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July 21, 2019
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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah

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  • male: Go forth in faith to face
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  • foes greater and mightier than ourselves.
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  • Giants great and tall, giants cunning and cruel.
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  • But let us not run from the battle.
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  • Run to victory.
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  • For our God goes before us as a consuming fire
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  • that we may fight the giant of fear,
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  • destroy the giant of discouragement,
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  • be liberated from loneliness, win over worry,
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  • guard ourselves from guilt, tame the giant of temptation,
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  • attack anger,
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  • and find freedom in defeating failure.
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  • Our God will slay the giants in the land
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  • and bring them down before us.
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  • Through his power,
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  • as the Lord has promised us.
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  • Do not be afraid.
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  • Our God will be with us.
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  • He will empower us.
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  • We can defeat our giants.
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  • We can win the battle.
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  • We can live victoriously.
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  • female announcer: Welcome to this edition of "Turning Point."
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  • Today, Sheila Walsh interviews Dr. David Jeremiah
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  • about his series, "Slaying the Giants in Your Life."
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  • Watch as Dr. Jeremiah discusses how you
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  • can win the battle and live victoriously
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  • as you stand against the giants
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  • that seek to terrorize today's believers.
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  • In appreciation of your viewership,
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  • Dr. Jeremiah would like to send you
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  • Contact Turning Point today.
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  • And now, here is Sheila Walsh and David Jeremiah.
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  • Sheila Walsh: Well, this is a really fun place to be.
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  • We've been in some amazing locations,
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  • but this, I mean, this is like
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  • some kind of ancient castle that we're in,
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  • which seems very appropriate
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  • for "Slaying the Giants in Your Life."
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  • We're gonna talk about some of the particular giants,
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  • but I wonder, first of all, why do you call them giants?
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah: Well, you know, I think this probably
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  • started, Sheila, when I was studying the life of David
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  • of course, the famous story of David and Goliath.
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  • And we love that story, and it speaks to us,
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  • but I really wanted to concentrate
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  • on the giants that we face in our culture today
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  • and how they're just as big to us
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  • as a 9 foot 6 giant was to David.
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  • Sheila: One of the things I love about your teaching,
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  • and especially so, again, here,
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  • is every single thing you're dealing with
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  • is something, honestly, I've dealt with in my life.
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  • But before we get to the individual giants,
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  • I wanted to ask you, so many people say to me,
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  • "If I love God, why is life so hard?
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  • Why can't God make life easy?"
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  • Why do we face so many issues in life?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, life is filled with problems.
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  • There's no question about it.
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  • If you study the Bible carefully,
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  • you'll find out that there is
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  • a tremendous relationship between pain and joy.
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  • James said it this way: "Count it all joy
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  • when you fall into various trials."
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  • I mean, that sounds almost like doublespeak.
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  • If you don't have trials, you can't ever have joy.
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  • If you don't have the black notes on your piano,
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  • you can't play harmony.
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  • None of us like that,
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  • but usually if we're intuitive enough,
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  • we look back and we see
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  • how God used those problems to toughen us up
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  • and get us ready to do the things he's called us to do.
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  • I don't choose pain, but pain sometimes chooses me.
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  • Sheila: Yeah, so let's dive in
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  • because each one of these giants
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  • is something that I know whoever's listening
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  • or watching this has dealt with in their life.
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  • Let's talk about fear, number one.
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  • I mean, we live in a culture where sometimes people,
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  • when they wake up in the morning,
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  • they're almost scared to go outside.
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  • There's so much that's going on in life.
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  • And I wonder, just from your own years in ministry,
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  • have you faced fears that were giants for you.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: People asked me when I had cancer
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  • if I was afraid.
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  • "Were you afraid when you had cancer?"
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  • And I think, "Absolutely, I was."
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  • And it was interesting
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  • because I could isolate my fear during that time,
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  • and I wasn't afraid of dying.
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  • I was afraid of leaving my wife and my children,
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  • and I mean, that sounds noble, but it's just the way it was.
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  • That's what I cared about most, and I was afraid.
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  • I remember some of those things, but I always remember
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  • that my fear was real, but it was ultimately replaced
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  • with a sense of God's presence and his peace.
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  • I remember one time, I was getting ready to go
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  • into a really difficult test when I had lymphoma
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  • and I wanted to pray, and I told Donna,
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  • "Honey, I can't pray."
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  • I said, "I'll just cry."
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  • So she said, "Well, I can pray."
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  • And she prayed this incredible prayer.
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  • She didn't cry or anything.
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  • It was the most incredible prayer
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  • I think I've ever heard her pray,
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  • and it just gave me so much strength
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  • and I just--I knew, I knew I was gonna be okay.
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  • Sheila: And I think you talk about that, too,
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  • in this teaching series,
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  • about the fact that sometimes these giants,
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  • we actually can look back
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  • and see how God used those in our life,
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  • that they were almost a gift.
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  • They made us stronger.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: The Bible tells us that we
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  • are not to be creatures of fear.
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  • "Fear not, for I am with you; be not afraid,
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  • for I am your God."
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  • I think there's a healthy kind of fear which is a respect.
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  • But the scared kind of fear, that isn't something
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  • that God has for us unless he's growing us up
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  • at a very high level.
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  • We are not to live our lives in fear.
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  • I don't think that's the will of God for us.
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  • Sheila: One of the other issues you talk about,
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  • one of the other giants, is discouragement.
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  • And let's face it, life is tough.
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  • We're all gonna face discouragement
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  • at some point in our life, some point in our week.
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  • How have you managed to handle discouragement?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: You know, Sheila, I think
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  • that's Satan's favorite tool to use on me.
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  • Sheila: Wow, really?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Yeah, I think that people who do what I do,
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  • people who are put together,
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  • who are type-A people like we are,
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  • they are more susceptible to that.
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  • Because when you spend all your energy
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  • and you just go and go and go,
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  • you're gonna have some hard days.
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  • Sheila: What do you do,
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  • if you find yourself as a pastor of a large church,
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  • huge ministry worldwide,
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  • and you find yourself discouraged, what helps you?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, you know, there's a wonderful text
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  • in the Old Testament about David
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  • who must have felt like we do sometimes.
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  • And I remember one time, he got himself in a situation
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  • where he left camp with a few of his men,
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  • and when he came back, all the wives were gone
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  • and the children were gone and he was theft,
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  • and the Bible says this:
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  • "And David encouraged himself in the Lord."
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  • Sometimes, you don't have anybody to do that.
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  • Now, especially if you're a pastor,
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  • and who do you go to?
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  • And I've learned how to encourage myself in the Lord.
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  • Sheila: How do you do that?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: I do it through music.
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  • I love music, and music often ministers to my soul.
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  • And I have some songs that I can--when I hear that song,
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  • I remember when God used it to help me over a hard time
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  • when I was discouraged.
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  • My wife is a great encouragement to me, and we often talk.
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  • I try to talk things out.
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  • Sometimes, I just need to be alone and in the Scripture;
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  • and then, of course, we have wonderful friends, too,
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  • who are great encouragers to us.
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  • And I don't get discouraged a lot, but I probably have
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  • two or three bouts a year when I get discouraged.
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  • Sheila: But now you have Benji.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Oh yes, now I have my Benji,
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  • my dog, ha, ha.
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  • Sheila: Okay, I want to talk about one of the things
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  • that I think is almost an epidemic in our culture,
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  • and that is loneliness.
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  • I sense that there's so many people,
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  • through social media, they think they're connected,
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  • but they're really not connected.
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  • And, as a pastor, how do you deal with the loneliness
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  • that you see in our culture?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, you know, in our church,
  • 00:09:05.190 --> 00:09:07.090
  • we really work hard at trying to get people into Small Groups
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  • and to network with people,
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  • and they're not doing this over the internet.
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  • They're sitting there.
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  • One of the things that happens
  • 00:09:16.100 --> 00:09:17.190
  • in a church like ours in Southern California,
  • 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:20.190
  • especially with young couples,
  • 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.100
  • is usually both of them work if they have children.
  • 00:09:22.110 --> 00:09:26.090
  • We were trying to get them into Small Groups,
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  • and we weren't doing very well.
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  • So my son-in-law, Emmanuel Sanchez,
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  • had the idea, "Let's do Small Groups
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  • on Sunday morning like Sunday school."
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  • They literally have a Small Group experience.
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  • Somebody teaches for a little while.
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  • They have a Small Group experience,
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  • and while they're doing that,
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  • their kids are in Sunday school,
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  • their children are in the nursery
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  • downstairs in the same building.
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  • I can't tell you what that's meant.
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  • You know, we have a lot of military couples in our church,
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  • and I have had many, many conversations
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  • with these couples saying,
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  • "You cannot know what a lifesaver that was.
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  • It connected us."
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  • You know, we have to work hard
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  • at connecting people in our church.
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  • If we don't do that,
  • 00:10:04.110 --> 00:10:05.270
  • the church size itself is so intimidating,
  • 00:10:05.280 --> 00:10:09.040
  • it causes people to feel a great loneliness
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  • that they wouldn't otherwise feel.
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  • Sheila: Wow, that's very encouraging.
  • 00:10:13.260 --> 00:10:15.280
  • One of the other giants you talk about
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  • that I think is huge is worry.
  • 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:20.280
  • Knowing that we were gonna be talking about this,
  • 00:10:20.290 --> 00:10:22.160
  • I googled "worry and anxiety" and was blown away
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  • by the number of studies being conducted worldwide,
  • 00:10:25.140 --> 00:10:28.150
  • the medications, the solutions.
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  • Why do you think that anxiety is such an epidemic at the moment?
  • 00:10:31.060 --> 00:10:36.150
  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, obviously, the ultimate answer for that
  • 00:10:36.160 --> 00:10:38.260
  • is the absence of God creates anxiety, and of course,
  • 00:10:38.270 --> 00:10:43.020
  • we're living more and more in a godless culture.
  • 00:10:43.030 --> 00:10:46.210
  • It's created the opioid crisis
  • 00:10:46.220 --> 00:10:48.230
  • and, I mean, you look at that whole problem,
  • 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.190
  • and it's kind of at the center of a lot of presenting problems.
  • 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.280
  • But here's what the Bible says.
  • 00:10:53.290 --> 00:10:55.220
  • The Bible says: "Be anxious for nothing,
  • 00:10:55.230 --> 00:10:59.150
  • but in everything by prayer and supplication
  • 00:10:59.160 --> 00:11:02.100
  • let your requests be made known unto God."
  • 00:11:02.110 --> 00:11:04.230
  • I don't think we should forget either
  • 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.050
  • that at the end of that, it says:
  • 00:11:07.060 --> 00:11:08.240
  • "And when you think, think positive thoughts,"
  • 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:11.170
  • and then we have a whole list of positive things we're to think.
  • 00:11:11.180 --> 00:11:14.110
  • And the interesting thing is,
  • 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:15.210
  • and I don't know if people realize,
  • 00:11:15.220 --> 00:11:17.010
  • the Bible says we're to encourage one another.
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  • That means we're to pour courage into other people.
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  • That's what it means, to encourage people.
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  • We're empty of courage, so when you encourage somebody,
  • 00:11:24.160 --> 00:11:27.020
  • you take some of your courage
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  • and you pour it into that person.
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  • of something that you can't take away?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, first of all, Sheila,
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  • we must understand that that giant is real.
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  • It's almost as real as if it
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  • were physically present with you.
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  • If you read David's description of his guilt
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  • in Psalm 32 and Psalm 51,
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  • it is riveting, and it affected his bones, you know?
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  • And he said he was broken,
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  • and until he came and confessed it,
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  • he suffered greatly.
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  • What I try to help people understand is this.
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  • You mentioned that sometimes they can't forgive themselves,
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  • and it's interesting that there is no place in the Bible
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  • where it ever says anything about us forgiving ourselves.
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  • Sheila: Wow, I've never thought of that.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: And I always say,
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  • "Do you believe God forgave you?"
  • 00:14:01.190 --> 00:14:03.030
  • "Yeah."
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  • "And so you can't feel forgiven
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  • because you haven't forgiven yourself.
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  • Doesn't that seem like your standard of forgiveness
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  • is higher than God's?"
  • 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.070
  • And they'll look, "Well, I don't know."
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  • I say, "Listen to me.
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  • God forgives completely, fully, unconditionally.
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  • And when God forgives, you are forgiven.
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  • Now, you have to keep reminding yourself over and over again
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  • that you're forgiven
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  • by the highest authority in the forever world."
  • 00:14:30.230 --> 00:14:34.120
  • You know, I think it's a tool of the enemy to think
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  • that we're in charge of forgiving ourselves.
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  • I mean, I understand that, but the issue is
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  • that the great forgiver is God, not us.
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  • Sheila: I've never heard anyone say that,
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  • that there's nothing in Scripture that says
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  • we're supposed to forgive ourselves,
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  • rather receive God's forgiveness.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: We're receivers of God's forgiveness.
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  • Sheila: That's powerful.
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  • Kind of in the same vein,
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  • I want us to look at the giant of temptation.
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  • Is it a sin to be tempted?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, it can't be because Jesus was tempted.
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  • And the Bible actually says he was, "Tempted in all points
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  • such as we are, yet without sin."
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  • When the devil took him into the wilderness
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  • and tempted him, he did not sin.
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  • It is not a sin to be tempted;
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  • it is a sin to yield to temptation.
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  • Let me just tell you
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  • the foundational passage of Scripture
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  • is 1 Corinthians 10:13.
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  • It says: "There is no temptation taken you
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  • but such as is common to man; but God is faithful,
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  • who will not suffer you to be tempted
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  • above that you are able,
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  • but will with the temptation also provide a way of escape."
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  • The idea that I am so tempted I cannot be victorious,
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  • that's not true.
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  • And there are strategies, for instance,
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  • a guy came to me one time and he told me there was a girl
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  • that worked kind of like next to him,
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  • and he was--they were at the beginning
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  • of getting involved with each other
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  • in ways that they shouldn't.
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  • And I said, "Well, are you serious about this?
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  • You're married, you've got a family,
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  • you don't want this to happen."
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  • And I said, "Well, then you should get another job."
  • 00:16:05.170 --> 00:16:07.220
  • And he goes, "What?
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  • Get another job?"
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  • I said, "There's only one way
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  • you can be victorious over sexual temptation
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  • and the Bible says you're to flee from it."
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  • It's one of the few things in the Bible
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  • we're told to run away from.
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  • And then I like to use the illustration of Joseph
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  • who was tempted by Potiphar's wife
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  • and the Bible says: "He ran out of the house."
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  • So there are some things in the Bible about temptation.
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  • It's important to know that temptation is not a sin.
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  • To be tempted is not a sin.
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  • But if you began to coddle it and yield to it,
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  • that's when sin enters.
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  • Sheila: Right, one of the giants
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  • that seems to be gaining momentum
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  • in our culture at the moment is anger.
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  • We seem to be living in a very angry world.
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  • You turn on the TV and you see things about road rage.
  • 00:16:51.180 --> 00:16:55.220
  • But it's interesting, you point out in your teaching series
  • 00:16:55.230 --> 00:16:58.170
  • that Scripture says that not all anger is bad,
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  • that there can be a place for righteous anger.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Actually, the Bible says:
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  • "Be angry, and sin not."
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  • And then I love this.
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  • The Bible says: "Don't let the sun go down on your anger."
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  • And I heard about a guy who said, "Yeah,"
  • 00:17:14.280 --> 00:17:16.200
  • he said, "we really practice that at our house,
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  • and we haven't slept for two weeks," you know?
  • 00:17:18.070 --> 00:17:20.220
  • So it's so interesting how practical the Word of God is.
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  • That one thing, don't let the sun go down on your anger.
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  • Sheila: Something that I've noticed,
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  • and perhaps sometimes more with women than men,
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  • is the giant of resentment.
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  • Kind of related to anger,
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  • but how would you define resentment?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Here's my definition of resentment.
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  • Resentment is anger gone underground.
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  • Sheila: Oh, wow.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Resentment is anger you don't deal with
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  • and you stuff it down into your spirit
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  • and it lays there and it lays there
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  • and it lays there, and then at an unappropriate moment
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  • that you never dreamed was gonna happen,
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  • boom, you explode
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  • and all that resentment comes out.
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  • That's why if you don't deal with anger,
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  • anger turns into resentment.
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  • Sheila: If someone is listening to this,
  • 00:18:01.270 --> 00:18:03.180
  • watching this, and they think, "Yeah, that's absolutely me,"
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  • how do you defeat the giant of resentment?
  • 00:18:06.060 --> 00:18:09.050
  • Dr. Jeremiah: You know, in all of these things
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  • we're talking about, Sheila, one of the main things
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  • is to be able to acknowledge it, to be able to recognize it.
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  • Why do I feel this way?
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  • Why do I have this feeling in my heart?
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  • Why am I so resentful?
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  • And then try to isolate it.
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  • You know, get it in a place
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  • where you can see it in living color.
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  • This is wrong.
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  • How did this start?
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  • Where did this come from?
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  • And then just go and say, "God, help me with this.
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  • Help me to get this."
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  • And then sometimes, if you have a resentment
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  • that's because you haven't settled an issue,
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  • you have to go back and settle that issue.
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  • In the story of David, when he got near to the giant,
  • 00:18:42.230 --> 00:18:46.140
  • the Bible says he "ran toward him."
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  • Sheila: Isn't that amazing?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Yeah, and so what he was doing is he was--
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  • he wasn't gonna wait till the giant came to him.
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  • He went to the giant and had victory.
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  • Sheila: But that's one of the things
  • 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.030
  • that is throughout every session of this teaching series of you.
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  • You're saying is these giants do exist,
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  • but we don't run from them.
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  • With the power of God, we run toward them.
  • 00:19:06.260 --> 00:19:10.090
  • So let's talk about doubt.
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  • You have an interesting take in your teaching on doubt,
  • 00:19:12.010 --> 00:19:15.030
  • that doubt is not always a bad thing.
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  • Talk to us about that.
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Somebody once said,
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  • "There is more faith in an honest doubt
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  • than in anything else you can ever have."
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  • You know, many, many people that I know have become
  • 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.100
  • greatly gifted and strong apologetic teachers
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  • and it started with doubt.
  • 00:19:32.290 --> 00:19:34.220
  • Because when you have doubt, what do you wanna do?
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  • You wanna find out why do I-- is this true or is it not?
  • 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:40.130
  • And I love the story of Thomas
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  • who, you know, he said,
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  • "Unless I see this, I won't believe."
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  • Doubt drives you to find answers
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  • if you don't just stuff it down in your spirit
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  • and walk away from it, when you face it.
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  • And I'll be honest with you,
  • 00:19:54.190 --> 00:19:56.070
  • you cannot really have been a Christian for very long
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  • that you're gonna have moments where you think,
  • 00:19:58.210 --> 00:20:00.290
  • "What if this isn't true," you know?
  • 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.160
  • "What if all this that I've given my life,
  • 00:20:03.170 --> 00:20:05.140
  • what if it's not true?"
  • 00:20:05.150 --> 00:20:06.280
  • And then you go back and you find in the Scripture,
  • 00:20:06.290 --> 00:20:10.150
  • it is true. We know it's true.
  • 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.160
  • It is absolutely true.
  • 00:20:12.170 --> 00:20:14.160
  • But sometimes, those doubts come and they drive you
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  • to greater faith and greater belief.
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  • Sheila: So have you had moments like that in your own life?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: I've had some times when I've doubted, yeah.
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  • Sheila: I think that's a tremendous encouragement
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  • to people, Dr. Jeremiah,
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  • because of your years in ministry.
  • 00:20:28.120 --> 00:20:30.260
  • But you say that not to be afraid of doubts?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Doubt is not evil
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  • unless you let it become your whole life.
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  • Sheila: One of the giants that you talked about,
  • 00:20:39.290 --> 00:20:41.200
  • I found it interesting 'cause I'm not sure everyone
  • 00:20:41.210 --> 00:20:44.100
  • would see this as a spiritual issue,
  • 00:20:44.110 --> 00:20:47.110
  • and that's procrastination.
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  • Why is that important?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Here's what I believe.
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  • That the time between when God tells you to do something
  • 00:20:54.260 --> 00:20:58.290
  • and when you do it, that time belongs to the devil.
  • 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:05.000
  • And I really have come to understand over the years
  • 00:21:05.010 --> 00:21:07.250
  • that when God says, "Do this," you do it
  • 00:21:07.260 --> 00:21:10.090
  • and every minute that you don't obey,
  • 00:21:10.100 --> 00:21:13.000
  • you open the door to the enemy to come in
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  • so that ultimately he pushes you away
  • 00:21:15.120 --> 00:21:17.070
  • and you don't do it.
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  • Sheila: Wow, let me just tell you that has really spoken to me
  • 00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:21.190
  • because, yeah, sometimes it's easy to think,
  • 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.160
  • "Well, I'll do that tomorrow," or "I'll get to that."
  • 00:21:23.170 --> 00:21:26.170
  • But in essence, that's disobedience, really.
  • 00:21:26.180 --> 00:21:29.270
  • Okay, I think one of the greatest giants
  • 00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:32.200
  • that we face is failure, the fear of failing.
  • 00:21:32.210 --> 00:21:37.070
  • And I was wondering,
  • 00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:38.170
  • in all your years of studying the Word of God,
  • 00:21:38.180 --> 00:21:40.170
  • is there a passage of Scripture that has been
  • 00:21:40.180 --> 00:21:42.240
  • the most helpful to you in dealing with that?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, obviously, the great experiment in failure
  • 00:21:45.120 --> 00:21:50.150
  • is Peter's failure and his denial of the Lord.
  • 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:55.230
  • And when you get to John 21
  • 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:58.170
  • and you see the Lord Jesus embracing him in his failure
  • 00:21:58.180 --> 00:22:02.090
  • and just as he failed three times,
  • 00:22:02.100 --> 00:22:04.030
  • he recommissions him three times.
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  • He sits down at breakfast with him,
  • 00:22:06.150 --> 00:22:08.180
  • he loves on him and restores him.
  • 00:22:08.190 --> 00:22:11.210
  • Several things are true about this, Sheila.
  • 00:22:11.220 --> 00:22:14.050
  • When you fail, you don't become a failure.
  • 00:22:14.060 --> 00:22:17.230
  • You know, all of us fail at something.
  • 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:22.210
  • We're always failing at something.
  • 00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:24.060
  • Failure is never final unless you let it be.
  • 00:22:24.070 --> 00:22:29.160
  • I remember a book Erwin Lutzer wrote that was
  • 00:22:29.170 --> 00:22:31.190
  • one of my favorite books for a number of months.
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  • It was called "Failure: The Back Door to Success."
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  • Sheila: Oh, that's a great title.
  • 00:22:37.020 --> 00:22:38.110
  • Dr. Jeremiah: Yeah, and it was, like,
  • 00:22:38.120 --> 00:22:39.280
  • how sometimes the things we fail at
  • 00:22:39.290 --> 00:22:43.040
  • God uses to take us to a bigger victory.
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  • Sheila: The very last giant that you discuss in this series
  • 00:22:46.270 --> 00:22:50.000
  • is the giant of jealousy.
  • 00:22:50.010 --> 00:22:53.050
  • And I think in our day of social media where people look
  • 00:22:53.060 --> 00:22:56.040
  • at photographs of, you know, people in their perfect moments
  • 00:22:56.050 --> 00:22:59.030
  • with three filters over them,
  • 00:22:59.040 --> 00:23:01.140
  • it's very easy for jealousy to kind of slip in,
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  • and you think that everybody's life
  • 00:23:04.130 --> 00:23:05.290
  • is better than your life.
  • 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.000
  • How do you deal with that giant of jealousy that's so insidious?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, you're absolutely right
  • 00:23:12.040 --> 00:23:13.130
  • about that whole thing, especially with kids.
  • 00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:15.090
  • But one of the things they deal with is they see themselves
  • 00:23:15.100 --> 00:23:19.180
  • against the touched-up pictures of their friends,
  • 00:23:19.190 --> 00:23:22.220
  • and they never feel like they can ever end,
  • 00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:24.220
  • so they become jealous.
  • 00:23:24.230 --> 00:23:26.070
  • Jealousy is the way you feel about other people;
  • 00:23:26.080 --> 00:23:29.090
  • envy is the way you feel about other things.
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  • You're envious of this, you're envious of that.
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  • But when you're jealous, you have a person in your focus
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  • and you're jealous of that person.
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  • And I've seen that destroy people.
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  • Sheila: So how, as a believer,
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  • do you let joy outweigh jealousy?
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  • If you look at somebody-- I'm thinking of not just kids,
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  • but, you know, anybody who thinks
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  • that their life looks better than my life.
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  • How, as a believer, do you let the weight of joy
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  • be greater than the weight of jealousy?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, I mean, joy is not happiness.
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  • Joy is a relationship, and joy is based
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  • upon your relationship with Jesus Christ.
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  • And when you have a wholesome relationship with Jesus Christ,
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  • you're aware of the fact that God made you special,
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  • and he has a special plan for your life,
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  • and that you're here on this earth
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  • because God carved you out in his plan and put you here,
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  • so you shouldn't be jealous of somebody else
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  • because you didn't come here to do that.
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  • You came here to do this.
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  • And we get our eyes off on somebody else.
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  • When we get our eyes off of what God's doing for us
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  • and on to what he's doing for somebody else,
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  • we can get jaundiced.
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  • And I don't care how old we are or how long we've been doing it,
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  • that'll always be an issue that we have to deal with.
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  • Sheila: Well, I have to say I love this series.
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  • It's profound, it's very practical.
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  • Do you have just a final word that you would like to say?
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: Well, I wanna tell you that the same thing
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  • God did for David, he wants to do for all of us.
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  • David came before the giant and he said to the giant,
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  • "You come to me in your own strength,
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  • but I come to you in the name of the Lord God of Israel."
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  • We can't face our giants, Sheila, in our own strength.
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  • That's the world's way.
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  • Our giants are probably not gonna get solved
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  • at the secular counselor's office,
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  • but when we face our giants in the name of the Lord,
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  • in the power of his might,
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  • we can have the same victory that David had.
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  • male announcer: This month on "Turning Point,"
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  • Dr. Jeremiah would like to offer you
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  • "Slaying the Giants in Your Life."
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  • practical steps from Scripture about how to defeat
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  • the common but formidable giants that many of us face,
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  • heralding God's promise that we can live victoriously
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  • against the forces that discourage us.
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  • female announcer: The first step to slaying
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  • the giants in your life is to believe in Jesus Christ.
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  • If you've never accepted Christ as your personal Savior,
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  • you can do that today.
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  • We would like to offer you
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  • that will continue to encourage your walk with God.
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  • announcer: Next time, on "Turning Point."
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  • Dr. Jeremiah: As Christians, we all have
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  • the same spiritual DNA, don't we?
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  • We have the DNA of Jesus Christ in our hearts.
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  • announcer: Thank you for being with us today.
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  • Join Dr. Jeremiah next time as he begins his new series,
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  • "Count it all Joy," here on "Turning Point."
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