Charlie Duke; the 10th and youngest man to walk on the moon joins Eric to share his memories from the historic Apollo 16 mission. Duke also talks about how after his trip to the moon; God changed his life.
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The Eric Metaxas Radio Show | Charlie Duke | May 27, 2022
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- [MUSIC] >> ERIC METAXAS: THIS
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- >> ERIC METAXAS: THIS PROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN
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- PROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN PART BY CARSHIELD, GIVING
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- PART BY CARSHIELD, GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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- THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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- OWNERS PEACE OF MIND. [MUSIC]
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- [MUSIC] [SMOOCH]
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- [SMOOCH] [WHOOSH]
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- [WHOOSH] [DOOR SLAMMING]
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- [DOOR SLAMMING] [BING]
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- [BING] [REVVING, SCREECHING]
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- [REVVING, SCREECHING] [PLOP]
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- [PLOP] [WHOOSH]
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- [WHOOSH] >> MALE: HEY.
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- >> MALE: HEY. [BOINK]
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- [BOINK] [ENGINE REVVING]
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- [CHEERS] ♪ THE ERIC METAXAS RADIO SHOW ♪
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- >> ERIC: HOLY COW, FOLKS.
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- >> ERIC: HOLY COW, FOLKS. I'M SO EXCITED I'M ABOUT
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- I'M SO EXCITED I'M ABOUT TO BURST.
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- TO BURST. WE HAVE A WHOLE ROOM OF
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- WE HAVE A WHOLE ROOM OF PEOPLE ABOUT TO TURN BLUE
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- PEOPLE ABOUT TO TURN BLUE OVER HERE.
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- BECAUSE I'VE GOT A GUEST
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- BECAUSE I'VE GOT A GUEST RIGHT NOW WHO CLAIMS, WE
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- RIGHT NOW WHO CLAIMS, WE DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE NO
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- DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE NO PROOF, TO HAVE WALKED ON
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- PROOF, TO HAVE WALKED ON THE MOON 50 YEARS AGO.
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- THE MOON 50 YEARS AGO. GENERAL CHARLES DUKE,
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- GENERAL CHARLES DUKE, WELCOME TO THIS PROGRAM.
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- WELCOME TO THIS PROGRAM. >> CHARLIE: THANK YOU VERY
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- >> CHARLIE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ERIC.
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- MUCH, ERIC. THERE'S A LOT OF PROOF
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- THERE'S A LOT OF PROOF THAT WE REALLY LANDED ON
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- THAT WE REALLY LANDED ON THE MOON.
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- THE MOON. (LAUGHTER)
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- (LAUGHTER) >> ERIC: I HAPPEN TO
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- >> ERIC: I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE YOU DID.
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- BELIEVE YOU DID. >> CHARLIE: JUST TEASING.
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- >> CHARLIE: JUST TEASING. >> ERIC: I HAPPEN TO
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- >> ERIC: I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT YOU DID.
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- BELIEVE THAT YOU DID. AND I'M SO EXCITED AND
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- AND I'M SO EXCITED AND HONORED TO BE TALKING TO
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- HONORED TO BE TALKING TO YOU, NOT TO JUST BE
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- YOU, NOT TO JUST BE TALKING TO YOU, BUT TO BE
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- TALKING TO YOU, BUT TO BE TALKING TO YOU ON THE 50TH
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- TALKING TO YOU ON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF YOUR HAVING
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- ANNIVERSARY OF YOUR HAVING SET FOOT ON THE LUNAR
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- SET FOOT ON THE LUNAR SURFACE, AND NOT JUST
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- SURFACE, AND NOT JUST THAT, BUT AS THE YOUNGEST
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- THAT, BUT AS THE YOUNGEST MAN EVER TO WALK ON THE
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- MAN EVER TO WALK ON THE MOON, YES?
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- MOON, YES? >> CHARLIE: YES, THAT'S
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- >> CHARLIE: YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
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- CORRECT. I WAS 36 WHEN I STEPPED ON
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- I WAS 36 WHEN I STEPPED ON TO THE MOON.
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- TO THE MOON. I'M 86 AND I'M STILL THE
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- I'M 86 AND I'M STILL THE YOUNGEST MAN THAT WALKED
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- YOUNGEST MAN THAT WALKED ON THE MOON.
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- ON THE MOON. (LAUGHTER)
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- (LAUGHTER) >> ERIC: THAT'S THE
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- >> ERIC: THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING OF ALL.
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- FUNNIEST THING OF ALL. YOU ARE TO THIS DAY THE
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- YOU ARE TO THIS DAY THE YOUNGEST MAN WHO WALKED ON
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- YOUNGEST MAN WHO WALKED ON THE MOON.
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- THE MOON. >> CHARLIE: YES, SIR.
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- >> CHARLIE: YES, SIR. >> ERIC: YOU RETAINED THE
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- >> ERIC: YOU RETAINED THE TITLE.
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- TITLE. >> CHARLIE: I RETAINED THE
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- >> CHARLIE: I RETAINED THE TITLE.
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- TITLE. BUT HOPEFULLY BEFORE I
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- BUT HOPEFULLY BEFORE I DIE, I WILL RELINQUISH
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- DIE, I WILL RELINQUISH THAT TO SOMEONE FROM
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- THAT TO SOMEONE FROM ARTEMIS, SO ONE OF THE
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- ARTEMIS, SO ONE OF THE YOUNGER ASTRONAUTS CAN
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- YOUNGER ASTRONAUTS CAN CLAIM THEY ARE THE
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- CLAIM THEY ARE THE YOUNGEST ON THE MOON.
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- YOUNGEST ON THE MOON. >> ERIC: I WASN'T
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- >> ERIC: I WASN'T EXPECTING TO GO THERE SO
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- EXPECTING TO GO THERE SO QUICKLY, BUT DO YOU THINK
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- QUICKLY, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT IN YOUR LIFETIME IT'S
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- THAT IN YOUR LIFETIME IT'S POSSIBLE?
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- POSSIBLE? I MEAN, I'VE REALLY JUST
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- I MEAN, I'VE REALLY JUST LOST HOPE THAT ANYBODY
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- LOST HOPE THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO GO TO THE MOON.
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- WANTS TO GO TO THE MOON. YOU HAPPEN TO BE ON THE
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- YOU HAPPEN TO BE ON THE INSIDE.
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- INSIDE. SO YOU WOULD KNOW.
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- >> CHARLIE: WELL, I'M NOT
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- >> CHARLIE: WELL, I'M NOT OFFICIALLY WITH NASA
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- OFFICIALLY WITH NASA ANYMORE, BUT I STAY
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- ANYMORE, BUT I STAY CURRENT WITH WHAT'S GOING
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- CURRENT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.
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- THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM,
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- THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO LAND
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- WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO LAND SOMEBODY ON THE MOON BY
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- SOMEBODY ON THE MOON BY THE END OF THE DECADE IS
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- THE END OF THE DECADE IS PROCEEDING VERY, VERY
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- PROCEEDING VERY, VERY WELL.
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- WELL. AND WE HAVE A ROCKET
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- AND WE HAVE A ROCKET CALLED THE SLS ON THE
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- CALLED THE SLS ON THE LAUNCHPAD.
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- LAUNCHPAD. IF THAT CHECKOUT GOES
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- IF THAT CHECKOUT GOES WELL, WE'LL HAVE AN
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- WELL, WE'LL HAVE AN UNMANNED LAUNCH SOMETIME
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- UNMANNED LAUNCH SOMETIME THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL START
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- THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL START DOING TEST FLIGHTS WITH
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- DOING TEST FLIGHTS WITH THE COMMAND MODULE, AND
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- THE COMMAND MODULE, AND WE'LL SEND SOMEBODY TO THE
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- WE'LL SEND SOMEBODY TO THE MOON.
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- MOON. PROBABLY NOT ONTO THE
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- PROBABLY NOT ONTO THE MOON, BUT AT LEAST TO THE
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- MOON, BUT AT LEAST TO THE MOON.
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- MOON. >> ERIC: I WANT TO GO BACK
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- >> ERIC: I WANT TO GO BACK IN TIME.
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- IN TIME. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO GO
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- IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO GO BACK 50 YEARS.
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- BACK 50 YEARS. I REMEMBER, I WAS A FOURTH
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- I REMEMBER, I WAS A FOURTH GRADER HERE IN NEW YORK
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- GRADER HERE IN NEW YORK CITY IN THE SPRING OF
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- CITY IN THE SPRING OF 1972, WHICH SUDDENLY IS 50
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- 1972, WHICH SUDDENLY IS 50 YEARS AGO.
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- YEARS AGO. YOU ALREADY, BY THIS POINT
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- YOU ALREADY, BY THIS POINT IN 1972, HAD SPENT YEARS
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- IN 1972, HAD SPENT YEARS IN THE SPACE PROGRAM AND
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- IN THE SPACE PROGRAM AND YOU HAD A SEMINAL ROLE IN
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- YOU HAD A SEMINAL ROLE IN THE APOLLO 11 PROGRAM.
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- THE APOLLO 11 PROGRAM. DID YOU HAVE AMBITIONS?
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- DID YOU HAVE AMBITIONS? BECAUSE WE KNOW A COUPLE
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- BECAUSE WE KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER YOU GOT TO
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- OF YEARS LATER YOU GOT TO WALK ON THE MOON.
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- WALK ON THE MOON. AT WHAT POINT IN YOUR
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- AT WHAT POINT IN YOUR CAREER DID YOU THINK THIS
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- CAREER DID YOU THINK THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT
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- WAS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HAPPEN FOR YOU?
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- HAPPEN FOR YOU? >> CHARLIE: I WAS A YOUNG
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- >> CHARLIE: I WAS A YOUNG LIEUTENANT IN 1965.
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- LIEUTENANT IN 1965. I JUST GRADUATED FROM TEST
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- I JUST GRADUATED FROM TEST PILOT SCHOOL.
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- PILOT SCHOOL. I HAD MET SOME ASTRONAUTS
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- I HAD MET SOME ASTRONAUTS WHEN I WAS GETTING MY
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- WHEN I WAS GETTING MY MASTER'S DEGREE AT MIT A
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- MASTER'S DEGREE AT MIT A FEW YEARS BEFORE, AND AND
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- FEW YEARS BEFORE, AND AND THEY WERE ENTHUSIASTIC.
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- THEY WERE ENTHUSIASTIC. I SAID, "MAN, THAT WOULD
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- I SAID, "MAN, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT JOB."
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- BE A GREAT JOB." TEST PILOTS SCHOOL WAS REALLY
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- TEST PILOTS SCHOOL WAS REALLY SORT OF THE FOCUS OF
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- SORT OF THE FOCUS OF GETTING TO NASA.
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- GETTING TO NASA. SO, ABOUT A MONTH LATER IN
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- SO, ABOUT A MONTH LATER IN SEPTEMBER OF 1965, I
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- SEPTEMBER OF 1965, I APPLIED AND WAS SELECTED
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- APPLIED AND WAS SELECTED AND BECAME AN ASTRONAUT IN
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- AND BECAME AN ASTRONAUT IN AUGUST OF-- SORRY, APRIL
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- AUGUST OF-- SORRY, APRIL OF 1966.
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- OF 1966. >> ERIC: TAKE US TO THE
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- >> ERIC: TAKE US TO THE MOMENT OF ENTERING LUNAR
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- MOMENT OF ENTERING LUNAR ORBIT, LANDING.
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- ORBIT, LANDING. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF
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- THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS MOST OF US WILL
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- THINGS MOST OF US WILL NEVER GET TO EXPERIENCE.
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- NEVER GET TO EXPERIENCE. >> CHARLIE: ENTRY INTO
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- >> CHARLIE: ENTRY INTO LUNAR ORBIT OCCURRED
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- LUNAR ORBIT OCCURRED SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE WE
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- SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE WE ATTEMPTED THE LANDING ON
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- ATTEMPTED THE LANDING ON THE MOON.
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- THE MOON. IT WAS VERY DRAMATIC.
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- IT WAS VERY DRAMATIC. YOU ENTER LUNAR ORBIT IN
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- YOU ENTER LUNAR ORBIT IN DARKNESS.
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- DARKNESS. SO YOU CAN'T SEE THE
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- SO YOU CAN'T SEE THE SURFACE, BUT MISSION
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- SURFACE, BUT MISSION CONTROL KNEW YOU WERE ON
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- CONTROL KNEW YOU WERE ON THE RIGHT TRAJECTORY.
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- THE RIGHT TRAJECTORY. YOU ENTERED LUNAR ORBIT,
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- YOU ENTERED LUNAR ORBIT, SLOWED DOWN, GOT INTO
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- SLOWED DOWN, GOT INTO ORBIT AND THEN THE SUN
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- ORBIT AND THEN THE SUN CAME UP REAL RAPIDLY AND
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- CAME UP REAL RAPIDLY AND CAME AROUND SO EARTH WISE
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- CAME AROUND SO EARTH WISE FOR THE FIRST TIME, VERY
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- FOR THE FIRST TIME, VERY DRAMATIC.
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- DRAMATIC. AND THEN WE STARTED
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- AND THEN WE STARTED PREPARING FOR THE NEXT DAY
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- PREPARING FOR THE NEXT DAY TO GET READY TO LAND ON
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- TO GET READY TO LAND ON THE MOON.
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- THE MOON. SO WE HAD A REST PERIOD.
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- SO WE HAD A REST PERIOD. WE ATE A COUPLE OF MEALS.
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- WE ATE A COUPLE OF MEALS. ONE BEFORE WE WENT TO
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- ONE BEFORE WE WENT TO SLEEP AND ONE WHEN WE WOKE
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- SLEEP AND ONE WHEN WE WOKE UP.
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- UP. AND JOHN YOUNG AND I PUT
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- AND JOHN YOUNG AND I PUT ON OUR SPACE SUITS AND
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- ON OUR SPACE SUITS AND FLOATED OVER INTO
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- FLOATED OVER INTO LUNAR MODULE TO START
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- LUNAR MODULE TO START OUR PREPARATION.
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- OUR PREPARATION. >> ERIC: LET ME GET THIS
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- >> ERIC: LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.
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- STRAIGHT. BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE, LIKE
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- BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE, LIKE ME, WE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN
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- ME, WE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN AND TRY TO TAKE THIS IN.
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- AND TRY TO TAKE THIS IN. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE NOT
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- OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE NOT YET DETACHED THE LUNAR
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- YET DETACHED THE LUNAR MODULE FROM-- WHAT DO YOU
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- MODULE FROM-- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
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- CALL IT? >> CHARLIE: COMMAND
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- >> CHARLIE: COMMAND MODULE.
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- MODULE. >> ERIC: SO THE COMMAND
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- >> ERIC: SO THE COMMAND MODULE, THERE'S THREE OF
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- MODULE, THERE'S THREE OF YOU, BUT AT SOME POINT,
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- YOU, BUT AT SOME POINT, TWO OF YOU, YOU AND
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- TWO OF YOU, YOU AND JOHN YOUNG, ARE GOING TO
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- JOHN YOUNG, ARE GOING TO GET INTO THE LUNAR MODULE.
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- GET INTO THE LUNAR MODULE. YOU'RE GOING TO DETACH.
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- YOU'RE GOING TO DETACH. AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT
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- AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT HAPPEN?
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- >> CHARLIE: THAT HAPPENED
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- >> CHARLIE: THAT HAPPENED ALMOST A DAY LATER AFTER
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- ALMOST A DAY LATER AFTER WE ENTERED ORBIT.
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- WE ENTERED ORBIT. SO WE ORBITED THE MOON,
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- SO WE ORBITED THE MOON, CORRECTED OUR TRAJECTORY A
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- CORRECTED OUR TRAJECTORY A FEW TIMES, AND WHEN THE
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- FEW TIMES, AND WHEN THE TIME CAME, WE GOT INTO THE
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- TIME CAME, WE GOT INTO THE LUNAR MODULE.
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- JOHN AND I FLOATED OVER IN
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- JOHN AND I FLOATED OVER IN OUR SPACE SUITS.
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- OUR SPACE SUITS. WE CLOSED THE HATCHES AND
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- WE CLOSED THE HATCHES AND THEN WE BEGAN TO POWER UP.
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- THEN WE BEGAN TO POWER UP. THAT TOOK SIX OR SEVEN
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- THAT TOOK SIX OR SEVEN HOURS.
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- HOURS. WE WERE STILL ATTACHED AT
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- WE WERE STILL ATTACHED AT THAT POINT.
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- THAT POINT. WHEN WE GOT ALL READY TO
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- WHEN WE GOT ALL READY TO GO, IT CAME TIME FOR
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- GO, IT CAME TIME FOR RELEASE AND MATTINGLY
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- RELEASE AND MATTINGLY PUNCHED A BUTTON.
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- PUNCHED A BUTTON. WE RELEASED AND WE FLOATED
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- WE RELEASED AND WE FLOATED A POD.
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- A POD. AT THAT POINT WE WERE
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- AT THAT POINT WE WERE FLYING FREE.
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- FLYING FREE. WE WERE READY TO GO ALL
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- WE WERE READY TO GO ALL POWERED UP.
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- POWERED UP. THIS WAS SEVERAL HOURS
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- THIS WAS SEVERAL HOURS BEFORE THE LANDING.
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- BEFORE THE LANDING. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD A
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- UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD A PROBLEM AN HOUR BEFORE THE
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- PROBLEM AN HOUR BEFORE THE LANDING.
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- LANDING. WE WERE ON THE FAR SIDE OF
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- WE WERE ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE MOON.
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- THE MOON. AND WE HAD TO DELAY THE
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- AND WE HAD TO DELAY THE LANDING.
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- LANDING. IT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE ABORT
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- IT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE ABORT THE LANDING.
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- THE LANDING. MISSION CONTROL CAME TO
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- MISSION CONTROL CAME TO THE RESCUE AND SIX HOURS
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- THE RESCUE AND SIX HOURS LATER WE WERE GOING TO GO.
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- LATER WE WERE GOING TO GO. >> ERIC: WHAT WERE THE
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- >> ERIC: WHAT WERE THE ISSUES YOU WERE HAVING?
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- ISSUES YOU WERE HAVING? WERE THEY WEATHER RELATED?
- 00:06:51.233 --> 00:06:51.700
- WERE THEY WEATHER RELATED? >> CHARLIE: NO.
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- >> CHARLIE: NO. THERE WAS NO WEATHER ON
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- THERE WAS NO WEATHER ON THE MOON.
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- THE MOON. >> ERIC: THAT WAS A JOKE.
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- >> ERIC: THAT WAS A JOKE. I GOT YOU, CHARLIE DUKE.
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- I GOT YOU, CHARLIE DUKE. >> CHARLIE: OKAY.
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- >> CHARLIE: OKAY. >> ERIC: SO WHAT HAPPENED
- 00:06:57.005 --> 00:06:59.307
- >> ERIC: SO WHAT HAPPENED THAT MADE YOU POSSIBLY NOT
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- THAT MADE YOU POSSIBLY NOT BE ABLE TO LAND?
- 00:07:01.243 --> 00:07:03.512
- BE ABLE TO LAND? >> CHARLIE: IT WASN'T
- 00:07:03.578 --> 00:07:04.012
- >> CHARLIE: IT WASN'T ANYTHING IN OUR
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- ANYTHING IN OUR SPACECRAFT.
- 00:07:05.347 --> 00:07:07.148
- SPACECRAFT. IT WAS IN HIS SPACECRAFT,
- 00:07:07.215 --> 00:07:07.716
- IT WAS IN HIS SPACECRAFT, THE COMMAND MODULE.
- 00:07:07.782 --> 00:07:08.550
- THE COMMAND MODULE. AND HE HAD TO CHANGE HIS
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- AND HE HAD TO CHANGE HIS ORBIT ON THE FAR SIDE OF
- 00:07:11.686 --> 00:07:12.521
- ORBIT ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE MOON TO GET IN A
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- THE MOON TO GET IN A PROPER PHASE SO IF WE
- 00:07:13.989 --> 00:07:16.324
- PROPER PHASE SO IF WE ABORTED, HE WOULD BE OUT
- 00:07:16.391 --> 00:07:19.394
- ABORTED, HE WOULD BE OUT IN FRONT OF US AND WE
- 00:07:19.461 --> 00:07:20.762
- IN FRONT OF US AND WE COULD JOIN UP FROM BEHIND.
- 00:07:20.829 --> 00:07:22.230
- COULD JOIN UP FROM BEHIND. SO THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG
- 00:07:22.297 --> 00:07:24.032
- SO THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE MAIN ENGINE.
- 00:07:24.099 --> 00:07:24.566
- WITH THE MAIN ENGINE. HE COULDN'T DO THAT
- 00:07:24.633 --> 00:07:25.867
- HE COULDN'T DO THAT MANEUVER.
- 00:07:25.934 --> 00:07:26.668
- MANEUVER. THAT MEANT NO LANDING ON
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- THAT MEANT NO LANDING ON THE NEXT HOUR.
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- THE NEXT HOUR. WE ORBITED THE MOON FOR
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- WE ORBITED THE MOON FOR TWO REVOLUTIONS BEFORE
- 00:07:31.573 --> 00:07:33.074
- TWO REVOLUTIONS BEFORE MISSION CONTROL SAID, WE
- 00:07:33.141 --> 00:07:34.309
- MISSION CONTROL SAID, WE KNOW WHAT'S WRONG, WE
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- KNOW WHAT'S WRONG, WE CAN'T FIX IT.
- 00:07:36.111 --> 00:07:37.579
- CAN'T FIX IT. BUT HERE IS A WORK AROUND.
- 00:07:37.646 --> 00:07:38.213
- BUT HERE IS A WORK AROUND. THEY GAVE HIM A WORK
- 00:07:38.280 --> 00:07:40.048
- THEY GAVE HIM A WORK AROUND AND SO THEY TOLD
- 00:07:40.115 --> 00:07:40.982
- AROUND AND SO THEY TOLD US, IF THIS IS A
- 00:07:41.049 --> 00:07:42.083
- US, IF THIS IS A SUCCESSFUL BURN, YOU'LL GO
- 00:07:42.150 --> 00:07:44.786
- SUCCESSFUL BURN, YOU'LL GO FOR THE NEXT LANDING.
- 00:07:44.853 --> 00:07:45.987
- FOR THE NEXT LANDING. AND BY THE WAY, THAT WAS
- 00:07:46.054 --> 00:07:47.889
- AND BY THE WAY, THAT WAS THE LAST OPPORTUNITY WE
- 00:07:47.956 --> 00:07:51.293
- THE LAST OPPORTUNITY WE HAD SO THAT AS THE MOON
- 00:07:51.359 --> 00:07:54.029
- HAD SO THAT AS THE MOON DRIFTED OUT FROM UNDER US,
- 00:07:54.095 --> 00:07:54.829
- DRIFTED OUT FROM UNDER US, WE COULD GET BACK TO OUR
- 00:07:54.896 --> 00:07:55.931
- WE COULD GET BACK TO OUR LANDING SPOT.
- 00:07:55.997 --> 00:07:57.766
- LANDING SPOT. ANYWAY, SO HE DID THE
- 00:07:57.832 --> 00:07:58.233
- ANYWAY, SO HE DID THE BURN.
- 00:07:58.300 --> 00:07:59.267
- BURN. HE WAS SUCCESSFUL.
- 00:07:59.334 --> 00:08:00.201
- HE WAS SUCCESSFUL. WE CAME AROUND AND THEN WE
- 00:08:00.268 --> 00:08:01.703
- WE CAME AROUND AND THEN WE STARTED OUR RESET SIX
- 00:08:01.770 --> 00:08:04.439
- STARTED OUR RESET SIX HOURS BEHIND SCHEDULE.
- 00:08:04.506 --> 00:08:06.074
- HOURS BEHIND SCHEDULE. >> ERIC: IT'S A CHILLING
- 00:08:06.141 --> 00:08:06.608
- >> ERIC: IT'S A CHILLING THING FOR MOST OF US
- 00:08:06.675 --> 00:08:07.776
- THING FOR MOST OF US CIVILIANS TO THINK ABOUT
- 00:08:07.842 --> 00:08:09.578
- CIVILIANS TO THINK ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF CRAWLING
- 00:08:09.644 --> 00:08:12.013
- THE CONCEPT OF CRAWLING INTO THE LUNAR MODULE AND
- 00:08:12.080 --> 00:08:14.749
- INTO THE LUNAR MODULE AND DETACHING FROM THE THING
- 00:08:14.816 --> 00:08:17.719
- DETACHING FROM THE THING THAT BROUGHT YOU THERE
- 00:08:17.786 --> 00:08:19.621
- THAT BROUGHT YOU THERE FROM PLANET EARTH.
- 00:08:19.688 --> 00:08:21.890
- FROM PLANET EARTH. AND NAVIGATING THAT LITTLE
- 00:08:21.957 --> 00:08:23.792
- AND NAVIGATING THAT LITTLE THING DOWN TO THE SURFACE
- 00:08:23.858 --> 00:08:25.927
- THING DOWN TO THE SURFACE OF THE MOON, AND THEN
- 00:08:25.994 --> 00:08:27.329
- OF THE MOON, AND THEN HAVING TO NAVIGATE IT BACK
- 00:08:27.395 --> 00:08:27.929
- HAVING TO NAVIGATE IT BACK UP AND COUPLE AGAIN.
- 00:08:27.996 --> 00:08:30.131
- UP AND COUPLE AGAIN. IT'S REALLY A STAGGERING
- 00:08:30.198 --> 00:08:32.200
- IT'S REALLY A STAGGERING THING.
- 00:08:32.267 --> 00:08:34.002
- THING. I IMAGINE THAT BECAUSE
- 00:08:34.069 --> 00:08:35.437
- I IMAGINE THAT BECAUSE THIS HAD BEEN DONE A
- 00:08:35.503 --> 00:08:36.571
- THIS HAD BEEN DONE A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, IT
- 00:08:36.638 --> 00:08:37.505
- COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, IT WAS MAYBE NOT
- 00:08:37.572 --> 00:08:38.540
- WAS MAYBE NOT NERVE-RACKING AS IT WAS
- 00:08:38.607 --> 00:08:39.741
- NERVE-RACKING AS IT WAS WHEN NEIL AND BUZZ DID IT.
- 00:08:39.808 --> 00:08:42.077
- WHEN NEIL AND BUZZ DID IT. NONETHELESS, YOU HAD NEVER
- 00:08:42.143 --> 00:08:43.878
- NONETHELESS, YOU HAD NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.
- 00:08:43.945 --> 00:08:45.647
- DONE THIS BEFORE. WHAT DID THAT FEEL LIKE,
- 00:08:45.714 --> 00:08:47.782
- WHAT DID THAT FEEL LIKE, THAT MOMENT OF BEING
- 00:08:47.849 --> 00:08:49.918
- THAT MOMENT OF BEING DETACHED AND SUDDENLY
- 00:08:49.985 --> 00:08:51.720
- DETACHED AND SUDDENLY DRIFTING DOWN IN THIS
- 00:08:51.786 --> 00:08:52.287
- DRIFTING DOWN IN THIS SPIDERY LOOKING THING?
- 00:08:52.354 --> 00:08:55.790
- >> CHARLIE: IT WAS A
- 00:08:56.925 --> 00:08:57.626
- >> CHARLIE: IT WAS A FEELING OF WE'RE READY TO
- 00:08:57.692 --> 00:08:58.793
- FEELING OF WE'RE READY TO GO AND THANK GOODNESS WE
- 00:08:58.860 --> 00:08:59.694
- GO AND THANK GOODNESS WE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY.
- 00:08:59.761 --> 00:09:01.997
- GOT THE OPPORTUNITY. AND SO WE WERE PRIME FOR
- 00:09:02.063 --> 00:09:02.831
- AND SO WE WERE PRIME FOR LANDING.
- 00:09:02.897 --> 00:09:06.901
- YOUR FOCUS WAS DOING THE
- 00:09:07.602 --> 00:09:08.069
- YOUR FOCUS WAS DOING THE CHECKLIST RIGHT AND
- 00:09:08.136 --> 00:09:08.536
- CHECKLIST RIGHT AND GETTING EVERYTHING READY
- 00:09:08.603 --> 00:09:09.170
- GETTING EVERYTHING READY TO GO.
- 00:09:09.237 --> 00:09:10.739
- TO GO. AS YOU STARTED DOWN TO
- 00:09:10.805 --> 00:09:11.206
- AS YOU STARTED DOWN TO LAND IN A PROPER PLACE AT
- 00:09:11.272 --> 00:09:13.708
- LAND IN A PROPER PLACE AT THE PROPER MOMENT IN THE
- 00:09:13.775 --> 00:09:14.609
- THE PROPER MOMENT IN THE PROPER TIME.
- 00:09:14.676 --> 00:09:15.910
- PROPER TIME. AND SO, YOUR FOCUS WAS
- 00:09:15.977 --> 00:09:19.714
- AND SO, YOUR FOCUS WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD TO
- 00:09:19.781 --> 00:09:20.915
- ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD TO THE LANDING.
- 00:09:20.982 --> 00:09:21.850
- THE LANDING. AND AS YOU STARTED YOUR
- 00:09:21.916 --> 00:09:23.385
- AND AS YOU STARTED YOUR DESCENT, THEN IT TURNED TO
- 00:09:23.451 --> 00:09:25.220
- DESCENT, THEN IT TURNED TO MAKING SURE YOU KEPT THE
- 00:09:25.286 --> 00:09:26.354
- MAKING SURE YOU KEPT THE SPACECRAFT RUNNING
- 00:09:26.421 --> 00:09:27.322
- SPACECRAFT RUNNING CORRECTLY AND WITH GREAT
- 00:09:27.389 --> 00:09:28.590
- CORRECTLY AND WITH GREAT ANTICIPATION.
- 00:09:28.657 --> 00:09:30.291
- ANTICIPATION. WE WERE ON OUR WAY DOWN.
- 00:09:30.358 --> 00:09:32.260
- WE WERE ON OUR WAY DOWN. AND WHAT A FEELING OF
- 00:09:32.327 --> 00:09:35.730
- AND WHAT A FEELING OF RELEASE ESPECIALLY AFTER
- 00:09:35.797 --> 00:09:36.898
- RELEASE ESPECIALLY AFTER WE HAD BEEN DELAYED FOR
- 00:09:36.965 --> 00:09:38.433
- WE HAD BEEN DELAYED FOR SIX HOURS.
- 00:09:38.500 --> 00:09:39.401
- SIX HOURS. WE WERE PRIMED.
- 00:09:39.467 --> 00:09:40.735
- WE WERE PRIMED. WE WERE READY TO GO AND WE
- 00:09:40.802 --> 00:09:42.303
- WE WERE READY TO GO AND WE WERE ON HIGH ALERT, IF YOU
- 00:09:42.370 --> 00:09:44.205
- WERE ON HIGH ALERT, IF YOU WILL.
- 00:09:44.272 --> 00:09:44.806
- WILL. WE HAD THE LANDING
- 00:09:44.873 --> 00:09:46.074
- WE HAD THE LANDING EMERGENCY IN THE
- 00:09:46.141 --> 00:09:47.475
- EMERGENCY IN THE SPACECRAFT.
- 00:09:47.542 --> 00:09:48.043
- SPACECRAFT. BUT WE HAD NONE.
- 00:09:48.109 --> 00:09:49.377
- BUT WE HAD NONE. WE STARTED DOWN.
- 00:09:49.444 --> 00:09:49.844
- WE STARTED DOWN. A LITTLE COMMUNICATION
- 00:09:49.911 --> 00:09:51.146
- A LITTLE COMMUNICATION PROBLEM, BUT THEY FIXED
- 00:09:51.212 --> 00:09:52.047
- PROBLEM, BUT THEY FIXED THAT.
- 00:09:52.113 --> 00:09:52.881
- THAT. SO THE DESCENT WENT ALMOST
- 00:09:52.947 --> 00:09:54.616
- SO THE DESCENT WENT ALMOST FLAWLESSLY, IF YOU WILL.
- 00:09:54.683 --> 00:09:57.552
- FLAWLESSLY, IF YOU WILL. AND JOHN PICKED OUT A
- 00:09:57.619 --> 00:09:59.120
- AND JOHN PICKED OUT A WONDERFUL LANDING SITE.
- 00:09:59.187 --> 00:09:59.988
- WONDERFUL LANDING SITE. >> ERIC: NO BOULDERS THIS
- 00:10:00.055 --> 00:10:01.956
- >> ERIC: NO BOULDERS THIS TIME?
- 00:10:02.023 --> 00:10:04.025
- TIME? WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO
- 00:10:04.092 --> 00:10:04.592
- WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO A BREAK.
- 00:10:04.659 --> 00:10:06.194
- A BREAK. BUT, FOLKS, I KNOW YOU ARE
- 00:10:06.261 --> 00:10:07.328
- BUT, FOLKS, I KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING ANY PLACE.
- 00:10:07.395 --> 00:10:08.129
- NOT GOING ANY PLACE. I'M TALKING TO CHARLIE
- 00:10:08.196 --> 00:10:09.230
- I'M TALKING TO CHARLIE DUKE.
- 00:10:09.297 --> 00:10:11.032
- DUKE. THIS IS THE 50TH
- 00:10:11.099 --> 00:10:11.633
- THIS IS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DAY HE
- 00:10:11.700 --> 00:10:12.200
- ANNIVERSARY OF THE DAY HE WALKED ON THE MOON.
- 00:10:12.267 --> 00:10:13.034
- WALKED ON THE MOON. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
- 00:10:13.101 --> 00:10:15.203
- WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. ♪ MUSIC ♪
- 00:10:15.270 --> 00:10:17.000
- WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. ♪ MUSIC ♪
- 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:18.240
- ♪ MUSIC ♪ ♪ MUSIC ♪
- 00:10:18.307 --> 00:10:22.878
- ♪ MUSIC ♪ FOLKS, WELCOME BACK.
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- FOLKS, WELCOME BACK. I'M TALKING TO GENERAL
- 00:10:23.446 --> 00:10:24.380
- I'M TALKING TO GENERAL CHARLIE DUKE WHO 50 YEARS
- 00:10:24.447 --> 00:10:26.048
- CHARLIE DUKE WHO 50 YEARS AGO WALKED ON THE SURFACE
- 00:10:26.115 --> 00:10:28.184
- AGO WALKED ON THE SURFACE OF MOON.
- 00:10:28.250 --> 00:10:29.085
- OF MOON. BEFORE WE GO FARTHER,
- 00:10:29.151 --> 00:10:30.920
- BEFORE WE GO FARTHER, CHARLIE, LET'S GO BACK
- 00:10:30.986 --> 00:10:31.787
- CHARLIE, LET'S GO BACK JUST 50 YEARS AGO TO THIS
- 00:10:31.854 --> 00:10:35.491
- JUST 50 YEARS AGO TO THIS DAY.
- 00:10:35.558 --> 00:10:36.492
- DAY. YOU LAND ON THE LUNAR
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- YOU LAND ON THE LUNAR SURFACE.
- 00:10:39.795 --> 00:10:40.162
- SURFACE. WHO GOT OUT FIRST, WAS IT
- 00:10:40.229 --> 00:10:41.664
- WHO GOT OUT FIRST, WAS IT YOU OR YOUR COLLEAGUE,
- 00:10:41.731 --> 00:10:42.164
- YOU OR YOUR COLLEAGUE, JOHN?
- 00:10:42.231 --> 00:10:43.766
- JOHN? >> CHARLIE: THE COMMANDER
- 00:10:43.833 --> 00:10:45.468
- >> CHARLIE: THE COMMANDER ALWAYS GETS OUT FIRST.
- 00:10:45.534 --> 00:10:46.969
- ALWAYS GETS OUT FIRST. THE REASON IS, HE IS ON
- 00:10:47.036 --> 00:10:49.071
- THE REASON IS, HE IS ON THE LEFT SIDE.
- 00:10:49.138 --> 00:10:51.774
- THE LUNAR MODULE PILOT'S
- 00:10:52.708 --> 00:10:53.142
- THE LUNAR MODULE PILOT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
- 00:10:53.209 --> 00:10:54.510
- ON THE RIGHT SIDE. AND THE HATCH IS BETWEEN US.
- 00:10:54.577 --> 00:10:56.545
- AND THE HATCH IS BETWEEN US. THAT EXITS YOU TO THE
- 00:10:56.612 --> 00:10:57.113
- THAT EXITS YOU TO THE LUNAR SURFACE.
- 00:10:57.179 --> 00:10:59.815
- LUNAR SURFACE. SO I OPENED THE HATCH, BUT
- 00:10:59.882 --> 00:11:00.716
- SO I OPENED THE HATCH, BUT THE HATCH SWINGS TOWARDS ME.
- 00:11:00.783 --> 00:11:03.385
- SO THAT LEAVES THE
- 00:11:04.253 --> 00:11:04.653
- SO THAT LEAVES THE COMMANDER A CLEAR PATH TO
- 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:05.454
- COMMANDER A CLEAR PATH TO GET OUT.
- 00:11:05.521 --> 00:11:06.722
- GET OUT. AND THEN ONCE HE'S OUT,
- 00:11:06.789 --> 00:11:08.624
- AND THEN ONCE HE'S OUT, YOU WAIT 10 MINUTES, SHUT
- 00:11:08.691 --> 00:11:09.558
- YOU WAIT 10 MINUTES, SHUT THE HATCH, AND THEN CLIMB
- 00:11:09.625 --> 00:11:11.293
- THE HATCH, AND THEN CLIMB OVER-- WALK OVER TO HIS
- 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:13.863
- OVER-- WALK OVER TO HIS SIDE AND OPEN THE HATCH
- 00:11:13.929 --> 00:11:16.065
- SIDE AND OPEN THE HATCH AND YOU HAVE A CLEAR PATH
- 00:11:16.132 --> 00:11:17.666
- AND YOU HAVE A CLEAR PATH TO GET OUT.
- 00:11:17.733 --> 00:11:18.868
- TO GET OUT. SO THE COMMANDER ON THE
- 00:11:18.934 --> 00:11:19.502
- SO THE COMMANDER ON THE LEFT SIDE, JUST DUE TO THE
- 00:11:19.568 --> 00:11:21.537
- LEFT SIDE, JUST DUE TO THE WAY THE HATCH OPENED, HE
- 00:11:21.604 --> 00:11:22.938
- WAY THE HATCH OPENED, HE GETS OUT FIRST.
- 00:11:23.005 --> 00:11:23.506
- GETS OUT FIRST. >> ERIC: SO YOU WERE THE
- 00:11:23.572 --> 00:11:24.840
- >> ERIC: SO YOU WERE THE TENTH MAN TO WALK ON THE
- 00:11:24.907 --> 00:11:26.308
- TENTH MAN TO WALK ON THE MOON, 12 MEN WALKED ON THE
- 00:11:26.375 --> 00:11:28.144
- MOON, 12 MEN WALKED ON THE MOON AND YOU WERE NUMBER
- 00:11:28.210 --> 00:11:29.345
- MOON AND YOU WERE NUMBER 10 AND THE YOUNGEST.
- 00:11:29.411 --> 00:11:30.479
- 10 AND THE YOUNGEST. >> CHARLIE: THAT'S
- 00:11:30.546 --> 00:11:31.313
- >> CHARLIE: THAT'S CORRECT, BY FOUR MONTHS.
- 00:11:31.380 --> 00:11:32.448
- CORRECT, BY FOUR MONTHS. IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL BEING
- 00:11:32.515 --> 00:11:34.450
- IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL BEING THE YOUNGEST, BUT BEING
- 00:11:34.517 --> 00:11:35.818
- THE YOUNGEST, BUT BEING THE TENTH MAN WAS A BIG
- 00:11:35.885 --> 00:11:37.086
- THE TENTH MAN WAS A BIG DEAL FOR ME.
- 00:11:37.153 --> 00:11:37.820
- DEAL FOR ME. I MEAN, I'M ON THE MOON
- 00:11:37.887 --> 00:11:38.888
- I MEAN, I'M ON THE MOON AND I TRAINED TWO YEARS
- 00:11:38.954 --> 00:11:40.422
- AND I TRAINED TWO YEARS FOR THIS.
- 00:11:40.489 --> 00:11:42.958
- FOR THIS. I WAS SO EXCITED.
- 00:11:43.025 --> 00:11:43.425
- I WAS SO EXCITED. >> ERIC: WHAT IT IS LIKE
- 00:11:43.492 --> 00:11:44.560
- >> ERIC: WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WALK DOWN THAT LADDER
- 00:11:44.627 --> 00:11:47.730
- TO WALK DOWN THAT LADDER AND TO PUT YOUR FOOT,
- 00:11:47.797 --> 00:11:49.732
- AND TO PUT YOUR FOOT, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN ANY
- 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:50.699
- WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN ANY PLACE BUT ON THE EARTH, ON
- 00:11:50.766 --> 00:11:52.134
- PLACE BUT ON THE EARTH, ON THE SURFACE OF THE MOON?
- 00:11:52.201 --> 00:11:53.803
- THE SURFACE OF THE MOON? CAN YOU REMEMBER THAT
- 00:11:53.869 --> 00:11:54.770
- CAN YOU REMEMBER THAT MOMENT?
- 00:11:54.837 --> 00:11:56.338
- MOMENT? >> CHARLIE: I REMEMBER,
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- >> CHARLIE: I REMEMBER, YOU HOP.
- 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.774
- YOU HOP. YOU GO DOWN THE LADDER
- 00:11:58.841 --> 00:12:00.376
- YOU GO DOWN THE LADDER FACING THE LUNAR MODULE.
- 00:12:00.442 --> 00:12:01.911
- FACING THE LUNAR MODULE. SO YOU ARE BASICALLY
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- SO YOU ARE BASICALLY HOPPING DOWN AND THE
- 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:04.713
- HOPPING DOWN AND THE MOON'S BEHIND YOU AND YOU
- 00:12:04.780 --> 00:12:05.815
- MOON'S BEHIND YOU AND YOU JUST POP DOWN
- 00:12:05.881 --> 00:12:06.348
- JUST POP DOWN STEP-BY-STEP, AND THEN YOU
- 00:12:06.415 --> 00:12:08.017
- STEP-BY-STEP, AND THEN YOU DROP DOWN TO THE FOOT PAD
- 00:12:08.083 --> 00:12:08.751
- DROP DOWN TO THE FOOT PAD AND YOU HOLD ON AND TURN
- 00:12:08.818 --> 00:12:11.620
- AND YOU HOLD ON AND TURN AROUND AND YOU TAKE THAT
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- AROUND AND YOU TAKE THAT FIRST STEP.
- 00:12:12.655 --> 00:12:15.124
- FIRST STEP. AND IT WAS SO EXCITING.
- 00:12:15.191 --> 00:12:16.859
- AND IT WAS SO EXCITING. "I'M ON THE MOON,
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- "I'M ON THE MOON, I'M ON THE MOON."
- 00:12:18.260 --> 00:12:20.596
- I'M ON THE MOON." IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE
- 00:12:20.663 --> 00:12:21.230
- IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE KID AT CHRISTMAS
- 00:12:21.297 --> 00:12:21.664
- KID AT CHRISTMAS AND HOLIDAY AND BIRTHDAY
- 00:12:21.730 --> 00:12:22.198
- AND HOLIDAY AND BIRTHDAY AND EVERYTHING, ALL THESE
- 00:12:22.264 --> 00:12:23.098
- AND EVERYTHING, ALL THESE WONDERFUL MEMORIES WERE
- 00:12:23.165 --> 00:12:25.301
- WONDERFUL MEMORIES WERE FLOATING IN AND THE
- 00:12:25.367 --> 00:12:26.302
- FLOATING IN AND THE ENTHUSIASM AND EXCITEMENT.
- 00:12:26.368 --> 00:12:26.936
- ENTHUSIASM AND EXCITEMENT. THE WONDER.
- 00:12:27.002 --> 00:12:28.938
- THE WONDER. THE EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE
- 00:12:29.004 --> 00:12:32.641
- THE EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE YOU WERE HAVING, IT WAS
- 00:12:32.708 --> 00:12:33.576
- YOU WERE HAVING, IT WAS ALMOST OVERWHELMING.
- 00:12:33.642 --> 00:12:34.944
- ALMOST OVERWHELMING. BUT, THAT EXCITEMENT AND
- 00:12:35.010 --> 00:12:38.714
- BUT, THAT EXCITEMENT AND ADVENTURE NEVER LEFT ME,
- 00:12:38.781 --> 00:12:40.482
- ADVENTURE NEVER LEFT ME, ERIC.
- 00:12:40.549 --> 00:12:42.651
- ERIC. IT WAS AMAZING TO ME,
- 00:12:42.718 --> 00:12:45.855
- IT WAS AMAZING TO ME, EVERY PLACE WE WENT WE SAW
- 00:12:45.921 --> 00:12:47.489
- EVERY PLACE WE WENT WE SAW SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
- 00:12:47.556 --> 00:12:48.490
- SOMETHING DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT SHAPES,
- 00:12:48.557 --> 00:12:51.894
- DIFFERENT SHAPES, DIFFERENT COLORS OF--
- 00:12:51.961 --> 00:12:52.795
- DIFFERENT COLORS OF-- >> ERIC: WHEN YOU SAY EVERY
- 00:12:52.862 --> 00:12:53.529
- >> ERIC: WHEN YOU SAY EVERY PLACE, WE HAVE TO GET TO
- 00:12:53.596 --> 00:12:56.232
- PLACE, WE HAVE TO GET TO THE-- WHAT DID THEY CALL
- 00:12:56.298 --> 00:12:59.401
- THE-- WHAT DID THEY CALL THE VEHICLE-- WHAT DID YOU
- 00:12:59.468 --> 00:12:59.969
- THE VEHICLE-- WHAT DID YOU CALL THE VEHICLE YOU DROVE
- 00:13:00.035 --> 00:13:00.536
- CALL THE VEHICLE YOU DROVE AROUND IN?
- 00:13:00.603 --> 00:13:00.970
- AROUND IN? >> CHARLIE: LUNAR ROVER.
- 00:13:01.036 --> 00:13:03.472
- >> CHARLIE: LUNAR ROVER. >> ERIC: OKAY, SO, HOW DO
- 00:13:03.539 --> 00:13:04.039
- >> ERIC: OKAY, SO, HOW DO YOU GET THE LUNAR ROVER?
- 00:13:04.106 --> 00:13:04.940
- YOU GET THE LUNAR ROVER? IS THAT IN THE GLOVE
- 00:13:05.007 --> 00:13:07.009
- IS THAT IN THE GLOVE COMPARTMENT?
- 00:13:07.076 --> 00:13:07.509
- COMPARTMENT? DO YOU PULL IT OUT?
- 00:13:07.576 --> 00:13:08.577
- DO YOU PULL IT OUT? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU LAND
- 00:13:08.644 --> 00:13:09.812
- I MEAN, HOW DO YOU LAND THIS LUNAR MODULE?
- 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:11.180
- THIS LUNAR MODULE? WHERE IS THE LUNAR ROVER?
- 00:13:11.247 --> 00:13:13.816
- WHERE IS THE LUNAR ROVER? I'VE NEVER REALLY ASKED
- 00:13:13.883 --> 00:13:14.617
- I'VE NEVER REALLY ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE.
- 00:13:14.683 --> 00:13:16.886
- THIS QUESTION BEFORE. SO NOW I'M ASKING YOU.
- 00:13:16.952 --> 00:13:17.987
- SO NOW I'M ASKING YOU. >> CHARLIE: OKAY.
- 00:13:18.053 --> 00:13:18.754
- >> CHARLIE: OKAY. YOU ARE CLIMBING DOWN THE
- 00:13:18.821 --> 00:13:19.855
- YOU ARE CLIMBING DOWN THE LADDER AND THERE IS A
- 00:13:19.922 --> 00:13:21.056
- LADDER AND THERE IS A COMPARTMENT ON THE RIGHT
- 00:13:21.123 --> 00:13:22.491
- COMPARTMENT ON THE RIGHT SIDE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE
- 00:13:22.558 --> 00:13:24.493
- SIDE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE SPACECRAFT.
- 00:13:24.560 --> 00:13:25.194
- SPACECRAFT. AND THE ROVER IS FOLDED
- 00:13:25.261 --> 00:13:27.596
- AND THE ROVER IS FOLDED UP.
- 00:13:27.663 --> 00:13:28.631
- UP. THE FRONT END FOLDS OVER
- 00:13:28.697 --> 00:13:29.832
- THE FRONT END FOLDS OVER ON THE CENTER, AND THE
- 00:13:29.899 --> 00:13:30.933
- ON THE CENTER, AND THE REAR WHEELS FOLD OVER ON
- 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:32.368
- REAR WHEELS FOLD OVER ON THE CENTER, AND IT'S JUST
- 00:13:32.434 --> 00:13:33.535
- THE CENTER, AND IT'S JUST BOLTED TO THE OUTSIDE OF
- 00:13:33.602 --> 00:13:34.470
- BOLTED TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE SPACECRAFT.
- 00:13:34.536 --> 00:13:35.938
- THE SPACECRAFT. AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME
- 00:13:36.005 --> 00:13:38.507
- AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE.
- 00:13:38.574 --> 00:13:40.042
- MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE. SO YOU START PULLING THESE
- 00:13:40.109 --> 00:13:41.677
- SO YOU START PULLING THESE CABLES DOWN ON ONE SIDE
- 00:13:41.744 --> 00:13:43.212
- CABLES DOWN ON ONE SIDE AND DOWN THE OTHER FROM
- 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.147
- AND DOWN THE OTHER FROM THE LUNAR SURFACE AND IT
- 00:13:45.214 --> 00:13:46.048
- THE LUNAR SURFACE AND IT JACKS IT OUT.
- 00:13:46.115 --> 00:13:47.449
- JACKS IT OUT. WHEN IT GETS TO BE ABOUT
- 00:13:47.516 --> 00:13:48.584
- WHEN IT GETS TO BE ABOUT 45-DEGREES, ALL THE CABLES
- 00:13:48.651 --> 00:13:49.952
- 45-DEGREES, ALL THE CABLES IT PULLS THE PINS AND IT
- 00:13:50.019 --> 00:13:53.455
- IT PULLS THE PINS AND IT UNFOLDS LIKE A LANDING
- 00:13:53.522 --> 00:13:54.924
- UNFOLDS LIKE A LANDING GEAR ON AN AIRPLANE.
- 00:13:54.990 --> 00:13:55.791
- GEAR ON AN AIRPLANE. >> ERIC: IT SOUNDS LIKE
- 00:13:55.858 --> 00:13:56.592
- >> ERIC: IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME PRETTY GOOD
- 00:13:56.659 --> 00:13:57.726
- SOME PRETTY GOOD ENGINEERING, WHOEVER PUT
- 00:13:57.793 --> 00:13:58.928
- ENGINEERING, WHOEVER PUT THAT TOGETHER.
- 00:13:58.994 --> 00:13:59.495
- THAT TOGETHER. >> CHARLIE: YOU ARE RIGHT.
- 00:13:59.561 --> 00:14:00.596
- >> CHARLIE: YOU ARE RIGHT. IT WAS PERFECT.
- 00:14:00.663 --> 00:14:03.032
- IT WAS PERFECT. >> ERIC: BEFORE WE GO
- 00:14:03.098 --> 00:14:03.499
- >> ERIC: BEFORE WE GO FARTHER, CHARLIE, YOU ARE
- 00:14:03.565 --> 00:14:04.133
- FARTHER, CHARLIE, YOU ARE A MAN OF FAITH.
- 00:14:04.199 --> 00:14:07.236
- A MAN OF FAITH. WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN IN
- 00:14:07.303 --> 00:14:07.770
- WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE?
- 00:14:07.836 --> 00:14:09.305
- YOUR LIFE? IT WAS NOT DURING THE TIME
- 00:14:09.371 --> 00:14:09.872
- IT WAS NOT DURING THE TIME WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 50
- 00:14:09.939 --> 00:14:11.106
- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO.
- 00:14:11.173 --> 00:14:12.141
- YEARS AGO. IT WAS SUBSEQUENT TO THAT?
- 00:14:12.207 --> 00:14:13.175
- IT WAS SUBSEQUENT TO THAT? >> CHARLIE: YES, IT DID.
- 00:14:13.242 --> 00:14:15.611
- >> CHARLIE: YES, IT DID. I GET A QUESTION A LOT,
- 00:14:15.678 --> 00:14:17.146
- I GET A QUESTION A LOT, SAID, "DID GOING TO THE
- 00:14:17.212 --> 00:14:19.715
- SAID, "DID GOING TO THE MOON CHANGE YOUR LIFE?"
- 00:14:19.782 --> 00:14:20.582
- MOON CHANGE YOUR LIFE?" IT DID NOT.
- 00:14:20.649 --> 00:14:23.352
- IT DID NOT. BUT I CAME BACK, I HAD
- 00:14:23.419 --> 00:14:23.886
- BUT I CAME BACK, I HAD ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD.
- 00:14:23.953 --> 00:14:24.853
- ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD. WE WERE CHURCH GOERS, TOOK
- 00:14:24.920 --> 00:14:26.388
- WE WERE CHURCH GOERS, TOOK OUR FAMILY EVERY SUNDAY TO
- 00:14:26.455 --> 00:14:28.223
- OUR FAMILY EVERY SUNDAY TO OUR LITTLE EPISCOPAL
- 00:14:28.290 --> 00:14:31.694
- OUR LITTLE EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN LAPORTE, TEXAS,
- 00:14:31.760 --> 00:14:34.596
- CHURCH IN LAPORTE, TEXAS, BUT I WAS FRUSTRATED.
- 00:14:34.663 --> 00:14:36.732
- BUT I WAS FRUSTRATED. I WAS 36 WHEN I LANDED ON
- 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:37.633
- I WAS 36 WHEN I LANDED ON THE MOON.
- 00:14:37.700 --> 00:14:38.367
- THE MOON. AND NOW I'VE CLIMBED THE
- 00:14:38.434 --> 00:14:39.635
- AND NOW I'VE CLIMBED THE LADDER OF SUCCESS, NOW
- 00:14:39.702 --> 00:14:40.703
- LADDER OF SUCCESS, NOW WHAT?
- 00:14:40.769 --> 00:14:41.136
- WHAT? I HAD NO PEACE.
- 00:14:41.203 --> 00:14:42.237
- I HAD NO PEACE. OUR MARRIAGE WAS FALLING
- 00:14:42.304 --> 00:14:42.905
- OUR MARRIAGE WAS FALLING APART.
- 00:14:42.972 --> 00:14:45.808
- APART. FORTUNATELY SOME PEOPLE
- 00:14:45.874 --> 00:14:46.976
- FORTUNATELY SOME PEOPLE CAME -- IN 1975 SOME
- 00:14:47.042 --> 00:14:48.410
- CAME -- IN 1975 SOME PEOPLE CAME TO OUR LITTLE
- 00:14:48.477 --> 00:14:50.045
- PEOPLE CAME TO OUR LITTLE PARISH CHURCH AND THEY
- 00:14:50.112 --> 00:14:51.413
- PARISH CHURCH AND THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT
- 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:52.581
- STARTED TALKING ABOUT JESUS.
- 00:14:52.648 --> 00:14:54.249
- JESUS. THEIR PERSONAL TESTIMONY.
- 00:14:54.316 --> 00:14:55.217
- THEIR PERSONAL TESTIMONY. >> ERIC: IN AN EPISCOPAL
- 00:14:55.284 --> 00:14:56.285
- >> ERIC: IN AN EPISCOPAL CHURCH.
- 00:14:56.352 --> 00:14:56.685
- CHURCH. THAT IS UNHEARD OF.
- 00:14:56.752 --> 00:14:57.753
- THAT IS UNHEARD OF. >> CHARLIE: BACK THEN IT
- 00:14:57.820 --> 00:14:59.755
- >> CHARLIE: BACK THEN IT WAS OKAY.
- 00:14:59.822 --> 00:15:01.724
- WAS OKAY. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S HARD.
- 00:15:01.790 --> 00:15:03.425
- BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S HARD. WE-- MY WIFE LISTENED
- 00:15:03.492 --> 00:15:07.129
- WE-- MY WIFE LISTENED INTENTLY.
- 00:15:07.196 --> 00:15:08.397
- INTENTLY. SHE WAS ON THE VERGE OF
- 00:15:08.464 --> 00:15:10.265
- SHE WAS ON THE VERGE OF SUICIDE.
- 00:15:10.332 --> 00:15:10.833
- SUICIDE. THIS WAS IN OCTOBER, 1975.
- 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:14.269
- THIS WAS IN OCTOBER, 1975. AND SHE HEARD THESE
- 00:15:14.336 --> 00:15:15.504
- AND SHE HEARD THESE PEOPLE-- SHE REALIZED,
- 00:15:15.571 --> 00:15:17.239
- PEOPLE-- SHE REALIZED, "I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING IN
- 00:15:17.306 --> 00:15:18.640
- "I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE BUT JESUS."
- 00:15:18.707 --> 00:15:20.209
- MY LIFE BUT JESUS." AND SO, AFTER THE WEEKEND WAS
- 00:15:20.275 --> 00:15:22.411
- AND SO, AFTER THE WEEKEND WAS OVER, SHE WENT IN THE
- 00:15:22.478 --> 00:15:23.712
- OVER, SHE WENT IN THE BEDROOM AND PRAYED,
- 00:15:23.779 --> 00:15:24.980
- BEDROOM AND PRAYED, "LORD JESUS, IF YOU ARE REAL,
- 00:15:25.047 --> 00:15:26.348
- "LORD JESUS, IF YOU ARE REAL, I GIVE YOU MY LIFE.
- 00:15:26.415 --> 00:15:27.616
- I GIVE YOU MY LIFE. IF YOU'RE NOT I WANT TO DIE."
- 00:15:27.683 --> 00:15:29.118
- IF YOU'RE NOT I WANT TO DIE." JESUS CAME INTO OUR LIFE.
- 00:15:29.184 --> 00:15:31.320
- JESUS CAME INTO OUR LIFE. HE'S ALIVE, AND TWO MONTHS
- 00:15:31.387 --> 00:15:33.055
- HE'S ALIVE, AND TWO MONTHS LATER I WATCHED HER CHANGE
- 00:15:33.122 --> 00:15:34.757
- LATER I WATCHED HER CHANGE FROM SADNESS TO JOY.
- 00:15:34.823 --> 00:15:35.858
- FROM SADNESS TO JOY. ABOUT THIS TIME WE WERE
- 00:15:35.924 --> 00:15:37.426
- ABOUT THIS TIME WE WERE MOVING AND I WAS LEAVING
- 00:15:37.493 --> 00:15:39.028
- MOVING AND I WAS LEAVING NASA AND I WAS STARTING A
- 00:15:39.094 --> 00:15:40.996
- NASA AND I WAS STARTING A BUSINESS.
- 00:15:41.063 --> 00:15:43.399
- BUSINESS. A LOT OF MONEY.
- 00:15:43.465 --> 00:15:45.034
- A LOT OF MONEY. I'M GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF
- 00:15:45.100 --> 00:15:45.601
- I'M GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
- 00:15:45.667 --> 00:15:46.869
- MONEY. THAT WILL GIVE ME PEACE.
- 00:15:46.935 --> 00:15:47.369
- THAT WILL GIVE ME PEACE. WELL, I HAD STARTED A
- 00:15:47.436 --> 00:15:48.570
- WELL, I HAD STARTED A BUSINESS IN SAN ANTONIO.
- 00:15:48.637 --> 00:15:50.005
- BUSINESS IN SAN ANTONIO. TWO YEARS I STARTED TO
- 00:15:50.072 --> 00:15:52.741
- TWO YEARS I STARTED TO LIVE WITH THAT AND WAS
- 00:15:52.808 --> 00:15:54.643
- LIVE WITH THAT AND WAS SUCCESSFUL FINANCIALLY.
- 00:15:54.710 --> 00:15:55.544
- SUCCESSFUL FINANCIALLY. BUT I WAS MISERABLE.
- 00:15:55.611 --> 00:15:56.678
- BUT I WAS MISERABLE. SO I SOLD OUT, AND IN
- 00:15:56.745 --> 00:15:58.881
- SO I SOLD OUT, AND IN APRIL OF 1978 -- SOME
- 00:15:58.947 --> 00:16:01.483
- APRIL OF 1978 -- SOME PEOPLE FROM OUR CHURCH --
- 00:16:01.550 --> 00:16:03.152
- PEOPLE FROM OUR CHURCH -- NOW WE CHANGED, WE WERE
- 00:16:03.218 --> 00:16:04.753
- NOW WE CHANGED, WE WERE STILL IN THE EPISCOPAL
- 00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:05.621
- STILL IN THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH BUT OUR DIOCESE WAS
- 00:16:05.687 --> 00:16:08.257
- CHURCH BUT OUR DIOCESE WAS SORT OF EVANGELICAL.
- 00:16:08.323 --> 00:16:09.258
- SORT OF EVANGELICAL. A FRIEND OF MINE ASKED ME
- 00:16:09.324 --> 00:16:12.694
- A FRIEND OF MINE ASKED ME TO GO TO A BIBLE STUDY.
- 00:16:12.761 --> 00:16:14.263
- TO GO TO A BIBLE STUDY. I WENT TO A BIBLE STUDY ON
- 00:16:14.329 --> 00:16:15.564
- I WENT TO A BIBLE STUDY ON A WEEKEND AT THE LOCAL
- 00:16:15.631 --> 00:16:17.599
- A WEEKEND AT THE LOCAL TENNIS CLUB.
- 00:16:17.666 --> 00:16:20.269
- TENNIS CLUB. AND IT WAS LIFE-CHANGING.
- 00:16:20.335 --> 00:16:23.105
- AND IT WAS LIFE-CHANGING. I STARTED LISTENING ABOUT
- 00:16:23.172 --> 00:16:28.744
- I STARTED LISTENING ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT
- 00:16:28.811 --> 00:16:31.647
- WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT JESUS, FROM GENESIS TO
- 00:16:31.713 --> 00:16:33.749
- JESUS, FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION.
- 00:16:33.816 --> 00:16:35.617
- REVELATION. IT IS THE STORY OF JESUS.
- 00:16:35.684 --> 00:16:38.187
- IT IS THE STORY OF JESUS. SO WE GET OVER TO THE NEW
- 00:16:38.253 --> 00:16:39.254
- SO WE GET OVER TO THE NEW TESTAMENT, AND THESE
- 00:16:39.321 --> 00:16:39.922
- TESTAMENT, AND THESE SCRIPTURES KEPT BECOMING
- 00:16:39.988 --> 00:16:43.325
- SCRIPTURES KEPT BECOMING MORE AND MORE REAL.
- 00:16:43.392 --> 00:16:44.626
- MORE AND MORE REAL. I HEARD THEM WHEN I WAS
- 00:16:44.693 --> 00:16:46.195
- I HEARD THEM WHEN I WAS YOUNG, AND I GOT TO THE
- 00:16:46.261 --> 00:16:47.229
- YOUNG, AND I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE JESUS SAID,
- 00:16:47.296 --> 00:16:48.630
- POINT WHERE JESUS SAID, "I'M THE WAY, THE TRUTH
- 00:16:48.697 --> 00:16:50.966
- "I'M THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, AND NOBODY
- 00:16:51.033 --> 00:16:52.000
- AND THE LIFE, AND NOBODY COMES TO GOD EXCEPT
- 00:16:52.067 --> 00:16:53.502
- COMES TO GOD EXCEPT THROUGH ME."
- 00:16:53.569 --> 00:16:55.904
- THROUGH ME." AND THE THOUGHT OCCURRED
- 00:16:55.971 --> 00:16:56.405
- AND THE THOUGHT OCCURRED TO ME.
- 00:16:56.472 --> 00:16:56.872
- TO ME. THAT IS THE TRUTH OR THE
- 00:16:56.939 --> 00:16:57.873
- THAT IS THE TRUTH OR THE BIGGEST LIE EVER PERPETRATED
- 00:16:57.940 --> 00:16:59.041
- BIGGEST LIE EVER PERPETRATED AGAINST HUMANITY.
- 00:16:59.108 --> 00:17:01.110
- AGAINST HUMANITY. AND I GET TO DECIDE
- 00:17:01.176 --> 00:17:03.045
- AND I GET TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S THE TRUTH OR
- 00:17:03.112 --> 00:17:04.379
- WHETHER IT'S THE TRUTH OR A LIE.
- 00:17:04.446 --> 00:17:05.981
- A LIE. AND MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES.
- 00:17:06.048 --> 00:17:09.318
- AND MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES. BUT AT THE END OF THAT
- 00:17:09.384 --> 00:17:10.853
- BUT AT THE END OF THAT WEEKEND, I GOT IN THE CAR
- 00:17:10.919 --> 00:17:13.989
- WEEKEND, I GOT IN THE CAR WITH MY WIFE AND I LOOKED
- 00:17:14.056 --> 00:17:14.556
- WITH MY WIFE AND I LOOKED OVER AT HER, AND I SAID,
- 00:17:14.623 --> 00:17:16.391
- "DARLING, THERE IS NO
- 00:17:17.226 --> 00:17:17.659
- "DARLING, THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY LIFE THAT
- 00:17:17.726 --> 00:17:18.160
- DOUBT IN MY LIFE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD."
- 00:17:18.227 --> 00:17:19.828
- JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD." I SAID, "LORD, COME INTO
- 00:17:19.895 --> 00:17:21.063
- I SAID, "LORD, COME INTO MY LIFE."
- 00:17:21.130 --> 00:17:22.064
- MY LIFE." AND FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME I
- 00:17:22.131 --> 00:17:23.332
- AND FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME I EXPERIENCED THE PEACE OF GOD.
- 00:17:23.398 --> 00:17:25.434
- IT WAS A TREMENDOUSLY
- 00:17:27.002 --> 00:17:27.769
- IT WAS A TREMENDOUSLY MOVING MOMENT.
- 00:17:27.836 --> 00:17:30.139
- MOVING MOMENT. AND I HAD SOLD MY
- 00:17:30.205 --> 00:17:31.573
- AND I HAD SOLD MY BUSINESS, SO I DIDN'T HAVE
- 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:33.208
- BUSINESS, SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GO WORK TO, SO
- 00:17:33.275 --> 00:17:35.944
- ANYTHING TO GO WORK TO, SO I STARTED READING THE
- 00:17:36.011 --> 00:17:39.014
- I STARTED READING THE BIBLE.
- 00:17:39.081 --> 00:17:40.649
- BIBLE. THE NEXT MORNING, MONDAY
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- THE NEXT MORNING, MONDAY MORNING I STARTED READING
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- MORNING I STARTED READING THE BIBLE AND I READ AND
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- THE BIBLE AND I READ AND READ AND READ, THE MORE I
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- READ AND READ, THE MORE I READ THE MORE CONVICTED I
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- READ THE MORE CONVICTED I BECAME.
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- BECAME. GOD SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THE
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- GOD SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THE SIN IN MY LIFE THROUGH THE
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- SIN IN MY LIFE THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES.
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- SCRIPTURES. "HUSBANDS LOVE YOUR WIFE
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- "HUSBANDS LOVE YOUR WIFE AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH."
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- AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH." I NEVER DID, BUT I WANTED TO,
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- I NEVER DID, BUT I WANTED TO, SO I REPENTED.
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- SO I REPENTED. YOU HAVE THE POWER OF LIFE
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- YOU HAVE THE POWER OF LIFE AND DEATH IN YOUR TONGUE.
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- AND DEATH IN YOUR TONGUE. AND YOU CAN SPEAK LIFE OR
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- AND YOU CAN SPEAK LIFE OR DEATH.
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- DEATH. SO, I HAD SPOKEN DEATH
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- SO, I HAD SPOKEN DEATH INTO MY KIDS.
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- INTO MY KIDS. I WAS ON THEM LIKE A DRILL
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- I WAS ON THEM LIKE A DRILL SERGEANT.
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- SERGEANT. I CURSED THEM.
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- I CURSED THEM. GOD SPOKE TO MY HEART AND
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- GOD SPOKE TO MY HEART AND SAID, "YOU HAVE CURSED
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- SAID, "YOU HAVE CURSED YOUR OWN KIDS."
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- YOUR OWN KIDS." "I LOVE THESE BOYS.
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- "I LOVE THESE BOYS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?"
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- WHAT DO YOU MEAN?" GOD CONVICTED ME.
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- GOD CONVICTED ME. I WENT IN TEARS AND REPENTED.
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- I WENT IN TEARS AND REPENTED. AND THAT HEALED OUR FAMILY.
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- AND THAT HEALED OUR FAMILY. AND IT STARTED HEALING OUR
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- AND IT STARTED HEALING OUR MARRIAGE.
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- MARRIAGE. WHEN I WENT TO MY WIFE AND
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- WHEN I WENT TO MY WIFE AND GOD SHOWED ME WHAT I HAD
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- GOD SHOWED ME WHAT I HAD NOT DONE,
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- NOT DONE, AND WHAT I HAD DONE.
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- AND WHAT I HAD DONE. SO I REPENTED.
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- SO I REPENTED. HE FORGAVE ME.
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- HE FORGAVE ME. SHE FORGAVE ME.
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- SHE FORGAVE ME. THE BOYS FORGAVE ME.
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- THE BOYS FORGAVE ME. WE STARTED BUILDING OUR
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- WE STARTED BUILDING OUR FAMILY ON THE SOLID ROCK
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- FAMILY ON THE SOLID ROCK OF JESUS.
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- OF JESUS. THAT WAS IN 1978.
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- THAT WAS IN 1978. WE ARE STILL -- NOW WE
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- WE ARE STILL -- NOW WE HAVE NINE GRANDCHILDREN.
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- HAVE NINE GRANDCHILDREN. AND I'M NOT CURSING MY
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- AND I'M NOT CURSING MY GRANDCHILDREN ANYMORE.
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- GRANDCHILDREN ANYMORE. I NEVER HAVE.
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- I NEVER HAVE. I'M BLESSING THEM.
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- I'M BLESSING THEM. SO THE WORDS OF LIFE ARE
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- SO THE WORDS OF LIFE ARE IN THE SCRIPTURES.
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- IN THE SCRIPTURES. SO, THEN THEY TALKED TO ME
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- SO, THEN THEY TALKED TO ME ABOUT MONEY.
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- ABOUT MONEY. AND IT GAVE ME A GENEROUS
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- AND IT GAVE ME A GENEROUS HEART.
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- HEART. WE STARTED GIVING INTO THE
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- WE STARTED GIVING INTO THE CHURCH.
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- CHURCH. GIVING TO CHRISTIAN CAUSES,
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- GIVING TO CHRISTIAN CAUSES, AND THE MORE I GAVE THE
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- AND THE MORE I GAVE THE MORE GOD GAVE.
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- MORE GOD GAVE. JUST "GIVE AND IT SHALL
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- JUST "GIVE AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN UNTO YOU."
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- BE GIVEN UNTO YOU." IT WAS A DRAMATIC CHANGE
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- IT WAS A DRAMATIC CHANGE IN OUR LIFESTYLE.
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- IN OUR LIFESTYLE. AND ABOUT SIX, EIGHT
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- AND ABOUT SIX, EIGHT MONTHS LATER, AFTER THIS
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- MONTHS LATER, AFTER THIS TRANSFORMATION BEGAN,
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- TRANSFORMATION BEGAN, I GOT AN INVITATION TO SPEAK
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- I GOT AN INVITATION TO SPEAK AT A CHURCH IN
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- AT A CHURCH IN KERRVILLE, TEXAS.
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- KERRVILLE, TEXAS. THE FIRST CHURCH WAS
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- THE FIRST CHURCH WAS SAN ANTONIO TO A YOUTH GROUP.
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- SAN ANTONIO TO A YOUTH GROUP. AND BACK THEN, EVERY TIME
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- AND BACK THEN, EVERY TIME I THOUGHT ABOUT JESUS,
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- I THOUGHT ABOUT JESUS, I'D GET CRYING.
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- I'D GET CRYING. I PRAYED AND PRAYED,
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- I PRAYED AND PRAYED, "LORD DON'T LET ME CRY IN FRONT
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- "LORD DON'T LET ME CRY IN FRONT OF ALL THESE KIDS."
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- OF ALL THESE KIDS." I'M A GRIM-JAWED,
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- I'M A GRIM-JAWED, STEELY-EYED FIGHTER PILOT.
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- STEELY-EYED FIGHTER PILOT. I CAN'T CRY.
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- I CAN'T CRY. I SAID, "DON'T LET ME CRY."
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- I SAID, "DON'T LET ME CRY." I WENT TO THIS YOUTH
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- I WENT TO THIS YOUTH GROUP AND I STARTED SPEAKING.
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- GROUP AND I STARTED SPEAKING. AND FIRST 20 MINUTES WAS
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- AND FIRST 20 MINUTES WAS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT,
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- LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, WAS ABOUT SPACE AND GOING TO
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- WAS ABOUT SPACE AND GOING TO THE MOON AND HOW
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- THE MOON AND HOW CHALLENGING IT WAS.
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- CHALLENGING IT WAS. THEN I STARTED ABOUT JESUS
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- THEN I STARTED ABOUT JESUS AND I STARTED TEARING UP.
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- AND I STARTED TEARING UP. EVERY TIME I THOUGHT ABOUT
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- EVERY TIME I THOUGHT ABOUT JESUS, I'D START TEARING
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- JESUS, I'D START TEARING WITH JOY.
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- WITH JOY. TEARS OF JOY.
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- TEARS OF JOY. THEIR EYES GOT REAL BIG.
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- THEIR EYES GOT REAL BIG. SO, AFTER IT WAS OVER,
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- SO, AFTER IT WAS OVER, THEY WERE TOUCHED.
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- THEY WERE TOUCHED. I COULD TELL THEY WERE
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- I COULD TELL THEY WERE INTENTLY LISTENING.
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- INTENTLY LISTENING. SO I GOT HOME AND I
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- SO I GOT HOME AND I STARTED PRAYING, I SAID.
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- STARTED PRAYING, I SAID. "LORD, WHY DID YOU LET ME
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- "LORD, WHY DID YOU LET ME CRY?"
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- CRY?" I CAN'T SAY I HEARD THE
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- I CAN'T SAY I HEARD THE VOICE OF THE LORD.
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- VOICE OF THE LORD. I KNEW THE SPIRIT WAS
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- I KNEW THE SPIRIT WAS SPEAKING TO MY HEART.
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- SPEAKING TO MY HEART. "IT'S HARD TO BE PROUD
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- "IT'S HARD TO BE PROUD WHEN YOU ARE CRYING."
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- WHEN YOU ARE CRYING." AND GOD KNOWS HOW TO
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- AND GOD KNOWS HOW TO HUMBLE YOU.
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- HUMBLE YOU. AND JUST RIGHT NOW I'M
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- AND JUST RIGHT NOW I'M GETTING TEARY WHEN I THINK
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- GETTING TEARY WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT.
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- ABOUT IT. GOD KNOWS US SO WELL.
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- GOD KNOWS US SO WELL. HE KNOWS OUR HEART, AND
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- HE KNOWS OUR HEART, AND PRIDE IS A BIG PROBLEM,
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- PRIDE IS A BIG PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEBODY
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- ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEBODY THAT WALKED ON THE MOON.
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- THAT WALKED ON THE MOON. >> ERIC: LISTEN, I'VE
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- >> ERIC: LISTEN, I'VE NEVER WALKED ON THE MOON
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- NEVER WALKED ON THE MOON AND I STRUGGLE WITH PRIDE.
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- AND I STRUGGLE WITH PRIDE. SO THAT WILL TELL YOU.
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- SO THAT WILL TELL YOU. DO YOU EVER GET ANY PUSHBACK?
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- DO YOU EVER GET ANY PUSHBACK? I MEAN, YOU ARE A MAN OF
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- I MEAN, YOU ARE A MAN OF SCIENCE, TO SAY THE LEAST,
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- SCIENCE, TO SAY THE LEAST, WHO IS A MAN OF PROFOUND
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- WHO IS A MAN OF PROFOUND FAITH.
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- FAITH. AS YOU KNOW THERE IS A
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- AS YOU KNOW THERE IS A FALSE NARRATIVE OUT THERE
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- FALSE NARRATIVE OUT THERE IN THE CULTURE THAT FAITH
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- IN THE CULTURE THAT FAITH AND SCIENCE ARE SOMEHOW AT
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- AND SCIENCE ARE SOMEHOW AT ODDS.
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- ODDS. OBVIOUSLY FOR YOU, THAT IS
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- OBVIOUSLY FOR YOU, THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
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- RIDICULOUS. DO YOU EVER GET ANY
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- DO YOU EVER GET ANY PUSHBACK ON THAT FROM
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- PUSHBACK ON THAT FROM PEOPLE WHO CAN'T IMAGINE
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- PEOPLE WHO CAN'T IMAGINE YOU'RE A MAN OF FAITH?
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- YOU'RE A MAN OF FAITH? >> CHARLIE: I'VE BEEN TO A
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- >> CHARLIE: I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF CONFERENCES
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- COUPLE OF CONFERENCES WHERE MOST OF THE
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- WHERE MOST OF THE SCIENTISTS, NOT ALL, BUT
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- SCIENTISTS, NOT ALL, BUT MOST OF THE SCIENTISTS ARE
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- MOST OF THE SCIENTISTS ARE SCEPTICS.
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- SCEPTICS. SOME OUTRIGHT ATHEISTS.
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- SOME OUTRIGHT ATHEISTS. AND TO ME, THE ARGUMENT IS
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- AND TO ME, THE ARGUMENT IS NOT SCIENCE VERSUS RELIGION.
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- NOT SCIENCE VERSUS RELIGION. THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY
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- THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY PRESENT IS CREATION VERSUS
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- PRESENT IS CREATION VERSUS EVOLUTION.
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- EVOLUTION. SO THOSE ARE TERMS YOU CAN
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- SO THOSE ARE TERMS YOU CAN NEVER PROVE
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- NEVER PROVE SCIENTIFICALLY.
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- SCIENTIFICALLY. I BELIEVE IN CREATION.
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- I BELIEVE IN CREATION. BUT THAT IS A BELIEF.
- 00:22:16.158 --> 00:22:18.193
- BUT THAT IS A BELIEF. THEY BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION.
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- THEY BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION. THEY CAN'T PROVE IT
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- THEY CAN'T PROVE IT SCIENTIFICALLY.
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- SCIENTIFICALLY. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN
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- THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN DESIGN AN EXPERIMENT IN A
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- DESIGN AN EXPERIMENT IN A LAB TO PROVE CREATION IS
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- LAB TO PROVE CREATION IS TRUE, NOR CAN I DESIGN AN
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- TRUE, NOR CAN I DESIGN AN EXPERIMENT IN A LAB THAT
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- EXPERIMENT IN A LAB THAT WOULD SAY CREATION IS TRUE.
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- WOULD SAY CREATION IS TRUE. SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF
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- SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF SCIENCE VERSUS RELIGION.
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- SCIENCE VERSUS RELIGION. IT'S A BELIEF SYSTEM OF
- 00:22:35.877 --> 00:22:38.847
- IT'S A BELIEF SYSTEM OF CREATION VERSUS EVOLUTION.
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- CREATION VERSUS EVOLUTION. AND THAT IS THE WAY I FEEL.
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- THEY HAVE THE HANG UP,
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- THEY HAVE THE HANG UP, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO
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- BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD
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- BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD THAT HAS INFINITE
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- THAT HAS INFINITE KNOWLEDGE THAT CAN SPEAK
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- KNOWLEDGE THAT CAN SPEAK IT ALL INTO EXISTENCE.
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- IT ALL INTO EXISTENCE. BUT THAT IS WHAT THE
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- BUT THAT IS WHAT THE SCRIPTURES SAY.
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- I STAND ON THE WORD OF GOD.
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- I STAND ON THE WORD OF GOD. >> ERIC: I'M JUST SO
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- >> ERIC: I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL TO YOU, CHARLES DUKE,
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- GRATEFUL TO YOU, CHARLES DUKE, FOR YOUR TIME,
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- FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS
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- FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS NATION IN WALKING ON THE
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- NATION IN WALKING ON THE MOON 50 YEARS AGO.
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- MOON 50 YEARS AGO. THANK YOU, SIR, AND GOD
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- THANK YOU, SIR, AND GOD BLESS YOU.
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- BLESS YOU. >> CHARLIE: GOD BLESS YOU,
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- >> CHARLIE: GOD BLESS YOU, ERIC THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
- 00:23:09.578 --> 00:23:10.445
- ERIC THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ENJOYED IT, AND I LOOK
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- I ENJOYED IT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING TO
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- FORWARD TO COMING TO SOCRATES IN THE CITY.
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- SOCRATES IN THE CITY. [MUSIC]
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- [MUSIC] [POPPING SOUND]
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- [POPPING SOUND] ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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- ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪ ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
- 00:23:28.463 --> 00:23:29.030
- ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪ ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
- 00:23:29.097 --> 00:23:29.865
- ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪ ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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- ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪ ♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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- ♪ I'M GONNA ♪ ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
- 00:23:40.942 --> 00:23:42.777
- ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪ ♪ I'M GONNA ♪
- 00:23:42.844 --> 00:23:48.450
- ♪ I'M GONNA ♪ ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
- 00:23:48.517 --> 00:23:48.950
- ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪ ♪ I'M GONNA ♪
- 00:23:49.017 --> 00:23:51.887
- ♪ I'M GONNA ♪ [BEATING SOUND]
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