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Guests Toure and Sarah Jakes Roberts | From Brokenness to Breakthrough

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March 16, 2018
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Matthew Hagee

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Guests Toure and Sarah Jakes Roberts | From Brokenness to Breakthrough

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  • MUSIC
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  • MATT HAGEE: WELCOME TO
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  • THE DIFFERENCE.
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  • ON TODAY'S SHOW,
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  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PATH
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  • FROM BROKENNESS
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  • TO BREAKTHROUGH.
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  • YOU KNOW THE BIBLE VERY CLEARLY
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  • TELLS US IN JOHN 10:10 THAT
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  • THE THIEF COMES ONLY TO STEAL,
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  • TO KILL AND DESTROY.
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  • BUT JESUS SAID,
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  • "I HAVE COME THAT YOU
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  • MAY HAVE LIFE."
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  • AND HE DESCRIBED THAT
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  • LIFE AS BEING MORE ABUNDANT.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: AMEN.
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  • GOD WANTS US TO HAVE A FULL
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  • LIFE, A LIFE WITHOUT LIMITS,
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  • A LIFE OF WHOLENESS,
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  • A LIFE OF ABUNDANCE
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  • AND NOT DEPLETION.
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  • HE WILL TAKE THE BROKEN PIECES
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  • IN YOUR LIFE AND CREATE YOU
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  • A BREAKTHROUGH,
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  • A NEW YOU.
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  • GOD WILL TAKE YOU FROM
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  • BROKENNESS TO LIVING A LIFE
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  • OF WHOLENESS.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND JOINING US HERE
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  • TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT ARE
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  • TWO INDIVIDUALS,
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  • WHO CAN TESTIFY TO GOD'S GREAT
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  • GRACE AND MAKING THESE MOMENTS
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  • POSSIBLE IN YOUR LIFE.
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  • TOURÈ AND SARAH ARE BOTH
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  • AUTHORS.
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  • THEY'RE SPEAKERS,
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  • AND CO-PASTORS OF THE POTTER'S
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  • HOUSE IN DENVER, COLORADO.
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  • TOURÈ, GOD BLESS YOU.
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  • THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
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  • MISS SARAH,
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  • THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE.
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  • YOU KNOW,
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  • REALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TOPICS,
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  • THERE'S OFTEN TIMES THAT
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  • AUTHORS PICK A TOPIC BECAUSE
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  • AN EDITOR SAID, YOU KNOW,
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  • "WELL, THE MARKET NEEDS A BOOK
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  • ON THIS"
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  • OR THEY JUST KIND OF SAY,
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  • "WE THINK WE CAN FILL A SPACE
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  • WITH THIS."
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  • WHAT YOU'VE CAPTURED
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  • AND WHAT YOU'VE GOT FOR CONTENT
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  • IS SOMETHING THAT --
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  • IT'S NOT --
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  • YOU DIDN'T GO RESEARCH IT.
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  • YOU WALKED THROUGH IT.
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  • YOU LIVED IT.
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  • HOW DOES THAT IMPACT YOU AS
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  • A WRITER WHENEVER YOU SIT DOWN
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  • TO TAKE THE PEN
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  • AND GO AFTER THAT?
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: YEAH,
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  • I THINK, FOR ME,
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  • WHETHER IT'S WRITING
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  • OR SPEAKING,
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  • WHAT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE IS
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  • GOING TO BE WHAT IS AN ORGANIC
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  • OVERFLOW OF WHAT GOD HAS DONE
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  • IN MY OWN LIFE.
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  • AND FOR WHOLENESS,
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  • I MEAN I WAS TALKING TO
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  • MY STAFF THE OTHER DAY,
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  • AND I SAID,
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  • "THIS BOOK IS SO NECESSARY;
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  • THAT IF THIS WAS THE ONLY BOOK
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  • I LEFT IN THE EARTH,
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  • I WOULD FEEL COMPLETELY
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  • SATISFIED WITH IT."
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  • AND SO IT'S --
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  • MATT HAGEE: THAT'S A GREAT DEAL
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  • OF CONVICTION ABOUT A MESSAGE.
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: YEAH,
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  • IT'S ALL THERE.
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  • AND TO YOUR POINT,
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  • YOU KNOW JOHN 10:10,
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  • JESUS SAID,
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  • "I CAME THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
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  • LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE
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  • ABUNDANTLY."
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  • AND A LOT OF TIMES,
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  • WE GET THE MAIN THING WORKED
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  • OUT, WHICH IS SALVATION.
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  • BUT I THINK THAT IF GOD WANTED
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  • US JUST TO BE SAVED AND THAT
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  • WOULD BE IT,
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  • WE WOULD BE ZAPPED AT
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  • THE MOMENT OF CONVERSION.
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  • MATT HAGEE: CORRECT.
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: SO IT'S
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  • UH, IT'S THE PROCESS
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  • OF BECOMING WHOLE.
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  • SOME PEOPLE WILL CALL IT
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  • "SANCTIFICATION"
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  • BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
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  • AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE
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  • THINGS THAT I ADDRESS IN THE
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  • BOOK AND REALLY HELP PEOPLE TO
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  • WALK IT OUT IN THEIR OWN LIVES.
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  • MATT HAGEE: THAT'S GREAT.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S AWESOME.
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  • AND YOU'RE BOOK, TOO,
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  • I HAD THE CHANCE TO READ IT.
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  • IN TALKING ABOUT YOUR PAST
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  • AND HOW YOU CAN OVERCOME THAT;
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  • THAT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES DON'T
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  • DETERMINE YOUR FUTURE,
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  • AND WHAT AN AMAZING TESTIMONY
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  • THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SHARE
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  • IN YOUR BOOK,
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  • AND TALK ABOUT WHOLENESS.
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  • AND THEY'RE BOTH KIND OF
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  • COMBINED WITH EACH OTHER.
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  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
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  • MATT HAGEE: WELL, AND YOU KNOW,
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  • YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT THEY'LL
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  • MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE,
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  • YOU KNOW,
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  • "DON'T LET YOUR PAST DETERMINE
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  • YOUR FUTURE," BUT IT'S --
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  • IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT
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  • WHEN YOU CAN OPEN UP YOUR
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  • EXPERIENCES
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  • AND GOD'S GRACE IN THOSE
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  • EXPERIENCES TO HELP OTHER
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  • PEOPLE BELIEVE.
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  • IF THAT'S A REAL TESTIMONY
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  • THERE,
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  • THAT CAN BECOME REALITY FOR ME.
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  • HOW DOES THAT APPLY WHENEVER
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  • YOU SEE THAT WORKING IN YOUR
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  • ROLES TOGETHER AS PASTORS THERE
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  • AT POTTER'S HOUSE IN DENVER?
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  • YOU KNOW YOU WALK INTO
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  • AN ENVIRONMENT TO MINISTER
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  • AND YOU'VE GOT A CONGREGATION
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  • OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPECTING
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  • TO BE FED.
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  • IT'S A GOOD THING,
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  • I WOULD THINK,
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  • FOR THEM TO KNOW THAT --
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  • THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S
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  • BRINGING HEAVEN'S BREAD
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  • IS ACTUALLY TASTING IT.
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  • (LAUGHTER)
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  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: CERTAINLY,
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  • I BELIEVE IN OUR ROLES.
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  • WE ACTUALLY PASTOR IN DENVER
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  • AND IN LOS ANGELES.
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  • AND THEY'RE TWO TOTALLY
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  • DIFFERENT CAMPUSES.
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  • BUT I THINK WHAT IS UNIQUE
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  • ABOUT THE GRACE THAT EXISTS ON
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  • BOTH OF THEM IS THAT THEY BOTH
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  • RESPOND TO AUTHENTICITY
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  • AND REAL LIFE STORIES.
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  • AND SO WHETHER YOU'RE IN
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  • THE MAL HOUSE CITY OR RIGHT
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  • IN THE HEART OF HOLLYWOOD,
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  • WHAT'S FROM THE HEART
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  • REACHES THE HEART.
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  • AND AS WE OPEN UP OUR LIFE
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  • AND OUR OWN EXPERIENCES,
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  • WE REALLY SEE TRANSFORMATION
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  • TAKING PLACE IN THE LIVES
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  • OF OUR PARISHIONERS,
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  • AS THEY WALK OUT THEIR
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  • DAY-TO-DAY LIFE.
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  • MATT HAGEE: NOW WHEN YOU TALK
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  • ABOUT YOUR PARISHIONERS,
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  • IT WOULD BE INTERESTING --
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  • I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE CONTEXT
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  • OF PEOPLE APPRECIATE
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  • AUTHENTICITY.
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  • WHAT'S THE AGE DEMOGRAPHIC
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  • OF YOUR CONGREGATIONS?
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  • ARE THEY THE SAME IN BOTH
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  • LOCATIONS?
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  • OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT IN TWO
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  • DIFFERENT SPOTS?
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  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: WELL --
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: YEAH,
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  • THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
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  • SO IN L.A., OUR CAMPUS IN L.A.,
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  • THE AVERAGE AGE IS 27 YEARS OLD.
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  • THE AVERAGE IN DENVER IS 42.
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  • MATT HAGEE: OKAY.
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: SO IT'S A,
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  • DENVER IS A,
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  • FIRST OF ALL, A GREAT CITY.
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  • WE JUST TOOK OVER THE CHURCH
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  • JUST SEVEN MONTHS AGO,
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  • MULTICULTURE, OF COURSE,
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  • BUT MULTIGENERATIONAL WHERE --
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  • AND WE LOVE THAT.
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  • L.A. IS NOT THAT WAY AT ALL.
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  • I'M LIKE THE OLD -- WE'RE
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  • THE OLD PEOPLE IN IT IN L.A.
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  • (LAUGHTER)
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  • MATT HAGEE: IN ONE ROOM YOU
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  • WALK IN AND YOU'RE THE OLDEST
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  • GUY IN THE ROOM.
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  • IN OTHER ROOM YOU WALK IN,
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  • YOU'RE THE YOUNGEST GUY
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  • IN THE ROOM.
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: EXACTLY.
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  • MATT HAGEE: I KNOW A LITTLE BIT
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  • ABOUT THAT.
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: I BET YOU
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  • DO.
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  • MATT HAGEE: BUT IN MY
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  • EXPERIENCE,
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  • AND WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED
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  • IN YOURS AS WELL IS,
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  • THE ONE THING THAT COVERS THAT
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  • SPECTRUM IS AUTHENTICITY.
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  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: OH, YEAH.
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  • MATT HAGEE: BECAUSE IN ONE
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  • CONVERSATION,
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  • YOU'RE SPEAKING WITH SOMEBODY
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  • WHO'S BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.
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  • BUT IF YOU'RE SINCERE ABOUT
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  • WHAT YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH,
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  • THEY CAN ENCOURAGE YOU BECAUSE
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  • THEY FEEL SAFE IN TELLING YOU
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  • WHAT THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH.
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  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND THEN IN ANOTHER
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  • CONVERSATION,
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  • YOU'VE GOT YOUNG PEOPLE THAT
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  • THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW,
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  • NO CLUE ABOUT WHAT'S IN FRONT
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  • OF THEM,
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  • BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME
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  • FOR THEM.
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  • AND WITH YOUR AUTHENTICITY
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  • THERE,
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  • YOU'RE PULLING THEM THROUGH
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  • WITH HOPE THAT,
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  • HEY, IF YOU GUYS MADE IT,
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  • I CAN MAKE IT TOO.
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  • YOU KNOW IT HELPS, I THINK,
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  • A MULTITUDE OF MINISTERS TO
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  • RECOGNIZE THE MORE GENUINE YOU
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  • ARE ABOUT WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT
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  • GOD'S DONE FOR YOU,
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  • THAT'S HOW YOU GET FROM
  • 00:05:54.050 --> 00:05:55.140
  • BROKENNESS TO BREAKTHROUGH.
  • 00:05:55.140 --> 00:05:56.260
  • BECAUSE UNTIL YOU GRIP THAT,
  • 00:05:56.260 --> 00:05:58.180
  • YOU'RE JUST GOING TO STAY
  • 00:05:58.180 --> 00:05:59.190
  • IN PIECES.
  • 00:05:59.190 --> 00:06:00.210
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:06:00.210 --> 00:06:01.210
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:06:01.210 --> 00:06:02.100
  • WHAT IS THE MOST CHALLENGING,
  • 00:06:02.100 --> 00:06:03.250
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:06:03.250 --> 00:06:04.160
  • BEING A PASTOR TOGETHER OR SOME
  • 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.010
  • OF THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU
  • 00:06:06.010 --> 00:06:07.010
  • EXPERIENCE FROM THE TWO
  • 00:06:07.010 --> 00:06:08.000
  • DIFFERENT CONGREGATIONS?
  • 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.220
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: WELL --
  • 00:06:09.220 --> 00:06:10.230
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:06:10.230 --> 00:06:12.190
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: I THINK, WELL,
  • 00:06:12.190 --> 00:06:14.040
  • THIS WAS A GREAT CHALLENGE
  • 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:15.010
  • FOR ME,
  • 00:06:15.010 --> 00:06:15.250
  • SO I PASTORED ALL THESE
  • 00:06:15.250 --> 00:06:17.040
  • MILLENNIALS FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:19.120
  • FOR YEARS, OVER A DECADE.
  • 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.060
  • AND THEIR -- THEIR ISSUES
  • 00:06:21.060 --> 00:06:23.230
  • ARE PRETTY BOXED IN.
  • 00:06:23.230 --> 00:06:25.120
  • YOU PRETTY MUCH KNOW THEM,
  • 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:26.250
  • RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:06:26.250 --> 00:06:27.250
  • PASTOR MATT: BUT I MEAN
  • 00:06:27.250 --> 00:06:28.170
  • TEN YEARS OF COMMITMENT OUT
  • 00:06:28.170 --> 00:06:29.120
  • OF A MILLENNIAL, THAT'S A GO.
  • 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:31.040
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.020
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:06:32.020 --> 00:06:32.240
  • MATT HAGEE: YOU OUGHT TO WRITE
  • 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:33.130
  • A BOOK.
  • 00:06:33.130 --> 00:06:33.280
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: I SEE IT
  • 00:06:33.280 --> 00:06:34.210
  • ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:06:34.210 --> 00:06:35.120
  • REVIVAL IN PLACES AROUND THE
  • 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:36.200
  • WORLD, MAYBE LIKE AFRICA,
  • 00:06:36.200 --> 00:06:37.260
  • OR SIGNS AND WONDERS REVIVAL
  • 00:06:37.260 --> 00:06:39.070
  • IN HOLLYWOOD;
  • 00:06:39.070 --> 00:06:40.160
  • THESE PEOPLE COMING TO CHURCH.
  • 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:41.160
  • MATT HAGEE: CORRECT.
  • 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:42.070
  • CONSISTENTLY.
  • 00:06:42.070 --> 00:06:42.260
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: CONSISTENTLY.
  • 00:06:42.260 --> 00:06:44.060
  • BUT I THINK THE GREAT CHALLENGE
  • 00:06:44.060 --> 00:06:45.190
  • FOR ME PASTORING DENVER IS
  • 00:06:45.190 --> 00:06:48.010
  • REALLY BEING ABLE TO TELL
  • 00:06:48.010 --> 00:06:49.010
  • NEW STORIES,
  • 00:06:49.010 --> 00:06:50.080
  • BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO MOVE --
  • 00:06:50.080 --> 00:06:51.290
  • THE SAME GOSPEL,
  • 00:06:51.290 --> 00:06:52.240
  • BUT DIFFERENT PRESENTATION.
  • 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:54.050
  • WHAT'S GOING TO MOVE A 20 YEAR
  • 00:06:54.050 --> 00:06:55.260
  • OLD IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
  • 00:06:55.260 --> 00:06:57.220
  • FROM WHAT'S GOING TO MOVE
  • 00:06:57.220 --> 00:06:58.230
  • A RETIREE; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:06:58.230 --> 00:07:00.130
  • AND SO IT STRETCHED ME
  • 00:07:00.130 --> 00:07:01.140
  • AS A LEADER,
  • 00:07:01.140 --> 00:07:02.090
  • AS A COMMUNICATOR.
  • 00:07:02.090 --> 00:07:03.160
  • HARD, BUT I LIKE WHAT IT DID
  • 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.090
  • INSIDE.
  • 00:07:05.090 --> 00:07:06.040
  • MATT HAGEE: AND TO BE FLEXIBLE
  • 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:07.070
  • TO IT.
  • 00:07:07.070 --> 00:07:07.270
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: AND TO BE
  • 00:07:07.270 --> 00:07:08.190
  • FLEXIBLE.
  • 00:07:08.190 --> 00:07:09.100
  • MATT HAGEE: YEAH.
  • 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:09.280
  • TO RECOGNIZE THAT
  • 00:07:09.280 --> 00:07:11.020
  • THE TRUTH IS STILL THE TRUTH,
  • 00:07:11.020 --> 00:07:11.240
  • BUT THE APPLICATION AND
  • 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:12.170
  • THE PROCESS AND THE PRINCIPLES
  • 00:07:12.170 --> 00:07:13.220
  • OF GETTING THERE,
  • 00:07:13.220 --> 00:07:14.110
  • YOU'VE GOT TO LEARN TO CRAFT
  • 00:07:14.110 --> 00:07:15.250
  • SO THAT IT APPLIES ACROSS.
  • 00:07:16.210 --> 00:07:19.210
  • I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT
  • 00:07:19.210 --> 00:07:20.150
  • YOU'RE SAYING.
  • 00:07:20.150 --> 00:07:21.100
  • I'VE PREACHED IN TEXAS.
  • 00:07:21.100 --> 00:07:22.250
  • I'VE PREACHED IN L.A.
  • 00:07:22.250 --> 00:07:24.060
  • AND WHEN I STOOD UP IN
  • 00:07:24.060 --> 00:07:24.280
  • A PLATFORM IN L.A.
  • 00:07:24.280 --> 00:07:25.270
  • AND EXPECTED A RESPONSE,
  • 00:07:25.270 --> 00:07:26.290
  • I GOT CRICKETS.
  • 00:07:26.290 --> 00:07:28.030
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:07:28.030 --> 00:07:28.290
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: THAT WORKED SO
  • 00:07:28.290 --> 00:07:29.260
  • WELL BACK IN TEXAS.
  • 00:07:29.260 --> 00:07:31.110
  • MATT HAGEE: AND THE THOUGHT
  • 00:07:31.110 --> 00:07:31.290
  • WENT THROUGH MY HEAD,
  • 00:07:31.290 --> 00:07:32.170
  • YOU'RE NOT IN TEXAS ANYMORE.
  • 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:35.050
  • WHEN WE COME BACK,
  • 00:07:35.050 --> 00:07:36.040
  • WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
  • 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:36.230
  • THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN
  • 00:07:36.230 --> 00:07:38.080
  • AND DISCUSS MORE ABOUT THESE
  • 00:07:38.080 --> 00:07:39.160
  • TWO GREAT BOOKS FROM SARAH
  • 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:40.270
  • AND TOURÈ.
  • 00:07:40.270 --> 00:07:41.240
  • KENDAL AND SARAH ARE GOING TO
  • 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.060
  • BE SITTING ON
  • 00:07:43.060 --> 00:07:43.230
  • THE KENDAL'S CORNER.
  • 00:07:43.230 --> 00:07:44.120
  • AND TOURÈ AND I ARE GOING TO GO
  • 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:45.080
  • OVER AND HAVE A MOMENT
  • 00:07:45.080 --> 00:07:46.020
  • WITH MATT.
  • 00:07:46.020 --> 00:07:46.220
  • YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN HOW YOU
  • 00:07:46.220 --> 00:07:47.290
  • CAN HELP MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN
  • 00:07:47.290 --> 00:07:49.060
  • YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF
  • 00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:50.080
  • THOSE AROUND YOU.
  • 00:07:50.080 --> 00:07:51.100
  • WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU
  • 00:07:51.100 --> 00:07:52.130
  • RIGHT BACK HERE IN JUST
  • 00:07:52.130 --> 00:07:53.110
  • A FEW MOMENTS.
  • 00:07:53.110 --> 00:07:54.250
  • MUSIC
  • 00:07:55.080 --> 00:07:58.080
  • WHEN YOU GIVE TO
  • 00:07:58.080 --> 00:07:59.180
  • SANCTUARY OF HOPE,
  • 00:07:59.180 --> 00:08:00.230
  • YOU ARE GIVING A CHILD A CHANCE
  • 00:08:00.230 --> 00:08:02.030
  • AT LIFE AND A HOPEFUL FUTURE.
  • 00:08:02.030 --> 00:08:04.070
  • FOR YOUR GIFT OF $50 OR MORE,
  • 00:08:04.070 --> 00:08:06.060
  • YOU WILL RECEIVE AS A GIFT,
  • 00:08:06.060 --> 00:08:07.140
  • A SPECIAL COFFEE MUG,
  • 00:08:07.140 --> 00:08:08.220
  • AN INSPIRING PRAYER JOURNAL,
  • 00:08:08.220 --> 00:08:10.110
  • AND SARAH JAKES ROBERTS' BOOK
  • 00:08:10.110 --> 00:08:12.050
  • DON'T SETTLE FOR SAFE.
  • 00:08:12.050 --> 00:08:13.170
  • AND FOR A GIFT OF $150 OR MORE,
  • 00:08:13.170 --> 00:08:15.240
  • YOU WILL RECEIVE ALL THREE
  • 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.240
  • GIFTS ALONG WITH A FRAMED
  • 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.020
  • WALL ART,
  • 00:08:18.020 --> 00:08:18.230
  • FEATURING A FAMILIAR BLESSING
  • 00:08:18.230 --> 00:08:20.040
  • FROM PASTOR HAGEE.
  • 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:21.080
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: AND NOW MAY
  • 00:08:21.080 --> 00:08:22.060
  • THE LORD BLESS YOU
  • 00:08:22.060 --> 00:08:22.240
  • AND KEEP YOU.
  • 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:23.270
  • MAY THE LORD MAKE HIS FACE...
  • 00:08:23.270 --> 00:08:24.180
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN
  • 00:08:24.180 --> 00:08:25.160
  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG.
  • 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.100
  • DEAR PASTOR HAGEE,
  • 00:08:28.100 --> 00:08:30.150
  • I JUST WANTED TO WRITE YOU
  • 00:08:30.150 --> 00:08:31.290
  • TO SAY HOW HONORED RAYLA JEAN
  • 00:08:31.290 --> 00:08:33.100
  • AND I ARE TO HAVE BEEN PARTNERS
  • 00:08:33.100 --> 00:08:35.000
  • IN YOUR MINISTRY
  • 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:35.230
  • ALL THESE YEARS
  • 00:08:35.230 --> 00:08:36.260
  • AND TO SEE ALL THE AMAZING
  • 00:08:36.260 --> 00:08:38.020
  • THINGS YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED
  • 00:08:38.020 --> 00:08:39.070
  • AROUND THE WORLD
  • 00:08:39.070 --> 00:08:40.080
  • WITH THE GIFTS WE AND OTHERS
  • 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:41.150
  • LIKE US HAD GLADLY GIVEN
  • 00:08:41.150 --> 00:08:43.020
  • OVER THE YEARS.
  • 00:08:43.020 --> 00:08:44.050
  • FURTHERMORE, IT HAS BEEN
  • 00:08:44.050 --> 00:08:45.180
  • SO REFRESHING TO SEE
  • 00:08:45.180 --> 00:08:47.050
  • THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS
  • 00:08:47.050 --> 00:08:48.060
  • COMING ONBOARD TO PARTNER
  • 00:08:48.060 --> 00:08:49.200
  • WITH YOU IN SPREADING
  • 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:51.020
  • CHRIST' MESSAGE TO THE WORLD.
  • 00:08:51.020 --> 00:08:53.030
  • PASTOR MATT HAGEE: I WANT TO
  • 00:08:53.030 --> 00:08:54.030
  • WELCOME YOU BOTH TO PARTNERSHIP
  • 00:08:54.030 --> 00:08:55.130
  • WITH JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES.
  • 00:08:55.130 --> 00:08:56.210
  • TOGETHER WE WILL MAKE
  • 00:08:56.210 --> 00:08:58.020
  • A GREAT IMPACT FOR CHRIST
  • 00:08:58.020 --> 00:08:59.260
  • AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:08:59.260 --> 00:09:02.050
  • MAY GOD CONTINUE PROSPERING YOU
  • 00:09:02.050 --> 00:09:04.130
  • IN ALL YOUR ENDEAVORS.
  • 00:09:04.130 --> 00:09:05.260
  • YOUR DEAR FRIENDS,
  • 00:09:05.260 --> 00:09:06.260
  • RON AND RAYLA JEAN.
  • 00:09:06.260 --> 00:09:08.220
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: I WANT TO
  • 00:09:08.220 --> 00:09:09.280
  • THANK YOU,
  • 00:09:09.280 --> 00:09:10.170
  • OUR PARTNERS,
  • 00:09:10.170 --> 00:09:11.240
  • FOR MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR US
  • 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.090
  • TO PREACH THE GOSPEL
  • 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:14.250
  • TO THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:09:14.250 --> 00:09:16.210
  • THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:19.130
  • MUSIC
  • 00:09:26.130 --> 00:09:29.130
  • MUSIC
  • 00:09:29.130 --> 00:09:31.170
  • MATT HAGEE: WELCOME BACK TO
  • 00:09:31.170 --> 00:09:32.130
  • THE DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:09:32.130 --> 00:09:33.060
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS AND I ARE HERE TO
  • 00:09:33.060 --> 00:09:34.240
  • DISCUSS THE TOPIC OF WHOLENESS.
  • 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:37.010
  • NOW TOURÈ,
  • 00:09:37.010 --> 00:09:38.010
  • "WHOLENESS" IS KIND OF
  • 00:09:38.010 --> 00:09:39.000
  • A GENERAL WORD.
  • 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:39.230
  • BUT WHAT'S THE DEFINITION
  • 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:40.250
  • THAT YOU GIVE IT?
  • 00:09:40.250 --> 00:09:42.050
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: I THINK
  • 00:09:42.050 --> 00:09:42.240
  • THAT WHOLENESS IS THE BEST
  • 00:09:43.010 --> 00:09:46.010
  • STATE OF A PERSON AT A GIVEN
  • 00:09:46.010 --> 00:09:47.240
  • POINT IN TIME IN THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.060
  • IT'S TO BE UNBROKEN.
  • 00:09:50.060 --> 00:09:52.040
  • IT'S TO BE WELL.
  • 00:09:52.040 --> 00:09:53.200
  • IT'S TO BE COMPLETE.
  • 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.220
  • THERE'S A HEBREW WORD IN THE
  • 00:09:55.220 --> 00:09:56.280
  • SCRIPTURES THAT TALKS ABOUT --
  • 00:09:56.280 --> 00:09:58.170
  • IT'S BEEN TRANSLATED, PROSPER,
  • 00:09:58.170 --> 00:10:00.210
  • "FOR I KNOW THE PLANS I HAVE
  • 00:10:00.210 --> 00:10:01.130
  • FOR YOU,
  • 00:10:01.130 --> 00:10:02.020
  • PLANS TO PROSPER YOU."
  • 00:10:02.020 --> 00:10:03.020
  • AND THAT WORD LITERALLY SPEAKS
  • 00:10:03.020 --> 00:10:04.090
  • TO "SHALOM."
  • 00:10:04.090 --> 00:10:05.010
  • YOU KNOW THE WORD.
  • 00:10:05.010 --> 00:10:05.290
  • AND IT'S PEACE,
  • 00:10:05.290 --> 00:10:06.220
  • AND IT'S WHOLENESS.
  • 00:10:06.220 --> 00:10:08.070
  • MATT HAGEE: IT'S MULTIFACETED.
  • 00:10:08.070 --> 00:10:09.130
  • IT'S NOT ONE DIMENSIONAL.
  • 00:10:09.130 --> 00:10:10.200
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: EXACTLY.
  • 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:11.180
  • AND SO -- AND IT'S KIND OF
  • 00:10:11.180 --> 00:10:12.280
  • LIKE US.
  • 00:10:12.280 --> 00:10:13.160
  • YOU KNOW WE CAN BE BROKEN
  • 00:10:13.160 --> 00:10:16.040
  • IN ONE AREA AND WHOLE IN TWO
  • 00:10:16.050 --> 00:10:19.050
  • OR THREE AREAS.
  • 00:10:19.050 --> 00:10:20.020
  • AND SO FOR ME,
  • 00:10:20.020 --> 00:10:21.070
  • THE JOURNEY OF WHOLENESS IS
  • 00:10:21.070 --> 00:10:22.180
  • TO IDENTIFY THOSE BROKEN AREAS,
  • 00:10:22.180 --> 00:10:25.070
  • AND ONE-BY-ONE, TARGET THEM,
  • 00:10:25.070 --> 00:10:27.010
  • AND REALLY HAVE A SERIES OF
  • 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:30.200
  • CONVERSION FROM BROKENNESS
  • 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.190
  • TO WHOLENESS IN VARIOUS AREAS.
  • 00:10:32.190 --> 00:10:34.050
  • MATT HAGEE: IT'S, IN ESSENCE,
  • 00:10:34.050 --> 00:10:35.040
  • THE FULFILLMENT OF
  • 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:36.010
  • THE SCRIPTURE,
  • 00:10:36.010 --> 00:10:36.250
  • "WORKING OUT YOUR OWN
  • 00:10:36.250 --> 00:10:37.250
  • SALVATION."
  • 00:10:37.250 --> 00:10:39.030
  • YOU KNOW YOU RECEIVE THIS GIFT,
  • 00:10:39.030 --> 00:10:40.130
  • BUT THEN THERE'S APPLICATIONS
  • 00:10:40.130 --> 00:10:41.190
  • OF THAT GIFT THAT TAKE YOU
  • 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:42.250
  • TOWARDS THE PROCESS
  • 00:10:42.250 --> 00:10:43.190
  • OF WHOLENESS.
  • 00:10:43.190 --> 00:10:44.200
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:45.140
  • MATT HAGEE: WHAT COMPELLING YOU
  • 00:10:45.140 --> 00:10:46.060
  • TO WRITE THE BOOK?
  • 00:10:46.060 --> 00:10:47.000
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: UH, I THINK IT
  • 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:47.250
  • STARTED WITH MY OWN EXPERIENCE
  • 00:10:47.250 --> 00:10:50.110
  • TO BE SHOCKED AS A BELIEVER
  • 00:10:50.110 --> 00:10:53.090
  • TO DISCOVER AFTER YEARS
  • 00:10:53.090 --> 00:10:55.210
  • OF WALKING WITH GOD THAT,
  • 00:10:55.210 --> 00:10:56.270
  • WOW, YOU'VE STILL GOT
  • 00:10:56.270 --> 00:10:58.030
  • THIS BROKEN AREA OVER HERE.
  • 00:10:58.030 --> 00:10:59.190
  • AND THEN YOU'RE EXCITED.
  • 00:10:59.190 --> 00:11:00.280
  • YOU KNOW GOD HEALS YOU
  • 00:11:00.280 --> 00:11:02.140
  • IN THAT AREA.
  • 00:11:02.140 --> 00:11:03.000
  • AND YOU'RE LIKE,
  • 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:03.220
  • HALLELUJAH; I'VE ARRIVED;
  • 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:05.010
  • ONLY TO DISCOVER ANOTHER AREA
  • 00:11:05.010 --> 00:11:06.150
  • THAT WAS ONCE HIDDEN TO YOU ALL
  • 00:11:06.150 --> 00:11:08.160
  • THE WHILE THOSE THINGS HOLDING
  • 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:09.150
  • YOU BACK FROM YOUR POTENTIAL
  • 00:11:09.150 --> 00:11:10.200
  • IN GOD.
  • 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:11.160
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL, AND YOU KNOW,
  • 00:11:11.160 --> 00:11:12.130
  • I THINK IT ALSO HELPS PEOPLE
  • 00:11:12.130 --> 00:11:13.180
  • UNDERSTAND SOME OF
  • 00:11:13.180 --> 00:11:16.050
  • THE STATEMENTS THAT WE MAKE
  • 00:11:16.050 --> 00:11:17.120
  • IN CHURCH ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:18.120
  • "GOD'S NOT DONE WITH ME YET.
  • 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:19.240
  • GOD'S STILL DEALING WITH ME."
  • 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:21.210
  • BECAUSE AS HUMAN BEINGS,
  • 00:11:21.210 --> 00:11:23.020
  • WE WANT TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS
  • 00:11:23.020 --> 00:11:24.070
  • ABOUT OTHERS AND SAY THINGS
  • 00:11:24.070 --> 00:11:25.260
  • LIKE,
  • 00:11:25.260 --> 00:11:26.170
  • "HE'S GOT IT ALL TOGETHER."
  • 00:11:26.170 --> 00:11:27.230
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: RIGHT.
  • 00:11:27.230 --> 00:11:28.130
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,
  • 00:11:28.130 --> 00:11:29.050
  • YOU MIGHT BE JUDGING
  • 00:11:29.050 --> 00:11:29.200
  • OR EVALUATING ONE SECTION
  • 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:30.270
  • OF HIS LIFE.
  • 00:11:30.270 --> 00:11:31.290
  • HE MIGHT HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER
  • 00:11:31.290 --> 00:11:32.270
  • IN BUSINESS,
  • 00:11:32.270 --> 00:11:33.230
  • BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING
  • 00:11:33.230 --> 00:11:35.130
  • PUT TOGETHER AT HOME.
  • 00:11:35.130 --> 00:11:36.270
  • HE MIGHT HAVE EVERYTHING
  • 00:11:36.270 --> 00:11:38.230
  • TOGETHER IN HIS FAMILY,
  • 00:11:38.230 --> 00:11:40.000
  • BUT HE'S BROKEN INSIDE.
  • 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:41.210
  • AND YOU KNOW WHOLENESS IS BEING
  • 00:11:41.210 --> 00:11:43.250
  • ABLE TO TAKE ALL THOSE ASPECTS
  • 00:11:43.250 --> 00:11:45.100
  • AND DYNAMICS,
  • 00:11:45.100 --> 00:11:46.010
  • AND LIVE TO THE FULLEST
  • 00:11:46.010 --> 00:11:47.060
  • POTENTIAL OF GOD'S PROMISES
  • 00:11:47.060 --> 00:11:49.020
  • IN THAT MOMENT AND BE ABLE
  • 00:11:49.020 --> 00:11:51.090
  • TO ENJOY LIFE.
  • 00:11:51.090 --> 00:11:52.180
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: THAT'S EXACTLY
  • 00:11:52.180 --> 00:11:53.090
  • WHAT IT IS.
  • 00:11:53.090 --> 00:11:54.050
  • YOU KNOW I'M THINKING ABOUT
  • 00:11:54.050 --> 00:11:54.270
  • ROMANS 12 WHEN PAUL SAYS,
  • 00:11:54.270 --> 00:11:56.080
  • "DON'T BE CONFORMED TO THIS
  • 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:57.080
  • WORLD BUT BE TRANSFORMED
  • 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.080
  • BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MIND."
  • 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.060
  • AND THAT WORD "RENEWING,"
  • 00:12:01.060 --> 00:12:02.070
  • THAT LITERALLY MEANS
  • 00:12:02.070 --> 00:12:02.260
  • "RENOVATION."
  • 00:12:02.260 --> 00:12:04.050
  • WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
  • 00:12:04.050 --> 00:12:04.180
  • A RENOVATION,
  • 00:12:04.180 --> 00:12:05.070
  • IT'S TEARING DOWN SOME OLD
  • 00:12:05.070 --> 00:12:06.070
  • STUFF TO BUILD THIS NEW THING.
  • 00:12:06.070 --> 00:12:08.150
  • AND THAT'S WHAT WHOLENESS
  • 00:12:08.150 --> 00:12:09.060
  • IS FOR ME.
  • 00:12:09.060 --> 00:12:09.260
  • IT'S LOOKING AT THINGS
  • 00:12:09.260 --> 00:12:11.170
  • DIFFERENTLY,
  • 00:12:11.170 --> 00:12:12.040
  • SEEING THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
  • 00:12:12.040 --> 00:12:13.100
  • THINGS OPERATE AND FUNCTION
  • 00:12:13.100 --> 00:12:15.060
  • IN OUR BLIND SPOTS.
  • 00:12:15.060 --> 00:12:15.290
  • YOU KNOW IF I CAN SEE THE ENEMY,
  • 00:12:15.290 --> 00:12:17.200
  • I CAN WIN.
  • 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:18.230
  • BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ENEMY WITHIN
  • 00:12:18.230 --> 00:12:20.220
  • ME THAT I CAN'T SEE?
  • 00:12:20.220 --> 00:12:22.040
  • AND WHAT AM I BEING HELD BACK
  • 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:25.080
  • FROM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE
  • 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:27.010
  • THIS THIEF ROBBING ME
  • 00:12:27.010 --> 00:12:28.180
  • OF DESTINY AND POTENTIAL?
  • 00:12:28.180 --> 00:12:29.250
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,
  • 00:12:29.250 --> 00:12:30.180
  • AND YOU KNOW AS YOU TALK ABOUT
  • 00:12:30.180 --> 00:12:31.080
  • THE ENEMY WITHIN,
  • 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:32.000
  • I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S
  • 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:32.240
  • ANYBODY THAT IF THEY COULD
  • 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.290
  • IDENTIFY THE EXACT THING IN
  • 00:12:34.290 --> 00:12:36.110
  • THEIR LIFE THAT NEEDED TO BE
  • 00:12:36.110 --> 00:12:37.230
  • REMOVED SO THAT THEY COULD BE
  • 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:39.070
  • WHOLE; THAT THEY'D SAY,
  • 00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:40.150
  • "NO, NO, NO; LET ME KEEP THAT."
  • 00:12:40.150 --> 00:12:41.290
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: RIGHT.
  • 00:12:41.290 --> 00:12:42.190
  • MATT HAGEE: BUT THE CHALLENGE
  • 00:12:42.190 --> 00:12:43.130
  • IS, IS THEY DON'T HAVE
  • 00:12:43.130 --> 00:12:44.260
  • THE CERTAINTY OF,
  • 00:12:44.260 --> 00:12:45.170
  • OKAY, IF I JUST ADDRESS THIS,
  • 00:12:45.170 --> 00:12:47.250
  • THAT'S WHERE THE PAIN STOPS.
  • 00:12:47.250 --> 00:12:49.010
  • THEY'RE CONCERNED,
  • 00:12:49.010 --> 00:12:49.200
  • IF I ADDRESS THIS,
  • 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:50.150
  • THEN THAT'S GOING TO LEAD
  • 00:12:50.150 --> 00:12:51.120
  • TO ANOTHER THING,
  • 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:52.000
  • AND THAT'S GOING TO LEAD
  • 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:52.170
  • TO ANOTHER THING.
  • 00:12:52.170 --> 00:12:53.160
  • WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND TO
  • 00:12:53.160 --> 00:12:54.070
  • A PERSON WHO REALLY HAS
  • 00:12:54.070 --> 00:12:56.130
  • THE COURAGE TO READ THIS BOOK?
  • 00:12:56.130 --> 00:12:58.010
  • BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF
  • 00:12:58.010 --> 00:12:59.140
  • THE THOSE BOOKS -- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:12:59.140 --> 00:13:00.240
  • FIRST OFF, I'D TELL EVERYBODY,
  • 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.100
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:03.010
  • "YOU NEED TO READ THIS BOOK,
  • 00:13:03.010 --> 00:13:04.070
  • BUT I'M GOING TO WARN YOU;
  • 00:13:04.070 --> 00:13:05.100
  • DON'T READ IT UNLESS YOU HAVE
  • 00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:06.080
  • THE COURAGE TO READ IT,
  • 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:07.110
  • BECAUSE THIS BOOK IS A TOPIC
  • 00:13:07.110 --> 00:13:09.080
  • THAT'S GOING TO MESS WITH YOU.
  • 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:10.230
  • YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PICK IT UP,
  • 00:13:10.230 --> 00:13:11.190
  • READ IT, AND PUT IT DOWN.
  • 00:13:11.190 --> 00:13:13.060
  • YOU'RE GOING TO PICK IT UP,
  • 00:13:13.060 --> 00:13:13.260
  • READ IT,
  • 00:13:13.260 --> 00:13:14.140
  • AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO
  • 00:13:14.140 --> 00:13:15.040
  • WORK ON YOU UNTIL YOU GO
  • 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:16.100
  • TO WORK."
  • 00:13:16.100 --> 00:13:17.080
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:18.020
  • AND YOU'VE GOT TO TRUST
  • 00:13:18.020 --> 00:13:18.240
  • THE PROCESS.
  • 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.140
  • YOU KNOW AGAIN,
  • 00:13:19.140 --> 00:13:20.120
  • WE TALKED ABOUT JEREMIAH,
  • 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.230
  • "FOR I KNOW THE PLANS I HAVE
  • 00:13:21.230 --> 00:13:22.230
  • FOR YOU,
  • 00:13:22.230 --> 00:13:23.150
  • PLANS TO PROSPER YOU AND NOT
  • 00:13:23.150 --> 00:13:24.290
  • TO HARM YOU."
  • 00:13:24.290 --> 00:13:25.280
  • SO YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT TAKES
  • 00:13:25.280 --> 00:13:27.060
  • GREAT COURAGE TO OPEN UP
  • 00:13:27.060 --> 00:13:28.250
  • AND LET GOD SEE EVERYTHING.
  • 00:13:28.250 --> 00:13:30.160
  • BUT HE DOESN'T REVEAL
  • 00:13:30.160 --> 00:13:31.170
  • TO TEAR YOU DOWN.
  • 00:13:31.170 --> 00:13:32.070
  • HE REVEALS BECAUSE HE WANTS
  • 00:13:32.070 --> 00:13:33.110
  • TO HEAL.
  • 00:13:33.110 --> 00:13:34.060
  • AND UH, AND SO EMBRACE IT.
  • 00:13:34.060 --> 00:13:36.140
  • EMBRACE THE PROCESS.
  • 00:13:36.140 --> 00:13:37.080
  • I WROTE IT -- THERE ARE A LOT
  • 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:38.110
  • OF -- FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:39.210
  • I PUT A LOT OF MYSELF IN IT,
  • 00:13:39.210 --> 00:13:41.110
  • MYSELF AS WELL AS PASTORING
  • 00:13:41.110 --> 00:13:43.290
  • OVER 15 YEARS,
  • 00:13:43.290 --> 00:13:44.260
  • AND ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE,
  • 00:13:44.260 --> 00:13:46.180
  • TO LET, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:13:46.180 --> 00:13:47.190
  • THE PERSON KNOW YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:13:47.190 --> 00:13:48.170
  • BY YOURSELF.
  • 00:13:48.170 --> 00:13:49.130
  • YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT.
  • 00:13:49.130 --> 00:13:50.240
  • YOU KNOW THERE ARE SOME BROKEN
  • 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:51.220
  • AREAS THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT,
  • 00:13:51.220 --> 00:13:52.210
  • THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
  • 00:13:52.210 --> 00:13:53.200
  • BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL
  • 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:54.200
  • HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
  • 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:55.280
  • AND I'M JUST NOT GOING
  • 00:13:55.280 --> 00:13:58.000
  • TO PERSONALLY LIVE A LIFE
  • 00:13:58.000 --> 00:13:59.240
  • OF MEDIOCRITY; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:01.110
  • AND MEDIOCRITY, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:14:01.110 --> 00:14:02.130
  • IT DOESN'T MEAN AVERAGE
  • 00:14:02.130 --> 00:14:03.070
  • OR NORMAL.
  • 00:14:03.070 --> 00:14:03.280
  • IT MEANS FAILURE.
  • 00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:04.250
  • IT MEANS LITERALLY HALF WAY UP
  • 00:14:04.250 --> 00:14:06.170
  • THE MOUNTAIN.
  • 00:14:06.170 --> 00:14:07.200
  • AND SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.260
  • IT'S NOT NORMAL.
  • 00:14:09.260 --> 00:14:11.010
  • YOU KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:14:11.010 --> 00:14:11.250
  • TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND EVOLVE.
  • 00:14:11.250 --> 00:14:13.100
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,
  • 00:14:13.100 --> 00:14:14.050
  • AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A VERY
  • 00:14:14.050 --> 00:14:15.020
  • SCRIPTURAL PREMISE TO LIVE
  • 00:14:15.020 --> 00:14:15.280
  • YOUR LIFE BY,
  • 00:14:15.280 --> 00:14:16.220
  • BECAUSE THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT
  • 00:14:16.220 --> 00:14:17.270
  • WE'RE FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY
  • 00:14:17.270 --> 00:14:18.280
  • MADE.
  • 00:14:18.280 --> 00:14:19.240
  • WE'RE CREATED IN THE IMAGE
  • 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:21.080
  • OF GOD'S GLORY.
  • 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:22.210
  • WELL, IF HE IS THIS AWESOME
  • 00:14:22.210 --> 00:14:24.250
  • AND EXCELLENT CREATOR,
  • 00:14:24.250 --> 00:14:26.080
  • AND THE WORD SAYS,
  • 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:27.260
  • "HE DOES ALL THINGS WELL,"
  • 00:14:27.260 --> 00:14:29.290
  • THEN HE DIDN'T CREATE YOU
  • 00:14:29.290 --> 00:14:31.150
  • TO BE AVERAGE.
  • 00:14:31.150 --> 00:14:32.140
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY NOT.
  • 00:14:32.140 --> 00:14:33.090
  • MATT HAGEE: HE CREATED YOU
  • 00:14:33.090 --> 00:14:34.040
  • TO BE EXCEPTIONAL.
  • 00:14:34.040 --> 00:14:34.250
  • AND THAT EXCEPTIONALISM COMES
  • 00:14:34.250 --> 00:14:36.140
  • FROM AN IDEAL AND A MINDSET
  • 00:14:36.140 --> 00:14:38.180
  • WITHIN YOURSELF THAT YOU JUST
  • 00:14:38.180 --> 00:14:39.280
  • DETERMINE I AM GOING TO NOT
  • 00:14:39.280 --> 00:14:42.190
  • GIVE UP UNTIL I GET GOD'S BEST
  • 00:14:42.190 --> 00:14:44.270
  • IN EVERY AREA OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:14:44.270 --> 00:14:45.290
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:14:45.290 --> 00:14:46.260
  • YOU KNOW I TALK ABOUT IN THE
  • 00:14:46.260 --> 00:14:47.290
  • BOOK WHAT MY GREATEST FEAR IS.
  • 00:14:47.290 --> 00:14:50.120
  • AND MY GREATEST FEAR IS NOT
  • 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:51.170
  • BEING EVERYTHING THAT GOD SAW
  • 00:14:51.170 --> 00:14:53.020
  • IN ME BEFORE HE PUT ME
  • 00:14:53.020 --> 00:14:54.090
  • IN MY MOTHER'S WOMB.
  • 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:55.190
  • MATT HAGEE: WOW.
  • 00:14:55.190 --> 00:14:56.120
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.080
  • THIS BOOK IS ABOUT.
  • 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:57.280
  • I TALK ABOUT INNER SECURITY,
  • 00:14:57.280 --> 00:15:00.160
  • WHICH DEALS WITH INSECURITIES.
  • 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:02.200
  • MATT HAGEE: SELF-CONFIDENCE.
  • 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:03.130
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: I TALK ABOUT
  • 00:15:03.130 --> 00:15:04.040
  • PATTERNS.
  • 00:15:04.040 --> 00:15:04.270
  • YOU KNOW WE LOOK AT PEOPLE'S
  • 00:15:04.270 --> 00:15:05.180
  • REACTION;
  • 00:15:05.180 --> 00:15:06.070
  • WE DON'T LOOK AT WHAT GOT THEM
  • 00:15:06.070 --> 00:15:07.160
  • TO THAT REACTION OR THAT
  • 00:15:07.160 --> 00:15:08.250
  • OUTCOME.
  • 00:15:08.250 --> 00:15:09.180
  • IT'S INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:15:09.180 --> 00:15:10.220
  • LIKE I SAID,
  • 00:15:10.220 --> 00:15:11.200
  • IF THIS WAS THE ONLY BOOK I
  • 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:12.190
  • WROTE -- THIS IS MY SECOND ONE.
  • 00:15:12.190 --> 00:15:14.030
  • -- I'D BE SATISFIED WITH
  • 00:15:14.030 --> 00:15:15.020
  • THIS BEING LEFT IN THE EARTH.
  • 00:15:15.020 --> 00:15:16.190
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,
  • 00:15:16.190 --> 00:15:17.100
  • IT CERTAINLY GIVES YOU
  • 00:15:17.100 --> 00:15:18.090
  • THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE AT
  • 00:15:18.090 --> 00:15:20.160
  • A LEVEL THAT GOD WANTS TO DEAL
  • 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:21.170
  • WITH YOU ON.
  • 00:15:21.170 --> 00:15:22.070
  • AND I WANT YOU TO GET A COPY OF
  • 00:15:22.070 --> 00:15:23.170
  • "WHOLENESS" AND MAKE IT A PART
  • 00:15:23.170 --> 00:15:25.100
  • OF YOUR READING LIST THIS YEAR.
  • 00:15:25.100 --> 00:15:27.050
  • KENDAL AND SARAH ARE GETTING
  • 00:15:27.050 --> 00:15:28.210
  • READY TO TAKE IT AWAY IN
  • 00:15:28.210 --> 00:15:29.240
  • KENDAL'S CORNER.
  • 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.080
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I AM HONORED
  • 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:32.050
  • TO BE HERE WITH
  • 00:15:32.050 --> 00:15:32.230
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS TO DISCUSS
  • 00:15:32.230 --> 00:15:34.080
  • HER LATEST BOOK
  • 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:35.220
  • DON'T SETTLE FOR SAFE.
  • 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:37.210
  • AND I LOVE YOUR SUBTITLE HERE,
  • 00:15:37.210 --> 00:15:39.020
  • "EMBRACING THE UNCOMFORTABLE
  • 00:15:39.020 --> 00:15:40.190
  • TO BECOME UNSTOPPABLE."
  • 00:15:40.190 --> 00:15:42.080
  • WHAT -- WHAT --
  • 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:43.080
  • HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH
  • 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:44.080
  • THE TITLE,
  • 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:45.010
  • AND TALKING ABOUT YOUR PAST,
  • 00:15:45.010 --> 00:15:46.080
  • AND THEN DON'T SETTLE FOR SAFE?
  • 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.030
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: IT WAS
  • 00:15:48.030 --> 00:15:49.010
  • REALLY JUST TAKING A LOOK AT
  • 00:15:49.010 --> 00:15:49.250
  • MY OWN EXPERIENCES.
  • 00:15:49.250 --> 00:15:51.160
  • I'M VERY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT
  • 00:15:51.160 --> 00:15:53.110
  • ABOUT MY STORY AND MY SCARS
  • 00:15:53.110 --> 00:15:55.200
  • THROUGHOUT THE BOOK.
  • 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:56.220
  • AND I REALIZED THAT WOUNDS THAT
  • 00:15:56.220 --> 00:15:58.190
  • I HAD SUFFERED AS A LITTLE GIRL
  • 00:15:58.190 --> 00:16:00.190
  • WERE FOLLOWING ME INTO
  • 00:16:00.190 --> 00:16:02.010
  • ADULTHOOD AND AFFECTING
  • 00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:03.100
  • MY WOMANHOOD DECISIONS.
  • 00:16:03.100 --> 00:16:05.100
  • AND SO I RECOGNIZED,
  • 00:16:05.100 --> 00:16:06.140
  • IN ORDER FOR ME TO FULLY
  • 00:16:06.140 --> 00:16:07.270
  • EMBRACE WHO I COULD BECOME
  • 00:16:07.270 --> 00:16:09.040
  • AS A WOMAN, A WIFE,
  • 00:16:09.040 --> 00:16:10.190
  • A MOTHER, A BUSINESSWOMAN;
  • 00:16:10.190 --> 00:16:12.100
  • THAT I WOULD HAVE TO,
  • 00:16:12.100 --> 00:16:13.030
  • FIRST, TAKE A LOOK AT
  • 00:16:13.030 --> 00:16:14.000
  • THE UNCOMFORTABLE THINGS
  • 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:15.090
  • THAT HAD HURT ME,
  • 00:16:15.090 --> 00:16:16.080
  • POSSIBLY EVEN DAMAGED ME,
  • 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:17.290
  • SO THAT GOD COULD ULTIMATELY
  • 00:16:17.290 --> 00:16:19.060
  • HEAL ME,
  • 00:16:19.060 --> 00:16:19.260
  • AND THEN GIVE ME HIS POWER TO
  • 00:16:19.260 --> 00:16:21.230
  • FULFILL HIS VISION FOR MY LIFE.
  • 00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:23.110
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AMEN.
  • 00:16:23.110 --> 00:16:24.000
  • YOU KNOW YOU USED AN ANALOGY IN
  • 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.030
  • THE BOOK ABOUT A BROKEN BOAT,
  • 00:16:25.030 --> 00:16:26.210
  • AND HOW YOU SAID THAT YOU DON'T
  • 00:16:26.210 --> 00:16:28.000
  • GO GET SURGERY FOR IT.
  • 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:29.060
  • AND ME BEING A NURSE,
  • 00:16:29.060 --> 00:16:30.000
  • I COULD RELATE TO THAT,
  • 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:31.040
  • BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY
  • 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:31.290
  • LIMPING, THEY'RE IN PAIN.
  • 00:16:31.290 --> 00:16:34.020
  • BUT ON THE OUTSIDE,
  • 00:16:34.020 --> 00:16:34.250
  • THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO
  • 00:16:34.250 --> 00:16:35.160
  • AND FIX IT.
  • 00:16:35.160 --> 00:16:36.100
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: RIGHT.
  • 00:16:36.100 --> 00:16:37.050
  • KENDAL HAGEE: BUT THEN IF YOU
  • 00:16:37.050 --> 00:16:37.280
  • TAKE THAT WE ALL WEAR OUR MASKS.
  • 00:16:37.280 --> 00:16:38.280
  • I KNOW AS PASTOR'S WIVES,
  • 00:16:38.280 --> 00:16:40.160
  • SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:16:40.160 --> 00:16:41.120
  • PERFECT; THAT YOU KNOW,
  • 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:42.200
  • THERE'S NO -- THAT WE ALL HAVE
  • 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:43.290
  • STRUGGLES AND FLAWS.
  • 00:16:43.290 --> 00:16:44.290
  • AND WE JUST HAVE TO REMOVE
  • 00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:46.050
  • THE MASK.
  • 00:16:46.050 --> 00:16:46.270
  • IN YOUR BOOK,
  • 00:16:46.270 --> 00:16:47.200
  • YOU TOLD US ABOUT YOUR STORY
  • 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.190
  • WHEN YOU WERE A TEENAGER.
  • 00:16:49.190 --> 00:16:50.220
  • TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW
  • 00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:52.200
  • YOU OVERCAME THAT, AND HOW
  • 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:53.200
  • YOU USED THAT TO LAUNCH YOU
  • 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:55.170
  • TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY.
  • 00:16:55.170 --> 00:16:56.190
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: WELL,
  • 00:16:56.190 --> 00:16:57.090
  • I GOT PREGNANT AT THE AGE OF 13.
  • 00:16:57.090 --> 00:16:59.180
  • I HAD MY SON AT 14 YEARS OLD.
  • 00:16:59.180 --> 00:17:01.220
  • AND TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT,
  • 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:03.080
  • I DID THAT ALL WHILE BEING
  • 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:04.280
  • THE DAUGHTER
  • 00:17:04.280 --> 00:17:05.170
  • OF BISHOP T.D. JAKES.
  • 00:17:05.170 --> 00:17:07.080
  • AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU
  • 00:17:07.080 --> 00:17:08.060
  • AN IDEA,
  • 00:17:08.060 --> 00:17:08.280
  • AT THAT AGE WHEN YOU GET
  • 00:17:08.280 --> 00:17:10.060
  • PREGNANT,
  • 00:17:10.060 --> 00:17:10.210
  • YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT
  • 00:17:10.210 --> 00:17:11.180
  • THE MAGNITUDE OF PARENTING.
  • 00:17:11.180 --> 00:17:13.150
  • I THOUGHT,
  • 00:17:13.150 --> 00:17:13.290
  • I'M GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:17:13.290 --> 00:17:15.240
  • KENDAL HAGEE: HOW AM I GOING
  • 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:16.200
  • TO TELL DAD AND MOM?
  • 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:17.200
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: EXACTLY.
  • 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:18.130
  • AND WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING
  • 00:17:18.130 --> 00:17:19.070
  • TO THINK ABOUT ME?
  • 00:17:19.070 --> 00:17:20.140
  • AND SO IT WAS THROUGH THE EYES
  • 00:17:20.140 --> 00:17:22.000
  • OF A GIRL THAT I SAW MY
  • 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.070
  • EXPERIENCES AND THE POSSIBILITY
  • 00:17:24.070 --> 00:17:26.110
  • OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE WOULD
  • 00:17:26.110 --> 00:17:27.100
  • THINK ABOUT ME.
  • 00:17:27.100 --> 00:17:28.170
  • AND I THINK THAT THAT FEAR
  • 00:17:28.170 --> 00:17:29.250
  • REALLY SHAPED WHO I BECAME AS
  • 00:17:29.250 --> 00:17:31.290
  • A WOMAN, UNTIL I FINALLY SAID,
  • 00:17:31.290 --> 00:17:33.140
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:17:33.140 --> 00:17:34.030
  • THIS IS WHO I AM.
  • 00:17:34.030 --> 00:17:35.110
  • I'VE GOT TO LOVE HER
  • 00:17:35.110 --> 00:17:36.090
  • AND EMBRACE HER.
  • 00:17:36.090 --> 00:17:37.030
  • AND I HAVE TO TEACH OTHER WOMEN
  • 00:17:37.030 --> 00:17:38.120
  • HOW TO DO THE SAME WITH
  • 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:39.100
  • THEIR STORY.
  • 00:17:39.100 --> 00:17:40.080
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:40.280
  • YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU WROTE
  • 00:17:40.280 --> 00:17:41.250
  • A LETTER TO YOUR DAD.
  • 00:17:41.250 --> 00:17:43.030
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: YEAH.
  • 00:17:43.030 --> 00:17:43.230
  • KENDAL HAGEE: HOW DID YOU --
  • 00:17:43.230 --> 00:17:44.170
  • WHEN THAT FIRST -- JUST LIKE
  • 00:17:44.170 --> 00:17:45.280
  • TAKING THE STEP OF TELLING AND
  • 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:47.260
  • NOT WORRYING ABOUT WHAT OTHERS
  • 00:17:47.260 --> 00:17:49.000
  • WERE THINKING OR EVEN CHURCH
  • 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:50.090
  • PEOPLE,
  • 00:17:50.090 --> 00:17:50.280
  • HOW DID YOU TAKE THAT NEXT
  • 00:17:50.280 --> 00:17:51.210
  • STEP?
  • 00:17:51.210 --> 00:17:52.130
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: WELL,
  • 00:17:52.130 --> 00:17:53.060
  • I HAVE TO TELL YOU MY SISTER
  • 00:17:53.060 --> 00:17:53.280
  • WROTE A LETTER.
  • 00:17:53.280 --> 00:17:54.140
  • KENDAL HAGEE: OH,
  • 00:17:54.140 --> 00:17:55.070
  • SHE WROTE THE LETTER.
  • 00:17:55.070 --> 00:17:55.270
  • YOU HAD HER WRITE THE LETTER
  • 00:17:55.270 --> 00:17:57.000
  • AND GIVE IT.
  • 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:58.050
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: I MEAN I
  • 00:17:58.050 --> 00:17:58.290
  • HAVE FORGIVEN HER,
  • 00:17:58.290 --> 00:17:59.250
  • BUT IT WAS A STRUGGLE.
  • 00:17:59.250 --> 00:18:00.290
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AND SHE'S
  • 00:18:00.290 --> 00:18:01.200
  • WATCHING THIS NOW.
  • 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:02.220
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: JUST SO
  • 00:18:02.220 --> 00:18:03.150
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:18:03.150 --> 00:18:04.060
  • WE'VE MOVED PAST THAT.
  • 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:04.260
  • BUT UM, YEAH,
  • 00:18:04.260 --> 00:18:05.180
  • SO SHE WROTE A LETTER TO MY
  • 00:18:05.180 --> 00:18:06.140
  • PARENTS,
  • 00:18:06.140 --> 00:18:07.030
  • LETTING THEM KNOW THAT I WAS
  • 00:18:07.030 --> 00:18:08.000
  • PREGNANT, WHICH, OF COURSE,
  • 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:09.150
  • YOU KNOW IT HAS WISDOM IN IT.
  • 00:18:09.150 --> 00:18:11.110
  • I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I WOULD TELL
  • 00:18:11.110 --> 00:18:12.270
  • THEM OR WHAT I WOULD SAY.
  • 00:18:12.270 --> 00:18:15.060
  • AND SO THEIR REACTION REALLY
  • 00:18:15.060 --> 00:18:17.200
  • GAVE ME INSIGHT INTO HOW BIG
  • 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.210
  • OF A THING THIS WAS,
  • 00:18:19.210 --> 00:18:20.250
  • BECAUSE IT WASN'T TROUBLE.
  • 00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:22.160
  • THEY WERE CONCERNED.
  • 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:23.160
  • THEY WERE HURT.
  • 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:24.070
  • THEY WERE WORRIED.
  • 00:18:24.070 --> 00:18:25.040
  • THEY WERE AFRAID.
  • 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:26.120
  • AND IT REALLY MADE ME REALIZE
  • 00:18:26.120 --> 00:18:27.270
  • THAT WHILE THE WEIGHT,
  • 00:18:27.270 --> 00:18:29.100
  • THE GRAVITY OF THIS IS GOING
  • 00:18:29.100 --> 00:18:30.270
  • TO CHANGE MY LIFE FOREVER.
  • 00:18:30.270 --> 00:18:32.200
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:33.090
  • AND THEY STOOD BY YOU,
  • 00:18:33.090 --> 00:18:34.090
  • THEY PRAYED WITH YOU,
  • 00:18:34.090 --> 00:18:35.030
  • THEY HELPED YOU,
  • 00:18:35.030 --> 00:18:36.010
  • WHICH LOVING PARENTS AND STUFF.
  • 00:18:36.010 --> 00:18:37.090
  • WHAT COULD YOU TELL SOMEBODY
  • 00:18:37.090 --> 00:18:38.160
  • RIGHT NOW THAT YOU MAY THINK
  • 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:39.260
  • THAT I CAN'T GO ANY FURTHER?
  • 00:18:39.260 --> 00:18:41.110
  • SOMEBODY MAY SAY,
  • 00:18:41.110 --> 00:18:42.030
  • I'M STRUGGLING.
  • 00:18:42.030 --> 00:18:42.230
  • I HAD TEEN PREGNANCY.
  • 00:18:42.230 --> 00:18:43.280
  • MAYBE I WENT THROUGH A DIVORCE.
  • 00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:45.080
  • WHAT COULD YOU TELL THEM THAT
  • 00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:46.170
  • GOD'S NOT THROUGH WITH YOU YET,
  • 00:18:46.170 --> 00:18:47.270
  • HE STILL HAS A PLAN AND PURPOSE
  • 00:18:47.270 --> 00:18:49.060
  • FOR YOU, DON'T SETTLE FOR SAFE?
  • 00:18:49.060 --> 00:18:51.130
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: MOST
  • 00:18:51.130 --> 00:18:52.080
  • CERTAINLY,
  • 00:18:52.080 --> 00:18:53.030
  • I WOULD TELL WHOEVER THAT
  • 00:18:53.030 --> 00:18:54.000
  • PERSON IS THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.060
  • SEE A SMILING FACE DOESN'T MEAN
  • 00:18:55.060 --> 00:18:56.170
  • THAT THERE AREN'T SCARS
  • 00:18:56.170 --> 00:18:57.160
  • BEHIND IT.
  • 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:58.180
  • FOR EVERY PERSON,
  • 00:18:58.180 --> 00:18:59.200
  • THERE IS A CROSS THAT WE'VE HAD
  • 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.110
  • TO ENDURE AND SHAME THAT WE'VE
  • 00:19:01.110 --> 00:19:03.070
  • HAD TO CONFRONT.
  • 00:19:03.070 --> 00:19:04.090
  • BUT ULTIMATELY,
  • 00:19:04.090 --> 00:19:05.090
  • IT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO
  • 00:19:05.090 --> 00:19:06.210
  • SURRENDERING TO THE THOUGHTS
  • 00:19:06.210 --> 00:19:08.110
  • THAT GOD SAYS ABOUT US;
  • 00:19:08.110 --> 00:19:09.140
  • THAT WE'RE FEARFULLY
  • 00:19:09.140 --> 00:19:10.120
  • AND WONDERFULLY MADE;
  • 00:19:10.120 --> 00:19:11.170
  • THAT HE MAKES ALL THINGS WORK
  • 00:19:11.170 --> 00:19:12.240
  • TOGETHER FOR OUR GOOD.
  • 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.260
  • THAT'S WHERE OUR HOPE
  • 00:19:13.260 --> 00:19:15.030
  • AND SALVATION IS,
  • 00:19:15.030 --> 00:19:16.010
  • NOT IN WHAT WE'VE DONE,
  • 00:19:16.010 --> 00:19:17.030
  • NOT IN WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED,
  • 00:19:17.030 --> 00:19:18.120
  • NOT EVEN IN WHO LET US DOWN,
  • 00:19:18.120 --> 00:19:20.000
  • BUT ULTIMATELY WHO GAVE HIS
  • 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:21.160
  • LIFE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE
  • 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:22.140
  • NEW LIFE AGAIN.
  • 00:19:22.140 --> 00:19:23.170
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AMEN.
  • 00:19:23.170 --> 00:19:24.070
  • I KNOW WOMEN THAT ARE WATCHING,
  • 00:19:24.070 --> 00:19:25.020
  • WOMEN ESPECIALLY,
  • 00:19:25.020 --> 00:19:25.240
  • WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER
  • 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.050
  • WOMEN.
  • 00:19:27.050 --> 00:19:27.250
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS, OH,
  • 00:19:27.250 --> 00:19:28.170
  • FOR SURE.
  • 00:19:28.170 --> 00:19:29.030
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WE COMPARE,
  • 00:19:29.030 --> 00:19:29.220
  • GET INSECURE,
  • 00:19:29.220 --> 00:19:30.140
  • YOU KNOW COMPARISON.
  • 00:19:30.140 --> 00:19:31.090
  • AND IN YOUR BOOK, YOU MENTION,
  • 00:19:31.090 --> 00:19:32.110
  • YOU'RE LIKE,
  • 00:19:32.110 --> 00:19:33.000
  • I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT
  • 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:34.010
  • WHAT OTHERS THINK ABOUT ME.
  • 00:19:34.010 --> 00:19:35.100
  • I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE
  • 00:19:35.100 --> 00:19:36.170
  • FORWARD.
  • 00:19:36.170 --> 00:19:37.280
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: AND YOU
  • 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:38.260
  • KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:19:38.260 --> 00:19:39.200
  • I HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED
  • 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:40.100
  • TO REALLY ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN
  • 00:19:40.100 --> 00:19:41.170
  • TO TELL THEIR STORY,
  • 00:19:41.170 --> 00:19:42.290
  • BECAUSE IT GIVES ANOTHER WOMAN
  • 00:19:42.290 --> 00:19:44.140
  • PERMISSION TO EMBRACE HERS.
  • 00:19:44.140 --> 00:19:46.000
  • I LOVE DOING WOMEN'S MINISTRY,
  • 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.290
  • BECAUSE I'M UP THERE,
  • 00:19:47.290 --> 00:19:48.260
  • AND I'M SPEAKING,
  • 00:19:48.260 --> 00:19:49.150
  • AND I'M SAYING THINGS THAT I
  • 00:19:49.150 --> 00:19:50.220
  • THINK ARE GOING TO MAKE ME
  • 00:19:50.220 --> 00:19:51.210
  • LOOK CRAZY,
  • 00:19:51.210 --> 00:19:52.100
  • LIKE I GAVE MY KIDS TRIX
  • 00:19:52.100 --> 00:19:53.200
  • FOR DINNER LAST NIGHT.
  • 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.160
  • DON'T JUDGE ME.
  • 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:55.050
  • AND THEY'RE LIKE, GIRL,
  • 00:19:55.050 --> 00:19:55.270
  • I GAVE THEM CAN OF SOUP.
  • 00:19:55.270 --> 00:19:57.180
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:19:57.180 --> 00:19:59.150
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I LOVE THAT,
  • 00:19:59.150 --> 00:20:00.040
  • BECAUSE YOU CAN BE REAL
  • 00:20:00.040 --> 00:20:01.020
  • WITH WOMEN, BECAUSE US,
  • 00:20:01.020 --> 00:20:01.270
  • AS PASTOR'S WIVES,
  • 00:20:01.270 --> 00:20:03.000
  • WE WANT TO COME ACROSS AS WE'RE
  • 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:04.240
  • JUST LIKE YOU.
  • 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:05.220
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: YEAH,
  • 00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:06.140
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:20:06.140 --> 00:20:07.130
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WE GO THROUGH
  • 00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:08.020
  • THE SAME PAIN AND STRUGGLE.
  • 00:20:08.020 --> 00:20:08.220
  • YOUR BOOK,
  • 00:20:08.220 --> 00:20:09.060
  • WHERE CAN SOMEBODY FIND IT IF
  • 00:20:09.060 --> 00:20:10.000
  • THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IT NOW?
  • 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:10.270
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: AMAZON,
  • 00:20:10.270 --> 00:20:11.260
  • BARNES AND NOBLE,
  • 00:20:11.260 --> 00:20:12.200
  • ANYWHERE BOOKS ARE SOLD.
  • 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:13.130
  • KENDAL HAGEE: SARAH,
  • 00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:14.020
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:20:14.020 --> 00:20:14.260
  • I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO
  • 00:20:14.260 --> 00:20:15.210
  • GRAB THIS BOOK.
  • 00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:16.110
  • IT'S GOING TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:20:16.110 --> 00:20:17.150
  • "DON'T SETTLE FOR SAFE."
  • 00:20:17.150 --> 00:20:18.250
  • SARAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH
  • 00:20:18.250 --> 00:20:19.220
  • FOR JOINING ME.
  • 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:21.010
  • MUSIC
  • 00:20:21.010 --> 00:20:23.200
  • WHEN YOU GIVE TO
  • 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.160
  • SANCTUARY OF HOPE,
  • 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:26.190
  • YOU ARE GIVING A CHILD A CHANCE
  • 00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:27.290
  • AT LIFE AND A HOPEFUL FUTURE.
  • 00:20:27.290 --> 00:20:30.030
  • FOR YOUR GIFT OF $50 OR MORE,
  • 00:20:30.030 --> 00:20:32.020
  • YOU WILL RECEIVE AS A GIFT,
  • 00:20:32.020 --> 00:20:33.100
  • A SPECIAL COFFEE MUG,
  • 00:20:33.100 --> 00:20:34.180
  • AN INSPIRING PRAYER JOURNAL,
  • 00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:36.110
  • AND TOURÈ ROBERTS' BOOK
  • 00:20:36.110 --> 00:20:37.230
  • WHOLENESS.
  • 00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:38.170
  • AND FOR A GIFT OF $150 OR MORE,
  • 00:20:38.170 --> 00:20:40.260
  • YOU WILL RECEIVE ALL THREE
  • 00:20:40.260 --> 00:20:41.280
  • GIFTS ALONG WITH A FRAMED
  • 00:20:41.280 --> 00:20:43.070
  • WALL ART,
  • 00:20:43.070 --> 00:20:44.010
  • FEATURING A FAMILIAR BLESSING
  • 00:20:44.010 --> 00:20:45.110
  • FROM PASTOR HAGEE.
  • 00:20:45.110 --> 00:20:46.250
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: AND NOW MAY
  • 00:20:46.250 --> 00:20:47.210
  • THE LORD BLESS YOU
  • 00:20:47.210 --> 00:20:48.130
  • AND KEEP YOU.
  • 00:20:48.130 --> 00:20:49.150
  • MAY THE LORD MAKE HIS FACE...
  • 00:20:49.150 --> 00:20:50.140
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN
  • 00:20:50.140 --> 00:20:51.160
  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG.
  • 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:54.140
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: THERE ARE
  • 00:20:54.140 --> 00:20:56.020
  • THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN,
  • 00:20:56.020 --> 00:20:58.000
  • WHO ARE REJECTED,
  • 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.020
  • WHO ARE UNWANTED,
  • 00:21:00.020 --> 00:21:02.080
  • WHO ARE BEING SYSTEMATICALLY
  • 00:21:02.080 --> 00:21:03.260
  • MURDERED IN AMERICA'S ABORTION
  • 00:21:03.260 --> 00:21:06.090
  • MILLS.
  • 00:21:06.090 --> 00:21:08.130
  • I SEE THEIR LITTLE HANDS
  • 00:21:08.130 --> 00:21:10.120
  • REACHING TOWARD US,
  • 00:21:10.120 --> 00:21:11.130
  • SAYING, "HELP ME."
  • 00:21:11.130 --> 00:21:14.080
  • HOW CAN WE TURN A DEAF EAR
  • 00:21:14.080 --> 00:21:17.020
  • TO THEIR DESPERATE LITTLE CRIES?
  • 00:21:17.180 --> 00:21:20.180
  • WITH YOUR HELP,
  • 00:21:20.180 --> 00:21:21.190
  • WE CAN GIVE MOTHERS
  • 00:21:21.190 --> 00:21:22.160
  • AND THEIR UNBORN CHILDREN
  • 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.250
  • A FUTURE AND A HOPE,
  • 00:21:23.250 --> 00:21:25.100
  • A SANCTUARY OF HOPE.
  • 00:21:25.100 --> 00:21:27.000
  • FOR YOUR GIFT OF $500 OR MORE
  • 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:28.290
  • TO "SANCTUARY OF HOPE,"
  • 00:21:28.290 --> 00:21:30.140
  • YOU WILL RECEIVE A LIMITED
  • 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:31.170
  • EDITION, FRAMED 16 X 20 PAINTING
  • 00:21:31.170 --> 00:21:34.150
  • ENTITLED "HOPE AND LIBERTY."
  • 00:21:34.150 --> 00:21:36.120
  • AND FOR YOUR GIFT OF $1500
  • 00:21:36.120 --> 00:21:38.060
  • OR MORE, YOU WILL RECEIVE
  • 00:21:38.060 --> 00:21:39.150
  • A CUSTOM BRONZE STATUE
  • 00:21:39.150 --> 00:21:41.070
  • MEASURING OVER A FOOT IN HEIGHT,
  • 00:21:41.070 --> 00:21:43.000
  • HONORING AMERICA AND HER
  • 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.070
  • UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF ISRAEL.
  • 00:21:44.070 --> 00:21:46.180
  • FOR MORE INFORMATION,
  • 00:21:46.180 --> 00:21:47.140
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN
  • 00:21:47.140 --> 00:21:48.240
  • OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE.
  • 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:50.230
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: WILL YOU
  • 00:21:50.230 --> 00:21:51.230
  • HELP ME REACH OUT TO THEM?
  • 00:21:51.270 --> 00:21:54.270
  • MUSIC
  • 00:21:54.270 --> 00:21:57.180
  • MATT HAGEE: WELCOME BACK TO
  • 00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:58.080
  • THE DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:21:58.080 --> 00:21:58.270
  • TOURÈ AND SARAH,
  • 00:21:58.270 --> 00:21:59.190
  • YOU GUYS HAVE SHARED SO MUCH.
  • 00:21:59.190 --> 00:22:01.270
  • AND IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE
  • 00:22:01.270 --> 00:22:03.020
  • REMAINING,
  • 00:22:03.020 --> 00:22:03.230
  • YOU KNOW OUR PROGRAM IS CALLED
  • 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:04.220
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:22:04.220 --> 00:22:05.150
  • AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT,
  • 00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:07.200
  • NOT ONLY DOES GOD MAKE
  • 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:09.040
  • A DIFFERENCE IN EVERY
  • 00:22:09.040 --> 00:22:09.250
  • INDIVIDUAL'S LIFE,
  • 00:22:09.250 --> 00:22:10.260
  • BUT HE WANTS THEM TO BE
  • 00:22:10.260 --> 00:22:12.170
  • A DIFFERENCE MAKER.
  • 00:22:12.170 --> 00:22:14.080
  • WHERE DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE
  • 00:22:14.080 --> 00:22:16.100
  • MAKERS IN YOUR LIFE HELPING YOU
  • 00:22:16.100 --> 00:22:18.050
  • GET TO A POINT OF WHOLENESS,
  • 00:22:18.050 --> 00:22:19.210
  • AND NOT SETTLING FOR SAFE,
  • 00:22:19.210 --> 00:22:21.040
  • AND THEN BEING ABLE
  • 00:22:21.040 --> 00:22:21.260
  • TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS THAT,
  • 00:22:21.260 --> 00:22:23.120
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:22:23.120 --> 00:22:24.040
  • NOW YOU'RE DIFFERENCE MAKERS
  • 00:22:24.040 --> 00:22:25.050
  • IN THEIR LIVES?
  • 00:22:25.050 --> 00:22:25.240
  • HOW DOES THAT --
  • 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:26.110
  • HOW DID THAT PROCESS WORK
  • 00:22:26.110 --> 00:22:27.160
  • FOR YOU?
  • 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.040
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: I THINK
  • 00:22:29.040 --> 00:22:30.090
  • UM -- I THINK IT ALWAYS STARTS
  • 00:22:30.090 --> 00:22:31.100
  • WITH US.
  • 00:22:31.100 --> 00:22:32.080
  • UH, AND I THINK,
  • 00:22:32.080 --> 00:22:33.280
  • YOU KNOW FOR ME,
  • 00:22:33.280 --> 00:22:34.150
  • WHEN GOD TOUCHED ME,
  • 00:22:34.150 --> 00:22:36.180
  • MINISTRY WAS JUST THE ORGANIC
  • 00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:38.170
  • OVERFLOW OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING
  • 00:22:38.170 --> 00:22:39.200
  • IN MY LIFE PERSONALLY.
  • 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:40.250
  • MATT HAGEE: IT'S WHAT YOU
  • 00:22:40.250 --> 00:22:41.220
  • COULDN'T HELP BUT BE.
  • 00:22:41.220 --> 00:22:42.170
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: I COULDN'T HELP
  • 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:43.070
  • BUT BE IT.
  • 00:22:43.070 --> 00:22:43.270
  • AND MY BACKGROUND IS BUSINESS,
  • 00:22:43.270 --> 00:22:44.190
  • AND SO I WAS BIG ON
  • 00:22:44.190 --> 00:22:46.100
  • EFFECTIVENESS.
  • 00:22:46.100 --> 00:22:47.150
  • AND SO I JUST BASICALLY FRAMED
  • 00:22:47.230 --> 00:22:50.230
  • THE ANOINTING AND THE GRACE
  • 00:22:50.230 --> 00:22:52.040
  • THAT WAS ON MY LIFE,
  • 00:22:52.040 --> 00:22:53.030
  • AND THAT FRAMING LOOKED LIKE
  • 00:22:53.030 --> 00:22:54.110
  • A CHURCH; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:22:54.110 --> 00:22:56.090
  • MATT HAGEE: YEAH.
  • 00:22:56.090 --> 00:22:57.010
  • SO YOU TOOK WHAT WAS HAPPENING
  • 00:22:57.010 --> 00:22:58.050
  • IN YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:22:58.050 --> 00:22:58.230
  • AND YOU APPLIED IT
  • 00:22:58.230 --> 00:22:59.130
  • TO YOUR PASSION.
  • 00:22:59.130 --> 00:23:00.220
  • AND YOU KNOW,
  • 00:23:00.220 --> 00:23:01.230
  • BASICALLY THE STRATEGIC
  • 00:23:01.230 --> 00:23:02.200
  • PLANNING,
  • 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:03.080
  • THE STRATEGIC ORGANIZATION
  • 00:23:03.080 --> 00:23:04.130
  • ASPECTS OF BUSINESS,
  • 00:23:04.130 --> 00:23:06.110
  • THEY PUSHED YOU INTO MINISTRY,
  • 00:23:06.110 --> 00:23:08.110
  • BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE GOD WANTED
  • 00:23:08.110 --> 00:23:09.090
  • YOU TO GO.
  • 00:23:09.090 --> 00:23:10.020
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:23:10.020 --> 00:23:11.000
  • MATT HAGEE: AND SO YOU HAVE,
  • 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.090
  • YOU KNOW,
  • 00:23:12.090 --> 00:23:13.000
  • THOSE SKILLS AND TALENTS
  • 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:13.250
  • AND CREATE THAT.
  • 00:23:13.250 --> 00:23:15.180
  • SOMEBODY ELSE WALKS INTO YOUR
  • 00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:16.170
  • LIFE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT;
  • 00:23:16.170 --> 00:23:18.250
  • WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO
  • 00:23:18.250 --> 00:23:19.230
  • GIVE THEM THAT HELPS THEM MOVE
  • 00:23:19.230 --> 00:23:20.290
  • FORWARD IN THEIR PROCESS?
  • 00:23:20.290 --> 00:23:22.060
  • TOURÈ ROBERTS: WELL,
  • 00:23:22.060 --> 00:23:23.000
  • I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT,
  • 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:23.270
  • FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:23:23.270 --> 00:23:24.170
  • BEFORE THEY WERE PLACED
  • 00:23:24.170 --> 00:23:25.120
  • IN THEIR MOTHER'S WOMB,
  • 00:23:25.120 --> 00:23:26.110
  • GOD KNEW THEM,
  • 00:23:26.110 --> 00:23:27.250
  • AND HE ALSO ORDAINED THEM TO DO
  • 00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:29.030
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:23:29.030 --> 00:23:29.260
  • SO THEY WORK REALLY WELL.
  • 00:23:29.260 --> 00:23:32.230
  • IN FACT,
  • 00:23:32.230 --> 00:23:33.080
  • I'M LIKE ANYBODY ELSE AT
  • 00:23:33.080 --> 00:23:34.160
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:35.130
  • AND I BELIEVE THE CLOSER THAT
  • 00:23:35.130 --> 00:23:36.080
  • THEY GET TO GOD,
  • 00:23:36.080 --> 00:23:37.190
  • THE MORE THAT THAT REALITY AND
  • 00:23:37.190 --> 00:23:40.000
  • THAT UNIQUE IDENTITY WILL BE
  • 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.080
  • REVEALED.
  • 00:23:41.080 --> 00:23:42.120
  • MATT HAGEE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:23:42.120 --> 00:23:43.010
  • YOU KNOW SARAH,
  • 00:23:43.010 --> 00:23:44.150
  • YOU MENTIONED DOING WOMEN'S
  • 00:23:44.150 --> 00:23:45.160
  • MINISTRY AND BEING CANDID
  • 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.250
  • AND REAL,
  • 00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:48.090
  • AS I WAS LISTENING TO YOU SHARE
  • 00:23:48.090 --> 00:23:49.070
  • WITH KENDAL ABOUT TRIX.
  • 00:23:49.070 --> 00:23:50.220
  • WE DO BREAKFAST.
  • 00:23:50.220 --> 00:23:51.230
  • WE DO BREAKFAST FOR DINNER
  • 00:23:51.230 --> 00:23:53.180
  • OR DINNER FOR BREAKFAST
  • 00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:54.140
  • ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:23:54.140 --> 00:23:55.090
  • YOU KNOW I MEAN IT'S ALL GOOD.
  • 00:23:55.230 --> 00:23:58.230
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:23:58.230 --> 00:23:59.230
  • I THINK THAT YOU KNOW,
  • 00:23:59.230 --> 00:24:01.130
  • YOU TALK ABOUT THE ASPECT
  • 00:24:01.130 --> 00:24:02.260
  • OF WOMEN'S MINISTRY.
  • 00:24:02.260 --> 00:24:05.130
  • THOSE ARE TRUTHS THAT ARE
  • 00:24:06.060 --> 00:24:09.060
  • ACROSS THE SPECTRUM.
  • 00:24:09.060 --> 00:24:10.040
  • I MEAN YOU KNOW.
  • 00:24:10.040 --> 00:24:11.110
  • HOW DO YOU SEE AUTHENTICITY
  • 00:24:11.110 --> 00:24:13.170
  • LIKE THAT MAKING A DIFFERENCE
  • 00:24:13.170 --> 00:24:14.260
  • IN THE LIVES OF REAL PEOPLE,
  • 00:24:14.260 --> 00:24:16.170
  • BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FEEL LIKE
  • 00:24:16.170 --> 00:24:18.070
  • THEY'RE -- THEY'RE --
  • 00:24:18.070 --> 00:24:19.220
  • WHEN THEY DO THEIR BEST,
  • 00:24:19.220 --> 00:24:20.170
  • THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH?
  • 00:24:20.170 --> 00:24:22.000
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: YEAH,
  • 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:22.270
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:24:22.270 --> 00:24:23.210
  • WELL, WHEN YOU GET ON A STAGE,
  • 00:24:23.210 --> 00:24:24.170
  • EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT YOU,
  • 00:24:24.170 --> 00:24:25.170
  • AND THEY'RE WONDERING,
  • 00:24:25.170 --> 00:24:26.050
  • WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY
  • 00:24:26.050 --> 00:24:27.010
  • THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE MY LIFE?
  • 00:24:27.010 --> 00:24:28.120
  • AND I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST
  • 00:24:28.120 --> 00:24:29.110
  • THINGS THAT I LIKE TO DO IS
  • 00:24:29.110 --> 00:24:30.200
  • ESTABLISH THAT I'M JUST LIKE
  • 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:31.230
  • YOU, UP HERE.
  • 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:33.010
  • BUT AS WE'RE SPEAKING
  • 00:24:33.010 --> 00:24:34.120
  • AND HAVING THIS CONVERSATION,
  • 00:24:34.120 --> 00:24:35.260
  • THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHIFT
  • 00:24:35.260 --> 00:24:36.260
  • WHERE IT'S NO LONGER ME,
  • 00:24:36.260 --> 00:24:38.020
  • AND IT'S GOD'S GRACE AND GOD'S
  • 00:24:38.020 --> 00:24:39.090
  • ANOINTING FLOWING THROUGH ME
  • 00:24:39.090 --> 00:24:40.230
  • AND TOUCHING YOUR HEART.
  • 00:24:40.230 --> 00:24:42.050
  • AND IF I CAN ALLOW THAT GATEWAY
  • 00:24:42.050 --> 00:24:43.240
  • OF CHANGE TO HAPPEN THROUGH ME,
  • 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.050
  • IMAGINE HOW YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR
  • 00:24:45.050 --> 00:24:46.140
  • COMMUNITY, YOUR WORKPLACE,
  • 00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:47.260
  • YOUR MARRIAGES, YOUR HOME,
  • 00:24:47.260 --> 00:24:49.140
  • BY BECOMING A WORKPLACE,
  • 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:50.190
  • JUST BY BEING WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:24:50.190 --> 00:24:52.200
  • SO OUR AUTHENTICITY
  • 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:54.030
  • AND HIS ANOINTING IS WHERE
  • 00:24:54.030 --> 00:24:55.070
  • ALL THE POWER IS.
  • 00:24:55.070 --> 00:24:56.180
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,
  • 00:24:56.180 --> 00:24:57.100
  • AND YOU KNOW AS YOU TALK ABOUT
  • 00:24:57.100 --> 00:24:58.250
  • CREATING SOME COMMON GROUND
  • 00:24:58.250 --> 00:25:00.220
  • WITH THE AUDIENCE,
  • 00:25:00.220 --> 00:25:01.180
  • AS THEY LISTEN TO YOU,
  • 00:25:01.180 --> 00:25:03.020
  • THEY PUT A TRUST IN YOUR
  • 00:25:03.020 --> 00:25:04.160
  • PERSON.
  • 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:05.220
  • AND THEN BASED ON THEIR TRUST
  • 00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:07.140
  • IN YOUR PERSON,
  • 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:08.150
  • GOD IS ABLE TO PULL HIS POWER
  • 00:25:08.150 --> 00:25:10.170
  • THROUGH YOU BACK INTO THEM.
  • 00:25:10.170 --> 00:25:12.150
  • AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
  • 00:25:12.150 --> 00:25:13.280
  • FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND,
  • 00:25:13.280 --> 00:25:14.230
  • YOU KNOW IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:25:14.230 --> 00:25:16.250
  • DO THE BEST YOU CAN WITH WHAT
  • 00:25:16.250 --> 00:25:18.040
  • YOU'VE GOT AND WHERE YOU'RE AT.
  • 00:25:18.040 --> 00:25:19.150
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: YEAH.
  • 00:25:19.150 --> 00:25:20.070
  • MATT HAGEE: AND LET GOD HONOR
  • 00:25:20.070 --> 00:25:21.000
  • THAT.
  • 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:21.200
  • AND HE'LL MAKE YOUR TOMORROW.
  • 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.110
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:25:23.110 --> 00:25:24.120
  • MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW WHAT
  • 00:25:24.120 --> 00:25:25.000
  • I'M SAYING?
  • 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:25.230
  • I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE
  • 00:25:25.230 --> 00:25:26.150
  • SACRIFICE THEIR TOMORROW
  • 00:25:26.150 --> 00:25:27.070
  • BECAUSE THEY'RE BEATING
  • 00:25:27.070 --> 00:25:27.270
  • THEMSELVES UP OVER WHAT THEY
  • 00:25:27.270 --> 00:25:28.210
  • DIDN'T DO TODAY.
  • 00:25:28.210 --> 00:25:29.230
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: CERTAINLY.
  • 00:25:29.230 --> 00:25:30.200
  • AND I THINK ANOTHER THING FOR
  • 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:31.160
  • PEOPLE TO REMEMBER IS THAT
  • 00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:32.230
  • YOUR PURPOSE MAY NOT LOOK LIKE
  • 00:25:32.230 --> 00:25:34.240
  • TELEVISION AND STAGES.
  • 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.080
  • YOUR PURPOSE COULD BE JUST HOW
  • 00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:37.190
  • YOU RAISE THAT CHILD,
  • 00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:38.210
  • HOW YOU POUR INTO YOUR HUSBAND,
  • 00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:41.060
  • HOW YOU HELP YOUR MOTHER
  • 00:25:41.060 --> 00:25:42.170
  • TO HAVE PERSPECTIVE ABOUT
  • 00:25:42.170 --> 00:25:43.160
  • HER LIFE.
  • 00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:44.050
  • SO MINISTRY COMES IN ALL SHAPES
  • 00:25:44.050 --> 00:25:45.130
  • AND FORMS.
  • 00:25:45.130 --> 00:25:46.050
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL YOUR DAD
  • 00:25:46.050 --> 00:25:46.270
  • AND MY DAD,
  • 00:25:46.270 --> 00:25:47.280
  • THEY'RE VERY CLOSE FRIENDS.
  • 00:25:47.280 --> 00:25:49.190
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: YES,
  • 00:25:49.190 --> 00:25:50.080
  • THEY ARE.
  • 00:25:50.080 --> 00:25:51.020
  • MATT HAGEE: AND IT'S SOMETHING
  • 00:25:51.020 --> 00:25:51.260
  • THAT YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO
  • 00:25:51.260 --> 00:25:53.020
  • BECOME AWARE OF UNTIL YOU SEE
  • 00:25:53.020 --> 00:25:53.290
  • THEM PRIVATELY.
  • 00:25:53.290 --> 00:25:55.220
  • AND I CAN TELL YOU WHERE
  • 00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:56.230
  • THEIR FRIENDSHIP WAS FORGED.
  • 00:25:56.230 --> 00:25:57.280
  • ONE, IT'S IN THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:25:57.280 --> 00:25:59.020
  • BUT TWO,
  • 00:25:59.020 --> 00:26:00.140
  • THE FIRST TIME MY FATHER WALKED
  • 00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:01.160
  • INTO YOUR FATHER'S OFFICE,
  • 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:02.250
  • HE SAW A LARGE PORTRAIT
  • 00:26:02.250 --> 00:26:04.270
  • OF YOUR GRANDMOTHER.
  • 00:26:04.270 --> 00:26:06.170
  • AND MY GRANDMOTHER,
  • 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:09.200
  • MY FATHER'S MOTHER,
  • 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.000
  • SHE WAS THE CHISEL IN GOD'S
  • 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:12.210
  • HAND THAT SHAPED THE MAN OF GOD
  • 00:26:12.210 --> 00:26:14.250
  • THAT PEOPLE CALL PASTOR HAGEE.
  • 00:26:14.250 --> 00:26:16.270
  • AND YOU KNOW THE MINISTRY
  • 00:26:16.270 --> 00:26:19.110
  • THAT YOUR GRANDMOTHER HAD TO
  • 00:26:19.110 --> 00:26:20.200
  • THE WORLD,
  • 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:21.080
  • THE MINISTRY THAT MY
  • 00:26:21.080 --> 00:26:22.080
  • GRANDMOTHER HAD TO THE WORLD,
  • 00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:23.240
  • IT MIGHT NOT HAVE EVER TAKEN
  • 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:25.010
  • THEM TO THE STAGES
  • 00:26:25.010 --> 00:26:25.270
  • AND PLATFORMS THAT THEIR SONS
  • 00:26:25.270 --> 00:26:27.140
  • AND THEIR DESCENDANTS
  • 00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:28.100
  • HAVE STOOD UPON.
  • 00:26:28.100 --> 00:26:29.190
  • BUT HAD THEY NOT BEEN
  • 00:26:29.190 --> 00:26:30.240
  • DIFFERENCE MAKERS IN THE LIVES
  • 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:32.210
  • OF THOSE TWO PEOPLE,
  • 00:26:32.210 --> 00:26:34.080
  • WHERE WOULD WE BE SITTING AND
  • 00:26:34.080 --> 00:26:35.090
  • WHAT WOULD WE BE DOING TODAY?
  • 00:26:35.090 --> 00:26:36.240
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: YEAH.
  • 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.210
  • I'M GLAD WE'LL NEVER FIND OUT.
  • 00:26:37.210 --> 00:26:38.250
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:40.050
  • MATT HAGEE: I COULDN'T AGREE
  • 00:26:40.050 --> 00:26:40.220
  • WITH YOU MORE.
  • 00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:41.270
  • YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO
  • 00:26:41.270 --> 00:26:42.190
  • MAKING A DIFFERENCE,
  • 00:26:42.190 --> 00:26:43.250
  • I ASSURE YOU GOD WANTS TO USE
  • 00:26:43.250 --> 00:26:45.210
  • YOU TO ACCOMPLISH EXACTLY THAT.
  • 00:26:45.210 --> 00:26:48.020
  • I DON'T CARE HOW BROKEN YOU ARE
  • 00:26:48.020 --> 00:26:49.070
  • TODAY;
  • 00:26:49.070 --> 00:26:49.260
  • HE HAS A BREAKTHROUGH
  • 00:26:49.260 --> 00:26:50.190
  • IN YOUR FUTURE.
  • 00:26:50.190 --> 00:26:51.230
  • I DON'T CARE HOW EMPTY YOU FEEL;
  • 00:26:51.230 --> 00:26:53.080
  • HE HAS A PLAN TO PROSPER YOU,
  • 00:26:53.080 --> 00:26:55.070
  • NOT TO HARM YOU.
  • 00:26:55.070 --> 00:26:56.130
  • HE ALSO WANTS YOU TO BE BLESSED
  • 00:26:56.130 --> 00:26:58.020
  • AND ABUNDANTLY BLESSED IN
  • 00:26:58.020 --> 00:26:59.200
  • THE WHOLENESS OF HIS PROMISES
  • 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.240
  • FOR YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:02.270
  • I WANT YOU TO LOOK INTO TOURÈ
  • 00:27:02.270 --> 00:27:04.180
  • AND SARAH JAKES ROBERTS' WORK.
  • 00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:06.040
  • I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION
  • 00:27:06.040 --> 00:27:07.060
  • TO THE WORDS THAT THEY SAY,
  • 00:27:07.060 --> 00:27:08.100
  • BECAUSE THEY ARE LIFE-GIVING
  • 00:27:08.100 --> 00:27:09.160
  • WORDS,
  • 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:10.040
  • AND THEY'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE
  • 00:27:10.040 --> 00:27:10.240
  • IN YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:11.190
  • GIVING YOU THE CHANCE TO MAKE
  • 00:27:11.190 --> 00:27:12.210
  • A DIFFERENCE IN OTHERS.
  • 00:27:12.210 --> 00:27:14.000
  • THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART
  • 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:14.240
  • OF OUR PROGRAM, TOURÈ.
  • 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.060
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THANK YOU, SARAH.
  • 00:27:16.060 --> 00:27:17.220
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: THANK YOU.
  • 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:18.160
  • MATT HAGEE: GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:19.100
  • SARAH, I DON'T KNOW WHY
  • 00:27:19.100 --> 00:27:20.020
  • IT TOOK ME TO SO LONG TO TALK,
  • 00:27:20.020 --> 00:27:21.060
  • BUT I'M SO GLAD WE DID TODAY.
  • 00:27:21.060 --> 00:27:22.140
  • SARAH JAKES ROBERTS: THANK YOU.
  • 00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:23.090
  • MATT HAGEE: GOD BLESS.
  • 00:27:23.090 --> 00:27:24.000
  • WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
  • 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:24.290
  • MUSIC
  • 00:27:26.040 --> 00:27:29.040