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Praise | September 25, 2017

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September 25, 2017
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Phil Munsey hosts Toure & Sarah Jakes Roberts.

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Praise | September 25, 2017

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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: COMING UP
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  • ON "PRAISE":
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  • - PHIL MUNSEY: IMAGINE A 16-
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  • YEAR-OLD YOUNG MAN, LAYING ON
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  • THE STREETS OF LOS ANGELES.
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  • HE'S JUST BEEN SHOT.
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  • HOW 'BOUT A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG
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  • LADY?
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  • SHE'S 13 YEARS OLD.
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  • SHE'S PART OF ONE OF THE MOST
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  • INFLUENTIAL MINISTRIES IN THE
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  • WORLD.
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  • SHE'S PREGNANT.
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  • IT'S OVER.
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  • IT'S DONE.
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  • MAYBE YOU FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT
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  • YOUR LIFE.
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  • IS THERE HOPE?
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  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: JOIN
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  • PASTOR PHIL MUNSEY AS HE
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  • UNCOVERS GOD'S DESIRE FOR HOPE
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  • AND REDEMPTION IN OUR LIVES
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  • WITH PASTORS OF ONE L.A. --
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  • TOURÉ AND SARAH JAKES ROBERTS.
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  • - PHIL: HEY.
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  • I LOVE THIS ENERGY IN THE CROWD
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  • HERE TONIGHT.
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  • UH, I'M PHIL MUNSEY AND WHAT A
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  • GREAT JOY IT IS TO BE RIGHT
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  • HERE AT TBN "PRAISE" ON BEHALF
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  • OF MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH.
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  • TONIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO
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  • THE STORIES OF TWO OF MY DEAR
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  • THEIR STORY'S AMAZING.
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  • YOU'RE IN THE STORY.
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  • I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE A
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  • 16-YEAR-OLD YOUNG MAN.
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  • HE'S LAYIN' ON THE STREETS OF
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  • WATTS, LOS ANGELES.
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  • HE'S JUST BEEN SHOT.
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  • IS THERE HOPE?
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  • HE'S SECONDS AWAY FROM DYING.
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  • HOW 'BOUT A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG
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  • LADY?
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  • SHE'S 13 YEARS OLD.
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  • SHE'S A PART OF ONE OF THE MOST
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  • POPULAR AND INFLUENTIAL
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  • MINISTRIES IN THE WORLD.
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  • SHE'S PREGNANT.
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  • THESE ARE TWO STORIES OF LIVES
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  • THAT WOULD APPEAR AS IF IT'S
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  • OVER, IT'S DONE.
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  • MAYBE YOU FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT
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  • YOUR LIFE.
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  • TONIGHT, WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU
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  • UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A
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  • DESTINY THAT BEFORE YOU WERE IN
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  • YOUR MOTHER'S WOMB GOD HAS
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  • ALREADY WROTE THE SCRIPT.
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  • YOU'RE JUST DOING THE MOVIE
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  • VERSION.
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  • AND NO MATTER WHAT IT LOOKS
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  • LIKE NOW, WE'VE COME TO TELL
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  • YOU TONIGHT YOUR DESTINY IS NOT
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  • GOING ANYWHERE WITHOUT YOU.
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  • TONIGHT, AS WE TALK TO PASTOR
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  • TOURÉ AND SARAH JAKES ROBERTS,
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  • PASTORS OF THE DENVER POTTER'S
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  • HOUSE AND POTTER'S HOUSE ONE
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  • CHURCH, L.A., YOU ARE GOING TO
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  • BE MOTIVATED, YOU'RE GONNA BE
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  • STIRRED.
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  • AND BEFORE THIS NIGHT IS
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  • OVER-- WE'RE DETERMINED, AREN'T
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  • WE?
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  • - SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: YEAH.
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  • - PHIL: THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA
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  • FIND THEIR DESTINY AND WE'RE
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  • GONNA SEE GOD DO SOMETHING.
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  • IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO HAVE YOU
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  • GUYS HERE TONIGHT.
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  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: GREAT TO BE
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  • HERE.
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  • - SARAH: ABSOLUTELY.
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  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AWESOME.
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  • - PHIL: WE'RE GONNA GET INTO
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  • THEIR INCREDIBLE STORIES.
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  • CHECK OUT OUR SPECIAL GUESTS
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  • TONIGHT.
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  • THANK YOU.
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  • - SARAH: YOU'VE GOTTA STOP
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  • LOOKING THROUGH THE LENSES OF
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  • THE THINGS THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT
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  • AND THE DISAPPOINTMENTS THAT
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  • DIDN'T WORK OUT AND START
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  • BEGINNING TO BELIEVE THAT GOD
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  • CREATED YOU FOR SUCH A TIME AS
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  • THIS, THAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY
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  • FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE.
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  • YOU'VE GOTTA START BELIEVING ON
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  • GOD SAID: IF YOU WOULD ELEVATE
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  • YOUR PERSPECTIVE, I COULD DO
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  • EXCEEDINGLY AND ABUNDANTLY
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  • ABOVE ALL THAT YOU MAY ASK OR
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  • THINK.
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  • THE PROBLEM WITH MOST OF
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  • US...WHO HAVE THESE ISSUES...IS
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  • THAT WE THINK TOO LOW OF
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  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: IF YOU ARE
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  • SAVED, IF YOU HAVE EMBRACED
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  • JESUS, HE DIDN'T JUST EMBRACE
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  • YOU AND SAVE YOU...FOR YOU TO
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  • BE A CUTE LITTLE CHRISTIAN, BUT
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  • HE'S CALLED YOU TO BE A KING,
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  • WHICH MEANS THAT HE HAS GIVEN
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  • YOU AUTHORITY.
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  • AND IT'S HIS AUTHORITY.
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  • BUT NOT ONLY THAT.
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  • BUT HE'S GIVEN YOU A LANE.
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  • AND IF YOU KNEW LIKE I KNEW,
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  • YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IF YOU FIND
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  • YOUR LANE, THERE'S NO ONE WHO
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  • - PHIL: I FEEL TONIGHT
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  • A BIT LIKE JESUS DID
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  • OF THE NIGHT OF THE LAST
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  • SUPPER, WHERE HE SAID: I HAVE
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  • LONGED FOR THIS NIGHT.
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  • I'M NOT GETTING IT TOTALLY
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  • RIGHT, BUT I HAVE LONGED FOR
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  • THIS NIGHT.
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  • I LOVE THESE DEAR FRIENDS THAT
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  • I'M ABOUT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU
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  • TODAY.
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  • I HAVE WATCHED THEIR LIVES AND
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  • WATCHED WHAT JESUS IS DOING IN
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  • THEIR LIVES AND IT HAS INSPIRED
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  • ME GREATLY.
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  • THAT TAKES QUITE A BIT.
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  • I'M 61 YEARS OLD AND HAVE BEEN
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  • IN THIS ALL OF MY LIFE.
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  • AND I'VE SEEN A LOT, AND, UH,
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  • IT BRINGS GREAT INSPIRATION TO
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  • KNOW THE LIFE AND STORY OF MY
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  • FRIENDS AND GUESTS.
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  • WELCOME.
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  • I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
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  • - SARAH: AWESOME TO BE HERE.
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  • - PHIL: THIS IS PHENOMENAL.
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  • LIVE AND IN PERSON RIGHT HERE.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - SARAH: YES.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - PHIL: SO...IT IS QUITE
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  • AMAZING.
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  • I FIRST MET YOU, PASTOR TOURÉ,
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  • ACTUALLY ON THE SET OF TBN...
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  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YES.
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  • - PHIL: ...BACK IN THE DAY.
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  • UNH...I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO
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  • IT WAS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD
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  • COME AND HOST AND I WOULD MEET
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  • THE GUESTS FOR THE FIRST TIME
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  • RIGHT THERE ON THE SET.
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  • AND, UH, AS I WAS TALKING TO
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  • YOU, I HEARD THE VOICE OF THE
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  • LORD SAY TO ME: I WANT YOU TO
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  • PROTECT AND PROJECT THIS MAN'S
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  • GIFT.
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  • AND, WHAT A JOURNEY IT'S BEEN
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  • AND A DELIGHTFUL JOY TO WATCH
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  • GOD JUST CONTINUE TO OPEN UP
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  • DOORS AND ELEVATE YOUR GIFT TO
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  • THE WORLD.
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  • IN FACT, I GOTTA TELL YOU -- I
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  • DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS,
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  • BUT I WAS HAVING LUNCH WITH
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  • PASTOR JOEL AND YOUR FATHER,
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  • BISHOP JAKES.
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  • AND THIS IS WHEN YOU GUYS WERE
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  • JUST FIRST MEETING.
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  • AND, UH, I SAID THAT I KNEW
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  • YOU.
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  • AND HE SAID:
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  • [MIMICS BISHOP JAKES]
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  • "TELL ME ABOUT HIM."
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • AND, UH, I SAID, JUST SIMPLY,
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  • "HE'S A GIFT."
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  • - SARAH: MM-HMM.
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  • - PHIL: AND, I THINK THAT,
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  • UH-- AND HE-- I REMEMBER HIM
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  • JUST KINDA, "OKAY..."
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • AND, UH, YOU BOTH ARE.
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  • AND YOU ARE A GIFT.
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  • AND, TODAY, I HOPE THAT THAT
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  • GIFT CAN KIND OF JUST UNFOLD
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  • AND BE A PART OF HELPING OUR
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  • AUDIENCE TODAY.
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  • SO, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
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  • ONE CHURCH, L.A. -- AND
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  • ACTUALLY THAT NAME HAS CHANGED
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  • -- AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON
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  • IN BOTH OF YOU.
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  • WELL, ONE CHURCH L.A. IS A
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  • CHURCH THAT WE PLANTED AND IT'S
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  • GROWN.
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  • AND, IT'S KINDA INTERESTING --
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  • YOU MENTIONED THE NAME
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  • CHANGING.
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  • WHEN SARAH AND I GOT TOGETHER,
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  • ALTHOUGH WE FELL IN LOVE AND IT
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  • WAS JUST ABOUT PURE LOVE -- WE
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  • DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW HOW
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  • MUCH DESTINY WAS ON IT -- BUT
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  • AND IT WAS THE STREAM THAT I
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  • HAD CULTIVATED AND THE STREAM
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  • THAT HAD BEEN CULTIVATED IN HER
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  • LIFE THROUGH BISHOP JAKES.
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  • AND SO, WE HAD, UH-- HE BECAME
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  • NOT ONLY MY FATHER-IN-LAW BUT
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  • MY SPIRITUAL FATHER AND
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  • DEPOSITED GREATLY INTO ME AND
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  • SHAPED ME IN WAYS THAT I COULD
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  • HAVE NEVER EVEN PRAYED FOR.
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  • AND, WE HAD KINDA TALKED ABOUT
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  • ONE CHURCH BECOMING A PART OF
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  • THE POTTER'S HOUSE, BUT
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  • NEVER-- WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE
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  • SOMETHING THAT WAS FORCED.
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  • WE WANTED IT TO BE ORGANIC AND
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  • TIMED PROPERLY.
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  • AND SO, RECENTLY, ONE CHURCH
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  • L.A. BECAME THE POTTER'S HOUSE
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  • AT ONE L.A. AND IT'S JUST BEEN
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  • AN INCREDIBLE RIDE SO FAR.
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  • - PHIL: FANTASTIC.
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  • SO, NOW-- AND THEN, WITH DENVER.
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  • SO, TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING.
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  • YOU'RE NOW PASTORING TWO
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  • CHURCHES IN TWO LOCATIONS.
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  • HOW BIZARRE AND WONDERFUL IS
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  • THAT?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - SARAH: IT'S BEEN SUCH AN
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  • INCREDIBLE BLESSING THAT GOD
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  • WOULD ALLOW FOR OUR GIFT TO
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  • EXPAND INTO A NEW TERRITORY.
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  • BUT, ULTIMATELY, THE KINGDOM IS
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  • AND IT'S BEEN SUCH AN HONOR TO
  • 00:07:33.220 --> 00:07:34.290
  • HAVE OUR FAMILY EXTEND TO
  • 00:07:34.290 --> 00:07:35.180
  • INCLUDE THE POTTER'S HOUSE
  • 00:07:35.180 --> 00:07:37.010
  • DENVER.
  • 00:07:37.010 --> 00:07:37.140
  • IT'S AN INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY,
  • 00:07:37.140 --> 00:07:39.050
  • AN INCREDIBLE CHURCH THERE.
  • 00:07:39.050 --> 00:07:39.250
  • AND SO, WE'RE STRADDLING BOTH
  • 00:07:39.250 --> 00:07:41.220
  • DENVER AND LOS ANGELES WITH SO
  • 00:07:41.220 --> 00:07:43.020
  • MUCH JOY AND SO MUCH PRIDE.
  • 00:07:43.020 --> 00:07:45.190
  • AND WE'VE JUST RECEIVED SO MUCH
  • 00:07:45.190 --> 00:07:47.250
  • SUPPORT AND LOVE FROM BOTH OF
  • 00:07:47.250 --> 00:07:48.160
  • OUR CHURCH FAMILIES.
  • 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.130
  • IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE
  • 00:07:50.130 --> 00:07:51.010
  • TRANSITION.
  • 00:07:51.010 --> 00:07:52.280
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: IT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:07:52.280 --> 00:07:53.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:07:53.220 --> 00:07:54.140
  • I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
  • 00:07:56.170 --> 00:07:57.080
  • TO BE AT DENVER POTTER'S HOUSE,
  • 00:07:57.080 --> 00:07:58.000
  • BUT I LOVE POTTER'S HOUSE ONE
  • 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:58.210
  • CHURCH L.A.
  • 00:07:59.030 --> 00:08:02.050
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:08:02.050 --> 00:08:02.270
  • - PHIL: THEY, UH...THEY CALL
  • 00:08:02.270 --> 00:08:04.000
  • ME UNCLE PHIL THERE.
  • 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:04.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:08:04.280 --> 00:08:05.200
  • AND I...I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT
  • 00:08:05.200 --> 00:08:06.110
  • GOT STARTED, BUT I'LL TAKE IT.
  • 00:08:06.110 --> 00:08:07.040
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:08.060
  • IT'S A GREAT JOY.
  • 00:08:08.060 --> 00:08:08.210
  • RECENTLY, I WAS AT A CHURCH
  • 00:08:08.210 --> 00:08:11.070
  • AND ONE OF THE SECURITY
  • 00:08:11.070 --> 00:08:13.150
  • PERSONNEL TOLD ME A STORY THAT
  • 00:08:13.150 --> 00:08:15.250
  • ABSOLUTELY STUNNED ME AND MOVED
  • 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:16.170
  • ME DEEPLY.
  • 00:08:17.200 --> 00:08:20.200
  • IT WAS A STORY ABOUT HE WAS
  • 00:08:20.200 --> 00:08:21.150
  • FORMERLY A POLICE OFFICER.
  • 00:08:22.150 --> 00:08:25.150
  • AND, UH, YEARS AGO, HE GOT A
  • 00:08:25.150 --> 00:08:27.010
  • REPORT THAT THERE WAS A
  • 00:08:27.010 --> 00:08:27.240
  • DRIVE-BY, GANG-RELATED
  • 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.190
  • SHOOTING.
  • 00:08:30.190 --> 00:08:31.090
  • AND, OF COURSE, THEY RUSHED TO
  • 00:08:31.090 --> 00:08:32.230
  • THE SCENE, AND, SURE ENOUGH, A
  • 00:08:32.230 --> 00:08:33.140
  • YOUNG MAN, ABOUT 16 YEARS OLD,
  • 00:08:33.140 --> 00:08:34.270
  • ON THE STREETS IN WATTS, LOS
  • 00:08:34.270 --> 00:08:36.040
  • ANGELES, DYING.
  • 00:08:36.040 --> 00:08:38.250
  • AND HE GOT DOWN ON HIS KNEES
  • 00:08:38.250 --> 00:08:41.240
  • AND HE SAID: "LITTLE BRO, DON'T
  • 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:42.280
  • DIE.
  • 00:08:42.280 --> 00:08:45.010
  • YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT."
  • 00:08:45.010 --> 00:08:46.100
  • AND, UH, AS HE TOLD ME THE
  • 00:08:46.100 --> 00:08:49.100
  • STORY, I-- I WAS-- YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:50.030
  • WAS INTRIGUED.
  • 00:08:50.030 --> 00:08:52.130
  • LATER ON, THIS SAME POLICE
  • 00:08:52.130 --> 00:08:54.290
  • OFFICER WOULD LOSE HIS OWN
  • 00:08:54.290 --> 00:08:55.180
  • SON...
  • 00:08:55.180 --> 00:08:56.270
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:08:56.270 --> 00:08:57.210
  • - PHIL: ...THROUGH A TRAGIC
  • 00:08:57.210 --> 00:08:58.110
  • DEATH OF A GANG SHOOTING.
  • 00:08:58.110 --> 00:08:59.210
  • UH...BUT THEN, THE STORY TOOK
  • 00:08:59.210 --> 00:09:02.180
  • AN INCREDIBLE TWIST AND MOVED
  • 00:09:02.180 --> 00:09:05.020
  • ME TO TEARS WHEN HE SAID,
  • 00:09:05.020 --> 00:09:06.190
  • "THAT YOUNG MAN HAS GROWN AND
  • 00:09:06.190 --> 00:09:09.090
  • HOW HE IS MY PASTOR."
  • 00:09:09.170 --> 00:09:12.170
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:09:12.170 --> 00:09:13.070
  • - PHIL: AND THAT PASTOR IS
  • 00:09:13.070 --> 00:09:13.270
  • YOU.
  • 00:09:13.270 --> 00:09:14.150
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:09:14.150 --> 00:09:16.160
  • - PHIL: AND, I WAS JUST
  • 00:09:16.160 --> 00:09:17.040
  • STUNNED--
  • 00:09:17.040 --> 00:09:19.050
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:09:19.050 --> 00:09:19.250
  • - PHIL: --THAT THIS, YOUR
  • 00:09:19.250 --> 00:09:20.170
  • STORY, BEGINS AT DEATH AND THE
  • 00:09:20.170 --> 00:09:22.030
  • LIFE THAT YOU HAVE AND ARE
  • 00:09:22.030 --> 00:09:24.050
  • GIVING TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
  • 00:09:24.050 --> 00:09:24.240
  • WOW.
  • 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:25.130
  • AMAZING.
  • 00:09:25.130 --> 00:09:26.100
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: IT'S
  • 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:27.030
  • INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:09:27.030 --> 00:09:27.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:28.100
  • IT'S INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:29.000
  • YEAH.
  • 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:30.160
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:09:30.160 --> 00:09:32.100
  • YEAH, FROM--
  • 00:09:32.100 --> 00:09:33.070
  • IT'S JUST-- FOR ME, IT'S JUST A
  • 00:09:33.130 --> 00:09:36.130
  • TESTIMONY OF WHAT WAS ON MY
  • 00:09:36.130 --> 00:09:38.190
  • LIFE AT THE TIME AND HOW THE
  • 00:09:38.190 --> 00:09:40.250
  • ENEMY WANTED TO SNUFF OUT MY
  • 00:09:40.250 --> 00:09:43.080
  • POTENTIAL AND MY PURPOSE.
  • 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.100
  • BUT GOD PUT HIS HAND UP AND
  • 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:47.070
  • SAID: NOT TODAY.
  • 00:09:47.070 --> 00:09:48.120
  • - SARAH: MMH.
  • 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:48.280
  • - PHIL: TCHOOOH....
  • 00:09:48.280 --> 00:09:49.240
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND, NOT ONLY
  • 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:50.180
  • THAT, BUT HAVING OFFICER BROWN
  • 00:09:50.180 --> 00:09:51.260
  • BE REALLY SOMEONE WHO SPOKE
  • 00:09:52.070 --> 00:09:55.070
  • LIFE TO ME IN A MOMENT WHERE I
  • 00:09:55.070 --> 00:09:56.220
  • DIDN'T THINK THAT I WAS GONNA
  • 00:09:56.220 --> 00:09:58.050
  • MAKE IT.
  • 00:09:58.050 --> 00:09:58.190
  • UM, I-- I CALLED ON GOD AND I
  • 00:09:58.190 --> 00:10:00.060
  • SAID: GOD, YOU KNOW, FORGIVE ME
  • 00:10:00.060 --> 00:10:01.210
  • FOR EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DONE
  • 00:10:01.210 --> 00:10:02.290
  • WRONG.
  • 00:10:02.290 --> 00:10:03.250
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:10:03.250 --> 00:10:04.090
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND, UH...AND
  • 00:10:04.090 --> 00:10:05.180
  • AND, UH...BUT WHEN OFFICER
  • 00:10:08.060 --> 00:10:09.100
  • BROWN KNEELED DOWN, GRABBED MY
  • 00:10:09.100 --> 00:10:11.250
  • HAND, I FELT THIS WARMTH.
  • 00:10:11.250 --> 00:10:13.040
  • AND IT WAS LIKE IT WASN'T EVEN
  • 00:10:13.040 --> 00:10:14.090
  • A HUMAN.
  • 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:15.200
  • HE WAS LIKE-- LIKE AN ANGEL.
  • 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:16.210
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:10:16.210 --> 00:10:17.250
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND WHEN HE
  • 00:10:17.250 --> 00:10:18.180
  • SPOKE THOSE WORDS OF LIFE INTO
  • 00:10:18.180 --> 00:10:19.140
  • ME, "YOU'RE NOT GONNA DIE,
  • 00:10:19.140 --> 00:10:21.150
  • YOU'RE GONNA LIVE, YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:10:21.150 --> 00:10:22.070
  • BE FINE," THAT WAS THE FIRST
  • 00:10:22.070 --> 00:10:24.070
  • TIME, IN THAT MOMENT, THAT I
  • 00:10:24.070 --> 00:10:25.110
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:10:27.180 --> 00:10:29.230
  • AND THAT IS THE MANDATE, YOUR
  • 00:10:29.230 --> 00:10:31.270
  • MESSAGE, YOU KNOW, IN POTTER'S
  • 00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:35.110
  • HOUSE CHURCH, ONE CHURCH L.A.,
  • 00:10:35.110 --> 00:10:36.020
  • YOUR BOOK, "PURPOSE AWAKENING."
  • 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:39.070
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
  • 00:10:39.070 --> 00:10:40.150
  • PURPOSE AND DESTINY.
  • 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.000
  • BUT YOU TAKE IT BACK TO AN
  • 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.070
  • AMAZING REVELATION THAT BEFORE
  • 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:48.100
  • WE WERE IN OUR
  • 00:10:48.100 --> 00:10:50.160
  • MOTHER'S WOMB, YOU ACTUALLY
  • 00:10:50.160 --> 00:10:51.290
  • BRING OUT WHAT JEREMIAH IN
  • 00:10:51.290 --> 00:10:53.270
  • BOTH-- EVEN PAUL TO TIMOTHY --
  • 00:10:53.270 --> 00:10:55.050
  • YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S
  • 00:10:55.050 --> 00:10:57.110
  • A DESTINY--
  • 00:10:57.110 --> 00:10:58.270
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:10:58.270 --> 00:10:59.190
  • - PHIL: --THAT STARTED WAY
  • 00:10:59.190 --> 00:11:00.150
  • BEFORE WE EVEN WERE CONCEIVED.
  • 00:11:00.150 --> 00:11:01.250
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:11:01.250 --> 00:11:03.010
  • YEAH, I THINK THAT THE PLAN OF
  • 00:11:03.010 --> 00:11:04.010
  • A PERSON PREDATES THE BIRTH OF
  • 00:11:04.010 --> 00:11:06.110
  • A PERSON.
  • 00:11:06.110 --> 00:11:07.120
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:07.260
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: THAT VERSE
  • 00:11:07.260 --> 00:11:09.140
  • THAT YOU REFERENCE, GOD SAYS:
  • 00:11:09.140 --> 00:11:10.240
  • BEFORE I FORMED YOU IN YOUR
  • 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.000
  • MOTHER'S WOMB, I KNEW YOU.
  • 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:14.020
  • AND NOT ONLY DID I KNOW YOU BUT
  • 00:11:14.020 --> 00:11:14.290
  • I ORDAINED YOU AND I SET YOU
  • 00:11:14.290 --> 00:11:16.180
  • APART.
  • 00:11:17.050 --> 00:11:20.050
  • AND SO, WHAT THAT MEANS IS
  • 00:11:20.050 --> 00:11:20.240
  • BEFORE WE GOT HERE, GOD HAD
  • 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:21.180
  • ALREADY SET UP OUR VICTORY.
  • 00:11:21.180 --> 00:11:22.240
  • IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW WE GOT
  • 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:23.280
  • HERE.
  • 00:11:23.280 --> 00:11:26.020
  • SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT HOW WE GOT
  • 00:11:26.020 --> 00:11:27.110
  • HERE OR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE
  • 00:11:27.110 --> 00:11:28.120
  • GET HERE AND WE FAIL TO REALIZE
  • 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.180
  • THAT THE ONLY REASON WHY WE ARE
  • 00:11:30.180 --> 00:11:32.080
  • HERE IS BECAUSE WE WERE A GOOD
  • 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.050
  • IDEA IN GOD'S MIND.
  • 00:11:34.050 --> 00:11:35.110
  • AND THE CHALLENGE IS IT OFTEN
  • 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.240
  • HAS TO UNFOLD.
  • 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:39.160
  • AND WE SOMETIMES COUNT
  • 00:11:39.160 --> 00:11:40.280
  • OURSELVES OUT BECAUSE THINGS IN
  • 00:11:40.280 --> 00:11:43.160
  • A MOMENT DON'T LOOK LIKE WHAT
  • 00:11:43.160 --> 00:11:46.140
  • WE BELIEVE THEY COULD BE OR
  • 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:48.150
  • WHAT THEY SHOULD BE IN SOMEONE
  • 00:11:48.150 --> 00:11:49.140
  • ELSE'S LIFE.
  • 00:11:49.140 --> 00:11:51.100
  • BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE
  • 00:11:51.100 --> 00:11:52.020
  • LEARNED IS THAT WHEN ALL OF THE
  • 00:11:52.020 --> 00:11:53.100
  • PIECES COME TOGETHER, ALL THE
  • 00:11:53.100 --> 00:11:54.200
  • PIECES OF THE PUZZLE BEGIN TO
  • 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:57.050
  • LINE UP, YOU'LL SEE HOW THE
  • 00:11:57.050 --> 00:11:58.130
  • DIFFICULTIES, THE CHALLENGES --
  • 00:11:58.130 --> 00:12:01.090
  • ALL THOSE THINGS -- WERE
  • 00:12:01.090 --> 00:12:02.200
  • WORKING TOGETHER FOR YOUR GOOD.
  • 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.060
  • BECAUSE YOU ARE A MASTERPIECE
  • 00:12:05.060 --> 00:12:06.010
  • AND A MASTER PLAN THAT STARTED
  • 00:12:06.010 --> 00:12:07.220
  • BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT HERE.
  • 00:12:07.220 --> 00:12:08.110
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:12:08.110 --> 00:12:10.060
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:14.080
  • I THINK THAT BRINGS DIGNITY
  • 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:14.280
  • TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:12:14.280 --> 00:12:16.070
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: THANK YOU.
  • 00:12:16.070 --> 00:12:16.290
  • - PHIL: YOU KNOW, THE SENSE
  • 00:12:16.290 --> 00:12:17.250
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T COME
  • 00:12:17.250 --> 00:12:20.150
  • FROM OUR PARENTS -- WE COME
  • 00:12:20.150 --> 00:12:21.150
  • THROUGH OUR PARENTS.
  • 00:12:21.150 --> 00:12:22.110
  • - SARAH: MMH.
  • 00:12:22.110 --> 00:12:24.110
  • - PHIL: AND WHEN I READ YOUR
  • 00:12:24.110 --> 00:12:25.020
  • BOOK, "PURPOSE AWAKENING: THE
  • 00:12:25.020 --> 00:12:27.060
  • EPIC IDEAL,"
  • 00:12:27.060 --> 00:12:28.240
  • THE CONCEPT OF THAT,
  • 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:29.230
  • IT JUST-- IT AWAKENS
  • 00:12:29.230 --> 00:12:31.020
  • SOMETHING INSIDE YOU.
  • 00:12:31.020 --> 00:12:32.080
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:32.270
  • - PHIL: I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU
  • 00:12:32.270 --> 00:12:34.080
  • HAVE A SENSE THAT: OKAY, I'M
  • 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:35.070
  • HERE BECAUSE OF MY MOM AND DAD,
  • 00:12:35.070 --> 00:12:36.190
  • AND, I'M SUPPOSED TO FIND A
  • 00:12:36.190 --> 00:12:37.150
  • PURPOSE.
  • 00:12:37.150 --> 00:12:38.020
  • BUT WHEN YOU CAN DRAW FROM
  • 00:12:38.020 --> 00:12:39.190
  • SOMETHING THE STARTED IN
  • 00:12:39.190 --> 00:12:41.290
  • ETERNITY...
  • 00:12:41.290 --> 00:12:42.270
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MM-HMM.
  • 00:12:42.270 --> 00:12:44.000
  • - PHIL: ...YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
  • 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:44.260
  • MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SHOT LIKE YOU
  • 00:12:44.260 --> 00:12:46.220
  • AND LAYIN' ON THE STREETS IN
  • 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:47.200
  • WATTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A
  • 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:48.280
  • LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD
  • 00:12:48.280 --> 00:12:49.270
  • SOME FATAL BLOWS IN THEIR LIVES
  • 00:12:49.270 --> 00:12:52.130
  • AND THEY FEEL LIKE THAT IT'S
  • 00:12:52.130 --> 00:12:53.190
  • OVER.
  • 00:12:53.190 --> 00:12:54.010
  • AND I THINK YOUR MESSAGE IS:
  • 00:12:54.010 --> 00:12:56.150
  • BRO, HANG IN THERE.
  • 00:12:56.150 --> 00:12:57.150
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:12:57.150 --> 00:12:57.290
  • [PASTOR TOURÉ CHUCKLES]
  • 00:12:57.290 --> 00:12:58.270
  • - PHIL: RIGHT?
  • 00:12:58.270 --> 00:12:59.200
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:00.150
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:13:00.150 --> 00:13:01.080
  • YOU SEE A LOT OF THIS, SO ONE
  • 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:01.290
  • OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF ONE
  • 00:13:01.290 --> 00:13:02.200
  • CHURCH L.A. IS YOU'VE TAPPED
  • 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.150
  • INTO, REALLY, IN THAT AREA
  • 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.200
  • GEOGRAPHICALLY.
  • 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.210
  • I THINK IN THE SQUARE MILE OF
  • 00:13:10.210 --> 00:13:11.180
  • YOUR CHURCH THERE'S MORE
  • 00:13:11.180 --> 00:13:12.060
  • INFLUENCE FIGURATIVELY
  • 00:13:12.270 --> 00:13:15.270
  • AND LITERALLY THAT HAPPENS
  • 00:13:15.270 --> 00:13:17.020
  • FROM THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE
  • 00:13:17.020 --> 00:13:17.200
  • OF LAND BECAUSE OF HOLLYWOOD,
  • 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:18.110
  • BECAUSE OF THE MUSIC,
  • 00:13:18.110 --> 00:13:20.000
  • BECAUSE OF ACTING AND DRAMA
  • 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.170
  • AND STORYTELLING AND WHAT
  • 00:13:22.170 --> 00:13:23.190
  • SHAPES OUR CULTURE.
  • 00:13:23.190 --> 00:13:25.110
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MM-HMM.
  • 00:13:25.110 --> 00:13:26.020
  • - PHIL: SO, YOU'RE REALLY IN
  • 00:13:26.020 --> 00:13:27.130
  • THE CULTURE-SHAPING ARENA EACH
  • 00:13:27.130 --> 00:13:28.130
  • WEEK.
  • 00:13:29.230 --> 00:13:32.230
  • AND YOU HAVE EVERYBODY FROM
  • 00:13:32.230 --> 00:13:34.040
  • EXECUTIVES OF MOVIE STUDIOS TO,
  • 00:13:35.020 --> 00:13:38.020
  • UM, YOU'VE OFTEN SAID PEOPLE
  • 00:13:38.020 --> 00:13:40.200
  • GETTIN' OFF THE GREYHOUND BUS
  • 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:41.270
  • WITH NOTHING BUT A DREAM.
  • 00:13:41.270 --> 00:13:42.290
  • [PASTOR TOURÉ CHUCKLES]
  • 00:13:42.290 --> 00:13:43.210
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:13:43.210 --> 00:13:44.080
  • - PHIL: HOW HAS THAT HAPPENED
  • 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:45.150
  • THAT YOU CONNECT AND THE
  • 00:13:45.150 --> 00:13:48.060
  • RESPONSE THAT PEOPLE HAVE
  • 00:13:48.060 --> 00:13:49.140
  • TOWARDS THIS MESSAGE?
  • 00:13:49.140 --> 00:13:50.190
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH, I THINK
  • 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:53.040
  • THAT, UM, I DIDN'T PLAN ON
  • 00:13:53.040 --> 00:13:54.040
  • PASTORING HOLLYWOOD.
  • 00:13:54.040 --> 00:13:55.120
  • [CLEARS THROAT]
  • 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.000
  • I JUST FOLLOW GOD AND GOD
  • 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:57.190
  • LITERALLY SAID: PLANT YOUR
  • 00:13:57.190 --> 00:13:58.290
  • CHURCH IN NORTH HOLLYWOOD.
  • 00:13:58.290 --> 00:14:00.270
  • I DIDN'T HAVE A BACKGROUND IN
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  • ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, I
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  • DIDN'T HAVE-- I DIDN'T HAVE THE
  • 00:14:03.050 --> 00:14:04.240
  • BUT, WHEN GOD CALLS YOU, YOU
  • 00:14:10.280 --> 00:14:11.200
  • HAVE TO OBEY BECAUSE THERE WILL
  • 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:12.180
  • ALWAYS BE ASSIGNED TO WHO YOU
  • 00:14:12.180 --> 00:14:13.090
  • ARE.
  • 00:14:13.090 --> 00:14:14.180
  • AND SO, WHEN I GOT THERE AND I
  • 00:14:14.180 --> 00:14:15.090
  • SAW, YOU KNOW, THESE ARTISTS,
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  • SOME OF WHICH GETTING OFF THE
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  • BUS WITH $7 AND A SUITCASE, ONE
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  • OF THE -- I THINK -- THE UNIQUE
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  • GIFTS THAT I HAVE IS I SEE IN
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  • PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN'T SEE IN
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  • IN FACT, MY ENTIRE CALLING IS
  • 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.010
  • BASED ON KNOWING WHAT'S IN
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  • EVERY SINGLE PERSON BECAUSE
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  • THEY'RE NOT A MISTAKE.
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  • - PHIL: WOW.
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  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND SOMETIMES
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  • LIFE WILL MAKE YOU DELUSIONAL.
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  • IT WILL MAKE YOU THINK THAT YOU
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  • DON'T HAVE GREATNESS ON THE
  • 00:14:43.290 --> 00:14:44.270
  • INSIDE OF YOU.
  • 00:14:44.270 --> 00:14:45.270
  • BUT WE WERE CREATED IN THE
  • 00:14:45.270 --> 00:14:47.060
  • IMAGE OF GOD.
  • 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:48.160
  • AND SO, MY THING WAS SPEAKING
  • 00:14:48.160 --> 00:14:49.070
  • TO THAT GREATNESS.
  • 00:14:49.070 --> 00:14:50.150
  • AND SO, HERE IS THIS FAITH THAT
  • 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:53.240
  • I HAVE IN THE GREATNESS THAT'S
  • 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.030
  • ON THE INSIDE OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:14:55.030 --> 00:14:56.080
  • AND THEN, YOU'VE GOT THESE
  • 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.110
  • ARTISTS THAT ARE COMIN' TO L.A.
  • 00:14:58.110 --> 00:14:59.030
  • FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:14:59.030 --> 00:14:59.270
  • AND SO, MY BELIEF IN THEM AND
  • 00:14:59.270 --> 00:15:01.060
  • THEIR FAITH TO STEP OUT
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  • COLLIDED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN
  • 00:15:03.260 --> 00:15:05.070
  • THERE WAS LANGUAGE THAT WAS
  • 00:15:05.070 --> 00:15:06.010
  • PRODUCTIVE.
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  • AND I'VE SEEN GOD RADICALLY NOT
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  • ONLY MAKE THEIR CAREER
  • 00:15:10.030 --> 00:15:11.160
  • SUCCESSFUL BUT MAKE THEIR
  • 00:15:11.160 --> 00:15:13.020
  • CALLING SUCCESSFUL AND FIND
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  • THEIR CALLING THROUGH THEIR
  • 00:15:14.210 --> 00:15:16.010
  • CAREERS.
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  • IT'S INCREDIBLE.
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  • - PHIL: YEAH, IT IS.
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  • AND WHEN YOU PREACH AT ONE
  • 00:15:18.180 --> 00:15:21.110
  • CHURCH L.A.-- POTTER'S HOUSE
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  • ONE CHURCH L.A. -- GOTTA GET IT
  • 00:15:23.160 --> 00:15:24.130
  • ALL RIGHT--
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  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEP...POTTER'S
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  • HOUSE AT ONE L.A.
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  • - PHIL: YEAH, IN YOUR MIND,
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  • YOU SEE-- YOU LOOK ACROSS AND
  • 00:15:27.220 --> 00:15:28.130
  • YOU SEE PEOPLE, "OH, I'VE SEEN
  • 00:15:28.130 --> 00:15:29.040
  • THEM IN A COMMERCIAL," "OH,
  • 00:15:29.040 --> 00:15:29.240
  • I'VE SEEN THEM IN A MOVIE."
  • 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:30.150
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
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  • - PHIL: AND YET, EVERYBODY IS
  • 00:15:31.050 --> 00:15:31.260
  • IN THERE.
  • 00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:32.120
  • BUT, I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT
  • 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:33.180
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY
  • 00:15:33.180 --> 00:15:36.160
  • REPRESENT A CALLING THAT
  • 00:15:36.160 --> 00:15:39.060
  • AFFECTS EVERYONE IN EVERY WAY.
  • 00:15:40.170 --> 00:15:43.170
  • SO, I THINK YOUR MESSAGE TO
  • 00:15:43.170 --> 00:15:44.070
  • THAT CULTURE AND TO THAT-- THE
  • 00:15:44.070 --> 00:15:45.210
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE ULTIMATELY
  • 00:15:46.050 --> 00:15:49.050
  • CULTURE-SHAPERS--
  • 00:15:49.050 --> 00:15:50.120
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YES.
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  • - PHIL: --UH, RESONATES WITH
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  • EVERYBODY.
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  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MM-HMM.
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  • - PHIL: AND IT SHOWS.
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  • UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:56.220
  • THAT MAKES BOTH OF YOU VERY
  • 00:15:56.220 --> 00:15:57.200
  • EFFECTIVE -- MANY PEOPLE, YOU
  • 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.150
  • KNOW, THEY CALL THEM
  • 00:15:59.150 --> 00:16:02.110
  • MILLENNIALS BUT BASICALLY AN
  • 00:16:02.110 --> 00:16:04.090
  • AGE GROUP BECAUSE THEY'RE
  • 00:16:04.090 --> 00:16:04.280
  • DIVERSE IN THEMSELF -- IS YOUR
  • 00:16:04.280 --> 00:16:05.270
  • VULNERABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
  • 00:16:05.270 --> 00:16:06.230
  • AND HONESTY.
  • 00:16:06.230 --> 00:16:07.290
  • IT'S A-- IT'S A-- IT'S A NEW
  • 00:16:07.290 --> 00:16:09.260
  • WAY THAT WE'VE NOT ALL SEEN.
  • 00:16:09.260 --> 00:16:10.240
  • I'M--
  • 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.160
  • LIKE I SAID, I'M 61 AND BEEN IN
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  • THIS ALL MY LIFE, AND,
  • 00:16:14.130 --> 00:16:16.180
  • BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS
  • 00:16:16.180 --> 00:16:17.280
  • ARE BRUTALLY HONEST WITH YOUR
  • 00:16:17.280 --> 00:16:19.070
  • LIVES.
  • 00:16:19.070 --> 00:16:20.110
  • [PASTOR TOURÉ CHUCKLES]
  • 00:16:20.110 --> 00:16:21.020
  • AND IT'S AMAZING, ISN'T IT?
  • 00:16:21.020 --> 00:16:23.110
  • PEOPLE ACTUALLY DON'T-- AREN'T
  • 00:16:23.110 --> 00:16:24.220
  • REPULSED BY THAT, ARE THEY?
  • 00:16:24.220 --> 00:16:25.270
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: NO.
  • 00:16:25.270 --> 00:16:26.200
  • NO.
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  • THEY WANNA KNOW THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:28.140
  • REAL.
  • 00:16:28.140 --> 00:16:28.280
  • THEY WANNA KNOW THAT...THAT YOU
  • 00:16:30.090 --> 00:16:33.090
  • ARE NOT THIS MARTIAN WHO HAS
  • 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.200
  • BEEN, YOU KNOW, CHASTE FROM
  • 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:37.200
  • BIRTH.
  • 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.140
  • YOU KNOW, BECAUSE VERY FEW
  • 00:16:40.140 --> 00:16:41.030
  • PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:42.270
  • WE EXPERIENCE LIFE.
  • 00:16:42.270 --> 00:16:43.220
  • WE HAVE EXPERIENCES.
  • 00:16:43.220 --> 00:16:45.000
  • AND PEOPLE WANNA JUST KNOW
  • 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:45.190
  • YOU'RE REAL.
  • 00:16:45.190 --> 00:16:46.010
  • THEY'LL FOLLOW YOU IF YOU KNOW
  • 00:16:46.010 --> 00:16:48.100
  • THAT YOU'RE REAL, EVEN IF
  • 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:48.290
  • YOU'RE NOT PERFECT.
  • 00:16:48.290 --> 00:16:49.200
  • IN FACT, NONE OF US ARE.
  • 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:51.060
  • WE FOUND AUTHENTICITY TO BE OUR
  • 00:16:51.060 --> 00:16:52.010
  • TRUE ASSET.
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  • - SARAH: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:58.010
  • I MEAN, LIFE IS BRUTAL.
  • 00:16:58.010 --> 00:16:58.200
  • THAT'S THE REALITY.
  • 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.050
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:01.010
  • - SARAH: I MEAN, HOUSTON WAS
  • 00:17:01.010 --> 00:17:01.220
  • UNDERWATER.
  • 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:02.180
  • CRAZINESS HAPPENING IN
  • 00:17:02.180 --> 00:17:03.050
  • CHARLOTTESVILLE.
  • 00:17:03.050 --> 00:17:03.220
  • LIFE IS BRUTAL.
  • 00:17:03.220 --> 00:17:04.210
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:17:04.210 --> 00:17:05.060
  • - SARAH: AND I THINK OUT OF
  • 00:17:05.060 --> 00:17:06.060
  • OUR OWN DESIRE TO MAKE THE
  • 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:07.200
  • CHURCH A SAFE PLACE, WE DECIDED
  • 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:08.120
  • TO JUST LEAVE ALL OF THOSE
  • 00:17:08.120 --> 00:17:09.290
  • ISSUES OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR, TO
  • 00:17:09.290 --> 00:17:11.140
  • COME IN AND EXPERIENCE THE
  • 00:17:11.140 --> 00:17:13.190
  • PRESENCE OF GOD.
  • 00:17:13.190 --> 00:17:14.210
  • BUT WHAT WE DID WAS ROB PEOPLE
  • 00:17:15.020 --> 00:17:18.020
  • OF THE ABILITY TO SAY: OUCH.
  • 00:17:18.020 --> 00:17:18.220
  • THIS HURTS.
  • 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:19.100
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:17:19.100 --> 00:17:20.030
  • - SARAH: I'M SUFFERING.
  • 00:17:20.030 --> 00:17:20.210
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:17:20.210 --> 00:17:21.090
  • I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA MAKE
  • 00:17:21.090 --> 00:17:22.290
  • IT FROM DAY TO DAY.
  • 00:17:22.290 --> 00:17:24.180
  • AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:25.100
  • I COMMITTED TO DO AS I, YOU
  • 00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:27.070
  • KNOW, HAD THIS FOLLOWING WAS TO
  • 00:17:27.070 --> 00:17:29.180
  • BE HONEST ABOUT MY LIFE, ABOUT
  • 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:30.150
  • MY STRUGGLES.
  • 00:17:30.150 --> 00:17:33.040
  • AND I HAVE FOUND THAT WHAT'S
  • 00:17:33.040 --> 00:17:34.150
  • FROM THE HEART REACHES THE
  • 00:17:34.150 --> 00:17:35.090
  • AND WHEN PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, "YOU
  • 00:17:36.260 --> 00:17:38.150
  • KNOW WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT,
  • 00:17:38.150 --> 00:17:40.050
  • YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'VE
  • 00:17:40.050 --> 00:17:40.270
  • BEEN," THEN THEY TRUST YOU WHEN
  • 00:17:40.270 --> 00:17:41.220
  • YOU ALSO SAY, "BUT YOU CAN GET
  • 00:17:41.220 --> 00:17:42.130
  • OUT OF THIS.
  • 00:17:42.130 --> 00:17:44.040
  • YOU CAN OVERCOME, GOD IS WITH
  • 00:17:44.040 --> 00:17:44.290
  • YOU, AND IF HE DID IT FOR ME,
  • 00:17:44.290 --> 00:17:45.250
  • HE'S GONNA DO IT FOR YOU."
  • 00:17:45.250 --> 00:17:47.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:47.150 --> 00:17:48.200
  • BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT.
  • 00:17:51.070 --> 00:17:51.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:53.170
  • I WANNA-- YOU KNOW, IN THE BIO
  • 00:17:53.170 --> 00:17:54.100
  • AND PEOPLE THAT ARE AWARE OF
  • 00:17:54.100 --> 00:17:55.100
  • BOTH OF YOU AND WHAT'S
  • 00:17:55.100 --> 00:17:56.100
  • HAPPENING WITH YOU--
  • 00:17:56.100 --> 00:17:57.130
  • I MEAN, YOU'VE HAD TWO
  • 00:17:57.130 --> 00:17:58.290
  • BESTSELLING BOOKS.
  • 00:17:59.050 --> 00:18:02.070
  • YOUR LATEST BOOK, "DON'T SETTLE
  • 00:18:02.070 --> 00:18:05.020
  • FOR SAFE," IS ACTUALLY ONE OF
  • 00:18:05.020 --> 00:18:06.290
  • THE LOVE GIFTS OF TBN THIS
  • 00:18:06.290 --> 00:18:08.090
  • MONTH.
  • 00:18:08.120 --> 00:18:11.120
  • - SARAH: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:18:11.120 --> 00:18:11.280
  • - PHIL: AND, UM-- BUT-- AND
  • 00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:12.270
  • SPEAKING BEFORE THOUSANDS OF
  • 00:18:12.270 --> 00:18:13.170
  • PEOPLE AND LITERALLY AFFECTING
  • 00:18:13.170 --> 00:18:14.080
  • SO, WE ALL SEE WHERE YOU ARE
  • 00:18:17.140 --> 00:18:19.260
  • NOW.
  • 00:18:19.260 --> 00:18:20.130
  • BUT I WANNA GO BACK TO WHEN YOU
  • 00:18:20.130 --> 00:18:22.010
  • WERE 13 YEARS OLD AND FOUND OUT
  • 00:18:22.010 --> 00:18:22.230
  • YOU WERE PREGNANT.
  • 00:18:22.230 --> 00:18:24.030
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:18:24.030 --> 00:18:25.150
  • - PHIL: CAN YOU EVER IMAGINE
  • 00:18:25.150 --> 00:18:28.010
  • THAT DAY, THAT NIGHT, WHENEVER
  • 00:18:28.010 --> 00:18:28.220
  • IT WAS, WHEN YOU REALIZED YOU
  • 00:18:28.220 --> 00:18:30.220
  • WERE PREGNANT-- OBVIOUSLY,
  • 00:18:30.220 --> 00:18:32.280
  • EVERYONE LISTENING KNOWS, WELL,
  • 00:18:32.280 --> 00:18:35.150
  • THE BISHOP IS YOUR FATHER...
  • 00:18:35.150 --> 00:18:36.050
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:18:36.050 --> 00:18:36.190
  • - PHIL: ...YOUR MOTHER.
  • 00:18:37.080 --> 00:18:40.080
  • YOUR CELEBRITY STATUS WASN'T
  • 00:18:40.080 --> 00:18:41.000
  • SOUGHT BUT WAS THERE.
  • 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:41.230
  • AND NOW, YOU'RE 13 YEARS OLD.
  • 00:18:41.230 --> 00:18:44.160
  • DID YOU EVER THINK FROM THERE
  • 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:45.220
  • YOU WOULD GET HERE AND WHAT WAS
  • 00:18:45.220 --> 00:18:47.170
  • - SARAH: MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:18:50.280 --> 00:18:51.260
  • I JUST REMEMBERED AS YOU WERE
  • 00:18:51.260 --> 00:18:52.240
  • SPEAKING THAT -- AND I DON'T
  • 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:54.020
  • EVEN THINK THAT I'VE SHARED
  • 00:18:54.020 --> 00:18:55.000
  • THIS WITH YOU -- WHEN I FOUND
  • 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:56.170
  • OUT I WAS PREGNANT, IT WAS ON
  • 00:18:56.170 --> 00:18:57.130
  • EASTER.
  • 00:18:57.130 --> 00:18:59.140
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:18:59.140 --> 00:19:00.270
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:19:00.270 --> 00:19:01.230
  • - SARAH: ON EASTER.
  • 00:19:01.230 --> 00:19:02.090
  • SO, THE DAY THAT WE'RE
  • 00:19:02.090 --> 00:19:02.280
  • CELEBRATING THE RESURRECTING OF
  • 00:19:02.280 --> 00:19:04.020
  • OUR SAVIOR, I FELT LIKE A TOMB
  • 00:19:04.020 --> 00:19:04.240
  • HAD BEEN ROLLED OVER MY HOPE,
  • 00:19:04.290 --> 00:19:07.290
  • OVER MY DESTINY, LIKE THE STONE
  • 00:19:07.290 --> 00:19:10.110
  • HAD JUST BEEN ROLLED OVER EVERY
  • 00:19:10.110 --> 00:19:11.250
  • DREAM THAT I COULD EVER HAVE.
  • 00:19:11.250 --> 00:19:12.180
  • AND IT WAS IN THAT MOMENT THAT
  • 00:19:12.180 --> 00:19:14.270
  • I REALLY FELT LIKE THAT THE
  • 00:19:14.270 --> 00:19:16.210
  • GOODNESS OF GOD, THE GRACE OF
  • 00:19:16.210 --> 00:19:19.130
  • GOD WAS RESERVED FOR PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:19:19.130 --> 00:19:20.270
  • DID EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY.
  • 00:19:21.150 --> 00:19:24.150
  • AND IT WASN'T UNTIL I STARTED
  • 00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:25.060
  • CONNECTING WITH OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:19:25.060 --> 00:19:26.030
  • AND REALLY JUST REALIZING THAT
  • 00:19:26.030 --> 00:19:28.060
  • WE ALL HAVE A STORY, WE'VE ALL
  • 00:19:28.060 --> 00:19:31.000
  • GONE THROUGH SOMETHING, THAT I
  • 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:33.040
  • FELT LIKE THE STONE BEGAN TO
  • 00:19:33.040 --> 00:19:33.240
  • ROLL AWAY A BIT.
  • 00:19:34.090 --> 00:19:37.090
  • BUT I FELT USELESS.
  • 00:19:37.090 --> 00:19:37.250
  • I FELT DIRTY, I FELT LIKE THERE
  • 00:19:37.250 --> 00:19:40.130
  • WAS NO PROMISE FOR MY LIFE.
  • 00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:42.240
  • AND I FELT LIKE MY ROLE WOULD
  • 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:43.270
  • BE TO SEE EVERYONE ELSE IN LIFE
  • 00:19:43.270 --> 00:19:45.240
  • WIN WHILE I SAT THERE AND
  • 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:46.130
  • LICKED MY WOUNDS.
  • 00:19:46.130 --> 00:19:48.230
  • AND AS I BEGAN TO SEE THAT I
  • 00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:50.110
  • WASN'T IN IT BY MYSELF-- I
  • 00:19:50.110 --> 00:19:51.240
  • BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A TRICK
  • 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:52.200
  • THAT THE ENEMY PLAYS ON OUR
  • 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:54.040
  • MINDS IS THAT HE MAKES US
  • 00:19:54.040 --> 00:19:56.030
  • BELIEVE BECAUSE OF OUR ISSUES
  • 00:19:56.030 --> 00:19:58.060
  • AND BECAUSE OF OUR STRUGGLES
  • 00:19:58.060 --> 00:19:59.280
  • THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE LIFE IN A
  • 00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:00.250
  • PRISON.
  • 00:20:00.250 --> 00:20:01.240
  • AND SO, WE GO ABOUT OUR DAY
  • 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:02.210
  • AND WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE FREE
  • 00:20:02.210 --> 00:20:04.270
  • AND WE'RE STILL IN OUR HOMES,
  • 00:20:04.270 --> 00:20:05.180
  • IN OUR MARRIAGES, ON OUR
  • 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:06.130
  • WORKFORCES, AND IT LOOKS LIKE
  • 00:20:06.130 --> 00:20:08.140
  • WE'RE FREE BUT ON THE INSIDE
  • 00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:09.180
  • WE'RE HURTING, WE'RE BROKEN, WE
  • 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:11.000
  • DON'T BELIEVE ANYMORE.
  • 00:20:11.170 --> 00:20:14.170
  • BUT WHAT HELPED ME AND WHAT I
  • 00:20:14.170 --> 00:20:15.210
  • HOPE MY STORY DOES FOR OTHER
  • 00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:16.110
  • PEOPLE IS JUST REMIND YOU:
  • 00:20:16.110 --> 00:20:17.130
  • YOU'RE NOT IN THIS BY YOURSELF.
  • 00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:19.050
  • YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY
  • 00:20:19.050 --> 00:20:20.230
  • ONE FACING WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:20:20.230 --> 00:20:22.000
  • AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE THING
  • 00:20:25.020 --> 00:20:25.230
  • THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY FACING
  • 00:20:25.230 --> 00:20:27.020
  • SOMEONE HAS ALREADY OVERCOME.
  • 00:20:27.170 --> 00:20:30.170
  • AND BECAUSE THEY'VE OVERCOME,
  • 00:20:30.170 --> 00:20:32.000
  • THERE'S HOPE FOR YOUR STORY.
  • 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.030
  • PEOPLE HAVE HAD IT WORSE,
  • 00:20:33.030 --> 00:20:34.110
  • PEOPLE HAVE HAD IT BETTER.
  • 00:20:34.110 --> 00:20:35.080
  • STOP COMPARING YOUR STORY TO
  • 00:20:35.080 --> 00:20:36.290
  • WHAT'S HAPPENED IN OTHER
  • 00:20:36.290 --> 00:20:39.080
  • PEOPLE'S LIFE AND START TO
  • 00:20:39.080 --> 00:20:40.130
  • DECIDE, RIGHT NOW, IN THIS
  • 00:20:40.130 --> 00:20:42.070
  • MOMENT THAT: I AM NOT GONNA
  • 00:20:42.070 --> 00:20:43.210
  • ALLOW THIS STONE TO BE ROLLED
  • 00:20:43.210 --> 00:20:45.090
  • OVER MY DESTINY.
  • 00:20:45.090 --> 00:20:46.090
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:20:46.090 --> 00:20:46.250
  • - SARAH: JESUS DIED SO I DON'T
  • 00:20:46.250 --> 00:20:47.170
  • HAVE TO GET ON THE CROSS.
  • 00:20:47.170 --> 00:20:48.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:20:48.210 --> 00:20:49.080
  • [PHIL LAUGHS]
  • 00:20:49.080 --> 00:20:50.110
  • I DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE REST
  • 00:20:50.110 --> 00:20:51.020
  • OF MY LIFE HANGING BY MY OWN
  • 00:20:51.020 --> 00:20:52.250
  • FAILURES AND MY OWN MISTAKES.
  • 00:20:52.250 --> 00:20:54.200
  • BECAUSE HE LIVES IN ME, I HAVE
  • 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:56.140
  • BEEN RESURRECTED, TOO.
  • 00:20:56.140 --> 00:20:58.120
  • AND SO, GOD, WHAT DO YOU WANNA
  • 00:20:58.120 --> 00:20:59.220
  • DO WITH MY LIFE?
  • 00:20:59.220 --> 00:21:01.070
  • WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH MY
  • 00:21:01.070 --> 00:21:01.270
  • BROKENNESS?
  • 00:21:01.270 --> 00:21:03.060
  • WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH THIS
  • 00:21:03.060 --> 00:21:04.080
  • PAIN THAT I'VE FELT?
  • 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:07.030
  • BECAUSE I SERVE A GOD WHO MAKES
  • 00:21:07.030 --> 00:21:08.110
  • ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR
  • 00:21:08.110 --> 00:21:09.230
  • OUR GOOD.
  • 00:21:09.230 --> 00:21:10.110
  • BUT THAT WORKING FEELS LIKE
  • 00:21:10.110 --> 00:21:11.250
  • CRUSHING SOMETIMES.
  • 00:21:12.140 --> 00:21:15.140
  • IT FEELS LIKE PAIN AND
  • 00:21:15.140 --> 00:21:16.210
  • DISAPPOINTMENT.
  • 00:21:16.210 --> 00:21:17.270
  • BUT IT ALSO, ON THE OTHER
  • 00:21:17.270 --> 00:21:18.160
  • SIDE-- I MEAN, LOOK AT OUR
  • 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:19.050
  • LIVES NOW.
  • 00:21:19.050 --> 00:21:19.250
  • IT'S RESTORATION THAT YOU
  • 00:21:19.250 --> 00:21:20.170
  • AND THERE'S A TIME WHEN YOU
  • 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:24.140
  • WILL LOOK BACK AND YOU WILL
  • 00:21:24.140 --> 00:21:25.040
  • THANK GOD.
  • 00:21:25.040 --> 00:21:25.220
  • YOU WILL THANK HIM FOR THE
  • 00:21:25.220 --> 00:21:27.120
  • TEARS THAT ARE CURRENTLY
  • 00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:28.280
  • STREAMING DOWN YOUR FACE.
  • 00:21:28.280 --> 00:21:29.210
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: HALLELUJAH.
  • 00:21:29.210 --> 00:21:30.140
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:31.210
  • WOW.
  • 00:21:31.210 --> 00:21:33.000
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: HALLELUJAH.
  • 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:33.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:21:33.260 --> 00:21:34.230
  • - PHIL: IF YOUR PARENTS WERE
  • 00:21:34.230 --> 00:21:35.140
  • HERE, I WOULD ASK THIS
  • 00:21:35.140 --> 00:21:36.010
  • QUESTION.
  • 00:21:36.010 --> 00:21:37.070
  • AND, UH, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO
  • 00:21:37.070 --> 00:21:37.280
  • REPRESENT YOUR PARENTS,
  • 00:21:37.280 --> 00:21:38.230
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN
  • 00:21:38.230 --> 00:21:40.000
  • DOING THIS, I'VE BEEN AROUND
  • 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:41.040
  • TBN FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS.
  • 00:21:41.040 --> 00:21:43.220
  • I KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF
  • 00:21:43.220 --> 00:21:45.030
  • GRANDPARENTS, I HAVE A LOT OF
  • 00:21:45.030 --> 00:21:45.290
  • PARENTS, I HAVE PARENTS THAT
  • 00:21:45.290 --> 00:21:47.200
  • HAVE FACED THIS WITH THEIR
  • 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:49.100
  • CHILDREN...
  • 00:21:49.100 --> 00:21:51.180
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:52.230
  • - PHIL: ...UH, MAYBE WILL.
  • 00:21:52.230 --> 00:21:53.200
  • OR EVEN GRANDPARENTS WHO HAVE
  • 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.130
  • OR WILL FACE, YOU KNOW, "YOUR
  • 00:21:56.130 --> 00:21:57.150
  • DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT."
  • 00:21:57.230 --> 00:22:00.250
  • WHAT DID THEY GO THROUGH
  • 00:22:00.250 --> 00:22:01.130
  • AND...HOW...CAN A PARENT
  • 00:22:04.060 --> 00:22:07.060
  • RECONCILE WHEN THEIR CHILDREN
  • 00:22:07.060 --> 00:22:09.240
  • MAKE DECISIONS AND THINGS
  • 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:10.160
  • UH, WHAT WOULD THEY BE SAYING
  • 00:22:13.180 --> 00:22:14.090
  • TO THOSE THAT ARE FACING THIS
  • 00:22:14.090 --> 00:22:15.120
  • AS PARENTS?
  • 00:22:15.120 --> 00:22:17.200
  • - SARAH: WE'RE A BLENDED
  • 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.020
  • FAMILY.
  • 00:22:19.020 --> 00:22:19.240
  • WE HAVE SIX CHILDREN.
  • 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:20.110
  • - PHIL: HUH.
  • 00:22:20.110 --> 00:22:20.290
  • - SARAH: AND I CAN TELL YOU
  • 00:22:20.290 --> 00:22:22.050
  • RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S NO PARENT'S
  • 00:22:22.050 --> 00:22:23.160
  • DREAM THAT YOUR CHILD GETS
  • 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:24.050
  • PREGNANT AS A TEENAGER.
  • 00:22:24.050 --> 00:22:25.050
  • SO, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:22:25.050 --> 00:22:26.220
  • MY PARENTS WERE WISHING OR
  • 00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:27.160
  • PRAYING FOR.
  • 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:28.270
  • - PHIL: SURE.
  • 00:22:28.270 --> 00:22:30.260
  • - SARAH: BUT I TELL YOU THAT
  • 00:22:30.260 --> 00:22:31.170
  • WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DID NOT
  • 00:22:31.170 --> 00:22:32.200
  • ALLOW THEIR DISAPPOINTMENT TO
  • 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:33.110
  • STRIP ME OF THEIR LOVE, OF
  • 00:22:33.110 --> 00:22:34.210
  • THEIR SUPPORT, AND, MORE
  • 00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:36.190
  • IMPORTANTLY, OF GOD'S GRACE.
  • 00:22:36.190 --> 00:22:37.150
  • SO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, IF
  • 00:22:37.150 --> 00:22:38.280
  • YOU'RE AT HOME, MAYBE YOU KNOW
  • 00:22:38.280 --> 00:22:40.070
  • SOMEONE, MAYBE YOU'VE
  • 00:22:40.070 --> 00:22:41.230
  • EXPERIENCED THIS YOURSELF, AND
  • 00:22:41.230 --> 00:22:43.260
  • YOU'RE WONDERING, "YOU KNOW,
  • 00:22:43.260 --> 00:22:44.160
  • I'VE PUT ALL OF THIS THINGS IN
  • 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:45.130
  • THIS CHILD -- WHERE IS IT?
  • 00:22:45.130 --> 00:22:46.110
  • AND WHAT DID I DO WRONG?"
  • 00:22:46.110 --> 00:22:48.130
  • I WANNA COMFORT YOU IN SAYING
  • 00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:49.220
  • THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU PUT IN
  • 00:22:49.220 --> 00:22:50.140
  • AND SOMETIMES THE SEEDS OF LIFE
  • 00:22:54.120 --> 00:22:55.130
  • HAVE TO BE COVERED IN DIRT.
  • 00:22:55.130 --> 00:22:57.180
  • AND SOMETIMES THAT DIRT LOOKS
  • 00:22:57.180 --> 00:22:58.110
  • LIKE TEEN PREGNANCY.
  • 00:22:58.110 --> 00:22:59.190
  • SOMETIMES IT LOOKS LIKE AN
  • 00:22:59.190 --> 00:23:00.270
  • ADDICTION.
  • 00:23:00.270 --> 00:23:01.140
  • SOMETIMES IT LOOKS LIKE
  • 00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:02.120
  • DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL.
  • 00:23:02.120 --> 00:23:04.040
  • AND IT'S NORMAL TO FEEL LIKE,
  • 00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:05.080
  • "WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?"
  • 00:23:05.080 --> 00:23:06.060
  • BUT TRUST THAT WHAT YOU BEGAN
  • 00:23:06.060 --> 00:23:08.020
  • IN THAT CHILD CHRIST IS GONNA
  • 00:23:08.020 --> 00:23:09.080
  • FINISH.
  • 00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:10.030
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:23:10.030 --> 00:23:10.190
  • - SARAH: WHAT YOU BEGAN IN
  • 00:23:10.190 --> 00:23:11.230
  • THAT CHILD CHRIST IS GONNA
  • 00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:12.240
  • FINISH.
  • 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:13.130
  • YOU CANNOT CONTROL THEIR
  • 00:23:13.130 --> 00:23:15.000
  • DESTINY AND EVERYTHING THAT
  • 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:16.050
  • THEY DO BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS
  • 00:23:16.050 --> 00:23:17.220
  • BE A RIVER OF LOVE IN THE
  • 00:23:17.220 --> 00:23:20.180
  • DRIEST SEASONS OF THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:22.000
  • YOU CAN REMIND THEM THAT
  • 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:23.040
  • THEY'RE NEVER FACING ANYTHING
  • 00:23:23.040 --> 00:23:24.070
  • ALONE.
  • 00:23:24.070 --> 00:23:24.270
  • AND WHAT MADE ME FEEL SO MUCH
  • 00:23:25.050 --> 00:23:28.050
  • COMFORT DURING MY SEASON OF
  • 00:23:28.050 --> 00:23:28.290
  • PREGNANCY AND ALL OF THE OTHER
  • 00:23:28.290 --> 00:23:31.170
  • THINGS THAT I WENT THROUGH IS
  • 00:23:31.170 --> 00:23:33.030
  • THAT I GOT SO CURIOUS ABOUT HOW
  • 00:23:33.030 --> 00:23:35.080
  • MY PARENTS COULD STILL LOVE ME
  • 00:23:35.080 --> 00:23:36.290
  • THAT I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT
  • 00:23:36.290 --> 00:23:37.230
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:23:40.180 --> 00:23:41.200
  • - SARAH: I WANTED TO KNOW
  • 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:42.090
  • ABOUT THIS SOURCE OF LOVE THAT
  • 00:23:42.090 --> 00:23:43.000
  • JUST SEEMED TO RUN
  • 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.050
  • UNCONDITIONALLY.
  • 00:23:44.050 --> 00:23:44.210
  • AND I HAD AN ENCOUNTER WITH
  • 00:23:44.210 --> 00:23:45.160
  • THEIR GOD AND IT CHANGED MY
  • 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:46.270
  • LIFE.
  • 00:23:46.270 --> 00:23:47.140
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:23:47.140 --> 00:23:48.000
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.100
  • WELL...WE'RE GONNA COME BACK
  • 00:23:50.100 --> 00:23:52.030
  • AND TALK ABOUT JUST HOW TO
  • 00:23:52.050 --> 00:23:55.050
  • CONNECT THE DOTS BECAUSE I
  • 00:23:55.050 --> 00:23:56.260
  • THINK RIGHT NOW BOTH OF YOUR
  • 00:23:56.260 --> 00:23:57.260
  • STORIES ARE RED-DOTTING PEOPLE
  • 00:23:57.260 --> 00:24:00.020
  • AND THEY'RE SAYING, "OH...MY
  • 00:24:00.020 --> 00:24:01.240
  • GOSH, THAT'S ME, THAT'S WHERE I
  • 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:02.160
  • WAS."
  • 00:24:02.190 --> 00:24:05.190
  • AND, THE OBVIOUS NEXT QUESTION
  • 00:24:05.190 --> 00:24:06.100
  • IS: HOW DO I GET FROM WHERE I
  • 00:24:06.100 --> 00:24:07.170
  • AM TO WHERE I NEED TO GO?
  • 00:24:07.250 --> 00:24:10.250
  • AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT
  • 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:11.140
  • I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE
  • 00:24:13.190 --> 00:24:14.100
  • SEPTEMBER GIFT OFFER IS THE
  • 00:24:14.100 --> 00:24:15.070
  • I READ IT TODAY.
  • 00:24:15.070 --> 00:24:16.160
  • FOR SAFE," IS ACTUALLY ONE OF
  • 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:17.280
  • MONTH.
  • 00:24:17.280 --> 00:24:19.160
  • I WAS JUST GONNA POWER READ IT,
  • 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.230
  • AND, YOU KNOW, JUST -- BOOM-
  • 00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:22.140
  • BOOM!
  • 00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:23.170
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:24:23.170 --> 00:24:24.200
  • - PHIL: AND I JUST-- IT JUST
  • 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:27.050
  • CAME-- IT FLOWED SO FREELY,
  • 00:24:27.050 --> 00:24:28.040
  • LIKE HONEY, AND I JUST -- BOOM!
  • 00:24:28.040 --> 00:24:28.260
  • -- NEXT THING I KNOW, I'M 45,
  • 00:24:28.260 --> 00:24:29.290
  • 50 MINUTES LATER, AND, UH, I'M
  • 00:24:29.290 --> 00:24:32.020
  • IN.
  • 00:24:32.170 --> 00:24:35.170
  • AND SO, I HOPE YOU WILL
  • 00:24:35.170 --> 00:24:36.160
  • CONSIDER, TOO -- CHECK THIS OUT
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  • -- OUR GIFT OFFER,
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  • - TOM NEWMAN: AT TBN, WE ARE
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  • PASSIONATE ABOUT GIVING MEN AND
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  • WOMEN THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO
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  • BECOME ALL THAT GOD DESIGNED
  • 00:24:44.250 --> 00:24:45.150
  • HI.
  • 00:24:48.140 --> 00:24:49.040
  • I'M TOM NEWMAN.
  • 00:24:49.040 --> 00:24:49.180
  • AND AS A FATHER, I'VE ALWAYS
  • 00:24:49.180 --> 00:24:50.190
  • ENCOURAGED MY OWN DAUGHTER
  • 00:24:50.190 --> 00:24:51.210
  • CHERYL TO GROW IN CONFIDENCE,
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  • LIVE WITH PURPOSE, AND WALK IN
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  • AND I BELIEVE THAT GOD DESIRES
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  • FOR ALL OF HIS DAUGHTERS TO
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  • SO, IN APPRECIATION OF YOUR
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  • - PHIL: WELCOME BACK.
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  • I'M PHIL MUNSEY AND WE'RE HERE
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  • GUESTS THAT, FIRST OF ALL,
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  • JUST THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
  • 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:54.090
  • - PHIL: AND THANK YOU FOR JUST
  • 00:26:57.090 --> 00:26:58.010
  • BEING SO OPEN AND HONEST AND
  • 00:26:58.010 --> 00:26:58.240
  • HELPING PEOPLE.
  • 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:01.010
  • SARAH, BEFORE WE WENT TO THE
  • 00:27:01.010 --> 00:27:03.020
  • SPOT WE WERE TALKIN' ABOUT,
  • 00:27:03.020 --> 00:27:05.080
  • JUST THIS WHOLE JOURNEY...
  • 00:27:05.080 --> 00:27:06.000
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:06.290
  • - PHIL: ...THIS BOOK THAT
  • 00:27:06.290 --> 00:27:07.180
  • WE'RE FEATURING IS ACTUALLY
  • 00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:08.080
  • AND IT WAS BIRTHED OUT OF YOUR
  • 00:27:10.030 --> 00:27:11.080
  • FIRST BOOK, BEING "LOST AND
  • 00:27:11.080 --> 00:27:12.130
  • FOUND," WHERE, ACTUALLY, YOU
  • 00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:14.110
  • JUST STARTED GOING ON SOCIAL
  • 00:27:14.110 --> 00:27:15.200
  • MEDIA AND BEARING YOUR SOUL,
  • 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.000
  • AND, UH...WOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:18.210
  • - SARAH: YEAH, SO "LOST AND
  • 00:27:21.070 --> 00:27:21.270
  • FOUND" WAS A MEMOIR ABOUT MY
  • 00:27:21.270 --> 00:27:22.170
  • LIFE.
  • 00:27:22.170 --> 00:27:25.040
  • AND I SHARED IT BECAUSE I
  • 00:27:25.040 --> 00:27:25.230
  • STARTED A BLOG ONLINE WHEN I
  • 00:27:25.230 --> 00:27:27.020
  • JUST HAD THIS REVELATION THAT
  • 00:27:27.020 --> 00:27:28.170
  • OTHER PEOPLE HAD GONE THROUGH
  • 00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:30.200
  • WHAT I WAS SUFFERING WITH,
  • 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.110
  • OTHER PEOPLE KNEW WHAT IT WAS
  • 00:27:32.110 --> 00:27:33.020
  • LIKE TO HAVE SHAME, TO HAVE
  • 00:27:33.020 --> 00:27:34.160
  • GUILT, TO NOT BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:35.220
  • GOD'S BEST WAS POSSIBLE FOR
  • 00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:37.140
  • YOUR OWN LIFE BECAUSE OF WHAT
  • 00:27:37.140 --> 00:27:38.260
  • YOU'VE GONE THROUGH.
  • 00:27:38.260 --> 00:27:40.160
  • AND THE MORE I BEGAN SHARING
  • 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.090
  • THAT MESSAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA
  • 00:27:42.090 --> 00:27:42.290
  • THAT IT IS AVAILABLE TO US,
  • 00:27:42.290 --> 00:27:44.200
  • REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU'VE GONE
  • 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:45.270
  • THROUGH, MY BLOG HAD OVER A
  • 00:27:45.270 --> 00:27:47.140
  • MILLION HITS WITHIN THE FIRST
  • 00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:48.290
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:27:52.040 --> 00:27:52.290
  • - SARAH: AND, I JUST DECIDED
  • 00:27:52.290 --> 00:27:53.200
  • THAT I WANTED TO TELL MY STORY.
  • 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:54.120
  • I DIDN'T JUST WANNA BE THIS
  • 00:27:54.120 --> 00:27:55.020
  • TALKING HEAD OVER A COMPUTER
  • 00:27:55.020 --> 00:27:55.250
  • I WANTED THEM TO KNOW, YOU
  • 00:27:58.190 --> 00:27:59.170
  • KNOW, NOT ONLY HAD I HAD A TEEN
  • 00:27:59.170 --> 00:28:00.110
  • PREGNANCY, BUT I DROPPED OUT OF
  • 00:28:00.110 --> 00:28:01.130
  • COLLEGE, AND I WAS IN A TOXIC
  • 00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:03.090
  • RELATIONSHIP, EMOTIONALLY AND
  • 00:28:03.090 --> 00:28:04.200
  • PHYSICALLY ABUSIVE
  • 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.140
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:08.090
  • AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT
  • 00:28:08.090 --> 00:28:09.190
  • STORY BECAUSE WHEN WE FIND
  • 00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:11.280
  • OURSELVES SUFFERING AND
  • 00:28:11.280 --> 00:28:13.140
  • STRUGGLING, WE OFTEN MAKE
  • 00:28:13.140 --> 00:28:14.040
  • DECISIONS OUT OF THAT
  • 00:28:14.040 --> 00:28:14.280
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:28:17.050 --> 00:28:17.280
  • - SARAH: ...THAT MAKE US EVEN
  • 00:28:17.280 --> 00:28:18.190
  • MORE BROKEN.
  • 00:28:18.190 --> 00:28:19.250
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:28:19.250 --> 00:28:20.130
  • - SARAH: AND SO, I WANTED TO
  • 00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:21.040
  • BREAK THAT CURSE OFF OF WOMEN
  • 00:28:21.040 --> 00:28:21.250
  • LIKE ME, EVEN MEN WHO HAVE
  • 00:28:21.250 --> 00:28:22.160
  • EXPERIENCED THEIR OWN ISSUES.
  • 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.060
  • AND SO, FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT'S
  • 00:28:24.060 --> 00:28:25.130
  • "LOST AND FOUND" WAS ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:28:25.130 --> 00:28:26.140
  • IT WAS TELLING MY STORY.
  • 00:28:26.140 --> 00:28:28.280
  • BUT FOR "DON'T SETTLE FOR
  • 00:28:28.280 --> 00:28:29.270
  • SAFE," I WANTED TO GIVE THEM
  • 00:28:29.270 --> 00:28:30.170
  • PRACTICAL TOOLS.
  • 00:28:30.170 --> 00:28:31.290
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:28:31.290 --> 00:28:32.150
  • - SARAH: OKAY, YOU KNOW MY
  • 00:28:32.150 --> 00:28:33.210
  • STORY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE GONE
  • 00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:34.120
  • THROUGH--
  • 00:28:34.120 --> 00:28:34.290
  • - PHIL: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:28:34.290 --> 00:28:35.150
  • - SARAH: --BUT LET'S TALK
  • 00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:36.040
  • ABOUT YOUR STORY AND HOW WE CAN
  • 00:28:36.040 --> 00:28:36.260
  • BREAK THAT PATTERNS THAT EXIST
  • 00:28:36.260 --> 00:28:38.060
  • WITHIN YOUR LIFE SO THAT YOU
  • 00:28:38.060 --> 00:28:39.020
  • CAN LIVE IN THE FULLNESS AND
  • 00:28:39.020 --> 00:28:40.130
  • FREEDOM OF WHO GOD HAS CALLED
  • 00:28:40.130 --> 00:28:42.040
  • - PHIL: NOW, ACTUALLY, I THINK
  • 00:28:44.060 --> 00:28:44.280
  • WHAT'S AMAZING AS I WAS READING
  • 00:28:44.280 --> 00:28:45.200
  • THE BOOK TODAY -- BOTH OF
  • 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:46.090
  • YOU -- UH, YOU GUYS--
  • 00:28:46.090 --> 00:28:48.270
  • YOU KNOW, I HEARD ONE TIME
  • 00:28:48.270 --> 00:28:49.160
  • SOMEBODY SAY: TIME IS GOD'S WAY
  • 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:50.290
  • OF MAKING SURE EVERYTHING
  • 00:28:50.290 --> 00:28:53.000
  • DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THE SAME
  • 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:53.190
  • TIME.
  • 00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:55.080
  • BUT, ACTUALLY, AS I WAS READING
  • 00:28:55.080 --> 00:28:56.170
  • THE BOOK, I'M LIKE: NO, IT IS
  • 00:28:56.170 --> 00:28:58.090
  • ALL HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME
  • 00:28:58.090 --> 00:28:59.000
  • FOR YOU GUYS.
  • 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:29:01.010 --> 00:29:01.200
  • I MEAN, TYPICALLY, YOU GET
  • 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.090
  • MARRIED, YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
  • 00:29:02.090 --> 00:29:03.100
  • I MEAN, YOU HAVE SIX
  • 00:29:03.100 --> 00:29:04.290
  • CHILDREN...
  • 00:29:04.290 --> 00:29:06.190
  • - SARAH: YES.
  • 00:29:06.190 --> 00:29:07.160
  • - PHIL: ...RANGING A 20-YEAR
  • 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:08.170
  • GAP BETWEEN ELLA AND THE OLDEST
  • 00:29:08.170 --> 00:29:10.050
  • - SARAH: REN.
  • 00:29:12.150 --> 00:29:13.070
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:29:13.070 --> 00:29:13.270
  • - PHIL: SO, AT THE SAME TIME
  • 00:29:13.270 --> 00:29:14.180
  • YOU'RE CHANGING DIAPERS, YOU'RE
  • 00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:15.170
  • DEALING WITH CO-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:29:15.170 --> 00:29:17.010
  • WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO TO
  • 00:29:17.010 --> 00:29:17.200
  • COLLEGE?
  • 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:18.120
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:18.270
  • - PHIL: YOU'RE DEALING WITH
  • 00:29:18.270 --> 00:29:19.170
  • DRIVER'S LICENSE AND TODDLER
  • 00:29:19.170 --> 00:29:20.070
  • CHAIRS AND LEARNING HOW TO
  • 00:29:20.070 --> 00:29:20.260
  • TEACH ONE TO WALK, WHILE THE
  • 00:29:20.260 --> 00:29:21.160
  • OTHER ONE, YOU'RE LIKE, "GET
  • 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:22.060
  • BACK HERE."
  • 00:29:22.060 --> 00:29:22.200
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:23.050
  • I MEAN, UH...
  • 00:29:23.050 --> 00:29:25.000
  • - SARAH: FOR SURE.
  • 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:25.230
  • - PHIL: SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY
  • 00:29:25.230 --> 00:29:26.130
  • STEP-- NOW, YOU'RE PASTORING
  • 00:29:26.130 --> 00:29:27.030
  • TWO CHURCHES -- ONE IN DENVER
  • 00:29:27.030 --> 00:29:28.000
  • AND ONE IN L.A.
  • 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.030
  • SO, EVERY DAY -- THIS IS NOT
  • 00:29:29.030 --> 00:29:31.040
  • SOME BUBBLE YOU LIVIN' IN.
  • 00:29:31.040 --> 00:29:32.180
  • YOU'RE LIVING IT OUT!
  • 00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:34.070
  • [PASTOR TOURÉ CHUCKLES]
  • 00:29:34.070 --> 00:29:35.160
  • UH, IT'S PRETTY WILD.
  • 00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:36.030
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:29:36.030 --> 00:29:36.170
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:29:36.170 --> 00:29:37.070
  • [CHUCKLING]
  • 00:29:37.070 --> 00:29:37.190
  • WE MET IN THE AIR.
  • 00:29:37.190 --> 00:29:38.120
  • WE ALWAYS SAY WE LITERALLY MET
  • 00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:39.190
  • IN THE AIR.
  • 00:29:39.190 --> 00:29:40.140
  • UH, OUR BOOKS WERE COMING OUT,
  • 00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:42.180
  • OUR FIRST BOOKS WERE COMING
  • 00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:43.160
  • OUT, JUST A MONTH APART.
  • 00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.220
  • AND WE MET-- IT WAS JUST A-- IT
  • 00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:46.190
  • WAS ACTUALLY A MEETING TO TALK
  • 00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:48.050
  • ABOUT OUR BOOKS AND SO THAT
  • 00:29:48.050 --> 00:29:49.250
  • SARAH COULD COME TO OUR CHURCH
  • 00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:50.210
  • AND SPEAK.
  • 00:29:50.210 --> 00:29:51.210
  • AND, UH...AND SO WE MET IN THE
  • 00:29:51.210 --> 00:29:54.060
  • AIR, WE'RE ON BOOK TOURS, WE
  • 00:29:54.060 --> 00:29:55.250
  • FELL IN LOVE IN THE AIR, AND, I
  • 00:29:55.250 --> 00:29:57.250
  • DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE COME
  • 00:29:57.250 --> 00:29:58.150
  • DOWN SINCE.
  • 00:29:58.150 --> 00:29:59.100
  • [PHIL LAUGHS]
  • 00:29:59.100 --> 00:29:59.230
  • - SARAH: NO...
  • 00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:00.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:00.070 --> 00:30:02.120
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:30:02.120 --> 00:30:04.010
  • - PHIL: YEAH...YEAH.
  • 00:30:04.010 --> 00:30:06.010
  • NO, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT
  • 00:30:06.010 --> 00:30:06.220
  • BECAUSE BOTH OF YOU,
  • 00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.230
  • YOU MENTIONED A BLENDED FAMILY.
  • 00:30:08.230 --> 00:30:11.020
  • YOU HAD TWO CHILDREN, MAKENZIE
  • 00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:14.180
  • AND...
  • 00:30:14.180 --> 00:30:15.100
  • - SARAH: MALACHI.
  • 00:30:15.100 --> 00:30:16.000
  • - PHIL: ...MALACHI.
  • 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:17.020
  • AND THEN YOU HAD...
  • 00:30:17.020 --> 00:30:19.010
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: REN, TEYA, AND
  • 00:30:19.010 --> 00:30:20.030
  • ISAIAH.
  • 00:30:20.030 --> 00:30:21.190
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:22.030
  • AND THEN, YOU COME TOGE-- AND
  • 00:30:22.030 --> 00:30:24.020
  • THEN, OF COURSE, I REMEMBER TWO
  • 00:30:24.020 --> 00:30:24.240
  • THING.
  • 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:25.180
  • [PASTOR TOURÉ CHUCKLES]
  • 00:30:25.180 --> 00:30:26.080
  • I REMEMBER, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN
  • 00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:26.290
  • YOU WERE TELLING ME THAT YOU
  • 00:30:26.290 --> 00:30:27.190
  • WERE IN LOVE.
  • 00:30:27.190 --> 00:30:28.020
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:30:28.020 --> 00:30:28.220
  • - PHIL: I CAN TELL YOU WHERE I
  • 00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:29.140
  • WAS AT.
  • 00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:29.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:30.050
  • WE WERE AT THE OLD RANCH...
  • 00:30:30.050 --> 00:30:30.250
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:31.190
  • - PHIL: CALIFORNIA...
  • 00:30:31.190 --> 00:30:32.060
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:30:32.060 --> 00:30:33.000
  • - PHIL: ...IN FRONT OF A DON
  • 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:33.210
  • JUAN RESTAURANT.
  • 00:30:33.210 --> 00:30:34.050
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: RIGHT.
  • 00:30:34.050 --> 00:30:34.250
  • - PHIL: AND YOU WERE TELLING
  • 00:30:34.250 --> 00:30:35.160
  • ME.
  • 00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:35.240
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.110
  • - PHIL: AND I'M LIKE, "OKAY."
  • 00:30:37.110 --> 00:30:38.020
  • AND THEN, I REMEMBER, ALSO,
  • 00:30:38.020 --> 00:30:39.110
  • GETTING THE CALL FROM YOU RIGHT
  • 00:30:39.110 --> 00:30:40.060
  • AFTER THE DOCTOR GAVE YOU THE
  • 00:30:40.060 --> 00:30:40.270
  • REPORT THAT YOU WERE GONNA BE
  • 00:30:40.270 --> 00:30:41.260
  • WITH CHILD.
  • 00:30:41.260 --> 00:30:43.130
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH...OH,
  • 00:30:43.130 --> 00:30:44.050
  • YEAH.
  • 00:30:44.050 --> 00:30:44.140
  • - PHIL: AND I REMEMBER SAYING
  • 00:30:44.140 --> 00:30:45.050
  • THIS WAS NOW THE ETERNITY
  • 00:30:45.050 --> 00:30:46.060
  • HAVING LINKED NOW THE DNA OF
  • 00:30:46.060 --> 00:30:47.180
  • GENERATIONS THAT BROUGHT YOU
  • 00:30:47.180 --> 00:30:49.210
  • TOGETHER-- WAS NOW SEALED IN
  • 00:30:49.210 --> 00:30:50.200
  • THIS.
  • 00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:53.250
  • SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:55.040
  • AMAZING TO SEE--
  • 00:30:55.170 --> 00:30:58.170
  • UH, TOURÉ, WHAT DO YOU THINK
  • 00:30:58.170 --> 00:30:59.100
  • BECOMES THE MOST IMPORTANT
  • 00:30:59.100 --> 00:31:00.220
  • ELEMENT THAT HAS NOT ONLY MADE
  • 00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:05.120
  • THIS STORY SO COMPELLING BUT
  • 00:31:05.120 --> 00:31:06.280
  • KEEPS YOU IN IT?
  • 00:31:07.210 --> 00:31:10.210
  • AND ESPECIALLY NOW,
  • 00:31:10.210 --> 00:31:11.070
  • WATCHING GOD JUST THRUST YOU.
  • 00:31:11.070 --> 00:31:11.280
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:31:11.280 --> 00:31:13.050
  • - PHIL: A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
  • 00:31:13.050 --> 00:31:14.210
  • SUCCESS IS A REWARD; IT'S
  • 00:31:14.210 --> 00:31:15.150
  • ACTUALLY A RESPONSIBILITY.
  • 00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:16.040
  • - SARAH: HOOWH!
  • 00:31:16.040 --> 00:31:16.180
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:17.110
  • - PHIL: HOW DID YOU GET HERE--
  • 00:31:17.110 --> 00:31:18.030
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: IT IS.
  • 00:31:18.030 --> 00:31:18.230
  • - PHIL: --AND HOW ARE YOU
  • 00:31:18.230 --> 00:31:19.240
  • SUSTAINING?
  • 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:20.060
  • WHAT'S THE KEY?
  • 00:31:20.060 --> 00:31:20.260
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH, UH, I
  • 00:31:20.260 --> 00:31:21.280
  • I DO BELIEVE IN ALIGNING
  • 00:31:26.060 --> 00:31:28.040
  • YOURSELF WITH GOD, BEING
  • 00:31:28.040 --> 00:31:29.230
  • RADICALLY OBEDIENT, TRUSTING
  • 00:31:29.230 --> 00:31:32.050
  • HIM, TRUSTING HIS LOVE ENOUGH
  • 00:31:32.050 --> 00:31:34.060
  • TO KNOW THAT HE'S GOT AN
  • 00:31:34.060 --> 00:31:35.000
  • INCREDIBLE PLAN.
  • 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.050
  • AND IF YOU WOULD YIELD TO IT
  • 00:31:37.050 --> 00:31:37.250
  • AND SURRENDER TO IT, THINGS ARE
  • 00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:39.120
  • GONNA BE AMAZING.
  • 00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:41.070
  • YOU WILL TRULY BECOME, AS MY
  • 00:31:41.070 --> 00:31:42.020
  • WIFE'S BOOK SAYS, UNSTOPPABLE.
  • 00:31:42.020 --> 00:31:44.160
  • I THINK, FOR US, ONE OF THE
  • 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.260
  • THINGS GOD DID IN OUR LIVES
  • 00:31:46.260 --> 00:31:48.200
  • VERY EARLY ON IN OUR
  • 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.090
  • RELATIONSHIP -- VERY, VERY,
  • 00:31:50.090 --> 00:31:51.250
  • VERY EARLY ON -- WAS TO CONFIRM
  • 00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:53.250
  • UH, WE FELL IN LOVE PRETTY
  • 00:31:56.270 --> 00:31:58.070
  • QUICKLY.
  • 00:31:58.070 --> 00:31:58.190
  • WE KNEW AFTER OUR FIRST DAY
  • 00:31:58.190 --> 00:32:01.000
  • THAT WE WERE TO BE MARRIED.
  • 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:01.200
  • NOW, I'M THE TYPE OF PASTOR --
  • 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:02.110
  • I SPEAK AGAINST THAT.
  • 00:32:02.110 --> 00:32:03.040
  • [PHIL LAUGHS]
  • 00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:03.200
  • I DO.
  • 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.080
  • IT'S LIKE YOU COME TO ME, YOU
  • 00:32:04.080 --> 00:32:05.010
  • KNOW, YOUR CONGREGATION MEMBERS
  • 00:32:05.010 --> 00:32:06.120
  • COME TO YOU AND THEY'RE LIKE,
  • 00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:08.000
  • "PASTOR, WE JUST MET HIM AND
  • 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.240
  • HE'S MY HUSBAND."
  • 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.010
  • I'M LIKE, "HEY, SLOW DOWN, HOLD
  • 00:32:10.010 --> 00:32:11.260
  • OFF."
  • 00:32:11.260 --> 00:32:12.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:12.260 --> 00:32:13.110
  • SO, I WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD
  • 00:32:13.110 --> 00:32:14.060
  • REALLY SPEAK AGAINST THAT,
  • 00:32:14.060 --> 00:32:16.150
  • BUT...BUT GOD SPOKE TO BOTH OF
  • 00:32:16.150 --> 00:32:18.010
  • US.
  • 00:32:18.010 --> 00:32:19.090
  • AND SO, IT WAS ACCELERATED
  • 00:32:19.090 --> 00:32:20.000
  • FROM THE START.
  • 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:20.180
  • BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU
  • 00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:22.030
  • KNOW SOMETHING IS GOD -- AND
  • 00:32:22.070 --> 00:32:25.070
  • THIS IS DEFINITELY A GOD THING
  • 00:32:25.070 --> 00:32:26.160
  • -- AND THE FRUIT THAT HAS
  • 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.150
  • TRANSPIRED IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE
  • 00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:29.150
  • PAST FOUR YEARS IS EVIDENT.
  • 00:32:29.150 --> 00:32:30.120
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:32:30.120 --> 00:32:31.210
  • BUT, FOR ME, WHAT DRIVES ME IS
  • 00:32:31.210 --> 00:32:34.050
  • I KNOW THIS IS GOD.
  • 00:32:34.050 --> 00:32:34.210
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:32:34.210 --> 00:32:35.200
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: I KNOW THAT
  • 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:36.130
  • WHATEVER HE CALLS US TO DO, YOU
  • 00:32:36.130 --> 00:32:37.050
  • KNOW, YES, IT'S GOING TO BE
  • 00:32:37.050 --> 00:32:38.070
  • CHALLENGING.
  • 00:32:38.070 --> 00:32:38.210
  • YES, IT'S GONNA STRETCH US.
  • 00:32:38.210 --> 00:32:40.210
  • BUT IT'S GONNA BE AMAZING AND
  • 00:32:40.210 --> 00:32:42.090
  • IT'S GONNA BE DESTINED.
  • 00:32:42.090 --> 00:32:43.180
  • AND SO...SO, FOR ME, IT'S
  • 00:32:43.180 --> 00:32:44.240
  • ALIGNMENT -- ALWAYS PURSUING
  • 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.070
  • ALIGNMENT, ALWAYS SEARCHING
  • 00:32:46.070 --> 00:32:48.250
  • YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW, ASKING
  • 00:32:48.250 --> 00:32:50.060
  • THE TOUGH QUESTIONS.
  • 00:32:50.060 --> 00:32:50.260
  • I MEAN, FOR US, DENVER -- WE
  • 00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:53.160
  • HAD JUST GOT ONE CHURCH L.A.
  • 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.170
  • OFF THE GROUND.
  • 00:32:55.170 --> 00:32:56.140
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:32:56.140 --> 00:32:57.090
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: WE HAD JUST
  • 00:32:57.090 --> 00:32:58.020
  • SETTLED INTO OUR NEW HOME, OUR
  • 00:32:58.020 --> 00:32:58.230
  • DREAM HOME, YOU KNOW, JUST
  • 00:32:58.230 --> 00:32:59.250
  • OUTSIDE OF LOS ANGELES.
  • 00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:02.000
  • AND THEN, GOD SAYS: DENVER.
  • 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.250
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:33:04.250 --> 00:33:05.240
  • AND ONCE WE KNEW THAT IT WAS
  • 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.010
  • REALLY GOD, WE WERE WILLING TO
  • 00:33:07.010 --> 00:33:07.290
  • LET GO OF EVERYTHING THAT HAD
  • 00:33:07.290 --> 00:33:09.070
  • BECOME COMFORTABLE.
  • 00:33:09.070 --> 00:33:11.080
  • WE DIDN'T WANNA SETTLE FOR
  • 00:33:11.080 --> 00:33:12.010
  • SAFE.
  • 00:33:12.010 --> 00:33:12.270
  • WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SAFE.
  • 00:33:12.270 --> 00:33:13.190
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:33:13.190 --> 00:33:14.050
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:33:14.050 --> 00:33:15.000
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: BUT WE WERE
  • 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:15.230
  • WILLING TO LET IT GO, AND WE
  • 00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:16.130
  • STEPPED OUT ON FAITH, AND GOD
  • 00:33:16.130 --> 00:33:17.040
  • HAS JUST BLESSED US
  • 00:33:17.040 --> 00:33:19.120
  • TREMENDOUSLY.
  • 00:33:19.120 --> 00:33:20.100
  • AND, OUR KIDS ARE COVERED.
  • 00:33:20.100 --> 00:33:21.090
  • IT'S LIKE ALL THINGS WORK
  • 00:33:21.090 --> 00:33:23.040
  • TOGETHER FOR GOOD.
  • 00:33:23.040 --> 00:33:24.000
  • WE'RE SO BUSY TRYING TO HOLD ON
  • 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.140
  • TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS OKAY
  • 00:33:25.140 --> 00:33:27.040
  • AND THAT, YOU KNOW, "WELL, LET
  • 00:33:27.040 --> 00:33:28.190
  • ME JUST FIX THIS, GOD, AND THEN
  • 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:30.000
  • I'LL COME AND SERVE YOU,"--
  • 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:30.260
  • - PHIL: YEAH...YEAH.
  • 00:33:30.260 --> 00:33:31.150
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: --NOT
  • 00:33:31.150 --> 00:33:32.060
  • REALIZING THAT WHEN SEEK FIRST
  • 00:33:32.060 --> 00:33:33.050
  • HIS KINGDOM AND HIS
  • 00:33:33.050 --> 00:33:34.110
  • RIGHTEOUSNESS, HE'S ALREADY GOT
  • 00:33:34.110 --> 00:33:35.250
  • ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS WORKED
  • 00:33:35.250 --> 00:33:37.200
  • OUT.
  • 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.150
  • AND SO, FOR ME, AGAIN, IT'S
  • 00:33:38.150 --> 00:33:39.190
  • ALIGNMENT, IT'S OBEDIENCE, AND
  • 00:33:39.190 --> 00:33:41.170
  • IT'S KNOWING THAT THIS IS A GOD
  • 00:33:41.170 --> 00:33:44.010
  • THING AND WE'VE FOUND
  • 00:33:44.010 --> 00:33:46.110
  • TREMENDOUS NOT ONLY SUCCESS BUT
  • 00:33:46.110 --> 00:33:48.090
  • SIGNIFICANCE IN FOLLOWING THE
  • 00:33:48.090 --> 00:33:49.160
  • PATH OF ALIGNMENT.
  • 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:50.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:33:50.170 --> 00:33:52.190
  • - PHIL: WELL, I THINK--
  • 00:33:52.190 --> 00:33:53.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:33:53.070 --> 00:33:53.260
  • YEAH, I THINK IT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:33:53.260 --> 00:33:54.160
  • I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME JUST TO
  • 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.080
  • TALK ABOUT THAT ASPECT.
  • 00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:56.170
  • BUT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU--
  • 00:33:56.170 --> 00:33:58.220
  • UH, YOU ACTUALLY DID A TALK
  • 00:33:58.220 --> 00:34:00.110
  • ONCE, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS WHOLE
  • 00:34:00.110 --> 00:34:02.250
  • THING STARTED HAPPENING.
  • 00:34:02.250 --> 00:34:03.250
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:34:03.250 --> 00:34:05.040
  • - PHIL: YOU DID A TALK CALLED
  • 00:34:05.040 --> 00:34:07.040
  • "FINDING YOUR SOULMATE."
  • 00:34:07.040 --> 00:34:07.220
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:09.060
  • - PHIL: AND, UH, THAT EXPLODED
  • 00:34:09.060 --> 00:34:09.290
  • ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:34:09.290 --> 00:34:11.010
  • I MEAN, IT'S KICKING NEAR 3
  • 00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:12.080
  • MILLION VIEWS.
  • 00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:13.080
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:34:13.080 --> 00:34:15.120
  • - PHIL: UH...THAT-- THAT WAS
  • 00:34:15.120 --> 00:34:16.230
  • PRETTY AMAZING.
  • 00:34:16.230 --> 00:34:18.180
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:34:18.180 --> 00:34:19.110
  • VERY OPEN, VERY TRANSPARENT
  • 00:34:19.110 --> 00:34:21.270
  • ABOUT THINGS THAT I'D LEARN,
  • 00:34:21.270 --> 00:34:24.110
  • YOU KNOW, IN HARD ORDER.
  • 00:34:24.110 --> 00:34:26.100
  • UM, BUT, YEAH, IT WAS FIVE KEYS
  • 00:34:26.100 --> 00:34:27.100
  • TO IDENTIFYING YOUR SOULMATE.
  • 00:34:27.100 --> 00:34:28.010
  • YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK
  • 00:34:28.010 --> 00:34:30.240
  • REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID,
  • 00:34:30.240 --> 00:34:31.280
  • "YOU KNOW, CAN YOU TEACH ABOUT
  • 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.110
  • MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE AND
  • 00:34:33.110 --> 00:34:35.020
  • AND I WAS CHALLENGED BECAUSE,
  • 00:34:37.130 --> 00:34:38.040
  • YOU KNOW, I HAD GONE THROUGH A
  • 00:34:38.040 --> 00:34:39.110
  • DIVORCE AND I WAS EMBARRASSED,
  • 00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:40.020
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:34:40.020 --> 00:34:42.050
  • AND HOW COULD I BE, YOU KNOW, A
  • 00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:42.270
  • MAN OF GOD AND SOMETHING SO
  • 00:34:43.070 --> 00:34:46.070
  • PAINFUL HAPPEN TO ME?
  • 00:34:46.140 --> 00:34:49.140
  • YOU KNOW, AND, UH...BUT, THERE
  • 00:34:49.140 --> 00:34:52.090
  • WAS FREEDOM IN TALKING ABOUT IT
  • 00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:53.050
  • AND SO I WAS TRANSPARENT.
  • 00:34:53.050 --> 00:34:54.100
  • AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:34:54.100 --> 00:34:55.110
  • DIVORCE WAS IN THE PAST AND I
  • 00:34:55.110 --> 00:34:56.020
  • WE WEREN'T MARRIED YET.
  • 00:34:59.010 --> 00:35:00.080
  • BUT THERE WAS SO MANY THINGS
  • 00:35:00.080 --> 00:35:00.280
  • THAT I HAD LEARNED ABOUT LOVE
  • 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:01.190
  • AND MARRIAGE AND A RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:35:01.190 --> 00:35:02.110
  • AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL THE
  • 00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:03.020
  • WORLD THOSE FIVE KEYS TO
  • 00:35:03.020 --> 00:35:04.080
  • IDENTIFYING YOUR SOULMATE.
  • 00:35:04.080 --> 00:35:04.270
  • THE FIRST KEY WAS CHEMISTRY.
  • 00:35:04.270 --> 00:35:06.230
  • OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:35:06.230 --> 00:35:08.210
  • YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF
  • 00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:09.240
  • CHEMISTRY.
  • 00:35:09.240 --> 00:35:10.110
  • BUT YOU CAN'T STOP THERE
  • 00:35:10.110 --> 00:35:11.070
  • BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE CHEMISTRY
  • 00:35:11.070 --> 00:35:12.110
  • WITH FIVE PEOPLE.
  • 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:16.110
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:35:16.110 --> 00:35:16.280
  • IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE YOUR
  • 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.180
  • SOULMATE.
  • 00:35:17.180 --> 00:35:17.290
  • AND SO, YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY
  • 00:35:17.290 --> 00:35:19.110
  • THAT CHEMISTRY THROUGH
  • 00:35:19.110 --> 00:35:19.280
  • CONNECTION, WHEN GOD REALLY
  • 00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:20.260
  • BEGINS TO BRING THIS DEEP
  • 00:35:20.260 --> 00:35:21.260
  • DESIRE.
  • 00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:24.010
  • IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS IS MORE
  • 00:35:24.010 --> 00:35:25.130
  • THAN JUST, "YOU'RE CUTE," OR
  • 00:35:25.130 --> 00:35:26.220
  • "WE'RE THINKING ON THE SAME
  • 00:35:26.220 --> 00:35:27.290
  • LEVEL."
  • 00:35:27.290 --> 00:35:29.140
  • THERE'S A SOUL CONNECTION.
  • 00:35:29.140 --> 00:35:31.050
  • BUT EVEN STILL, THAT HAS TO BE
  • 00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:32.250
  • QUALIFIED.
  • 00:35:32.250 --> 00:35:33.180
  • SO, THE THIRD STEP WAS
  • 00:35:33.180 --> 00:35:34.230
  • WHOLENESS.
  • 00:35:34.230 --> 00:35:35.140
  • YOU GOTTA BE WHOLE BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:35:35.140 --> 00:35:37.000
  • WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S
  • 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.050
  • DRAWING YOU TO ONE ANOTHER IS
  • 00:35:39.050 --> 00:35:39.260
  • NOT YOUR MUTUAL BROKENNESS.
  • 00:35:39.260 --> 00:35:41.000
  • YOU KNOW, WE CALL IT
  • 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:41.230
  • CODEPENDENCY MASQUERADING
  • 00:35:41.230 --> 00:35:43.050
  • ITSELF AS LOVE.
  • 00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:44.170
  • SO, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT
  • 00:35:44.170 --> 00:35:46.040
  • WASN'T THAT.
  • 00:35:46.040 --> 00:35:46.240
  • SO, BEING WHOLE IS BEING ABLE
  • 00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:48.110
  • TO SAY: YOU KNOW WHAT, GOD?
  • 00:35:48.110 --> 00:35:49.090
  • I'M GOOD ALL BY MYSELF.
  • 00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:50.190
  • I DON'T NEED ANYONE.
  • 00:35:50.190 --> 00:35:51.230
  • YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS YOU, THEN,
  • 00:35:51.230 --> 00:35:52.290
  • FINE.
  • 00:35:52.290 --> 00:35:55.020
  • BUT IF IT'S NOT, ME AND YOU ARE
  • 00:35:55.020 --> 00:35:56.090
  • GONNA BE IN LOVE AND WE'RE
  • 00:35:56.090 --> 00:35:57.280
  • GONNA BE HAPPY AND HEALTHY AND
  • 00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.080
  • I'M COOL UNTIL YOU BRING THE
  • 00:35:59.080 --> 00:36:00.130
  • PERSON INTO OUR LIVES.
  • 00:36:00.130 --> 00:36:02.130
  • SO, THIRD STEP IS WHOLENESS.
  • 00:36:02.130 --> 00:36:03.030
  • WHOLENESS QUALIFIES THAT THAT
  • 00:36:03.030 --> 00:36:03.250
  • IS LOVE.
  • 00:36:03.250 --> 00:36:05.140
  • AND THEN, I THINK THAT BEFORE
  • 00:36:05.140 --> 00:36:06.200
  • YOU CAN MOVE ON, YOU NEED
  • 00:36:06.200 --> 00:36:07.220
  • DIVINE CONFIRMATION.
  • 00:36:07.220 --> 00:36:08.220
  • GOD, IS THIS THE PERSON THAT
  • 00:36:08.220 --> 00:36:10.090
  • YOU HAVE FOR ME?
  • 00:36:10.090 --> 00:36:11.150
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:36:11.150 --> 00:36:12.290
  • AND, GOD HAS TO SAY YES.
  • 00:36:12.290 --> 00:36:14.150
  • AND YOU HAVE TO BE STILL ENOUGH
  • 00:36:14.150 --> 00:36:15.180
  • FOR HIM TO SAY YES.
  • 00:36:15.180 --> 00:36:16.040
  • YOU CAN'T WANT IT SO BAD THAT
  • 00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:18.160
  • YOU'RE LIKE: (SPEAKING RAPIDLY)
  • 00:36:18.160 --> 00:36:19.120
  • "GOD, IS THIS THE PERSON FOR
  • 00:36:19.120 --> 00:36:20.020
  • ME?
  • 00:36:20.020 --> 00:36:20.210
  • BECAUSE I REALIZED THIS
  • 00:36:20.210 --> 00:36:21.090
  • PERSON-- I REALLY WANT THIS TO
  • 00:36:21.090 --> 00:36:22.000
  • BE"--
  • 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:22.090
  • NO, NO, NO.
  • 00:36:22.090 --> 00:36:22.220
  • [SARAH CHUCKLES]
  • 00:36:22.220 --> 00:36:23.150
  • YOU ASK THE QUESTION AND THEN
  • 00:36:23.150 --> 00:36:24.220
  • YOU WAIT FOR GOD TO AFFIRM YOU
  • 00:36:24.220 --> 00:36:26.030
  • -- AND BE WILLING TO PULL AN
  • 00:36:26.030 --> 00:36:28.020
  • ABRAHAM AND ISAAC.
  • 00:36:28.020 --> 00:36:29.060
  • IF IT'S NOT, I'M GONNA SET THIS
  • 00:36:29.060 --> 00:36:30.110
  • THING THAT I REALLY LIKE...
  • 00:36:30.110 --> 00:36:31.240
  • - PHIL: MMH...
  • 00:36:31.240 --> 00:36:32.150
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ...DOWN ON THE
  • 00:36:32.150 --> 00:36:33.090
  • TABLE.
  • 00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:33.200
  • AND, GOD, IF YOU GIVE IT BACK
  • 00:36:33.200 --> 00:36:34.110
  • TO ME, IT'S MINE.
  • 00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:35.090
  • IF YOU DON'T, THEN I'LL LEAVE
  • 00:36:35.090 --> 00:36:36.020
  • IT.
  • 00:36:36.020 --> 00:36:37.250
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:36:37.250 --> 00:36:40.170
  • AND WE'VE HAD TO--
  • 00:36:40.170 --> 00:36:42.030
  • AND WE'VE DONE THAT.
  • 00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:43.290
  • AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN OUR
  • 00:36:43.290 --> 00:36:45.260
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:47.170
  • BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE MET, WE
  • 00:36:47.170 --> 00:36:48.080
  • REALIZED THAT THERE WAS SUCH A
  • 00:36:48.080 --> 00:36:49.030
  • GREAT DESTINY ON OUR LIVES.
  • 00:36:49.030 --> 00:36:50.050
  • WE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO GET
  • 00:36:50.050 --> 00:36:52.070
  • IN THE WAY OF IT.
  • 00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:53.090
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:36:53.090 --> 00:36:54.160
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND SO, YOU
  • 00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:55.190
  • KNOW, EARLY ON, WE HAD TO SAY:
  • 00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:56.270
  • GOD, IF THIS IS NOT YOU...
  • 00:36:56.270 --> 00:36:57.200
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:36:57.200 --> 00:36:58.210
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ...THEN WE'RE
  • 00:36:58.210 --> 00:36:59.150
  • WILLING TO SACRIFICE IT.
  • 00:36:59.150 --> 00:37:00.160
  • YES, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE EACH
  • 00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:01.090
  • OTHER.
  • 00:37:01.090 --> 00:37:01.280
  • AND, YES, YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.040
  • AMAZING.
  • 00:37:03.040 --> 00:37:04.080
  • LOOK AT HERE.
  • 00:37:04.080 --> 00:37:04.230
  • I LOVE HER.
  • 00:37:04.230 --> 00:37:05.140
  • [PHIL LAUGHS]
  • 00:37:05.140 --> 00:37:06.040
  • YOU KNOW, BUT-- BUT, YES, ALL
  • 00:37:06.040 --> 00:37:06.250
  • THAT.
  • 00:37:06.250 --> 00:37:07.050
  • BUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR
  • 00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:09.050
  • DESTINY WAS MORE IMPORTANT.
  • 00:37:09.050 --> 00:37:09.250
  • AND THE LAST KEY WAS--
  • 00:37:09.250 --> 00:37:11.000
  • SO, YOU HAVE-- YOU HAVE TO HAVE
  • 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:11.220
  • CHEMISTRY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
  • 00:37:11.220 --> 00:37:12.250
  • CONNECTION, YOU HAVE TO BE
  • 00:37:12.250 --> 00:37:13.140
  • WHOLE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE DIVINE
  • 00:37:13.140 --> 00:37:14.110
  • CONFIRMATION.
  • 00:37:14.110 --> 00:37:17.010
  • AND THEN, THE FIFTH ONE WAS A
  • 00:37:17.010 --> 00:37:17.220
  • SENSE OF PURPOSE.
  • 00:37:17.220 --> 00:37:19.060
  • I BELIEVE THAT WHEN GOD BRINGS
  • 00:37:19.060 --> 00:37:19.270
  • PEOPLE TOGETHER, YES, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:37:19.270 --> 00:37:20.290
  • LOVE IS IN THE EQUATION.
  • 00:37:20.290 --> 00:37:22.260
  • BUT I THINK IT'S BIGGER THAN
  • 00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:23.170
  • LOVE.
  • 00:37:23.170 --> 00:37:24.070
  • I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT DESTINY.
  • 00:37:24.070 --> 00:37:25.170
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:37:25.170 --> 00:37:26.190
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND SO, WAS
  • 00:37:26.190 --> 00:37:27.120
  • THERE A SENSE OF PURPOSE.
  • 00:37:27.120 --> 00:37:28.020
  • AND WE ARE LIVING IT EVERY
  • 00:37:28.020 --> 00:37:28.210
  • SINGLE DAY.
  • 00:37:28.210 --> 00:37:29.170
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:37:29.170 --> 00:37:30.270
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:37:30.270 --> 00:37:31.100
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: IT'S
  • 00:37:31.100 --> 00:37:31.290
  • INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:37:31.290 --> 00:37:32.110
  • - PHIL: YEAH, I LOVE IT.
  • 00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:33.000
  • I WANNA GO BACK TO AN ELEMENT
  • 00:37:36.080 --> 00:37:36.290
  • THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT,
  • 00:37:36.290 --> 00:37:37.240
  • SARAH, ABOUT PEOPLE GROWING UP
  • 00:37:37.240 --> 00:37:38.150
  • IN THE CHURCH.
  • 00:37:38.150 --> 00:37:39.030
  • - SARAH: MMH...
  • 00:37:39.030 --> 00:37:39.270
  • - PHIL: AND THE STATISTICS ARE
  • 00:37:39.270 --> 00:37:42.140
  • PRETTY STAGGERING THAT A LOT OF
  • 00:37:42.140 --> 00:37:43.160
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE RAISED IN
  • 00:37:43.160 --> 00:37:45.090
  • CHURCH REJECT THE CHURCH.
  • 00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:47.020
  • PART OF WHAT LED TO THE WHOLE
  • 00:37:47.190 --> 00:37:50.190
  • MAKING BAD DECISIONS AND KIND
  • 00:37:50.190 --> 00:37:53.150
  • OF A-- THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF
  • 00:37:53.150 --> 00:37:55.130
  • WHERE YOU WERE AT WAS KIND OF
  • 00:37:55.180 --> 00:37:58.180
  • ROOTED IN THE FACT THAT YOU
  • 00:37:58.180 --> 00:37:59.150
  • REALLY KIND OF STRUGGLED WITH
  • 00:37:59.150 --> 00:38:02.170
  • THE CHURCH, IN SPITE OF THE
  • 00:38:02.170 --> 00:38:03.080
  • FACT THAT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:38:03.080 --> 00:38:04.020
  • I WOULD CALL YOUR DAD
  • 00:38:04.020 --> 00:38:05.080
  • THE WORLD'S GREATEST
  • 00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:07.220
  • PREACHER OF OUR DAY.
  • 00:38:07.220 --> 00:38:10.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:11.020
  • BUT, YOU STRUGGLED...
  • 00:38:11.020 --> 00:38:11.230
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:38:11.230 --> 00:38:13.230
  • - PHIL: ...WITH THE CHURCH
  • 00:38:13.230 --> 00:38:14.130
  • WITH WHAT YOU WERE SEEING FROM
  • 00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:15.040
  • - SARAH: YEAH, I THINK THAT I
  • 00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:20.080
  • REALLY TOOK CHURCH AND MADE IT
  • 00:38:20.080 --> 00:38:20.290
  • GOD.
  • 00:38:20.290 --> 00:38:23.200
  • AND SO, WHENEVER I SAW
  • 00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:24.070
  • SOMETHING HAPPEN IN CHURCH THAT
  • 00:38:24.070 --> 00:38:24.290
  • DIDN'T LOOK LIKE GOD, I WAS
  • 00:38:24.290 --> 00:38:25.190
  • DISAPPOINTED NOT JUST WITH THE
  • 00:38:25.190 --> 00:38:26.150
  • PEOPLE BUT WITH GOD, AS WELL.
  • 00:38:27.150 --> 00:38:30.150
  • AND SO, MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 00:38:30.150 --> 00:38:31.050
  • THE CHURCH BECAME COMPLICATED.
  • 00:38:31.050 --> 00:38:33.010
  • BECAUSE THOUGH THERE WERE THESE
  • 00:38:33.010 --> 00:38:35.170
  • POWERFUL MOMENTS, THERE WAS
  • 00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:36.140
  • ALSO HYPOCRISY, THERE WERE ALSO
  • 00:38:36.140 --> 00:38:37.100
  • PEOPLE WHO WERE MAKING
  • 00:38:37.100 --> 00:38:38.080
  • MISTAKES.
  • 00:38:38.080 --> 00:38:39.100
  • AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT MEANT
  • 00:38:39.100 --> 00:38:40.270
  • THAT GOD WASN'T GOOD THE WAY
  • 00:38:40.270 --> 00:38:42.090
  • THAT THEY WERE SAYING HE WAS
  • 00:38:42.090 --> 00:38:43.070
  • GOOD, THAT HE COULDN'T
  • 00:38:43.070 --> 00:38:44.040
  • TRANSFORM YOUR LIFE THE WAY
  • 00:38:44.040 --> 00:38:46.100
  • THAT EVERYONE SAYS HE COULD.
  • 00:38:46.100 --> 00:38:48.030
  • AND THEN, I THINK AS I'VE GROWN
  • 00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:49.180
  • OLDER AND REALLY EVOLVED IN MY
  • 00:38:51.050 --> 00:38:54.050
  • KNOWLEDGE OF-- LIFE IN
  • 00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:54.220
  • SALVATION IS A PROCESS.
  • 00:38:54.220 --> 00:38:55.270
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:38:55.270 --> 00:38:56.260
  • - SARAH: YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT
  • 00:38:56.260 --> 00:38:58.030
  • LIKE YOU JUST GET SAVED AND
  • 00:38:58.030 --> 00:38:59.000
  • THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE
  • 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:00.090
  • NO MORE ISSUES, YOU HAVE NO
  • 00:39:00.090 --> 00:39:00.290
  • MORE STRUGGLES.
  • 00:39:00.290 --> 00:39:01.200
  • IT'S A PROCESS.
  • 00:39:01.200 --> 00:39:02.040
  • AND SO, SOMETIMES, WE CAN BE SO
  • 00:39:02.040 --> 00:39:04.050
  • CONSUMED WITH CRITIQUING OTHER
  • 00:39:04.050 --> 00:39:05.290
  • PEOPLE'S PROCESS THAT WE BECOME
  • 00:39:05.290 --> 00:39:06.250
  • STAGNANT.
  • 00:39:06.250 --> 00:39:07.170
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:08.100
  • YEAH.
  • 00:39:08.100 --> 00:39:09.220
  • - SARAH: AND IN THAT MOMENT
  • 00:39:09.220 --> 00:39:11.120
  • WHEN WE'RE STAGNANT, IT GIVES
  • 00:39:11.120 --> 00:39:12.220
  • US A SIDELINE VIEW OF WATCHING
  • 00:39:12.220 --> 00:39:13.230
  • WHERE EVERYONE ELSE IS MESSING
  • 00:39:13.230 --> 00:39:14.190
  • UP.
  • 00:39:14.190 --> 00:39:16.270
  • BUT I REALLY THAT THAT HAD I
  • 00:39:16.270 --> 00:39:18.010
  • STOPPED LOOKING AT OTHER
  • 00:39:18.010 --> 00:39:18.190
  • PEOPLE'S LIVES AND FOCUSED ON
  • 00:39:18.190 --> 00:39:19.100
  • MY OWN THAT I PROBABLY WOULD
  • 00:39:19.100 --> 00:39:20.000
  • HAVE DISCOVERED MY OWN
  • 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:21.000
  • BROKENNESS MUCH SOONER.
  • 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.180
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:39:23.180 --> 00:39:24.240
  • - SARAH: BUT YOU WANNA BELIEVE
  • 00:39:24.240 --> 00:39:25.240
  • SOMETHING IS REAL.
  • 00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:28.130
  • AND SO, UM...I DECIDED TO SHARE
  • 00:39:28.130 --> 00:39:29.050
  • MY TESTIMONY -- NOT JUST THE
  • 00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:30.060
  • GOOD THINGS BUT THE DIFFICULT
  • 00:39:30.200 --> 00:39:33.200
  • THINGS: THE DIVORCE, THE TEEN
  • 00:39:33.200 --> 00:39:34.110
  • PREGNANCY.
  • 00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:34.240
  • BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT SOMEONE
  • 00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:36.230
  • IN THE PEWS TO THINK THAT YOU
  • 00:39:36.230 --> 00:39:37.210
  • MADE IT TO THE STAGE WITHOUT
  • 00:39:37.210 --> 00:39:38.180
  • ANY STRUGGLE.
  • 00:39:38.250 --> 00:39:41.250
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:39:41.250 --> 00:39:42.160
  • - SARAH: AND SO, WE ALL HAVE
  • 00:39:42.160 --> 00:39:43.090
  • OUR OWN JOURNEY TO WALK OUT.
  • 00:39:43.090 --> 00:39:43.290
  • IT MAY NOT BE A STAGE LIKE MINE
  • 00:39:43.290 --> 00:39:44.210
  • IT MAY BE AN OFFICE.
  • 00:39:46.230 --> 00:39:48.040
  • IT MAY BE A MEDICAL PRACTICE.
  • 00:39:48.040 --> 00:39:48.250
  • IT MAY BE A LAWYER'S OFFICE.
  • 00:39:48.250 --> 00:39:49.270
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DESTINY
  • 00:39:49.270 --> 00:39:50.250
  • GOD HAS FOR YOUR LIFE IS.
  • 00:39:50.250 --> 00:39:52.020
  • BUT I JUST WANNA PLEAD AND JUST
  • 00:39:52.020 --> 00:39:54.290
  • ASK YOU TO STOP MAKING GOD THE
  • 00:39:54.290 --> 00:39:57.210
  • SAME LEVEL OF THE PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:39:57.210 --> 00:39:58.230
  • DISAPPOINTED YOU AND DARE TO
  • 00:39:58.230 --> 00:40:00.050
  • BELIEVE THAT HE IS BIGGER AND
  • 00:40:00.050 --> 00:40:01.200
  • GREATER THAN WHAT YOUR MOM DID,
  • 00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:03.040
  • THAN WHAT YOU DAD DID--
  • 00:40:03.040 --> 00:40:04.260
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:40:04.260 --> 00:40:05.100
  • - SARAH: --THAN WHAT YOUR
  • 00:40:05.100 --> 00:40:06.180
  • EX-HUSBAND DID.
  • 00:40:06.180 --> 00:40:07.080
  • HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
  • 00:40:07.080 --> 00:40:08.000
  • HE IS GREATER THAN THAT.
  • 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:08.180
  • AND IF YOU WOULD TRUST HIS
  • 00:40:08.180 --> 00:40:09.180
  • PLAN, HE CAN DO A BETTER JOB
  • 00:40:09.180 --> 00:40:11.130
  • WITH YOUR LIFE THAN YOU EVER
  • 00:40:11.130 --> 00:40:12.260
  • COULD.
  • 00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:15.120
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:40:18.080 --> 00:40:19.010
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:40:19.010 --> 00:40:21.000
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:22.080
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:23.260
  • I-- I HAVE A-- MY OWN SON IS
  • 00:40:25.030 --> 00:40:26.080
  • NAMED AFTER ME, MY NAMESAKE.
  • 00:40:26.080 --> 00:40:27.180
  • HE IS SO DISTURBED BY PEOPLE
  • 00:40:27.180 --> 00:40:28.080
  • PUTTING EXPECTATIONS ON HIM.
  • 00:40:28.080 --> 00:40:28.280
  • AND THERE WAS A LADY IN THE
  • 00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.170
  • CHURCH THAT JUST KEPT SAYING,
  • 00:40:30.170 --> 00:40:32.200
  • "OH, YOU'RE GONNA BE THE NEXT
  • 00:40:32.200 --> 00:40:33.110
  • PASTOR OF THIS CHURCH AND
  • 00:40:33.110 --> 00:40:34.210
  • YOU'RE GONNA TAKE OVER THIS
  • 00:40:34.210 --> 00:40:35.110
  • CHURCH."
  • 00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:35.230
  • [SARAH LAUGHS KNOWINGLY]
  • 00:40:35.230 --> 00:40:36.110
  • AND HE WAS JUST SO MAD.
  • 00:40:36.110 --> 00:40:37.100
  • AND, ONE DAY-- HE'S MY SIMON
  • 00:40:37.100 --> 00:40:39.210
  • PETER.
  • 00:40:39.210 --> 00:40:40.240
  • HE--
  • 00:40:40.240 --> 00:40:41.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:41.100 --> 00:40:42.010
  • HE'LL DRAW THE SWORD.
  • 00:40:42.010 --> 00:40:43.010
  • [PASTOR TOURÉ CHUCKLES]
  • 00:40:43.010 --> 00:40:43.210
  • AND, ONE DAY, HE SAID-- HE GOT
  • 00:40:43.210 --> 00:40:44.120
  • SO TIRED OF HER, HE FINALLY:
  • 00:40:44.120 --> 00:40:45.140
  • "YES, I AM GOING TO TAKE OVER
  • 00:40:45.140 --> 00:40:47.050
  • THIS CHURCH.
  • 00:40:47.050 --> 00:40:47.250
  • AND I'M GONNA TURN IT INTO A
  • 00:40:47.250 --> 00:40:48.150
  • BAR!"
  • 00:40:48.150 --> 00:40:50.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:50.190 --> 00:40:51.130
  • WE LAUGH ABOUT IT NOW, BUT
  • 00:40:51.130 --> 00:40:52.100
  • IT'S...IT WAS PART OF THAT
  • 00:40:52.100 --> 00:40:52.290
  • WHOLE DYNAMIC.
  • 00:40:52.290 --> 00:40:53.130
  • UH, PASTOR, THIS IS PART OF THE
  • 00:40:53.270 --> 00:40:56.270
  • MANDATE THAT GOD HAS HELPED YOU
  • 00:40:56.270 --> 00:40:57.200
  • WITH.
  • 00:40:59.020 --> 00:41:02.040
  • UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE CHURCH
  • 00:41:02.040 --> 00:41:03.120
  • L.A., POTTER'S HOUSE, ONE
  • 00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:04.010
  • CHURCH L.A. HAS SO MANY YOUNG
  • 00:41:04.010 --> 00:41:05.060
  • PEOPLE, SO MANY PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:41:05.060 --> 00:41:06.070
  • ACTUALLY HAVE REJECTED THE
  • 00:41:06.070 --> 00:41:07.080
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:41:07.080 --> 00:41:07.240
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:41:07.240 --> 00:41:08.270
  • - PHIL: WHAT'S THE BELL?
  • 00:41:08.270 --> 00:41:11.110
  • WHAT'S THE SOUND THAT'S
  • 00:41:11.110 --> 00:41:12.160
  • BRINGING THEM BACK?
  • 00:41:12.160 --> 00:41:14.020
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:41:14.020 --> 00:41:14.280
  • I THINK, UM...WELL, WE TALKED
  • 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.100
  • ABOUT AUTHENTICITY.
  • 00:41:16.100 --> 00:41:17.120
  • WE'RE IN AN INFORMATION AGE NOW
  • 00:41:17.120 --> 00:41:20.010
  • WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T
  • 00:41:20.010 --> 00:41:21.200
  • LIE-- YOU COULDN'T LIE IF YOU
  • 00:41:21.200 --> 00:41:23.020
  • WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
  • 00:41:23.020 --> 00:41:24.020
  • EVERYTHING IS JUST ONE CLICK
  • 00:41:24.020 --> 00:41:25.130
  • AND I THINK THAT THIS
  • 00:41:27.250 --> 00:41:28.120
  • GENERATION-- A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:41:28.120 --> 00:41:29.090
  • THINK THAT MILLENNIALS DON'T
  • 00:41:29.090 --> 00:41:30.070
  • WANT GOD.
  • 00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:32.060
  • THEY DO WANT GOD BUT THEY WANT
  • 00:41:32.060 --> 00:41:33.140
  • A REAL GOD, A GOD THAT IS
  • 00:41:33.140 --> 00:41:34.030
  • TANGIBLE, YOU KNOW, A GOD THAT
  • 00:41:34.030 --> 00:41:36.050
  • IS CONNECTED TO THEM, AND A GOD
  • 00:41:36.050 --> 00:41:37.220
  • THAT UNDERSTANDS THEM.
  • 00:41:37.220 --> 00:41:39.230
  • AND SO, FOR ME, I THINK IT'S
  • 00:41:39.230 --> 00:41:40.180
  • JUST THE REALNESS.
  • 00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:43.190
  • AND I BELIEVE IN THEM.
  • 00:41:46.220 --> 00:41:47.090
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NEVER
  • 00:41:47.090 --> 00:41:48.240
  • DO IS I NEVER TALK DOWN TO MY
  • 00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:49.190
  • CONGREGATION.
  • 00:41:49.220 --> 00:41:52.220
  • WHEN I LOOK AT JESUS AND HOW HE
  • 00:41:52.220 --> 00:41:54.090
  • RELATES TO US AND HOW HE DEALS
  • 00:41:54.090 --> 00:41:56.150
  • WITH US, HE'S NEVER TALKIN' YOU
  • 00:41:56.150 --> 00:41:57.100
  • DOWN--
  • 00:41:57.100 --> 00:41:58.090
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:41:58.090 --> 00:41:59.080
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: --HE'S ALWAYS
  • 00:41:59.080 --> 00:42:00.040
  • TALKIN' YOU UP.
  • 00:42:00.040 --> 00:42:00.180
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:42:00.180 --> 00:42:01.030
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: I'M THINKING
  • 00:42:01.030 --> 00:42:01.270
  • ABOUT THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN THE
  • 00:42:01.270 --> 00:42:02.250
  • ACT OF ADULTERY AND THE-- YOU
  • 00:42:02.250 --> 00:42:04.240
  • KNOW, THE PHARISEES AT THE TIME
  • 00:42:04.240 --> 00:42:06.080
  • -- THEY WERE TALKIN' HER DOWN.
  • 00:42:06.080 --> 00:42:07.150
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:42:07.150 --> 00:42:08.130
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:09.240
  • SHE'S ON THE GROUND.
  • 00:42:09.240 --> 00:42:10.220
  • THEY WANNA STONE HER!
  • 00:42:10.220 --> 00:42:11.090
  • AND JESUS IS SAYING, "GO AND
  • 00:42:11.090 --> 00:42:12.040
  • SIN NO MORE."
  • 00:42:12.040 --> 00:42:13.080
  • - PHIL: MMH.
  • 00:42:13.080 --> 00:42:14.070
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: SO, HE'S
  • 00:42:14.070 --> 00:42:14.280
  • ALWAYS POINTING UPWARD.
  • 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:15.180
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT-- THAT, UH--
  • 00:42:15.180 --> 00:42:16.100
  • YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN YOUNG
  • 00:42:16.100 --> 00:42:17.190
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:42:17.190 --> 00:42:18.030
  • UM, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT MY OWN
  • 00:42:18.030 --> 00:42:19.130
  • LIFE AND I SEE WHERE I'VE COME
  • 00:42:19.130 --> 00:42:21.090
  • FROM AND WHAT GOD CAN DO IN MY
  • 00:42:21.090 --> 00:42:22.180
  • LIFE.
  • 00:42:22.180 --> 00:42:23.030
  • AND I SPEAK THAT TO THEM.
  • 00:42:23.030 --> 00:42:26.010
  • I FATHER THEM, I HONOR THEM.
  • 00:42:26.010 --> 00:42:27.220
  • I DON'T SAY, YOU KNOW, "BECAUSE
  • 00:42:27.220 --> 00:42:30.070
  • YOU'RE YOUNG"--
  • 00:42:30.070 --> 00:42:31.040
  • YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, WHAT
  • 00:42:31.040 --> 00:42:32.200
  • I THINK GOD WANTS TO DO IN
  • 00:42:32.200 --> 00:42:33.190
  • THESE LAST DAYS IS-- AND IT'S
  • 00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:34.290
  • ACCORDING TO MALACHI 4.
  • 00:42:34.290 --> 00:42:36.100
  • I REALLY BELIEVE THAT HE WANTS
  • 00:42:36.100 --> 00:42:37.190
  • TO TURN THE HEARTS OF THE
  • 00:42:37.190 --> 00:42:38.250
  • FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN AND THE
  • 00:42:38.250 --> 00:42:40.030
  • HEARTS OF THE CHILDREN TO THE
  • 00:42:40.030 --> 00:42:41.030
  • FATHER WHERE THERE IS A MUTUAL
  • 00:42:41.030 --> 00:42:42.010
  • RESPECT.
  • 00:42:42.010 --> 00:42:43.010
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:42:43.010 --> 00:42:44.180
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:42:44.180 --> 00:42:45.170
  • GRAY HAIRS RESPECT THE STRONG
  • 00:42:45.170 --> 00:42:47.110
  • LEGS, YOU KNOW, OF THE YOUTH.
  • 00:42:47.110 --> 00:42:49.020
  • AND THE STRONG LEGS OF THE
  • 00:42:49.020 --> 00:42:51.050
  • YOUTH RESPECT THE WISDOM OF THE
  • 00:42:51.050 --> 00:42:51.280
  • OLD.
  • 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.160
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THERE
  • 00:42:54.160 --> 00:42:55.070
  • IS HONOR THAT TRANSCENDS AGE,
  • 00:42:55.070 --> 00:42:56.260
  • WHEN THE OLD DON'T SAY, "OH,
  • 00:42:56.260 --> 00:42:59.250
  • YOU'RE JUST A MILLENNIAL AND
  • 00:42:59.250 --> 00:43:01.020
  • YOU'RE SELFISH," -- 'CAUSE
  • 00:43:01.020 --> 00:43:01.290
  • IT'S NOT TRUE--
  • 00:43:01.290 --> 00:43:02.200
  • - PHIL: RIGHT.
  • 00:43:02.200 --> 00:43:03.110
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: --YOU KNOW,
  • 00:43:03.110 --> 00:43:04.070
  • AND THE YOUNG DON'T SAY, "OH,
  • 00:43:04.070 --> 00:43:05.120
  • YOU'RE OLD AND YOU'RE OUT OF
  • 00:43:05.120 --> 00:43:06.120
  • TOUCH," YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN WE
  • 00:43:06.120 --> 00:43:07.030
  • BEGIN TO HONOR EACH OTHER AND
  • 00:43:07.030 --> 00:43:08.280
  • ONE ANOTHER AND BEGIN TO WORK
  • 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.000
  • TOGETHER, I THINK WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:12.050
  • SEE INCREDIBLE THINGS HAPPEN IN
  • 00:43:12.050 --> 00:43:13.010
  • THE KINGDOM.
  • 00:43:13.010 --> 00:43:13.270
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:43:13.270 --> 00:43:14.130
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND WE'RE
  • 00:43:14.130 --> 00:43:15.050
  • SEEING IT IN OUR CHURCH, RIGHT
  • 00:43:15.050 --> 00:43:15.260
  • NOW.
  • 00:43:15.260 --> 00:43:16.080
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:43:16.080 --> 00:43:17.090
  • - PHIL: WELL, I THINK IT'S
  • 00:43:17.090 --> 00:43:17.290
  • WHAT HAPPENING HERE AT TBN.
  • 00:43:17.290 --> 00:43:19.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:19.030 --> 00:43:19.150
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:43:19.150 --> 00:43:20.060
  • - PHIL: I MEAN, UH...YOU KNOW,
  • 00:43:20.060 --> 00:43:21.120
  • IT WAS FORCED, YOU KNOW...YOU
  • 00:43:21.120 --> 00:43:22.230
  • KNOW, WITH THE LOSS OF OUR
  • 00:43:23.040 --> 00:43:26.040
  • FOUNDERS, PAUL AND JAN CROUCH.
  • 00:43:26.040 --> 00:43:28.110
  • BUT MATT, YOU KNOW, STEPPING
  • 00:43:28.110 --> 00:43:30.020
  • IN...
  • 00:43:30.020 --> 00:43:30.270
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MM-HMM.
  • 00:43:30.270 --> 00:43:31.180
  • - PHIL: ...AND HE-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:43:31.180 --> 00:43:33.240
  • EMBRACING THE PAST AND STANDING
  • 00:43:33.240 --> 00:43:35.120
  • ON THEIR SHOULDERS BUT AT THE
  • 00:43:35.120 --> 00:43:37.070
  • SAME TIME RECOGNIZING THE
  • 00:43:37.070 --> 00:43:38.030
  • RESPONSIBILITY--
  • 00:43:38.030 --> 00:43:39.010
  • - SARAH: RIGHT.
  • 00:43:39.010 --> 00:43:39.150
  • - PHIL: --THAT THIS IS NOT A
  • 00:43:39.150 --> 00:43:40.260
  • MUSEUM.
  • 00:43:40.260 --> 00:43:43.070
  • WE CAN'T JUST KEEP TALKING
  • 00:43:43.070 --> 00:43:44.170
  • ABOUT WHAT WE DID TO GET HERE.
  • 00:43:44.170 --> 00:43:45.130
  • BUT THIS IS A-- SOMETHING
  • 00:43:45.130 --> 00:43:46.200
  • THAT'S IN MOTION.
  • 00:43:46.200 --> 00:43:47.100
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:43:47.100 --> 00:43:47.240
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YES.
  • 00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:48.190
  • - PHIL: BUT I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:49.080
  • I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
  • 00:43:49.080 --> 00:43:50.070
  • I MADE UP A WORD A FEW-- I LOVE
  • 00:43:50.070 --> 00:43:52.110
  • MAKING UP WORDS, PARTLY 'CAUSE
  • 00:43:52.110 --> 00:43:53.140
  • I MISPRONOUNCE WORDS A LOT.
  • 00:43:53.140 --> 00:43:54.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:43:54.160 --> 00:43:55.010
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: RIGHT, RIGHT.
  • 00:43:55.010 --> 00:43:56.090
  • - PHIL: BUT I JUST...GO WITH
  • 00:43:56.090 --> 00:43:57.000
  • IT.
  • 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:57.090
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, THE WORD
  • 00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:57.270
  • "SCARCASM."
  • 00:43:57.270 --> 00:43:59.060
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:43:59.060 --> 00:44:00.040
  • - PHIL: AND IT KIND OF RELATES
  • 00:44:00.040 --> 00:44:01.190
  • TO A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL
  • 00:44:01.190 --> 00:44:02.290
  • MILLENNIALS, WHERE THEY JUST
  • 00:44:02.290 --> 00:44:03.210
  • SEEM LIKE THEY HAVE THIS
  • 00:44:03.210 --> 00:44:04.140
  • DISRESPECT...
  • 00:44:04.140 --> 00:44:05.270
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:44:05.270 --> 00:44:06.160
  • - PHIL: ...BUT IT'S REALLY NOT
  • 00:44:06.160 --> 00:44:07.080
  • DISRESPECT.
  • 00:44:07.080 --> 00:44:07.200
  • IT'S A SCAR.
  • 00:44:07.200 --> 00:44:09.200
  • IT'S THE LANGUAGE OF HURT.
  • 00:44:09.200 --> 00:44:10.090
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:44:10.090 --> 00:44:11.090
  • - PHIL: AND WHEN YOU STOP AND
  • 00:44:11.090 --> 00:44:12.150
  • THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR GENERATION
  • 00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:13.160
  • HAS DONE -- EXPOSE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:44:13.160 --> 00:44:15.100
  • EVERY HERO THAT THIS GENERATION
  • 00:44:15.100 --> 00:44:17.060
  • HAS HAD, WHETHER IT'S IN
  • 00:44:17.060 --> 00:44:20.050
  • SPORTS, OR POLITICS, OR
  • 00:44:20.050 --> 00:44:21.130
  • PREACHERS, EDUCATORS, EVEN WALL
  • 00:44:21.130 --> 00:44:23.080
  • STREET.
  • 00:44:23.080 --> 00:44:24.200
  • I MEAN, WHAT PART OF THE DREAM
  • 00:44:24.200 --> 00:44:26.280
  • WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP THAT
  • 00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:28.140
  • SAYS, "COME ON, PICK A HERO AND
  • 00:44:28.140 --> 00:44:30.190
  • GO AFTER IT," THAT HASN'T BEEN
  • 00:44:30.190 --> 00:44:31.180
  • TAINTED--
  • 00:44:31.180 --> 00:44:32.030
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:44:32.030 --> 00:44:33.080
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: WOW.
  • 00:44:33.080 --> 00:44:33.270
  • - PHIL: --THAT YOU'RE NOW
  • 00:44:33.270 --> 00:44:34.160
  • LOOKING AT AND SAY, "YEAH, BE
  • 00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:35.070
  • LIKE THEM?"
  • 00:44:35.070 --> 00:44:35.190
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:44:35.190 --> 00:44:36.090
  • - PHIL: AND SO, THERE'S A
  • 00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:37.110
  • LANGUAGE OF HURT THERE.
  • 00:44:37.110 --> 00:44:38.000
  • AND I'VE LEARNED AS SOMEONE
  • 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:39.180
  • WHO'S EVEN NOW A GRANDPARENT TO
  • 00:44:39.180 --> 00:44:41.160
  • ABSORB THAT...
  • 00:44:41.160 --> 00:44:44.030
  • - SARAH: MMH...
  • 00:44:44.030 --> 00:44:45.060
  • - PHIL: ...TO NOT BE OFFENDED
  • 00:44:45.060 --> 00:44:45.280
  • BY IT, NOR DEFEND IT.
  • 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.110
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:44:47.110 --> 00:44:48.100
  • - PHIL: JUST LET THAT OUT.
  • 00:44:48.100 --> 00:44:49.190
  • AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF
  • 00:44:49.190 --> 00:44:51.130
  • YOUR STORY -- AND THAT IS THAT
  • 00:44:51.130 --> 00:44:53.290
  • OFTEN WHEN OUR CHILDREN MAKE
  • 00:44:53.290 --> 00:44:56.000
  • MISTAKES, THE WORST THING --
  • 00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:58.020
  • AND I'VE SAID IT, SO HERE I AM,
  • 00:44:58.020 --> 00:44:59.220
  • I'M THE SINNER, HERE I COME, ON
  • 00:44:59.220 --> 00:45:01.030
  • MY KNEES, CONFESSING -- IS WHEN
  • 00:45:01.030 --> 00:45:03.130
  • OUR CHILDREN DO THINGS THAT--
  • 00:45:03.130 --> 00:45:04.040
  • OR JUST WE SAY, YOU KNOW, "WHAT
  • 00:45:04.040 --> 00:45:05.270
  • DO YOU THINK THAT DOES TO ME?"
  • 00:45:05.270 --> 00:45:08.090
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: RIGHT.
  • 00:45:08.090 --> 00:45:09.240
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:45:09.240 --> 00:45:10.090
  • - PHIL: "HOW DO YOU THINK THAT
  • 00:45:10.090 --> 00:45:11.200
  • MAKES ME FEEL?"
  • 00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:12.040
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: RIGHT.
  • 00:45:12.040 --> 00:45:12.240
  • - PHIL: "I'M A PASTOR."
  • 00:45:12.240 --> 00:45:13.120
  • AND IT'S LIKE, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:45:13.120 --> 00:45:14.020
  • THEY'RE THE ONES HURTING.
  • 00:45:14.020 --> 00:45:14.230
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: RIGHT.
  • 00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:15.130
  • - PHIL: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:45:15.130 --> 00:45:15.280
  • IT'S LIKE IF SOMEONE IN A CAR
  • 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:16.190
  • WRECK AND YOU'RE SAYING: "WHAT?
  • 00:45:16.190 --> 00:45:17.110
  • HOW DO YOU THINK THIS FEELS?"
  • 00:45:17.110 --> 00:45:18.020
  • YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DYING AND
  • 00:45:18.020 --> 00:45:18.240
  • YOU'RE WORRYING ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:19.190
  • FEELINGS.
  • 00:45:19.190 --> 00:45:20.050
  • SO, I THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN
  • 00:45:20.050 --> 00:45:21.130
  • ELEMENT THAT THERE IS HUMILITY.
  • 00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:23.110
  • I CALL HUMILITY THE NEW
  • 00:45:23.110 --> 00:45:24.240
  • CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:45:24.240 --> 00:45:26.060
  • - SARAH: MMH...
  • 00:45:26.060 --> 00:45:26.200
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:45:26.200 --> 00:45:27.160
  • - PHIL: AND THIS IS WHAT NEEDS
  • 00:45:27.160 --> 00:45:28.130
  • TO BE EMBRACED.
  • 00:45:28.130 --> 00:45:30.110
  • UH, TOURÉ, I WANT JUST BRIEFLY
  • 00:45:30.110 --> 00:45:32.180
  • FOR YOU TO GIVE ME A...GIVE OUR
  • 00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:35.250
  • AUDIENCE A SENSE OF THE BOOK
  • 00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:38.150
  • THAT YOU'RE-- THAT'S BEEN
  • 00:45:38.150 --> 00:45:40.050
  • BIRTHED OUT OF YOU ABOUT
  • 00:45:40.050 --> 00:45:40.230
  • WHOLENESS.
  • 00:45:40.230 --> 00:45:42.010
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: YEAH.
  • 00:45:42.010 --> 00:45:42.210
  • - PHIL: BECAUSE I THINK YOU
  • 00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:43.220
  • HIT ON THAT A COUPLE TIMES.
  • 00:45:43.220 --> 00:45:44.120
  • UH, HOW VITAL IS IT THAT BEFORE
  • 00:45:44.120 --> 00:45:47.070
  • PEOPLE CAN STEP INTO THEIR
  • 00:45:47.070 --> 00:45:50.050
  • DESTINY THAT THEY WORK ON THE
  • 00:45:50.050 --> 00:45:50.260
  • INSIDE?
  • 00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:52.100
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:45:52.100 --> 00:45:53.030
  • WELL, I THINK THAT...THAT WHO
  • 00:45:53.030 --> 00:45:54.250
  • YOU TRULY ARE IS ALWAYS AHEAD
  • 00:45:54.250 --> 00:45:56.070
  • OF WHERE YOU ARE.
  • 00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:58.080
  • YOU KNOW, PAUL SAID IN
  • 00:45:58.080 --> 00:45:59.160
  • PHILIPPIANS 3, HE SAID: I
  • 00:45:59.160 --> 00:46:01.100
  • HAVEN'T ATTAINED...
  • 00:46:01.100 --> 00:46:02.220
  • AND HE SAID THIS NOT WHEN HE
  • 00:46:02.220 --> 00:46:03.280
  • WAS A NOVICE.
  • 00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:04.240
  • HE SAID IT AFTER HE WAS
  • 00:46:04.240 --> 00:46:05.230
  • ACCOMPLISHED SPIRITUALLY.
  • 00:46:05.230 --> 00:46:07.170
  • BUT HE SAYS IN PHILIPPIANS 3:
  • 00:46:07.170 --> 00:46:09.220
  • NOT AS THOUGH I'VE ALREADY
  • 00:46:09.220 --> 00:46:12.170
  • ATTAINED OR AM PERFECT, BUT
  • 00:46:12.170 --> 00:46:13.190
  • THIS IS THE ONE THING I DO.
  • 00:46:13.190 --> 00:46:15.180
  • I FORGET THOSE THINGS THAT ARE
  • 00:46:15.260 --> 00:46:18.260
  • BEHIND AND I REACH FORWARD TO
  • 00:46:18.260 --> 00:46:19.170
  • THOSE THINGS THAT ARE AHEAD.
  • 00:46:19.170 --> 00:46:21.180
  • JESUS TALKED ABOUT WHEN YOU
  • 00:46:21.180 --> 00:46:22.230
  • BEAR FRUIT, HE PRUNES YOU SO
  • 00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:24.060
  • THAT YOU MIGHT BEAR FORTH MORE
  • 00:46:24.060 --> 00:46:25.040
  • FRUIT.
  • 00:46:25.040 --> 00:46:25.190
  • SO, WHO YOU ARE IS ALWAYS AHEAD
  • 00:46:25.190 --> 00:46:26.250
  • OF WHERE YOU ARE AND YOU HAVE
  • 00:46:26.250 --> 00:46:29.240
  • TO GROW UP INTO THE PERSON THAT
  • 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.000
  • GOD IS MAKING THE PROMISE TO.
  • 00:46:33.040 --> 00:46:36.040
  • LET ME EXPLAIN THAT.
  • 00:46:36.040 --> 00:46:36.290
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:46:36.290 --> 00:46:37.240
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: GOD GIVES YOU
  • 00:46:37.240 --> 00:46:39.030
  • A WORD...
  • 00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:39.140
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:46:39.140 --> 00:46:40.030
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ...BUT THE
  • 00:46:40.030 --> 00:46:41.240
  • WORD IS SO FAR AHEAD OF WHERE
  • 00:46:41.240 --> 00:46:43.250
  • YOU ARE.
  • 00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:45.030
  • - PHIL: MM-HMM.
  • 00:46:45.030 --> 00:46:45.220
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND THIS IS
  • 00:46:45.220 --> 00:46:46.150
  • WHY WE GET DISCOURAGED.
  • 00:46:46.150 --> 00:46:47.110
  • BECAUSE GOD WILL SPEAK A
  • 00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:48.100
  • PROMISE TO US AND IT SEEMS LIKE
  • 00:46:48.100 --> 00:46:49.200
  • IT'S TAKING FOREVER.
  • 00:46:49.200 --> 00:46:50.220
  • IN FACT, SOMETIMES, THE PROMISE
  • 00:46:50.220 --> 00:46:52.100
  • IS SO BIG THAT IT FEELS LIKE
  • 00:46:52.100 --> 00:46:54.120
  • THE PROMISE IS FOR SOMEBODY
  • 00:46:54.120 --> 00:46:55.250
  • WELL, IN A WAY, IT IS FOR
  • 00:46:59.070 --> 00:46:59.260
  • SOMEBODY ELSE, BECAUSE, AS YOU
  • 00:46:59.260 --> 00:47:00.230
  • GROW IN GOD AND ALL THESE
  • 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:01.260
  • LAYERS OF BROKENNESS AND ALL
  • 00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:04.030
  • THESE LAYERS OF PAIN AND THESE
  • 00:47:04.030 --> 00:47:04.240
  • LAYERS OF DYSFUNCTION -- AFTER
  • 00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:06.260
  • THOSE THINGS FALL OFF OF YOU,
  • 00:47:08.020 --> 00:47:11.020
  • YOU KNOW, UM....YOU KNOW,
  • 00:47:11.020 --> 00:47:11.250
  • SANCTIFICATION MIGHT BE A
  • 00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:12.140
  • THEOLOGICAL TERM FOR IT.
  • 00:47:12.140 --> 00:47:13.190
  • IT'S BASICALLY TRANSFORMATION.
  • 00:47:13.190 --> 00:47:15.210
  • PAUL SAID YOU'RE GONNA BE
  • 00:47:15.210 --> 00:47:16.180
  • TRANSFORMED BY THE RENEWING OF
  • 00:47:16.180 --> 00:47:17.170
  • WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN,
  • 00:47:21.060 --> 00:47:21.250
  • YOU ARE A DIFFERENT PERSON.
  • 00:47:21.250 --> 00:47:22.150
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:47:22.150 --> 00:47:22.280
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND, UH...
  • 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:23.200
  • AND SO THE PROMISE WAS MADE TO
  • 00:47:23.200 --> 00:47:26.140
  • THIS YOU BUT IT WILL BE
  • 00:47:26.140 --> 00:47:27.270
  • MANIFEST IN A FUTURE YOU...
  • 00:47:27.270 --> 00:47:28.170
  • - PHIL: WOW.
  • 00:47:28.170 --> 00:47:29.050
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ...WHO GOT
  • 00:47:29.050 --> 00:47:29.270
  • HEALED, WHO GOT DELIVERED, WHO
  • 00:47:29.270 --> 00:47:30.260
  • GOT SET FREE THROUGH SIMPLY
  • 00:47:30.260 --> 00:47:32.040
  • WALKING WITH JESUS.
  • 00:47:32.040 --> 00:47:33.060
  • AND SO, THE BOOK "WHOLENESS" IS
  • 00:47:33.060 --> 00:47:34.290
  • ABOUT HOW YOUR INSIDES
  • 00:47:34.290 --> 00:47:36.280
  • DETERMINE YOUR OUTSIDES.
  • 00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.050
  • YOU KNOW, WE SPEND-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:40.050
  • THE COSMETIC, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:47:40.050 --> 00:47:42.070
  • INDUSTRY, COSMETIC SURGERY AND
  • 00:47:42.070 --> 00:47:43.110
  • THE LIKES, IT'S A MULTI-- IT'S
  • 00:47:43.110 --> 00:47:45.030
  • A $16 BILLION INDUSTRY.
  • 00:47:45.150 --> 00:47:48.150
  • AND...AND SO, WE'RE SPENDING
  • 00:47:48.150 --> 00:47:49.050
  • ALL THIS MONEY DRESSING UP THE
  • 00:47:49.050 --> 00:47:50.100
  • OUTSIDE WHEN THE TRUE POWER IS
  • 00:47:50.100 --> 00:47:51.010
  • WHAT'S ON THE INSIDE OF YOU.
  • 00:47:51.010 --> 00:47:52.060
  • GREATER IS HE WHO IS...
  • 00:47:52.060 --> 00:47:53.270
  • - SARAH: IN YOU.
  • 00:47:55.040 --> 00:47:58.040
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ...IN YOU
  • 00:47:58.040 --> 00:47:59.050
  • SO, IN "WHOLENESS"...IN
  • 00:48:06.070 --> 00:48:07.180
  • "WHOLENESS," I WALK THE READERS
  • 00:48:07.200 --> 00:48:10.200
  • THROUGH, YOU KNOW, MY OWN LIFE.
  • 00:48:10.200 --> 00:48:11.120
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:48:11.120 --> 00:48:11.250
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND SOME OF
  • 00:48:11.250 --> 00:48:12.180
  • THE COMMON THINGS THAT OUR
  • 00:48:12.180 --> 00:48:13.290
  • BROKENNESS PRODUCES IN OUR
  • 00:48:13.290 --> 00:48:16.130
  • LIVES.
  • 00:48:16.130 --> 00:48:16.250
  • AND I'M ALL ABOUT GETTIN'
  • 00:48:16.250 --> 00:48:17.200
  • HEALED.
  • 00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:18.130
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:48:18.130 --> 00:48:19.000
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: BECAUSE THE
  • 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:20.090
  • FRUIT OF OUR LIVES, OFTENTIMES,
  • 00:48:20.090 --> 00:48:21.110
  • IS THE BYPRODUCT OF WHAT'S GONE
  • 00:48:21.110 --> 00:48:22.240
  • ON INSIDE.
  • 00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:24.070
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:48:24.070 --> 00:48:25.190
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: SO, IT'S ABOUT
  • 00:48:25.190 --> 00:48:27.070
  • UNCOVERING THESE-- THESE HIDDEN
  • 00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:30.070
  • OBSTACLES.
  • 00:48:30.070 --> 00:48:30.290
  • THEY'RE IN OUR BLIND SPOTS.
  • 00:48:30.290 --> 00:48:31.290
  • WE DON'T KNOW THEM.
  • 00:48:31.290 --> 00:48:32.270
  • WE'RE BORN WITH THEM.
  • 00:48:32.270 --> 00:48:33.200
  • WORDS HAVE BEEN SPOKEN.
  • 00:48:33.200 --> 00:48:34.280
  • WE CARRY THESE THINGS.
  • 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.250
  • SO, WHOLENESS HELPS YOU TO
  • 00:48:37.250 --> 00:48:39.000
  • IDENTIFY AND THESE THIEVES
  • 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:39.190
  • THAT OPERATE IN THE BLIND
  • 00:48:39.190 --> 00:48:42.040
  • SPOTS IN OUR LIVES.
  • 00:48:42.040 --> 00:48:43.130
  • - PHIL: OH, I LOVE IT.
  • 00:48:43.130 --> 00:48:44.220
  • - SARAH: SO GOOD.
  • 00:48:45.100 --> 00:48:48.100
  • - PHIL: I KNOW-- I KNOW I'M
  • 00:48:48.100 --> 00:48:49.000
  • EXCITED ABOUT IT.
  • 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:50.040
  • UH, MAN, OUR TIME -- I WANTED A
  • 00:48:50.040 --> 00:48:50.260
  • COUPLE HOURS.
  • 00:48:50.260 --> 00:48:51.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:48:51.090 --> 00:48:51.200
  • I WANT ALL OF MY-- THE AUDIENCE
  • 00:48:51.200 --> 00:48:52.220
  • HERE TO HAVE KNOWN AND GET--
  • 00:48:52.220 --> 00:48:55.160
  • RECEIVED A TASTE OF THE
  • 00:48:55.160 --> 00:48:57.280
  • MINISTRY THAT GOD HAS GIVEN YOU
  • 00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.140
  • BOTH.
  • 00:48:59.140 --> 00:49:01.030
  • UH, SARAH, IN THESE LAST FEW
  • 00:49:01.030 --> 00:49:02.130
  • MOMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING
  • 00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:04.060
  • PEOPLE-- PART OF THE GIFT OFFER
  • 00:49:04.060 --> 00:49:05.140
  • FOR TBN, WHICH I JUST WANNA SAY
  • 00:49:06.170 --> 00:49:09.170
  • TO TBN, TO ALL OF OUR PARTNERS:
  • 00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:11.050
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:49:11.050 --> 00:49:13.100
  • MATT HAS JUST ANNOUNCED A FEW
  • 00:49:13.100 --> 00:49:16.000
  • WEEKS AGO THAT OUR VIEWERSHIP
  • 00:49:16.020 --> 00:49:19.020
  • AND, THE DONATION OF OUR
  • 00:49:23.190 --> 00:49:24.070
  • PARTNERS IS THE HIGHEST IT'S
  • 00:49:24.070 --> 00:49:24.270
  • EVER BEEN.
  • 00:49:24.270 --> 00:49:25.080
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:49:25.080 --> 00:49:25.210
  • AND I LOVE IT BECAUSE I THINK
  • 00:49:25.210 --> 00:49:27.280
  • MATT AND LAURIE HAVE GIVEN, UH,
  • 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:28.250
  • GENEROSITY SOME DIGNITY.
  • 00:49:28.250 --> 00:49:31.250
  • AND, CERTAINLY, WE HAD TO DO A
  • 00:49:31.250 --> 00:49:33.210
  • LOT OF THINGS IN THE TRENCHES
  • 00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:35.060
  • TO RAISE THE MONEY TO GET WHERE
  • 00:49:35.060 --> 00:49:36.190
  • WE ARE.
  • 00:49:36.190 --> 00:49:37.050
  • BUT I LOVE THE DIGNITY OF
  • 00:49:37.050 --> 00:49:39.040
  • GENEROSITY THAT THEY HAVE
  • 00:49:39.040 --> 00:49:40.170
  • BROUGHT.
  • 00:49:40.170 --> 00:49:41.030
  • WE DON'T SPEND 168 HOURS TWICE
  • 00:49:41.030 --> 00:49:43.110
  • A YEAR, YOU KNOW, PLEADING,
  • 00:49:43.110 --> 00:49:45.200
  • "GET ON THE PHONE."
  • 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:47.090
  • I THINK WE'VE ALL ELEVATED TO A
  • 00:49:47.090 --> 00:49:49.150
  • PLACE OF DIGNITY THAT'S ALSO A
  • 00:49:49.150 --> 00:49:51.110
  • GOOD REFLECTION TO THE WORLD
  • 00:49:51.110 --> 00:49:53.140
  • THAT'S WATCHING.
  • 00:49:53.140 --> 00:49:54.040
  • BUT, THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY THAT
  • 00:49:54.040 --> 00:49:56.220
  • YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DO
  • 00:49:56.220 --> 00:49:58.220
  • IF THEY WRITE IN AND BECOME
  • 00:49:58.220 --> 00:50:00.130
  • A PART OF THIS, OF, YOU
  • 00:50:00.130 --> 00:50:01.110
  • KNOW, OF NOT SETTLING FOR SAFE
  • 00:50:01.110 --> 00:50:02.060
  • IS WHAT?
  • 00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:07.260
  • WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THIS IS THE
  • 00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:08.230
  • PART YOU HOPE PEOPLE WILL GET
  • 00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:09.170
  • OUT OF IT?
  • 00:50:09.170 --> 00:50:11.100
  • - SARAH: I REALLY HOPE THAT
  • 00:50:11.100 --> 00:50:12.000
  • PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN
  • 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.090
  • LIFE HAPPENS TO YOU THAT WE
  • 00:50:14.090 --> 00:50:15.270
  • HAVE A TENDENCY TO SHRINK, AND
  • 00:50:15.270 --> 00:50:17.100
  • TO SHRINK OUR DREAMS, TO SHRINK
  • 00:50:17.100 --> 00:50:19.090
  • THE VISION THAT WE HAVE TO OUR
  • 00:50:19.090 --> 00:50:22.040
  • LIFE TO SOMETHING THAT MEETS
  • 00:50:22.040 --> 00:50:24.030
  • THE DISAPPOINTMENT THAT WE
  • 00:50:24.030 --> 00:50:24.220
  • EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:50:24.220 --> 00:50:25.080
  • MAYBE YOU'RE A TEEN MOM LIKE I
  • 00:50:25.080 --> 00:50:26.150
  • WAS AND YOU SAY, "WELL, THE
  • 00:50:26.150 --> 00:50:27.250
  • GOOD HUSBANDS ARE FOR THE WOMEN
  • 00:50:27.250 --> 00:50:30.060
  • WHO DID THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
  • 00:50:30.060 --> 00:50:32.010
  • AND THE CAREERS ARE FOR THE
  • 00:50:32.010 --> 00:50:33.060
  • PEOPLE WHO DID COLLEGE A
  • 00:50:33.060 --> 00:50:35.160
  • CERTAIN WAY," WHEN IN REALITY
  • 00:50:35.160 --> 00:50:37.130
  • THE ONLY THING THAT'S KEEPING
  • 00:50:37.130 --> 00:50:38.220
  • YOU FROM GOD'S BEST FOR YOUR
  • 00:50:38.220 --> 00:50:40.110
  • LIFE IS THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN'T
  • 00:50:40.110 --> 00:50:41.070
  • POSSESS IT.
  • 00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:43.010
  • I WANT YOU TO BREAK OUT OF YOUR
  • 00:50:43.010 --> 00:50:44.110
  • COMFORT ZONE AND TO NOT SETTLE
  • 00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:45.090
  • FOR SAFE.
  • 00:50:45.090 --> 00:50:46.270
  • DON'T BELIEVE IN THE FEAR AND
  • 00:50:46.270 --> 00:50:49.210
  • THE INSECURITIES THAT EXIST
  • 00:50:49.240 --> 00:50:52.240
  • WITHIN YOUR OWN MIND.
  • 00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:53.110
  • WE REBUKE THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE
  • 00:50:53.110 --> 00:50:54.030
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: MMH.
  • 00:50:56.130 --> 00:50:57.020
  • - SARAH: AND WE DECREE AND
  • 00:50:57.020 --> 00:50:57.220
  • DECLARE LIBERTY OVER YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:50:57.220 --> 00:50:58.140
  • OVER YOUR FAMILY -- NOT JUST
  • 00:50:58.140 --> 00:50:59.040
  • FOR YOU BUT FOR GENERATIONS TO
  • 00:50:59.040 --> 00:50:59.250
  • COME.
  • 00:50:59.250 --> 00:51:01.120
  • WHO'S GONNA TEACH YOUR CHILDREN
  • 00:51:01.120 --> 00:51:02.180
  • HOW TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE BOX?
  • 00:51:02.180 --> 00:51:04.020
  • WHO'S GONNA TEACH YOUR CHILDREN
  • 00:51:04.020 --> 00:51:05.200
  • HOW TO WALK ON WATER?
  • 00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:07.100
  • YOU'VE GOTTA DO THAT THING.
  • 00:51:07.100 --> 00:51:08.220
  • YOUR MOM'S LIFE IS DEPENDING ON
  • 00:51:08.220 --> 00:51:09.290
  • IT, YOUR FATHER'S LIFE IS
  • 00:51:09.290 --> 00:51:11.040
  • DEPENDING ON IT.
  • 00:51:11.040 --> 00:51:12.260
  • BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS
  • 00:51:12.260 --> 00:51:13.230
  • WORLD NEEDS TO SEE THE POWER OF
  • 00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:16.060
  • WHAT JESUS CAN DO WHEN WE
  • 00:51:16.060 --> 00:51:17.180
  • SURRENDER OUR LIVES TO HIM
  • 00:51:17.180 --> 00:51:19.130
  • FULLY.
  • 00:51:19.130 --> 00:51:20.290
  • SO, I AM HOPING THAT YOU WILL
  • 00:51:20.290 --> 00:51:23.080
  • NO LONGER SETTLE FOR SAFE, FOR
  • 00:51:23.080 --> 00:51:24.200
  • THE SAFE ZONE THAT FEAR AND
  • 00:51:24.200 --> 00:51:26.050
  • INSECURITIES CREATE, BUT
  • 00:51:26.050 --> 00:51:27.020
  • INSTEAD CHOOSE TO BE
  • 00:51:27.020 --> 00:51:28.200
  • UNSTOPPABLE WITH OUR JESUS.
  • 00:51:28.200 --> 00:51:30.160
  • - PHIL: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:31.230
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:51:31.230 --> 00:51:34.200
  • SO, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL, UH,
  • 00:51:34.230 --> 00:51:37.230
  • IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS, CHECK
  • 00:51:37.230 --> 00:51:38.260
  • OUT THIS INFORMATION.
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  • A PART OF THE GIFT OFFER
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  • THAT TBN IS OFFERING IS THIS
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  • LET'S TAKE OUR LIVES TO ANOTHER
  • 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.140
  • AND, IN DOING SO, AT THE SAME
  • 00:51:51.160 --> 00:51:52.070
  • TIME, LET'S TAKE TBN TO A WHOLE
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  • 'NOTHER LEVEL AS WE'RE WATCHING
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  • - TOM: HI.
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  • I'M TOM NEWMAN.
  • 00:51:59.180 --> 00:52:02.180
  • AS A FATHER, I'VE ALWAYS
  • 00:52:02.180 --> 00:52:03.060
  • ENCOURAGED MY DAUGHTER CHERYL
  • 00:52:03.060 --> 00:52:04.050
  • TO GROW IN CONFIDENCE AND LIVE
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  • AND I KNOW, LIKE ME, GOD
  • 00:52:08.020 --> 00:52:08.200
  • DESIRES FOR ALL OF HIS
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  • IN APPRECIATION OF YOUR GIFT OF
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  • SUPPORT THIS MONTH, WE WANT TO
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  • WE'LL SEND YOU ALL THE
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  • RESOURCES I'VE MENTIONED PLUS
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  • "UNDAUNTED" BY CHRISTINE CAINE;
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  • "DON'T SETTLE FOR SAFE"
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  • BY SARAH JAKES ROBERTS;
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  • AND LISA BEVERE'S
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  • CHOOSE YOUR LEVEL OF SUPPORT
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  • AND RECEIVE YOUR COPY OF
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  • "HOW TO BE A CONFIDENT WOMAN,"
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  • OR, "THE GARDEN" CD AND DVD,
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  • OR, THE COMPLETE BUNDLE
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  • FEATURING THESE
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  • POWER-FILLED BOOKS.
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  • MAKE EVERY MINUTE MATTER AS YOU
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  • GAIN GREATER CONFIDENCE, GROW
  • 00:53:21.190 --> 00:53:23.040
  • YOUR FAITH, AND GET THE
  • 00:53:23.040 --> 00:53:24.090
  • VICTORY.
  • 00:53:24.090 --> 00:53:25.190
  • - PHIL: WHAT AN INCREDIBLE
  • 00:53:34.190 --> 00:53:35.090
  • NIGHT.
  • 00:53:35.090 --> 00:53:35.180
  • MY NAME IS PHIL MUNSEY AND ON
  • 00:53:35.180 --> 00:53:36.200
  • BEHALF OF MATT AND LAURIE
  • 00:53:36.200 --> 00:53:38.190
  • AND, ALSO, MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE OF
  • 00:53:41.180 --> 00:53:43.200
  • 40 YEARS IS ACTUALLY INVOLVED
  • 00:53:43.200 --> 00:53:45.170
  • IN TBN DOING A LOT OF DESIGN
  • 00:53:45.170 --> 00:53:47.100
  • WORK ON THE DIFFERENT-- BOTH
  • 00:53:47.100 --> 00:53:48.170
  • HERE AND IN NASHVILLE AND
  • 00:53:48.170 --> 00:53:50.170
  • SO...MAN, I MISS JEANNIE.
  • 00:53:52.290 --> 00:53:54.130
  • I WISH SHE WAS RIGHT HERE WITH
  • 00:53:54.130 --> 00:53:55.040
  • BUT WHAT AN INCREDIBLE JOY TO
  • 00:53:58.240 --> 00:53:59.150
  • BE WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
  • 00:53:59.150 --> 00:54:00.060
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A
  • 00:54:00.060 --> 00:54:00.270
  • NIGHT OF DESTINY.
  • 00:54:00.270 --> 00:54:01.260
  • I FEEL THAT JUST AS OFFICER
  • 00:54:02.070 --> 00:54:05.070
  • BROWN WAS KNEELING AT YOUR,
  • 00:54:06.100 --> 00:54:09.100
  • BASICALLY, POTENTIAL DEATH BED
  • 00:54:09.100 --> 00:54:11.180
  • IN THE STREET OF WATTS, AFTER A
  • 00:54:11.180 --> 00:54:13.080
  • GANG DRIVE-BY SHOOTING,
  • 00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:16.110
  • SOMEBODY, RIGHT NOW JUST NEEDS
  • 00:54:16.110 --> 00:54:17.270
  • TO BE TOLD, "HANG IN THERE BRO,
  • 00:54:17.270 --> 00:54:19.060
  • IT'S NOT OVER."
  • 00:54:19.060 --> 00:54:21.240
  • AND I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND,
  • 00:54:21.240 --> 00:54:22.160
  • SARAH, THAT WOMEN ARE WATCHING
  • 00:54:22.160 --> 00:54:24.270
  • TODAY THAT JUST FEEL LIKE THAT
  • 00:54:24.270 --> 00:54:26.090
  • THEY HAVE ALREADY BOXED OUT
  • 00:54:26.090 --> 00:54:28.150
  • THEIR DESTINY AND THEY'RE JUST
  • 00:54:28.150 --> 00:54:30.110
  • GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS, AND,
  • 00:54:30.110 --> 00:54:31.280
  • UH...AND THAT...THIS IS NOT AN
  • 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.150
  • ACCIDENT.
  • 00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:35.140
  • AND, THERE THEY ARE.
  • 00:54:35.140 --> 00:54:38.010
  • AND I KNOW THERE'S MILLIONS
  • 00:54:38.010 --> 00:54:39.120
  • WATCHING, BUT, REALLY, THE ONE
  • 00:54:39.120 --> 00:54:41.150
  • PERSON THAT'S WATCHING RIGHT
  • 00:54:41.150 --> 00:54:43.030
  • NOW THAT'S HANGING ON -- I WANT
  • 00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:44.110
  • YOU TO SPEAK INTO THEM, BOTH OF
  • 00:54:44.110 --> 00:54:46.270
  • YOU, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE
  • 00:54:46.270 --> 00:54:49.180
  • NIGHT FOR THEM,
  • 00:54:49.180 --> 00:54:50.100
  • THAT THEY WILL DECIDE NOT TO
  • 00:54:50.100 --> 00:54:53.070
  • LIVE SAFE.
  • 00:54:53.070 --> 00:54:54.100
  • THIS WILL BE THE NIGHT THAT
  • 00:54:54.100 --> 00:54:55.000
  • THEY SAY, "MY PURPOSE IS
  • 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:56.030
  • AWAKENED."
  • 00:54:56.030 --> 00:54:58.140
  • THIS WILL BE THE NIGHT WHERE
  • 00:54:58.140 --> 00:54:59.040
  • THEY SAY, "WHOLENESS BEGINS
  • 00:54:59.040 --> 00:54:59.240
  • NOW."
  • 00:54:59.240 --> 00:55:00.190
  • UH, LET'S HELP THEM.
  • 00:55:00.190 --> 00:55:01.130
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: WELL, I
  • 00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:04.220
  • BELIEVE THAT...THAT THE GOSPEL
  • 00:55:04.220 --> 00:55:05.280
  • OF JESUS CHRIST IS ABOUT
  • 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.090
  • RESTORATION.
  • 00:55:07.090 --> 00:55:09.050
  • THE WHOLE STORY'S ABOUT
  • 00:55:09.050 --> 00:55:09.280
  • RESTORATION AND REDEMPTION.
  • 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.280
  • THE BIBLE SAYS IN JOEL-- GOD
  • 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:13.120
  • SAYS THAT "I WILL RESTORE THE
  • 00:55:13.120 --> 00:55:14.140
  • YEARS THAT THE LOCUSTS HAVE
  • 00:55:14.140 --> 00:55:15.160
  • AND SO, I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU
  • 00:55:18.290 --> 00:55:19.210
  • LOOK AT OUR LIVES -- AND I
  • 00:55:19.210 --> 00:55:20.100
  • BELIEVE THAT WE'RE HERE-- IT'S
  • 00:55:20.100 --> 00:55:21.080
  • CERTAINLY NOT ABOUT US -- BUT,
  • 00:55:21.080 --> 00:55:24.060
  • I DO BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS MADE
  • 00:55:24.060 --> 00:55:24.270
  • US A SIGN TO YOU OF THE POWER
  • 00:55:24.270 --> 00:55:27.000
  • AND THE REALITY OF HIS RES--
  • 00:55:28.220 --> 00:55:31.220
  • RESTORATION AND RE-- AH, LOOK -
  • 00:55:31.220 --> 00:55:32.140
  • - RESTORATION AND RESURRECTION,
  • 00:55:32.140 --> 00:55:33.060
  • I MADE UP A WORD--
  • 00:55:35.250 --> 00:55:36.100
  • - PHIL: THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:55:36.100 --> 00:55:37.140
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: --AS PASTOR
  • 00:55:37.140 --> 00:55:38.070
  • PHIL SAID.
  • 00:55:38.070 --> 00:55:38.180
  • BUT THIS IS A MOMENT OF
  • 00:55:38.180 --> 00:55:39.060
  • RESTORATION FOR YOU.
  • 00:55:39.060 --> 00:55:39.220
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:55:39.220 --> 00:55:40.050
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: AND I BELIEVE
  • 00:55:40.050 --> 00:55:40.290
  • THAT IN THIS SEASON-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:55:40.290 --> 00:55:41.210
  • I WAS PREACHING THIS YEAR THAT
  • 00:55:41.210 --> 00:55:42.120
  • THIS WAS THE YEAR OF
  • 00:55:42.120 --> 00:55:42.290
  • ALIGNMENT...
  • 00:55:42.290 --> 00:55:44.070
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:55:44.070 --> 00:55:45.140
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: ...WHERE GOD
  • 00:55:45.140 --> 00:55:46.130
  • WAS GOING TO MAKE ALL THINGS
  • 00:55:46.130 --> 00:55:47.100
  • WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD AND
  • 00:55:47.100 --> 00:55:48.000
  • BRING YOU INTO A TIME OR
  • 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.120
  • RESTORATION, WHICH IS GOING TO
  • 00:55:50.120 --> 00:55:53.000
  • BRING ACCELERATION.
  • 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:54.190
  • AS YOU BECOME ALIGNED, IT'S
  • 00:55:54.190 --> 00:55:55.110
  • GOING TO BRING ACCELERATION AND
  • 00:55:55.110 --> 00:55:57.200
  • PROFOUND RESTORATION TO YOUR
  • 00:55:57.200 --> 00:55:58.100
  • LIFE.
  • 00:55:58.100 --> 00:55:58.220
  • WE'RE LIVING IT, IT'S COMING,
  • 00:55:58.220 --> 00:56:00.040
  • ITS YOURS, I'M TELLING YOU.
  • 00:56:00.040 --> 00:56:01.120
  • - PHIL: MMH. YEAH.
  • 00:56:01.120 --> 00:56:02.130
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: I'M TELLING
  • 00:56:02.130 --> 00:56:03.140
  • YOU.
  • 00:56:03.140 --> 00:56:04.100
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:56:04.100 --> 00:56:04.250
  • - PHIL: SARAH, JUST...SPEAK
  • 00:56:04.250 --> 00:56:05.150
  • THAT PRAYER.
  • 00:56:05.150 --> 00:56:06.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:56:06.100 --> 00:56:08.020
  • - SARAH: SO...
  • 00:56:08.020 --> 00:56:08.230
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:56:08.230 --> 00:56:09.260
  • GOD, WE...WE THANK YOU FOR THE
  • 00:56:09.260 --> 00:56:12.080
  • DIVINE APPOINTMENT THAT IS
  • 00:56:12.080 --> 00:56:13.140
  • TAKING PLACE TONIGHT, THAT YOU
  • 00:56:13.140 --> 00:56:14.250
  • KNEW EXACTLY WHO WOULD BE
  • 00:56:14.250 --> 00:56:15.140
  • WATCHING, YOU KNEW EXACTLY WHO
  • 00:56:15.140 --> 00:56:16.260
  • WOULD BE IN THE AUDIENCE.
  • 00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:19.140
  • BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU KNEW
  • 00:56:19.140 --> 00:56:20.090
  • WHEN WE WERE CRYING, WHEN MY
  • 00:56:20.090 --> 00:56:21.060
  • HUSBAND WAS SHOT, AND WHEN I
  • 00:56:21.060 --> 00:56:23.170
  • WAS PREGNANT AT 13, YOU KNEW
  • 00:56:23.170 --> 00:56:25.040
  • THAT THIS MOMENT WOULD
  • 00:56:25.040 --> 00:56:26.180
  • EVENTUALLY LEAD MILLIONS OF
  • 00:56:26.180 --> 00:56:28.090
  • PEOPLE TO YOU.
  • 00:56:28.090 --> 00:56:30.020
  • SO, GOD, WE HONOR YOUR PRESENCE
  • 00:56:30.020 --> 00:56:31.000
  • IN THIS MOMENT.
  • 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.000
  • [TOURÉ WHISPERING TO JESUS]
  • 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:33.220
  • AND WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BEGIN
  • 00:56:33.220 --> 00:56:35.010
  • TO TOUCH PEOPLE ALL OVER THE
  • 00:56:35.010 --> 00:56:36.230
  • WORLD RIGHT NOW; THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:56:36.230 --> 00:56:39.200
  • WHO ARE FEELING ALONE, PEOPLE
  • 00:56:39.200 --> 00:56:40.110
  • WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH
  • 00:56:40.110 --> 00:56:41.030
  • DEPRESSION WILL BEGIN TO FEEL
  • 00:56:41.030 --> 00:56:41.240
  • THE LOVE OF OUR FATHER WRAPPING
  • 00:56:41.240 --> 00:56:43.150
  • OVER THEM, RIGHT NOW, IN THE
  • 00:56:43.150 --> 00:56:44.280
  • NAME OF JESUS; THAT HOPE WOULD
  • 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.100
  • BE RESTORED; THAT FAITH WOULD
  • 00:56:46.100 --> 00:56:48.130
  • BE RESTORED; THAT LOVE IS
  • 00:56:48.130 --> 00:56:49.150
  • COMING BACK INTO THEIR
  • 00:56:49.150 --> 00:56:52.020
  • HEARTS -- NOT JUST LOVE FOR
  • 00:56:52.020 --> 00:56:53.170
  • THIS WORLD, O GOD, BUT LOVE FOR
  • 00:56:53.170 --> 00:56:54.090
  • YOU, THE KIND OF LOVE THAT
  • 00:56:54.090 --> 00:56:55.200
  • CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY.
  • 00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:58.130
  • GOD, WE REBUKE DEPRESSION.
  • 00:56:58.130 --> 00:56:59.110
  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:56:59.110 --> 00:56:59.260
  • - SARAH: WE REBUKE SUICIDAL
  • 00:56:59.260 --> 00:57:00.180
  • THOUGHTS.
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  • - PHIL: YEAH.
  • 00:57:01.060 --> 00:57:01.270
  • - SARAH: WE DECREE AND DECLARE
  • 00:57:01.270 --> 00:57:02.210
  • THAT THAT IS OVER RIGHT NOW, IN
  • 00:57:02.210 --> 00:57:03.290
  • THE NAME OF JESUS, THAT THEY
  • 00:57:03.290 --> 00:57:05.060
  • ARE NEW BEINGS IN YOU.
  • 00:57:05.060 --> 00:57:06.150
  • - PASTOR TOURÉ: HALLELUJAH.
  • 00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:07.110
  • - SARAH: AND WE ARE THANKING
  • 00:57:07.110 --> 00:57:08.280
  • YOU IN ADVANCE FOR WHAT'S
  • 00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:09.170
  • TAKING PLACE IN THEIR HEARTS.
  • 00:57:09.170 --> 00:57:10.100
  • - PHIL: WOW...AMAZING.
  • 00:57:10.100 --> 00:57:11.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:57:11.170 --> 00:57:12.050
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:57:12.050 --> 00:57:12.250
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:57:12.250 --> 00:57:14.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:57:14.020 --> 00:57:15.080
  • I WANNA...I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:57:15.080 --> 00:57:17.230
  • TONIGHT TO KNOW JUST HOW MUCH
  • 00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:19.270
  • GOD LOVES YOU--
  • 00:57:19.270 --> 00:57:21.040
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:57:21.040 --> 00:57:21.220
  • - SARAH: --AND HOW THIS MOMENT
  • 00:57:21.220 --> 00:57:23.080
  • WAS REALLY FOR YOU.
  • 00:57:23.080 --> 00:57:25.030
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:57:25.030 --> 00:57:26.080
  • - PHIL: AND, I'M JUST SO
  • 00:57:26.080 --> 00:57:27.080
  • GRATEFUL.
  • 00:57:27.080 --> 00:57:28.030
  • I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR MATT AND
  • 00:57:28.030 --> 00:57:28.230
  • I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR, UH...THAT
  • 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:31.190
  • THEY'RE NOT SETTLING FOR
  • 00:57:31.190 --> 00:57:32.070
  • SAFE...
  • 00:57:32.070 --> 00:57:32.180
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:57:32.180 --> 00:57:33.030
  • - PHIL: ...THAT THEY ARE DOING
  • 00:57:33.030 --> 00:57:34.020
  • EVERYTHING THEY CAN, UH, TO
  • 00:57:34.020 --> 00:57:36.030
  • REACH YOUR KIDS, TO REACH YOUR
  • 00:57:36.030 --> 00:57:38.270
  • GRANDKIDS, TO REACH YOU
  • 00:57:38.270 --> 00:57:40.040
  • NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR WHO HAS
  • 00:57:40.140 --> 00:57:43.140
  • NEVER GIVEN MORE THAN JUST A
  • 00:57:43.140 --> 00:57:45.100
  • FEW SECONDS TO CHRISTIAN
  • 00:57:45.100 --> 00:57:46.250
  • TELEVISION BUT NOW WILL.
  • 00:57:46.250 --> 00:57:49.010
  • UH, SOMETHING'S HAPPENING IN
  • 00:57:49.010 --> 00:57:51.000
  • OUR CULTURE.
  • 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:52.040
  • I KNOW IT LOOKS UGLY, I KNOW IT
  • 00:57:52.040 --> 00:57:54.190
  • LOOKS PAINFUL.
  • 00:57:54.190 --> 00:57:55.200
  • ILLUMINATION MUST FIRST COME
  • 00:57:55.200 --> 00:57:57.210
  • BEFORE THERE'S ELIMINATION.
  • 00:57:57.210 --> 00:57:59.130
  • - SARAH: MMH...
  • 00:57:59.130 --> 00:58:00.030
  • - PHIL: AND SO, A LOT OF
  • 00:58:00.030 --> 00:58:00.270
  • UGLINESS AND HURT THAT'S BEGIN
  • 00:58:00.270 --> 00:58:02.200
  • EXPOSED RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:58:02.200 --> 00:58:03.220
  • DON'T BE DISCOURAGED.
  • 00:58:03.220 --> 00:58:05.160
  • JUDGMENT IS ABOUT MAKING THINGS
  • 00:58:05.160 --> 00:58:06.230
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:58:06.230 --> 00:58:07.230
  • AND THAT BEGINS BY JUST THINGS
  • 00:58:07.230 --> 00:58:09.140
  • BEING EXPOSED.
  • 00:58:09.140 --> 00:58:10.150
  • SO, I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:58:10.150 --> 00:58:12.160
  • -- IN SPITE OF ALL THE THINGS
  • 00:58:12.160 --> 00:58:14.100
  • THAT YOU'RE SEEING AND JUST
  • 00:58:14.100 --> 00:58:16.070
  • MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
  • 00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:16.280
  • TELEVISION IS NEWS,
  • 00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.260
  • TELEVISION IS ABOUT BREAKING
  • 00:58:18.260 --> 00:58:20.060
  • BREAKING YOU, BREAKING NEWS.
  • 00:58:20.060 --> 00:58:22.260
  • AND IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL,
  • 00:58:22.260 --> 00:58:24.140
  • YOU GET DRAWN INTO IT AND YOU'LL
  • 00:58:24.140 --> 00:58:25.260
  • THINK THAT THE WORLD
  • 00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:26.160
  • IS JUST OUT OF CONTROL.
  • 00:58:26.160 --> 00:58:27.260
  • MY FRIENDS, THIS IS OUR
  • 00:58:27.260 --> 00:58:30.150
  • FATHER'S WORLD AND HE IS IN
  • 00:58:30.150 --> 00:58:31.160
  • CONTROL.
  • 00:58:31.160 --> 00:58:33.050
  • - SARAH: YEAH.
  • 00:58:33.050 --> 00:58:34.080
  • - PHIL: AND EVEN IN YOUR OWN
  • 00:58:34.080 --> 00:58:34.290
  • LIFE YOU MAY FEEL AS IF YOU'RE
  • 00:58:34.290 --> 00:58:36.140
  • OUT OF CONTROL.
  • 00:58:36.140 --> 00:58:37.260
  • YOU'RE NOT.
  • 00:58:37.260 --> 00:58:39.180
  • YOU'RE IN THE PALM OF GOD'S
  • 00:58:39.180 --> 00:58:40.170
  • HAND.
  • 00:58:40.170 --> 00:58:42.160
  • - SARAH: THANK YOU, JESUS.
  • 00:58:42.160 --> 00:58:43.110
  • - PHIL: AND NO MATTER WHERE
  • 00:58:43.110 --> 00:58:44.010
  • YOU ARE, KNOW THAT GOD HAS
  • 00:58:44.010 --> 00:58:44.260
  • ALREADY PREPARED A FUTURE FOR
  • 00:58:44.260 --> 00:58:45.250
  • YOU.
  • 00:58:45.250 --> 00:58:47.040
  • WE LOVE YOU.
  • 00:58:47.040 --> 00:58:47.200