFTED WOMAN
  • 00:31:48.150 --> 00:31:49.250
  • YOU ARE.
  • 00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:52.130
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
  • 00:31:52.130 --> 00:31:54.080
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT A BLESSING TO
  • 00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:56.020
  • KNOW YOU AND TO-- YEAH!
  • 00:31:56.020 --> 00:31:58.090
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:31:58.090 --> 00:32:00.040
  • AND TO EXPERIENCE WHAT IS
  • 00:32:01.210 --> 00:32:04.210
  • NOW MINISTRY AS WELL.
  • 00:32:04.210 --> 00:32:05.210
  • DO YOU GO TO CHURCH REGULARLY?
  • 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:07.250
  • - GLORIA: REGULARLY, YES.
  • 00:32:07.250 --> 00:32:08.140
  • - CLIFTON: YOU KNOW, I GET
  • 00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:11.110
  • CHALLENGED SOMETIMES.
  • 00:32:11.110 --> 00:32:12.120
  • I HAVE TO FIND A CHURCH-- I
  • 00:32:12.120 --> 00:32:13.130
  • FOUND A CHURCH AT ST. LUKE
  • 00:32:13.130 --> 00:32:15.170
  • BAPTIST CHURCH--
  • 00:32:15.170 --> 00:32:16.250
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:18.040 --> 00:32:21.040
  • A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM THERE
  • 00:32:21.040 --> 00:32:23.130
  • ARE HERE TONIGHT, I THINK.
  • 00:32:23.210 --> 00:32:26.210
  • ANYWAY, I'M LICENSED THERE, AND
  • 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.240
  • IT'S A PLACE WHERE I CAN GO AND
  • 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:30.240
  • JUST WORSHIP.
  • 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.230
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:32.010 --> 00:32:35.010
  • SOMETIMES FAMOUS PEOPLE HAVE
  • 00:32:36.130 --> 00:32:39.130
  • A DIFFICULT TIME IN CHURCH
  • 00:32:39.130 --> 00:32:42.010
  • BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE
  • 00:32:42.010 --> 00:32:44.050
  • PARISHIONERS WILL SEE YOU
  • 00:32:44.050 --> 00:32:46.160
  • COME IN, AND THEY'LL RECOGNIZE
  • 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.020
  • YOU, AND THEN SUDDENLY THEY'RE
  • 00:32:48.020 --> 00:32:49.040
  • NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE
  • 00:32:49.040 --> 00:32:49.240
  • SERMON.
  • 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.140
  • THEY'RE TRYIN' TO GET YOUR
  • 00:32:51.140 --> 00:32:53.110
  • ATTENTION, AND THEY WANT-- YOU
  • 00:32:53.110 --> 00:32:54.150
  • KNOW, AND THEY'RE LOSING A
  • 00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:56.290
  • BLESSING, SO SOMETIMES IT FEELS
  • 00:32:56.290 --> 00:32:59.180
  • FUNNY TO JUST GO UNTIL YOU CAN
  • 00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:01.270
  • GO THERE AT LEAST ENOUGH TIMES
  • 00:33:01.270 --> 00:33:04.100
  • SO EVERYBODY GOES, "OH, THAT'S
  • 00:33:04.100 --> 00:33:06.090
  • JUST CLIF."
  • 00:33:06.090 --> 00:33:07.220
  • - GLORIA: RIGHT.
  • 00:33:07.220 --> 00:33:08.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:11.080
  • - CLIFTON: AND WE CAN ALL
  • 00:33:11.080 --> 00:33:12.180
  • HOLD HANDS AND WORSHIP
  • 00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:13.200
  • THE LORD, YOU KNOW, IN THE
  • 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:14.100
  • BEAUTY OF HOLINESS.
  • 00:33:14.100 --> 00:33:16.090
  • SO DO YOU FIND THAT TO BE A
  • 00:33:16.090 --> 00:33:18.180
  • CHALLENGE WHEN YOU GO TO CHURCH?
  • 00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:21.080
  • - GLORIA: NO, BECAUSE MY PASTOR
  • 00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:22.040
  • MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT JESUS
  • 00:33:22.040 --> 00:33:23.120
  • DOESN'T HAVE ANY COSTARS.
  • 00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:25.230
  • - CLIFTON: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:33:25.230 --> 00:33:26.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:26.100 --> 00:33:29.000
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.070
  • - GLORIA: NO, WE GET A LOT OF
  • 00:33:30.070 --> 00:33:30.290
  • CELEBRITIES AT OUR CHURCH, AND
  • 00:33:30.290 --> 00:33:33.040
  • NOBODY MAKES A FUSS OVER
  • 00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:33.280
  • ANYBODY.
  • 00:33:33.280 --> 00:33:36.100
  • YEAH, WE GET DENZEL WASHINGTON,
  • 00:33:36.100 --> 00:33:38.000
  • WE GET BEBE WINANS, WE GET
  • 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.070
  • ANGELA BASSETT AND-- YEAH.
  • 00:33:39.070 --> 00:33:40.180
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE THE LORD.
  • 00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:42.120
  • - GLORIA: BUT, NO, NOBODY--
  • 00:33:42.120 --> 00:33:43.270
  • IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LORD.
  • 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.000
  • - CLIFTON: THAT SOUNDS LIKE
  • 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.150
  • WEST ANGELES.
  • 00:33:50.150 --> 00:33:51.040
  • - GLORIA: NO, I GO TO
  • 00:33:51.040 --> 00:33:52.020
  • CHRISTIAN CULTURAL CENTER IN
  • 00:33:52.020 --> 00:33:52.280
  • BROOKLYN, NEW YORK.
  • 00:33:54.290 --> 00:33:57.290
  • - CLIFTON: OH, I KNOW, ALL
  • 00:33:57.290 --> 00:33:58.280
  • RIGHT, I'M FAMILIAR WITH HIM.
  • 00:33:58.280 --> 00:33:59.290
  • HE'S BEEN MY GUEST.
  • 00:33:59.290 --> 00:34:00.200
  • THE FORMER PASTOR WAS MY-- THE
  • 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.240
  • PASTOR EMERITUS WAS A GUEST OF
  • 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.100
  • MINE, 15 YEARS AGO, ON TBN IN
  • 00:34:03.100 --> 00:34:04.280
  • L.A., SO WHAT A BLESSING.
  • 00:34:04.280 --> 00:34:06.140
  • AND YOU HAVE DEVELOPED A HEART
  • 00:34:07.290 --> 00:34:10.290
  • FOR HELPING THOSE IN NEED, AND
  • 00:34:10.290 --> 00:34:12.280
  • THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
  • 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.000
  • WOULD YOU TALK TO US FOR A BIT
  • 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:16.180
  • ABOUT HOW THAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:34:16.180 --> 00:34:18.210
  • YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEONE WHO MADE
  • 00:34:19.050 --> 00:34:22.050
  • IT THROUGH A CHALLENGING TIME
  • 00:34:22.050 --> 00:34:24.260
  • WHERE YOU HAD GREAT NEEDS, HOW
  • 00:34:24.260 --> 00:34:27.020
  • DOES IT EMERGE THAT YOU CAN HELP
  • 00:34:27.020 --> 00:34:29.130
  • SOMEBODY ELSE?
  • 00:34:29.130 --> 00:34:30.200
  • - GLORIA: WELL, GOD HAS BLESSED
  • 00:34:30.200 --> 00:34:32.060
  • ME TREMENDOUSLY, AND I THINK
  • 00:34:32.060 --> 00:34:33.060
  • IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THE ONLY
  • 00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:38.070
  • REASON HE-- WELL, ONE OF THE
  • 00:34:38.070 --> 00:34:39.010
  • REASONS WHY HE DOES THAT IS SO
  • 00:34:39.010 --> 00:34:40.170
  • THAT YOU CAN BLESS OTHERS.
  • 00:34:40.170 --> 00:34:41.110
  • I GET ALL KINDS OF MAIL.
  • 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.070
  • I GET A STACK OF MAIL LIKE THAT.
  • 00:34:47.070 --> 00:34:48.180
  • THREE OF THEM ARE MAIL FOR ME,
  • 00:34:48.180 --> 00:34:50.050
  • OTHERS ARE CHARITIES.
  • 00:34:50.050 --> 00:34:53.000
  • SO THERE'S MANY, MANY CHARITIES,
  • 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:53.290
  • AND I DECIDED THAT I NEED TO
  • 00:34:53.290 --> 00:34:55.180
  • REALLY BRING IT DOWN TO--
  • 00:34:55.180 --> 00:34:58.060
  • INSTEAD OF SENDIN', YOU KNOW,
  • 00:34:58.060 --> 00:35:00.240
  • $5 TO THIS ONE AND $10 TO THAT
  • 00:35:00.240 --> 00:35:02.070
  • ONE, I NEED TO BRING IN THE--
  • 00:35:02.130 --> 00:35:05.130
  • CHOOSE THE CHARITIES THAT I
  • 00:35:05.130 --> 00:35:07.240
  • REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT, AND SO
  • 00:35:07.290 --> 00:35:10.290
  • I'VE DEVELOPED THIS-- CREATED
  • 00:35:10.290 --> 00:35:12.020
  • THIS WEBSITE CALLED
  • 00:35:12.020 --> 00:35:14.100
  • AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT IT'S
  • 00:35:18.270 --> 00:35:20.230
  • BECOME AN "I WILL SURVIVE"
  • 00:35:20.230 --> 00:35:21.140
  • COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE COME
  • 00:35:21.220 --> 00:35:24.220
  • ONTO THE SITE, AND THEY WRITE
  • 00:35:24.220 --> 00:35:26.260
  • THEIR SURVIVAL STORIES, AND SO
  • 00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:28.150
  • THEY SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, AND
  • 00:35:28.150 --> 00:35:29.280
  • THEY ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER
  • 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.110
  • THROUGH THAT, AND AT THE SAME
  • 00:35:31.110 --> 00:35:32.240
  • AND 10% OF EVERY PURCHASE GOES
  • 00:35:35.230 --> 00:35:36.190
  • TO A CHARITY OF THE BUYER'S
  • 00:35:36.190 --> 00:35:38.170
  • CHOICE.
  • 00:35:38.170 --> 00:35:40.080
  • WE HAVE EIGHT CHARITIES.
  • 00:35:40.080 --> 00:35:42.100
  • WE SUPPORT FISHER HOUSE, AND I
  • 00:35:43.030 --> 00:35:46.030
  • KNEW THAT I WASN'T GONNA
  • 00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:49.000
  • REMEMBER THESE TEN, BUT WE
  • 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.010
  • SUPPORT A NUMBER OF CHARITIES
  • 00:35:50.070 --> 00:35:53.070
  • FOR THE SOLDIERS, FOR ANIMAL
  • 00:35:53.070 --> 00:35:55.000
  • RESCUE, FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING,
  • 00:35:55.120 --> 00:35:58.120
  • FOR DISPLACED-- OR CHILDREN
  • 00:35:59.010 --> 00:36:02.030
  • HAVING DIFFICULTY IN THEIR
  • 00:36:02.030 --> 00:36:03.090
  • LIVES, HELPING THEM WITH SCHOOL
  • 00:36:03.090 --> 00:36:05.110
  • AND ALL OF THAT, GET AN
  • 00:36:05.110 --> 00:36:07.050
  • EDUCATION, AND SO YOU CAN GO
  • 00:36:09.020 --> 00:36:12.020
  • ONTO THE SITE, MAKE A PURCHASE
  • 00:36:12.020 --> 00:36:13.070
  • AND DONATE TO THE CHARITY OF
  • 00:36:13.070 --> 00:36:15.160
  • YOUR CHOICE, AND IT'S JUST MY
  • 00:36:15.160 --> 00:36:17.290
  • WAY OF GIVING BACK AND SOME OF
  • 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.000
  • THE BLESSING THAT THE LORD HAS
  • 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:21.230
  • BESTOWED UPON ME.
  • 00:36:21.230 --> 00:36:23.070
  • I THINK IT'S KIND OF THE LEAST I
  • 00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:24.270
  • CAN DO.
  • 00:36:24.270 --> 00:36:25.270
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, THAT'S A
  • 00:36:25.270 --> 00:36:26.160
  • WONDERFUL THING, YEAH.
  • 00:36:26.160 --> 00:36:27.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:36:29.040 --> 00:36:32.040
  • AND WHEN YOU BEGAN THIS
  • 00:36:32.040 --> 00:36:33.030
  • CHARITY, DID YOU FIND THAT
  • 00:36:33.030 --> 00:36:34.010
  • THOSE PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE
  • 00:36:34.010 --> 00:36:36.290
  • AVAILABLE FOR SALE, DID ANY OF
  • 00:36:36.290 --> 00:36:39.030
  • THOSE COMPANIES START DONATING
  • 00:36:39.030 --> 00:36:40.210
  • SO THAT THEY COULD BE A PART OF
  • 00:36:40.210 --> 00:36:42.010
  • THE CHARITABLE CIRCLE?
  • 00:36:42.010 --> 00:36:44.240
  • - GLORIA: NO.
  • 00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:50.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:36:50.010 --> 00:36:51.180
  • NO, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS
  • 00:36:51.180 --> 00:36:52.210
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN,
  • 00:36:52.210 --> 00:36:54.030
  • LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:36:54.030 --> 00:36:55.010
  • TO COME ON AND JUST MAKE
  • 00:36:55.010 --> 00:36:55.190
  • THOSE PURCHASES AND GIVE THAT
  • 00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:57.150
  • MONEY, AND WHAT THESE COMPANIES
  • 00:36:59.160 --> 00:37:02.180
  • HAVE DONE IS PUT MY SITE ONTO
  • 00:37:04.180 --> 00:37:07.180
  • THEIR WEBSITES, AND THEN PEOPLE
  • 00:37:07.180 --> 00:37:10.080
  • COME TO MY WEBSITE, NOT ONLY TO
  • 00:37:10.080 --> 00:37:12.060
  • MAKE PURCHASES, BUT TO DONATE TO
  • 00:37:12.060 --> 00:37:13.210
  • THEM THROUGH THAT WEBSITE AS
  • 00:37:13.210 --> 00:37:15.010
  • WELL.
  • 00:37:15.010 --> 00:37:15.250
  • - CLIFTON: OH, THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:37:15.250 --> 00:37:16.150
  • THAT'S EXCELLENT.
  • 00:37:16.150 --> 00:37:17.100
  • VERY GOOD.
  • 00:37:17.100 --> 00:37:19.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:37:19.150 --> 00:37:21.290
  • WELL, NOW, THAT'S ONLINE, BUT
  • 00:37:21.290 --> 00:37:22.290
  • HOW DO YOU USE YOUR TALENTS
  • 00:37:22.290 --> 00:37:24.000
  • TO HELP AS WELL?
  • 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.160
  • - GLORIA: OH, I SING FOR
  • 00:37:26.160 --> 00:37:27.240
  • DIFFERENT-- YOU KNOW, I'M SURE
  • 00:37:27.240 --> 00:37:29.230
  • YOU GET THE SAME THING--
  • 00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:32.040
  • DIFFERENT CHARITIES COMIN' TO
  • 00:37:32.040 --> 00:37:34.000
  • YOU, ASKING YOU TO SING AT THEIR
  • 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.210
  • FUNDRAISERS LIKE MIAMI
  • 00:37:35.210 --> 00:37:37.280
  • CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, DOWN IN
  • 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.130
  • FLORIDA, WHICH IS A CANCER
  • 00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:40.180
  • HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN, I HAVE
  • 00:37:40.180 --> 00:37:42.050
  • GONE THERE AND SUNG FOR THEM
  • 00:37:42.050 --> 00:37:45.000
  • DURING THEIR FUNDRAISERS, AND I
  • 00:37:45.240 --> 00:37:48.240
  • REWROTE THE WORDS TO "I WILL
  • 00:37:48.240 --> 00:37:50.220
  • SURVIVE," TO DO A CAMPAIGN FOR
  • 00:37:50.220 --> 00:37:52.160
  • THEM, AND DIFFERENT
  • 00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:54.240
  • ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME TO ME,
  • 00:37:56.020 --> 00:37:59.020
  • CANCER FUNDS, AND A DIABETES
  • 00:37:59.020 --> 00:38:01.270
  • FUND, AND DIFFERENT KINDS.
  • 00:38:01.270 --> 00:38:02.260
  • SO I DO IT THAT WAY.
  • 00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:04.260
  • I LEND MY TALENT TO THEIR
  • 00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:06.190
  • FUNDRAISERS.
  • 00:38:06.190 --> 00:38:08.130
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, THERE'S SOME
  • 00:38:08.130 --> 00:38:11.130
  • FOOTAGE THAT WE HAVE THAT I'D
  • 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.000
  • LIKE TO SHARE OUR AUDIENCE IF WE
  • 00:38:17.110 --> 00:38:20.110
  • CAN DO THAT NOW.
  • 00:38:20.110 --> 00:38:21.060
  • LET'S ROLL THAT PIECE OF TAPE.
  • 00:38:21.060 --> 00:38:23.090
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:38:28.170 --> 00:38:31.170
  • AT FIRST, I WAS AFRAID,
  • 00:38:31.170 --> 00:38:33.130
  • I WAS PETRIFIED,
  • 00:38:33.130 --> 00:38:35.010
  • KEPT THINKIN' I COULD NEVER
  • 00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:36.080
  • LIVE WITHOUT YOU BY MY SIDE,
  • 00:38:36.080 --> 00:38:39.020
  • BUT THEN I SPENT SO MANY
  • 00:38:39.020 --> 00:38:40.230
  • NIGHTS THINKIN' HOW YOU DID
  • 00:38:40.230 --> 00:38:41.270
  • ME WRONG,
  • 00:38:41.270 --> 00:38:42.200
  • AND I GREW STRONG AND
  • 00:38:42.200 --> 00:38:43.270
  • I LEARNED HOW TO GET ALONG
  • 00:38:43.270 --> 00:38:46.170
  • SO NOW YOU'RE BACK FROM OUTER
  • 00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:47.220
  • SPACE
  • 00:38:47.220 --> 00:38:50.080
  • I JUST WALKED IN TO FIND YOU
  • 00:38:50.080 --> 00:38:51.160
  • HERE
  • 00:38:51.160 --> 00:38:53.030
  • WITH THAT SAD LOOK UPON
  • 00:38:53.030 --> 00:38:53.250
  • YOUR FACE
  • 00:38:53.250 --> 00:38:54.180
  • I SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THAT
  • 00:38:54.180 --> 00:38:55.170
  • STUPID LOCK
  • 00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:56.130
  • I SHOULD HAVE MADE YOU LEAVE
  • 00:38:56.130 --> 00:38:57.070
  • YOUR KEY
  • 00:38:57.070 --> 00:38:58.050
  • IF I'D KNOWN FOR JUST
  • 00:38:58.050 --> 00:38:59.160
  • ONE SECOND YOU'D BE BACK TO
  • 00:38:59.160 --> 00:39:00.080
  • BOTHER ME
  • 00:39:00.080 --> 00:39:01.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:39:01.270 --> 00:39:02.170
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:39:02.170 --> 00:39:03.110
  • - GLORIA: OH, YEAH, THAT WAS SO
  • 00:39:03.110 --> 00:39:04.030
  • MUCH FUN.
  • 00:39:04.030 --> 00:39:04.230
  • - CLIFTON: THOSE KINDS OF
  • 00:39:04.230 --> 00:39:05.150
  • THINGS ARE SO EXCITING, AREN'T
  • 00:39:05.150 --> 00:39:06.060
  • THEY?
  • 00:39:06.060 --> 00:39:06.150
  • - GLORIA: OH, YEAH, IT WAS.
  • 00:39:06.150 --> 00:39:07.050
  • - CLIFTON: OH, I KNOW THAT MUST
  • 00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:07.270
  • BE FUN FOR YOU THOUGH.
  • 00:39:07.270 --> 00:39:08.140
  • - GLORIA: IT WAS.
  • 00:39:08.140 --> 00:39:08.290
  • - CLIFTON: OH, ASIDE FROM THE
  • 00:39:08.290 --> 00:39:09.220
  • FACT THAT YOU GET TO SING, IT'S
  • 00:39:09.220 --> 00:39:11.060
  • JUST GREAT TO SEE SO MANY
  • 00:39:11.060 --> 00:39:12.270
  • SURVIVORS AND SUPPORTERS FOR
  • 00:39:12.270 --> 00:39:14.230
  • SURVIVORS OF CANCER, AND THERE'S
  • 00:39:14.230 --> 00:39:17.040
  • SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE TO SURVIVE
  • 00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:20.030
  • IN THIS WORLD TODAY.
  • 00:39:20.030 --> 00:39:21.290
  • - GLORIA: YES.
  • 00:39:21.290 --> 00:39:23.140
  • - CLIFTON: THE NEWS IS JUST
  • 00:39:23.140 --> 00:39:26.060
  • RIFE WITH ALL KINDS OF
  • 00:39:26.060 --> 00:39:28.170
  • CHALLENGES, AND, WELL, WE WERE
  • 00:39:30.080 --> 00:39:33.080
  • GRATEFUL FOR OPRAH'S WORDS, AND
  • 00:39:33.080 --> 00:39:34.020
  • WE'RE--
  • 00:39:34.020 --> 00:39:36.180
  • - GLORIA: AND I DIDN'T
  • 00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:37.280
  • GET TO HEAR THEM BECAUSE I WAS
  • 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.250
  • BUSY CRAFTING A MESSAGE TO--
  • 00:39:39.250 --> 00:39:42.120
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, GO TO YOUTUBE,
  • 00:39:42.120 --> 00:39:43.130
  • HONEY.
  • 00:39:43.130 --> 00:39:45.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:39:45.270 --> 00:39:46.110
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, I WILL.
  • 00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:47.100
  • - CLIFTON: MM, MM, MM, THAT'S
  • 00:39:47.100 --> 00:39:48.140
  • ALL I CAN SAY.
  • 00:39:48.140 --> 00:39:50.170
  • - GLORIA: UH-HUH.
  • 00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:51.140
  • - CLIFTON: JUST AMAZING.
  • 00:39:51.140 --> 00:39:52.030
  • - GLORIA: WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL.
  • 00:39:52.230 --> 00:39:55.230
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:57.270
  • - CLIFTON: I WOULD IMAGINE,
  • 00:39:57.270 --> 00:39:59.130
  • WITH ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO,
  • 00:39:59.130 --> 00:40:01.050
  • NOT JUST ENTERTAINING,
  • 00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:02.150
  • BUT MINISTERING AND WORKING WITH
  • 00:40:02.190 --> 00:40:05.190
  • YOUR ONLINE CHARITY AND THINGS
  • 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:07.040
  • LIKE THAT, THAT THERE ARE LIVES
  • 00:40:08.180 --> 00:40:11.180
  • THAT HAVE BEEN TOUCHED,
  • 00:40:11.180 --> 00:40:14.160
  • TRANSFORMED, CHANGED BY SOME OF
  • 00:40:14.160 --> 00:40:17.080
  • THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND
  • 00:40:17.080 --> 00:40:19.070
  • YOU MIGHT HAVE A STORY OR TWO OF
  • 00:40:19.070 --> 00:40:21.020
  • ONE OR TWO OF THOSE.
  • 00:40:21.020 --> 00:40:23.020
  • WOULD YOU MIND SHARING THAT WITH
  • 00:40:23.020 --> 00:40:24.200
  • US?
  • 00:40:25.180 --> 00:40:28.180
  • - GLORIA: WELL, MY, I THINK,
  • 00:40:29.030 --> 00:40:32.030
  • MOST FAVORITE, MOST POIGNANT
  • 00:40:32.030 --> 00:40:34.130
  • STORY IS ABOUT I WAS OVER IN
  • 00:40:34.180 --> 00:40:37.180
  • AND I HAD JUST CHANGED THE
  • 00:40:40.290 --> 00:40:42.190
  • LYRICS OF "I WILL SURVIVE" TO BE
  • 00:40:42.190 --> 00:40:44.250
  • IN KEEPING WITH MY FAITH, AND
  • 00:40:44.250 --> 00:40:47.060
  • WHERE IT ORIGINALLY SAID, "IT
  • 00:40:47.060 --> 00:40:49.170
  • TOOK ALL THE STRENGTH I HAD NOT
  • 00:40:49.170 --> 00:40:50.170
  • I CHANGED IT TO SAY, "ONLY THE
  • 00:40:52.270 --> 00:40:55.000
  • LORD COULD GIVE ME STRENGTH NOT
  • 00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:56.010
  • TO FALL APART," SIMPLY 'CAUSE
  • 00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:57.060
  • THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:40:57.060 --> 00:40:58.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:58.100 --> 00:41:00.240
  • AND SO I SANG THOSE WORDS
  • 00:41:00.240 --> 00:41:02.210
  • FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THIS
  • 00:41:02.210 --> 00:41:04.090
  • CONCERT IN ITALY, AND A YOUNG
  • 00:41:04.090 --> 00:41:05.160
  • LADY CAME TO ME AFTER THE SHOW,
  • 00:41:05.160 --> 00:41:07.000
  • AND SHE SAID, "I'M SO GLAD I
  • 00:41:07.060 --> 00:41:10.060
  • CAME TO SEE YOUR SHOW," AND I
  • 00:41:10.140 --> 00:41:13.140
  • SAID, "THANK YOU."
  • 00:41:13.140 --> 00:41:15.010
  • SHE SAID, "I WAS SUPPOSED
  • 00:41:15.110 --> 00:41:18.110
  • TO GO HOME TODAY,
  • 00:41:18.110 --> 00:41:19.210
  • BUT I MISSED MY FLIGHT."
  • 00:41:19.210 --> 00:41:21.200
  • I SAID, "OH, I'M SORRY."
  • 00:41:21.200 --> 00:41:22.090
  • SHE SAID, "NO,
  • 00:41:22.090 --> 00:41:23.030
  • YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:23.200
  • I'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF
  • 00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:26.170
  • DIFFICULTY HERE IN MY LIFE," SHE
  • 00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:31.190
  • SAID, "AND WHERE I'M STAYING
  • 00:41:31.190 --> 00:41:33.020
  • HERE, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRIVACY,
  • 00:41:33.020 --> 00:41:34.260
  • BUT I WAS SO DEPRESSED THAT I
  • 00:41:34.260 --> 00:41:37.250
  • WAS GOING HOME TO COMMIT
  • 00:41:37.250 --> 00:41:39.040
  • SUICIDE."
  • 00:41:39.040 --> 00:41:41.200
  • SHE SAID, "BUT NOW THAT
  • 00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:43.080
  • I'VE HEARD THE WORDS TO
  • 00:41:43.080 --> 00:41:44.240
  • YOUR SONG, I KNOW WHERE MY
  • 00:41:44.240 --> 00:41:46.220
  • STRENGTH CAN COME FROM, AND I
  • 00:41:46.220 --> 00:41:48.120
  • DON'T HAVE TO DIE."
  • 00:41:48.120 --> 00:41:49.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:41:49.030 --> 00:41:51.240
  • SO, OF COURSE, WE WERE BOTH
  • 00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:53.260
  • STANDIN' THERE, A PUDDLE, YOU
  • 00:41:53.260 --> 00:41:55.120
  • KNOW.
  • 00:41:55.120 --> 00:41:55.290
  • YEAH, YEAH, "I KNOW WHERE MY
  • 00:41:55.290 --> 00:41:56.260
  • STRENGTH CAN COME FROM, AND I
  • 00:41:56.260 --> 00:41:57.280
  • DON'T HAVE TO DIE."
  • 00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:58.170
  • - CLIFTON: HALLELUJAH.
  • 00:41:58.170 --> 00:41:59.220
  • I AM SO ALWAYS SO GLAD TO HEAR
  • 00:41:59.220 --> 00:42:02.240
  • THAT, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:42:03.140 --> 00:42:06.140
  • IT'S HAPPENED TO ME A COUPLE OF
  • 00:42:06.140 --> 00:42:08.170
  • TIMES IN MY LIFE WHERE SOME
  • 00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:10.130
  • TESTIMONY I GAVE OR SOME MESSAGE
  • 00:42:10.200 --> 00:42:13.200
  • I GAVE CAUSED SOMEONE TO CHANGE
  • 00:42:13.270 --> 00:42:16.270
  • THEIR MIND AND TO TRY TO
  • 00:42:16.270 --> 00:42:18.190
  • SURVIVE.
  • 00:42:18.190 --> 00:42:21.070
  • BUT HOW WONDERFUL THAT SOON AS
  • 00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:22.160
  • YOU GAVE IT TO THE LORD, HE GAVE
  • 00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:24.050
  • YOU A WITNESS.
  • 00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:25.030
  • HE GAVE YOU A TESTIMONY AND
  • 00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:27.160
  • SOMEBODY WHOSE LIFE WAS
  • 00:42:27.160 --> 00:42:29.070
  • POSITIVELY IMPACTED BY THAT
  • 00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:31.060
  • LITTLE CHANGE IN THE LYRIC.
  • 00:42:31.060 --> 00:42:32.090
  • YOUR SONGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:42:35.240 --> 00:42:38.240
  • SINGING TODAY ARE A PART OF A
  • 00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:39.230
  • NEW PROJECT.
  • 00:42:39.230 --> 00:42:40.130
  • TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
  • 00:42:41.030 --> 00:42:44.030
  • THE BIRTH OF THE PROJECT, WHERE
  • 00:42:44.060 --> 00:42:47.060
  • THE IDEA CAME FROM, AND WHAT'S
  • 00:42:47.060 --> 00:42:49.080
  • IT CALLED, AND WHEN CAN WE LOOK
  • 00:42:49.080 --> 00:42:50.220
  • FOR IT?
  • 00:42:50.220 --> 00:42:52.070
  • - GLORIA: WELL, WE HAVE, FIRST
  • 00:42:52.070 --> 00:42:53.090
  • OF ALL, THE PRODUCER
  • 00:42:53.090 --> 00:42:55.050
  • CHRIS STEVENS, WHO IS A
  • 00:42:55.050 --> 00:42:57.050
  • MULTI-AWARD-WINNING PRODUCER,
  • 00:42:58.140 --> 00:43:01.160
  • MANY DOVE AWARDS AND GRAMMY
  • 00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:04.010
  • AWARDS FOR HIS MUSIC.
  • 00:43:04.010 --> 00:43:04.260
  • WE HAVE MIKE FARRIS, WHO IS AN
  • 00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:06.180
  • AWESOME SINGER.
  • 00:43:06.180 --> 00:43:09.000
  • WE HAVE BART MILLARD FROM
  • 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.130
  • MERCYME.
  • 00:43:11.130 --> 00:43:13.260
  • WE HAVE JASON CRABB, WHO IS A
  • 00:43:13.260 --> 00:43:16.020
  • WONDERFUL SINGER, COME FROM A
  • 00:43:16.020 --> 00:43:17.170
  • LONG, LONG LINE OF FAMILY
  • 00:43:17.170 --> 00:43:20.060
  • MEMBERS THAT SING, AND THE
  • 00:43:20.060 --> 00:43:21.280
  • INEVITABLE YOLANDA ADAMS, AND SO
  • 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:22.200
  • IT'S STAR-FILLED.
  • 00:43:22.210 --> 00:43:25.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:43:25.210 --> 00:43:28.040
  • - CLIFTON: AWESOME.
  • 00:43:28.040 --> 00:43:29.240
  • WELL, WHAT A BLESSING.
  • 00:43:29.240 --> 00:43:30.110
  • - GLORIA: IT IS A BLESSING.
  • 00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:31.180
  • - CLIFTON: AND THE COMPOSITIONS
  • 00:43:31.180 --> 00:43:32.100
  • ARE ALL WRITTEN BY YOU.
  • 00:43:32.100 --> 00:43:33.190
  • - GLORIA: ALL WRITTEN BY ME AND
  • 00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:34.210
  • CHRIS 'CAUSE HE'S AN AWESOME
  • 00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:38.130
  • WRITER AND A LYRICIST AND
  • 00:43:39.050 --> 00:43:42.050
  • COMPOSER, AND I'M A LYRICIST, SO
  • 00:43:42.050 --> 00:43:43.280
  • WE WORK TOGETHER ON THESE
  • 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:46.070
  • THINGS, AND IT'S CALLED
  • 00:43:46.070 --> 00:43:48.110
  • "TESTIMONY," BECAUSE IT IS MY
  • 00:43:48.110 --> 00:43:50.040
  • TESTIMONY OF THE WONDERFUL
  • 00:43:50.040 --> 00:43:52.120
  • THINGS THAT THE LORD HAS DONE IN
  • 00:43:52.120 --> 00:43:53.180
  • MY LIFE AND CAN AND WILL DO IN
  • 00:43:53.180 --> 00:43:55.260
  • ANYBODY ELSE'S LIFE WHO IS
  • 00:43:55.260 --> 00:43:57.070
  • WILLING TO COME TO HIM AND
  • 00:43:57.070 --> 00:43:58.140
  • SURRENDER, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:43:58.140 --> 00:44:01.150
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:44:01.150 --> 00:44:03.160
  • - GLORIA: KIND OF A DIFFICULT
  • 00:44:03.160 --> 00:44:05.020
  • THING TO DO SOMETIMES, BUT, OH,
  • 00:44:05.020 --> 00:44:06.050
  • MY GOD, IS IT WORTH IT, AND YOU
  • 00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:07.210
  • REALIZE--
  • 00:44:07.210 --> 00:44:08.280
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:09.220
  • YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK BACK AND
  • 00:44:14.140 --> 00:44:17.140
  • YOU THINK, "WHAT ON GOD'S
  • 00:44:17.140 --> 00:44:18.030
  • GREEN EARTH WAS I THINKING?"
  • 00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:19.160
  • - CLIFTON: OH, HON, HON, I'VE
  • 00:44:19.160 --> 00:44:21.130
  • FELT THAT WAY.
  • 00:44:21.130 --> 00:44:22.130
  • - GLORIA: RIGHT?
  • 00:44:22.130 --> 00:44:23.150
  • - CLIFTON: I'VE FELT THAT WAY
  • 00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:24.130
  • SINCE I COME TO KNOWN THE LORD.
  • 00:44:24.130 --> 00:44:26.000
  • - GLORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:26.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:27.140
  • - CLIFTON: "WHAT WAS I
  • 00:44:27.140 --> 00:44:28.180
  • THINKING?"
  • 00:44:28.180 --> 00:44:29.270
  • YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE ENEMY WILL
  • 00:44:29.270 --> 00:44:30.290
  • SLIP IN AND MAKE EVEN GOOD
  • 00:44:30.290 --> 00:44:33.070
  • PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO
  • 00:44:33.070 --> 00:44:35.250
  • WHAT'S RIGHT-- SOMEHOW, THEY DO
  • 00:44:35.250 --> 00:44:38.040
  • WRONG.
  • 00:44:38.040 --> 00:44:39.040
  • IN FACT, PAUL TALKED ABOUT IT IN
  • 00:44:39.040 --> 00:44:40.150
  • ROMANS, THE SEVENTH CHAPTER:
  • 00:44:40.150 --> 00:44:41.180
  • "THE GOOD THAT I WOULD DO, I DO
  • 00:44:41.180 --> 00:44:43.270
  • NOT, AND THAT WHICH I WOULD NOT
  • 00:44:43.270 --> 00:44:45.230
  • DO, THAT I DO.
  • 00:44:45.230 --> 00:44:47.230
  • O, WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM.
  • 00:44:47.230 --> 00:44:49.280
  • WHO WILL DELIVER ME FROM THIS?
  • 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.080
  • JESUS CHRIST."
  • 00:44:51.120 --> 00:44:54.120
  • JESUS CHRIST WILL DELIVER ME.
  • 00:44:54.120 --> 00:44:57.020
  • - GLORIA: AND ONLY
  • 00:44:57.020 --> 00:44:58.110
  • JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:44:58.110 --> 00:44:58.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:58.250 --> 00:45:00.200
  • - CLIFTON: WHERE DID YOU
  • 00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:03.140
  • FIND THE SONGS FOR THIS ALBUM?
  • 00:45:03.140 --> 00:45:05.250
  • - GLORIA: WE WROTE THEM.
  • 00:45:05.250 --> 00:45:07.020
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, NOW, THAT'S
  • 00:45:07.020 --> 00:45:08.010
  • WHAT I WAS TRYIN' TO FIND OUT.
  • 00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:09.140
  • - GLORIA: YES, WE WROTE THEM.
  • 00:45:09.140 --> 00:45:10.090
  • - CLIFTON: YOU COMPOSED ALL OF
  • 00:45:10.090 --> 00:45:11.130
  • THESE SONGS?
  • 00:45:11.130 --> 00:45:12.110
  • SO WHAT WE'VE HEARD ON THE
  • 00:45:12.110 --> 00:45:13.240
  • BROADCAST TONIGHT ARE YOUR
  • 00:45:13.240 --> 00:45:14.220
  • ORIGINAL COMPOSITIONS?
  • 00:45:14.220 --> 00:45:16.000
  • - GLORIA: ORIGINAL
  • 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:16.160
  • COMPOSITIONS.
  • 00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:17.050
  • - CLIFTON: GIVE IT UP!
  • 00:45:17.050 --> 00:45:19.140
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:45:20.220 --> 00:45:23.220
  • - GLORIA: CHRIS STEVENS IS A
  • 00:45:23.220 --> 00:45:24.130
  • WONDERFUL WRITER.
  • 00:45:24.130 --> 00:45:25.120
  • HE'S A WONDERFUL MUSICIAN, AND
  • 00:45:25.140 --> 00:45:28.140
  • SO HE'S DONE ALL THE MUSIC, AND
  • 00:45:28.140 --> 00:45:31.010
  • I'M SIMPLY A LYRICIST, SO HE AND
  • 00:45:31.010 --> 00:45:33.120
  • I WORKED TOGETHER ON THE LYRICS
  • 00:45:33.120 --> 00:45:35.230
  • AND CAME UP WITH THESE SONGS
  • 00:45:35.230 --> 00:45:38.110
  • THAT TELL THE STORY OF MY FAITH
  • 00:45:39.010 --> 00:45:42.010
  • AND HIS FAITH AS WELL, AND WHAT
  • 00:45:42.030 --> 00:45:45.030
  • GOD HAS DONE AND CAN AND WILL DO
  • 00:45:45.030 --> 00:45:46.170
  • IN ANYBODY'S LIFE, AND IT'S JUST
  • 00:45:46.170 --> 00:45:49.150
  • BEEN A WONDERFUL JOURNEY WITH
  • 00:45:49.150 --> 00:45:52.030
  • HIM ON THIS ALBUM.
  • 00:45:52.030 --> 00:45:53.240
  • AND WE HAVE GONE TO A NUMBER OF
  • 00:45:54.190 --> 00:45:57.190
  • RECORD COMPANIES, AND TODAY THE
  • 00:45:58.190 --> 00:46:01.210
  • RECORD BUSINESS IS JUST SO
  • 00:46:01.230 --> 00:46:04.230
  • STRANGE, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW.
  • 00:46:04.230 --> 00:46:06.290
  • IT'S, LIKE, REALLY, REALLY
  • 00:46:06.290 --> 00:46:09.020
  • WEIRD, AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN
  • 00:46:09.110 --> 00:46:12.110
  • WHO HAS WORKED WITH US IN THE
  • 00:46:12.110 --> 00:46:14.070
  • BUSINESS OF THE BUSINESS, CALLED
  • 00:46:14.070 --> 00:46:16.200
  • ME LAST WEEK, AND HE SAID, "YOU
  • 00:46:16.200 --> 00:46:18.280
  • KNOW, GLORIA, LOOKING BACK OVER
  • 00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:21.060
  • YOUR CAREER AND OVER YOUR
  • 00:46:21.060 --> 00:46:23.000
  • TESTIMONY," HE SAID, "I SEE THAT
  • 00:46:23.050 --> 00:46:26.050
  • GOD HAS OFTEN USED UNORTHODOX
  • 00:46:26.050 --> 00:46:28.170
  • WAYS OF GETTING YOU TO WHERE HE
  • 00:46:28.170 --> 00:46:31.170
  • WANTS YOU TO BE WITH YOUR MUSIC
  • 00:46:31.170 --> 00:46:33.030
  • AND YOUR CHRISTIAN LIFE."
  • 00:46:33.030 --> 00:46:34.160
  • HE SAID, "MAYBE THAT'S
  • 00:46:34.160 --> 00:46:35.040
  • HIS PLAN NOW,
  • 00:46:35.040 --> 00:46:37.080
  • SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD PRAY
  • 00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:38.120
  • ABOUT IT."
  • 00:46:38.120 --> 00:46:38.280
  • SO LAST SATURDAY, SEVEN PEOPLE
  • 00:46:39.080 --> 00:46:42.080
  • GOT ON THE PHONE WITH ME,
  • 00:46:42.080 --> 00:46:43.100
  • SOME IN CALIFORNIA AND
  • 00:46:43.100 --> 00:46:44.230
  • TEXAS AND--
  • 00:46:44.230 --> 00:46:46.090
  • - CLIFTON: PRAYER CIRCLE,
  • 00:46:46.090 --> 00:46:47.040
  • PRAYER CHAIN.
  • 00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:47.230
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, PRAYER CIRCLE,
  • 00:46:47.230 --> 00:46:50.060
  • AND PRAYED FOR THE LORD'S
  • 00:46:50.060 --> 00:46:51.180
  • GUIDANCE IN WHAT HE WOULD HAVE
  • 00:46:51.180 --> 00:46:53.030
  • ME DO WITH THIS PROJECT SO--
  • 00:46:53.030 --> 00:46:55.050
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:58.260
  • YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT THIS
  • 00:46:58.260 --> 00:47:00.190
  • PROJECT, I JUST WANT THESE
  • 00:47:00.190 --> 00:47:03.160
  • SONGS, THESE WORDS, TO GET TO
  • 00:47:03.160 --> 00:47:06.010
  • WHEREVER HE WANTS THEM TO GO,
  • 00:47:06.010 --> 00:47:07.160
  • AND I KNOW THAT HE WOULD DO
  • 00:47:07.160 --> 00:47:09.040
  • THAT, SO I'M-- YOU KNOW, ONE OF
  • 00:47:09.040 --> 00:47:11.190
  • THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING ABOUT
  • 00:47:11.270 --> 00:47:14.270
  • OUR LORD IS THAT HE IS NEVER IN
  • 00:47:14.270 --> 00:47:15.260
  • A HURRY 'CAUSE HE LITERALLY HAS
  • 00:47:15.260 --> 00:47:17.040
  • ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD SO--
  • 00:47:17.040 --> 00:47:18.170
  • - CLIFTON: YES, HE DOES.
  • 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:19.140
  • - GLORIA: HE TOLD ME--
  • 00:47:19.140 --> 00:47:20.210
  • SENT ME TO THESSALONIANS
  • 00:47:20.210 --> 00:47:23.140
  • AND SAID, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:47:23.140 --> 00:47:24.000
  • "YOU HAVE NEED OF PATIENCE."
  • 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.160
  • SO I'M BEING PATIENT
  • 00:47:26.160 --> 00:47:28.030
  • AND JUST LETTING HIM SET THINGS
  • 00:47:28.030 --> 00:47:30.210
  • UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU LET
  • 00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:32.120
  • HIM SET THINGS UP AND YOU LET
  • 00:47:32.120 --> 00:47:33.260
  • HIM DO IT, NOTHING COULD BE
  • 00:47:33.260 --> 00:47:35.000
  • BETTER.
  • 00:47:35.020 --> 00:47:38.020
  • NOTHING COULD BE BETTER SO--
  • 00:47:38.020 --> 00:47:39.080
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, I SAW A
  • 00:47:39.080 --> 00:47:42.030
  • PICTURE OF YOU AND I,
  • 00:47:42.220 --> 00:47:45.220
  • TAKEN MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
  • 00:47:46.010 --> 00:47:49.010
  • DID THEY HAVE A COPY OF IT?
  • 00:47:49.010 --> 00:47:50.200
  • DID YOU GUYS-- YES!
  • 00:47:50.200 --> 00:47:52.140
  • BECAUSE, BACK IN THE DAY, OUR
  • 00:47:52.140 --> 00:47:53.270
  • CAREERS WERE TAKIN' OFF, YOU
  • 00:47:53.270 --> 00:47:56.100
  • KNOW.
  • 00:47:56.100 --> 00:47:58.040
  • I WAS THE HOT YOUNG TELEVISION
  • 00:47:58.040 --> 00:48:00.180
  • AND BROADWAY STAR, AND YOU WERE
  • 00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:01.190
  • A HOT RECORDING ARTIST, AND
  • 00:48:01.190 --> 00:48:03.130
  • EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING GREAT,
  • 00:48:04.020 --> 00:48:07.020
  • AND THEN THE PATHWAYS TURNED,
  • 00:48:07.210 --> 00:48:10.210
  • AND THE POTHOLES AND THE
  • 00:48:10.210 --> 00:48:12.210
  • PITFALLS CAME INTO THE PATHWAY,
  • 00:48:12.260 --> 00:48:15.260
  • AND I STUMBLED IN A BIG WAY, AND
  • 00:48:17.230 --> 00:48:20.230
  • YOU HAD TO COME TO KNOW THE
  • 00:48:20.230 --> 00:48:22.070
  • LORD, AND I CAME TO KNOW THE
  • 00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:25.040
  • LORD IN 1980, '81, AND I HAD--
  • 00:48:25.040 --> 00:48:26.180
  • THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO COPE WITH
  • 00:48:29.150 --> 00:48:32.150
  • ALL THE ADDICTIONS AND MADNESS
  • 00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:35.160
  • THAT I HAD INSIDE OF ME WAS TO
  • 00:48:35.160 --> 00:48:38.040
  • WALK AWAY FROM EVERYTHING.
  • 00:48:39.020 --> 00:48:42.020
  • I HAD TO WALK AWAY FROM
  • 00:48:42.020 --> 00:48:43.040
  • EVERYTHING FOR A MINUTE UNTIL
  • 00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:44.040
  • THE LORD SAID, "COME BACK," AND
  • 00:48:44.040 --> 00:48:46.150
  • HE BROUGHT ME BACK, DOING A SHOW
  • 00:48:46.150 --> 00:48:48.050
  • CALLED "AMEN," WHERE I COULD
  • 00:48:48.050 --> 00:48:49.090
  • MINISTER.
  • 00:48:49.090 --> 00:48:51.120
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:48:51.120 --> 00:48:53.070
  • - GLORIA: I REMEMBER WELL.
  • 00:48:53.260 --> 00:48:56.260
  • - CLIFTON: AND I JUST THINK
  • 00:48:56.260 --> 00:48:57.170
  • IT'S A WONDERFUL THING THAT YOU
  • 00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:01.000
  • ONLY TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF TO
  • 00:49:01.270 --> 00:49:04.270
  • COME AROUND TO GET TO THE PLACE
  • 00:49:04.270 --> 00:49:06.070
  • WHERE GOD COULD USE YOU IN THE
  • 00:49:06.070 --> 00:49:07.000
  • WAY THAT HE COULD USE YOU, DOING
  • 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:08.030
  • WHAT YOU HAD BEEN DOING BEFORE,
  • 00:49:08.030 --> 00:49:10.030
  • BUT WITH HIS PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:49:10.030 --> 00:49:12.010
  • - GLORIA: YES, YES.
  • 00:49:12.010 --> 00:49:13.060
  • - CLIFTON: IT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:49:13.060 --> 00:49:14.250
  • - GLORIA: YOU KNOW, MEN ARE
  • 00:49:14.250 --> 00:49:16.020
  • MORE DIFFICULT MORE THAN WOMEN,
  • 00:49:16.020 --> 00:49:17.050
  • AND YOU WANNA KNOW SOMETHING?
  • 00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:17.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:17.260 --> 00:49:18.070
  • I THINK--
  • 00:49:18.070 --> 00:49:19.220
  • - CLIFTON: OH, TELL IT!
  • 00:49:19.220 --> 00:49:20.100
  • - GLORIA: I KNOW YOU THINK IT'S
  • 00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:21.020
  • THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
  • 00:49:21.020 --> 00:49:21.280
  • - CLIFTON: OH, I'M NOT WOUNDED.
  • 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.040
  • SHE'S TELLIN' THE TRUTH.
  • 00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:23.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:23.220 --> 00:49:24.180
  • - GLORIA: BUT I TELL YOU
  • 00:49:24.180 --> 00:49:26.020
  • WHAT, I REALLY BELIEVE--
  • 00:49:26.020 --> 00:49:27.040
  • AND I HAVE NO BASIS
  • 00:49:27.040 --> 00:49:29.270
  • FOR THIS BELIEF, OKAY?
  • 00:49:29.270 --> 00:49:30.140
  • MAYBE INTUITION.
  • 00:49:30.140 --> 00:49:33.000
  • I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IN
  • 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.260
  • SOMEWHERE IN THE DNA OF A MAN,
  • 00:49:34.260 --> 00:49:36.250
  • EVERY MAN, THAT HE KNOWS HE'S
  • 00:49:36.250 --> 00:49:39.230
  • SUPPOSED TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE
  • 00:49:39.230 --> 00:49:41.280
  • FATHER AND HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS
  • 00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.010
  • FIRSTHAND.
  • 00:49:43.010 --> 00:49:45.110
  • - CLIFTON: MM, HMM.
  • 00:49:45.110 --> 00:49:46.120
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, I THINK
  • 00:49:46.120 --> 00:49:47.180
  • THAT'S--
  • 00:49:47.180 --> 00:49:48.080
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, IT TOOK ME--
  • 00:49:48.080 --> 00:49:48.290
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:48.290 --> 00:49:49.170
  • - GLORIA: NO, I REALLY THINK
  • 00:49:49.170 --> 00:49:50.140
  • THAT THEY HAVE THAT, AND SO
  • 00:49:50.140 --> 00:49:51.270
  • THEY, INSTINCTIVELY, THEY KNOW
  • 00:49:51.270 --> 00:49:54.140
  • THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE
  • 00:49:54.140 --> 00:49:55.280
  • ANSWERS,
  • 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:56.230
  • AND SO THEY ACT LIKE THEY HAVE
  • 00:49:56.230 --> 00:49:57.290
  • 'EM.
  • 00:49:57.290 --> 00:49:58.190
  • THEY DON'T.
  • 00:49:58.190 --> 00:49:59.110
  • - CLIFTON: THEY DON'T.
  • 00:49:59.110 --> 00:50:00.080
  • - GLORIA: BUT THEY ACT LIKE
  • 00:50:00.080 --> 00:50:00.280
  • THEY DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO
  • 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.130
  • GET TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY
  • 00:50:02.130 --> 00:50:03.280
  • KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.090
  • TO GET THE ANSWERS FROM.
  • 00:50:05.090 --> 00:50:06.160
  • - CLIFTON: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:07.120
  • THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:50:07.120 --> 00:50:08.130
  • WOULD YOU TAKE A MOMENT AND LOOK
  • 00:50:08.130 --> 00:50:10.090
  • INTO THAT CAMERA RIGHT THERE AND
  • 00:50:10.090 --> 00:50:11.210
  • TELL SOMEBODY HOW IMPORTANT IT
  • 00:50:11.210 --> 00:50:13.160
  • IS TO GET TO KNOW THE LORD AND
  • 00:50:13.160 --> 00:50:15.060
  • TO SURVIVE.
  • 00:50:15.060 --> 00:50:16.250
  • - GLORIA: "I WILL SURVIVE" IS
  • 00:50:16.250 --> 00:50:18.250
  • THE NAME OF MY SONG, BUT I KNOW
  • 00:50:18.250 --> 00:50:21.110
  • NOW THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT THOSE
  • 00:50:22.230 --> 00:50:25.230
  • WORDS ARE MORE THAN A CATCH
  • 00:50:26.130 --> 00:50:29.130
  • PHRASE IS IF YOU GET TO KNOW THE
  • 00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:33.160
  • LORD JESUS CHRIST, IF YOU ALLOW
  • 00:50:33.180 --> 00:50:36.180
  • HIM INTO YOUR HEART AND ALLOW
  • 00:50:36.180 --> 00:50:38.140
  • HIM TO BRING OUT OF YOU ALL OF
  • 00:50:39.140 --> 00:50:42.140
  • THE GIFTS, TALENTS, ABILITIES
  • 00:50:42.140 --> 00:50:44.100
  • THAT HE HAS PLACED WITHIN YOU.
  • 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.000
  • YOU WILL NEVER REGRET IT.
  • 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.250
  • YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK, AND
  • 00:50:50.250 --> 00:50:52.190
  • YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A BETTER
  • 00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:54.070
  • LIFE.
  • 00:50:54.070 --> 00:50:55.260
  • HE IS AWESOME.
  • 00:50:57.050 --> 00:51:00.070
  • IF YOU DON'T KNOW JESUS, YOU
  • 00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:01.110
  • DON'T KNOW AWESOME.
  • 00:51:01.110 --> 00:51:04.080
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:51:04.080 --> 00:51:05.280
  • THANK YOU, GLORIA GAYNOR.
  • 00:51:06.240 --> 00:51:09.240
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:09.240 --> 00:51:11.210
  • MMWAH!
  • 00:51:11.260 --> 00:51:14.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:51:14.260 --> 00:51:16.090
  • I'M SORRY MY WIFE WASN'T HERE
  • 00:51:16.090 --> 00:51:17.200
  • TONIGHT TO MEET YOU,
  • 00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:20.260
  • BUT WE'LL BRING MONICA TO MEET
  • 00:51:20.260 --> 00:51:21.220
  • YOU AT ANOTHER TIME.
  • 00:51:21.220 --> 00:51:23.100
  • - GLORIA: THAT'D BE AWESOME.
  • 00:51:23.100 --> 00:51:24.010
  • - CLIFTON: I'VE GOT TO SAY
  • 00:51:25.020 --> 00:51:28.020
  • THIS: I'M EXCITED TO JUST BE ON
  • 00:51:28.020 --> 00:51:30.240
  • THIS STAGE, IN THIS THEATER AT
  • 00:51:30.240 --> 00:51:33.040
  • TBN, WITH GLORIA GAYNOR.
  • 00:51:37.040 --> 00:51:40.040
  • IT'S A REAL BLESSING.
  • 00:51:40.040 --> 00:51:40.250
  • GOD BLESS YOU.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:41.150 --> 00:51:42.160
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
  • 00:51:42.160 --> 00:51:43.050
  • - CLIFTON: MMWAH.
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  • - GLORIA: BLESS YOU.
  • 00:51:44.020 --> 00:51:44.260
  • - CLIFTON: AND WE GET THE
  • 00:51:44.260 --> 00:51:45.150
  • BLESSING OF GETTING TO HEAR HER
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  • SING AGAIN.
  • 00:51:46.120 --> 00:51:48.280
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:49.010 --> 00:51:52.010
  • PLEASE WELCOME GLORIA GAYNOR
  • 00:51:52.010 --> 00:51:52.210
  • SINGING,
  • 00:51:52.210 --> 00:51:53.060
  • "SINGING OVER ME."
  • 00:51:53.060 --> 00:51:55.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:52:10.180 --> 00:52:13.180
  • - GLORIA: SOMETIMES, WE GET A
  • 00:52:13.210 --> 00:52:16.210
  • LITTLE BIT CONCERNED.
  • 00:52:17.100 --> 00:52:20.100
  • WE HAVE PROBLEMS.
  • 00:52:20.100 --> 00:52:22.240
  • WE WONDER IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO
  • 00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:24.180
  • KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
  • 00:52:24.180 --> 00:52:25.140
  • MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT DOWN
  • 00:52:27.180 --> 00:52:28.190
  • ABOUT IT, BUT GOD IS ALWAYS
  • 00:52:28.190 --> 00:52:30.050
  • SINGIN' OVER YOU.
  • 00:52:30.050 --> 00:52:31.130
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:52:31.130 --> 00:52:32.060
  • TELL ME THAT YOU FEEL A
  • 00:52:32.060 --> 00:52:33.110
  • TELL ME THAT YOU'RE ALL USED
  • 00:52:35.160 --> 00:52:36.090
  • UP
  • 00:52:36.090 --> 00:52:37.090
  • YOU'RE LOOKIN' FOR A LITTLE
  • 00:52:37.090 --> 00:52:38.270
  • SALVATION,
  • 00:52:38.270 --> 00:52:40.040
  • JUST A DROP IN AN EMPTY CUP
  • 00:52:40.040 --> 00:52:42.200
  • MM, I REMEMBER THAT SONG USED
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  • TO BE THE SOUNDTRACK
  • 00:52:46.200 --> 00:52:47.190
  • OF MY LIFE,
  • 00:52:47.190 --> 00:52:48.210
  • BUT GOD'S GIVEN ME A WHOLE NW
  • 00:52:48.210 --> 00:52:50.280
  • MELODY, TELLIN' ME IT'S GONNA
  • 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.040
  • BE ALL RIGHT
  • 00:52:52.040 --> 00:52:54.080
  • I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY
  • 00:52:54.080 --> 00:52:57.010
  • I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
  • 00:52:57.010 --> 00:52:59.290
  • WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT AL,
  • 00:53:00.140 --> 00:53:03.140
  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
  • 00:53:03.140 --> 00:53:06.130
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M FORGIVEN
  • 00:53:06.130 --> 00:53:08.210
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M REDEEMED
  • 00:53:08.210 --> 00:53:11.170
  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
  • 00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:13.280
  • ALL,
  • 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.150
  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME,
  • 00:53:15.150 --> 00:53:18.080
  • SINGIN' OVER ME, SINGIN' OVER
  • 00:53:18.200 --> 00:53:21.200
  • ME
  • 00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:24.270
  • OOH, HOO, OOH-OOH, OOH, HOO
  • 00:53:26.050 --> 00:53:29.050
  • I USED TO THINK THAT
  • 00:53:29.050 --> 00:53:30.190
  • EVERYTHING WAS HOPELESS,
  • 00:53:30.190 --> 00:53:31.270
  • USED TO THINK THAT I WAS
  • 00:53:31.270 --> 00:53:33.100
  • ON MY OWN,
  • 00:53:33.100 --> 00:53:34.290
  • TILL THE GOD OF ALL CREATION
  • 00:53:34.290 --> 00:53:37.160
  • MADE MY HEART HIS HOME,
  • 00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:40.060
  • AND NOW I SING
  • 00:53:40.060 --> 00:53:41.140
  • I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY
  • 00:53:41.140 --> 00:53:43.110
  • I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
  • 00:53:43.160 --> 00:53:46.160
  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
  • 00:53:46.160 --> 00:53:49.070
  • ALL,
  • 00:53:49.070 --> 00:53:50.210
  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
  • 00:53:50.210 --> 00:53:52.220
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M FORGIVEN
  • 00:53:52.220 --> 00:53:54.280
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M REDEEMED
  • 00:53:54.290 --> 00:53:57.290
  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
  • 00:53:57.290 --> 00:54:00.200
  • ALL,
  • 00:54:00.200 --> 00:54:01.090
  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
  • 00:54:01.090 --> 00:54:04.070
  • AIN'T NO SORROW,
  • 00:54:04.070 --> 00:54:05.230
  • AIN'T NO SIN
  • 00:54:05.230 --> 00:54:08.180
  • YOU CAN'T CONQUER
  • 00:54:08.180 --> 00:54:11.010
  • THERE'S NO BROKEN THAT HE
  • 00:54:11.010 --> 00:54:12.050
  • CAN'T MEND
  • 00:54:12.050 --> 00:54:14.120
  • I'M TELLIN' YOU, AIN'T NO
  • 00:54:14.120 --> 00:54:16.070
  • WORRY,
  • 00:54:16.070 --> 00:54:17.180
  • AIN'T NO SHAME
  • 00:54:17.180 --> 00:54:20.140
  • THERE'S NO CONDEMNATION IN HS
  • 00:54:20.230 --> 00:54:23.230
  • NAME
  • 00:54:23.230 --> 00:54:26.110
  • SO I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY,
  • 00:54:28.120 --> 00:54:31.120
  • AND I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
  • 00:54:32.110 --> 00:54:35.110
  • SO WON'T YOU SING WITH ME?
  • 00:54:36.080 --> 00:54:39.080
  • I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY
  • 00:54:39.080 --> 00:54:41.020
  • I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
  • 00:54:41.020 --> 00:54:44.000
  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
  • 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.140
  • ALL,
  • 00:54:46.140 --> 00:54:47.290
  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
  • 00:54:47.290 --> 00:54:50.170
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M FORGIVEN
  • 00:54:50.250 --> 00:54:53.250
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M REDEEMED
  • 00:54:53.250 --> 00:54:56.160
  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
  • 00:54:56.160 --> 00:54:57.210
  • ALL,
  • 00:54:57.210 --> 00:54:59.110
  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME,
  • 00:54:59.150 --> 00:55:02.170
  • SINGIN' OVER ME,
  • 00:55:02.170 --> 00:55:05.080
  • YEAH-YEAH
  • 00:55:05.080 --> 00:55:06.120
  • HE'S SINGIN' OVER ME, MY LOR,
  • 00:55:07.110 --> 00:55:10.110
  • OH, YEAH, HE'S SINGIN' OVER
  • 00:55:10.110 --> 00:55:12.090
  • ME,
  • 00:55:12.290 --> 00:55:15.290
  • SINGIN' OVER ME,
  • 00:55:15.290 --> 00:55:18.020
  • SINGIN' OVER ME,
  • 00:55:18.020 --> 00:55:20.110
  • YEAH, SINGIN' BLESSINGS OVER
  • 00:55:21.160 --> 00:55:24.160
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
  • 00:55:30.230 --> 00:55:31.120
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:55:31.120 --> 00:55:33.020
  • GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:55:34.170 --> 00:55:37.170
  • GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:55:37.170 --> 00:55:38.170