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Praise | January 29, 2018

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January 29, 2018
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Clifton Davis hosts Gloria Gaynor.

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Praise | January 29, 2018

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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER:
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  • TONIGHT FROM NEW YORK CITY, THE
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  • QUEEN OF DISCO, GLORIA GAYNOR.
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  • - GLORIA GAYNOR: "I WANNA KNOW
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  • WHO THIS JESUS IS.
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  • I DON'T WANNA HEAR IT FROM
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  • ANYBODY ELSE.
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  • IF YOU CAN TALK TO A PREACHER, A
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  • PRIEST, A RABBI, YOU COULD TALK
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  • TO ME.
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  • I'M HERE.
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  • I'M LISTENING.
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  • TALK."
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  • AND GUESS WHAT?
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  • - CLIFTON: HE TALKED.
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  • - GLORIA: HE TALKED.
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  • - ANNOUNCER: AND ACTOR AND
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  • MINISTER, CLIFTON DAVIS, NEXT ON
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  • - CLIFTON: HA-HA, HA-HA-HA!
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  • HELLO, HELLO, HELLO, HELLO.
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  • HA-HA-HA.
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  • HI, WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU.
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  • I LOVE A GREAT NEW YORK
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  • AUDIENCE.
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  • IT FEELS GOOD TO BE HERE.
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  • GOD BLESS YOU.
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  • ARE YOU READY FOR YOUR BLESSING?
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  • - CLIFTON: I PROMISE YOU, GOD
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  • NEVER FAILS.
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  • HE ALWAYS DELIVERS ON THE
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  • BLESSING.
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  • HAVE A SEAT.
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  • WE'VE GOT A WONDERFUL PROGRAM
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  • PLANNED FOR YOU TONIGHT.
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  • I WAS JUST AT THE THEATER WHERE
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  • WE DO DISNEY'S "ALADDIN," AND I
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  • WITNESS OVER THERE WHILE I'M
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  • ALSO WORKING AS THE SULTAN, AND
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  • ONE OF OUR STAGE MANAGERS RUNS
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  • IN THE NEW YORK CITY MARATHON
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  • AND RAN RECENTLY LAST YEAR IN
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  • THE MARATHON AND IS RUNNING IN
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  • MARATHONS ALL THE TIME,
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  • AND IT'S A LADY, AND SHE
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  • FINISHES THE MARATHON AND COMES
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  • TO WORK ON A TWO-SHOW DAY AND
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  • DOES TWO SHOWS AFTER RUNNING
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  • 26.2 MILES, AND I'M ALWAYS
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  • AMAZED.
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  • I SAID, "HOW CAN YOU EVEN STAND
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  • UP?"
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • MY GOODNESS!
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  • BUT SHE SOMEHOW ENDURES, AND THE
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  • SPIRIT OF GOD TELLS US THAT WE
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  • NEED TO ENDURE IN ORDER TO BE
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  • SAVED.
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  • IT SAID, "HE THAT ENDURETH TO
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  • THE END WILL BE SAVED."
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  • GOD IS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE
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  • TO SURVIVE.
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  • GOD IS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO
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  • CAN ENDURE.
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  • CAN YOU ENDURE?
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  • - AUDIENCE: YEAH!
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  • - CLIFTON: I KNOW I'M
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  • DETERMINED.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • I'M DETERMINED TO ENDURE.
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  • IN FACT, I WILL SURVIVE.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • ALL RIGHT, I SET YOU UP.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • FIRST, I WAS AFRAID.
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  • I WAS PETRIFIED,
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  • KEPT THINKIN' I COULD NEVER
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  • LIVE WITHOUT YOU BY MY SIDE
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  • - FEMALE NARRATOR: GLORIA
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  • GAYNOR'S LEGENDARY CAREER SPANS
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  • THE PAST 40 YEARS, WITH NO END
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  • IN SIGHT.
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  • THE GRAMMY AWARD WINNER HAS
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  • REACHED GLOBAL STARDOM WITH MANY
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  • NUMBER ONE HITS AND HAS BEEN
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  • DUBBED "THE QUEEN OF DISCO."
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  • GLORIA CONTINUES TO PERFORM
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  • AROUND THE WORLD AND HELPS
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  • SPREAD INSPIRATION TO THOSE WHO
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  • NEED IT.
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  • WITH HER HIT SONG, "I WILL
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  • SURVIVE," GLORIA GAYNOR HAS USED
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  • IT AS A MANTRA, NOT ONLY FOR
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  • HER, BUT FOR MILLIONS OF OTHER
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  • PEOPLE.
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  • IT BIRTHED THE CHARITABLE
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  • ORGANIZATION SHE USES TO SUPPORT
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  • SURVIVORS OF ALL KINDS.
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  • GLORIA IS ALSO AN AUTHOR, AND
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  • HER SECOND BOOK, "WE WILL
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  • SURVIVE: TRUE STORIES OF
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  • ENCOURAGEMENT, INSPIRATION, AND
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  • THE POWER OF SONG," SHARES
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  • REMARKABLE STORIES OF
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  • INDIVIDUALS TRIUMPHING OVER
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  • ILLNESS, SUFFERING, AND HOW IT
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  • HELPED PIECE THEIR LIVES BACK
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  • TOGETHER.
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  • TODAY ON "PRAISE," GLORIA WILL
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  • SHARE HER LIFE STORY AND FAITH
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  • WHILE TALKING ABOUT THE
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  • IMPORTANCE OF SURVIVING WITH THE
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  • HELP OF GOD.
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  • PLEASE WELCOME GLORIA GAYNOR.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - GLORIA: YEAH, KEEP YOUR HANDS
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  • TOGETHER RIGHT THERE.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • I HEAR 'EM TALKIN'
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  • ABOUT THE SAME OLE THINGS,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT MONEY, HONEY,
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  • STATUS, POWER, AND FAME
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  • BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ABOT
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  • AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT
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  • YET,
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  • THEN YOUR WHOLE WORLD 'BOUT O
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT LOVE,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT FREEDOM,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE YOU CAN
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  • DEPEND ON WHEN YOU NEED HIM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MERCY,
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  • GRACE, AND FORGIVENESS,
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • MM, GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY, YOU
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  • NEED TO HEAR THIS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • BUT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • BUT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • STOP, YOU CAN'T DO IT ALONE
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  • AND IF YOU THINK THAT YOUR
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  • LIFE IS HOPELESS,
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  • YOU'RE PLAIN, DEAD WRONG,
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  • 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMEBODY
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  • WHO CAME TO SAVE YOUR LIFE,
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  • AND WITHOUT HIS HAND LEADING
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  • EVERY STEP OF THE WAY,
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  • YOU WON'T SURVIVE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT LOVE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT FREEDOM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE YOU
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  • CAN DEPEND ON WHEN YOU NEED HIM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MERCY,
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  • GRACE, AND FORGIVENESS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • MM, GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY,
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  • YOU NEED TO HEAR THIS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT, BUT I'M
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT,
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  • BUT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • JESUS
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  • NOW, LET ME HEAR YA SAY,
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  • J-E-S-U-S, UH-HUH,
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  • J-E-S-U-S,
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  • HEY-HEY
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  • AH, YEAH, J-E-S-U-S,
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  • OOH-HOO,
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  • UH-HUH, J-E-S-U-S,
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  • HEY-HEY,
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  • YEAH, YEAH
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  • HEY, I'M TALKIN' ABOUT LOVE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT FREEDOM
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE YOU CAN
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  • DEPEND ON WHEN YOU NEED HIM
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MERCY,
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  • GRACE, AND FORGIVENESS
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT, MM, GOOD GOD
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  • ALMIGHTY, YOU NEED TO HEAR THIS
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  • I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS, JESS
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  • JESUS, JESUS, TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • MY, MY JESUS
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  • JESUS, I'M TALKIN' ABOUT JESS
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT MY JESUS
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT MY JESUS, MY
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  • JESUS.
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  • JESUS, YEAH, YEAH
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT THE ONE WHO GOT
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  • ME
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  • J-E-S-U-S, MADE ME FREE
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT JESUS
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  • SAVED MY LIFE, SET ME FREE
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  • OH, YEAH, TALKIN' ABOUT MY
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  • JESUS
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  • MY JESUS, MY JESUS
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
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  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - CLIFTON: WHAT A WONDERFUL,
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  • WONDERFUL RENDITION, MY
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  • GOODNESS.
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  • GLORIA, YOU'RE JUST AMAZING, AND
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  • YOU HOLD YOUR OWN AFTER ALL
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  • THESE YEARS.
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  • I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR MANY YEARS.
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  • IT'S REALLY A BLESSING.
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  • YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE SAY
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  • IN CHRISTIANITY THAT WE KNOW THE
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  • LORD, AND THAT MAY NOT BE A
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  • PHRASE THAT EVERYBODY
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  • UNDERSTANDS, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU
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  • WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
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  • MEAN WHEN WE SAY WE'VE COME TO
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  • KNOW THE LORD, LET ME SHARE WITH
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  • YOU THAT BY FAITH, BY TRUSTING
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  • IN HIS WORD, AND BY BELIEVING
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  • THAT HE IS ACTIVE IN OUR LIVES,
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  • WE GET TO KNOW HIM, AND IT
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  • BECOMES A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.
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  • - GLORIA: OH, AND WHAT AN
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  • AWESOME PRIVILEGE THAT IS.
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  • - CLIFTON: YES, AND HOW LONG
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  • HAVE YOU KNOWN THE LORD?
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  • - GLORIA: WELL, I'VE KNOWN THE
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  • LORD FOR, PHOOF, WELL, LET ME
  • 00:08:38.160 --> 00:08:40.050
  • SINCE 1982.
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  • I CAME TO A POINT IN MY LIFE
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  • WHERE I FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, GOD
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  • HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO ME, AND I
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  • THINK I NEED TO GIVE HIM SOME
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  • AS IF IT'S NOT ALL HIS.
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  • - CLIFTON: YEAH.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - GLORIA: SO I WAS GONNA
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  • GIVE HIM SOME TIME.
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  • SO I DECIDED TO GO TO CHURCH,
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  • AND MY MOTHER WAS BROUGHT UP IN
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  • CHURCH.
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  • SHE WAS INUNDATED WITH CHURCH,
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  • AND SHE MADE A SOLID VOW THAT,
  • 00:09:04.220 --> 00:09:06.170
  • WHEN SHE HAD CHILDREN, SHE
  • 00:09:06.170 --> 00:09:07.150
  • WOULDN'T MAKE THEM GO TO CHURCH,
  • 00:09:07.150 --> 00:09:09.070
  • SO SHE DIDN'T MAKE US GO TO
  • 00:09:09.070 --> 00:09:09.270
  • CHURCH, AND LAZY CHILDREN, WE
  • 00:09:09.270 --> 00:09:10.180
  • DIDN'T GO.
  • 00:09:10.180 --> 00:09:11.240
  • BUT I DECIDED, AT THIS POINT IN
  • 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.000
  • MY LIFE, I WAS GONNA GO TO
  • 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:14.170
  • CHURCH, AND SO I WENT TO THE
  • 00:09:16.060 --> 00:09:19.060
  • CHURCH THAT MY MOTHER AND MY
  • 00:09:19.060 --> 00:09:20.280
  • GRANDMOTHER HAD GONE TO.
  • 00:09:20.280 --> 00:09:21.200
  • IT WAS STILL THERE, AND SO THE
  • 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:22.230
  • DAY THAT I WENT, SOMEBODY WAS
  • 00:09:22.230 --> 00:09:25.080
  • BEING ACCEPTED AS A MEMBER OF
  • 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:29.080
  • THAT CHURCH.
  • 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:31.110
  • THEY WERE FROM ANOTHER CHURCH,
  • 00:09:31.110 --> 00:09:32.230
  • AND THEY HAD MOVED INTO THE
  • 00:09:32.230 --> 00:09:34.200
  • CITY, AND THEY WANTED TO BE A
  • 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:35.280
  • MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH, AND THEY
  • 00:09:36.020 --> 00:09:39.020
  • SAID THEM-- WELL, THEY BROUGHT
  • 00:09:39.020 --> 00:09:40.110
  • THEM UP FRONT AND ASKED THEM,
  • 00:09:40.110 --> 00:09:42.040
  • "DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE DEATH,
  • 00:09:42.040 --> 00:09:42.260
  • BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION OF
  • 00:09:42.260 --> 00:09:43.160
  • CHRIST?"
  • 00:09:43.160 --> 00:09:44.220
  • AND THEY SAID, "YES," AND THEN A
  • 00:09:44.220 --> 00:09:47.110
  • FEW MORE THINGS THEY SAID, AND
  • 00:09:47.110 --> 00:09:48.290
  • THEN THEY GAVE THEM WHAT THEY
  • 00:09:48.290 --> 00:09:50.100
  • CALLED "THE RIGHT HAND OF
  • 00:09:50.100 --> 00:09:50.290
  • FELLOWSHIP," AND I WENT HOME
  • 00:09:50.290 --> 00:09:52.090
  • THINKING, "OH, I CAN'T SAY THAT
  • 00:09:52.090 --> 00:09:55.080
  • BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
  • 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:56.070
  • MEANS."
  • 00:09:56.070 --> 00:09:58.220
  • AND I DO HAVE TOO MUCH
  • 00:09:58.220 --> 00:09:59.200
  • RESPECT FOR GOD TO STAND UP IN
  • 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.160
  • CHURCH AND LIE.
  • 00:10:02.160 --> 00:10:04.150
  • BUT I WENT HOME AND I SAT DOWN
  • 00:10:04.150 --> 00:10:06.100
  • AT MY DINING ROOM TABLE, AND I
  • 00:10:06.170 --> 00:10:09.170
  • PULLED OUT A BIBLE THAT SOMEONE
  • 00:10:09.170 --> 00:10:11.120
  • HAD GIVEN ME SOME YEARS BEFORE,
  • 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:12.100
  • AND-- [BLOWING] -- BLEW THE DUST
  • 00:10:12.100 --> 00:10:13.020
  • OFF IT 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER READ
  • 00:10:13.020 --> 00:10:13.230
  • IT.
  • 00:10:13.230 --> 00:10:15.080
  • AND I SAID, "OKAY, LORD,
  • 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.050
  • SHOWDOWN."
  • 00:10:17.110 --> 00:10:20.110
  • YOU KNOW, I LOOK BACK
  • 00:10:20.110 --> 00:10:21.100
  • ON THAT AND REALIZE I'M SASSIN'
  • 00:10:21.100 --> 00:10:22.020
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:10:22.020 --> 00:10:22.270
  • SO I SAID, "SHOWDOWN.
  • 00:10:22.270 --> 00:10:24.270
  • I WANNA KNOW WHO THIS JESUS IS.
  • 00:10:24.270 --> 00:10:27.180
  • WHO IS JESUS?
  • 00:10:27.180 --> 00:10:29.180
  • AND I DON'T WANNA HEAR THIS FROM
  • 00:10:30.020 --> 00:10:33.020
  • THE LADY UPSTAIRS AND THE MAN
  • 00:10:33.020 --> 00:10:33.230
  • DOWN THE HALL.
  • 00:10:33.230 --> 00:10:34.180
  • I DON'T WANNA HEAR IT FROM
  • 00:10:34.180 --> 00:10:35.070
  • ANYBODY ELSE.
  • 00:10:35.070 --> 00:10:36.080
  • IF YOU CAN TALK TO A PREACHER, A
  • 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:37.160
  • PRIEST, A RABBI, YOU COULD TALK
  • 00:10:37.160 --> 00:10:38.220
  • TO ME.
  • 00:10:38.220 --> 00:10:39.200
  • I'M HERE.
  • 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:40.060
  • I'M LISTENING.
  • 00:10:40.060 --> 00:10:41.000
  • TALK."
  • 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:41.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:41.280 --> 00:10:43.200
  • - CLIFTON: I LOVE IT!
  • 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:44.070
  • - GLORIA: AND GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:10:44.070 --> 00:10:45.030
  • - CLIFTON: HE TALKED.
  • 00:10:45.030 --> 00:10:45.200
  • - GLORIA: HE TALKED.
  • 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.000
  • HE TALKED.
  • 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:48.170
  • HE TOLD ME TO OPEN THAT BIBLE TO
  • 00:10:48.170 --> 00:10:49.090
  • THE CENTER.
  • 00:10:49.090 --> 00:10:50.120
  • I'VE NEVER OPENED IT.
  • 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.250
  • I OPENED IT IN THE CENTER, AND
  • 00:10:52.250 --> 00:10:53.270
  • IN THE CENTER OF THE BIBLE WAS
  • 00:10:55.040 --> 00:10:58.040
  • WHAT WAS CALLED "THE HARMONIES
  • 00:10:58.040 --> 00:10:58.250
  • OF THE GOSPELS."
  • 00:10:58.250 --> 00:11:00.210
  • ON ONE SIDE OF THE PAGE,
  • 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.000
  • A LIST OF PROPHECIES OF THE
  • 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:05.090
  • FORTHCOMING MESSIAH, AND THEN
  • 00:11:05.090 --> 00:11:06.250
  • ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
  • 00:11:06.250 --> 00:11:08.120
  • PAGE, A LIST OF SCRIPTURES
  • 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:10.060
  • WHEREIN CHRIST HAD FULFILLED
  • 00:11:10.060 --> 00:11:11.210
  • THOSE PROPHECIES, AND ONE OF
  • 00:11:11.210 --> 00:11:13.290
  • THEM WAS ISAIAH 7:14,
  • 00:11:13.290 --> 00:11:15.160
  • "FOR BEHOLD, A VIRGIN SHALL
  • 00:11:15.160 --> 00:11:17.150
  • CONCEIVE,
  • 00:11:17.150 --> 00:11:18.070
  • AND BEAR A SON, AND SHALL CALL
  • 00:11:18.070 --> 00:11:19.180
  • AND THAT BIBLE TOLD ME THAT
  • 00:11:22.070 --> 00:11:24.190
  • "IMMANUEL" MEANT "GOD WITH US."
  • 00:11:24.190 --> 00:11:25.290
  • WELL, WHEN I READ THOSE WORDS,
  • 00:11:25.290 --> 00:11:28.040
  • "GOD WITH US," IT SHOOK ME TO MY
  • 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:28.260
  • CORE.
  • 00:11:28.260 --> 00:11:30.230
  • I WAS LIKE, "OH, MY GOD, OH, MY
  • 00:11:30.230 --> 00:11:32.070
  • AND I SAT THERE WITH THAT BIBLE
  • 00:11:35.270 --> 00:11:38.070
  • FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF.
  • 00:11:38.070 --> 00:11:40.120
  • I, REALIZING IN RETROSPECT, IT
  • 00:11:40.250 --> 00:11:43.250
  • WAS ME AND THE HOLY SPIRIT,
  • 00:11:43.250 --> 00:11:45.120
  • TAKING ME THROUGH THAT BIBLE,
  • 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.160
  • LESSONS AND THE HARMONIES AND
  • 00:11:47.270 --> 00:11:50.270
  • THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE FAITH,
  • 00:11:50.270 --> 00:11:53.050
  • AND THAT'S WHEN AND HOW I CAME
  • 00:11:53.050 --> 00:11:55.030
  • TO KNOW THE LORD, ALL BY MYSELF,
  • 00:11:55.030 --> 00:11:56.110
  • JUST ME AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:11:56.110 --> 00:11:58.120
  • I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT AN
  • 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:00.040
  • AWESOME PRIVILEGE THAT WAS, AND
  • 00:12:00.140 --> 00:12:03.140
  • SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ME AND
  • 00:12:03.140 --> 00:12:06.030
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:12:06.030 --> 00:12:08.210
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:12:08.210 --> 00:12:09.240
  • THE WORLD DIDN'T GIVE IT,
  • 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:10.180
  • AND THE WORLD CAN'T TAKE
  • 00:12:10.180 --> 00:12:11.060
  • IT AWAY.
  • 00:12:11.060 --> 00:12:11.270
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:13.180 --> 00:12:16.180
  • YOUR MOTHER WAS IN THE CHURCH,
  • 00:12:16.180 --> 00:12:18.200
  • BUT AS A CHILD, YOU DIDN'T GO TO
  • 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.210
  • CHURCH, SO IT WAS THAT
  • 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:23.000
  • EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:24.280
  • YOU HAD TO COME THROUGH.
  • 00:12:24.280 --> 00:12:27.280
  • YOUR CAREER HAD ALREADY STARTED.
  • 00:12:27.280 --> 00:12:29.120
  • YOU HAD BECOME FAMOUS.
  • 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:30.100
  • YOU HAD GONE OUT INTO THE WORLD,
  • 00:12:30.100 --> 00:12:32.190
  • AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THEN THAT
  • 00:12:32.190 --> 00:12:35.000
  • SOMETHING TOUCHED YOU TO SAY,
  • 00:12:35.250 --> 00:12:38.250
  • "TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT GOD HAS IN
  • 00:12:38.250 --> 00:12:41.040
  • STORE FOR YOU."
  • 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:43.040
  • - GLORIA: YEAH.
  • 00:12:43.040 --> 00:12:45.090
  • - CLIFTON: DID YOU FEEL LOVED
  • 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:46.030
  • AS A CHILD?
  • 00:12:46.030 --> 00:12:47.180
  • DID YOU FEEL EMBRACED BY YOUR
  • 00:12:47.180 --> 00:12:49.050
  • PARENTS AND--
  • 00:12:49.050 --> 00:12:50.130
  • - GLORIA: BY MY MOTHER.
  • 00:12:50.130 --> 00:12:51.110
  • MY MOTHER WAS A SINGLE PARENT,
  • 00:12:51.110 --> 00:12:53.010
  • SIX CHILDREN-- SEVEN CHILDREN--
  • 00:12:53.010 --> 00:12:55.220
  • SIX SIBLINGS, IN A ONE-BEDROOM
  • 00:12:55.220 --> 00:12:58.100
  • APARTMENT.
  • 00:12:58.100 --> 00:12:59.260
  • - CLIFTON: MM.
  • 00:12:59.260 --> 00:13:01.150
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE
  • 00:13:01.150 --> 00:13:02.070
  • MUCH.
  • 00:13:02.070 --> 00:13:03.220
  • I REMEMBER MY MOTHER SENDIN' ME
  • 00:13:03.220 --> 00:13:04.140
  • TO THE STORE TO BUY DINNER WITH
  • 00:13:04.140 --> 00:13:05.100
  • 25 CENTS.
  • 00:13:05.190 --> 00:13:08.190
  • - CLIFTON: LORD, HAVE MERCY.
  • 00:13:08.190 --> 00:13:09.260
  • - GLORIA: TEN CENTS, FIFTEEN
  • 00:13:09.260 --> 00:13:10.230
  • CENTS WORTH OF BACON SKINS AND
  • 00:13:10.230 --> 00:13:11.220
  • 10 CENTS WORTH OF BEANS.
  • 00:13:11.220 --> 00:13:13.180
  • BUT SHE WORKED THOSE SPICES, AND
  • 00:13:13.180 --> 00:13:16.150
  • WE HAD COMPANY FOR DINNER.
  • 00:13:16.150 --> 00:13:18.170
  • MY MOTHER WAS AN AWESOME COOK,
  • 00:13:18.170 --> 00:13:19.290
  • AND PEOPLE WOULD COME AND LEAVE
  • 00:13:19.290 --> 00:13:21.200
  • THEIR CHOPS AND THEIR STEAKS AND
  • 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.210
  • WHATEVER, AND COME AND EAT BEANS
  • 00:13:23.210 --> 00:13:26.190
  • WITH US AND BREAD, FLAT BREAD,
  • 00:13:26.190 --> 00:13:29.020
  • WHERE SHE MADE IT IN AN ANIMAL
  • 00:13:29.020 --> 00:13:30.120
  • SHAPE, OH, YEAH.
  • 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:31.200
  • - CLIFTON: I WAS WORKIN' ON
  • 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.000
  • "MADAM SECRETARY" THE OTHER DAY,
  • 00:13:33.210 --> 00:13:36.210
  • AND THEY WERE OFFERING ME SOME
  • 00:13:36.210 --> 00:13:39.010
  • FOOD FROM WHAT THEY CALL CRAFTY
  • 00:13:39.010 --> 00:13:39.280
  • CRAFT SERVICES.
  • 00:13:39.280 --> 00:13:41.270
  • I SAID, "WELL, WHAT DO THEY
  • 00:13:41.270 --> 00:13:43.020
  • GOT?"
  • 00:13:43.020 --> 00:13:43.210
  • THEY SAID, "THEY'VE GOT SOME
  • 00:13:43.210 --> 00:13:46.010
  • GNOCCI, AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE
  • 00:13:46.010 --> 00:13:49.000
  • BROCCOLI RAVIOLI."
  • 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:49.220
  • I SAID, "NO,
  • 00:13:49.220 --> 00:13:50.070
  • THAT'S OKAY.
  • 00:13:50.070 --> 00:13:51.200
  • I'M A GO HOME AND HAVE SOME
  • 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:52.110
  • BEANS AND FRANKS."
  • 00:13:52.110 --> 00:13:52.280
  • - GLORIA: I HEAR THAT.
  • 00:13:52.280 --> 00:13:54.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:56.210
  • OH, YES.
  • 00:13:56.210 --> 00:13:57.200
  • - CLIFTON: I NEEDED A LITTLE
  • 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:58.110
  • COMFORT FOOD, YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:13:58.110 --> 00:13:59.130
  • STUFF THAT I REMEMBER BACK IN
  • 00:13:59.130 --> 00:14:01.120
  • THE DAY, AND IT WASN'T ALWAYS
  • 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:02.250
  • FRANKS, AND SOMETIMES THERE
  • 00:14:02.250 --> 00:14:04.060
  • WASN'T ALWAYS BEANS.
  • 00:14:04.060 --> 00:14:06.270
  • - GLORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:14:06.270 --> 00:14:07.140
  • - CLIFTON: BUT GOD HAS BEEN
  • 00:14:07.140 --> 00:14:08.060
  • GOOD, AND HE BROUGHT US ALL
  • 00:14:08.060 --> 00:14:09.020
  • THROUGH ON THAT JOURNEY.
  • 00:14:09.020 --> 00:14:09.220
  • HOW 'BOUT THAT?
  • 00:14:09.220 --> 00:14:10.150
  • - GLORIA: YES, YES.
  • 00:14:10.150 --> 00:14:12.040
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:15.080
  • - CLIFTON: SO YOU DIDN'T
  • 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:16.190
  • GO TO CHURCH AS A CHILD,
  • 00:14:16.190 --> 00:14:17.280
  • BUT HOW DID THE DECISION TO
  • 00:14:17.290 --> 00:14:20.290
  • BECOME A CHRISTIAN AND TO COME
  • 00:14:20.290 --> 00:14:22.180
  • TO KNOW GOD AFFECT YOUR CAREER?
  • 00:14:22.180 --> 00:14:25.110
  • BECAUSE YOU WERE ALREADY A
  • 00:14:25.110 --> 00:14:26.220
  • DISCO DIVA.
  • 00:14:26.220 --> 00:14:28.280
  • - GLORIA: I WAS ALREADY A
  • 00:14:28.280 --> 00:14:29.170
  • DISCO DIVA.
  • 00:14:29.170 --> 00:14:30.010
  • - CLIFTON: AS I REMEMBER YOU
  • 00:14:30.010 --> 00:14:30.290
  • COMING BACKSTAGE ON MY FIRST
  • 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:34.120
  • TELEVISION SHOW, "THAT'S MY
  • 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.140
  • MAMA," AND YOU HAD JUST
  • 00:14:36.140 --> 00:14:38.260
  • RECORDED--
  • 00:14:38.260 --> 00:14:40.020
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:40.160 --> 00:14:43.160
  • SOME OF YOU MAY OR
  • 00:14:43.160 --> 00:14:44.130
  • MAY NOT KNOW THAT I WROTE
  • 00:14:44.130 --> 00:14:45.280
  • A SONG CALLED "NEVER CAN
  • 00:14:45.280 --> 00:14:47.140
  • SAY GOODBYE," AND PROBABLY--
  • 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.120
  • MICHAEL JACKSON DID A GREAT JOB,
  • 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:52.130
  • BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, GLORIA
  • 00:14:52.130 --> 00:14:54.120
  • GAYNOR WORE THAT SONG OUT AND
  • 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.000
  • SOLD A BUNCH OF 'EM, AND SHE
  • 00:14:57.030 --> 00:15:00.050
  • CAME BACKSTAGE, JUST AFTER SHE
  • 00:15:00.050 --> 00:15:02.240
  • RECORDED IT, ONTO THE SET AT
  • 00:15:02.290 --> 00:15:05.290
  • ABC TELEVISION, AND WE TOOK SOME
  • 00:15:05.290 --> 00:15:08.130
  • PHOTOS, AND IT WAS GREAT TO MEET
  • 00:15:08.130 --> 00:15:11.070
  • HER AT THAT TIME, AND THE
  • 00:15:11.070 --> 00:15:13.040
  • TRANSITION FOR HER FROM A NEWBIE
  • 00:15:14.170 --> 00:15:17.170
  • TO A STAR WAS LIKE "WHOOSH."
  • 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:20.250
  • SUDDENLY IT WAS JUST ALL THERE
  • 00:15:20.250 --> 00:15:22.100
  • FOR YOU.
  • 00:15:22.100 --> 00:15:23.250
  • SO DID BECOMING A CHRISTIAN IN
  • 00:15:25.010 --> 00:15:28.010
  • 1982 HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THAT
  • 00:15:28.010 --> 00:15:29.030
  • JOURNEY?
  • 00:15:29.030 --> 00:15:30.290
  • - GLORIA: YES, IT DID,
  • 00:15:30.290 --> 00:15:32.180
  • ESPECIALLY SINCE MY HUSBAND WAS
  • 00:15:32.180 --> 00:15:34.170
  • A NOMINAL CATHOLIC AND WASN'T
  • 00:15:34.170 --> 00:15:36.250
  • PRACTICING CATHOLICISM, WASN'T
  • 00:15:39.280 --> 00:15:42.280
  • PRACTICING HIS RELIGION AT ALL
  • 00:15:42.280 --> 00:15:44.070
  • AND WAS LIVING A TOTALLY SECULAR
  • 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:47.160
  • LIFE AND LOVED IT, WANTED IT
  • 00:15:47.160 --> 00:15:49.010
  • THAT WAY, AND WHEN I CAME TO HIM
  • 00:15:49.010 --> 00:15:51.200
  • AND TOLD HIM THAT I DIDN'T WANNA
  • 00:15:51.280 --> 00:15:54.280
  • RECORD DISCO MUSIC ANYMORE, HE
  • 00:15:54.280 --> 00:15:56.050
  • WAS LIKE, "UH, REALLY?"
  • 00:15:56.050 --> 00:15:58.150
  • "NO, THAT' AIN'T GONNA WORK."
  • 00:15:58.150 --> 00:15:59.230
  • AND SO WE WENT THROUGH SOME
  • 00:15:59.230 --> 00:16:01.060
  • CHANGES, AND SO IT WAS REALLY,
  • 00:16:01.070 --> 00:16:04.070
  • REALLY DIFFICULT.
  • 00:16:04.070 --> 00:16:06.030
  • IT WAS A REAL TUG-OF-WAR BETWEEN
  • 00:16:06.070 --> 00:16:09.070
  • HIM AND ME, WHAT I WAS GOING TO
  • 00:16:09.070 --> 00:16:10.160
  • DO.
  • 00:16:10.160 --> 00:16:12.100
  • - CLIFTON: WAS HE INVOLVED IN
  • 00:16:12.100 --> 00:16:13.020
  • YOUR CAREER?
  • 00:16:13.020 --> 00:16:14.080
  • - GLORIA: HE WAS MY MANAGER.
  • 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:15.080
  • - CLIFTON: OH, HE WAS YOUR
  • 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:15.280
  • MANAGER.
  • 00:16:15.280 --> 00:16:16.120
  • - GLORIA: HE WAS MY MANAGER,
  • 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:17.030
  • YES.
  • 00:16:17.030 --> 00:16:17.160
  • - CLIFTON: OKAY.
  • 00:16:17.160 --> 00:16:18.040
  • - GLORIA: YES, HE WAS MY
  • 00:16:18.040 --> 00:16:18.230
  • MANAGER SO--
  • 00:16:18.230 --> 00:16:19.160
  • - CLIFTON: AND YOUR HUSBAND.
  • 00:16:19.160 --> 00:16:20.110
  • - GLORIA: AND MY HUSBAND, SO HE
  • 00:16:20.110 --> 00:16:22.160
  • HAD A LOT OF SAY-SO IN WHATEVER
  • 00:16:22.160 --> 00:16:24.120
  • I DID, OF COURSE, AND SO THAT
  • 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.130
  • WAS A REAL TUG-OF-WAR BETWEEN
  • 00:16:26.130 --> 00:16:27.090
  • THE TWO OF US.
  • 00:16:27.090 --> 00:16:29.100
  • - CLIFTON: HOW LONG DID YOU
  • 00:16:29.100 --> 00:16:32.020
  • HAVE TO FIGHT THAT BATTLE BEFORE
  • 00:16:32.020 --> 00:16:33.270
  • YOU WERE ABLE TO BREAK OUT?
  • 00:16:34.010 --> 00:16:37.010
  • - GLORIA: WELL, WHAT HAPPENED
  • 00:16:37.010 --> 00:16:39.230
  • WAS I FOUGHT THE BATTLE FOR--
  • 00:16:39.230 --> 00:16:40.210
  • LET ME SEE.
  • 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.240
  • IT WAS IN 1982 THAT I GOT SAVED.
  • 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:45.020
  • IT WAS 1989 THAT MY HUSBAND AND
  • 00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:48.040
  • I FIRST SEPARATED, AND I SPENT A
  • 00:16:49.050 --> 00:16:52.050
  • LITTLE OVER A YEAR, ABOUT A YEAR
  • 00:16:52.050 --> 00:16:53.250
  • AND 2 MONTHS WITH VIRTUALLY
  • 00:16:53.250 --> 00:16:55.220
  • NOTHING.
  • 00:16:56.140 --> 00:16:59.140
  • BECAUSE HE WAS MY MANAGER, I HAD
  • 00:16:59.140 --> 00:17:00.150
  • NO WORK.
  • 00:17:00.150 --> 00:17:01.180
  • I DID NOT KNOW HOW TO FIND-- TO
  • 00:17:01.180 --> 00:17:03.050
  • GET WORK.
  • 00:17:03.050 --> 00:17:04.100
  • I WENT TO DIFFERENT MANAGERS,
  • 00:17:04.100 --> 00:17:07.070
  • AND THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED.
  • 00:17:07.120 --> 00:17:10.120
  • THE RECORD COMPANY WAS DOING
  • 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:11.190
  • ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH ME OR
  • 00:17:11.190 --> 00:17:13.030
  • FOR ME, AND IT WAS REALLY,
  • 00:17:13.030 --> 00:17:15.000
  • REALLY HARD, BUT WITH NO WORK,
  • 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.240
  • NO INCOME, LITERALLY DID NOT
  • 00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:21.080
  • KNOW WHERE MY NEXT MEAL WAS
  • 00:17:21.080 --> 00:17:22.220
  • COMING FROM, BUT "FROM THE
  • 00:17:22.220 --> 00:17:25.210
  • HILLS, WHENCE COMETH MY HELP."
  • 00:17:26.210 --> 00:17:29.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:29.210 --> 00:17:31.120
  • THAT WAS THE WORST AND
  • 00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:33.080
  • THE BEST YEAR OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:17:33.150 --> 00:17:36.150
  • THE WORST AND THE BEST YEAR OF
  • 00:17:36.150 --> 00:17:37.190
  • MY LIFE.
  • 00:17:37.190 --> 00:17:38.220
  • - CLIFTON: AND WHY THE BEST?
  • 00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:40.140
  • 'CAUSE WE COULD HEAR HOW IT WAS
  • 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:41.060
  • THE WORST.
  • 00:17:41.060 --> 00:17:42.000
  • - GLORIA: RIGHT, THE BEST
  • 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.260
  • BECAUSE THE LORD WAS THERE EVERY
  • 00:17:44.260 --> 00:17:45.180
  • STEP OF THE WAY.
  • 00:17:45.180 --> 00:17:47.030
  • EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, HE WAS
  • 00:17:47.030 --> 00:17:47.290
  • WITH ME.
  • 00:17:47.290 --> 00:17:49.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:51.120 --> 00:17:54.120
  • I'LL NEVER FORGET I WENT
  • 00:17:54.120 --> 00:17:55.140
  • TO SCRAPE SOME MONEY TOGETHER
  • 00:17:55.140 --> 00:17:56.180
  • TO GO AND VISIT A FRIEND
  • 00:17:56.180 --> 00:17:57.270
  • WHO WAS VISITING FROM ENGLAND,
  • 00:17:57.270 --> 00:17:58.180
  • COME TO NEW YORK FROM ENGLAND,
  • 00:17:58.180 --> 00:17:59.220
  • AND I WENT OVER TO SEE HIM.
  • 00:17:59.220 --> 00:18:00.230
  • I JUST HAD BUS FARE THERE AND
  • 00:18:00.230 --> 00:18:01.140
  • BUS FARE BACK, AND ON THE WAY
  • 00:18:01.140 --> 00:18:03.200
  • BACK, I ASKED HIM, I SAID,
  • 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.200
  • "MALCOLM, I HATE TO ASK YOU
  • 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.140
  • THIS, BUT CAN YOU LOAN ME, YOU
  • 00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:10.010
  • KNOW, A FEW DOLLARS?"
  • 00:18:10.010 --> 00:18:12.000
  • AND HE PEELED $300 OFF A ROLL HE
  • 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.110
  • HAD AND GAVE IT TO ME, AND I
  • 00:18:13.110 --> 00:18:14.140
  • SAID, "THANK YOU.
  • 00:18:14.140 --> 00:18:16.160
  • I DON'T KNOW WHEN I'LL BE ABLE
  • 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:17.080
  • TO PAY YOU BACK."
  • 00:18:17.080 --> 00:18:18.040
  • HE SAID, "PAY ME BACK WHEN
  • 00:18:18.040 --> 00:18:18.230
  • YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN."
  • 00:18:18.230 --> 00:18:19.240
  • I WENT HOME AND WAS
  • 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.250
  • SITTING DOWN.
  • 00:18:21.250 --> 00:18:22.290
  • I HAD MADE DINNER FOR-- I WAS
  • 00:18:22.290 --> 00:18:23.280
  • STAYING WITH MY NIECE, AND I HAD
  • 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:25.290
  • AND SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA GO
  • 00:18:28.080 --> 00:18:29.090
  • DOWN AND PAY THE RENT.
  • 00:18:29.090 --> 00:18:29.290
  • THE RENT WAS $300.
  • 00:18:29.290 --> 00:18:31.240
  • SHE WENT DOWN, AND SHE PAID THE
  • 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:32.160
  • RENT.
  • 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:33.110
  • SHE CAME BACK CRYING BECAUSE,
  • 00:18:33.110 --> 00:18:35.030
  • LONG STORY SHORT, HER
  • 00:18:35.030 --> 00:18:36.140
  • SUPERINTENDENT HAD TAKEN THE
  • 00:18:36.140 --> 00:18:38.160
  • MONEY FROM HER IN LIEU OF A DEBT
  • 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.020
  • AND SO THE RENT WASN'T PAID.
  • 00:18:43.220 --> 00:18:44.240
  • SO I SAID, "NO, DON'T WORRY
  • 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:45.290
  • ABOUT IT."
  • 00:18:48.220 --> 00:18:51.220
  • I GAVE HER THE $300 THAT I HAD.
  • 00:18:51.220 --> 00:18:52.140
  • SHE SAID, "WELL, WHAT ARE YOU
  • 00:18:52.140 --> 00:18:53.050
  • GONNA DO?
  • 00:18:53.050 --> 00:18:54.040
  • THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE."
  • 00:18:54.040 --> 00:18:54.210
  • I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:55.100
  • THE LORD PROVIDED THAT.
  • 00:18:55.100 --> 00:18:56.030
  • HE'LL PROVIDE MORE."
  • 00:18:56.030 --> 00:18:56.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:57.260
  • SO WE FINISHED OUR DINNER, AND
  • 00:18:57.260 --> 00:18:59.100
  • SHE SAID, "OH, AUNT GLO, I
  • 00:18:59.100 --> 00:19:01.100
  • FORGOT TO GIVE YOU YOUR MAIL."
  • 00:19:01.100 --> 00:19:02.150
  • SHE GIVES ME MY MAIL.
  • 00:19:02.150 --> 00:19:03.030
  • THERE'S A CHECK FOR $300.
  • 00:19:03.030 --> 00:19:05.000
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:05.220
  • TO THIS DAY, I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:19:06.050 --> 00:19:09.050
  • WHERE THAT CHECK CAME FROM.
  • 00:19:09.050 --> 00:19:11.120
  • I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM
  • 00:19:11.120 --> 00:19:12.040
  • EXCEPT GOD.
  • 00:19:12.040 --> 00:19:13.180
  • - CLIFTON: I GOTTA TELL OUR
  • 00:19:13.180 --> 00:19:14.150
  • VIEWING AUDIENCE, THIS ISN'T
  • 00:19:14.150 --> 00:19:15.210
  • PLANNED.
  • 00:19:15.230 --> 00:19:18.230
  • WE DIDN'T PLAN TO TELL YOU THAT
  • 00:19:18.230 --> 00:19:20.070
  • STORY.
  • 00:19:20.070 --> 00:19:22.020
  • THIS IS HOW GOD WORKS FROM TIME
  • 00:19:22.090 --> 00:19:25.090
  • TO TIME, OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
  • 00:19:25.090 --> 00:19:27.090
  • IT'S HAPPENED TO ME MORE TIMES
  • 00:19:27.090 --> 00:19:29.190
  • THAN I CAN REMEMBER, BUT HOW
  • 00:19:29.190 --> 00:19:31.290
  • WONDERFUL TO HEAR THE STORY OF
  • 00:19:31.290 --> 00:19:34.120
  • HOW HE DELIVERED YOU IN THAT
  • 00:19:34.120 --> 00:19:36.170
  • MOMENT.
  • 00:19:36.170 --> 00:19:38.040
  • - GLORIA: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:19:38.040 --> 00:19:38.220
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT A GREAT
  • 00:19:38.220 --> 00:19:39.100
  • EXPERIENCE, AND THAT'S NO WONDER
  • 00:19:39.100 --> 00:19:40.030
  • IF WAS A GREAT YEAR, AND IT
  • 00:19:40.030 --> 00:19:41.090
  • SEEMS AS THOUGH WE HAVE TO GO
  • 00:19:41.270 --> 00:19:44.270
  • THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT STUFF IN
  • 00:19:44.270 --> 00:19:47.010
  • ORDER TO FIND OUT HOW GREAT OUR
  • 00:19:47.010 --> 00:19:49.040
  • GOD IS.
  • 00:19:49.040 --> 00:19:50.010
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:50.010 --> 00:19:51.170
  • - GLORIA: OH, YES, OH, YES.
  • 00:19:55.100 --> 00:19:58.100
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT ARE THE
  • 00:19:58.180 --> 00:20:01.180
  • CHALLENGES YOU FIND IN TRYING TO
  • 00:20:01.180 --> 00:20:02.100
  • WALK WITH THE LORD AND STILL
  • 00:20:02.100 --> 00:20:03.100
  • MAINTAIN WHAT IS YOUR HISTORY,
  • 00:20:03.100 --> 00:20:05.140
  • YOUR CAREER, YOUR LEGACY IN
  • 00:20:05.140 --> 00:20:07.010
  • MUSIC?
  • 00:20:07.010 --> 00:20:09.120
  • - GLORIA: WELL, YOU GET PULLED.
  • 00:20:11.070 --> 00:20:14.070
  • YOU KNOW, YOU GET PULLED.
  • 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.200
  • THERE IS A PULL ON YOU TO DRESS
  • 00:20:17.280 --> 00:20:20.280
  • A CERTAIN WAY, TO LIVE A CERTAIN
  • 00:20:22.100 --> 00:20:25.100
  • WAY, TO DRINK, TO SMOKE, TO, YOU
  • 00:20:25.100 --> 00:20:26.100
  • KNOW, EVEN DO DRUGS.
  • 00:20:26.110 --> 00:20:29.110
  • I'VE HAD PEOPLE BRING ME DRUGS.
  • 00:20:31.180 --> 00:20:34.180
  • I'M LIKE, "UH, NO.
  • 00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:35.210
  • THAT'S NOT MY THING."
  • 00:20:35.210 --> 00:20:38.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:20:38.290 --> 00:20:41.290
  • BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS
  • 00:20:41.290 --> 00:20:42.210
  • BUSINESS HAS COME TO BE ABOUT,
  • 00:20:43.210 --> 00:20:46.210
  • IT SEEMS.
  • 00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:51.060
  • WE KNOW, AS CHRISTIANS, IF YOU
  • 00:20:51.060 --> 00:20:53.200
  • READ AND YOU STUDY THE WORD, YOU
  • 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:54.250
  • COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT MUSIC
  • 00:20:55.130 --> 00:20:58.130
  • WAS THE ENEMY'S--
  • 00:20:58.130 --> 00:20:59.100
  • THAT WAS HIS THING.
  • 00:20:59.100 --> 00:21:00.180
  • THAT'S A GIFT, AND GOD'S GIFTS
  • 00:21:00.180 --> 00:21:01.090
  • ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE.
  • 00:21:01.090 --> 00:21:02.240
  • SO HE STILL WANTS TO BE IN
  • 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:05.090
  • CONTROL OF THAT BUSINESS, SO HE
  • 00:21:05.190 --> 00:21:08.190
  • WANTS TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE
  • 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:10.100
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT
  • 00:21:10.100 --> 00:21:11.130
  • BUSINESS, AND HE WILL SEND YOU
  • 00:21:11.130 --> 00:21:12.250
  • ALL KINDS OF TEMPTATIONS, AND
  • 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:14.270
  • SOMETIMES HE A LITTLE BIT STUPID
  • 00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:19.080
  • 'CAUSE HE DON'T REALIZE THAT'S
  • 00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:20.060
  • NOT TEMPTATION FOR ME ANYMORE.
  • 00:21:20.060 --> 00:21:21.090
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE THE LORD.
  • 00:21:21.090 --> 00:21:22.290
  • - GLORIA: OH, HE WILL STILL
  • 00:21:22.290 --> 00:21:24.160
  • SEND THOSE THINGS, SO AT THIS
  • 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:25.280
  • POINT IN MY LIFE, IT'S JUST A
  • 00:21:25.280 --> 00:21:27.290
  • NUISANCE.
  • 00:21:27.290 --> 00:21:30.180
  • YEAH, IT'S KIND OF A NUISANCE.
  • 00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:32.070
  • - CLIFTON: SO THE CONFLICT THAT
  • 00:21:32.070 --> 00:21:34.000
  • YOU FEEL FROM TIME TO TIME IS
  • 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.180
  • NOT THE SAME ONE THAT SO MANY
  • 00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:38.270
  • OTHER ARTISTS HAVE BECAUSE
  • 00:21:38.270 --> 00:21:41.250
  • YOU'RE NOT TEMPTED IN THE WAY
  • 00:21:41.250 --> 00:21:42.160
  • THEY ARE.
  • 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:42.290
  • - GLORIA: NO.
  • 00:21:42.290 --> 00:21:44.080
  • - CLIFTON: BUT THE CONFLICT IS
  • 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:45.100
  • HAVING TO DO WHAT PERHAPS WHAT
  • 00:21:45.100 --> 00:21:47.060
  • YOU WOULD RATHER NOT DO, IN
  • 00:21:47.060 --> 00:21:49.090
  • TERMS OF RECALLING THE SONGS,
  • 00:21:49.090 --> 00:21:50.240
  • AND THEN BRINGING YOUR NEW
  • 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:52.220
  • MATERIAL INTO BEING?
  • 00:21:52.250 --> 00:21:55.250
  • - GLORIA: YES, BUT YOU KNOW
  • 00:21:55.250 --> 00:21:56.190
  • WHAT?
  • 00:21:56.190 --> 00:21:57.180
  • DURING THAT YEAR, I SPENT SO
  • 00:21:58.100 --> 00:22:01.120
  • MUCH TIME WITH THE LORD, AND
  • 00:22:01.120 --> 00:22:02.160
  • WHEN I WANTED TO DO-- I TRIED TO
  • 00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:06.180
  • BARGAIN WITH HIM.
  • 00:22:06.180 --> 00:22:07.200
  • YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, SO,
  • 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:08.230
  • LORD, SO I THINK THAT YOU DIDN'T
  • 00:22:08.230 --> 00:22:10.010
  • WANT ME TO DO ANYTHING.
  • 00:22:10.010 --> 00:22:12.130
  • YOU WANT ME TO SPEND THIS TIME
  • 00:22:12.130 --> 00:22:13.270
  • WITH YOU, AND I'M SPENDING THIS
  • 00:22:13.270 --> 00:22:15.000
  • TIME WITH YOU, SO WHEN I GO
  • 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.070
  • BACK, I'M GONNA DO A GOSPEL SONG
  • 00:22:20.030 --> 00:22:23.030
  • ON EVERY ONE OF MY ALBUMS," AND
  • 00:22:23.030 --> 00:22:24.180
  • HE SAID, "NO."
  • 00:22:24.280 --> 00:22:27.280
  • I SAID, "OKAY,
  • 00:22:27.280 --> 00:22:30.130
  • I'LL DO TWO."
  • 00:22:30.130 --> 00:22:31.240
  • HE SAID, "NO."
  • 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.290
  • I SAID, "OKAY,
  • 00:22:33.290 --> 00:22:36.000
  • I'LL DO HALF GOSPEL AND HALF--"
  • 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.240
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT RECORD COMPANY
  • 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.230
  • I THOUGHT WAS GONNA LET ME
  • 00:22:39.230 --> 00:22:40.210
  • DO THAT, BUT I FIGURED,
  • 00:22:40.210 --> 00:22:43.120
  • YOU KNOW, HE'S IN CONTROL.
  • 00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:45.030
  • MAYBE HE'LL MAKE 'EM LET ME.
  • 00:22:45.030 --> 00:22:47.030
  • AND HE'S LIKE,
  • 00:22:47.030 --> 00:22:47.240
  • I WAS LIKE, "OH, WOW, SO YOU
  • 00:22:51.140 --> 00:22:53.200
  • WANT ME TO-- OKAY.
  • 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.120
  • I'LL DO ALL GOSPEL.
  • 00:22:56.020 --> 00:22:59.020
  • I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A FIGHT
  • 00:22:59.020 --> 00:22:59.220
  • WITH MY HUSBAND/MANAGER, BUT IF
  • 00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:02.070
  • YOU WANT ME TO DO ALL GOSPEL
  • 00:23:02.070 --> 00:23:03.090
  • MUSIC, THAT'S WHAT I--" AND HE
  • 00:23:03.090 --> 00:23:04.160
  • AND NOW I'M REALLY PUZZLED.
  • 00:23:08.180 --> 00:23:10.100
  • - CLIFTON: YES.
  • 00:23:10.100 --> 00:23:11.210
  • - GLORIA: HE SAID, "MY WORD IS
  • 00:23:12.280 --> 00:23:15.280
  • ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES OF LIFE.
  • 00:23:16.030 --> 00:23:19.030
  • WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES YOU THINK
  • 00:23:19.030 --> 00:23:20.050
  • I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO SING
  • 00:23:20.050 --> 00:23:21.060
  • ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES OF LIFE
  • 00:23:21.060 --> 00:23:22.210
  • FROM MY POINT OF VIEW?"
  • 00:23:23.130 --> 00:23:26.130
  • HE SAID, "I WANT YOU TO TAKE
  • 00:23:26.130 --> 00:23:27.230
  • WHATEVER YOU SING, I WANT IT TO
  • 00:23:27.230 --> 00:23:30.230
  • BE IN KEEPING WITH MY WILL, MY
  • 00:23:30.230 --> 00:23:32.260
  • WORD, AND MY WAYS, AND I WANT
  • 00:23:32.260 --> 00:23:35.050
  • YOU TO TAKE IT RIGHT BACK TO
  • 00:23:35.050 --> 00:23:36.070
  • THOSE PEOPLE YOU'VE BEEN SINGIN'
  • 00:23:36.070 --> 00:23:37.010
  • TO ALL ALONG."
  • 00:23:37.010 --> 00:23:38.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:23:39.140 --> 00:23:42.140
  • SO THAT'S WHAT I DO.
  • 00:23:42.140 --> 00:23:43.270
  • I, IN EVERY ONE OF MY SHOWS, I
  • 00:23:43.270 --> 00:23:45.190
  • DO A FEW CHRISTIAN SONGS, BUT I
  • 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:48.150
  • SING THE SONGS THAT I'VE BEEN
  • 00:23:48.150 --> 00:23:50.170
  • SINGING.
  • 00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:51.110
  • I SING "NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE."
  • 00:23:51.110 --> 00:23:52.100
  • I SING "I WILL SURVIVE."
  • 00:23:52.100 --> 00:23:53.110
  • I SING "I AM WHAT I AM,"
  • 00:23:53.110 --> 00:23:55.020
  • AND I CHANGE SOME OF THE
  • 00:23:55.020 --> 00:23:57.110
  • LYRICS TO BE IN KEEPING
  • 00:23:57.110 --> 00:23:58.000
  • WITH HIS WILL, HIS WORD,
  • 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.130
  • AND HIS WAYS.
  • 00:23:59.130 --> 00:24:00.160
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.040
  • - CLIFTON: HALLELUJAH!
  • 00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:06.130
  • HOW ABOUT THAT?
  • 00:24:06.130 --> 00:24:08.170
  • I FOUND THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE AS
  • 00:24:08.170 --> 00:24:09.210
  • WELL.
  • 00:24:09.210 --> 00:24:10.260
  • I HAD TO COME INTO THE
  • 00:24:10.260 --> 00:24:13.080
  • RESOLUTION TO RESOLVE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:24:13.080 --> 00:24:14.280
  • HAVING WRITTEN SECULAR MUSIC FOR
  • 00:24:14.280 --> 00:24:17.120
  • MOTOWN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND
  • 00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:19.130
  • WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD DO IT AT
  • 00:24:19.130 --> 00:24:21.060
  • ALL, AND, OF COURSE, GOD SAID,
  • 00:24:21.060 --> 00:24:22.130
  • "I WROTE THAT WITH YOU, HUH?
  • 00:24:22.130 --> 00:24:23.240
  • WHO YOU THINK GAVE YOU THAT
  • 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:24.190
  • SONG?"
  • 00:24:26.040 --> 00:24:29.040
  • I SAID, "OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:24:29.040 --> 00:24:29.260
  • YOU DID IT, LORD."
  • 00:24:29.260 --> 00:24:31.200
  • AND SO, I HONOR HIM WITH
  • 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:32.270
  • MY GIFTS.
  • 00:24:32.270 --> 00:24:34.080
  • YOU KNOW, LIKE "THE LITTLE
  • 00:24:34.080 --> 00:24:36.060
  • DRUMMER BOY" IN THE CHRISTMAS
  • 00:24:36.060 --> 00:24:36.280
  • SONG, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:24:36.280 --> 00:24:38.280
  • "SO I HONOR YOU WITH MY DRUM."
  • 00:24:39.020 --> 00:24:42.020
  • - GLORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:24:42.020 --> 00:24:43.060
  • - CLIFTON: SO BRING YOUR DRUM
  • 00:24:43.060 --> 00:24:43.270
  • AND HONOR THE LORD.
  • 00:24:43.270 --> 00:24:44.200
  • I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:45.270
  • WHAT'S BEEN YOUR GREATEST
  • 00:24:45.270 --> 00:24:47.060
  • CHALLENGE SINCE BECOMING A
  • 00:24:47.090 --> 00:24:50.090
  • CHRISTIAN?
  • 00:24:50.090 --> 00:24:51.210
  • - GLORIA: WHAT'S BEEN MY
  • 00:24:51.210 --> 00:24:53.210
  • GREATEST CHALLENGE?
  • 00:24:53.210 --> 00:24:55.040
  • IT'S NOT PREACHING.
  • 00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:56.240
  • LEARNING TO SHARE, TO SHARE MY
  • 00:24:56.250 --> 00:24:59.250
  • FAITH, AND SO I'M A VERY
  • 00:24:59.250 --> 00:25:02.190
  • ANALYTICAL AND VERY PRACTICAL
  • 00:25:02.190 --> 00:25:05.000
  • PERSON, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, AND SO
  • 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:06.270
  • I DECIDED THAT WHAT I HAD TO DO,
  • 00:25:07.180 --> 00:25:10.180
  • I RECOGNIZE.
  • 00:25:10.180 --> 00:25:12.000
  • WE CAN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE THAT.
  • 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:13.280
  • WHAT I HAD TO DO WAS SHARE MY
  • 00:25:13.280 --> 00:25:14.270
  • FAITH LIKE I WOULD SHARE A
  • 00:25:14.270 --> 00:25:17.000
  • WONDERFUL, DELICIOUS PIECE OF
  • 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.050
  • CHOCOLATE CAKE, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:25:18.050 --> 00:25:19.110
  • "THIS IS WONDERFUL.
  • 00:25:19.110 --> 00:25:21.210
  • THIS IS GREAT.
  • 00:25:21.210 --> 00:25:22.150
  • THIS IS AWESOME.
  • 00:25:22.150 --> 00:25:23.100
  • I LOVE IT.
  • 00:25:23.100 --> 00:25:24.210
  • DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:25:24.210 --> 00:25:25.290
  • LIKE IT OR NOT, BUT I LOVE IT.
  • 00:25:25.290 --> 00:25:27.020
  • TRY, TRY THIS.
  • 00:25:27.020 --> 00:25:29.170
  • TASTE THIS, TRY."
  • 00:25:29.170 --> 00:25:30.270
  • AND THIS IS WHAT I DO,
  • 00:25:30.270 --> 00:25:31.260
  • AND I JUST KIND OF MINISTER TO
  • 00:25:31.260 --> 00:25:34.190
  • THEM, WHEREVER THEY ARE, ABOUT
  • 00:25:34.190 --> 00:25:36.160
  • WHATEVER THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
  • 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.140
  • I WILL PRAY FOR PEOPLE IN A
  • 00:25:38.140 --> 00:25:40.030
  • HEARTBEAT AND JUST SHARE, JUST
  • 00:25:40.070 --> 00:25:43.070
  • REALLY JUST SHARE, NOT TO SHOVE
  • 00:25:43.070 --> 00:25:45.240
  • ANYTHING DOWN ANYBODY'S THROAT,
  • 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.080
  • BUT JUST SHARE, AND ONE OF THE
  • 00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:51.170
  • THINGS I DO IN SHARING IS JUST
  • 00:25:51.170 --> 00:25:52.180
  • EXPLAIN TO THEM AND SHOW THEM,
  • 00:25:52.180 --> 00:25:53.200
  • TELL THEM WHAT GOD DID FOR ME.
  • 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:54.250
  • I CAME UP, AS I SAID, IN A
  • 00:25:55.010 --> 00:25:58.010
  • ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT WITH SIX
  • 00:25:58.010 --> 00:26:00.140
  • SIBLINGS, YEAH.
  • 00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:01.190
  • AND WHEN MY MOTHER PASSED AWAY
  • 00:26:01.190 --> 00:26:04.160
  • AND WE HAD TO MOVE, I ASKED GOD
  • 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.000
  • FOR A HOUSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.130
  • HOLES IN THE WALLS, OKAY?
  • 00:26:09.130 --> 00:26:11.100
  • I NOW LIVE IN A 5.500-SQUARE
  • 00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:15.220
  • FOOT HOME.
  • 00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:17.080
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE THE LORD.
  • 00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:18.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:20.210
  • - GLORIA: I TELL MY
  • 00:26:20.210 --> 00:26:21.110
  • FRIENDS, "I ASKED HIM FOR AN
  • 00:26:21.110 --> 00:26:23.230
  • APARTMENT THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:26:23.230 --> 00:26:24.140
  • HOLES IN THE WALLS.
  • 00:26:24.140 --> 00:26:25.090
  • HE'S AN OVERACHIEVER."
  • 00:26:25.090 --> 00:26:27.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:29.200
  • - CLIFTON: GOD HAS A WAY OF
  • 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:30.100
  • DOING THAT, DOESN'T HE?
  • 00:26:30.100 --> 00:26:31.040
  • UH-HUH, NOW THE ONLY HOLES IN
  • 00:26:31.040 --> 00:26:33.040
  • YOUR WALLS ARE FOR DOORS.
  • 00:26:33.040 --> 00:26:35.020
  • - GLORIA: YES, EXACTLY.
  • 00:26:35.020 --> 00:26:35.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:35.280 --> 00:26:36.280
  • AND WINDOWS, YEAH.
  • 00:26:36.280 --> 00:26:39.230
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, ARE MOST OF
  • 00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:40.160
  • YOUR FRIENDS CHRISTIANS?
  • 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:41.070
  • - GLORIA: NO, THEY'RE NOT.
  • 00:26:41.070 --> 00:26:41.270
  • NO, THEY'RE NOT.
  • 00:26:41.270 --> 00:26:42.230
  • - CLIFTON: SEEMS INTERESTING.
  • 00:26:42.230 --> 00:26:43.280
  • - GLORIA: 'CAUSE I GOTTA
  • 00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:45.070
  • MINISTER TO SOMEBODY.
  • 00:26:45.070 --> 00:26:45.250
  • - CLIFTON: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:46.290
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:26:46.290 --> 00:26:48.010
  • - GLORIA: BUT, I MEAN, MY
  • 00:26:48.010 --> 00:26:50.290
  • FRIENDS COME OUT OF MY WORK,
  • 00:26:50.290 --> 00:26:52.250
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO MANY
  • 00:26:52.250 --> 00:26:55.100
  • DIFFERENT AREAS.
  • 00:26:55.100 --> 00:26:57.230
  • THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT
  • 00:26:57.230 --> 00:26:59.080
  • BUSINESSES INTERTWINE WITH THE
  • 00:26:59.080 --> 00:27:01.140
  • MUSIC BUSINESS THAT I HAVE
  • 00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:03.040
  • FRIENDS FROM JUST ABOUT EVERY
  • 00:27:03.040 --> 00:27:05.010
  • WALK OF LIFE, AND THEY KNOW WHO
  • 00:27:05.010 --> 00:27:05.230
  • I AM.
  • 00:27:05.230 --> 00:27:07.280
  • THEY KNOW THAT I'M A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:27:07.280 --> 00:27:10.000
  • TO THE BONE, AND IT'S FUNNY.
  • 00:27:10.260 --> 00:27:13.260
  • THEY COME TO YOU FOR PRAYER--
  • 00:27:13.260 --> 00:27:15.240
  • - CLIFTON: ISN'T THAT
  • 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:16.150
  • SOMETHING?
  • 00:27:16.150 --> 00:27:17.050
  • - GLORIA: -- WHEN THEY HAVE A
  • 00:27:17.050 --> 00:27:18.150
  • PROBLEM, SOMETHIN' ISN'T GOING
  • 00:27:18.150 --> 00:27:20.080
  • RIGHT FOR THEM, SO I MINISTER TO
  • 00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:21.000
  • THEM WITH MY LIFE, AND WHEN I
  • 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.130
  • CAN, I MINISTER TO THEM IN SONG,
  • 00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:25.260
  • AND I MINISTER TO THEM FROM THE
  • 00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:28.200
  • WORD WHENEVER IT'S NOT GOING TO
  • 00:27:28.270 --> 00:27:31.270
  • BE INTRUSIVE, AND WHENEVER IT'S
  • 00:27:31.270 --> 00:27:33.200
  • NOT GOING TO BE OPPRESSIVE.
  • 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.270
  • - CLIFTON: I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:27:35.270 --> 00:27:36.230
  • MINISTER TO US IN SONG AGAIN.
  • 00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:39.000
  • - GLORIA: OKAY.
  • 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:39.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:27:39.260 --> 00:27:40.270
  • - CLIFTON: AND WITH YOUR
  • 00:27:40.270 --> 00:27:43.250
  • PERMISSION, I'LL GET OUT OF THE
  • 00:27:43.250 --> 00:27:45.010
  • WAY WHILE GLORIA GAYNOR
  • 00:27:45.010 --> 00:27:47.120
  • SINGS "DAY ONE."
  • 00:27:47.120 --> 00:27:49.040
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.000
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.120
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:27:58.120 --> 00:27:59.130
  • I'VE GOT SO MANY BURDENS ON
  • 00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:27.210
  • MY HEART,
  • 00:28:27.210 --> 00:28:30.080
  • QUESTIONS WEIGHIN' ON MY MIND
  • 00:28:30.270 --> 00:28:33.270
  • I'VE GROWN SO TIRED OF ALL
  • 00:28:33.270 --> 00:28:34.240
  • THIS MADNESS,
  • 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.260
  • WISHIN' I COULD LEAVE
  • 00:28:36.260 --> 00:28:37.210
  • AND EVEN NOW, FEAR AND DOUBT
  • 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:42.240
  • KEEP TRYIN' TO DRAG ME DOWN,
  • 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.000
  • TAKE ME OUT
  • 00:28:44.130 --> 00:28:47.130
  • SO HARD TO HEAR YOUR VOICE IN
  • 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.160
  • TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:58.220
  • WHEN YOU DRENCHED MY
  • 00:28:58.220 --> 00:29:00.290
  • HEART IN THE WATER,
  • 00:29:00.290 --> 00:29:02.210
  • AND I FELT LOVE FOR THE FIRST
  • 00:29:02.210 --> 00:29:04.040
  • TIME
  • 00:29:04.040 --> 00:29:07.020
  • BREATHE LIFE INTO THESE WEARY
  • 00:29:07.290 --> 00:29:10.290
  • LUNGS, AND TAKE ME BACK, OH,
  • 00:29:13.020 --> 00:29:16.020
  • ALL MY HOPE SHOULD BE FOUND N
  • 00:29:37.130 --> 00:29:40.130
  • YOU,
  • 00:29:40.130 --> 00:29:41.090
  • NOT THE SOCIALS OR THE
  • 00:29:41.090 --> 00:29:41.290
  • DAILY NEWS
  • 00:29:41.290 --> 00:29:42.220
  • THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRUTH I
  • 00:29:42.220 --> 00:29:44.090
  • NEED
  • 00:29:44.090 --> 00:29:46.230
  • ONLY YOU CAN SET ME FREE
  • 00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:48.210
  • SO TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:29:52.010 --> 00:29:55.010
  • WHEN YOU DRENCHED MY HEART
  • 00:29:55.010 --> 00:29:57.150
  • IN THE WATER,
  • 00:29:57.150 --> 00:29:59.010
  • AND I FELT LOVE FOR THE
  • 00:29:59.010 --> 00:30:00.230
  • FIRST TIME
  • 00:30:00.230 --> 00:30:03.120
  • BREATHE LIFE INTO THESE WEARY
  • 00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:05.290
  • LUNGS,
  • 00:30:07.090 --> 00:30:10.090
  • AND TAKE ME BACK, LORD,
  • 00:30:11.090 --> 00:30:14.090
  • TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:30:17.210 --> 00:30:20.210
  • BACK TO LOVE, JOY, PEACE, AND
  • 00:30:20.210 --> 00:30:23.110
  • HAPPINESS,
  • 00:30:24.080 --> 00:30:27.080
  • WHERE YOU GAVE THIS
  • 00:30:27.280 --> 00:30:30.280
  • WAYWARD CHILD A SECOND CHANCE
  • 00:30:32.060 --> 00:30:35.060
  • 'CAUSE WHERE MY SOUL FINDS
  • 00:30:35.060 --> 00:30:37.250
  • COMFORT, I FIND REST,
  • 00:30:40.010 --> 00:30:43.010
  • OH, MM-MM, MM-MM-MM
  • 00:30:53.230 --> 00:30:56.230
  • TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:30:59.040 --> 00:31:02.060
  • WHERE YOU DRENCHED MY HEART N
  • 00:31:02.060 --> 00:31:03.220
  • THE WATER,
  • 00:31:03.220 --> 00:31:06.020
  • AND I FELT LOVE FOR THE
  • 00:31:06.020 --> 00:31:07.170
  • FIRST TIME
  • 00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:10.110
  • BREATHE LIFE INTO THESE WEARY
  • 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.200
  • LUNGS,
  • 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.160
  • AND TAKE ME BACK, LORD,
  • 00:31:18.020 --> 00:31:21.020
  • TAKE ME BACK, TAKE ME BACK,
  • 00:31:23.260 --> 00:31:26.260
  • OH, TAKE ME BACK TO DAY ONE
  • 00:31:31.060 --> 00:31:34.060
  • TO DAY ONE
  • 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.000
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:31:47.130 --> 00:31:50.130
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
  • 00:31:50.130 --> 00:31:52.280
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:31:52.280 --> 00:31:54.000
  • - CLIFTON: GLORIA GAYNOR.
  • 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:54.270
  • GOOD LORD, WHAT A GIFTED WOMAN
  • 00:31:54.270 --> 00:31:56.070
  • YOU ARE.
  • 00:31:56.070 --> 00:31:58.250
  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
  • 00:31:58.250 --> 00:32:00.220
  • - CLIFTON: WHAT A BLESSING TO
  • 00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:02.160
  • KNOW YOU AND TO-- YEAH!
  • 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.230
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:06.160
  • AND TO EXPERIENCE WHAT IS
  • 00:32:08.030 --> 00:32:11.030
  • NOW MINISTRY AS WELL.
  • 00:32:11.030 --> 00:32:12.030
  • DO YOU GO TO CHURCH REGULARLY?
  • 00:32:12.030 --> 00:32:14.070
  • - GLORIA: REGULARLY, YES.
  • 00:32:14.070 --> 00:32:14.260
  • - CLIFTON: YOU KNOW, I GET
  • 00:32:14.260 --> 00:32:17.230
  • CHALLENGED SOMETIMES.
  • 00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:18.240
  • I HAVE TO FIND A CHURCH-- I
  • 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:19.250
  • FOUND A CHURCH AT ST. LUKE
  • 00:32:19.250 --> 00:32:21.290
  • BAPTIST CHURCH--
  • 00:32:21.290 --> 00:32:23.070
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.160
  • A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM THERE
  • 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.250
  • ARE HERE TONIGHT, I THINK.
  • 00:32:30.030 --> 00:32:33.030
  • ANYWAY, I'M LICENSED THERE, AND
  • 00:32:33.060 --> 00:32:36.060
  • IT'S A PLACE WHERE I CAN GO AND
  • 00:32:36.060 --> 00:32:37.060
  • JUST WORSHIP.
  • 00:32:37.060 --> 00:32:38.050
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:41.130
  • SOMETIMES FAMOUS PEOPLE HAVE
  • 00:32:42.250 --> 00:32:45.250
  • A DIFFICULT TIME IN CHURCH
  • 00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:48.130
  • BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE
  • 00:32:48.130 --> 00:32:50.170
  • PARISHIONERS WILL SEE YOU
  • 00:32:50.170 --> 00:32:52.280
  • COME IN, AND THEY'LL RECOGNIZE
  • 00:32:52.280 --> 00:32:54.140
  • YOU, AND THEN SUDDENLY THEY'RE
  • 00:32:54.140 --> 00:32:55.160
  • NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE
  • 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:56.060
  • SERMON.
  • 00:32:56.060 --> 00:32:57.260
  • THEY'RE TRYIN' TO GET YOUR
  • 00:32:57.260 --> 00:32:59.230
  • ATTENTION, AND THEY WANT-- YOU
  • 00:32:59.230 --> 00:33:00.290
  • KNOW, AND THEY'RE LOSING A
  • 00:33:00.290 --> 00:33:03.130
  • BLESSING, SO SOMETIMES IT FEELS
  • 00:33:03.130 --> 00:33:06.020
  • FUNNY TO JUST GO UNTIL YOU CAN
  • 00:33:06.020 --> 00:33:08.090
  • GO THERE AT LEAST ENOUGH TIMES
  • 00:33:08.090 --> 00:33:10.220
  • SO EVERYBODY GOES, "OH, THAT'S
  • 00:33:10.220 --> 00:33:12.210
  • JUST CLIF."
  • 00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:14.040
  • - GLORIA: RIGHT.
  • 00:33:14.040 --> 00:33:14.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:14.260 --> 00:33:17.200
  • - CLIFTON: AND WE CAN ALL
  • 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.000
  • HOLD HANDS AND WORSHIP
  • 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.020
  • THE LORD, YOU KNOW, IN THE
  • 00:33:20.020 --> 00:33:20.220
  • BEAUTY OF HOLINESS.
  • 00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:22.210
  • SO DO YOU FIND THAT TO BE A
  • 00:33:22.210 --> 00:33:25.000
  • CHALLENGE WHEN YOU GO TO CHURCH?
  • 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.200
  • - GLORIA: NO, BECAUSE MY PASTOR
  • 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:28.160
  • MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT JESUS
  • 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:29.240
  • DOESN'T HAVE ANY COSTARS.
  • 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.050
  • - CLIFTON: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:33:32.050 --> 00:33:32.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:35.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:33:35.120 --> 00:33:36.190
  • - GLORIA: NO, WE GET A LOT OF
  • 00:33:36.190 --> 00:33:37.110
  • CELEBRITIES AT OUR CHURCH, AND
  • 00:33:37.110 --> 00:33:39.160
  • NOBODY MAKES A FUSS OVER
  • 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:40.100
  • ANYBODY.
  • 00:33:40.100 --> 00:33:42.220
  • YEAH, WE GET DENZEL WASHINGTON,
  • 00:33:42.220 --> 00:33:44.120
  • WE GET BEBE WINANS, WE GET
  • 00:33:44.120 --> 00:33:45.190
  • ANGELA BASSETT AND-- YEAH.
  • 00:33:45.190 --> 00:33:47.000
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE THE LORD.
  • 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:48.240
  • - GLORIA: BUT, NO, NOBODY--
  • 00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.090
  • IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LORD.
  • 00:33:51.120 --> 00:33:54.120
  • - CLIFTON: THAT SOUNDS LIKE
  • 00:33:54.120 --> 00:33:56.270
  • WEST ANGELES.
  • 00:33:56.270 --> 00:33:57.160
  • - GLORIA: NO, I GO TO
  • 00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.140
  • CHRISTIAN CULTURAL CENTER IN
  • 00:33:58.140 --> 00:33:59.100
  • BROOKLYN, NEW YORK.
  • 00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:04.130
  • - CLIFTON: OH, I KNOW, ALL
  • 00:34:04.130 --> 00:34:05.120
  • RIGHT, I'M FAMILIAR WITH HIM.
  • 00:34:05.120 --> 00:34:06.130
  • HE'S BEEN MY GUEST.
  • 00:34:06.130 --> 00:34:07.020
  • THE FORMER PASTOR WAS MY-- THE
  • 00:34:07.020 --> 00:34:08.060
  • PASTOR EMERITUS WAS A GUEST OF
  • 00:34:08.060 --> 00:34:09.220
  • MINE, 15 YEARS AGO, ON TBN IN
  • 00:34:09.220 --> 00:34:11.100
  • L.A., SO WHAT A BLESSING.
  • 00:34:11.100 --> 00:34:12.260
  • AND YOU HAVE DEVELOPED A HEART
  • 00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:17.110
  • FOR HELPING THOSE IN NEED, AND
  • 00:34:17.110 --> 00:34:19.100
  • THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
  • 00:34:19.100 --> 00:34:21.120
  • WOULD YOU TALK TO US FOR A BIT
  • 00:34:21.120 --> 00:34:23.000
  • ABOUT HOW THAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.030
  • YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEONE WHO MADE
  • 00:34:25.170 --> 00:34:28.170
  • IT THROUGH A CHALLENGING TIME
  • 00:34:28.170 --> 00:34:31.080
  • WHERE YOU HAD GREAT NEEDS, HOW
  • 00:34:31.080 --> 00:34:33.140
  • DOES IT EMERGE THAT YOU CAN HELP
  • 00:34:33.140 --> 00:34:35.250
  • SOMEBODY ELSE?
  • 00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:37.020
  • - GLORIA: WELL, GOD HAS BLESSED
  • 00:34:37.020 --> 00:34:38.180
  • ME TREMENDOUSLY, AND I THINK
  • 00:34:38.180 --> 00:34:39.180
  • IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THE ONLY
  • 00:34:43.290 --> 00:34:44.190
  • REASON HE-- WELL, ONE OF THE
  • 00:34:44.190 --> 00:34:45.130
  • REASONS WHY HE DOES THAT IS SO
  • 00:34:45.130 --> 00:34:46.290
  • THAT YOU CAN BLESS OTHERS.
  • 00:34:46.290 --> 00:34:47.230
  • I GET ALL KINDS OF MAIL.
  • 00:34:52.100 --> 00:34:53.190
  • I GET A STACK OF MAIL LIKE THAT.
  • 00:34:53.190 --> 00:34:55.000
  • THREE OF THEM ARE MAIL FOR ME,
  • 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:56.170
  • OTHERS ARE CHARITIES.
  • 00:34:56.170 --> 00:34:59.120
  • SO THERE'S MANY, MANY CHARITIES,
  • 00:34:59.120 --> 00:35:00.130
  • AND I DECIDED THAT I NEED TO
  • 00:35:00.130 --> 00:35:02.020
  • REALLY BRING IT DOWN TO--
  • 00:35:02.020 --> 00:35:04.200
  • INSTEAD OF SENDIN', YOU KNOW,
  • 00:35:04.200 --> 00:35:07.060
  • $5 TO THIS ONE AND $10 TO THAT
  • 00:35:07.060 --> 00:35:08.190
  • ONE, I NEED TO BRING IN THE--
  • 00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:11.250
  • CHOOSE THE CHARITIES THAT I
  • 00:35:11.250 --> 00:35:14.060
  • REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT, AND SO
  • 00:35:14.110 --> 00:35:17.110
  • I'VE DEVELOPED THIS-- CREATED
  • 00:35:17.110 --> 00:35:18.140
  • THIS WEBSITE CALLED
  • 00:35:18.140 --> 00:35:20.220
  • AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT IT'S
  • 00:35:25.090 --> 00:35:27.050
  • BECOME AN "I WILL SURVIVE"
  • 00:35:27.050 --> 00:35:27.260
  • COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE COME
  • 00:35:28.040 --> 00:35:31.040
  • ONTO THE SITE, AND THEY WRITE
  • 00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:33.080
  • THEIR SURVIVAL STORIES, AND SO
  • 00:35:33.080 --> 00:35:34.270
  • THEY SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, AND
  • 00:35:34.270 --> 00:35:36.100
  • THEY ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER
  • 00:35:36.100 --> 00:35:37.230
  • THROUGH THAT, AND AT THE SAME
  • 00:35:37.230 --> 00:35:39.060
  • AND 10% OF EVERY PURCHASE GOES
  • 00:35:42.050 --> 00:35:43.010
  • TO A CHARITY OF THE BUYER'S
  • 00:35:43.010 --> 00:35:44.290
  • CHOICE.
  • 00:35:44.290 --> 00:35:46.200
  • WE HAVE EIGHT CHARITIES.
  • 00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:48.220
  • WE SUPPORT FISHER HOUSE, AND I
  • 00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:52.150
  • KNEW THAT I WASN'T GONNA
  • 00:35:52.150 --> 00:35:55.120
  • REMEMBER THESE TEN, BUT WE
  • 00:35:55.120 --> 00:35:56.130
  • SUPPORT A NUMBER OF CHARITIES
  • 00:35:56.190 --> 00:35:59.190
  • FOR THE SOLDIERS, FOR ANIMAL
  • 00:35:59.190 --> 00:36:01.140
  • RESCUE, FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING,
  • 00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:04.260
  • FOR DISPLACED-- OR CHILDREN
  • 00:36:05.150 --> 00:36:08.150
  • HAVING DIFFICULTY IN THEIR
  • 00:36:08.150 --> 00:36:09.210
  • LIVES, HELPING THEM WITH SCHOOL
  • 00:36:09.210 --> 00:36:11.230
  • AND ALL OF THAT, GET AN
  • 00:36:11.230 --> 00:36:13.170
  • EDUCATION, AND SO YOU CAN GO
  • 00:36:15.140 --> 00:36:18.140
  • ONTO THE SITE, MAKE A PURCHASE
  • 00:36:18.140 --> 00:36:19.190
  • AND DONATE TO THE CHARITY OF
  • 00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:21.280
  • YOUR CHOICE, AND IT'S JUST MY
  • 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.110
  • WAY OF GIVING BACK AND SOME OF
  • 00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:27.120
  • THE BLESSING THAT THE LORD HAS
  • 00:36:27.120 --> 00:36:28.050
  • BESTOWED UPON ME.
  • 00:36:28.050 --> 00:36:29.190
  • I THINK IT'S KIND OF THE LEAST I
  • 00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:31.090
  • CAN DO.
  • 00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:32.090
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, THAT'S A
  • 00:36:32.090 --> 00:36:32.280
  • WONDERFUL THING, YEAH.
  • 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:33.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:38.160
  • AND WHEN YOU BEGAN THIS
  • 00:36:38.160 --> 00:36:39.150
  • CHARITY, DID YOU FIND THAT
  • 00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:40.130
  • THOSE PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE
  • 00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:43.110
  • AVAILABLE FOR SALE, DID ANY OF
  • 00:36:43.110 --> 00:36:45.150
  • THOSE COMPANIES START DONATING
  • 00:36:45.150 --> 00:36:47.030
  • SO THAT THEY COULD BE A PART OF
  • 00:36:47.030 --> 00:36:48.130
  • THE CHARITABLE CIRCLE?
  • 00:36:48.130 --> 00:36:51.060
  • - GLORIA: NO.
  • 00:36:53.130 --> 00:36:56.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:58.000
  • NO, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS
  • 00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:59.030
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN,
  • 00:36:59.030 --> 00:37:00.170
  • LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:37:00.170 --> 00:37:01.150
  • TO COME ON AND JUST MAKE
  • 00:37:01.150 --> 00:37:02.030
  • THOSE PURCHASES AND GIVE THAT
  • 00:37:02.030 --> 00:37:03.290
  • MONEY, AND WHAT THESE COMPANIES
  • 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.000
  • HAVE DONE IS PUT MY SITE ONTO
  • 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.000
  • THEIR WEBSITES, AND THEN PEOPLE
  • 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.200
  • COME TO MY WEBSITE, NOT ONLY TO
  • 00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:18.180
  • MAKE PURCHASES, BUT TO DONATE TO
  • 00:37:18.180 --> 00:37:20.030
  • THEM THROUGH THAT WEBSITE AS
  • 00:37:20.030 --> 00:37:21.130
  • WELL.
  • 00:37:21.130 --> 00:37:22.070
  • - CLIFTON: OH, THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:37:22.070 --> 00:37:22.270
  • THAT'S EXCELLENT.
  • 00:37:22.270 --> 00:37:23.220
  • VERY GOOD.
  • 00:37:23.220 --> 00:37:25.270
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:37:25.270 --> 00:37:28.110
  • WELL, NOW, THAT'S ONLINE, BUT
  • 00:37:28.110 --> 00:37:29.110
  • HOW DO YOU USE YOUR TALENTS
  • 00:37:29.110 --> 00:37:30.120
  • TO HELP AS WELL?
  • 00:37:30.120 --> 00:37:32.280
  • - GLORIA: OH, I SING FOR
  • 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.060
  • DIFFERENT-- YOU KNOW, I'M SURE
  • 00:37:34.060 --> 00:37:36.050
  • YOU GET THE SAME THING--
  • 00:37:36.050 --> 00:37:38.160
  • DIFFERENT CHARITIES COMIN' TO
  • 00:37:38.160 --> 00:37:40.120
  • YOU, ASKING YOU TO SING AT THEIR
  • 00:37:40.120 --> 00:37:42.030
  • FUNDRAISERS LIKE MIAMI
  • 00:37:42.030 --> 00:37:44.100
  • CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, DOWN IN
  • 00:37:44.100 --> 00:37:45.250
  • FLORIDA, WHICH IS A CANCER
  • 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.000
  • HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN, I HAVE
  • 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:48.170
  • GONE THERE AND SUNG FOR THEM
  • 00:37:48.170 --> 00:37:51.120
  • DURING THEIR FUNDRAISERS, AND I
  • 00:37:52.060 --> 00:37:55.060
  • REWROTE THE WORDS TO "I WILL
  • 00:37:55.060 --> 00:37:57.040
  • SURVIVE," TO DO A CAMPAIGN FOR
  • 00:37:57.040 --> 00:37:58.280
  • THEM, AND DIFFERENT
  • 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.080
  • ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME TO ME,
  • 00:38:02.160 --> 00:38:05.160
  • CANCER FUNDS, AND A DIABETES
  • 00:38:05.160 --> 00:38:08.090
  • FUND, AND DIFFERENT KINDS.
  • 00:38:08.090 --> 00:38:09.080
  • SO I DO IT THAT WAY.
  • 00:38:09.080 --> 00:38:11.080
  • I LEND MY TALENT TO THEIR
  • 00:38:11.080 --> 00:38:13.010
  • FUNDRAISERS.
  • 00:38:13.010 --> 00:38:14.250
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, THERE'S SOME
  • 00:38:14.250 --> 00:38:17.250
  • FOOTAGE THAT WE HAVE THAT I'D
  • 00:38:20.120 --> 00:38:23.120
  • LIKE TO SHARE OUR AUDIENCE IF WE
  • 00:38:23.230 --> 00:38:26.230
  • CAN DO THAT NOW.
  • 00:38:26.230 --> 00:38:27.180
  • LET'S ROLL THAT PIECE OF TAPE.
  • 00:38:27.180 --> 00:38:29.210
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:38:34.290 --> 00:38:37.290
  • AT FIRST, I WAS AFRAID,
  • 00:38:37.290 --> 00:38:39.250
  • I WAS PETRIFIED,
  • 00:38:39.250 --> 00:38:41.130
  • KEPT THINKIN' I COULD NEVER
  • 00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:42.200
  • LIVE WITHOUT YOU BY MY SIDE,
  • 00:38:42.200 --> 00:38:45.140
  • BUT THEN I SPENT SO MANY
  • 00:38:45.140 --> 00:38:47.050
  • NIGHTS THINKIN' HOW YOU DID
  • 00:38:47.050 --> 00:38:48.090
  • ME WRONG,
  • 00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:49.020
  • AND I GREW STRONG AND
  • 00:38:49.020 --> 00:38:50.090
  • I LEARNED HOW TO GET ALONG
  • 00:38:50.090 --> 00:38:52.290
  • SO NOW YOU'RE BACK FROM OUTER
  • 00:38:52.290 --> 00:38:54.040
  • SPACE
  • 00:38:54.040 --> 00:38:56.200
  • I JUST WALKED IN TO FIND YOU
  • 00:38:56.200 --> 00:38:57.280
  • HERE
  • 00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.150
  • WITH THAT SAD LOOK UPON
  • 00:38:59.150 --> 00:39:00.090
  • YOUR FACE
  • 00:39:00.090 --> 00:39:01.020
  • I SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THAT
  • 00:39:01.020 --> 00:39:02.010
  • STUPID LOCK
  • 00:39:02.010 --> 00:39:02.270
  • I SHOULD HAVE MADE YOU LEAVE
  • 00:39:02.270 --> 00:39:03.210
  • YOUR KEY
  • 00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:04.190
  • IF I'D KNOWN FOR JUST
  • 00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:06.000
  • ONE SECOND YOU'D BE BACK TO
  • 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:06.200
  • BOTHER ME
  • 00:39:06.200 --> 00:39:08.090
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:39:08.090 --> 00:39:08.290
  • - CLIFTON: THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:39:08.290 --> 00:39:09.230
  • - GLORIA: OH, YEAH, THAT WAS SO
  • 00:39:09.230 --> 00:39:10.150
  • MUCH FUN.
  • 00:39:10.150 --> 00:39:11.050
  • - CLIFTON: THOSE KINDS OF
  • 00:39:11.050 --> 00:39:11.270
  • THINGS ARE SO EXCITING, AREN'T
  • 00:39:11.270 --> 00:39:12.180
  • THEY?
  • 00:39:12.180 --> 00:39:12.270
  • - GLORIA: OH, YEAH, IT WAS.
  • 00:39:12.270 --> 00:39:13.170
  • - CLIFTON: OH, I KNOW THAT MUST
  • 00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:14.090
  • BE FUN FOR YOU THOUGH.
  • 00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:14.260
  • - GLORIA: IT WAS.
  • 00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:15.110
  • - CLIFTON: OH, ASIDE FROM THE
  • 00:39:15.110 --> 00:39:16.040
  • FACT THAT YOU GET TO SING, IT'S
  • 00:39:16.040 --> 00:39:17.180
  • JUST GREAT TO SEE SO MANY
  • 00:39:17.180 --> 00:39:19.090
  • SURVIVORS AND SUPPORTERS FOR
  • 00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:21.050
  • SURVIVORS OF CANCER, AND THERE'S
  • 00:39:21.050 --> 00:39:23.160
  • SO MUCH THAT WE HAVE TO SURVIVE
  • 00:39:23.160 --> 00:39:26.150
  • IN THIS WORLD TODAY.
  • 00:39:26.150 --> 00:39:28.110
  • - GLORIA: YES.
  • 00:39:28.110 --> 00:39:29.260
  • - CLIFTON: THE NEWS IS JUST
  • 00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:32.180
  • RIFE WITH ALL KINDS OF
  • 00:39:32.180 --> 00:39:34.290
  • CHALLENGES, AND, WELL, WE WERE
  • 00:39:36.200 --> 00:39:39.200
  • GRATEFUL FOR OPRAH'S WORDS, AND
  • 00:39:39.200 --> 00:39:40.140
  • WE'RE--
  • 00:39:40.140 --> 00:39:43.000
  • - GLORIA: AND I DIDN'T
  • 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:44.100
  • GET TO HEAR THEM BECAUSE I WAS
  • 00:39:44.100 --> 00:39:46.070
  • BUSY CRAFTING A MESSAGE TO--
  • 00:39:46.070 --> 00:39:48.240
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, GO TO YOUTUBE,
  • 00:39:48.240 --> 00:39:49.250
  • HONEY.
  • 00:39:49.250 --> 00:39:52.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:39:52.090 --> 00:39:52.230
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, I WILL.
  • 00:39:52.230 --> 00:39:53.220
  • - CLIFTON: MM, MM, MM, THAT'S
  • 00:39:53.220 --> 00:39:54.260
  • ALL I CAN SAY.
  • 00:39:54.260 --> 00:39:56.290
  • - GLORIA: UH-HUH.
  • 00:39:56.290 --> 00:39:57.260
  • - CLIFTON: JUST AMAZING.
  • 00:39:57.260 --> 00:39:58.150
  • - GLORIA: WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL.
  • 00:39:59.050 --> 00:40:02.050
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.090
  • - CLIFTON: I WOULD IMAGINE,
  • 00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:05.250
  • WITH ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO,
  • 00:40:05.250 --> 00:40:07.170
  • NOT JUST ENTERTAINING,
  • 00:40:07.170 --> 00:40:08.270
  • BUT MINISTERING AND WORKING WITH
  • 00:40:09.010 --> 00:40:12.010
  • YOUR ONLINE CHARITY AND THINGS
  • 00:40:12.010 --> 00:40:13.160
  • LIKE THAT, THAT THERE ARE LIVES
  • 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:18.000
  • THAT HAVE BEEN TOUCHED,
  • 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.280
  • TRANSFORMED, CHANGED BY SOME OF
  • 00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.200
  • THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND
  • 00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:25.190
  • YOU MIGHT HAVE A STORY OR TWO OF
  • 00:40:25.190 --> 00:40:27.140
  • ONE OR TWO OF THOSE.
  • 00:40:27.140 --> 00:40:29.140
  • WOULD YOU MIND SHARING THAT WITH
  • 00:40:29.140 --> 00:40:31.020
  • US?
  • 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.000
  • - GLORIA: WELL, MY, I THINK,
  • 00:40:35.150 --> 00:40:38.150
  • MOST FAVORITE, MOST POIGNANT
  • 00:40:38.150 --> 00:40:40.250
  • STORY IS ABOUT I WAS OVER IN
  • 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.000
  • AND I HAD JUST CHANGED THE
  • 00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:49.010
  • LYRICS OF "I WILL SURVIVE" TO BE
  • 00:40:49.010 --> 00:40:51.070
  • IN KEEPING WITH MY FAITH, AND
  • 00:40:51.070 --> 00:40:53.180
  • WHERE IT ORIGINALLY SAID, "IT
  • 00:40:53.180 --> 00:40:55.290
  • TOOK ALL THE STRENGTH I HAD NOT
  • 00:40:55.290 --> 00:40:56.290
  • I CHANGED IT TO SAY, "ONLY THE
  • 00:40:59.090 --> 00:41:01.140
  • LORD COULD GIVE ME STRENGTH NOT
  • 00:41:01.140 --> 00:41:02.150
  • TO FALL APART," SIMPLY 'CAUSE
  • 00:41:02.150 --> 00:41:03.200
  • THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:04.240
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:07.060
  • AND SO I SANG THOSE WORDS
  • 00:41:07.060 --> 00:41:09.030
  • FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THIS
  • 00:41:09.030 --> 00:41:10.210
  • CONCERT IN ITALY, AND A YOUNG
  • 00:41:10.210 --> 00:41:11.280
  • LADY CAME TO ME AFTER THE SHOW,
  • 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.120
  • AND SHE SAID, "I'M SO GLAD I
  • 00:41:13.180 --> 00:41:16.180
  • CAME TO SEE YOUR SHOW," AND I
  • 00:41:16.260 --> 00:41:19.260
  • SAID, "THANK YOU."
  • 00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:21.130
  • SHE SAID, "I WAS SUPPOSED
  • 00:41:21.230 --> 00:41:24.230
  • TO GO HOME TODAY,
  • 00:41:24.230 --> 00:41:26.030
  • BUT I MISSED MY FLIGHT."
  • 00:41:26.030 --> 00:41:28.020
  • I SAID, "OH, I'M SORRY."
  • 00:41:28.020 --> 00:41:28.210
  • SHE SAID, "NO,
  • 00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:29.150
  • YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:41:29.150 --> 00:41:30.020
  • I'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF
  • 00:41:30.020 --> 00:41:32.290
  • DIFFICULTY HERE IN MY LIFE," SHE
  • 00:41:35.010 --> 00:41:38.010
  • SAID, "AND WHERE I'M STAYING
  • 00:41:38.010 --> 00:41:39.140
  • HERE, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRIVACY,
  • 00:41:39.140 --> 00:41:41.080
  • BUT I WAS SO DEPRESSED THAT I
  • 00:41:41.080 --> 00:41:44.070
  • WAS GOING HOME TO COMMIT
  • 00:41:44.070 --> 00:41:45.160
  • SUICIDE."
  • 00:41:45.160 --> 00:41:48.020
  • SHE SAID, "BUT NOW THAT
  • 00:41:48.020 --> 00:41:49.200
  • I'VE HEARD THE WORDS TO
  • 00:41:49.200 --> 00:41:51.060
  • YOUR SONG, I KNOW WHERE MY
  • 00:41:51.060 --> 00:41:53.040
  • STRENGTH CAN COME FROM, AND I
  • 00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:54.240
  • DON'T HAVE TO DIE."
  • 00:41:54.240 --> 00:41:55.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:41:55.150 --> 00:41:58.060
  • SO, OF COURSE, WE WERE BOTH
  • 00:41:58.060 --> 00:42:00.100
  • STANDIN' THERE, A PUDDLE, YOU
  • 00:42:00.100 --> 00:42:01.260
  • KNOW.
  • 00:42:01.260 --> 00:42:02.130
  • YEAH, YEAH, "I KNOW WHERE MY
  • 00:42:02.130 --> 00:42:03.100
  • STRENGTH CAN COME FROM, AND I
  • 00:42:03.100 --> 00:42:04.120
  • DON'T HAVE TO DIE."
  • 00:42:04.120 --> 00:42:05.010
  • - CLIFTON: HALLELUJAH.
  • 00:42:05.010 --> 00:42:06.060
  • I AM SO ALWAYS SO GLAD TO HEAR
  • 00:42:06.060 --> 00:42:09.060
  • THAT, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:42:09.260 --> 00:42:12.260
  • IT'S HAPPENED TO ME A COUPLE OF
  • 00:42:12.260 --> 00:42:14.290
  • TIMES IN MY LIFE WHERE SOME
  • 00:42:14.290 --> 00:42:16.250
  • TESTIMONY I GAVE OR SOME MESSAGE
  • 00:42:17.020 --> 00:42:20.020
  • I GAVE CAUSED SOMEONE TO CHANGE
  • 00:42:20.090 --> 00:42:23.090
  • THEIR MIND AND TO TRY TO
  • 00:42:23.090 --> 00:42:25.010
  • SURVIVE.
  • 00:42:25.010 --> 00:42:27.190
  • BUT HOW WONDERFUL THAT SOON AS
  • 00:42:27.190 --> 00:42:28.280
  • YOU GAVE IT TO THE LORD, HE GAVE
  • 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.170
  • YOU A WITNESS.
  • 00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:31.150
  • HE GAVE YOU A TESTIMONY AND
  • 00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:33.280
  • SOMEBODY WHOSE LIFE WAS
  • 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.190
  • POSITIVELY IMPACTED BY THAT
  • 00:42:35.190 --> 00:42:37.180
  • LITTLE CHANGE IN THE LYRIC.
  • 00:42:37.180 --> 00:42:38.210
  • YOUR SONGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:42:42.060 --> 00:42:45.060
  • SINGING TODAY ARE A PART OF A
  • 00:42:45.060 --> 00:42:46.050
  • NEW PROJECT.
  • 00:42:46.050 --> 00:42:46.250
  • TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
  • 00:42:47.150 --> 00:42:50.150
  • THE BIRTH OF THE PROJECT, WHERE
  • 00:42:50.180 --> 00:42:53.180
  • THE IDEA CAME FROM, AND WHAT'S
  • 00:42:53.180 --> 00:42:55.200
  • IT CALLED, AND WHEN CAN WE LOOK
  • 00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:57.040
  • FOR IT?
  • 00:42:57.040 --> 00:42:58.190
  • - GLORIA: WELL, WE HAVE, FIRST
  • 00:42:58.190 --> 00:42:59.210
  • OF ALL, THE PRODUCER
  • 00:42:59.210 --> 00:43:01.190
  • CHRIS STEVENS, WHO IS A
  • 00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:03.190
  • MULTI-AWARD-WINNING PRODUCER,
  • 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.280
  • MANY DOVE AWARDS AND GRAMMY
  • 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.130
  • AWARDS FOR HIS MUSIC.
  • 00:43:10.130 --> 00:43:11.080
  • WE HAVE MIKE FARRIS, WHO IS AN
  • 00:43:11.080 --> 00:43:13.000
  • AWESOME SINGER.
  • 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.120
  • WE HAVE BART MILLARD FROM
  • 00:43:15.120 --> 00:43:17.250
  • MERCYME.
  • 00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:20.080
  • WE HAVE JASON CRABB, WHO IS A
  • 00:43:20.080 --> 00:43:22.140
  • WONDERFUL SINGER, COME FROM A
  • 00:43:22.140 --> 00:43:23.290
  • LONG, LONG LINE OF FAMILY
  • 00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:26.180
  • MEMBERS THAT SING, AND THE
  • 00:43:26.180 --> 00:43:28.100
  • INEVITABLE YOLANDA ADAMS, AND SO
  • 00:43:28.100 --> 00:43:29.020
  • IT'S STAR-FILLED.
  • 00:43:29.030 --> 00:43:32.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:43:32.030 --> 00:43:34.160
  • - CLIFTON: AWESOME.
  • 00:43:34.160 --> 00:43:36.060
  • WELL, WHAT A BLESSING.
  • 00:43:36.060 --> 00:43:36.230
  • - GLORIA: IT IS A BLESSING.
  • 00:43:36.230 --> 00:43:38.000
  • - CLIFTON: AND THE COMPOSITIONS
  • 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:38.220
  • ARE ALL WRITTEN BY YOU.
  • 00:43:38.220 --> 00:43:40.010
  • - GLORIA: ALL WRITTEN BY ME AND
  • 00:43:40.010 --> 00:43:41.030
  • CHRIS 'CAUSE HE'S AN AWESOME
  • 00:43:41.250 --> 00:43:44.250
  • WRITER AND A LYRICIST AND
  • 00:43:45.170 --> 00:43:48.170
  • COMPOSER, AND I'M A LYRICIST, SO
  • 00:43:48.170 --> 00:43:50.100
  • WE WORK TOGETHER ON THESE
  • 00:43:50.100 --> 00:43:52.190
  • THINGS, AND IT'S CALLED
  • 00:43:52.190 --> 00:43:54.230
  • "TESTIMONY," BECAUSE IT IS MY
  • 00:43:54.230 --> 00:43:56.160
  • TESTIMONY OF THE WONDERFUL
  • 00:43:56.160 --> 00:43:58.240
  • THINGS THAT THE LORD HAS DONE IN
  • 00:43:58.240 --> 00:44:00.020
  • MY LIFE AND CAN AND WILL DO IN
  • 00:44:00.020 --> 00:44:02.100
  • ANYBODY ELSE'S LIFE WHO IS
  • 00:44:02.100 --> 00:44:03.210
  • WILLING TO COME TO HIM AND
  • 00:44:03.210 --> 00:44:04.280
  • SURRENDER, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.270
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:44:07.270 --> 00:44:09.280
  • - GLORIA: KIND OF A DIFFICULT
  • 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.140
  • THING TO DO SOMETIMES, BUT, OH,
  • 00:44:11.140 --> 00:44:12.170
  • MY GOD, IS IT WORTH IT, AND YOU
  • 00:44:12.170 --> 00:44:14.030
  • REALIZE--
  • 00:44:14.030 --> 00:44:15.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:15.100 --> 00:44:16.040
  • YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK BACK AND
  • 00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:23.260
  • YOU THINK, "WHAT ON GOD'S
  • 00:44:23.260 --> 00:44:24.150
  • GREEN EARTH WAS I THINKING?"
  • 00:44:24.150 --> 00:44:25.280
  • - CLIFTON: OH, HON, HON, I'VE
  • 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:27.250
  • FELT THAT WAY.
  • 00:44:27.250 --> 00:44:28.250
  • - GLORIA: RIGHT?
  • 00:44:28.250 --> 00:44:29.270
  • - CLIFTON: I'VE FELT THAT WAY
  • 00:44:29.270 --> 00:44:30.250
  • SINCE I COME TO KNOWN THE LORD.
  • 00:44:30.250 --> 00:44:32.120
  • - GLORIA: EXACTLY.
  • 00:44:32.120 --> 00:44:32.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:33.260
  • - CLIFTON: "WHAT WAS I
  • 00:44:33.260 --> 00:44:35.000
  • THINKING?"
  • 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:36.090
  • YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE ENEMY WILL
  • 00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:37.110
  • SLIP IN AND MAKE EVEN GOOD
  • 00:44:37.110 --> 00:44:39.190
  • PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO
  • 00:44:39.190 --> 00:44:42.070
  • WHAT'S RIGHT-- SOMEHOW, THEY DO
  • 00:44:42.070 --> 00:44:44.160
  • WRONG.
  • 00:44:44.160 --> 00:44:45.160
  • IN FACT, PAUL TALKED ABOUT IT IN
  • 00:44:45.160 --> 00:44:46.270
  • ROMANS, THE SEVENTH CHAPTER:
  • 00:44:46.270 --> 00:44:48.000
  • "THE GOOD THAT I WOULD DO, I DO
  • 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.090
  • NOT, AND THAT WHICH I WOULD NOT
  • 00:44:50.090 --> 00:44:52.050
  • DO, THAT I DO.
  • 00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:54.050
  • O, WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM.
  • 00:44:54.050 --> 00:44:56.100
  • WHO WILL DELIVER ME FROM THIS?
  • 00:44:56.100 --> 00:44:57.200
  • JESUS CHRIST."
  • 00:44:57.240 --> 00:45:00.260
  • JESUS CHRIST WILL DELIVER ME.
  • 00:45:00.260 --> 00:45:03.160
  • - GLORIA: AND ONLY
  • 00:45:03.160 --> 00:45:04.250
  • JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:45:04.250 --> 00:45:05.090
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:45:05.090 --> 00:45:07.020
  • - CLIFTON: WHERE DID YOU
  • 00:45:07.020 --> 00:45:09.260
  • FIND THE SONGS FOR THIS ALBUM?
  • 00:45:09.260 --> 00:45:12.070
  • - GLORIA: WE WROTE THEM.
  • 00:45:12.070 --> 00:45:13.140
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, NOW, THAT'S
  • 00:45:13.140 --> 00:45:14.130
  • WHAT I WAS TRYIN' TO FIND OUT.
  • 00:45:14.130 --> 00:45:15.260
  • - GLORIA: YES, WE WROTE THEM.
  • 00:45:15.260 --> 00:45:16.210
  • - CLIFTON: YOU COMPOSED ALL OF
  • 00:45:16.210 --> 00:45:17.250
  • THESE SONGS?
  • 00:45:17.250 --> 00:45:18.230
  • SO WHAT WE'VE HEARD ON THE
  • 00:45:18.230 --> 00:45:20.060
  • BROADCAST TONIGHT ARE YOUR
  • 00:45:20.060 --> 00:45:21.040
  • ORIGINAL COMPOSITIONS?
  • 00:45:21.040 --> 00:45:22.120
  • - GLORIA: ORIGINAL
  • 00:45:22.120 --> 00:45:22.280
  • COMPOSITIONS.
  • 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:23.170
  • - CLIFTON: GIVE IT UP!
  • 00:45:23.170 --> 00:45:25.260
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:45:27.040 --> 00:45:30.040
  • - GLORIA: CHRIS STEVENS IS A
  • 00:45:30.040 --> 00:45:30.250
  • WONDERFUL WRITER.
  • 00:45:30.250 --> 00:45:31.240
  • HE'S A WONDERFUL MUSICIAN, AND
  • 00:45:31.260 --> 00:45:34.260
  • SO HE'S DONE ALL THE MUSIC, AND
  • 00:45:34.260 --> 00:45:37.130
  • I'M SIMPLY A LYRICIST, SO HE AND
  • 00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:39.240
  • I WORKED TOGETHER ON THE LYRICS
  • 00:45:39.240 --> 00:45:42.050
  • AND CAME UP WITH THESE SONGS
  • 00:45:42.050 --> 00:45:44.230
  • THAT TELL THE STORY OF MY FAITH
  • 00:45:45.130 --> 00:45:48.130
  • AND HIS FAITH AS WELL, AND WHAT
  • 00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:51.150
  • GOD HAS DONE AND CAN AND WILL DO
  • 00:45:51.150 --> 00:45:52.290
  • IN ANYBODY'S LIFE, AND IT'S JUST
  • 00:45:52.290 --> 00:45:55.270
  • BEEN A WONDERFUL JOURNEY WITH
  • 00:45:55.270 --> 00:45:58.150
  • HIM ON THIS ALBUM.
  • 00:45:58.150 --> 00:46:00.080
  • AND WE HAVE GONE TO A NUMBER OF
  • 00:46:01.030 --> 00:46:04.030
  • RECORD COMPANIES, AND TODAY THE
  • 00:46:05.030 --> 00:46:08.030
  • RECORD BUSINESS IS JUST SO
  • 00:46:08.050 --> 00:46:11.050
  • STRANGE, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW.
  • 00:46:11.050 --> 00:46:13.110
  • IT'S, LIKE, REALLY, REALLY
  • 00:46:13.110 --> 00:46:15.140
  • WEIRD, AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN
  • 00:46:15.230 --> 00:46:18.230
  • WHO HAS WORKED WITH US IN THE
  • 00:46:18.230 --> 00:46:20.190
  • BUSINESS OF THE BUSINESS, CALLED
  • 00:46:20.190 --> 00:46:23.020
  • ME LAST WEEK, AND HE SAID, "YOU
  • 00:46:23.020 --> 00:46:25.100
  • KNOW, GLORIA, LOOKING BACK OVER
  • 00:46:25.100 --> 00:46:27.180
  • YOUR CAREER AND OVER YOUR
  • 00:46:27.180 --> 00:46:29.120
  • TESTIMONY," HE SAID, "I SEE THAT
  • 00:46:29.170 --> 00:46:32.170
  • GOD HAS OFTEN USED UNORTHODOX
  • 00:46:32.170 --> 00:46:34.290
  • WAYS OF GETTING YOU TO WHERE HE
  • 00:46:34.290 --> 00:46:37.290
  • WANTS YOU TO BE WITH YOUR MUSIC
  • 00:46:37.290 --> 00:46:39.150
  • AND YOUR CHRISTIAN LIFE."
  • 00:46:39.150 --> 00:46:40.280
  • HE SAID, "MAYBE THAT'S
  • 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:41.160
  • HIS PLAN NOW,
  • 00:46:41.160 --> 00:46:43.200
  • SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD PRAY
  • 00:46:43.200 --> 00:46:44.240
  • ABOUT IT."
  • 00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:45.100
  • SO LAST SATURDAY, SEVEN PEOPLE
  • 00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:48.200
  • GOT ON THE PHONE WITH ME,
  • 00:46:48.200 --> 00:46:49.220
  • SOME IN CALIFORNIA AND
  • 00:46:49.220 --> 00:46:51.050
  • TEXAS AND--
  • 00:46:51.050 --> 00:46:52.210
  • - CLIFTON: PRAYER CIRCLE,
  • 00:46:52.210 --> 00:46:53.160
  • PRAYER CHAIN.
  • 00:46:53.160 --> 00:46:54.050
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, PRAYER CIRCLE,
  • 00:46:54.050 --> 00:46:56.180
  • AND PRAYED FOR THE LORD'S
  • 00:46:56.180 --> 00:46:58.000
  • GUIDANCE IN WHAT HE WOULD HAVE
  • 00:46:58.000 --> 00:46:59.150
  • ME DO WITH THIS PROJECT SO--
  • 00:46:59.150 --> 00:47:01.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:02.100 --> 00:47:05.100
  • YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT THIS
  • 00:47:05.100 --> 00:47:07.010
  • PROJECT, I JUST WANT THESE
  • 00:47:07.010 --> 00:47:09.280
  • SONGS, THESE WORDS, TO GET TO
  • 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.130
  • WHEREVER HE WANTS THEM TO GO,
  • 00:47:12.130 --> 00:47:13.280
  • AND I KNOW THAT HE WOULD DO
  • 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.160
  • THAT, SO I'M-- YOU KNOW, ONE OF
  • 00:47:15.160 --> 00:47:18.010
  • THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING ABOUT
  • 00:47:18.090 --> 00:47:21.090
  • OUR LORD IS THAT HE IS NEVER IN
  • 00:47:21.090 --> 00:47:22.080
  • A HURRY 'CAUSE HE LITERALLY HAS
  • 00:47:22.080 --> 00:47:23.160
  • ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD SO--
  • 00:47:23.160 --> 00:47:24.290
  • - CLIFTON: YES, HE DOES.
  • 00:47:24.290 --> 00:47:25.260
  • - GLORIA: HE TOLD ME--
  • 00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:27.030
  • SENT ME TO THESSALONIANS
  • 00:47:27.030 --> 00:47:29.260
  • AND SAID, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:30.120
  • "YOU HAVE NEED OF PATIENCE."
  • 00:47:30.120 --> 00:47:32.280
  • SO I'M BEING PATIENT
  • 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.150
  • AND JUST LETTING HIM SET THINGS
  • 00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:37.030
  • UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU LET
  • 00:47:37.030 --> 00:47:38.240
  • HIM SET THINGS UP AND YOU LET
  • 00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:40.080
  • HIM DO IT, NOTHING COULD BE
  • 00:47:40.080 --> 00:47:41.120
  • BETTER.
  • 00:47:41.140 --> 00:47:44.140
  • NOTHING COULD BE BETTER SO--
  • 00:47:44.140 --> 00:47:45.200
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, I SAW A
  • 00:47:45.200 --> 00:47:48.150
  • PICTURE OF YOU AND I,
  • 00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:52.040
  • TAKEN MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
  • 00:47:52.130 --> 00:47:55.130
  • DID THEY HAVE A COPY OF IT?
  • 00:47:55.130 --> 00:47:57.020
  • DID YOU GUYS-- YES!
  • 00:47:57.020 --> 00:47:58.260
  • BECAUSE, BACK IN THE DAY, OUR
  • 00:47:58.260 --> 00:48:00.110
  • CAREERS WERE TAKIN' OFF, YOU
  • 00:48:00.110 --> 00:48:02.240
  • KNOW.
  • 00:48:02.240 --> 00:48:04.180
  • I WAS THE HOT YOUNG TELEVISION
  • 00:48:04.180 --> 00:48:07.000
  • AND BROADWAY STAR, AND YOU WERE
  • 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.010
  • A HOT RECORDING ARTIST, AND
  • 00:48:08.010 --> 00:48:09.250
  • EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING GREAT,
  • 00:48:10.140 --> 00:48:13.140
  • AND THEN THE PATHWAYS TURNED,
  • 00:48:14.030 --> 00:48:17.030
  • AND THE POTHOLES AND THE
  • 00:48:17.030 --> 00:48:19.030
  • PITFALLS CAME INTO THE PATHWAY,
  • 00:48:19.080 --> 00:48:22.080
  • AND I STUMBLED IN A BIG WAY, AND
  • 00:48:24.050 --> 00:48:27.050
  • YOU HAD TO COME TO KNOW THE
  • 00:48:27.050 --> 00:48:28.190
  • LORD, AND I CAME TO KNOW THE
  • 00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:31.160
  • LORD IN 1980, '81, AND I HAD--
  • 00:48:31.160 --> 00:48:33.000
  • THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO COPE WITH
  • 00:48:35.270 --> 00:48:38.270
  • ALL THE ADDICTIONS AND MADNESS
  • 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:41.280
  • THAT I HAD INSIDE OF ME WAS TO
  • 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.160
  • WALK AWAY FROM EVERYTHING.
  • 00:48:45.140 --> 00:48:48.140
  • I HAD TO WALK AWAY FROM
  • 00:48:48.140 --> 00:48:49.160
  • EVERYTHING FOR A MINUTE UNTIL
  • 00:48:49.160 --> 00:48:50.160
  • THE LORD SAID, "COME BACK," AND
  • 00:48:50.160 --> 00:48:52.270
  • HE BROUGHT ME BACK, DOING A SHOW
  • 00:48:52.270 --> 00:48:54.170
  • CALLED "AMEN," WHERE I COULD
  • 00:48:54.170 --> 00:48:55.210
  • MINISTER.
  • 00:48:55.210 --> 00:48:57.240
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:48:57.240 --> 00:48:59.190
  • - GLORIA: I REMEMBER WELL.
  • 00:49:00.100 --> 00:49:03.100
  • - CLIFTON: AND I JUST THINK
  • 00:49:03.100 --> 00:49:04.010
  • IT'S A WONDERFUL THING THAT YOU
  • 00:49:04.120 --> 00:49:07.120
  • ONLY TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF TO
  • 00:49:08.090 --> 00:49:11.090
  • COME AROUND TO GET TO THE PLACE
  • 00:49:11.090 --> 00:49:12.190
  • WHERE GOD COULD USE YOU IN THE
  • 00:49:12.190 --> 00:49:13.120
  • WAY THAT HE COULD USE YOU, DOING
  • 00:49:13.120 --> 00:49:14.150
  • WHAT YOU HAD BEEN DOING BEFORE,
  • 00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:16.150
  • BUT WITH HIS PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:49:16.150 --> 00:49:18.130
  • - GLORIA: YES, YES.
  • 00:49:18.130 --> 00:49:19.180
  • - CLIFTON: IT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:49:19.180 --> 00:49:21.070
  • - GLORIA: YOU KNOW, MEN ARE
  • 00:49:21.070 --> 00:49:22.140
  • MORE DIFFICULT MORE THAN WOMEN,
  • 00:49:22.140 --> 00:49:23.170
  • AND YOU WANNA KNOW SOMETHING?
  • 00:49:23.170 --> 00:49:24.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:24.080 --> 00:49:24.190
  • I THINK--
  • 00:49:24.190 --> 00:49:26.040
  • - CLIFTON: OH, TELL IT!
  • 00:49:26.040 --> 00:49:26.220
  • - GLORIA: I KNOW YOU THINK IT'S
  • 00:49:26.220 --> 00:49:27.140
  • THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
  • 00:49:27.140 --> 00:49:28.100
  • - CLIFTON: OH, I'M NOT WOUNDED.
  • 00:49:28.100 --> 00:49:29.160
  • SHE'S TELLIN' THE TRUTH.
  • 00:49:29.160 --> 00:49:30.040
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:30.040 --> 00:49:31.000
  • - GLORIA: BUT I TELL YOU
  • 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:32.140
  • WHAT, I REALLY BELIEVE--
  • 00:49:32.140 --> 00:49:33.160
  • AND I HAVE NO BASIS
  • 00:49:33.160 --> 00:49:36.090
  • FOR THIS BELIEF, OKAY?
  • 00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:36.260
  • MAYBE INTUITION.
  • 00:49:36.260 --> 00:49:39.120
  • I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IN
  • 00:49:39.120 --> 00:49:41.080
  • SOMEWHERE IN THE DNA OF A MAN,
  • 00:49:41.080 --> 00:49:43.070
  • EVERY MAN, THAT HE KNOWS HE'S
  • 00:49:43.070 --> 00:49:46.050
  • SUPPOSED TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE
  • 00:49:46.050 --> 00:49:48.100
  • FATHER AND HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS
  • 00:49:48.100 --> 00:49:49.130
  • FIRSTHAND.
  • 00:49:49.130 --> 00:49:51.230
  • - CLIFTON: MM, HMM.
  • 00:49:51.230 --> 00:49:52.240
  • - GLORIA: YEAH, I THINK
  • 00:49:52.240 --> 00:49:54.000
  • THAT'S--
  • 00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:54.200
  • - CLIFTON: WELL, IT TOOK ME--
  • 00:49:54.200 --> 00:49:55.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:49:55.110 --> 00:49:55.290
  • - GLORIA: NO, I REALLY THINK
  • 00:49:55.290 --> 00:49:56.260
  • THAT THEY HAVE THAT, AND SO
  • 00:49:56.260 --> 00:49:58.090
  • THEY, INSTINCTIVELY, THEY KNOW
  • 00:49:58.090 --> 00:50:00.260
  • THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE
  • 00:50:00.260 --> 00:50:02.100
  • ANSWERS,
  • 00:50:02.100 --> 00:50:03.050
  • AND SO THEY ACT LIKE THEY HAVE
  • 00:50:03.050 --> 00:50:04.110
  • 'EM.
  • 00:50:04.110 --> 00:50:05.010
  • THEY DON'T.
  • 00:50:05.010 --> 00:50:05.230
  • - CLIFTON: THEY DON'T.
  • 00:50:05.230 --> 00:50:06.200
  • - GLORIA: BUT THEY ACT LIKE
  • 00:50:06.200 --> 00:50:07.100
  • THEY DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO
  • 00:50:07.100 --> 00:50:08.250
  • GET TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY
  • 00:50:08.250 --> 00:50:10.100
  • KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:50:10.100 --> 00:50:11.210
  • TO GET THE ANSWERS FROM.
  • 00:50:11.210 --> 00:50:12.280
  • - CLIFTON: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:13.240
  • THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 00:50:13.240 --> 00:50:14.250
  • WOULD YOU TAKE A MOMENT AND LOOK
  • 00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:16.210
  • INTO THAT CAMERA RIGHT THERE AND
  • 00:50:16.210 --> 00:50:18.030
  • TELL SOMEBODY HOW IMPORTANT IT
  • 00:50:18.030 --> 00:50:19.280
  • IS TO GET TO KNOW THE LORD AND
  • 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.180
  • TO SURVIVE.
  • 00:50:21.180 --> 00:50:23.070
  • - GLORIA: "I WILL SURVIVE" IS
  • 00:50:23.070 --> 00:50:25.070
  • THE NAME OF MY SONG, BUT I KNOW
  • 00:50:25.070 --> 00:50:27.230
  • NOW THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT THOSE
  • 00:50:29.050 --> 00:50:32.050
  • WORDS ARE MORE THAN A CATCH
  • 00:50:32.250 --> 00:50:35.250
  • PHRASE IS IF YOU GET TO KNOW THE
  • 00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:39.280
  • LORD JESUS CHRIST, IF YOU ALLOW
  • 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.000
  • HIM INTO YOUR HEART AND ALLOW
  • 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:44.260
  • HIM TO BRING OUT OF YOU ALL OF
  • 00:50:45.260 --> 00:50:48.260
  • THE GIFTS, TALENTS, ABILITIES
  • 00:50:48.260 --> 00:50:50.220
  • THAT HE HAS PLACED WITHIN YOU.
  • 00:50:51.120 --> 00:50:54.120
  • YOU WILL NEVER REGRET IT.
  • 00:50:54.120 --> 00:50:57.070
  • YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK, AND
  • 00:50:57.070 --> 00:50:59.010
  • YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A BETTER
  • 00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:00.210
  • LIFE.
  • 00:51:00.210 --> 00:51:02.100
  • HE IS AWESOME.
  • 00:51:03.190 --> 00:51:06.190
  • IF YOU DON'T KNOW JESUS, YOU
  • 00:51:06.190 --> 00:51:07.230
  • DON'T KNOW AWESOME.
  • 00:51:07.230 --> 00:51:10.200
  • - CLIFTON: PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:12.100
  • THANK YOU, GLORIA GAYNOR.
  • 00:51:13.060 --> 00:51:16.060
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:51:16.060 --> 00:51:18.030
  • MMWAH!
  • 00:51:18.080 --> 00:51:21.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:51:21.080 --> 00:51:22.210
  • I'M SORRY MY WIFE WASN'T HERE
  • 00:51:22.210 --> 00:51:24.020
  • TONIGHT TO MEET YOU,
  • 00:51:24.080 --> 00:51:27.080
  • BUT WE'LL BRING MONICA TO MEET
  • 00:51:27.080 --> 00:51:28.040
  • YOU AT ANOTHER TIME.
  • 00:51:28.040 --> 00:51:29.220
  • - GLORIA: THAT'D BE AWESOME.
  • 00:51:29.220 --> 00:51:30.130
  • - CLIFTON: I'VE GOT TO SAY
  • 00:51:31.140 --> 00:51:34.140
  • THIS: I'M EXCITED TO JUST BE ON
  • 00:51:34.140 --> 00:51:37.060
  • THIS STAGE, IN THIS THEATER AT
  • 00:51:37.060 --> 00:51:39.160
  • TBN, WITH GLORIA GAYNOR.
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  • IT'S A REAL BLESSING.
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  • GOD BLESS YOU.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
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  • - CLIFTON: MMWAH.
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  • - GLORIA: BLESS YOU.
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  • - CLIFTON: AND WE GET THE
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  • BLESSING OF GETTING TO HEAR HER
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  • SING AGAIN.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • PLEASE WELCOME GLORIA GAYNOR
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  • SINGING,
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  • "SINGING OVER ME."
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - GLORIA: SOMETIMES, WE GET A
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  • LITTLE BIT CONCERNED.
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  • WE HAVE PROBLEMS.
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  • WE WONDER IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO
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  • KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
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  • MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT DOWN
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  • ABOUT IT, BUT GOD IS ALWAYS
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  • SINGIN' OVER YOU.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • TELL ME THAT YOU FEEL A
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  • TELL ME THAT YOU'RE ALL USED
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  • UP
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  • YOU'RE LOOKIN' FOR A LITTLE
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  • SALVATION,
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  • JUST A DROP IN AN EMPTY CUP
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  • MM, I REMEMBER THAT SONG USED
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  • TO BE THE SOUNDTRACK
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  • OF MY LIFE,
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  • BUT GOD'S GIVEN ME A WHOLE NW
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  • MELODY, TELLIN' ME IT'S GONNA
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  • BE ALL RIGHT
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  • I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY
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  • I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
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  • WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT AL,
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  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
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  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M FORGIVEN
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  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M REDEEMED
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  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
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  • ALL,
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  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME,
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  • SINGIN' OVER ME, SINGIN' OVER
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  • ME
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  • OOH, HOO, OOH-OOH, OOH, HOO
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  • I USED TO THINK THAT
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  • EVERYTHING WAS HOPELESS,
  • 00:53:37.010 --> 00:53:38.090
  • USED TO THINK THAT I WAS
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  • ON MY OWN,
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  • TILL THE GOD OF ALL CREATION
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  • MADE MY HEART HIS HOME,
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  • AND NOW I SING
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  • I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY
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  • I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
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  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
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  • ALL,
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  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
  • 00:53:57.030 --> 00:53:59.040
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M FORGIVEN
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  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M REDEEMED
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  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
  • 00:54:04.130 --> 00:54:07.020
  • ALL,
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  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
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  • AIN'T NO SORROW,
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  • AIN'T NO SIN
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  • YOU CAN'T CONQUER
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  • THERE'S NO BROKEN THAT HE
  • 00:54:17.130 --> 00:54:18.170
  • CAN'T MEND
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  • I'M TELLIN' YOU, AIN'T NO
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  • WORRY,
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  • AIN'T NO SHAME
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  • THERE'S NO CONDEMNATION IN HS
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  • NAME
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  • SO I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY,
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  • AND I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
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  • SO WON'T YOU SING WITH ME?
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  • I SING BECAUSE I'M HAPPY
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  • I SING BECAUSE I'M FREE
  • 00:54:47.140 --> 00:54:50.120
  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
  • 00:54:50.120 --> 00:54:52.260
  • ALL,
  • 00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:54.110
  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME
  • 00:54:54.110 --> 00:54:56.290
  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M FORGIVEN
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  • I SING 'CAUSE I'M REDEEMED
  • 00:55:00.090 --> 00:55:03.000
  • AND WHEN I JUST CAN'T SING AT
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  • ALL,
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  • HE'S STILL SINGIN' OVER ME,
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  • SINGIN' OVER ME,
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  • YEAH-YEAH
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  • HE'S SINGIN' OVER ME, MY LOR,
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  • OH, YEAH, HE'S SINGIN' OVER
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  • ME,
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  • SINGIN' OVER ME,
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  • SINGIN' OVER ME,
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  • YEAH, SINGIN' BLESSINGS OVER
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  • - GLORIA: THANK YOU.
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  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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  • GOD BLESS YOU.
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