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America's Hidden History | Thanksgiving

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November 22, 2018
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Who were the Pilgrims? Why did they come to America? And what really happened when they landed on Plymouth Rock? Find out in the episode of America's Hidden History

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  • - Hi, I'm Tim Barton from WallBuilders,
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  • and this is America's Hidden History
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  • where we learn about events from history
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  • and the people that shaped those events.
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  • Today, we're talking about Thanksgiving
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  • and really the history of the Pilgrims.
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  • Now we're gonna learn today about what led the Pilgrims
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  • out of England to Holland and finally to America.
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  • We're gonna discover what they really did here at Plymouth
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  • and things that we still do in America today that we do
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  • because of the contribution of the Pilgrims.
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  • They truly were a remarkable people.
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  • And who they were and what they contributed to America
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  • is America's hidden history.
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  • - [Presenter] Modern historians have revised, rewritten
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  • and even deleted entire chapters of American history.
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  • So what are we missing?
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  • What happened to the history that didn't make the books?
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  • Join historian David Barton, Tim Barton and special guests
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  • as they uncover the facts some historians
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  • don't want you to know.
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  • This is America's Hidden History.
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  • - So we're here at Plymouth Rock
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  • and this is actually where the Pilgrims landed
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  • when they came to America.
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  • And because it's around Thanksgiving, right,
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  • every Thanksgiving, one of the groups
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  • we talk about is the Pilgrims.
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  • But if we're gonna talk about the Pilgrims,
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  • really we have to back up just a little bit
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  • to understand more of who they are
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  • and actually why they even came to America.
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  • - And while the Pilgrims are important to us today
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  • and our Thanksgiving holiday kinda centers around them,
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  • the Pilgrims have been important for centuries, literally.
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  • I mean here we are in Massachusetts
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  • where the Pilgrims landed and this is the home
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  • of John Adams and John Hancock and Sam Adams
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  • and so many founding fathers.
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  • And it's interesting that the people
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  • we call founding fathers thought the Pilgrims
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  • were their founding fathers.
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  • They were actually here at this spot.
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  • They gave famous speeches about
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  • their founding fathers, the Pilgrims.
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  • And so the Pilgrims became in America
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  • the model of religious liberty and of civil liberty
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  • and ruled by law and have written documents
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  • and so many good things.
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  • And so those folks we call Pilgrims,
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  • we've respected them in America for hundreds of years,
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  • but their story really goes back
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  • even hundreds of years before that
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  • to what we now call the Reformation.
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  • - Yeah, if you're gonna understand the Pilgrims,
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  • you really have to go back to understand
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  • part of why the Reformation even happened
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  • because that's what's built leading up to the Pilgrims.
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  • Because the Reformation go back to guys like Wicklyf, Tindal
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  • people that really helped bring the Bible
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  • back to common man.
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  • At that point, the Bible wasn't provided for common man,
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  • it wasn't in a language that normal people
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  • could read and understand it.
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  • Ad these guys are saying, we need to get back to the Bible.
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  • - That's right.
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  • - But for their efforts,
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  • they were executed. - That's right.
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  • - The early guys trying to produce the Bible,
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  • the early reformers, many of them
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  • were burned at the stake or they were beheaded
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  • or, all these terrible things happened to them
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  • because at that point the government
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  • didn't really want people going back to the Bible.
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  • - Yeah, they had been almost
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  • a thousand years before the Pilgrims,
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  • where you could not have a Bible yourself.
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  • You could go to the church, but you weren't really readin',
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  • it was high literacy, what we call the Dark Ages,
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  • they're saying these guys are reading the Bible
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  • like Tindal and like Wickliffe and Hudson.
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  • So many others said, everybody needs to read God's word,
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  • and they get killed for that.
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  • But it just takes a while to be able
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  • to get that workin' down.
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  • So it's really a span of about 250 years before the Pilgrims
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  • in seven different nations with almost
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  • two dozen different reformers saying,
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  • back to the Bible, back to the Bible, back to the Bible,
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  • and there's so much resistance because you had
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  • state established churches back then.
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  • And the more the people got back to the Bible,
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  • the more they wanted freedom,
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  • the more they wanted to live according to the Bible;
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  • and the more that's bad for kings.
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  • And so particularly with the Pilgrims being English,
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  • you go to Henry the VIII.
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  • And Henry VIII was a king who said,
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  • no Bible reading allowed, because he created a church
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  • in his own name, literally.
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  • I mean he created his own state church
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  • to have his own doctrines and he didn't want people
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  • differing to those doctrines.
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  • - Well, it is because of the doctrines of the church,
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  • at that point, didn't allow him to do
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  • what he wanted to do, right?
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  • Because he was trying to have a son
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  • and his wife wouldn't give him a son until
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  • and so he wants a divorce, but at that time
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  • you couldn't get a divorce in the church.
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  • He actually said, you know what,
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  • I'll just create my own denomination
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  • and I will grant divorce.
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  • And so he starts his own denomination,
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  • starts his own church where he can grant what he wants
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  • and actually begins changing laws at that time.
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  • And this is one of the things
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  • even interesting about the reformers
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  • is they were already writing things
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  • about what kings like Henry VIII was doing,
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  • making really religion in their own image
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  • and they were saying, wait a second,
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  • that's not what the Bible says; here's what the Bible says.
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  • And so King Henry VIII is a great example of someone
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  • who distorts religion just to promote what they wanna do.
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  • - And they wanna shut up the critics.
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  • And a great example is King Henry VIII's daughter, Mary
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  • becomes the queen after him.
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  • And Mary just kills everybody who doesn't--
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  • - Bloody Mary.
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  • - Bloody Mary, exactly. - Right, that was her.
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  • - She just flat kills you if you read the Bible
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  • or if you disagree with what she says a monarch.
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  • So you get this hard-fisted state established church,
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  • there's tyranny goin' on, and at the same time
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  • you got these people saying, no, that's wrong,
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  • here's what the Bible says, I don't care what you say,
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  • here's what the Bible says.
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  • And so it starts this movement, if you will,
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  • they were called Puritans.
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  • They wanna purify the church.
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  • They want the church to go back to what the Bible says,
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  • not what the king or queen says.
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  • And so these Puritans started really growing in England
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  • and they're trying to get to the Bible.
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  • And then you come to King Henry VIII's
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  • another daughter Elizabeth.
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  • And Elizabeth, as soon as she becomes queen, she says,
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  • national announcement, I'm head of the church and the state.
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  • With these Puritans, one of their leaders, John Greenwood,
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  • who's a pastor, he said, excuse me,
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  • Jesus Christ is head of the church.
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  • She executed him.
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  • Now it's at about that point in time
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  • that all these reformers,
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  • all they've been saying for 250 years,
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  • they finally get it together in a single Bible,
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  • it's called the Geneva Bible
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  • 'cause it was printed in Geneva,
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  • and that's what the Puritans took and used
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  • and they studied that Bible.
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  • It's the first Bible of available for the common man
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  • in the English language.
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  • Again a thousand years without having a Bible you can read,
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  • now the English people have a Bible they can read.
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  • And the more they read that Bible,
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  • the more problems it causes for their leaders.
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  • - Well, this Bible is also full of commentary
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  • from all these early reformers.
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  • And so these reformers are pointing out things
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  • that the kings are doing that are not
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  • what the Bible actually says
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  • and so this Bible is incredibly unpopular,
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  • especially to the kings, so then you have
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  • King James come to the throne.
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  • King James is very tyrannical.
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  • He says, there'll be no more Bible reading,
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  • anymore of that Geneva Bible, bans the Geneva Bible
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  • there in England because it has commentary
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  • that says things that are against what he's doing
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  • and so he says, but I will give you a Bible,
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  • and this was the entrance of the King James Bible.
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  • And the significant thing between the Geneva
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  • and the King James Bible, the King James Bible,
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  • although we could talk about,
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  • sure, it's very scholarly, it's very well-translated;
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  • it removed all the commentary from reformers.
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  • And King James starts having his church promote,
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  • we've always had kings and kings are God's idea
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  • and we're wonderful people and you should do
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  • everything we say.
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  • But under him, there's still so much persecution
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  • that this is where the Puritans are realizing,
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  • this really isn't a very comfortable spot for us to be.
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  • - Well, he targets them and said,
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  • I'm going to harry them, which means harass,
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  • I'm going to harass them out of the country.
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  • And so he started passing policies and acting policies
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  • against the Puritans.
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  • And a group of the Puritans said,
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  • let's just leave, let's get outta here.
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  • Some of them said, no, we need to stay and reform it,
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  • but the ones that left are called Separatists
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  • and that's the one we call the Pilgrims
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  • 'cause he passed a law that says,
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  • anyone who criticizes the ecclesiastical supremacy
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  • of the king, you're going to prison without bail,
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  • you're not gettin' out.
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  • And prisons back then were not nice;
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  • they were very dungeon kinda places.
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  • And that's when the Pilgrims said, okay, we're outta here.
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  • And they went to Holland at that point,
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  • because in Holland you could have religious liberty.
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  • Now you weren't English citizens, you were in new country
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  • but at least you could have religious liberty
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  • which you could not have in England.
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  • (questing music)
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  • - So we're here at Plymouth Rock
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  • and talking about Thanksgiving and the Pilgrims.
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  • And so we looked to the fact that Pilgrims
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  • are dealing with a lot of persecution,
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  • in fact, all over Europe, there's a lot of tyrannal kings;
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  • it's very much the same way in England,
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  • a lot of tyranny, they're losing their civil
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  • and their religious liberties and they're thinking,
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  • we need to find a place we can enjoy freedom,
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  • we wanna raise our kids and our families in a place
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  • where they have some freedom, where can we go?
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  • This is when they find Holland.
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  • Now in Holland there's a large Dutch community.
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  • The Dutch had been driven out of Spain
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  • very similar to what the Pilgrims were going through
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  • where the Dutch had lost their religious freedom
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  • and the oppression against them
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  • and the tyranny against them and so they had fled
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  • to the Dutch established colony in Holland.
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  • And in this colony, they promote religious toleration
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  • and civil freedom.
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  • And so the Pilgrims go to this place where now
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  • they can have this civil and religious freedom in Holland.
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  • - And it's really a different culture for them.
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  • They've been agriculture their whole life in England,
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  • now they're in Holland and it's more mechanical;
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  • they don't have the same agriculture there.
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  • And in addition to that,
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  • they still got their home churches going,
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  • they're doing the Bible studies,
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  • they're doing good stuff reading the Bible
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  • but they have to learn a new language as well
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  • and that's not a really easy language, the Dutch language,
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  • and it's a different culture.
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  • I mean they've been Englishmen their whole lives,
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  • their families have been Englishmen,
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  • they've got the Magna Carta and they got English traditions
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  • even though the kings are violating
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  • so much of their civil and religious freedom.
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  • So they've got this thing going on
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  • where they really get to practice their faith,
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  • but it's a little more difficult for them.
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  • And unbeknownst to them, while they're there
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  • in that situation on the other side of the globe,
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  • essentially, there's something going on
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  • that's going to be important for them.
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  • Because here in America, we don't have New England yet,
  • 00:09:45.090 --> 00:09:48.160
  • there haven't been any settlers up here.
  • 00:09:48.160 --> 00:09:50.280
  • So we do have the Virginia colony
  • 00:09:50.280 --> 00:09:52.150
  • hundreds of miles south of here,
  • 00:09:52.150 --> 00:09:54.090
  • and the man who was the governor of the Virginia Colony,
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  • John Smith is actually an explorer
  • 00:09:56.280 --> 00:09:59.090
  • and he came exploring up into this area.
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  • So he's up in this area.
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  • He's mapping out the New England area.
  • 00:10:03.060 --> 00:10:05.050
  • He kinda names it New England, which becomes important
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  • for where the Pilgrims need to come later,
  • 00:10:07.290 --> 00:10:10.130
  • but they don't know that's happening yet
  • 00:10:10.130 --> 00:10:11.170
  • so they're back in Holland.
  • 00:10:11.170 --> 00:10:13.120
  • - And so if they're gonna find a new place,
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  • the problem at that point is the kings own everything.
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  • Even though they start making contact
  • 00:10:19.210 --> 00:10:21.060
  • with the Virginia company, they have to get permission
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  • from the king before they could even come to the new land.
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  • They find out that they will be allowed
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  • to come to the new land under this charter
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  • and they're chartering provisions
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  • and work requirements are gonna put on them.
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  • - [David] And the king kinda gives a wink
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  • and a nod and says, okay,
  • 00:10:35.180 --> 00:10:36.260
  • if you get way over there away from me,
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  • I won't pay attention to you.
  • 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.060
  • - So they're required to go to Virginia.
  • 00:10:40.060 --> 00:10:42.170
  • Now we're in Massachusetts, which is where they landed,
  • 00:10:42.170 --> 00:10:46.040
  • so have something happening along the way
  • 00:10:46.040 --> 00:10:48.130
  • that doesn't work out well.
  • 00:10:48.130 --> 00:10:49.180
  • So when they are leaving, even Holland,
  • 00:10:49.180 --> 00:10:51.290
  • they actually get a ship and they get the Speedwell,
  • 00:10:51.290 --> 00:10:55.090
  • and they're gonna go and actually go back
  • 00:10:55.090 --> 00:10:57.180
  • and they connect in England,
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  • and this where the Mayflower is.
  • 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:00.190
  • And so in England there's a Mayflower and the Speedwell
  • 00:11:00.190 --> 00:11:02.200
  • and there's two ships that are going together.
  • 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.260
  • But as they leave England to come to the new world,
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  • the Speedwell starts leaking and it keeps leaking.
  • 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:12.010
  • - And it keeps leaking and it's, the guys on the Speedwell
  • 00:11:12.010 --> 00:11:15.160
  • did not want to go to the new land.
  • 00:11:15.160 --> 00:11:17.100
  • That's a wild savage land there.
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  • We don't wanna go there.
  • 00:11:19.150 --> 00:11:20.260
  • - So the accusation is that crewmen,
  • 00:11:20.260 --> 00:11:23.210
  • people onboard the Speedwell,
  • 00:11:23.210 --> 00:11:25.050
  • actually were drilling holes in the boat on purpose.
  • 00:11:25.050 --> 00:11:28.110
  • - Oh, we got another water and a leak.
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  • We gotta turn back. - Because they didn't wanna go
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  • to the new world.
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  • Like, aww, man, it just keeps leaking.
  • 00:11:31.230 --> 00:11:33.240
  • Aww, we'll just have to not go.
  • 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:36.060
  • So they end up turning and sailing back to England
  • 00:11:36.060 --> 00:11:39.230
  • because they thought, we can't cross the ocean
  • 00:11:39.230 --> 00:11:41.070
  • with all these holes in the boat,
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  • so they get back to England.
  • 00:11:42.250 --> 00:11:44.150
  • The Pilgrims who are so determined,
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  • no, we wanna go to this new world,
  • 00:11:45.220 --> 00:11:47.150
  • that the Pilgrims were able to get on the Mayflower,
  • 00:11:47.150 --> 00:11:49.240
  • 102 of them, they are on the Mayflower
  • 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:51.230
  • now coming to America.
  • 00:11:51.230 --> 00:11:53.080
  • But they're several weeks, maybe even months behind
  • 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:56.020
  • of when they were hoping to get here.
  • 00:11:56.020 --> 00:11:58.030
  • And so now when they're gonna arrive
  • 00:11:58.030 --> 00:12:00.050
  • it's gonna be really late.
  • 00:12:00.050 --> 00:12:01.140
  • Again they have to sail to Virginia,
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  • problem is as they get closer
  • 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.100
  • there's some strong prevailing wind,
  • 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:07.020
  • so they get to Cape Cod in November.
  • 00:12:07.020 --> 00:12:08.210
  • And before they even get off the ship,
  • 00:12:08.210 --> 00:12:10.060
  • they realized there's a lot of different views
  • 00:12:10.060 --> 00:12:12.180
  • 'cause it wasn't just Pilgrims on the ship.
  • 00:12:12.180 --> 00:12:14.150
  • And they said, there's a lot of different views,
  • 00:12:14.150 --> 00:12:16.100
  • and because they're landing in a place
  • 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:18.180
  • that's not established, they were supposed to land
  • 00:12:18.180 --> 00:12:20.100
  • in Virginia where there's already established colony,
  • 00:12:20.100 --> 00:12:22.120
  • now we're coming to a place
  • 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.190
  • where there's not an established colony
  • 00:12:23.190 --> 00:12:24.250
  • which means there's not an established law.
  • 00:12:24.250 --> 00:12:26.240
  • So how do we determine what's right and wrong,
  • 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:29.000
  • who's gonna be in charge?
  • 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:30.090
  • They realized, we're gonna have to form
  • 00:12:30.090 --> 00:12:32.110
  • a civil body politic, right, form our own government
  • 00:12:32.110 --> 00:12:35.100
  • before we get off or it's gonna be chaos.
  • 00:12:35.100 --> 00:12:37.230
  • So this is when they write the Mayflower Compact.
  • 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:40.100
  • And there's 41 of them of the men
  • 00:12:40.100 --> 00:12:42.000
  • who actually signed this document.
  • 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.140
  • - And then on top of that, they had an election.
  • 00:12:43.140 --> 00:12:46.170
  • They chose their own governor.
  • 00:12:46.170 --> 00:12:48.090
  • So it's not by birth, you have this
  • 00:12:48.090 --> 00:12:50.010
  • hereditary King Henry VIII that is--
  • 00:12:50.010 --> 00:12:51.210
  • - Or appointment by a king. - That's right.
  • 00:12:51.210 --> 00:12:53.040
  • - Saying, the king, well, that's your leader.
  • 00:12:53.040 --> 00:12:54.090
  • They actually--
  • 00:12:54.090 --> 00:12:55.110
  • - They had to elect, unanimous,
  • 00:12:55.110 --> 00:12:56.260
  • they chose John Carver to be their first governor.
  • 00:12:56.260 --> 00:12:59.180
  • But this is the first civil document ever written
  • 00:12:59.180 --> 00:13:02.240
  • in North America, was on that ship,
  • 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.290
  • and then they elect their leaders.
  • 00:13:04.290 --> 00:13:06.190
  • I mean, what a difference that is.
  • 00:13:06.190 --> 00:13:08.210
  • - Well, then they have to send out explorers to figure out,
  • 00:13:08.210 --> 00:13:10.240
  • where can we have a community,
  • 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.240
  • because they tried to sail south
  • 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.170
  • but the winds were blowing north
  • 00:13:14.170 --> 00:13:15.250
  • and so they couldn't sail south.
  • 00:13:15.250 --> 00:13:17.160
  • They said, we're gonna have to stay somewhere up here.
  • 00:13:17.160 --> 00:13:19.170
  • And they remembered, John Smith actually discovered
  • 00:13:19.170 --> 00:13:22.050
  • some of these places further north, this New England area,
  • 00:13:22.050 --> 00:13:24.280
  • and so they said further north and this is where they land.
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  • The end of December of 1620, they get here,
  • 00:13:28.290 --> 00:13:31.170
  • there's already snow on the ground,
  • 00:13:31.170 --> 00:13:33.000
  • winter is already here, but this is the spot
  • 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.220
  • where the Pilgrims landed in 1620.
  • 00:13:35.220 --> 00:13:37.220
  • - Their boat was right out there.
  • 00:13:37.220 --> 00:13:39.120
  • They got out of the boat in the shallow cove,
  • 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:41.030
  • they waited ashore and they came ashore over here
  • 00:13:41.030 --> 00:13:43.200
  • at what's called Plymouth Rock.
  • 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:45.190
  • Now Plymouth Rock was famous.
  • 00:13:45.190 --> 00:13:47.040
  • It was known as this is where the forefathers landed.
  • 00:13:47.040 --> 00:13:49.130
  • So in the 1860s, they built this area over
  • 00:13:49.130 --> 00:13:52.180
  • to protect Plymouth Rock.
  • 00:13:52.180 --> 00:13:54.090
  • And in 1880, they moved the rock back here
  • 00:13:54.090 --> 00:13:56.150
  • and they carved 1620 on it,
  • 00:13:56.150 --> 00:13:58.270
  • the landing time of the Pilgrims.
  • 00:13:58.270 --> 00:14:00.140
  • So that's what you see.
  • 00:14:00.140 --> 00:14:01.280
  • That's Plymouth Rock, that's how it came to be,
  • 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:03.140
  • but this is where the Pilgrims came ashore back in 1620.
  • 00:14:03.140 --> 00:14:07.090
  • (dramatic music)
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  • (questing music)
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  • - So right by Plymouth Rock,
  • 00:14:24.230 --> 00:14:26.000
  • there's a statue of William Bradford,
  • 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.050
  • who was the most famous governor of the Pilgrims.
  • 00:14:28.050 --> 00:14:30.120
  • And Bradford was a guy who really did a lot
  • 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.180
  • to help establish the Pilgrims,
  • 00:14:32.180 --> 00:14:34.040
  • and even a lot that first winter
  • 00:14:34.040 --> 00:14:36.010
  • that was such brutal conditions when they landed.
  • 00:14:36.010 --> 00:14:38.090
  • - And we know a lot about those brutal conditions
  • 00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:40.060
  • because he's the historian for the Pilgrims.
  • 00:14:40.060 --> 00:14:42.040
  • He wrote it all down.
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  • He's one of the guys who actually explored this harbor
  • 00:14:43.170 --> 00:14:45.270
  • when they were looking for a place to live.
  • 00:14:45.270 --> 00:14:47.210
  • So he came here, he helped bring the ship back,
  • 00:14:47.210 --> 00:14:50.030
  • they get off at Plymouth Rock.
  • 00:14:50.030 --> 00:14:51.240
  • And when they get here it is really, really tough;
  • 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:54.090
  • it is a Massachusetts's late December winter.
  • 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:57.270
  • There's snow everywhere.
  • 00:14:57.270 --> 00:14:59.160
  • They don't have any place to live.
  • 00:14:59.160 --> 00:15:00.290
  • They get off and they're lookin'
  • 00:15:00.290 --> 00:15:02.060
  • and they actually find some Indian wigwams
  • 00:15:02.060 --> 00:15:03.290
  • and places where people have lived but it's all abandoned.
  • 00:15:03.290 --> 00:15:06.120
  • There's no one there.
  • 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:07.260
  • And so they're looking for places to build homes.
  • 00:15:07.260 --> 00:15:09.230
  • And every day they go out exploring, then they come back.
  • 00:15:09.230 --> 00:15:11.220
  • And at night, they have to get back on the ship
  • 00:15:11.220 --> 00:15:13.120
  • which is sittin' in the water with no heat.
  • 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.060
  • I mean it is a rough, rough time.
  • 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:18.090
  • And Governor Bradford reports at one time,
  • 00:15:18.090 --> 00:15:20.180
  • of 102 of them there were only seven that were not sick.
  • 00:15:20.180 --> 00:15:24.110
  • And those seven are trying to take care of everyone else,
  • 00:15:24.110 --> 00:15:26.200
  • trying to build homes.
  • 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:27.280
  • It is so rough that by the time they get
  • 00:15:27.280 --> 00:15:29.150
  • to that first winter, half of the Pilgrims died.
  • 00:15:29.150 --> 00:15:32.110
  • They just weren't prepared to live here.
  • 00:15:32.110 --> 00:15:33.270
  • They didn't know what to do in this land.
  • 00:15:33.270 --> 00:15:35.180
  • - Probably many more of them would've died,
  • 00:15:35.180 --> 00:15:37.130
  • maybe all of them except there was an instrument
  • 00:15:37.130 --> 00:15:40.170
  • of providence that was sent to them,
  • 00:15:40.170 --> 00:15:42.120
  • at least as a way Bradford kind of describes it,
  • 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:44.120
  • and that was Samoset.
  • 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:45.220
  • There was an Indian they met
  • 00:15:45.220 --> 00:15:47.010
  • and actually spoke some English.
  • 00:15:47.010 --> 00:15:48.270
  • But Samoset didn't speak very much English.
  • 00:15:48.270 --> 00:15:50.110
  • He says, I've got someone that I can get to you,
  • 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:53.060
  • and he speaks little more.
  • 00:15:53.060 --> 00:15:54.180
  • And this is where Squanto enters the scene.
  • 00:15:54.180 --> 00:15:56.210
  • And Squanto's back-story is actually kind of interesting.
  • 00:15:56.210 --> 00:15:59.060
  • So John Smith is a guy who would come to America,
  • 00:15:59.060 --> 00:16:01.230
  • who had explored.
  • 00:16:01.230 --> 00:16:03.090
  • When John Smith was here, there were other captains
  • 00:16:03.090 --> 00:16:05.200
  • and other crews that had come, one of them was Thomas Hunt.
  • 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.280
  • And he was part of John Smith's crew,
  • 00:16:07.280 --> 00:16:10.020
  • at least part of their, they travel together.
  • 00:16:10.020 --> 00:16:12.150
  • So John Smith, he leaves on a ship;
  • 00:16:12.150 --> 00:16:14.140
  • Thomas Hunt stays behind.
  • 00:16:14.140 --> 00:16:16.010
  • And Thomas Hunt actually went and captured 27 Indians.
  • 00:16:16.010 --> 00:16:19.260
  • He was taking them back to Europe.
  • 00:16:19.260 --> 00:16:22.010
  • So Thomas Hunt brings those Indians
  • 00:16:22.010 --> 00:16:23.190
  • and actually starts selling them into slavery.
  • 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:25.120
  • There's a group of monks that saw what he was doing
  • 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.130
  • and they bought all the Indians
  • 00:16:27.130 --> 00:16:29.010
  • that he hadn't yet sold into slavery,
  • 00:16:29.010 --> 00:16:31.050
  • they brought them back to their mission,
  • 00:16:31.050 --> 00:16:32.240
  • they taught them English, they're promoting
  • 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.270
  • Christian values to them.
  • 00:16:34.270 --> 00:16:36.100
  • This is where Squanto learns English.
  • 00:16:36.100 --> 00:16:38.140
  • Well, in 1619, John Smith brings Squanto back to America.
  • 00:16:38.140 --> 00:16:43.140
  • And so Squanto's been over in England, he's learned English,
  • 00:16:44.280 --> 00:16:47.120
  • he's learned these Christian values and principles.
  • 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.120
  • So Squanto actually teaches them
  • 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:50.200
  • how to live in this new world, how to survive,
  • 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.180
  • how to hunt, how to fish, how to plant.
  • 00:16:52.180 --> 00:16:54.210
  • So he's really the one that helps them be able to make it.
  • 00:16:54.210 --> 00:16:57.190
  • - And he's key, because while he was gone
  • 00:16:57.190 --> 00:16:59.190
  • hi entire tribe was wiped out by a plague
  • 00:16:59.190 --> 00:17:02.200
  • and that's what the Pilgrims have found when they got here
  • 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.160
  • was all these uninhabited places.
  • 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:06.080
  • So Squanto gets back to his people
  • 00:17:06.080 --> 00:17:08.020
  • and, oh my gosh, his people are gone.
  • 00:17:08.020 --> 00:17:10.190
  • But here's a bunch of guys that don't know
  • 00:17:10.190 --> 00:17:12.090
  • how to live in the land and they're in the same area,
  • 00:17:12.090 --> 00:17:14.240
  • and he takes it as his mission to show them
  • 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.190
  • how to survive in this land.
  • 00:17:16.190 --> 00:17:18.000
  • As a matter of fact, he showed them how to fish.
  • 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.160
  • In the entire preceding several months
  • 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.210
  • they'd only caught one fish.
  • 00:17:22.210 --> 00:17:24.120
  • And then he takes them out and shows how to fish
  • 00:17:24.120 --> 00:17:26.150
  • and so suddenly they start having food
  • 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:28.150
  • like they've never had because they went
  • 00:17:28.150 --> 00:17:30.000
  • to that first winter starving essentially.
  • 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.050
  • - And this is where at the end of that year
  • 00:17:32.050 --> 00:17:34.240
  • that the first Thanksgiving happened.
  • 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:36.160
  • And you have Chief Massasoit,
  • 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:37.240
  • and he actually brings 90 Indian braves.
  • 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:40.080
  • They've hunted, they've gathered.
  • 00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:41.150
  • So they're providing a lot for this party.
  • 00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:43.270
  • They had three days of festivities of activities.
  • 00:17:43.270 --> 00:17:46.280
  • But part of what they did was thank God
  • 00:17:46.280 --> 00:17:49.090
  • for the relationship that God had given them
  • 00:17:49.090 --> 00:17:51.180
  • with Samoset, with Squanto, even with Chief Massasoit
  • 00:17:51.180 --> 00:17:53.280
  • and these Indians and they made
  • 00:17:53.280 --> 00:17:55.050
  • a treaty with them and it was actually
  • 00:17:55.050 --> 00:17:56.150
  • the longest-lasting treaty-- - That's right.
  • 00:17:56.150 --> 00:17:57.220
  • - Between any Anglos and any Indians.
  • 00:17:57.220 --> 00:17:58.270
  • I mean, really impressive stuff.
  • 00:17:58.270 --> 00:18:00.190
  • But they have this first Thanksgiving which is even,
  • 00:18:00.190 --> 00:18:02.290
  • where today we get our tradition,
  • 00:18:02.290 --> 00:18:04.200
  • where they're thinking God for what God had done.
  • 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.050
  • And so things were going very well
  • 00:18:07.050 --> 00:18:08.290
  • until the spring of 1623.
  • 00:18:08.290 --> 00:18:12.250
  • And at this point, they've had more people
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  • that are coming in, more people are joining their community,
  • 00:18:15.170 --> 00:18:17.170
  • they're now growing, they're expanding.
  • 00:18:17.170 --> 00:18:19.070
  • And as they're planting their crops,
  • 00:18:19.070 --> 00:18:20.260
  • the problem is they don't get rain.
  • 00:18:20.260 --> 00:18:22.150
  • And as everybody whose ever had a garden
  • 00:18:22.150 --> 00:18:25.040
  • or everybody whose ever done any kind of farming
  • 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:26.210
  • or paid attention in any kind of earth science
  • 00:18:26.210 --> 00:18:29.140
  • knows if you don't have rain your crops aren't gonna grow.
  • 00:18:29.140 --> 00:18:32.260
  • And they recognized, with no crops, we're not gonna survive.
  • 00:18:32.260 --> 00:18:36.170
  • - And so what happened at that point was
  • 00:18:36.170 --> 00:18:38.130
  • they set aside a day for fasting.
  • 00:18:38.130 --> 00:18:41.030
  • They said, if we don't get rain,
  • 00:18:41.030 --> 00:18:42.140
  • if we don't get God to send rain
  • 00:18:42.140 --> 00:18:43.290
  • we're gonna be in real trouble.
  • 00:18:43.290 --> 00:18:45.060
  • And they started praying and clouds gathered
  • 00:18:45.060 --> 00:18:47.020
  • and a gentle rain started falling on the crops.
  • 00:18:47.020 --> 00:18:49.160
  • An Indian came to them and said, we just saw that,
  • 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.180
  • we saw you prayin' fast, we saw your God answer;
  • 00:18:52.180 --> 00:18:56.160
  • we don't get that kind of rain this time of year,
  • 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.170
  • we don't get gentle rains.
  • 00:18:58.170 --> 00:19:00.040
  • If we get rains, it's a destructive kind of storm,
  • 00:19:00.040 --> 00:19:02.150
  • the stuff that goes with hail that beats the crops down.
  • 00:19:02.150 --> 00:19:05.170
  • I wanna know your God.
  • 00:19:05.170 --> 00:19:07.010
  • And literally, God answering their prayer caused that Indian
  • 00:19:07.010 --> 00:19:09.250
  • to want to become a Christian as a result.
  • 00:19:09.250 --> 00:19:12.070
  • And so that time of fasting actually led
  • 00:19:12.070 --> 00:19:14.100
  • to another annual tradition.
  • 00:19:14.100 --> 00:19:15.220
  • - And this is something that the Pilgrims
  • 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:17.060
  • really were responsible for two traditions,
  • 00:19:17.060 --> 00:19:19.220
  • very influential in the New England area,
  • 00:19:19.220 --> 00:19:21.220
  • many colonies embrace, this is every spring,
  • 00:19:21.220 --> 00:19:24.140
  • they would do prayer and fasting days
  • 00:19:24.140 --> 00:19:26.100
  • or governors would do prayer and fasting proclamations.
  • 00:19:26.100 --> 00:19:28.260
  • And then every fall they would do prayer
  • 00:19:28.260 --> 00:19:31.050
  • and Thanksgiving proclamations
  • 00:19:31.050 --> 00:19:32.200
  • or days of prayer and Thanksgiving
  • 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:34.100
  • to thank God for what He'd done.
  • 00:19:34.100 --> 00:19:36.000
  • And this is just again another little glimpse
  • 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.230
  • of the impact of the Pilgrims.
  • 00:19:38.230 --> 00:19:40.220
  • (questing music)
  • 00:19:40.220 --> 00:19:43.150
  • We're outside the Jenney Museum.
  • 00:19:50.220 --> 00:19:52.170
  • Actually behind this is the Plymouth Grist Mill
  • 00:19:52.170 --> 00:19:55.040
  • which a lot of Pilgrim activity happened here.
  • 00:19:55.040 --> 00:19:58.000
  • And as we're talking about Thanksgiving,
  • 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.190
  • there's really nobody better to talk about this
  • 00:19:59.190 --> 00:20:02.130
  • than with Leo Martin.
  • 00:20:02.130 --> 00:20:03.220
  • So, Leo, thanks for being with us today.
  • 00:20:03.220 --> 00:20:05.050
  • - My pleasure, thank you for having me.
  • 00:20:05.050 --> 00:20:06.120
  • - So as we talk about the Pilgrims,
  • 00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:09.040
  • there's a lot of things that Americans don't know
  • 00:20:09.040 --> 00:20:11.210
  • and certainly you are very familiar with,
  • 00:20:11.210 --> 00:20:13.270
  • and so I would love to kinda get an understanding from you
  • 00:20:13.270 --> 00:20:16.180
  • of maybe who the Pilgrims were and some of their story.
  • 00:20:16.180 --> 00:20:20.170
  • - What we like to do with the museum
  • 00:20:20.170 --> 00:20:22.030
  • is we talk about the Pilgrims, 102 people
  • 00:20:22.030 --> 00:20:24.190
  • that came on the Mayflower, 51 dying in the first winter.
  • 00:20:24.190 --> 00:20:27.220
  • So we talk about how 51 people
  • 00:20:27.220 --> 00:20:30.190
  • changed the world as we know it today.
  • 00:20:30.190 --> 00:20:32.200
  • And they didn't just change it in one area;
  • 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.220
  • they changed it because of their faith
  • 00:20:34.220 --> 00:20:36.160
  • and their faith ran through the whole story.
  • 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.190
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:20:38.190 --> 00:20:40.030
  • - And they valued their faith, they valued their family,
  • 00:20:40.030 --> 00:20:41.130
  • they valued property ownership.
  • 00:20:41.130 --> 00:20:44.010
  • And all this comes into play as we stand in front
  • 00:20:44.010 --> 00:20:46.220
  • of the site of the oldest mill
  • 00:20:46.220 --> 00:20:48.070
  • in the United States, built in 1636.
  • 00:20:48.070 --> 00:20:51.060
  • That is the beginning of capitalism in our country.
  • 00:20:51.060 --> 00:20:53.130
  • The gentleman that built that mill, a man named John Jenney,
  • 00:20:53.130 --> 00:20:56.220
  • is the first person in the country
  • 00:20:56.220 --> 00:20:57.250
  • to be paid for his service.
  • 00:20:57.250 --> 00:20:59.220
  • He was paid to run the mill.
  • 00:20:59.220 --> 00:21:01.030
  • - Now who would've paid him for that?
  • 00:21:01.030 --> 00:21:02.250
  • - Well, here's the way that worked.
  • 00:21:02.250 --> 00:21:04.090
  • When our Pilgrims originally came to Plymouth,
  • 00:21:04.090 --> 00:21:06.030
  • their economic situation was communal.
  • 00:21:06.030 --> 00:21:08.160
  • And, of course, that means that everybody on the plantation
  • 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.260
  • worked in the same field and grew their food
  • 00:21:10.260 --> 00:21:12.230
  • and at the end of the season they simply evenly split
  • 00:21:12.230 --> 00:21:15.030
  • with each other what they produced.
  • 00:21:15.030 --> 00:21:16.230
  • Sounds fair enough and, of course, it didn't work.
  • 00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:18.290
  • (laughter)
  • 00:21:18.290 --> 00:21:19.240
  • Yeah, so, why?
  • 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.020
  • - No, it seems odd that socialism doesn't work.
  • 00:21:21.020 --> 00:21:22.200
  • - Well, go figure. - Right?
  • 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:23.280
  • - Yeah, the problem we have today, I believe,
  • 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:26.000
  • is we don't look back at history and learn.
  • 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.000
  • - Sure.
  • 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:28.280
  • - Socialism doesn't work.
  • 00:21:28.280 --> 00:21:30.050
  • So three years into to the adventure,
  • 00:21:30.050 --> 00:21:32.150
  • we've lost half our population, everybody's starving
  • 00:21:32.150 --> 00:21:35.060
  • so William Bradford changed the deal.
  • 00:21:35.060 --> 00:21:36.270
  • He says, now we're gonna go to land ownership;
  • 00:21:36.270 --> 00:21:39.020
  • every family will own their own land,
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  • grow the food, feed themselves
  • 00:21:41.080 --> 00:21:43.250
  • and then simply trade with each other
  • 00:21:43.250 --> 00:21:45.100
  • what they had left over, of course, we call that free trade.
  • 00:21:45.100 --> 00:21:47.240
  • - Sure, and this prevented some of the people
  • 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.220
  • 'cause Bradford even wrote about
  • 00:21:49.220 --> 00:21:50.290
  • how people would fake sickness and injury
  • 00:21:50.290 --> 00:21:52.190
  • and they wouldn't work and be productive.
  • 00:21:52.190 --> 00:21:54.170
  • At this point, you don't have an option
  • 00:21:54.170 --> 00:21:56.080
  • not to work and be productive.
  • 00:21:56.080 --> 00:21:57.180
  • - Exactly, right.
  • 00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:58.170
  • - Or you're not gonna survive.
  • 00:21:58.170 --> 00:21:59.200
  • - Exactly.
  • 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:00.280
  • - So it really kinda forces people
  • 00:22:00.280 --> 00:22:02.240
  • to be productive for themselves,
  • 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.210
  • which certainly is a biblical thought that we need
  • 00:22:04.210 --> 00:22:06.290
  • to have individual responsibility and be producers,
  • 00:22:06.290 --> 00:22:09.280
  • but Bradford seems to follow this biblical notion
  • 00:22:09.280 --> 00:22:12.120
  • away from communal into private responsibility.
  • 00:22:12.120 --> 00:22:16.050
  • - But the problem now is all families are going out
  • 00:22:16.050 --> 00:22:19.130
  • and working for themselves and producing
  • 00:22:19.130 --> 00:22:21.020
  • and then trading with one another.
  • 00:22:21.020 --> 00:22:22.270
  • Well, by 1636, we had over 500 people in Plymouth
  • 00:22:22.270 --> 00:22:26.270
  • to grind corn with a mortar and pestle,
  • 00:22:26.270 --> 00:22:28.270
  • a hard ol' log, we would crush the corn into cornmeal
  • 00:22:28.270 --> 00:22:31.180
  • was not efficient.
  • 00:22:31.180 --> 00:22:33.020
  • So this gentleman called John Jenney said,
  • 00:22:33.020 --> 00:22:35.010
  • look, this is what I'm gonna do.
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  • I'm gonna build a mill and I'll grind corn for everybody.
  • 00:22:36.150 --> 00:22:40.180
  • But now here's the problem,
  • 00:22:40.180 --> 00:22:42.030
  • he can't go out in the field and work.
  • 00:22:42.030 --> 00:22:43.080
  • - Right, right.
  • 00:22:43.080 --> 00:22:44.160
  • - Had to be paid.
  • 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:46.020
  • So he was the first person in the country to be paid.
  • 00:22:46.020 --> 00:22:48.000
  • But he wasn't paid money; he was paid corn.
  • 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.250
  • Money had no value in Plymouth.
  • 00:22:51.260 --> 00:22:53.030
  • - Sure, what are you gonna buy with it?
  • 00:22:53.030 --> 00:22:54.130
  • - Exactly. - Yeah.
  • 00:22:54.130 --> 00:22:55.180
  • - What are you gonna do with money?
  • 00:22:55.180 --> 00:22:56.120
  • The corn was the money.
  • 00:22:56.120 --> 00:22:57.270
  • Every time he ground a bushel of corn, he got two quarts;
  • 00:22:57.270 --> 00:23:01.290
  • that was he got paid; that was called a pottle.
  • 00:23:01.290 --> 00:23:04.290
  • If he charge more than that, he'd be removed from the mill.
  • 00:23:04.290 --> 00:23:08.120
  • So not only did we start free trade, we started regulations.
  • 00:23:08.120 --> 00:23:11.210
  • - Okay. - Go figure.
  • 00:23:11.210 --> 00:23:12.200
  • - Yeah. - I know.
  • 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:13.260
  • - Okay. - But we're all human beings
  • 00:23:13.260 --> 00:23:15.030
  • so, like, okay we have to be checked,
  • 00:23:15.030 --> 00:23:16.280
  • and so they checked John Jenney, but again it's such
  • 00:23:16.280 --> 00:23:19.110
  • an important thing. - Sure.
  • 00:23:19.110 --> 00:23:20.260
  • - That this mill was built for the purpose
  • 00:23:20.260 --> 00:23:23.150
  • is to satisfy a capitalistic system,
  • 00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:26.270
  • where, again you're standing on the side
  • 00:23:26.270 --> 00:23:28.130
  • of the original Plymouth plantation.
  • 00:23:28.130 --> 00:23:29.290
  • The plantation was built right here.
  • 00:23:29.290 --> 00:23:31.250
  • Right over here was Harbor Marsh Village,
  • 00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:33.140
  • the Indian Village right there with the plantation.
  • 00:23:33.140 --> 00:23:36.010
  • So we're standing right here.
  • 00:23:36.010 --> 00:23:37.090
  • And why did the Pilgrims stay here?
  • 00:23:37.090 --> 00:23:38.220
  • Because of the river. - Sure.
  • 00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:40.070
  • - That river, they didn't land here in the beginning,
  • 00:23:40.070 --> 00:23:42.270
  • they landed on the tip
  • 00:23:42.270 --> 00:23:43.250
  • of Cape Cod. - Right.
  • 00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:45.100
  • - Well, that's all sand, not a great spot for a plantation
  • 00:23:45.100 --> 00:23:47.140
  • so what they did is took a little boat, a shallop,
  • 00:23:47.140 --> 00:23:50.040
  • and they explored Cape Cod, found the river and stayed here
  • 00:23:50.040 --> 00:23:54.140
  • simply because that river gave them
  • 00:23:54.140 --> 00:23:56.010
  • three things they had to have.
  • 00:23:56.010 --> 00:23:57.110
  • The first was water power.
  • 00:23:57.110 --> 00:23:58.290
  • Name of the river is Town Brook,
  • 00:23:58.290 --> 00:24:00.180
  • and it's a mile and a half long.
  • 00:24:00.180 --> 00:24:02.100
  • Within in a mile and a half, it drops 80 feet,
  • 00:24:02.100 --> 00:24:04.290
  • good place to put a mill.
  • 00:24:04.290 --> 00:24:06.020
  • - Wow! - Such a good place.
  • 00:24:06.020 --> 00:24:07.170
  • We had 14 mills on the river within a mile and a half.
  • 00:24:07.170 --> 00:24:10.160
  • Again this one, the Jenney Mill,
  • 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.010
  • is the site of the oldest mill in the country.
  • 00:24:12.010 --> 00:24:14.150
  • The second thing, if it never rained in Plymouth
  • 00:24:14.150 --> 00:24:16.160
  • again the water level will never drop.
  • 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.280
  • The river is spring-fed.
  • 00:24:18.280 --> 00:24:20.120
  • We have a constant flow of water coming out of the ground.
  • 00:24:20.120 --> 00:24:22.240
  • Yeah.
  • 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:23.290
  • Now the ground in Plymouth has sand in it.
  • 00:24:23.290 --> 00:24:25.150
  • When the water comes up to the sand, it is filtered,
  • 00:24:25.150 --> 00:24:27.070
  • it does run into the river fresh drinking water.
  • 00:24:27.070 --> 00:24:29.290
  • So they got drinking water and water power.
  • 00:24:29.290 --> 00:24:32.190
  • But sand is not good
  • 00:24:32.190 --> 00:24:34.140
  • for filter-- - Sure.
  • 00:24:34.140 --> 00:24:35.290
  • - It's good for filter, not good for growing corn.
  • 00:24:35.290 --> 00:24:37.040
  • - Right.
  • 00:24:37.040 --> 00:24:38.210
  • - So they had to fertilize heavily, the river supply that.
  • 00:24:38.210 --> 00:24:41.240
  • Fertilize of fish, we call them herring.
  • 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.080
  • - [Tim] Yes.
  • 00:24:44.080 --> 00:24:45.220
  • - Herring lived in the ocean, but when they spawn
  • 00:24:45.220 --> 00:24:47.010
  • they spawn up in our pond.
  • 00:24:47.010 --> 00:24:48.140
  • Every spring they migrate by the mill,
  • 00:24:48.140 --> 00:24:50.080
  • Pilgrims take 'em out of the river,
  • 00:24:50.080 --> 00:24:51.220
  • put them in the ground, fertilize and grow the corn.
  • 00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:53.280
  • - Now was the fertilization something they learned
  • 00:24:53.280 --> 00:24:56.220
  • from the Indians?
  • 00:24:56.220 --> 00:24:57.280
  • - They learned from Squanto. - Okay.
  • 00:24:57.280 --> 00:24:59.120
  • - As a matter of fact, William Bradford did refer to him
  • 00:24:59.120 --> 00:25:01.110
  • as a special gift from God.
  • 00:25:01.110 --> 00:25:02.290
  • But the point is this, when people come to Plymouth
  • 00:25:02.290 --> 00:25:05.110
  • they either believe or are told that the Pilgrims
  • 00:25:05.110 --> 00:25:08.040
  • stole the land from the Indians.
  • 00:25:08.040 --> 00:25:09.230
  • They did not.
  • 00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:11.070
  • The Indians did not want the land.
  • 00:25:11.070 --> 00:25:13.150
  • They would not come back on it because of the plague.
  • 00:25:13.150 --> 00:25:16.140
  • So the Pilgrims took the land nobody wanted.
  • 00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:18.240
  • Everything after that they'd paid for
  • 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.090
  • to the Chief Massasoit.
  • 00:25:20.090 --> 00:25:22.060
  • So the idea that we stole land is not correct.
  • 00:25:22.060 --> 00:25:24.210
  • - And certainly, historically,
  • 00:25:24.210 --> 00:25:26.050
  • I mean there were times land was stolen,
  • 00:25:26.050 --> 00:25:28.130
  • actually it's not something the Pilgrims did.
  • 00:25:28.130 --> 00:25:30.040
  • - No, that's exactly right.
  • 00:25:30.040 --> 00:25:31.120
  • - So although Anglos, I mean, surely we can see,
  • 00:25:31.120 --> 00:25:33.180
  • historically, there were times when there was abuses,
  • 00:25:33.180 --> 00:25:35.230
  • the Pilgrims were so different,
  • 00:25:35.230 --> 00:25:37.140
  • again motivated by their faith.
  • 00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:39.020
  • - Correct.
  • 00:25:39.020 --> 00:25:40.180
  • - But because of their faith, they operated so differently.
  • 00:25:40.180 --> 00:25:42.190
  • I mean we mentioned economics,
  • 00:25:42.190 --> 00:25:44.040
  • but even this notion of private property,
  • 00:25:44.040 --> 00:25:46.090
  • they weren't stealing from the Indians
  • 00:25:46.090 --> 00:25:47.240
  • 'cause they thought that was ungodly,
  • 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:49.170
  • that was unbiblical, you're not supposed to do that.
  • 00:25:49.170 --> 00:25:51.200
  • - That's exactly right.
  • 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:52.290
  • (questing music)
  • 00:25:52.290 --> 00:25:55.220
  • - All right, we are sitting in what ultimately
  • 00:26:04.050 --> 00:26:06.140
  • was the birth of the free market system in America,
  • 00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:09.160
  • the first privately owned business, we are in Aptucxet,
  • 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.060
  • and this is a trading post that was started by the Pilgrims.
  • 00:26:13.060 --> 00:26:16.060
  • Now they've been under contract with,
  • 00:26:16.060 --> 00:26:19.110
  • over in Europe the Virginia Company,
  • 00:26:19.110 --> 00:26:20.250
  • as they're coming to America, right,
  • 00:26:20.250 --> 00:26:22.080
  • and the king says, you can live in Virginia, nowhere else,
  • 00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:25.120
  • and they don't make to Virginia, they land in Cape Cod,
  • 00:26:25.120 --> 00:26:27.080
  • they finally get up to Plymouth.
  • 00:26:27.080 --> 00:26:28.250
  • But part of the contract of them coming,
  • 00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:31.190
  • by permission of the king, was they were gonna have to work
  • 00:26:31.190 --> 00:26:34.150
  • and pay off essentially their indentured
  • 00:26:34.150 --> 00:26:37.030
  • to be able to come to America.
  • 00:26:37.030 --> 00:26:38.240
  • This was something very different than that.
  • 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.020
  • - Yeah, the investors that sponsored them to come said,
  • 00:26:41.020 --> 00:26:43.140
  • okay, we'll take care of your voyage,
  • 00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:45.030
  • okay, take care of everything.
  • 00:26:45.030 --> 00:26:46.140
  • All you do is give us everything you make
  • 00:26:46.140 --> 00:26:48.100
  • for the next seven years.
  • 00:26:48.100 --> 00:26:49.160
  • - Oh, that's all. - That's all.
  • 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:50.280
  • All you gotta do-- - Just give us everything.
  • 00:26:50.280 --> 00:26:52.130
  • No big deal, just everything that you make for seven years.
  • 00:26:52.130 --> 00:26:54.210
  • - Seven years.
  • 00:26:54.210 --> 00:26:55.290
  • But the Pilgrims, although they lost
  • 00:26:55.290 --> 00:26:58.060
  • their economic freedom to do that,
  • 00:26:58.060 --> 00:26:59.210
  • they get their religious freedom
  • 00:26:59.210 --> 00:27:01.070
  • and for them that was a trade they were willing to make.
  • 00:27:01.070 --> 00:27:03.080
  • So they said, for our religious freedom,
  • 00:27:03.080 --> 00:27:04.270
  • for not being persecuted, we'll do that.
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  • So they get here, but the Virginia Colony over in England
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  • is not doing as well as it needs to
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  • and they've got all this war now, people are dyin',
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  • and so the Pilgrims renegotiate that contract and said,
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  • we'll just buy off everything that we have left to pay you,
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  • and it came as a good deal for the Pilgrims.
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  • So now the Pilgrims are free
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  • from owin' anything to anyone else.
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  • They now have their own debt.
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  • It's kinda like you get your own mortgage in your own hands.
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  • And so at this point, they start getting
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  • into free market enterprise.
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  • They start building things like this
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  • where they can trade with the Dutch,
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  • they can trade with the Wampanoags,
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  • they've got furs they can trade
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  • and they've got all sorts of stuff
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  • and they can start making income
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  • that goes into their pockets,
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  • not into the pockets of those back home.
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  • So this is the first, literally, the first business
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  • that what you make doesn't go to the king.
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  • You get to keep what you make.
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  • - Yeah, in other words private.
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  • And again kind of a novel concept
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  • because every other colony at that point in America, right,
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  • in the new world, you had to give what you made
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  • to company that sponsored you, to the king,
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  • you didn't own stuff.
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  • And so this is the first someone
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  • is actually owning something.
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  • And then the Pilgrims were really amazing.
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  • So the Pilgrims actually almost like franchise this idea
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  • and they start building other trading post
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  • where they're now becoming very profitable,
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  • and actually were pretty much the most profitable colony
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  • per capita of all of the English colonies.
  • 00:28:23.180 --> 00:28:26.020
  • - And by the way, that concept of franchising this,
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  • that couldn't have been done under the king
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  • because if Great Britain's at war with Spain
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  • you can't untrade with any Spaniards or war with France.
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  • These guys could choose who they wanted to trade with.
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  • And they could do things no other colony was doing
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  • so not only can they be profitable, as you said,
  • 00:28:40.150 --> 00:28:42.280
  • they franchise it and they're expanding this out.
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  • - Not only do we have people working for themselves,
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  • we have people being able to enjoy all of the profit
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  • from what they are doing in grand.
  • 00:28:50.220 --> 00:28:52.050
  • I mean, you mentioned, it's kinda like a mortgage,
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  • they're paying off that final debt.
  • 00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:54.270
  • But now they're the ones in charge of what they are doing
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  • and so they actually do become very successful doing this.
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  • And this really is the birth of the free enterprise
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  • of capitalism in America is right here in this trading post.
  • 00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:08.160
  • - There are so many first that go back to the Pilgrims.
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  • And, yes, we celebrate Thanksgiving,
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  • we remember the Pilgrims in Thanksgiving,
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  • but very rarely do we sit out in Thanksgiving and say,
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  • I am so grateful for the Pilgrims
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  • because of the free enterprise system.
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  • That that's another first that we can look to the Pilgrims
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  • and say, thank you, thank you for implementing
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  • those principles and changing all of the nation
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  • including our lives today.
  • 00:29:29.130 --> 00:29:30.290
  • - I would really say, this is probably just one more aspect
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  • of America's hidden history.
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  • - So we're lookin' at Thanksgiving.
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  • And here we are in Plymouth, the home of the Pilgrims.
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  • And the Pilgrims actually came to this harbor behind us
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  • and then came ashore.
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  • And once they get ashore, they wanted to build a town
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  • and so as they did they created a street in that town.
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  • And at the end of the street is where
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  • we're standin' right now.
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  • This is Burial Hill.
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  • - Yeah, there's actually a lot of people
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  • buried on this hill from the Pilgrims.
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  • In fact, a lot of names we might even recognize.
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  • Certainly, the name Governor William Bradford.
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  • We'd recognize that name.
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  • Well, he's buried just behind us.
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  • There's a big marker honoring him, recognizing him.
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  • There's people like Elder William Brewster,
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  • who was the leader of the church for the Pilgrims,
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  • and he and his family are buried here.
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  • - But as you can see, this is the elevated location.
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  • So this is also the hill on which they built their fort.
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  • It's a great position to be able to see
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  • what's going on around them.
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  • And inside that fort is where they
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  • really met for the first church.
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  • So here on this hill, there's a lot of historic aspects
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  • of the Pilgrims.
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  • So after the Pilgrims landed there in the harbor
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  • and they came ashore there at Plymouth Rock,
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  • they needed a place to live and they started walkin' up
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  • toward the hill there.
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  • And as they walked up toward the hill
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  • which we now call Burial Hill,
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  • they built a street, they laid this out
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  • and this is where they started building their first houses.
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  • Now Leyden Street is called that today
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  • because Leyden is the place in Holland
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  • that welcomed them and gave them religious liberty.
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  • But they called it First Street or maybe Main Street.
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  • So this is the longest and continually
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  • used street in America.
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  • This street was built in 1620.
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  • They built this before Christmas of 1620
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  • and has been in constant use now for nearly four centuries.
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  • The oldest street, and used, in America
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  • was the street built by the Pilgrims.
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  • - So we're in the end of Leyden Street,
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  • actually at the end of the street,
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  • is the base of Burial Hill
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  • and that's where the first fort was,
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  • it's actually where the Pilgrims' first church was.
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  • And we're standing in front of a church right now
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  • that has its roots all the way to the Pilgrims of 1620.
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  • This church was built in 1899,
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  • so a few years after the Pilgrims,
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  • but the congregation actually, the foundation,
  • 00:32:10.120 --> 00:32:13.040
  • their roots, go all the way back to the Pilgrims.
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  • - Yeah, this has been a continuous congregation since 1620.
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  • And what the Pilgrims did in their congregation
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  • was they really got church and state right,
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  • because if you remember back in Europe
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  • church and state were the same thing,
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  • whoever the civil leader was, was the spiritual leader
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  • and whatever the king or queen said
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  • that's what we're gonna do for theology.
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  • When they got here, they said, not us.
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  • They elected their civil leaders
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  • differently from their church leaders.
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  • So they elected John Carver as their governor.
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  • He's their civil leader, but they elect
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  • their spiritual leaders as well.
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  • By the way, they were into accountability.
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  • They had civil elections every single year.
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  • They wanted to make sure their church leaders
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  • and their state leaders were accountable to them.
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  • And so what they did was they separated the two
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  • and made sure government could not run the church
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  • or tell church people what they could and couldn't do.
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  • - Well, they also never believed in the idea
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  • of government being secular either.
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  • The Pilgrims were incredibly religious.
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  • In fact, their governor was in church
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  • with them every Sunday.
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  • So it was never an idea to wean the secularized government,
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  • it just recognized that government has a role,
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  • and the role of government is not to
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  • run the spiritual duties and tell Christians
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  • what they can and can't do
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  • and where they have to go to church
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  • and the things that they're not allowed
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  • to talk about a religion.
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  • The same way, the religious leaders
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  • weren't telling the government,
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  • well, these are exactly the policies you have to have
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  • and if people don't come to our church you put them in jail.
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  • Although they were separate institutions
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  • but they never believed in it being secular.
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  • - That was the right way to do separation
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  • in church and state.
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  • - The Pilgrims were so driven, motivated by their faith
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  • in everything they did.
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  • And we've talked about that they remembered and thank God
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  • and then they had times of prayer,
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  • it shaped their economic system.
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  • What about government?
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  • 'Cause we often hear that the Pilgrims
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  • they would hold elections every year.
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  • And so did faith shaped the way they viewed government?
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  • - Absolutely.
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  • For example, our governor was William Bradford,
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  • who was the preacher here, William Brewster.
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  • William Brewster raised William Bradford.
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  • Theologically, they were exactly the same.
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  • But not one of them could hold both jobs at the same time.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - So it doesn't mean you remove religion.
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  • You can't. - Right.
  • 00:34:13.080 --> 00:34:14.110
  • - If you remove Christianity, for example,
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  • there's gonna be another religion.
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  • - Sure. - And so you can't do that.
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  • - Sure.
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  • - So religion stayed in it.
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  • And I like to tell people, we are a Christian nation
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  • based on Christian principles, it does not mean
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  • you have to be a Christian to reap
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  • the benefits of that society. - Sure.
  • 00:34:32.060 --> 00:34:34.140
  • - All it means is that because we have Christian law,
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  • biblical law, everybody is equal under that law.
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  • - Right. - Now if you don't want
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  • biblical law and you want me to set the law,
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  • we got a problem. - Sure.
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  • - 'Cause I'll set it today and next week
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  • I'll change it in my favor.
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  • Without that biblical law, without that truth,
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  • without that constant, you cannot have a civil government.
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  • - We're here at the base of Leyden Street,
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  • actually the harbor is just right there,
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  • and I'm here with Mike Scibilio,
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  • who is, I guess, somebody that works
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  • with the Leyden Historical Preservation Society.
  • 00:35:13.230 --> 00:35:16.080
  • - Yeah. - And so behind us
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  • is a pretty significant location for a house.
  • 00:35:18.250 --> 00:35:21.080
  • So explain what is this house behind us.
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  • - This is the first house of the United States of America.
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  • It's a nationally listed house
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  • and it sounds a great history.
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  • - So when the Pilgrims get here
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  • and they have to build a place to live to survive,
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  • this is the first location where they built?
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  • - Yeah, first foundation right here.
  • 00:35:35.250 --> 00:35:37.060
  • This is where the peace treaty
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  • with the Wampanoags was signed.
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  • This is where William Bradford and his crew of 51
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  • who survived the first winter would come back and forth
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  • between the Mayflower at first
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  • when they were first building it.
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  • It's where the Mayflower Compact was stored
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  • and it's really cool.
  • 00:35:52.270 --> 00:35:53.250
  • - So this is huge historically.
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  • Okay, so what all happened in this house?
  • 00:35:55.210 --> 00:35:58.180
  • - Ultimately, this is where government was established.
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  • The peace treaty with the Native Americans was signed here.
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  • - Okay, now wait a second.
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  • So peace treaty, like I understand peace treaty
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  • but, generally, we don't think back early American
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  • there being a peace treaty.
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  • So the Pilgrims had a peace treaty
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  • with the Indians-- - Yeah.
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  • - What was that for, what was it about?
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  • Because, I mean, they didn't really have war
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  • with the Wampanoags, did they?
  • 00:36:18.120 --> 00:36:19.170
  • - It was a very peaceful relationship
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  • that they had with the Wampanoags.
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  • And through the desire to spread the Gospel,
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  • which is ultimately at the heart of Bradford
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  • and most of these Pilgrims, it was really all about
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  • loving them and learning how to operate together in society
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  • with different backgrounds, different understandings
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  • but ultimately about peace.
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  • And it's the longest-lasting peace treaty.
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  • - Because we often hear about the terrible relations
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  • between the Anglos and the Indians,
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  • but the Pilgrims are totally different.
  • 00:36:41.110 --> 00:36:43.000
  • The Pilgrims, and I would argue, like largely
  • 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:44.260
  • 'cause of their Christian faith,
  • 00:36:44.260 --> 00:36:45.210
  • right? - Right, right.
  • 00:36:45.210 --> 00:36:46.190
  • - Because it was the morals
  • 00:36:46.190 --> 00:36:47.220
  • that drove them-- - Right.
  • 00:36:47.220 --> 00:36:48.160
  • - To do what they did.
  • 00:36:48.160 --> 00:36:49.220
  • But because they respected humanity--
  • 00:36:49.220 --> 00:36:52.130
  • - Right.
  • 00:36:52.130 --> 00:36:53.200
  • - Individuals, and so the Pilgrims
  • 00:36:53.200 --> 00:36:55.070
  • were just so good on issues whether it be
  • 00:36:55.070 --> 00:36:57.070
  • the civil rights to the race relations
  • 00:36:57.070 --> 00:36:58.190
  • but especially with the Indians and it's pretty awesome.
  • 00:36:58.190 --> 00:37:00.260
  • So speaking of their faith--
  • 00:37:00.260 --> 00:37:02.080
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:37:02.080 --> 00:37:03.150
  • - So I know they would do sometimes
  • 00:37:03.150 --> 00:37:04.220
  • prayer meetings or Bible studies,
  • 00:37:04.220 --> 00:37:05.290
  • did that happen in this house too?
  • 00:37:05.290 --> 00:37:06.270
  • - Yeah, so, yeah, this is where
  • 00:37:06.270 --> 00:37:08.030
  • the first prayer meeting in America started.
  • 00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:09.240
  • This is where the Pilgrims gathered together
  • 00:37:09.240 --> 00:37:12.210
  • and prayed for us today here in America.
  • 00:37:12.210 --> 00:37:15.050
  • - For the future generation. - Future generation.
  • 00:37:15.050 --> 00:37:16.190
  • - I mean it really is amazing
  • 00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:17.260
  • looking at the faith of the Pilgrims
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  • which today so few Americans understand.
  • 00:37:19.180 --> 00:37:21.170
  • I mean we kinda talked about the first Thanksgiving
  • 00:37:21.170 --> 00:37:24.020
  • and, but now people are thinking,
  • 00:37:24.020 --> 00:37:25.220
  • will they think the Indians? - Right.
  • 00:37:25.220 --> 00:37:28.000
  • - It's like, I mean, they probably were grateful
  • 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:29.060
  • to the Indians for helping them--
  • 00:37:29.060 --> 00:37:30.210
  • - Sure.
  • 00:37:30.210 --> 00:37:32.020
  • - But they were so religious and God-conscious,
  • 00:37:32.020 --> 00:37:34.090
  • but it's also like this is where so much of Christianity
  • 00:37:34.090 --> 00:37:37.090
  • in America was birthed.
  • 00:37:37.090 --> 00:37:38.240
  • - It's incredible that we stand on their prayers today
  • 00:37:38.240 --> 00:37:40.170
  • and live in freedom.
  • 00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:41.210
  • And it's unfortunate, like you said,
  • 00:37:41.210 --> 00:37:43.070
  • we take it for granted sometimes
  • 00:37:43.070 --> 00:37:45.050
  • and ultimately the history is being lost.
  • 00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:49.060
  • That's why I'm so grateful for guys like you and your father
  • 00:37:49.060 --> 00:37:51.060
  • that are trying to preserve that remnant
  • 00:37:51.060 --> 00:37:53.270
  • of the history here.
  • 00:37:53.270 --> 00:37:55.020
  • - Well, so speaking of the history
  • 00:37:55.020 --> 00:37:56.170
  • as being kind of forgotten, they also were really good
  • 00:37:56.170 --> 00:37:58.270
  • on electing leaders and then really
  • 00:37:58.270 --> 00:38:01.040
  • it's kind of one of the things they did well,
  • 00:38:01.040 --> 00:38:02.130
  • is separating their government leaders
  • 00:38:02.130 --> 00:38:04.100
  • and their church leaders. - Yeah.
  • 00:38:04.100 --> 00:38:05.240
  • - But they had elections fairly off like every year, right,
  • 00:38:05.240 --> 00:38:08.050
  • they had elections.
  • 00:38:08.050 --> 00:38:09.110
  • - We're all familiar with elections.
  • 00:38:09.110 --> 00:38:10.180
  • Yeah, this is where the first election
  • 00:38:10.180 --> 00:38:11.240
  • would've been held right here behind us and--
  • 00:38:11.240 --> 00:38:14.030
  • - So this is the government building,
  • 00:38:14.030 --> 00:38:15.120
  • this is the church meeting house--
  • 00:38:15.120 --> 00:38:17.040
  • - Church meeting, everything, yeah.
  • 00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:18.120
  • - So they've signed peace treaties here.
  • 00:38:18.120 --> 00:38:19.270
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:38:19.270 --> 00:38:21.050
  • - So this is the place where it all started--
  • 00:38:21.050 --> 00:38:22.240
  • - Yes, this is it. - When it comes
  • 00:38:22.240 --> 00:38:23.200
  • to Pilgrim history.
  • 00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:24.150
  • - This is it right here.
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  • (questing music)
  • 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.210
  • - Massasoit is the gentleman that signed
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  • the peace treaty with the Indians.
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  • Massasoit is the chief of the Wampanoag.
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  • And he was our friend.
  • 00:38:34.150 --> 00:38:36.000
  • Without him signing it, we wouldn't have survived.
  • 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.170
  • But three years into that peace treaty,
  • 00:38:37.170 --> 00:38:39.250
  • Massasoit was at his camp in Rhode Island,
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  • the man had the plague and was dying.
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  • A gentleman from Plymouth by the name of Edward Winslow
  • 00:38:43.240 --> 00:38:46.050
  • puts some herbs together and Ed Winslow
  • 00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:48.130
  • walked to Rhode Island to nurse Massasoit back to health.
  • 00:38:48.130 --> 00:38:51.110
  • - That's a long walk from here.
  • 00:38:51.110 --> 00:38:52.140
  • - 40 miles. - Wow.
  • 00:38:52.140 --> 00:38:54.150
  • - Halfway there, he was met on the path by an Indian
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  • who told him not to bother finishing the trip.
  • 00:38:56.150 --> 00:38:59.060
  • Massasoit died.
  • 00:38:59.060 --> 00:39:00.200
  • He finished the trip anyway and discovered
  • 00:39:00.200 --> 00:39:02.130
  • Massasoit had not yet died, he was very close,
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  • and Ed Winslow nursed him back to health.
  • 00:39:05.160 --> 00:39:07.250
  • - Wow.
  • 00:39:07.250 --> 00:39:09.030
  • - From that day forward, they were great friends
  • 00:39:09.030 --> 00:39:10.090
  • and that peace treaty was even stronger.
  • 00:39:10.090 --> 00:39:11.250
  • - And bet it was.
  • 00:39:11.250 --> 00:39:12.250
  • - Now we'll move ahead 50 years.
  • 00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:14.130
  • 50 years later, we had the King Phillip War.
  • 00:39:14.130 --> 00:39:17.120
  • King Phillip was not a European, he was Massasoit's son.
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  • His Christian name was Philip.
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  • He went to negotiate not to go to war
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  • with then governor of Plymouth Josiah Winslow,
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  • Edward Winslow's son.
  • 00:39:28.120 --> 00:39:30.060
  • While they're negotiating, Philip says to Winslow,
  • 00:39:30.060 --> 00:39:32.080
  • hey says, hey, I'm a chief, you're just a governor.
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  • I'm not gonna talk to you, I'll only talk to kings.
  • 00:39:35.230 --> 00:39:38.280
  • They broke off the negotiation and went to war.
  • 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.110
  • - Wow. - From that day forward,
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  • Philip was referred to as King Philip
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  • because he would only talk to kings.
  • 00:39:44.190 --> 00:39:47.070
  • And two men who became great friends,
  • 00:39:47.070 --> 00:39:49.200
  • their two sons went to war a generation later.
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  • We didn't pass that biblical education to that generation
  • 00:39:53.020 --> 00:39:56.260
  • and it skipped.
  • 00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:58.190
  • What was the result?
  • 00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:00.020
  • The largest percentage of population was killed
  • 00:40:00.020 --> 00:40:02.030
  • in the King Philip War than any war
  • 00:40:02.030 --> 00:40:03.280
  • in our country's history.
  • 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:05.220
  • And it could've been stopped.
  • 00:40:05.220 --> 00:40:07.180
  • That's how important Christian education is.
  • 00:40:07.180 --> 00:40:09.230
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:40:09.230 --> 00:40:11.080
  • - Without passing it from generation to generation
  • 00:40:11.080 --> 00:40:13.060
  • we got a problem. - Yeah.
  • 00:40:13.060 --> 00:40:15.050
  • (dramatic music)
  • 00:40:15.050 --> 00:40:17.280
  • (questing music)
  • 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.220
  • - So right over here beside me this is Leyden Street,
  • 00:40:36.270 --> 00:40:39.280
  • and this behind me is the Leyden Street House.
  • 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:42.120
  • And in the front yard where I'm standing right now
  • 00:40:42.120 --> 00:40:44.210
  • is where they held the very first
  • 00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:47.060
  • Thanksgiving with the Pilgrims.
  • 00:40:47.060 --> 00:40:49.000
  • When we celebrate Thanksgiving today,
  • 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:50.260
  • it goes back to what happened right here.
  • 00:40:50.260 --> 00:40:53.050
  • Now I'm not 100 feet from the edge of the shore there
  • 00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:55.120
  • so we're right on the edge of the harbor.
  • 00:40:55.120 --> 00:40:57.170
  • And that first Thanksgiving, actually we celebrate it
  • 00:40:57.170 --> 00:41:00.150
  • as a national holiday which is great, we should,
  • 00:41:00.150 --> 00:41:02.250
  • but this really wasn't the first Thanksgiving in America.
  • 00:41:02.250 --> 00:41:05.070
  • I mean we had one in Palo Duro Canyon in Texas
  • 00:41:05.070 --> 00:41:07.140
  • back in the 1540s, in the 1560s we had one over in Florida,
  • 00:41:07.140 --> 00:41:11.090
  • and 1607 we had Cape Henry in Virginia 1619,
  • 00:41:11.090 --> 00:41:14.240
  • we had one in Berkeley Plantation, Virginia.
  • 00:41:14.240 --> 00:41:17.020
  • So how come we choose this one if it's not the first?
  • 00:41:17.020 --> 00:41:20.030
  • Because this one is the first one
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  • that looks like what we celebrate today.
  • 00:41:21.240 --> 00:41:23.240
  • The others were times of prayer,
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  • we thank God that we got to cross the ocean safely
  • 00:41:25.100 --> 00:41:27.160
  • or we're here to dedicate this land or whatever.
  • 00:41:27.160 --> 00:41:29.220
  • This one, there were 51 Pilgrims
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  • with 90 Wampanoag Indian braves,
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  • and not only did they eat together,
  • 00:41:36.030 --> 00:41:38.100
  • they also had athletic competition together.
  • 00:41:38.100 --> 00:41:41.030
  • So three days of feasting, they had wrestling
  • 00:41:41.030 --> 00:41:43.250
  • and they had running matches and they had shooting matches
  • 00:41:43.250 --> 00:41:46.060
  • and they had lots and lots of food
  • 00:41:46.060 --> 00:41:48.060
  • and they had lots of thanking God as well.
  • 00:41:48.060 --> 00:41:50.280
  • So when you look at this, this Thanksgiving has,
  • 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.260
  • okay, we have a time to thank God,
  • 00:41:53.260 --> 00:41:56.140
  • we have a time to sit down and eat and enjoy our friends,
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  • we have athletic competition which is kinda
  • 00:42:00.100 --> 00:42:02.140
  • what we do in Thanksgiving today,
  • 00:42:02.140 --> 00:42:03.230
  • we watch football games and some sporting events
  • 00:42:03.230 --> 00:42:06.000
  • or we have all these food that we're bringing together,
  • 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.020
  • the whole, that's why we go to this Thanksgiving here.
  • 00:42:08.020 --> 00:42:11.000
  • What happened right there is what's
  • 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:12.260
  • at the national precedent.
  • 00:42:12.260 --> 00:42:14.150
  • And while we've had periodic Thanksgivings
  • 00:42:14.150 --> 00:42:16.090
  • across American history, it was Abraham Lincoln
  • 00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:18.220
  • who really got established as the last Thursday in November.
  • 00:42:18.220 --> 00:42:23.000
  • So when we think about our Thanksgiving holiday,
  • 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.140
  • it was in this yard right here in front of this house
  • 00:42:25.140 --> 00:42:30.020
  • that we had that famous Thanksgiving.
  • 00:42:30.020 --> 00:42:32.040
  • (questing music)
  • 00:42:33.030 --> 00:42:35.250
  • - So Chief Massasoit, wasn't he the chief
  • 00:42:42.180 --> 00:42:45.060
  • on the first Thanksgiving who was there with all the braves?
  • 00:42:45.060 --> 00:42:48.010
  • - Yes.
  • 00:42:48.010 --> 00:42:49.130
  • Because Massasoit was so instrumental in their survival,
  • 00:42:49.130 --> 00:42:51.170
  • they thought, we should invite Massasoit
  • 00:42:51.170 --> 00:42:53.210
  • as immediate family to the celebration, and they did.
  • 00:42:53.210 --> 00:42:56.150
  • Now keep in mind, when we came here,
  • 00:42:56.150 --> 00:42:57.280
  • why are we so close with the Indians?
  • 00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.280
  • Because the Pilgrims, being a product of the Reformation
  • 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:03.110
  • and studying to read the Bible,
  • 00:43:03.110 --> 00:43:05.120
  • came across a few things they couldn't deny.
  • 00:43:05.120 --> 00:43:07.030
  • For example, John Robinson's readin' the Bible
  • 00:43:07.030 --> 00:43:09.010
  • and he came across a little passage called
  • 00:43:09.010 --> 00:43:10.170
  • the Dominion charter.
  • 00:43:10.170 --> 00:43:12.050
  • We're to take dominion over the earth,
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  • over the animals, fish, birds,
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  • things that creep and crawl,
  • 00:43:15.260 --> 00:43:17.010
  • but he also read this, not each other.
  • 00:43:17.010 --> 00:43:19.240
  • See, he read, we're all made in the image of God.
  • 00:43:19.240 --> 00:43:21.260
  • - Right.
  • 00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:23.030
  • - Well, his thinking was, if we're all made
  • 00:43:23.030 --> 00:43:24.210
  • in the image of God, then no human being
  • 00:43:24.210 --> 00:43:27.110
  • has the right to be above another human being
  • 00:43:27.110 --> 00:43:29.130
  • without their consent.
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  • Self-rules of biblical principle.
  • 00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:32.000
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:33.140
  • - You cannot have a civil government, self-rule,
  • 00:43:33.140 --> 00:43:34.160
  • without biblical law.
  • 00:43:34.160 --> 00:43:36.060
  • So what did we just do?
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  • How come we come here and everybody's equal
  • 00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:41.020
  • in the sight of God and leave out the Indians?
  • 00:43:41.020 --> 00:43:43.180
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:43:43.180 --> 00:43:44.250
  • - They are just as equal as we are
  • 00:43:44.250 --> 00:43:46.150
  • and that why we started having that respect,
  • 00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:48.030
  • that's why we started signing the peace treaty
  • 00:43:48.030 --> 00:43:50.060
  • and that's where everybody was equal under the law.
  • 00:43:50.060 --> 00:43:52.130
  • - Well, Leo, it does make me wonder,
  • 00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:54.220
  • as we study the Pilgrims, and even if you read
  • 00:43:54.220 --> 00:43:57.100
  • Governor Bradford's writings, you can't escape the fact
  • 00:43:57.100 --> 00:44:00.270
  • that they were people of faith,
  • 00:44:00.270 --> 00:44:02.230
  • and yet today people try to tell the story
  • 00:44:02.230 --> 00:44:04.270
  • of the Pilgrims without faith, without God.
  • 00:44:04.270 --> 00:44:07.140
  • How can you come to the place
  • 00:44:07.140 --> 00:44:09.020
  • where you see the Pilgrims without faith?
  • 00:44:09.020 --> 00:44:11.090
  • - It's simple.
  • 00:44:13.120 --> 00:44:14.060
  • You revise the story.
  • 00:44:14.060 --> 00:44:15.130
  • I'm just telling you a true story.
  • 00:44:15.130 --> 00:44:16.200
  • I'm telling you the facts. - Yeah.
  • 00:44:16.200 --> 00:44:18.050
  • - You don't have to agree with them or be a Christian,
  • 00:44:18.050 --> 00:44:20.220
  • you don't have to.
  • 00:44:20.220 --> 00:44:22.070
  • But I'm just telling you why they did what they did
  • 00:44:22.070 --> 00:44:23.180
  • and they did it because of their faith.
  • 00:44:23.180 --> 00:44:25.240
  • - And the Pilgrims came looking for a place
  • 00:44:25.240 --> 00:44:28.090
  • to raise a family with civil freedom
  • 00:44:28.090 --> 00:44:30.110
  • and religious freedom, of course.
  • 00:44:30.110 --> 00:44:32.020
  • And certainly as we study history,
  • 00:44:32.020 --> 00:44:33.250
  • there's really no way to understand the Pilgrims
  • 00:44:33.250 --> 00:44:36.080
  • without understanding the motivations
  • 00:44:36.080 --> 00:44:37.250
  • because of their faith.
  • 00:44:37.250 --> 00:44:39.080
  • - Exactly.
  • 00:44:39.080 --> 00:44:40.160
  • - Leo, thank you so much for taking time
  • 00:44:40.160 --> 00:44:41.250
  • to share these stories.
  • 00:44:41.250 --> 00:44:43.090
  • This is history that most people just don't hear
  • 00:44:43.090 --> 00:44:46.060
  • and nobody tells it better than you do
  • 00:44:46.060 --> 00:44:48.000
  • so we appreciate you taking time to do this.
  • 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.000
  • - Thank you very much.
  • 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:51.030
  • I appreciate your time. - Absolutely.
  • 00:44:51.030 --> 00:44:52.060
  • There's so much more to America.
  • 00:44:52.060 --> 00:44:53.140
  • And this is why we're digging in
  • 00:44:53.140 --> 00:44:55.070
  • to America's hidden history.
  • 00:44:55.070 --> 00:44:57.050
  • (dramatic music)
  • 00:44:57.050 --> 00:44:59.280
  • (questing music)
  • 00:45:02.040 --> 00:45:04.270
  • - In looking at the Pilgrims and Thanksgiving,
  • 00:45:12.090 --> 00:45:13.240
  • we're in the Howland House.
  • 00:45:13.240 --> 00:45:15.100
  • Now as you look at the 102 folks that came over
  • 00:45:15.100 --> 00:45:18.080
  • on the Mayflower, the Pilgrims,
  • 00:45:18.080 --> 00:45:20.020
  • one of them was a young man named John Howland.
  • 00:45:20.020 --> 00:45:22.150
  • John Howland was an indentured servant to Governor Carver.
  • 00:45:22.150 --> 00:45:26.010
  • And now indentured servant basically meant
  • 00:45:26.010 --> 00:45:28.010
  • that Governor Carver is gonna pay for your way over
  • 00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:30.020
  • but you're gonna have to give him
  • 00:45:30.020 --> 00:45:31.090
  • some time to pay off what you did.
  • 00:45:31.090 --> 00:45:32.210
  • So it doesn't necessarily cost you upfront,
  • 00:45:32.210 --> 00:45:34.160
  • but you're gonna have to give time to him.
  • 00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:36.030
  • So John Howland comes over,
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  • also on the voyage among the 102 was the Tilley family.
  • 00:45:37.240 --> 00:45:41.010
  • And the Tilley family had a young daughter Elizabeth,
  • 00:45:41.010 --> 00:45:43.250
  • she was 13 years old.
  • 00:45:43.250 --> 00:45:45.190
  • Well, after they get here, the Tilley's,
  • 00:45:45.190 --> 00:45:48.000
  • Elizabeth survives and John Howland survives
  • 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.080
  • the first winter but Governor Carver
  • 00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:51.170
  • doesn't survive the first winter.
  • 00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:53.150
  • But now three years after they've been here,
  • 00:45:53.150 --> 00:45:56.140
  • John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley get married,
  • 00:45:56.140 --> 00:45:58.270
  • and from that marriage they have 10 children.
  • 00:45:58.270 --> 00:46:02.110
  • And the eighth of their 10 children is Jabez,
  • 00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:05.190
  • and this is the home in which Jabez lived.
  • 00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:07.270
  • He bought this in 1670.
  • 00:46:07.270 --> 00:46:10.050
  • So he's the son of one of the Pilgrim couples.
  • 00:46:10.050 --> 00:46:13.170
  • And this is the home in which,
  • 00:46:13.170 --> 00:46:14.230
  • do you really believe that John Howland
  • 00:46:14.230 --> 00:46:17.040
  • actually died in this home, but John Howland himself
  • 00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:20.160
  • is an interesting story.
  • 00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:22.040
  • As they were coming over on the voyage,
  • 00:46:22.040 --> 00:46:24.040
  • they were in a ship, and they had some rough weather,
  • 00:46:24.040 --> 00:46:26.120
  • I mean they had the adverse weather
  • 00:46:26.120 --> 00:46:28.030
  • comin' across several occasions,
  • 00:46:28.030 --> 00:46:30.020
  • but on this particular occasion
  • 00:46:30.020 --> 00:46:31.230
  • there were 102 Pilgrims down in the hold
  • 00:46:31.230 --> 00:46:35.090
  • 'cause of the bad weather up top,
  • 00:46:35.090 --> 00:46:36.160
  • there's 30 guys in the crew,
  • 00:46:36.160 --> 00:46:38.030
  • so essentially you got most people under deck
  • 00:46:38.030 --> 00:46:40.150
  • and John, for whatever reason decides
  • 00:46:40.150 --> 00:46:42.170
  • he needs a little fresh air.
  • 00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:44.010
  • So he comes up on deck and there's a storm that's raging
  • 00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:46.290
  • and gets washed overboard, gets knocked off the ship.
  • 00:46:46.290 --> 00:46:49.150
  • Now a ship like that it's not like you got lifeboats
  • 00:46:49.150 --> 00:46:52.050
  • you're gonna throw out and go after
  • 00:46:52.050 --> 00:46:53.140
  • and you're gonna stop in the middle of the water
  • 00:46:53.140 --> 00:46:55.040
  • and turn around, you don't do that.
  • 00:46:55.040 --> 00:46:57.000
  • So they would have actually ropes
  • 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.000
  • that they left trailin' off behind the ship
  • 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:00.250
  • in case somebody fell over.
  • 00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:02.030
  • If you catch the rope, fine, maybe you live.
  • 00:47:02.030 --> 00:47:04.040
  • If you don't, you're gone.
  • 00:47:04.040 --> 00:47:05.290
  • He got one of those ropes and he got
  • 00:47:05.290 --> 00:47:07.120
  • dragged around for a while, submerged in and out
  • 00:47:07.120 --> 00:47:10.030
  • according to the counts.
  • 00:47:10.030 --> 00:47:11.110
  • And so they finally get him back on deck
  • 00:47:11.110 --> 00:47:13.110
  • which saves his life, he comes here and he has the family.
  • 00:47:13.110 --> 00:47:16.290
  • But had he lost his life, now this is the value of one life.
  • 00:47:16.290 --> 00:47:20.030
  • There's tens and thousands of people
  • 00:47:20.030 --> 00:47:21.180
  • that would not exist at all in history.
  • 00:47:21.180 --> 00:47:24.100
  • I mean of all the Pilgrim families,
  • 00:47:24.100 --> 00:47:27.020
  • the two families that have the most descendants
  • 00:47:27.020 --> 00:47:29.150
  • are the Howland family and the Alden family.
  • 00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:32.230
  • So there's thousands and thousands
  • 00:47:32.230 --> 00:47:35.100
  • that would not have lived had it not been
  • 00:47:35.100 --> 00:47:37.250
  • the fact that John Howland was able to get back onboard.
  • 00:47:37.250 --> 00:47:40.250
  • His life was saved.
  • 00:47:40.250 --> 00:47:42.000
  • And by the way, among the descendants
  • 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.070
  • that would not be here is Nathaniel Gorham,
  • 00:47:44.070 --> 00:47:46.160
  • who's a founding father, he's a signer of the Constitution,
  • 00:47:46.160 --> 00:47:49.140
  • a leader in Massachusetts, he's the head
  • 00:47:49.140 --> 00:47:51.140
  • of Continental Congress.
  • 00:47:51.140 --> 00:47:52.260
  • You also have three presidents.
  • 00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:54.130
  • President Franklin Roosevelt is a descendant of John Howland
  • 00:47:54.130 --> 00:47:58.010
  • as is President George H. W. Bush
  • 00:47:58.010 --> 00:48:01.060
  • as is President George W. Bush.
  • 00:48:01.060 --> 00:48:03.150
  • So imagine the difference in the entire nation
  • 00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:06.020
  • from the founding fathers through modern times
  • 00:48:06.020 --> 00:48:08.140
  • had John Howland not lived.
  • 00:48:08.140 --> 00:48:11.020
  • So that's the significance even of one life.
  • 00:48:11.020 --> 00:48:13.270
  • It's just another good reminder that there are real people
  • 00:48:13.270 --> 00:48:17.010
  • involved in these stories.
  • 00:48:17.010 --> 00:48:18.150
  • We hear about the stories, but seeing people like
  • 00:48:18.150 --> 00:48:20.120
  • John Howland makes history come alive.
  • 00:48:20.120 --> 00:48:23.060
  • (dramatic music)
  • 00:48:23.060 --> 00:48:25.290
  • (questing music)
  • 00:48:33.140 --> 00:48:36.060
  • - So behind us is a monument.
  • 00:48:44.180 --> 00:48:46.090
  • In fact, the largest granite monument
  • 00:48:46.090 --> 00:48:48.170
  • in the US from a single piece of granite.
  • 00:48:48.170 --> 00:48:50.240
  • It actually is a monument to the Pilgrims.
  • 00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:53.090
  • It's called the Forefathers Monument
  • 00:48:53.090 --> 00:48:55.070
  • or the National Monument to the Forefathers
  • 00:48:55.070 --> 00:48:57.270
  • and it really was to honor the Pilgrims.
  • 00:48:57.270 --> 00:48:59.140
  • - And this is something that,
  • 00:48:59.140 --> 00:49:00.230
  • they started this back on the 200th anniversary
  • 00:49:00.230 --> 00:49:03.150
  • the Pilgrims landed in Plymouth Rock.
  • 00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:05.150
  • So that generation said, these guys are so important to us,
  • 00:49:05.150 --> 00:49:08.190
  • we wanna do somethin' to honor them,
  • 00:49:08.190 --> 00:49:10.100
  • to remember them, to recognize them
  • 00:49:10.100 --> 00:49:11.250
  • and so they started makin' plans for this back in 1820.
  • 00:49:11.250 --> 00:49:16.050
  • It was dedicated in 1889.
  • 00:49:16.050 --> 00:49:18.110
  • But 81 feet high.
  • 00:49:18.110 --> 00:49:19.200
  • I mean what a memorial for the Pilgrims.
  • 00:49:19.200 --> 00:49:22.020
  • - And on this, really the idea was to kinda give
  • 00:49:22.020 --> 00:49:24.130
  • a people picture of who the Pilgrims were.
  • 00:49:24.130 --> 00:49:26.110
  • Everything about the Pilgrims' life
  • 00:49:26.110 --> 00:49:27.150
  • was motivated by their faith.
  • 00:49:27.150 --> 00:49:28.270
  • There's no doubt about it, which is why
  • 00:49:28.270 --> 00:49:30.210
  • in the center of this monument,
  • 00:49:30.210 --> 00:49:32.070
  • the tallest image you see is actually dedicated to faith.
  • 00:49:32.070 --> 00:49:36.100
  • And you see the finger pointed up to God,
  • 00:49:36.100 --> 00:49:39.280
  • a Bible in her hand, actually the Bible's even opened,
  • 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.250
  • it's a Geneva Bible, and the Bible is opened,
  • 00:49:42.250 --> 00:49:45.100
  • the pages look a little worn because of signifying
  • 00:49:45.100 --> 00:49:47.280
  • they actually used the Bible a lot in what they did.
  • 00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.160
  • And then from their faith, there were other things
  • 00:49:51.160 --> 00:49:53.260
  • that they established.
  • 00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:55.050
  • Really again revealing a lot of who they were
  • 00:49:55.050 --> 00:49:57.100
  • and so right below faith on our side is morality,
  • 00:49:57.100 --> 00:50:01.030
  • because certainly of the things we learned
  • 00:50:01.030 --> 00:50:02.220
  • from faith about loving God is also loving people
  • 00:50:02.220 --> 00:50:05.010
  • in the way we treat people.
  • 00:50:05.010 --> 00:50:06.100
  • And the Pilgrims have a pretty good history
  • 00:50:06.100 --> 00:50:09.070
  • of the way they treated people.
  • 00:50:09.070 --> 00:50:10.150
  • In fact, even one of their legacies
  • 00:50:10.150 --> 00:50:12.000
  • is relations with the Indians,
  • 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:13.270
  • which nobody had a better relationship with the Indians
  • 00:50:13.270 --> 00:50:16.100
  • in, arguably, American history than the Pilgrims.
  • 00:50:16.100 --> 00:50:19.020
  • - Yeah, the Pilgrims have the longest-lasting treaty
  • 00:50:19.020 --> 00:50:21.280
  • in American history between Anglos and Native Americans.
  • 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.250
  • It was not the Pilgrims who ended the treaty,
  • 00:50:24.250 --> 00:50:27.050
  • it was actually the Native Americans.
  • 00:50:27.050 --> 00:50:28.200
  • So their relationship was good.
  • 00:50:28.200 --> 00:50:30.030
  • And part of that was even though the king
  • 00:50:30.030 --> 00:50:32.080
  • sent them over with what was called a patent,
  • 00:50:32.080 --> 00:50:34.150
  • the king essentially said,
  • 00:50:34.150 --> 00:50:35.290
  • I own all of that land over there, you guys can use my land,
  • 00:50:35.290 --> 00:50:38.210
  • they got here and said, no,
  • 00:50:38.210 --> 00:50:40.040
  • actually the Indians own the land.
  • 00:50:40.040 --> 00:50:42.130
  • And so they actually purchased the land they lived on
  • 00:50:42.130 --> 00:50:45.030
  • from the Indians at the price set by the Indians.
  • 00:50:45.030 --> 00:50:47.210
  • - And that wasn't always normal relations
  • 00:50:47.210 --> 00:50:49.110
  • from Anglos to Indians so this really was special
  • 00:50:49.110 --> 00:50:52.090
  • because there's a lot of places in history you can look
  • 00:50:52.090 --> 00:50:54.160
  • and that's not the way the relationships work
  • 00:50:54.160 --> 00:50:56.200
  • between the Anglos and Indians.
  • 00:50:56.200 --> 00:50:58.040
  • The Pilgrims were very different people,
  • 00:50:58.040 --> 00:51:00.040
  • but their morality was very much shaped by their faith.
  • 00:51:00.040 --> 00:51:03.080
  • - That's right.
  • 00:51:03.080 --> 00:51:04.250
  • - And then also in addition to morality, you have education.
  • 00:51:04.250 --> 00:51:06.070
  • And education certainly is something
  • 00:51:06.070 --> 00:51:08.130
  • they believe the importance of their kids being able to read
  • 00:51:08.130 --> 00:51:11.290
  • so that they would be able to read the Bible
  • 00:51:11.290 --> 00:51:13.180
  • and know what actually was biblically true
  • 00:51:13.180 --> 00:51:15.230
  • and what they should do.
  • 00:51:15.230 --> 00:51:16.230
  • - Yeah, Governor William Bradford
  • 00:51:16.230 --> 00:51:18.080
  • actually pushed education for all the people.
  • 00:51:18.080 --> 00:51:21.050
  • You see, remember, that was the deal with the Reformation:
  • 00:51:21.050 --> 00:51:23.140
  • everyone needs to read the Bible.
  • 00:51:23.140 --> 00:51:25.040
  • And they believe that if you read the Bible,
  • 00:51:25.040 --> 00:51:27.130
  • then your behavior would be moral,
  • 00:51:27.130 --> 00:51:29.040
  • you would do the right things
  • 00:51:29.040 --> 00:51:30.090
  • and also your policies would be right.
  • 00:51:30.090 --> 00:51:32.130
  • They believe that so much in the tyranny that existed,
  • 00:51:32.130 --> 00:51:34.290
  • both civil and religious tyranny came
  • 00:51:34.290 --> 00:51:37.010
  • because people did not know the Bible.
  • 00:51:37.010 --> 00:51:38.160
  • The kings and queens should know it.
  • 00:51:38.160 --> 00:51:40.070
  • They said they were in charge of it.
  • 00:51:40.070 --> 00:51:41.180
  • They weren't livin' by it.
  • 00:51:41.180 --> 00:51:42.250
  • And so they believed that knowin' the Bible
  • 00:51:42.250 --> 00:51:44.160
  • would give you good civil government.
  • 00:51:44.160 --> 00:51:46.170
  • And it's interesting that it's here in Massachusetts
  • 00:51:46.170 --> 00:51:48.240
  • that the first public school law has ever passed.
  • 00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:51.060
  • It's passed in 1647, it's called the old Deluder Satan Law.
  • 00:51:51.060 --> 00:51:55.250
  • It's called that because they said,
  • 00:51:55.250 --> 00:51:57.130
  • Satan wants to keep people from knowing the Scriptures,
  • 00:51:57.130 --> 00:51:59.270
  • and when you do that it's when you get atrocities.
  • 00:51:59.270 --> 00:52:01.200
  • If you know the Scriptures,
  • 00:52:01.200 --> 00:52:02.290
  • you won't have the civil atrocities.
  • 00:52:02.290 --> 00:52:04.210
  • So education was huge to these guys.
  • 00:52:04.210 --> 00:52:07.030
  • - One of the other four sides of the monument
  • 00:52:07.030 --> 00:52:08.190
  • is actually dedicated to law.
  • 00:52:08.190 --> 00:52:10.040
  • Because of the things also the Pilgrims were very good at
  • 00:52:10.040 --> 00:52:13.000
  • was making laws that respected the rights of individuals,
  • 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.160
  • but also even their notion of due process.
  • 00:52:16.160 --> 00:52:20.030
  • So they believed in law, but they didn't believe
  • 00:52:20.030 --> 00:52:22.050
  • in a tyrannical enforcement of law.
  • 00:52:22.050 --> 00:52:24.100
  • They believed in the rights of the individuals.
  • 00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:26.080
  • And so even the way they did trials or court cases
  • 00:52:26.080 --> 00:52:30.090
  • was different than anywhere else in the world.
  • 00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:32.010
  • - Yeah, their whole concept of law was very different
  • 00:52:32.010 --> 00:52:34.020
  • because, I mean they came, and they gave
  • 00:52:34.020 --> 00:52:36.030
  • you a written document right at the start,
  • 00:52:36.030 --> 00:52:38.030
  • the Mayflower Compact.
  • 00:52:38.030 --> 00:52:39.170
  • Do you know to this day the British people
  • 00:52:39.170 --> 00:52:41.240
  • do not have a constitution?
  • 00:52:41.240 --> 00:52:43.040
  • There's not at overall governing document.
  • 00:52:43.040 --> 00:52:45.050
  • Why would they do a governing document?
  • 00:52:45.050 --> 00:52:46.180
  • 'Cause God gave His people written laws,
  • 00:52:46.180 --> 00:52:48.240
  • and when everyone has a written law
  • 00:52:48.240 --> 00:52:50.240
  • then you know what to live by
  • 00:52:50.240 --> 00:52:52.020
  • and both the rules and ruled
  • 00:52:52.020 --> 00:52:54.050
  • everybody has the same standard.
  • 00:52:54.050 --> 00:52:56.010
  • So they were big in the laws, their code of laws
  • 00:52:56.010 --> 00:52:58.030
  • they did within just a few years of bein' here,
  • 00:52:58.030 --> 00:53:00.040
  • they had civil penalties, you had things for burglary
  • 00:53:00.040 --> 00:53:03.150
  • or murder or whatever.
  • 00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:04.280
  • But they quoted the Bible as why it was wrong.
  • 00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:06.290
  • And so the written code of laws,
  • 00:53:06.290 --> 00:53:08.150
  • everyone knew what the code was,
  • 00:53:08.150 --> 00:53:10.000
  • everyone knew it was expected of them,
  • 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.240
  • it brought peace and stability.
  • 00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:13.200
  • This was one of the lowest crime areas
  • 00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:16.110
  • in the entire country.
  • 00:53:16.110 --> 00:53:18.080
  • But then again when you have faith
  • 00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:20.070
  • and from that you teach morality
  • 00:53:20.070 --> 00:53:22.090
  • and then you educate in what the Bible says
  • 00:53:22.090 --> 00:53:24.150
  • and then you conduct criminal just as according to the Bible
  • 00:53:24.150 --> 00:53:27.130
  • you have a very peaceful, very stable society.
  • 00:53:27.130 --> 00:53:30.040
  • - And so the fourth image on the bottom of this
  • 00:53:30.040 --> 00:53:32.180
  • is actually for liberty.
  • 00:53:32.180 --> 00:53:34.090
  • And so one of the things that very much
  • 00:53:34.090 --> 00:53:36.030
  • we believe in the idea of freedom.
  • 00:53:36.030 --> 00:53:38.010
  • In fact, in the Bible, it says that Christ
  • 00:53:38.010 --> 00:53:40.050
  • has set us free, right, it was for freedom
  • 00:53:40.050 --> 00:53:41.290
  • that Christ set us free.
  • 00:53:41.290 --> 00:53:43.130
  • So the idea of liberty was very strong for the Pilgrims,
  • 00:53:43.130 --> 00:53:45.190
  • but the reason they were able to promote liberty
  • 00:53:45.190 --> 00:53:47.130
  • is because they had internal restraint.
  • 00:53:47.130 --> 00:53:49.040
  • - That's right.
  • 00:53:49.040 --> 00:53:50.170
  • - Freedom only works if there's an internal restraint
  • 00:53:50.170 --> 00:53:52.000
  • which comes through morality
  • 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.060
  • which ultimately comes through faith
  • 00:53:53.060 --> 00:53:54.210
  • and certainly educational law it all kinda comes together.
  • 00:53:54.210 --> 00:53:57.030
  • And so this statue, done to honor the Pilgrims,
  • 00:53:57.030 --> 00:54:01.000
  • the largest one in America made out of granite, right?
  • 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:03.090
  • This is a big deal most American's aren't familiar with
  • 00:54:03.090 --> 00:54:06.010
  • or even what it represents for the character
  • 00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:07.290
  • and the legacy of the Pilgrims.
  • 00:54:07.290 --> 00:54:10.060
  • But this is something that certainly
  • 00:54:10.060 --> 00:54:11.120
  • when we study the history of the Pilgrims
  • 00:54:11.120 --> 00:54:13.090
  • their character is the epitome
  • 00:54:13.090 --> 00:54:15.040
  • of what we want Americans to have and follow
  • 00:54:15.040 --> 00:54:17.210
  • and their legacy, certainly the foundation,
  • 00:54:17.210 --> 00:54:20.150
  • for much of what we even still do in America today.
  • 00:54:20.150 --> 00:54:23.050
  • - Yeah, so much of what they did came
  • 00:54:23.050 --> 00:54:24.210
  • because they knew the Bible.
  • 00:54:24.210 --> 00:54:26.070
  • And if you don't know the Bible
  • 00:54:26.070 --> 00:54:27.230
  • you're not gonna have the right morality,
  • 00:54:27.230 --> 00:54:29.150
  • your laws will be oppressive rather than freedom-loving,
  • 00:54:29.150 --> 00:54:32.090
  • you won't have the same liberty
  • 00:54:32.090 --> 00:54:33.200
  • because you'll have an impressive government
  • 00:54:33.200 --> 00:54:35.140
  • and that's what they came from.
  • 00:54:35.140 --> 00:54:36.280
  • And it was their knowledge of the Bible
  • 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:38.160
  • that made all of this possible.
  • 00:54:38.160 --> 00:54:39.240
  • It's their knowledge of the Bible
  • 00:54:39.240 --> 00:54:41.010
  • that they got 'em away from socialism
  • 00:54:41.010 --> 00:54:42.180
  • and got 'em into what we call the free market economy.
  • 00:54:42.180 --> 00:54:44.270
  • It was their knowledge of the Bible
  • 00:54:44.270 --> 00:54:46.040
  • that gave private property protection,
  • 00:54:46.040 --> 00:54:47.220
  • not only for them, but also for the Native Americans.
  • 00:54:47.220 --> 00:54:50.060
  • It was their knowledge of the Bible that caused them
  • 00:54:50.060 --> 00:54:52.130
  • to recognize civil rights.
  • 00:54:52.130 --> 00:54:53.270
  • I mean these guys oppose slavery
  • 00:54:53.270 --> 00:54:55.210
  • because they recognize the Bible's teachings on equality.
  • 00:54:55.210 --> 00:54:58.200
  • God doesn't recognize races.
  • 00:54:58.200 --> 00:55:00.140
  • All men, He's created all men, and they recognize that.
  • 00:55:00.140 --> 00:55:03.140
  • And so their knowledge of the Bible
  • 00:55:03.140 --> 00:55:05.120
  • is what brought such revolutionary changes
  • 00:55:05.120 --> 00:55:08.210
  • to their world at that time.
  • 00:55:08.210 --> 00:55:10.140
  • And this place over here became an example
  • 00:55:10.140 --> 00:55:13.020
  • for all the nations.
  • 00:55:13.020 --> 00:55:14.130
  • In fact, William Bradford talked about how
  • 00:55:14.130 --> 00:55:16.090
  • that what they did here was just one little light,
  • 00:55:16.090 --> 00:55:19.040
  • but that one little light is shown all over the world.
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  • - And this monument was to help American's remember
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  • who the Pilgrims were, what really was all about,
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  • but also the principles that were the foundation
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  • upon which this nation was built.
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  • - So as we look back over what we've seen,
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  • we see that the Pilgrims really sacrificed a lot.
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  • Not only what they went through in England
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  • and then going to Holland, but then getting
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  • from Holland to America, the agreement they had
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  • to make to get here, they had to give up so much
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  • but they were willing to do to preserve
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  • their religious freedom, to have the opportunity
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  • to raise their children in that culture.
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  • We've also seen that they had great relationships
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  • with the Wampanoags, just the Indian tribe and the Pilgrims
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  • is the longest-lasting treaty in American history.
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  • It was a blessing to both of them,
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  • the relationship they had.
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  • We've also seen that there's a lot of things
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  • that we enjoy today that really got started
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  • back at the time of the Pilgrims.
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  • I mean they come here and they give us
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  • a written governing document, they give us written laws
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  • and they also had elections for their
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  • church leaders separate from their state leaders.
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  • They really did church and state the right way.
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  • Good beneficial influence, but you finally don't have
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  • the state established religion where the government
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  • is telling the church what it has to do.
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  • And then you look at what they did with free enterprise
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  • and business and the first really privately owned business
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  • where it's not owned by the king,
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  • and you look at what they did with the concept
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  • of private property and purchasing property
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  • even though they had a deed from the king
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  • they still purchase property just so much wholesome stuff
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  • that the Pilgrims did that have been really good
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  • for the rest of us and that we enjoy their legacy today.
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  • This is part of America's hidden history.
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  • And if you wanna know more about America's Hidden History,
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  • you can go to our website WallBuilders.com,
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  • But we encourage you to stay tuned to TBN
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